I like the weapin thing though
#Dungeons and Dragons
dark stream
pearl storm
I like the first two rules
dark stream
gives martial classes a means of scaling their damage through levels, like caster classes
dark stream
normally, a lv20 barbarian pretty much only does the same damage as a lv1 barbarian- if the lv20 haven't found a better weapon by the grace of the dm
though of course they get "extra attack" to kind of make up for it
also makes gold actually meaningful
pearl storm
dark stream
just important to make sure the tiers kind of goes with the levels
dark stream
so you "might" be able to get a +1 fairly early if you gather gold- but you couldn't get a +2 before maybe around 10
and only later, reach +3
hollow plume
gives martial classes a means of scaling their damage through levels, like caste...
Caster relics also had a similar treatment, if someone spent 400 gold on their focus or their quarter staff they had a chance to roll a d8 and regain spell slots
pearl storm
I like Grievous Wounds as a punishment of when a character had to do death saving throws
Not a permanent thing
hollow plume
I like Grievous Wounds as a punishment of when a character had to do death savin...
There is a home brew shock mechanic for when a character loses over half their Max HP in one go
pearl storm
But something to overcome and live with for a little while after they have nearly died
pearl storm
There is a home brew shock mechanic for when a character loses over half their M...
Oooh
dark stream
@pearl storm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atFxtIjYnU
pearl storm
I think I may have heard about it once
pearl storm
<@935328791524417616> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atFxtIjYnU
Oh I love these guys
They make great videos
dark stream
you all talking about grievious wounds and shock mechanic reminded me of one of their bits in the video I sent
where one of them is at 1 hit point, but still wants to do physical work
hollow plume
There's also things like aimed shots and whatnot
But too many rules and it doesn't become fun
dark stream
I'm a huge fan of aimed/called shots when I play archer classes- specifically the homebrew "zen archer"
hollow plume
<@935328791524417616> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3atFxtIjYnU
I believe Rob is the one who says that BG3 is a horrible showcase of D&D and I agree with him on certain things
dark stream
also because archers speficially get the "archery fighting style"
that elevates their "to hit" rolls by +2, over what other weapons can reach
so I like to take advantage of that extra "to hit" chance
I'd like to play the zen archer in a campaign, but it's homebrew
so have to get permission each time
dark stream
the one I posted here is essentially a revamped "kensei" made for archery
pearl storm
I'm a huge fan of aimed/called shots when I play archer classes- specifically th...
I will do aimed shots so much with my Sorcerer/Warlock character and do all of them with Eldritch Blast
dark stream
anything else than archery still suffers all the disadvantages of called shots
only archery gets an extra +2 to hit, that nothing else gets
but it's fun when it works
pearl storm
anything else than archery still suffers all the disadvantages of called shots
Yea but what do I care it's a cantrip so whatever 
hollow plume
@dark stream I have at some point written a Japanese vampire campaign set during the 1st Mongol invasion-
Kyuketski clans working under the shotgun to fight the fleet and the yaoguai that have joined the fight
pearl storm
I think I made my final "average" Sanguine Warforged
dark stream
my primal spirit barbarian-- the bear is supposed to be a giant red panda
but you can't make red pandas in heroforge
I could also make it an owl, but I don't think you can have a big owl besides your character in heroforge either
pearl storm
can't make the owl bigger
hollow plume
Run an ancestral barbarian archer that has high dex and rages with archery
Ancestral protectors means you can snipe an enemy and they are forced to target you
pearl storm
https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Barbarian:_Path_of_the_Primal_Spirit
Yea and since it cam be a large animal you can ride on it too as a Gnome/Dwarf/Halfling
One of the coolest things is also that you can have it be literally anything
It can look like a Dragon or Bear or Shark
A giant Owl
And you can change its form everytime it dies too
Man this gives me now ideas
You can make an Orochimaru
Now have a spellcaster who casts enlarge on it and have everyone ride on it
plush thicket
could I do some relic stuff before we leave?
I got almost 500gp
hollow plume
Uhhh not before you leave no
It usually requires a dedicated blacksmith
Here lemme get the stats
50gp makes it +1
100gp makes a 20+ a crit
200gp gives an additional damage dice
300gp gives it a relic trait at my discretion
And a questline to get it
dark stream
could M31 serve that purpose? having expertise in smith's tools
making ordinary items into magical ones is what she does, after all
plush thicket
I mean we're basically gods at this point
pearl storm
I mean we're basically gods at this point
Oh the hubris
pearl storm
The DnDBeyond website is ass
Anyway this
and
"You get an +2 to Constitution and a plus 1 to any ability score of your choice"
"Sanguine Warforged have a weakness to poison"
"You get the Crimson Lash spell at level 1 and the Sense Lifeblood spell at level 3. You can cast these spells once before you have to take a long rest to replenish them. You choose the spell modifier for these spells at level 1 when you choose this race."
hollow plume
Mom Jo-rah's hyperfixating on Crimson Lash again
potent crypt
puts a curse on jo-rah so he can't use crimson lash
pearl storm
Nah just the best 1st lvl sangromancy spell to give
Blood Rush is a heal that's cool but not enough flavour to me and Consumption is too strong for my feeling to be for free but also just not fitting well into the flavour of the race
pearl storm
Blood Rush is a heal that's cool but not enough flavour to me and Consumption is too strong for my feeling to be for free but also just not fitting well into the flavour of the race
pearl storm
*puts a curse on jo-rah so he can't use crimson lash*<:potastBoomer1:81462070482...
You're getting 2 consecutive Circle of Scarlets and a sense lifeblood empowered Magic Missile
balmy badge
ill just ask for future - if we continue we use same characters or make new?
pearl storm
ill just ask for future - if we continue we use same characters or make new?
I don't thinl Cannon got it in him to go for a fully new campaign
No but in all honesty I don't think at all that you will make new characters
balmy badge
No but in all honesty I don't think at all that you will make new characters
this sounds like you think i cant make new characters.
pearl storm
this sounds like you think i cant make new characters.
I don't think you can't just that Cannon won't ask you to
burnt storm
I wanna bring dota items and spells to D&D. "This item makes me magic immune for two rounds, except to gorgons and really fat undead." "This item drains my HP to raise my strength stat." "Once per long rest I can turn everyone in my party invisible." "The more enemies my AOE spell hits, the more powerful it becomes."
pearl storm
I wanna bring dota items and spells to D&D. "This item makes me magic immune for...
Don't know what dota means but yes those sound all very cool
Realizing DnD doesn't have to be completly be uptight but you can add small stuff here and there to make it more interesting
potent crypt
dota is a game 
burnt storm
Mirana also tosses a stun in a straight line which has a disadvantage to hit. There's a character who can cast mirror image on everyone he is hunting and swap places with any image, like a weird ranger ability. And there's a dude whose main damage is glyphs which he can also move very slowly.
pearl storm
Man I'm looking through the Grim Hollow subclasses again and damn the Circle of Blood Druid is perfect
The abfliegen are all amazing and build on each other and are just cool
And Rite of the Blood Moon is so strong and flavourfull
I am still a bit mad that Sangromancy wizards didn't get a real life drain feature and even their lvl 6 feature is still a bit boring while good (although the hp you get through the Lvl of Sangromancy spell you cast could be a tad bit higher in my opinion)
pearl storm
Hmm I like this a lot
Although I imagine it may be a bit harder for beginners but I think that's nit the case since they say they got traditional ones too to just take
I am excited for the next book a lot
pearl storm
Benjamin Huffman - Ghostfire Gaming https://share.google/ecHth8Vx9FeXNORVs
Cool stuff
Factions of Grim Hollow - Ghostfire Gaming https://share.google/JPjqWppjyC0AATZiG
pearl storm
Factions of Grim Hollow - Ghostfire Gaming https://share.google/JPjqWppjyC0AATZi...
Ooh even cooler
Lore on the factions
pearl storm
well you may or may not run into those factions
Kicking my feet and giggling like a school girl under ny blanket
plush thicket
may not is also part of that statement
pearl storm
Well you could have just said that we won't encounter them for sure and just be in a Dungeon for the rest of the campaign
So a may or may not is hype
plush thicket
may or may not means I'm not telling you shit
shy wigeon
pearl storm
But you can't cast spells Jo-Rah REMEMBER "permanent inabillity to cast spells"
If it's like this then
I CAST
CATCH THESE HANDS
hollow plume
Cannon can i have the other slipper
plush thicket
Cannon can i have the other slipper
yep
pearl storm
Well fuck, I watched all of Vox Machina (the animated series)
What am I gonna watch now for DnD stuff?
pearl storm
Well i could
Although it's not the same
But atleast I wouldn't have to watch that weirdo and cheater who was at the beginning of their live show with them
By the way I learned about Ghostfire Gamings Heritage System and I love it
Excited to see what traits and all the Grim Hollow races will have in GH Transformed
plush thicket
plush thicket
pearl storm
Been watching more Ghostfire Gaming videos
Man I love them
I think the cult one was a really good video that I can recommend to anyone DMing or just interested in the writing stuff
Now I also found out what the Heritage system is
I love it
My only concern is how it will be to implement races that aren't on the list to the system
The Accursed are there for that but I fear that the different races not from the system will not be able to translated as well in it
And making them all feel less special or unique
pearl storm
pearl storm
Look at this sexy art
pearl storm
Look at those Ostoyans
pearl storm
I got today an idea for a new character. Highway Rider Rogue and Disembodied race.
Got a good story or moreso character, personality and some core events
Depending on it I might not have a full on backstory in the classic sense with going all the way back to the childhood
pearl storm
So you're a scalie?
timid siren
pearl storm
pearl storm
What are the rules on guns in Grim Hollow and in general?
plush thicket
https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/lGJGuD50nl
ohh, that's sick
have you seen the one that turns it into a rogue-like?
hollow plume
i have, yes
timid siren
Updated the look of my god of peace
hollow plume
work is underway
plush thicket
hollow plume
work is underway
refined version
This will probably help yall when following the paper trail of plot points
pearl storm
So looking through Highway Rider and how Rogues generally work
So going on from level 3 I would be able to nearly always do sneak attack
Since all I need to do is just walk 20 feet
Which is even easier to do as a Rogue since I can do the dash action just with a bonus action
So a pistol and sneak attack
At lvl 3 is 1d10 and 2d6
At lvl 4 I can take a frat to ignore the loading of Guns
So I can dual wield pistols
potent crypt
Multiclass artificer to make gun
pearl storm
1d10 and 2d6 + proficiency bonus and another 1d10 on bonus action if I don't want to dash/disengage/hide
And the longer I go in the class and get stronger sneak attacks the more damage per turn I will be able to make
And that damage every turn I hit
And if I miss first attack I can still try to do sneak attack with bonus action gun
pearl storm
Multiclass artificer to make gun<:potastHmm:814620704224968847>
Meh not needed I think
Though I wonder how it is? Will I have to hope that DM lets me buy pistols since I don't think you can start with them as a Rogue
Could maybe ask if it's alright to just start with pistol and give up crossbow or bow up for it
Or even the longsword option
Now besides all that Rogue gets out of combat stuff with skills and expertise which is pretty cool
dark stream
And if I miss first attack I can still try to do sneak attack with bonus action ...
just keep in mind you aren't proficient in dual-wielding without a fighting style
so you won't be adding your ability mod to the damage of the off-hand weapon
pearl storm
1d10 and 2d6 + proficiency bonus and another 1d10 on bonus action if I don't wan...
Read AIzo
Yea I know no ability modifier on them
Hmm proficiency bonus still applies to offhand weapons?
plush thicket
you won't be proficient with guns
dark stream
he's talking about the highway rider subclass- automatic "blackpowder pistol" proficiency at lv3
but of the grim hollow rogue subclasses, I'm more interested in the misfortune bringer
seems hilarious
plush thicket
then where is this 1d10 coming from?
the black powder weapons don't deal 1d10 damage
pearl storm
then where is this 1d10 coming from?
I looked up guns in DnD and on the wikidot renasaincee pistols are a d10
plush thicket
that's not what grim hollow black powder weapons do
pearl storm
I don't know if there are special ones for Grim Hollow cause in the server I asked no one answered it
pearl storm
Ah guns are among the advanced weapons?
pearl storm
So Grim Hollow blackpowder pistols are 2d4
Yea still nothing denstrumental
There is only one thing I think the highway rider or specifacally any build using the blackpowder weapons are really annoying at
That being that they are fucking loud
Like once you go into combat you can bet your ass you won't be leaving it until all enemies in the vicinity of 300 feet are dead
Got it already
I only gotta think of feats to take now
And also I found out Rogues get 6 feats I thin in total
More importantly they get at lvl 10 a feat too
So on blackpowder weapons I still get dexterity ability modifier on it?
If that is the case I did some test rolls
2d4 + dex 4 + pb 2 + sneak attack 2d6
All on lvl 3
On average they end up to an 17 atleast or to an 20
pearl storm
Beginner concept
Not sure about the Background yet but the skills will probably all stay the same cause I'm stuck between 3 backgrounds who all are in a similiar vein and therefore similiar skills
The more lvl1 character concepts I make the more I notice that the average character roll isn't that great cause look at that
Only 2 for dex and 1 for con
Everything stuck around 12 or 11 without race modifiers
Compare those (to me) abysmal stats to Jo-Rah
I really was lucky on my first rolls while making Jo-Rah
hollow plume
And also I found out Rogues get 6 feats I thin in total
Where are you getting this from?
plush thicket
hollow plume
I have never seen this before, that's honestly kinda frightening
If you went human too, that's technically seven feats
naive moss
pearl storm
Right and depending on vversion of 5e you can ahve kinda lawys a feat at from lvl 1
But yea to me the important thing is a feat on lvl 10
I expect the average go to be till lvl 13 or 12 so everything there from lvl 1 to lvl 13 is the important stuff to me
4 feats if the campaign goes to lvl 12
Nice
dark stream
I have never seen this before, that's honestly kinda frightening
because nobody plays rogue, and those that do never make it to level 10
knocks on woods
pearl storm
they all die before lv10
Val was trying to accomplish that too but hasn't succeded yet
pearl storm
because nobody plays rogue, and those that do never make it to level 10
What do you mean no one? Isn't Rogue like one of the most popular subclasses?
hollow plume
It's a class that gets thrown into the limelight for all the jokes about stealing, robbing, stealth etc but past that point people either multiclass or uh. Die from their shenanigans
I had a single rogue go up to level 12 arcane trickster but he was more of a pirate than a thief
plush thicket
the rogue I almost played was going to be almost a ranger/tracker
potent crypt
I won't die i got M31 to shield me 
dark stream
the rogue I almost played was going to be almost a ranger/tracker
the rogue's I'm looking at are "mastermind" and "misfortune bringer"
and then I'd basically play support rogue
seems like fun
mastermind can do the "help" action from 30ft range, and as a bonus action
for the misfortune bringer, you can just make enemies fall over on their turns, and lose their movement
plush thicket
the rogue's I'm looking at are "mastermind" and "misfortune bringer"
and then I'...
I would've taken Scout at 3rd level
https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/rogue:scout
dark stream
I would've taken Scout at 3rd level
https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/rogue:scout
would be really fun in like, a jungle campaign
plush thicket
Her backstory was gonna be that she was trained as an army scout
pearl storm
the rogue's I'm looking at are "mastermind" and "misfortune bringer"
and then I'...
Mastermind I heard was pretty bad
dark stream
maybe for meta nobodies who only powergame
zero personality
point is, is fun for roleplay
pearl storm
Whatever you say Mr Bigbrain
dark stream
super charismatic rogue who manipulates peepos through charisma/deception and aids allies as such
seems fun
dark stream
the different "misfortunes" the misfortune bringer can conduct upon targets of their evil eye
also
plush thicket
for some reason, when I go to the site, the top 6 options are smooshe together and it's impossible the read XD
dark stream
for some reason, when I go to the site, the top 6 options are smooshe together a...
oh for me as well, I went to this one instead https://www.worldanvil.com/w/diabboru---grim-hollow-diabboru/a/misfortune-bringer-article
dark stream
feels like an alternative to the arcane trickster- you're a rogue, and then you have a few resources
for a little shenaniganery
plush thicket
Scout can sneak attack twice in a turn
dark stream
the evil eye let's the misfortune bringer sneak attack regardless of advantage or not
as long as you don't have disadvantage
plush thicket
when you attack as an action, you can make an additional attack as a bonus action which can benefit from sneak attack
You also get advantage on initiative and if you hit someone before their turn in the first round, you get advantage
Scout has one of the best capstone features imo
just double attack and sneak attack on a class that is always one and done is so good
dark stream
scout seems fun both mechanically, but also roleplay wise
sneaking ahead, making sure there's no traps or ambushes and such
plush thicket
yee, I've wanted to play one for a while
but then SOME OTHER PLAYERS
made a party that would have had 4 lv1 rogues in it
dark stream
the misfortune bringer rogue feels a little bit like battle master-
you also recover the jinx points on short rests
of course it's still a rogue, so not a toe-to-toe battler
pearl storm
Looking at Scout and it seems ok
plush thicket
more classes should get stuff from short rests
pearl storm
Not ehat I'd want to play but cool
dark stream
you can add 1d12 necrotic damage when something gets hurt within range for only 1 jinx point
but like, it's also just damage, and could risk it only being 1 damage
on the other hand, can spend 3 jinx points, and make an enemy who tries to move
fall over their own feet and go prone/lose remaining movement
seems more fun, and potentially give advantage to allies hitting them
pearl storm
the evil eye let's the misfortune bringer sneak attack regardless of advantage o...
Highway Rider does the samw but instead you just need to move 20 feet
dark stream
my vision of a misfortune rogue, they wouldn't use daggers
but rather either thrown weapons/knives, or hand crossbows
pearl storm
You know the Sanguine Thief that is coming out is supposed to have an ability making yourself blood daggers and he seemingly can be really good at knife throwing
dark stream
something sneak and devious, maybe with a history in the faewild
the subclass itself does mention being the child of a hag or witch and such
could possibly pick up the "lucky" feat early on
and roleplay that your character is inherently blessed with luck
but they're only lucky because they drain the luck from those around them
plush thicket
maybe a black tabaxi
quick 5 min mini
dark stream
pearl storm
but then SOME OTHER PLAYERS
made a party that would have had 4 lv1 rogues in it ...
Hey there still is an open place if you wanna play
ALthough I know currently is not the time for you ans you might not wanna play with someone who is still new
dark stream
quick 5 min mini
his/her [insert parental figure/patron/guardian] tried all they could teaching us magic
but somehow, something always went wrong, as if fate itself was against it.. so unlucky 
and as the campaign moves along, we slowly learn to focus this "unluck" to various effects
or something like that
plush thicket
yee
would be cool
always too many characters and not enough campaigns to play them in 
dark stream
either that, or we go the other way, where things always seem to go our way, at the cost of others for some reason messing up
and again, we slowly understand what it is, and learn to focus it
hollow plume
Let me be Highway Rider and I bet you I'll never die
You keep forgetting that there are 5 different kinds of Spell DCs
High dex means nothing to "Command"
pearl storm
You keep forgetting that there are 5 different kinds of Spell DCs
huh? I never said anything against that
hollow plume
you just said you'll never die as a Highway Rider
plush thicket
Yea and I won't cause I'm pro player
pearl storm
Oh I'll just be out of reach
hollow plume
Yea and I won't cause I'm pro player
pearl storm
Anywas since campaign isn't up for some people and I still wanna try to get expirience Imma announce this
I AM GONNA MAKE A ONE SHOT CAMPAIGN IN GRIM HOLLOW
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN A ONE SHOT CAMPAIGN FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW
dark stream
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN A ONE SHOT CAMPAIGN FEEL FREE TO LET ME KNOW
makes inquisitor cleric for majo's campaign
starts with 20AC from heavy armour+shield
has the witch hunter feat
pearl storm
*makes inquisitor cleric for majo's campaign*
*starts with 20AC from heavy armou...
You can do that but I will probably make the lvl be 3 or 4 depending on how many people come and if I wanna deal with feats in a One Shot
This can be a superb opportunity for pur fellow DMs to game a bit too again and test some builds you had in mind
dark stream
the parasite warlock is pretty interesting, because you're essentially playing as your own patron
controlling a meat puppet(that is the warlock)
pearl storm
the parasite warlock is pretty interesting, because you're essentially playing a...
Sssshhh Aizo go and get some people that I can DM
pearl storm
Oh gey Aizo by the way
A subclass that is coming up in the soon released Grim Hollow Transformed (overworked version of Grim Hollow) is a Wizard who studies Gods and Demons and can use those powers and stuff from them without being in a pact with one or a cleric
Like healing stuff, Eldritch Blast and pact magic
And you can always decide on each long rest in what study you wanna go into
If you wanna see him start at 8:50
dark stream
A subclass that is coming up in the soon released Grim Hollow Transformed (overw...
that makes no sense
it's not a magic you can study to "learn" it's a granted/gifted power for warlocks
and clerics don't lorewise "cast spells" they act as prisms for their god's power
pearl storm
it's not a magic you can study to "learn" it's a granted/gifted power for warloc...
Bla bla bla
Wizard go Revivify
You should atleast watch it before judging it
The book probably explains how they are doing it or giving options to it
It could be by siohoning holy objects that an Seraph touched or gave someone
pearl storm
I like it cause it's a middle finger to all god beings and I love that
pearl storm
no they don't
Well he can
dark stream
only classes with access to healing is those connected to the divine, or primordial nature
pearl storm
only classes with access to healing is those connected to the divine, or primord...
Or the Daemonologist
hollow plume
A subclass that is coming up in the soon released Grim Hollow Transformed (overw...
nah this is stupid
i'm with Aizo
dark stream
interesting idea, but doesn't make sense lorewise, it a wizard cannot learn these things and still be a wizard
hollow plume
wizards can't learn smite spells and neither should they
hollow plume
and neither should a wizard learn revivify, the best they can do is raise dead until they get the powerful resurrection spells
hollow plume
https://tenor.com/view/flipsdesk-gif-5547444055233225754
mb shoulda clarified the smite spells
plush thicket
dark stream
the only way to get access to healing spells, is through being chosen by the divine or the primordial, you cannot study to learn it
and eldritch blast is the same- though you could argue either could be "mimicked"
plush thicket
too late, now you look like a fool
pearl storm
interesting idea, but doesn't make sense lorewise, it a wizard cannot learn thes...
Well in the world of Etharis they can
dark stream
it would work'ish if it was a sorcerer subclass and not a wizard subclass
sorcerer already have divine soul, and warlock has the celestial patron
hollow plume
it would work'ish if it was a sorcerer subclass and not a wizard subclass
divine soul and celestial warlocks can do this
dark stream
but a wizard having access to these are no longer a wizard
potent crypt
so whats the idea a wizard tried to study the magic of warlocks to see how their powers manifest and try to replicate it?
pearl storm
Aizo why don't you atleast watch the video section first instead of just shitting on it
hollow plume
druids and rangers can heal since they draw strength from the land itself
dark stream
druids and rangers can heal since they draw strength from the land itself
from the primordial side
pearl storm
wizards can't learn smite spells and neither should they
By the way Justin guess what my Sangromancer can learn
dark stream
Aizo why don't you atleast watch the video section first instead of just shittin...
because the idea itself makes no sense- but I agree it's a fun idea
it should not have been a wizard subclass though, that's what's wrong
potent crypt
grim hollow isn't official is it?
plush thicket
No Val
pearl storm
so whats the idea a wizard tried to study the magic of warlocks to see how their...
It's moreso a Wizard stealing powers from Gods and Demons alike
potent crypt
ah then it doesn't matter that they make the class
hollow plume
grim hollow isn't official is it?
it's not official, it's funny side thing that people made
potent crypt
It's moreso a Wizard stealing powers from Gods and Demons alike
how would they do that?
hollow plume
flat answer, they can't
pearl storm
Stealing secrets and finding ways to unnaturally access their kikd of magic
hollow plume
it took Acererak multiple tries and several wish spells to attain his near godhood
potent crypt
idea i had is probably also not possible but seems better then just somehow taking their power or whatever
dark stream
that would entail the wizard being more powerful than both arch seraph and arch daemon
both of which are as omnipotent, as not being omnipoten gets
would require something like elminster level of power
pearl storm
Not gonna lie Arch Seraphs and Deamons are kinda weak though
dark stream
Not gonna lie Arch Seraphs and Deamons are kinda weak though
and then venin snapped you out of existence
potent crypt
now rules and lore and such are there to make sure stuff doesn't get to ridiculous and out of hand but the idea of dnd is that u can use ur imagination for anything to happen right?
pearl storm
Im the world of Grim Hollow I can see this cause the gods are literally dead and even the strongest ones on the evil side
potent crypt
so they are just breaking some of the rules to make a cool class
hollow plume
where's that abridged guide again:
Wizard: your power comes from beign smart enough to understand magic
Warlock: you got a patron who throws you curveballs
Bard: you can sing magic into creation
Paladin: your power comes from conviction
Cleric: your power is gifted from worship
Ranger and Druid: your power comes from the land
pearl storm
now rules and lore and such are there to make sure stuff doesn't get to ridiculo...
Mostly
dark stream
but really, even saying that, your class now no longer have access to that side's powers
pearl storm
*and then venin snapped you out of existence*
dark stream
a dm in a campaign can rightfully take away a paladin or cleric or warlocks powers, if they don't follow their deity/patron/oaths ways
hollow plume
dark stream
I think that's really fun for rp stuff
hollow plume
had an NPC lose his oath because he betrayed his town
and I bargained to have my paladin lose 3 levels to heal someone to multi as a level 3 fighter
pearl storm
Yea in the vid they also suggest that as a Daemonologist you would rightfully be hunted down by both sides of the spectrum
You are a rare breed cause those who try to steal from the gods and demons alike do not live long
potent crypt
how would u steal from them?
hollow plume
Yea in the vid they also suggest that as a Daemonologist you would rightfully be...
not just both sides. You would also be eyed on by great old ones and fey alike, even liches would be out to get you since you stole magic from the gods, ergo you have the ability to screw other magical beings too
potent crypt
it's not like their power comes from something like an item of a specific body part
their magic or power is inate? is that the word?
pearl storm
Again I think it's cool and works for the Grim Hollow setting cause the Arch Seraphs and Daemons are just fundamentally weaker then gods and so may even not be able to keep their source of power limited to them or be weak enough to be sourced by someone
dark stream
their magic or power is inate? is that the word?
yes- neither eldritch blast, nor divine healing is actual "magic" in dnd lore
one side is "gifted power" the other is "miracles" where the cleric solely acts as a prism for the god's power
hollow plume
pearl storm
not just both sides. You would also be eyed on by great old ones and fey alike, ...
Yea and that's a really nice flavour and part of the subclass that I think they do make emphasis on
potent crypt
Again I think it's cool and works for the Grim Hollow setting cause the Arch Ser...
?
they get their powers form the gods u mean?
dark stream
this weird wizard subclass is what you might find in a dnd villain
dark stream
this weird wizard subclass is what you might find in a dnd villain
because if someone/something was cabable of stealing and harnessing god's power for themselves, they'd essentially be attempting to become gods themselves
no low level character can achieve anything of that sort
potent crypt
i want more fun stealth rogue subclasses
dark stream
though you can always backstory good reasons for it
potent crypt
call it shadow or something and give u illusion magic where u can turn into shadow and be almost completely silent when moving even in heavy armor
dark stream
like you were actually a warlock and a cleric at one point, but your real class was wizard, and during the time spent under the patron and deity
you simply worked to mimic their might, and then ran away
potent crypt
or maybe while being a warlock u somehow manage to use the connection between u and ur god to "steal" their power in a way they have no control over?
idk how that would be achived but thought it was a fun idea
maybe u conspire with another god to help u in this endevor
shackling ur patron to basicaly become ur overpowered servant
potent crypt
and u now have "free" reign of their power
dark stream
or maybe while being a warlock u somehow manage to use the connection between u ...
it cannot be "steal" because no low level character would have anything close to that power to do that, without being outright killed on the spot
pearl storm
like you were actually a warlock and a cleric at one point, but your real class ...
BRO JUST WATCH ZEH GOD DAMN VIDEO
LITERALLY
potent crypt
it cannot be "steal" because no low level character would have anything close to...
true but lets just say they are a level 20 char by default for the sake of making the idea work
pearl storm
potent crypt
also jeannies live probably has to focus on stream a little
pearl storm
i want more fun stealth rogue subclasses <:potastSip:942680690581975050>
Anyway go and check out the video too cause they also show off the Sanguine Thief subclass fir the Rogue
potent crypt
a blood thief?
a vampire rogue does sound kinda cool
get a like version of misty step where u turn into a swarm of bats
dark stream
true but lets just say they are a level 20 char by default for the sake of makin...
a lv 20 character might have a chance, but would still require something special-
arch daemons/seraphs are something dc26+ which means a team of 4 lv26 characters would
have a tough fight against them-- acererak we fought in the tomb of annihilation only had dc23
potent crypt
i just want a super stealthy rogue
hollow plume
because if someone/something was cabable of stealing and harnessing god's power ...
reminds me of how Oathbreaker paladins were designed to be NPC villains, not PCs
dark stream
but as I said, anything is possible with a well-written backstory
hollow plume
i just want a super stealthy rogue <:potastSip:942680690581975050>
domain of trickery rogue + shadowstep monk + gloom stalker ranger + rogue smth smth
potent crypt
oh and that special thing could be the aid of another god as i mentioned
hollow plume
tbf drow rogues are already very sneaky
but it's not how high your stealth score is, it's how creative you are with being unseen
potent crypt
domain of trickery rogue + shadowstep monk + gloom stalker ranger + rogue smth s...
i would prefer to get it faster then having to multiclass into several classes >.<
potent crypt
but it's not how high your stealth score is, it's how creative you are with bein...
liger hides behind a twig against a wall in a crowded street rolls nat20 with a +10 to stealth
dark stream
<:potastG:942680689634082826>
be a shadow monk with boots of elvenkind
the shadow monk can turn invisible and teleport between shadows
for free
and the boots literally "makes your steps completely silent"
potent crypt
how do i get these boots?
dark stream
make a compelling backstory so you start with them, or plead for your dm to have them in a magic shop you come across
hollow plume
i would prefer to get it faster then having to multiclass into several classes >...
be a warlock with thaumaturgy and prestidigation
E Z
dark stream
or, ask your friendly neighborhood artificer to create them
hollow plume
distract, misdirect and run
hollow plume
how do i get these boots?
Val c'mon i just gave you a hat of disguise self 
potent crypt
or, ask your friendly neighborhood artificer to create them
assuming there is one if or when i get to play a shadow monk
potent crypt
Val c'mon i just gave you a hat of disguise self <:kek:1419398977870106694>
oh i'm not talking in our campaign i mean i'm already an arcane tricster
also M31 can make the boots
pearl storm
a blood thief?
Yep
potent crypt
i just figure they have more use helping our not so stealthy party members
pearl storm
Slashing and literally stealing their blood to fuel their next attacks
potent crypt
hmm
plush thicket
or, ask your friendly neighborhood artificer to create them
so... whatchu making me?
potent crypt
right so it's a subclass that falls under the sangromancy school of magic
is a rogue/wizard like arcane trickster but with blood magic
thats cool
dark stream
so... whatchu making me?
I can make your sword and shield magical(+1, + effects)
or something else
ideally I'd like to have all my attunement stuffs on everyone else
pearl storm
is a rogue/wizard like arcane trickster but with blood magic
Yee
potent crypt
just thinking if yaromir ends up staying behind again lets get him/us a ship he can be the captain of and have him take us to the various destinations we need to go to
plush thicket
ideally I'd like to have all my attunement stuffs on everyone else
most of the actual magic items would need you to be 10th lv anyway so don't worry about me
potent crypt
now buying it is an option but we probably won't be able to afford it so we could maybe steal one
plush thicket
lets just keep these other dummys alive long enough
dark stream
most of the actual magic items would need you to be 10th lv anyway so don't worr...
yee
potent crypt
dark stream
lv10 I can make cloak of protection as well
potent crypt
dummy reporting for duty
dark stream
and the defence/offence things become +2
dark stream
plush thicket
but he's pretty stronk already
dark stream
at lv10, I can also have 4 infusions active at once
infusions = magic items/enchantments
pearl storm
besides, I'm sure Justin will give me some magic items...
The same way you are gonna give me Spell scrolls.....
right....?
plush thicket
you get spell scrolls when you earn them
hollow plume
besides, I'm sure Justin will give me some magic items...
you do have the gold for things so i will allow you to get magic itmes if you find a blacksmith
plush thicket
how much do items cost again?
hollow plume
you get spell scrolls when you earn them
this^ Elara gets spell scrolls when I think she earned em
potent crypt
steals spell scrolls
hollow plume
how much do items cost again?
50 to get it to +1, 100 for 20+ becoming a crit, 200 for added damage die
pearl storm
Circle of Scarlet and Theft of Vitae on you
potent crypt
misty step and hides before u can cast any spells
plush thicket
jokes on you I never had spells to start with
pearl storm
I have an pretty high Investigation and Perception skill from what I remember
So get outta here
pearl storm
jokes on you I never had spells to start with
potent crypt
I have an pretty high Investigation and Perception skill from what I remember
i got a +10 on stealth
plush thicket
Circle of Scarlet and Theft of Vitae on you
here's the issue with that
I'm a fighter, my constitution is my entire thing
I'm making that save
potent crypt
plush thicket
meanwhile I have bonked you and you died in one hit
potent crypt
2 more levels and u literaly can't see me cuz then i get to have invisibility
pearl storm
I wouldn't hurt a Bulwark Warrior they are too coll
potent crypt
couldn't*
pearl storm
Sure
That's what they all see till they get blasted with Snese Lifeblood empowered Msgic Missiles and Theft of Vitae cast immediately after as a reaction
plush thicket
you don't have enough spell slots to kill me
potent crypt
except u can't cast all of those in 1 turn
plush thicket
I have too many hit points
dark stream
has brooch of shielding
is immune to magic missile
potent crypt
lv.6 chars bullying a lv.2 wizard
plush thicket
even if he was lv6, he still couldn't kill me
pearl storm
val is hidden, can't hit what you cannot see
My Investigation modifier is already an 6 and I'm just lvl 2
I'm gonna find that boi
hollow plume
cause I do technically have enough for all 3 of those XD
they stack and you can in theory sink your gold into it
dark stream
My Investigation modifier is already an 6 and I'm just lvl 2
finding something hidden is perception
plush thicket
they stack and you can in theory sink your gold into it
no reason not too tbh
dark stream
potent crypt
My Investigation modifier is already an 6 and I'm just lvl 2
my stealth mod is 10 and will be 11 when i hit lv.8
dark stream
you're not investigaing anything- if instead you want to track him, it'd be survival
or was it nature
dm knows
potent crypt
i like to think that since liger is a tabaxi and has claws i can climb on any surface made of wood cuz i can just put my claws into them so i can climb upside down across beams in the roof in stealth
pearl storm
pearl storm
https://youtu.be/FeahzYGuIKY?si=KPXcHo54supNDlnA
This is in my head the average Bulwark Warrior
potent crypt
takes on 3 main chars kicks their ass
i prefer he remains nameless and faceless but i do want this guy to be an official and returning char
dark stream
i like to think that since liger is a tabaxi and has claws i can climb on any su...
tabaxi have climbing speed equal to their walking speed, so yup !
you can do that
potent crypt
specificaly piced tabaxi cuz i wanted the stealth and claws of cats
also i figured they would have dark vision
seems important for a class based around stealth
plush thicket
that's half of what Val gets to hide
pearl storm
i prefer he remains nameless and faceless but i do want this guy to be an offici...
Oh no we know exactly who this guy is, his motives and look and all
pearl storm
that's half of what Val gets to hide
Well he's a rogue build for that and I'm a Sangromancer who just got lucky on his stat rolls
plush thicket
I am kinda interested in which party would win in a fight
assuming they were the same level of course
dark stream
this rogue trait is fun
lowest roll you can do with anything you're proficient in, is 10
before additions
pearl storm
I am kinda interested in which party would win in a fight
Ooh one session of imaginary combat against each other!
potent crypt
could be fun
pearl storm
Although that would be a biz difficult with Aizo having to play two characters
plush thicket
and sneke playing two characters
pearl storm
Oh shit right
pearl storm
Sneke is not often enough here so I forget about him
plush thicket
I do think Justin's party wins, I think the rogues carry unironically
potent crypt
pearl storm
I often forget Myrdle too
plush thicket
like they just wouldn't be found
plush thicket
rogues are also squishy
pearl storm
I do think Justin's party wins, I think the rogues carry unironically
Hmm I say Rhea will be able to debalitate them enough and oir fighters can deal enoigh damage and tank till Jo-Rah can blast them with SL empowered Magic Missiles or Circle of Scarlet
potent crypt
assuming we won't targer jo-rah and Rhea first
pearl storm
Once at half hp it gets very easy for Jo-Rah to finish them off
pearl storm
assuming we won't targer jo-rah and Rhea first <:potastSip:942680690581975050>
Rhea and Jo-Rah hide behind their fighters 30 feet away
pearl storm
Then we still got Tuan the Warlock
He is probably gonna Eldritch Blast you all too and can go Nova with some big spells
potent crypt
misty steps behind u and gets the benefit of suprise attack and hits u with booming blade
a good role and ur not getting a turn or a second turn
plush thicket
Hmm I say Rhea will be able to debalitate them enough and oir fighters can deal ...
still can't hit what you can't see
pearl storm
Myrdle is also there and I am just gonna assume she is gonna be a Vermin Lord
dark stream
yup, the stealth is the biggest issue
pearl storm
Which will be good
dark stream
they'll likely get surprise on us
unless Rhea somehow spots them with her passive perception
potent crypt
have M31 give me and sparks stealth items as well
pearl storm
If Sense Lifeblood would actually do what the name suggests I could sense them but it doesn't do that weirdly enough
potent crypt
and elara can open with a fireball
plush thicket
and M31 and Yaromir are tankier then the GH fighters
pearl storm
unless Rhea somehow spots them with her passive perception
Shouldn't my passive perception be higher?
pearl storm
and elara can open with a fireball
Counterspell
dark stream
Shouldn't my passive perception be higher?
you're a wizard, it shouldn't
potent crypt
does that disable it or turn it around on the caster?
dark stream
clerics and monks generally have the highest perception
pearl storm
you're a wizard, it shouldn't
I've got 15
plush thicket
other thing is, the GH party is much more reliant on spellcasting
pearl storm
Don't remembee anymore how the perceptio is getting calculated but my sheet says 15
dark stream
I've got 15
16
pearl storm
other thing is, the GH party is much more reliant on spellcasting
Very true
potent crypt
hypoteticaly if we did wanna try party vs party what level would we pick?
plush thicket
I would assume bring everyone up to 6
pearl storm
Anywas Rhea can possibly make spellcasters not use half of their spells cause of the Eldritch effects
potent crypt
good for them cuz at 7 i get shadow blade which is psycich dmg
potent crypt
Anywas Rhea can possibly make spellcasters not use half of their spells cause of...
which is why i'm targeting her first
pearl storm
I would assume bring everyone up to 6
Can we do 7 so I gez Circle of Scarlez too?
dark stream
Anywas Rhea can possibly make spellcasters not use half of their spells cause of...
I don't know which eldritch effect I get- I got 1 in 8 chance to get the "no spells" one
plush thicket
no
pearl storm
good for them cuz at 7 i get shadow blade which is psycich dmg
Rhea resiszs that one if I'm not wrong
pearl storm
I don't know which eldritch effect I get- I got 1 in 8 chance to get the "no spe...
Eh all of them are good
dark stream
there's some funny "fall prone" ones though- and of course the big "choose action or movement not both" ones
pearl storm
Yea depending on it id we have familiars also pre casted then I got an Familiar for the party
plush thicket
familiar ain't gonna do much
pearl storm
Telekinetic will also allow me to get our fighters put of fights with no opportunity attack penalty
potent crypt
if we did party vs party with cannons current campaigns i would feel less optimistic as i'm not yet familiar with my parties abilities and we lack range
pearl storm
And Blood Bond can empower one strongly and I can cast many spells and cantrips through them
plush thicket
Yea depending on it id we have familiars also pre casted then I got an Familiar ...
unfortunately, it has 1hp and it instantly dies
pearl storm
As long as I get to bite it with my hungry jaws so I get a bit of temporary hit points it's alright
potent crypt
gets 1HP and a cruse cuz u killed ur own familiar
dark stream
the biggest issue if we did pvp as cannon says- is that the fight would likely start with a surprise round
where their rogues just straight up destroys Rhea and Jo-Rah, then slinks back into the shadows, and our tougher fighters
would have to find them, or get sneak attacked again
dnd isn't designed around pvp after all
pearl storm
gets 1HP and a cruse cuz u killed ur own familiar
Nah I get 3
dark stream
pearl storm
the biggest issue if we did pvp as cannon says- is that the fight would likely s...
Eh we'll get them
plush thicket
you also forget that Yaromir is a sticking machine now, you literally can't get away from him if he gets close
potent crypt
Eh we'll get them
u won't get a turn
at lv.6 i get to suprise attack u with booming blade
dark stream
would be fun however- to have a oneshot thing post-campaign, where we're all high level (at least 16+) where
the rest of the party takes on Rhea by herself, who has gone insane
potent crypt
even with low rolls i'm bound to do solid dmg and u won't be able to move without taking dmg
dark stream
but for that fight, I'd ask to have the "amulet of the devout" for the spell save
would be fun
see if a high-level Rhea could control all of them to kill each other before they reach her
pearl storm
you also forget that Yaromir is a sticking machine now, you literally can't get ...
Doesn't Yaromir suck massively at intelligence? Jo-Rah casts Enemies Abound and now he kills his party
And besides that anyone who doesn't have ranged attacks and relies on melee can get a Levitate and they will literally be stuck for the whole fight in the air and can't do anything
Jo-Rah still got controll spells too
pearl storm
Hmm it was his Charisma?
pearl storm
you do realise he has a ranged weapon right?
Not talking about Yaromir and Levitate
Saying anyone who relies on melee only with no other thing
Hmm perhaps your Monk
But yea Yaromir would get hit with Enemies Abound
plush thicket
again tho, you're assuming that you just get to do this stuff and our party isn't gonna do anything to stop you
potent crypt
the party from tomb of annihilation would probably kick both our parties asses or?
dark stream
anyone attempts to act hostile towards anyone of M31's friends, she goes into a rage
she nearly engaged the big bandit boss that branded liger
pearl storm
again tho, you're assuming that you just get to do this stuff and our party isn'...
Hey on whose side are you? Root for your players
plush thicket
I root for my own damn character tyvm
potent crypt
from what i understand the brand won't have much of a negative effect unles we return to the city
potent crypt
liger left confused as hes target vanished infront of him
pearl storm
Although looking it would seem like Enmies Abound is better on ranged characters since each time the possesed person gets attacked he has another chance of making the saving throw
pearl storm
*vortex warps majora right in front of yaromir*
Nuh uh
potent crypt
one part ur missing is u need to succeed on hitting him and have him fail the save
pearl storm
The problem we got here is that we can't calculate the other members of the Grim Hollow crew well since they don't share enough here in order to know what subclass and character they will be
pearl storm
I still wonder so much ehat they are gonna do
I am 60% sure Myrdle is gonna be a Vermin Lord
Since she already got the rat theme
Beans honestly has probably no idea either what his subclass gonna be cause Cannon forced him into playing Fighter for the first time
Travesty is also not quite sure what he wants to become
potent crypt
he could make a meme char called beans and have him be a tank with heavy armor that looks like a big can
so he becomes can of beans
pearl storm
Don't say that while he's around cause he would totally start doing that
But he already is the funny guy in oir dark and gritty campaign
He literally is illiterate and his journal is some scribble no one can decipher and has randomly numbers used there too instead of letters
potent crypt
unliterate?
pearl storm
And he got a pet Rat in his backpacket
pearl storm
unliterate?
Oh fuck
potent crypt
isn't it illiterate?
potent crypt
hollow plume
But yea Yaromir would get hit with Enemies Abound
he did get hit with this a similar spell. He was outta action for a round or two but yelled as a free action to stay clear of him
plush thicket
I wasn't even out of action
pearl storm
Yarrrr Omir
plush thicket
I was still hitting the enemies cause they were the closest targets
hollow plume
yup
pearl storm
Can any of yoir characters go and touch people with an invisible mage hand though?
pearl storm
Oh the evil you could do with one
hollow plume
Liger was able to signal an NPC in a very tense standoff
pearl storm
the invisible mage hand is literally the arcane trickster's thing
How am I supposed to know
Arcane Trickster is just the boring Misfortune Bringer
pearl storm
Liger was able to signal an NPC in a very tense standoff
Next time he should just use the hand to grab the enemies by the balls
plush thicket
Sangromancer is just a evocation wizard with a blood fetish
pearl storm
It will confuse them (and possibly arrouse them) so much that they will let their guard down and Val can get advantage
plush thicket
you rolled a 1 and missed
hollow plume
Arcane Trickster is just the boring Misfortune Bringer
maybe you should reconsider relying on a class' "brokenness" to carry you through a campaign and focus on personal flavour for things....
potent crypt
It will confuse them (and possibly arrouse them) so much that they will let thei...
tho i could do such a thing it's weird so i won't
also mage hand isn't very strong in terms of grip i think
pearl storm
maybe you should reconsider relying on a class' "brokenness" to carry you throug...
Bro what is it with you? Have you seen all the shit I write and how I love lore, reflavour stuff and work on the theme?
plush thicket
behave
pearl storm
Just cause I also like to try to make combat nice and as cool as my rest stuff doesn't mean I don't know or do the other
potent crypt
u just give the impression ur trying to make Jo-rah as strong as possible
hollow plume
^^ and twist things from 5e out of their mechanics
pearl storm
u just give the impression ur trying to make Jo-rah as strong as possible <:pota...
Is it wrong to make your character good both rp and mechanically?
potent crypt
not at all
pearl storm
If you wanna make sure of the fact that I love storytelling and rp the most you can always be up to let me DM a game
potent crypt
i remember u refering to some other subclasses as being worse then others
no such thing
no bad classes or chars only bad luck and bad players
potent crypt
If you wanna make sure of the fact that I love storytelling and rp the most you ...
i am
pearl storm
I didn't play Skyrim for over one thousand hรถurs cause it is mechanically the most fun but cause no other game allowed such freedom of roleplay
potent crypt
witcher
pearl storm
I don't like DnD cause I cam go and roll a dice to make a big number but because I can roleplay, make cool stories and do that alongside other people
potent crypt
tho u are locked into being geralt
potent crypt
minecraft
pearl storm
That uh.... is debatable...
potent crypt
minecraft is one of the gratest games made i think
pearl storm
Anywas invintation is still open for anyone who wants to either do a one shot or interested in a full campaign
potent crypt
it's "improvement" are questionable but purely from what u can do with creativity it's an amazing game
dark stream
I'm excited to see Rhea grow
potent crypt
as am i
dark stream
is my first time playing an actual caster- and even then
she's not just your average "spam huge flashy spells" caster
potent crypt
yeah around the neck of the BBEG
dark stream
it's a magic item specifically for clerics- it has three rarities; +1, +2 and +3
and it increases your spell save by it's rarity number, and gives an extra use of channel divinity
I hoped I could start with the weakest one(+1) off killing one of the inquisitors
but I guess the item is too good for early characters
potent crypt
i can't think of what i wanna do so i think i'll finaly make my dullahan
now which class did i decide on again
i wanted to multiclass warlock atleast
aizo u happen to remember?
dark stream
you at least talked of paladin and warlock
you mentioned being a knight character, but also having access to some spells
so like, paladin, or eldritch knight maybe
though you also mentioned warlock
hollow plume
telepathy is great, Kevin was funny with it
i loved just using message to talk but vocally he oculd only say one word
potent crypt
plan is to make a dullahan char
dark stream
you could start with the variant human race, and start with "telepathic" feat
potent crypt
dark stream
potent crypt
that is the plan
warlock is to not be limited in a telepathy
i won't need to know the language
but yes i think oath of vengence and great old one multiclass is what i want
dark stream
if you specifically want the warlock's great one telepathy you can start as that, since you get it lv1, and multiclass into a knight class later
potent crypt
if you specifically want the warlock's great one telepathy you can start as that...
i can still start as having heavy armor and big sword?
armor most important
dark stream
i can still start as having heavy armor and big sword?
no, need paladin or other heavy class for that
dark stream
is why I suggested being a variant human so you start with telepathy, and just be a paladin or eldritch knight(fighter)
potent crypt
i likely will or atleast be something that allows to to get telepathy the benefit of the warlock is i won't need to know the language
potent crypt
true
i think i'll start oath of vengeance for armor as such
and think about if i want warlock later or not
dark stream
now, do you want oath of vengeance, or oath of zeal from grim hollow
zeal is basically "the other vengance"
potent crypt
it will be difficult for me to stick to the oath i feel
potent crypt
actualy nvm
dark stream
eldritch knight is also a heavy armour class with spells
dark stream
i can decide for myself what a heretic is
yup
dark stream
just remember not to have that be too broad
because as an oath, that'd mean you'd have to pursue and attempt execution if you saw someone be cruel in the city
did you read "the box" short story in the book cannon sent?
potent crypt
how could i possibly sit idly by while acts of cruelty is being commited infront of me
potent crypt
did you read "the box" short story in the book cannon sent?
the one with the girl?
dark stream
dark stream
the one with the girl?
yee, I considered having it be Rhea's backstory, and the girl be Rhea
dark stream
but, the point is- notice how the inquisitors just flat out executes the mother and children in the streets, because they believe it right?
potent crypt
if i was in the grim hollow campaign i would be a hostile to the inquisition by default
dark stream
an oath to eradicate all evil/bad peepos, would mean doing exactly that, if you believed them "bad" even in the middle of a city
potent crypt
true
dark stream
is part of why playing a paladin can be difficult- though I'm sure our dms won't be too mean
potent crypt
i think vengeance fits best since i want vengeance against whoever cursed me
hollow plume
unlike BG3, paladin oaths have a lot more wiggle room
potent crypt
i like devotion
dark stream
simply attempt to talk peepos out of fighting first
but you're allowed to actively engage demons and undead and such
dark stream
roll for stats, then delete and make the same character and roll again, rinse repeat
until you god-roll and get full 18s
potent crypt
6,2,5,2=13
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just kidding, that's cheating of course
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wait no
math>.<
yes is right 13
4,3,3,2=10
3,6,5,3=14
3,5,5,6=16
a good one 
2,3,4,6=13
i think thats over all pretty good
16,14,13,13,13,10
actualy not 1 below 10 is really good isn't it?
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probably can go something like
Str: 16
Dex: 13
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 13
Cha: 13
you wanted to be mainly paladin, right?
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probably can go something like
Str: 16
Dex: 13
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 13
Cha: 13
yup, like this then
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charisma is your spell modifier, so you "could" move the 14 into that, and 13 into con
but as a melee character, you kind of want a good amount of health
and smite doesn't work off charisma anyway
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variant human i can get both charisma and wisdom to 14 as well
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yup
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is there any race that comes with the telepathy feat?
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or con and str to 17 and 15- then you'd only need one ASI to get both to 18 and 16
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or ability to pick a feat like variant human?
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or con and str to 17 and 15- then you'd only need one ASI to get both to 18 and ...
oh yeah i could do that
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is there any race that comes with the telepathy feat?
ghostwise halflings, and verdan have inherent telepathy