Dungeons and Dragons

[hollow plume]

@dark stream if you want, I will allow you to help @craggy pelican melt down three of Sparks' daggers into a shortsword

With the combined use of shocking grasp, fire spells and magical tinkering

[craggy pelican]

if its mundane i might as well buy 1 lol , at least make it magic

like just magic damage not even +1

considering we'll be making it via magical means i dont think thats too far reaching

actually hmm , one of the effects of tinkering is to make things glow right? what about i get this https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:moon-touched-sword , a glowing magic shortsword , its common too

[hollow plume]

For magic damage you need to spend 100gp to coat it in silver

So instead of buying it, I will give you the moon-touched shortsword, just subtract three daggers from your inventory

[craggy pelican]

yaaay

[potent crypt]

[plush thicket]

likely next week tho right?

[potent crypt]

Next was december so 6th?

[pearl storm]

Cannon are you streaming the two double D's today?

[plush thicket]

no

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-seals-seal-of-disappointment-disappointment-sadness-gif-453363407792044327

But thinking for one second it actually makes sense

It's subathon and all 4 guys of you are avid watchers

[potent crypt]

have jeannie joine problem solved

[hollow plume]

Coin toss but yes

[potent crypt]

[plush thicket]

help chat dono an extra 50 subs or so and that's less of a joke then you think

[potent crypt]

can't afford 50 but if it's just 50 total then i'll go check how much money i got to spare

[plush thicket]

no Val I'm making a joke

[potent crypt]

oh

https://tenor.com/view/senko-poute-hmph-pouting-mope-sulk-gif-15650605

[plush thicket]

don't put yourself in danger money wise

[potent crypt]

i'm doing fine i'm even gonna buy ARC raiders next week

[plush thicket]

gift subs if you want to and can afford it but don't feel like you have too

[potent crypt]

huh i'm doing really well this month

wtf

i can gift subs and i can buy chicken

[pearl storm]

DND WITH JEANNIE

But most importantly

DND IN GENERAL

No matter if Jeans or not Jeans

DND

[hollow plume]

was it redeemed?

[plush thicket]

yep

currently over 1600

[hollow plume]

nice, well I wonder how she'll set that up

[potent crypt]

oh wait the dnd thing wasn't only a joke?

[plush thicket]

it was a legit sub redeem

[potent crypt]

goes into debt

[plush thicket]

but it's just a one-shot and not her joining a campaign

IT'S BEEN FUNDED VAL

YOU DON'T HAVE TOO

[potent crypt]

looking forward to it

she had played before right?

[hollow plume]

she did with Henry yes

smth about him having to handle how murderhobo she and Kai were

[plush thicket]

but I think it was kinda... horny from what I remember

[hollow plume]

and fireballs. lots of fireballs

[plush thicket]

and yuki

[potent crypt]

[plush thicket]

plus she's played BG3 and that's a pretty good starting point

[potent crypt]

oh yeah

[dark stream]

two different ways, even

[hollow plume]

I suppose Jeannie will find someone here since she knows Cannon and I (via reddit) are DMs or find someone to do this oneshot

[pearl storm]

Yea she choose Cannon

[plush thicket]

yeah, she said she would when she was explaining the goals

she didn't choose me

she said I was an option

[pearl storm]

Get mad on her now Justin for calling Cannon and not you

[hollow plume]

she said it was an option lol why would I get mad

[pearl storm]

Meh practically chosen since you were the only one mentioned and she knows you

[plush thicket]

also Justin understands that I'm a better dm then him

[dark stream]

majo, let the adults talk

[potent crypt]

oh shes playing with community?

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

just kidding Justin I love you

[pearl storm]

So you should stop talking to then

[pearl storm]

No idea

[plush thicket]

she hasn't said
I'm imagining that she's gonna ask her friends to be in the group

[potent crypt]

so there is a chance she could try the redpanda thing cannon made

[pearl storm]

But one DM here

[potent crypt]

ah i see

so just u or justin as potential DM's

[plush thicket]

there's a chance but I won't push it on her even slightly

AND NEITHER WILL ANY OF YOU

[pearl storm]

Hey I am also a DM now

[plush thicket]

IS THAT CLEAR

[pearl storm]

I truly don't care

I just like seing DnD

[potent crypt]

i won't

*dm's jeannie *

[hollow plume]

Neither Cannon or I will pressure Jeannie in any shape or form, if she messages us or messages a third party, that is on her, do I make myself clear.

[potent crypt]

u haven't started a campaign yet have u?

ur like a half DM

[pearl storm]

WELL IF YOU AND OTHERS WOULD JOIN I WOULD START ONE

[plush thicket]

there will be consequences for anyone who pressures her at all

[potent crypt]

haven't me and aizo said we would?

[potent crypt]

ofc

i had assumed it would be a 3rd party and with her friends then u guys mentioned she said cannon and justine was options so i thought maybe she was thinking of playing with community

i'll be happy to watch either way

[hollow plume]

hosting D&D on stream goes two ways

either it becomes an audio-drama like thing where there's just the avatars talking

or it's a stream of the map via something like Roll20

occasionally a fusion of the two occurs

[plush thicket]

yeah, we'll see how she wants to handle things

[hollow plume]

[plush thicket]

using a VTT for my game with Ancal, Beans and Aizo has been really good tho

[pearl storm]

Yea I been liking Owlbear Rodeo too

Exploring it all and all the nice tools you can use

For both DM and player

As player I think you also are more up on the game and paying attention cause you are actually doing stuff in there

And even in your offtime you can use some of the tools to just measure your distance to some or how many creatures are gonna be effected from this spell you are planning to use

So you don't have to wait till the DM is up or its your turn to find that out

And planning should be easier in general and take less time if you use those tools

[pearl storm]

@dark stream by the way since chat talked about it

Can't you set up a good voice bot?

Instea dod using the normal tts

[plush thicket]

we tried to find a good one when she was joining the first game

[pearl storm]

I mean you are a mod so you could actually make a new bot if you wanted

[plush thicket]

I think that was the best one we found and it's not exactly great

[pearl storm]

Well that's annoying

Hmm

I want to look into it

[plush thicket]

make a private server for yourself and test a bunch of stuff out

[pearl storm]

I did want to talk over that topic anyways with Aiz incase our campaign gets set up

[dark stream]

problem is, the best voice bot is still a "bot talking"

[pearl storm]

Since she wanted to play

[pearl storm]

Well it can be better then writing in some situations

[dark stream]

you can't make tones and "special" connotations and what not

[pearl storm]

Cause your messages do get lost sometimes when we all talk

[plush thicket]

I guess question is

[pearl storm]

For some more serious times it could be good

[plush thicket]

how do you find the Journal method as a viewer Majo?

[pearl storm]

Oh that screen with the writing up top?

If it's that then I can tell you exactly how I feel about it

TERRIBLE

[dark stream]

only because other peepos talk in the chat, when they're supposed to be silent and let the players play

[plush thicket]

ok fair

[pearl storm]

The journal is small but also messages get so fast deleted

Or welm just don't show up

I seriously had no idea what Aizo said most times if one of you didn't read it out

[pearl storm]

Or maybe because DnD is a game where your supposed to talk

Oh Cannon

Wait

[plush thicket]

too late, I left

[pearl storm]

While I did play with Owlbeqr I found one feature I liked

That you could use for Aizo

I don't know if it's also from the journal but it's the sending some big displayed emote kinda thing

I think there are 3 things you can do witg it

A thumbs up

A hold/can I talk

And one that is a big

No

[plush thicket]

yeah, that could work in combination with the journal method

[pearl storm]

Aizo could use just one of them to signal when seh eanys to say something

Cause no ones misses it

[dark stream]

sounds disruptive

[pearl storm]

I planned on having it used for you and when a player wants to just say "STOP" when somebody is making him feel uncomfortable

[plush thicket]

thing is tho, if we're missing messages because of the current system then clealy we need something a bit more disruptive to make sure you're heard

[dark stream]

nothing have been missed that I wanted heard yet

[dark stream]

ah, it makes perfect sense now- why when you want to tell someone something you never just say it, you always ask whether you can first

I'm happy to try different things if current things aren't working out, but something that disruptive is a big no

[plush thicket]

I'll look into it and see how disruptive it is

[dark stream]

I always get irked when peepos are like "can I ask you something?" and similar, and then wait for me to respond
like, I don't know what you want to say yet, so I can't say yes or no..

just say what you want from the get go

[potent crypt]

can i ask u something?

https://tenor.com/view/blue-box-ao-no-hako-aonohako-hina-blue-box-hina-chouno-hina-gif-11183049685635494077

[burnt storm]

Can I ask you about my stock portfolio?

[dark stream]

translation "recognize my existence-" and then the question will just be like, "how are you?"

[dark stream]

yes

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/senpai-notice-me-senpai-neo-gif-9714277

notice me

[burnt storm]

Well, it might be because you are really kind to people. So they want to tell you their biggest problem, but they're worried because you're not their sibling.

[burnt storm]

Actually, I have a 401K, but whenever I've tried I've outperformed it. But my techniques can be kind of weird.

[potent crypt]

parb rich

[burnt storm]

Like when Russia invaded Ukraine, I bought Polish ishares. My reasoning was, "They will go back up, or Russia will invade Poland and start WW3, in which case my investments probably will all crash anyway."

No.

[burnt storm]

I still have a credit card with debt on it. But I haven't bothered because my extra money has been mostly in NAK since I got the new job.

For about three years my job was delivering amazon and pizzas. And there are Way too many people still in that spot.

[potent crypt]

NAK?

[burnt storm]

I would not suggest investing in it. NAK is a mining stock where the EPA said they couldn't mine due to unspecified violations to the clean water act.

[potent crypt]

[burnt storm]

I invested in it, betting that under the current admin in the US they would probably get permission

But it's a Wild speculation about the future.

[potent crypt]

if i could only companty i'd invest in is nordic or nord? mining

[pearl storm]

Yeeee

[potent crypt]

since they found all that phosfor

idk how it's written >.<

[burnt storm]

Ya, I think I read an article about that.

[potent crypt]

it's some years ago now

[burnt storm]

phfosfhporuous.

[potent crypt]

yes

[burnt storm]

These things being said, most of my life I've been doing jobs like lifeguarding and working at pizza.

[potent crypt]

since it's in the us i'd imagine they aren't very well paid or?

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-shut-your-mouth-slap-slapping-gif-8050553153066707611

[pearl storm]

Biatch I planned that it's for when you wrote something that you want to have read out before other peeps go completely over what you wanted to do. And the stop as an esy way to just tell stopp cause saying something is sometimes much harder then just doing a simple sign

[burnt storm]

Anyhow, work on my campaign is going pretty well.

[pearl storm]

So are you rich or what?

[subtle imp]

Why not just use a separate chat box like with Ancal????

[plush thicket]

that one is in the VTT and has some issues

[plush thicket]

what's the name of the extension

[pearl storm]

Wait a moment I'll go up tp my laptop and look ot up

@plush thicket rumble

[burnt storm]

I don't know how to answer. My assets slightly more than cover my debt, but I don't have the $ to buy a new car, or even a good motorcycle. But then a lot of people in the US do not have assets which cover their debt.

[plush thicket]

hmm it's kinda big

[pearl storm]

These are my extension which I think are all really good

[burnt storm]

That's what she said.

[pearl storm]

Only one I can't advise yet is the monster manual one

[pearl storm]

Game Masters Grimoire I meant

Cannon you could try out the Djinni music player next week on your session

But beware that Soundcloud and a few specific kinda links wirk only for the player now

[dark stream]

@pearl storm hey majo, want to make an attempt at making an owlin gloomstalker ranger on heroforge, that doesn't look silly?

[pearl storm]

Oh now you want my help?

https://tenor.com/view/ares-xwp-xena-warrior-princess-kevin-tod-smith-the-furies-gif-19105023

But yes Aizo

Just to show everyone that I'm the greatest heroforger

https://tenor.com/view/so-you-need-me-lorna-harding-valerie-mahaffey-dead-to-me-here-for-you-gif-17803579

@dark stream you're gonna need to say though what you're going for

The theme and vague look

[dark stream]

"gloomstalker" subclass, they basically specialize in hunting within absolute darkness
she's supposed to be quite smol(though not for an owlin), with a pale feathering(not quite white, but near)

and as any good ranger, she uses a bow-- speficially a longbow
so she can fight at very long ranges

[pearl storm]

I will work on this when I'm home

Maybe that will be a nice change as I still haven't finished a kibd off definitive look for my Sanguine Warforged

Cause designing a whole race is kinda hard

[plush thicket]

Heroforge doesn't have an owlin option, it has Ravenfolk but that's as close as it gets

[pearl storm]

Cause I don't wanna limit the thoughts/imagination on the race

[dark stream]

silly heroforge, doesn't have the best race

[plush thicket]

tbh I thought they did have it

but I checked and it wasn't there

SOON(tm)

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

Oh nice

Been looking up stuff on it recently too

Now I got what some peeps meant on the new GH still being in progress

It's only a pdf for the kickstarters yet but no final edition

[dark stream]

the misfortune bringer rogue looks really fun: https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Rogue:_Misfortune_Bringer

[pearl storm]

Also is transformed the new title for the updated edition?

[pearl storm]

Yea indeed

[dark stream]

can roleplay some really chuuni character

"my evil eye--"

[pearl storm]

ButI am very hyped for the Sanguine Thief

A bew subclass in the new edition

Generally very hyped On the new subclasses for all the classes

And also the whole new Monster Hunter class

An Intelligence based fighter

Good concept honestly

And Intelligence based classes are needed in DnD anyways

Wizards and Artficiers sitting there alone in the corner

While Charisma got like 4 classes

[dark stream]

right, I always forget bard exists

although

eldritch knight and arcane trickster also use intelligence

the misfortune rogue uses charisma though

so there's like 5 charisma, 4 intelligence, 3 wisdom

[plush thicket]

will be my next character that I play

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

does she read as a Gith btw?

[dark stream]

now that you say it, I can see the similarities to like, lae'zel and her kin
but to be honest, I was thinking orc/half-orc

[plush thicket]

there's not a specific Gith race on HF

[dark stream]

yeah

[plush thicket]

so I did vampire head with some weird race

[dark stream]

it works though

[plush thicket]

foreclaimer body

that's what I used

[dark stream]

would probably be good for barbarian or rune knights as well

[pearl storm]

I always forget they are an actual full caster

[pearl storm]

Subclasses don't count

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/monoco-clair-obscur-clair-obscur-feet-gif-15259463220646609825

[pearl storm]

Yea although it's cause I know that you love Gith

[pearl storm]

Yea that's what I use as main body for my Sanguine Warforged

[pearl storm]

What story and stuff on her though?

You know you could play her if you'd join my campaign

[plush thicket]

Like many Githzerai that end up on the material plane, she ran from the responsibilities and suffocating structure of the monks
When she reached the material plane she joined one of the artists guilds and became a painter
now she wanders the land, taking odd jobs and creating art

[dark stream]

samurai subclass?

[plush thicket]

she's a monk

[dark stream]

you did talk about the sun soul, I remember

[plush thicket]

yee

she never uses her actual hands, it's either her sword, feet or ki

[dark stream]

I like that theme for monks

[plush thicket]

she doesn't want to accidentally hurt her hands and not be able to paint anymore

[dark stream]

imagine the burly, old monk some youthful fighter challenges or encounters
but the monk just stays constantly with arms crossed, and only kicks the young fighter

or that one boss in wukong

[plush thicket]

unfortunetly most of the sun soul abilities are kinda ass

like at lv6 I can use ki to cast burning hands....

and that's it

[dark stream]

I think the big thing for sun soul monks is the ranged radiant attacks you get as you pick the subclass

and later a radiant fireball

[plush thicket]

yeah, it's pretty much the only reason to play the subclass

[pearl storm]

Feet you say?

https://tenor.com/view/monoco-clair-obscur-clair-obscur-feet-gif-15259463220646609825

[plush thicket]

as in kicks you weirdo

[pearl storm]

Wuxia

I swear I have seen those already

Like those kinda fights

[dark stream]

a lot of peepos seem to agree that the monk class' subclasses make little sense, since the abilities hardly function off each other and such
or like, you get 1 thing, a second thing that has nothing to do with the first, and then a third thing that has nothing to do with the 2 first

[pearl storm]

Or maybe it's also because I fully imagined and made a fight like that in my mind for a tving once

[dark stream]

mercy monk is the only one where the whole subclass is all about "hands of healing/harm"

but base monk gets such good stuff anyway that the subclasses is basically just a smol addon

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/you-don't-say-uh-huh-nod-nodding-mm-hmm-gif-10011426157199047873

Cool

[plush thicket]

if she ever goes up against undead tho, they're cooked XD

[dark stream]

I considered making a "leaden crown" monk, but that too would basically just be for the ranged psychic unarmed attacks

[plush thicket]

all radient damage pretty much

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

but can't wait for higher levels where she becomes functionally immortal

[pearl storm]

Yea

Heard that too

[plush thicket]

oh and because she's Gith, she gets shield once per rest

[pearl storm]

Cannon would you allow the 2024 monks in terms of the change that they got for their damage?

[plush thicket]

no idea

[dark stream]

looks like it's just 1 tier up on the martial arts die
so they start at 1d6 instead, and the same levels as in 5e increase it to next tier

[plush thicket]

oh

then no

I think monks have a good enough power curve as is

hyper mobile, hyper versatile AND have one of the best abilities in the game fullstop

they don't really need extra damage

[dark stream]

to me, monks were never a damage dealer, at least not like a "main" damage dealer

[plush thicket]

yeah, pretty much

like they can stun or knock prone ect

they apply cc for the other front liners to deal the damage

[dark stream]

yes stunning strike is powerful, but even without that
their style is a lot of hit'n'run while applying various effects

[plush thicket]

they're basically rogues but with consistent damage instead of burst

[dark stream]

we all know the funny "deflect missiles" monks have- in 2024 it's gotten an upgrade, shall we say:

which further improves at lv13:

I mean, just make monks invincible, why don't they

[plush thicket]

this is kinda my issue with them

like every class is meant to have strengths and weaknesses

and monks just kinda have everything

[dark stream]

but like, I know pvp isn't really a thing in dnd, often at least
but fighting hoomanoids is fairly common
and what does the strongest physical attacks hit for? 1d12 + mod? so like, at most 17, or 20 if it's a +3 legendary weapon

means if you're a level 5 monk, you can completely deflect a lv20 martial class' swing for free
or if you're lv20 yourself, you just negate an entire attack for free

[plush thicket]

maybe with an extra D6 elemental damage if you have a particually spicy weapon

[dark stream]

so maximum roll with an especially divine buffed weapon, you can get 6 damage in on the monk, as a leve 20 character, against a level 5 monk

the lv20 monk would instead have a minimum of 26 reduced any damage, up to 34

[plush thicket]

the main thing there is just that at least the lv20 is gonna get more attacks after the first and beat the shit out of the lv5

[dark stream]

yee

[plush thicket]

but yeah, it's dumb

[dark stream]

and it doesn't even cost ki, unless chosen with the extra effect
so they just reduce a buuunch of damage each turn, for free- when their playstyle
already is based around rarely actually taking hits

I mean..

it sounds so weak

we should totally have that

[plush thicket]

you basically have to use extremely powerful cc abilities to lock them down

but odds are they won't even work because they get proficiency in ALL saving throws

[dark stream]

not to mention:

and practically "free" resistance to all damage for a minute:

[pearl storm]

Funny that you say that while everything I'm hearing is that Monk is the DnD communities new laughing stock since Rangers got an upgrade

[dark stream]

oh I failed? I guess I'll just roll again

rangers doesn't need an upgrade either

gloomstalker is already absurd in everything they do

impossible to fight against, one shot everything

[plush thicket]

Rangers as a whole were pretty bad ngl

it's just very very specific builds that were good

like gloomstalker

[pearl storm]

Yea that's the problem

Everything based around Gloomstalker

[dark stream]

#1415615400585990165 message

[pearl storm]

A subclass and not the actual class

[dark stream]

lv3 character, minimum 32 damage

minimum

[pearl storm]

Aizo that is LITERALLY a specific build

[dark stream]

yeah, but having a sickly powerful subclass means they can't buff the class itself

since it'll buff the subclass too

[plush thicket]

it means they buff the class and neft the subclass

[dark stream]

as it should be

[plush thicket]

cause lets face it, Beast master is a laughing stock, like actually fucking pathetic
Hunter is decent
and the rest of them are just worse versions of other classes

[naive moss]

Tbh rangers are only good early game

[plush thicket]

it's just Gloomstalker that's good

[dark stream]

[naive moss]

Unless you multiclass and then if your multiclass you don’t go to more than 4 ranger as there’s fighter

[plush thicket]

but again, just gloomstalker that's good

[dark stream]

yeah gloomstalker is ridiculous

[plush thicket]

everything else is either average or below par

[naive moss]

Yh

[plush thicket]

and Ranger base isn't anything great either

[naive moss]

Fatale warden is decent

Drake*

(How did auto correct get there)

[plush thicket]

Hunter scales the best through the levels but it's still not great

[dark stream]

about the few only things I actually like from the 2024 version, is the changed scaling on "heavy armour master" and "alert" feats now scaling with proficiency bonus, and then the "epic boons" at lv19

[plush thicket]

colossus slayer for an extra 1D8 damage
multiattack defence for tankyness
eventual evasion or uncanny dodge

[naive moss]

Yh

[pearl storm]

Yea and that's it

You can't have a whole class with only one subclass that is actually good

[pearl storm]

THIS

A subclass called fu king BEASTMASTER sounds so awesome and flavourful

It shouldn't be worthless

[naive moss]

So true

[pearl storm]

Like I think of one Skyrim build from Skypothesis called that way

[naive moss]

I have a player in a campaign who is a nature cleric who early on in an adventure managed to adopt a direwolf so I’ve worked with them to make the beast master actually good

[pearl storm]

Besides the whole other kinda fantasy ideas and themes around Beastmasters in general

[plush thicket]

basically it shouldn't take my action to get my beast to attack

otherwise it does nothing

[pearl storm]

Bro that is your reaction

[dark stream]

when I think of subclasses needing some gentle care, I immediately think of cavalier fighter

[naive moss]

It’s a Bonus action

[pearl storm]

Like Haunted Sorcerer

Using your reaction

[pearl storm]

Or yea a bunos action atleast

[dark stream]

you can work things out with your dm, but at the very least you shouldn't be able to so easily lose your mount

[naive moss]

Yh I really like the Tasha change to it making it a “summon”

[plush thicket]

You can use your action to verbally command it to take the Attack, Dash, Disengage, or Help action. If you don’t issue a command, the beast takes the Dodge action.

[pearl storm]

Yea but that stuff shows that it's kinda done bad though

Like needing to do the extra work yourself with your DM

[pearl storm]

Bruh

Cmon man

That's really not it like it could be way cooler

[plush thicket]

for a 1/4cr beast that has no health or damage scaling throughout the game

[pearl storm]

WAIT ONLY 1/4 CR?!

[dark stream]

for the beastmaster stuff, grim hollow's primal path barbarian did it better

[naive moss]

Tbh all the change I did was allow the use of a dire wolf stat block as the mount they found it with a ravens slumber) and the hp and proficiency scales with total character level not just ranger levels

[dark stream]

https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Barbarian:_Path_of_the_Primal_Spirit

this one

is what beast master wishes it were

[plush thicket]

https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/ranger:beast-master

like I said

Beast master is a fucking pathetic subclass

[potent crypt]

I made one of these

[plush thicket]

legit the worst in the game

[naive moss]

This is why we use Tashas

[potent crypt]

Got a Wolf named fenris

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

Bro I didn't knew it was THAT bad

[dark stream]

the spirit path barbarian uses a bonus action to command the beast
the beast also scales with your level

[naive moss]

I honestly wish the fighter or barbarian had a subclass for a pet (official)

[dark stream]

and if it dies, you can resummon it

[dark stream]

barbarian does in grim hollow- the spirit path I mentioned

[pearl storm]

Grim Hollow based as always

[naive moss]

Yh

[dark stream]

"primal spirit" it was

that subclass looks cool

[naive moss]

Yh I was more meaning official subclass

[plush thicket]

and fighter has Cavalier

[naive moss]

They do but they aren’t given a mount

[pearl storm]

Grim Hollow my love

[dark stream]

I want to play a cavalier too, but I want like, a dragon turtle as a mount, and be a dragon tortle subspecies myself

[pearl storm]

I am excited to see that Fighter subclass that is about eating monsters flesh and becoming a monster mix

So cool of an idea

[dark stream]

I like the "bram" character though

[naive moss]

Yh

[dark stream]

was it a "harengon" he was?

riding a bear

[naive moss]

Yep

👍

[plush thicket]

I'm just happy with my Bulwark Fighter

he's cool af

[dark stream]

[potent crypt]

Thats yaromir right?

[dark stream]

yarrr'omir

[plush thicket]

yes Val

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/waguri-the-fragrant-flower-blooms-with-dignity-kaoru-hana-wa-rin-to-saku-kaoruko-kaoruko-waguri-gif-16551697666066872446

[pearl storm]

Agreed

I really like the Bulwark too

I talked about him a lot with Aizo whike you were away

[potent crypt]

I wasn't sure if that was how hes name was spelled or if u made a pirate pun at first

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/murphy-pirate-pekingese-mix-ithink-gif-12411842

[dark stream]

is the next tier after d12 a d20? or is there something inbetween?

[pearl storm]

D20 I think

[plush thicket]

His name is an amalgamation of words from a few languages that mean pirate

[pearl storm]

Never saw anything else

O websites too

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

because the "way of pride" grim hollow monk gets this funky ability:

[pearl storm]

Heh Sangromancer has the strongest attack dice

[dark stream]

and in 2024, monks end with d12 martial dice- meaning a pride monk in 2024, would end with martial dice of d20

[pearl storm]

Let them

They are always on the verge of death anyways so it's fine

I want to really like the Way of Pride Monk but his ability is just waaaay too focused on being nearly dead all the time

[dark stream]

not after lv17

you just need to be missing 1 health

[pearl storm]

BRO NO ONE PLAYS TO THAT LVL

[potent crypt]

Assuming yaromir isn't gonna joine us much but instead keep being a contact and Follow us when we travel i think we should find a ship to "borrow"

[pearl storm]

Aizo stop thinking anyone actually plays to lvl 15 or so

The abilities that really matter are the 6th 10th and the one when your subclass starts

If these are ass then 90% of your time will be bad

I feel like if you wanna rock a way of pride monk you gotta have a Cleric and or Sangromancer with you

Or just a Wizard/Sorcerer taking the reanimate spell

[plush thicket]

reanimate isn't a revive spell

[pearl storm]

It's a smart thing though that Grim Hollow introduced the reanimate spell

[pearl storm]

[pearl storm]

What I wanted to say is that it's smart since Clerics are supposed to be less common in the world

And that can extend to players

[dark stream]

ah but here's the kicker- flurry of blows after a certain level in 2024 let's you add 3 extra unarmed attacks, and if we consider them having
20 dex, and wearing the gloves of soul catching-- a 2024 pride monk gets to hit for 4d20 + 8d10 + 20 every turn

[pearl storm]

But there still is this so you don't need someone being a Cleric in order to bring back people to life

[pearl storm]

Girl decide which 5e you wanna play at

You switching too much around

[plush thicket]

maybe I'll run a high level one shot just for you Aizo

[dark stream]

I don't want to touch 2024- it's got bad decision written all over it

[pearl storm]

Ending up to be a 5e 2014 purist like those 3e pursists

Tell why bad decisions though? Really a lot I saw was pretty cool

[dark stream]

for one- 2024 nerfed literaly god

[pearl storm]

That bitch deserved it tbough

[naive moss]

I’ve just had a look and couldn’t find Bram so I’ve had to make it (I have my original stats and I believe everything is the same but can’t remember how much gold I was at etc

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-sanchez-rick-and-morty-and-morty-gif-5820899

[dark stream]

in 5e divine intervention is as the spell says- god intervening, and the dm deciding what it does
in 2024, it just let's you cast a 5th lv spell or lower for free as an action

best use of it is to cast hallow instantly

[pearl storm]

Not gonna lie god had it coming

[plush thicket]

you'd earned a little but had spent some on food/rooms so I have no idea where you're at

[pearl storm]

Screwing us all over

[pearl storm]

But what else?

[dark stream]

what else what? that's it

[naive moss]

👍👍 I know I was above starting but can’t remember how much should I say 50gp?

[dark stream]

you can cast a spell of your choosing at 5th level or lower, as an action

[pearl storm]

Fuck you Aizo I missed my train stop because of you

[dark stream]

as I said best use of it is to cast hallow instantly, which normally has 24hour cast time

[pearl storm]

[dark stream]

I'm just that interesting

[pearl storm]

No just talking too much

[plush thicket]

how much was your starting?

[naive moss]

15

[plush thicket]

call it 30 then

[naive moss]

Ok

[naive moss]

It’s done again I’m sorry

[plush thicket]

no worries

[pearl storm]

Okay back to this

I meant what else is bad to you?

[dark stream]

but here's the kicker- at lv20, you can choose the "wish" spell

oooooo

the epic boons are pretty interesthing though

can pick one at lv19 in place of a feat

[pearl storm]

Weapon Masteries

[dark stream]

no

bad

[pearl storm]

Shut the fuck up you're only mad cause your backwards logic is that it makes Battle Master worse

And you only say this because you are now playing one

[dark stream]

5 of 8 of them is stolen from battle master, plus you can already in 5e
just tell your dm that you want to sweep the feet of your opponent with your weapon

the best fighter has going for it, is battle master, and then they go and take all the good things it has and give it to everyone else

I feel sorry for fighter

[pearl storm]

All I hear is some crying over somebody playing a Weapon Master currently and feeling now not so special anymore cause everyone can do its stuff now

[pearl storm]

You really are kinda special

That is the most backwards logic I have ever heard

Fighter literally got better

[pearl storm]

You complain cause the best of the fighter is now not locked anymore behind a subclass for a fighter

Actual feelsspecial moment

[dark stream]

yee

[naive moss]

The thing with fighter is they make the most attacks

[dark stream]

they made the best fighter into the worst fighter

[naive moss]

They can make 8 attacks in one turn at higher levels

[dark stream]

4 attacks at lv20, plus action surge

[pearl storm]

We already talked about this

STOP RAGEBAITING ME

[naive moss]

But you can combine them with the pushing attack and topple mastery

[pearl storm]

IT LITERALLY IS BETTER NOW

[naive moss]

And it gives the other manoeuvres some space to be used

Like bait and switch

[pearl storm]

THE DAMN BATTLE MASTER NOW HAS EVEN MORE MANEVEURS

CAUSE THEY CAN USE SOME THROUGH THEIR WEAPON MASTERIES

[dark stream]

best thing about the weapon masteries, is that they inadverdently(or maybe intentionally) buff the other fighter subclasses
since they lesser used ones that didn't really do a whole lot, can now use the battle masters tricks

opens up some fun things you can do with the other subclasses

[naive moss]

So true and the main reason why they did this is to try bridge the gap between Marshalls and spell casters

[dark stream]

yee

that's the reason 5e's battle master feels good, since you got "spells" in the form of maneuvres

[naive moss]

Yh

[dark stream]

also considering weapon damage being so low compared to spells
the fact that the superiority die pretty much doubles your damage
is a very welcome addition

[naive moss]

So true

[dark stream]

I think that's the sole thing the weapon masteries don't have- the added damage

[naive moss]

True unless you have graze

[dark stream]

graze is the one that does damage even if you miss, yes?

[naive moss]

Yh

[dark stream]

yeah it's just the "sweeping attack" maneuvre

[naive moss]

Yh

[pearl storm]

Yea fause lets be honest weaoon masteries are literally just cantrips but for martials

Cantrips are a free action and most damage dealing ones got a sideeffect like taking -d4 for next roll or some shit

So literally just cantrips for fighters so they can even do something more then just hit

[naive moss]

Yep

[pearl storm]

And even that is just your modifier damage

So at hest a 4 or 5

Which is still way better then not hitting at all

[naive moss]

Yep

[pearl storm]

Cause that's like the most infuriating thing I imaging as a fighter

You wait 5 turns for every spell caster to finish their long combo

And then on your turn you just wanna hit

[dark stream]

I haven't seen battle masters maneuvers in 2024 at all, did any of them change?

[pearl storm]

No idea

Maybe

[naive moss]

Yep and the one thing I hate and am always against dms doing is like a critical fumble table

[pearl storm]

Your ass akways said they didn't change them

Fucking liar doesn't even know it

[naive moss]

(Where rolling a nat 1 in combat) could say damage you or break your weapon etc

[dark stream]

my favourite maneuvers are still "riposte" and "parry"
since they let you do something in reaction to someone both hitting or missing you

[naive moss]

Yh

I wish there was a way to actually tank in dnd but there are only soft taunts

[dark stream]

yeah best I've found is being silly tough, and using sentinel to prevent enemies getting away from you

orym did it pretty well though, in critical role campaign 3- with the use of that "bait and switch" maneuver

[naive moss]

Yh definitely

But it requires the dm to “target” you

[plush thicket]

so far Bulwark is the best we got an that ain't even main game

[naive moss]

Yep

There are a lot of soft taunts that give disadvantage

[pearl storm]

That's bah

[dark stream]

bulwark has it, and armourer artificer has it

[pearl storm]

Only really ok in certain situations

Like in Vox Machina Grok breaking his axe against a Dragon since it was way over his levels and he also had a magic item already in his backpocket that was better then his axe

[dark stream]

for spells, "incite greed" is pretty fun as a "taunt"

[pearl storm]

The humble Bulwark Warrior

[naive moss]

Meh

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/chad-gif-25592079

[dark stream]

just charm all the enemies, and let allies pick them off one by one

[naive moss]

True

But its a charm

[dark stream]

there's also hypnotic pattern, but that one affects allies as well

[naive moss]

Yh

[dark stream]

and sleep doesn't affect enough peepos

[naive moss]

Yep

[pearl storm]

Catnap

I fucking loved the imagined spell

[dark stream]

only works on willing targets

[pearl storm]

Not what it actually is

[pearl storm]

Should have let me finish writing

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-laugh-homyatol-gif-18542044

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

Catnap is weird to be honest

It's a 3rd lvl spell

[dark stream]

when I first found the catnap spell, I also thought it was a funny loophole that just let me sleep everyone

[pearl storm]

I feel like it should have been a 2nd lvls spell but with a higher component to cast

[dark stream]

totally on the level of fireball, right?

[naive moss]

It actually is a very good spell

[pearl storm]

Cause sacrificing a 3rd lvl spell slot and known slot for a quick short rest on your party is kinda hard

[naive moss]

Especially if you have a warlock, fighter, monk

[dark stream]

yee short short rests

wait..

can warlock get catnap somehow?

[pearl storm]

It is good but just really battling against tough spells that are also 3rd lvl

[pearl storm]

Aizo

Catnap doesn't work o yourself

[dark stream]

[naive moss]

It does

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-simpsons-point-and-laugh-laugh-at-hahaha-gif-18352565

[naive moss]

You make a calming gesture, and up to three willing creatures of your choice that you can see within range fall unconscious for the spell’s duration. The spell ends on a target early if it takes damage or someone uses an action to shake or slap it awake. If a target remains unconscious for the full duration, that target gains the benefit of a short rest, and it can’t be affected by this spell again until it finishes a long rest

[pearl storm]

By the way Aizo here is the list of classes getting the spell

[naive moss]

You could be a willing creature within 30ft

[pearl storm]

That you can see though?

[naive moss]

You can see yourself

[dark stream]

no actually it should work on yourself

healing word is spelled the same way

[naive moss]

Otherwise cure wounds wouldn’t work

[pearl storm]

I once stumbled on that kinda thing too cause I asked if Telekinectic feat wouldn't allow me to push or pull myself away too

[naive moss]

That’s different

As you can’t be pushed or pulled away/ towards yourself

[pearl storm]

Well even so you still can't get it as a Warlock

So

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

[naive moss]

Multiclass

[pearl storm]

PHYSICS

[dark stream]

multiclass

as lucky says

[pearl storm]

I swear I will go to my school back and ask my physics and math teacher this so I can answer the question

Wait I got sisters who are still at my school

Oh I'm cooking

[naive moss]

How can you push yourself away from yourself

[dark stream]

cell division

[pearl storm]

I DON'T KNOW DO I LOOK LIKE I HAVE STUDIED PHYSICS???

[dark stream]

yes

[pearl storm]

That's why I wanna ask my former teacher

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-8915831303111826392

This me I guess

[dark stream]

still

this is the most cruel and evil spell in existence

[naive moss]

Yep

[dark stream]

you can just make someone have a nightmare each night
and they'll eventually die, since they doesn't regain hit points nor spell slots
and since you're literally god inside the dream, they won't even know it's you doing it
AND you can be on the other side of the galaxy while doing it

[pearl storm]

You wanna know what actually is the most cruel spell?

So I know there was a subclass that let you telepathically say things to someone/something

But it's only a one way in telepathy

Go and scream 24/7 in their head

Oh wait I think this was actually a feat

Which makes it even better cause some subclasses don't need to sleep at all

[dark stream]

it's the great old one warlock

[pearl storm]

So you can just constantly scream into their head 24/7

[pearl storm]

They will go insane or just die cause of exhaustion

THAT

Is the most fucked up thing you can do

@dark stream yea it was a feat

[pearl storm]

This feat goes up from a 4 out of 10 to a 7 out of 10 feat if social stuff is heavy in your campaign

[dark stream]

I'll just keep a telepathic bond between Rhea and Jo-Rah the entire time, so we can speak to each other telepathically

Rhea has this one, from her first level in aberrant mind sorcerer;

[pearl storm]

That is actually good since we are both casters and can combine much

[pearl storm]

That's crazy for a first lvl ability

[naive moss]

I had a character who I retired from a campaign as they weren’t fun anymore it was a changeling eloquence bard aberrant mind sorcerer

With the actor feat

[pearl storm]

Like again this kinda stuff is crazy good in a campaign where social stuff is big

[dark stream]

sounds fun though

[naive moss]

It was

I couldn’t roll under a 20 for persuasion checks

Or deception

And I had detect thoughts

[pearl storm]

Skill monkey?

[naive moss]

Sort of

[dark stream]

Rhea(my eldritch cleric/aberrant mind sorcerer) currently has +5 in both persuasion and deception

[naive moss]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/100944421/oenRiG

[pearl storm]

She ain't as good as Jo-Rah though

[naive moss]

Here’s the bard I was on about

[pearl storm]

Well interms of social stuff perhaps

BUT NOT IN OTHER STUFF

[dark stream]

she's supposed to be a walking horror trope with an eerie, unnerving presence to those around her
and then she manipulates both minds, and creates illusions and such

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-workout-lift-weights-heavy-gif-7622083

Rhea be like

And she is actually below average IQ

[dark stream]

I still find it funny, if you play a wizard and roll the unlucky number of 3 in a stat and put it in constitution
means you have negative 4 con mod, to the wizards hit dice of 1d6

[pearl storm]

Jo-Rah is literally good or atleast decent in everything

And only bad in social stuff

Even then it could be worse

[dark stream]

means you will start at 2 hit points, and likely still be at 2 when you hit 20

you will only get +1 if you roll a 5, and +2 if you roll a 6

[pearl storm]

The ultimate glass cannon

[dark stream]

makes sense that jo-rah has low charisma though

since it basically means how much others like or trust you

but you're a literal mad scientist dripping blood, smelling of iron

for Rhea, her mind is filled with unholy gospel, her mind is hardly even her own

so low intelligence

literally:

[dark stream]

eldritch cleric trait

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

don't need charisma is you just punch everything in the face

[pearl storm]

Yup and I actually wanted that anyways since he is supposed to be anti social

Guy literally is an exile

He is only around thugs and criminals who can supply him his goods for his expirements

[dark stream]

Rhea was always divinely attuned, but was exposed to eldritch truths beyond your wildest imagination

[pearl storm]

This is actually not because of her being an Eldritch Cleric but it's becauss Rhea is too dumb to have any thoughts at all

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

Holy shit that is a non existent social skill if I've seen one

[dark stream]

I personally like to see the different things more abstractly

like charisma doesn't necessarily mean how well you talk
but rather how likeable your character is, or how easy someone is to trust you

like for M31 too who got a high intelligence score- she "only" smart when it comes to her tinkering stuff

[pearl storm]

[pearl storm]

Literally what Rhea looks like while someone is trying to read her thoughts

[plush thicket]

he's not the party face, he's the tank and master tactician
and the only one with a moral compass

[pearl storm]

On the point of smell I also checked up on the smell of blood since Jo-Rah literally has bloodied bandages on him all the time. So I learned blood has an metallic iron kinda smell.

[dark stream]

I like to imagine if someone tries to peer into her mind, her own distorted image she saw in Venin's mirror
basically whispers dangerous truths to them from within her mind, which sends them wailing out

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

I wonder though what that smells like

I can't recall really knowing what Iron smells like

[dark stream]

I keep forgetting not all things is common knowledge

[pearl storm]

I mean that blood tastes like Iron is common knowledge

But no one really thinks about the smell

And the smell is often thought to be the rotting smell that actually comes from the wounds and not the blood

[dark stream]

you hear it all the time if something descripes blood being everywhere, or someone following the trail of blood
that "the smell of iron permeates the air" and such

[pearl storm]

Nope

Literally never heard that ever

[dark stream]

never read a book with blood in it?

[pearl storm]

Again

Blood doesn't come out of nowhere

Most of the times there are wounds and flesh too

So that kinda smell is always more in focus

[pearl storm]

Sa y did any of you look up the new subclasses, spells and feats from the new expansion to 5.5?

Something Faerun it was called I think

[hollow plume]

Iron does not have a smell. The reason you get a smell from metallic items like a coin is because the oil from your fingers is causing a chemical reaction with the metal and releases a new compound in the air

You're not smelling metal since pure alloys are odorless. You're smelling the metal being oxidized

[burnt storm]

Blood smells, but ya, the main smell is the oxidization, not the blood itself. The real smell is one of the smells you get from sausage, but more clear/clean.

I've been to a butcher's for deer, and I've smelled small pails of the stuff.

[hollow plume]

<@&1415565266556813373> please react with if you think you can make it for <t:1764446400:F>. If, somehow, Jeannie is still doing the subathon by then, we will cancel it

[plush thicket]

the subathon is capped

so she literally can't still be going by then

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[pearl storm]

@dark stream

Is this a good visor?

I just saw this while doing some other character

[crisp jackal]

For now i think i can but theres a chance i may be revovering from drinking the previous night/morning so im not gonna have a talkative brain

[plush thicket]

have you considered not drinking for once

[pearl storm]

He's Finnish

That's like asking a bird to stop flying

[plush thicket]

I'm British, we're just a drunk if not more so then the Finns

[dark stream]

not all birds fly

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

I predicted someone having to

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[pearl storm]

Since I'm on Expedition 33 again

I thought about it

What classes do you guys think the characters would be in DnD?

I thought about some certain characters before

Like Verso

I'd bet he'd be a Rogue

Monoco obviously is a Druid

I remember Aizo said that in the past in twitch chat too when Jeannie played the game

What would be Maelle? On her I struggle

I don't think she is quite the Fighter but something more

Maybe a Paladin

Or a Barbarian cause of her mechanics?

Gustave vertan would be an Artificier

Lune probably Sorcerer

Sciel I'm unsure

[dark stream]

maelle is a college of swords bard

I thought about making a grung character, who's a "primal spirit" barbarian
where the spirit itself is a giant toad

[pearl storm]

If we go subclass specific I'd put Sciel into the Misfortune Rogue one

@dark stream Here's my first try at your Owlin

[dark stream]

primal spirit barbarian, with (what's supposed to be) a giant red panda

[crisp jackal]

Yes. Im right now taking a break so my liver survives the streak starting on friday

[pearl storm]

She looks too silly to be frightening

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

The Panda looks so chill and she herself has no emotions on her face

Oh by the way

Mandatory Monoco

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/monoco-clair-obscur-clair-obscur-feet-gif-15259463220646609825

[dark stream]

I like my necromancer

[dark stream]

I'm imagining she probably actually looks more like this, but that form is hidden with magic

[pearl storm]

I like this one more

Also Aizo

This one

Is also again

[pearl storm]

^
I

You really have a problem

[pearl storm]

You know I imagine this then to be muuuuuch uglier then shown

Like rotting fingernails

[dark stream]

it likely would be

she's been dead for a while

[pearl storm]

Full of dirt

[dark stream]

but magic obscures her and makes her look how she did when she were alive

[pearl storm]

Actual parts of her body already decaying

[dark stream]

you can't really see it in the picture, but this one has full body of the "damaged" parts

which is basically the zombie body

[pearl storm]

Does she smell that way too or is she still gonna smell like a rotting corpse?

[dark stream]

anything hinting at her "undead form" is obscured by magic

[pearl storm]

Our whole talk about smelling blood and all has made me much aware of how importany smell actually is

[pearl storm]

I see

So how would it go dating someone?

[dark stream]

someone really powerful at detecting stuff, like high level clerics specifically, might perceive something is off
but what is obscuring her is also something immensily powerful, likely some unnamed lich, or maybe an old undead dragon or something
the "source" isn't specified in her backstory

only that she suddenly "awoke" from her grave, and her city of birth being in complete ruins

[pearl storm]

"Hey I haven't been fully honest. I never showed myself without my makeup"

Partner: "Oh hey that can't be bad. I kove you for who you are I don't care how you look"

unveils all her magic to reveal a literal rotting corpse

[dark stream]

"Life is a disease to be cured"

Sadako always had affinity for magic, and were supposed to join the magic academy
but as people kept dying around her, grandparents, friends, parents- she began to question "the divine is on our side, why not just bring them back?"
and thus she began to study the gods, the divine, and the power of clerics ability to mend and restore- but as she delved deeper into it, she also found its limitations-- that is when she stumpled upon necromancy, not yet thinking of this school as "evil" she had finally found a subject she believed could be her final focus.

however, when she the day of examination arrived, and she happily explained all her findings and studies to the teachers, she were immediately admonished, exiled, and executed for blasphemy and taboo--

an unknown amount of time later, something pulses within her, and she opens her eyes once more clawing and scratching at the earth above her, and finally making it out- she's in an unmarked grave outside the city
but the city itself looks ruined and long abandoned-- and thus, her journey to cure the disease that is "life" continues..

she's a wizard who studied ways to "cure" and "mend" and "revive" which then turned to "necromancy"
when she found how limited divine magic were in her eyes

[plush thicket]

a necromancer is just a cleric with bad timing

[dark stream]

I like the idea that she isn't "bad" per se, like you typically see necromancer and/or liches
she genuinely believes that necromancy is a better way than divine resurrection, and better able
to "cure" life, that hurts people so

[pearl storm]

The first half is new/expanded right?

[dark stream]

naww I mentioned this before in here too, I think

[pearl storm]

Yes but not the grandparents stuff

I think

[dark stream]

but it is "squished" if you will- I specifically don't go into super detailed stuff
because I like to keep a lot of my backstories "open" so the dm can play around too, if they wish

[pearl storm]

But kdbdbsjakanedjkzbwjaljaqjjwhshzkm?

[dark stream]

yup

is why I for one don't mention what is reanimating "her"

or how much time has passed

or what happened to her home city, that is now ruined, and possibly infested with other undead

or maybe it isn't

[pearl storm]

I am still pretty sure that first part of the text is new

Yea but back from that to what you are saying

Yea I learned about that

And heard about it

Your story shouldn't be too nothing giving interms of material

People you know, past connections perhaps, locations

But at some stuff maybe part for the DM to use the to fill in stuff

Like someone saved me but I don't know who it was

[dark stream]

yee, but as far as she knows, everyone she knew is dead and gone, an unknown amount of "long ago"

her spellbook is literally made from the skin of her old mentor

[pearl storm]

I think I kinda did a bad job on my story for Jo-Rah interms of what I gave Cannon

This is why I kinda try to retroactively fix some stuff by delving into it more and actually writing it out

[dark stream]

just 2 things

[pearl storm]

Cause I am still used to my old single player rp style where I just make an all around story and all in my head

[dark stream]

don't make too complicated/fleshed out, and don't "expect" the dm you make a full on focus on "your" backstory

[pearl storm]

I didn't specify any people or put on much I guess

[pearl storm]

Yea I know that

Book for yourself if you want

But for DM a good bit of material and important stuff that you want them to know

[dark stream]

it's okay to add like, "this friend I knew" or like "my mentor that I liked a lot" and such
so there's maybe a connection

[pearl storm]

Not how the whole day went by while he learned a spell

[dark stream]

a good backstory in my eyes doesn't "crave" attention, so it doesn't take away from what the dm wants, and they don't need to do anything with it
but it does give them something cool/interesting to work with

[pearl storm]

Yea for Jo-Rah I still well don't have too much connections simply because it's part of him being antisocial

Jo-Rah has had connections in the underground

Black market connections

[dark stream]

like, whoever or whatever causing her powerful reanimation isn't mentioned by name
only that "something" caused her to awaken from her grave

[pearl storm]

His former tribe

[dark stream]

sets the tone for who she is, and gives the dm something fun to work with- if they want

[pearl storm]

One reason I put in Haj Mota (the crazy big Lizardfolk) is to put in atleast one specific guy from his tribe

If Cannon wants he could work with my tribe without needing me to give names of people or such

[dark stream]

yeah, for that it's her mentor who know lives on, in the form of his/her skin being the binding for her spellbook

it's basically held together by the mentor's skin and bones

so macabre

[pearl storm]

He just has to tell me "you see this guy and identify him being one of your former tribesmen, the hunter called Jehlaal" like that

[pearl storm]

Well that you haven't mentioned here yet

[pearl storm]

Yea so dark and GRIM

[dark stream]

yup, because everyone she knew is loooong gone(as far as she know, at least)
but she still has one of them with her, as a spellbook

[pearl storm]

Like that would fit very well into a dark fantasy campaign

Maybe someone here is currently looking for players for a GRIM campaign

Hmmmmm

[naive moss]

A character I want to play is a lawful good necromancer

[dark stream]

[naive moss]

Basically they go around looking for people who’s in deaths door and basically asks if they can give the money to cover the funeral costs etc to allow the legal right to the body after it’s passed

[dark stream]

this necromancer I created isn't "evil" though others might think of her as such
she fully believes necromancy is more potent form of "resurrection" and that others are just in denial
since the divine doesn't include it

[naive moss]

😂😂😂

[pearl storm]

Sadako is just a Jo-Rah ripoff but made for Necromancy

[dark stream]

shortform of her background: she's experience peepos she cared for dying
and is upset/confused as to why the divine won't help, so she went to necromancy
to do it herself

follow to that, the magic academy finds out, deems her taboo practices dangerous and executes her
later she awakens from her grave, and finds the city in complete ruins and long abandonded/forgotten

(yes, she's dead)

[pearl storm]

Hmmm I feel like I heard this kinda thing before

Shortform Jo-Rah

Very sentimental and loves living beings but expiriences great pity for their frailty and easly dying

Found himself as kid in battlefield that was already over with everyone just being dead there
One of the fighters who is on yhe brink of death confuses him for an enemy and tries to kill him

He instinctly uses Sangromancy to kill him

He goes and learns Sangromancy a bit

His tribe finds out about his Sangromancy and exiles him for his vile magic

He is now looking to find the cure for life, the secrets of Lifeforce manipulation within Sangromancy

Botchered up shortfrom

[dark stream]

"life is a disease to be cured"

jo-rah wants to make peepos live forever
sadako wants to make peepos unlive forever

jo-rah is basically "life must be more powerful than this, let me study a way"
sadako is basically "life is weak, and fragile- in death there is strength"

[pearl storm]

Basically

I did mention that the first time you put up her backstory

Jo-Rah and her are similar but go through different ways and views on what is the solution

Jo-Rah views Necromancy as just animating dead and an too late try to fix something

He wants to be the prevention

[dark stream]

is jo-rah's spellbook constantly just a little bit soggy with old blood and perhaps crusty with dried blood?

[pearl storm]

Necromancy comes too late

[dark stream]

necromancy can't be too late- the divine can
hence necromancy better

[pearl storm]

Nah everything in there is written with blood

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

[dark stream]

sadako's spellbook is basically made entirely of another hooman

[pearl storm]

No need for ink when you got your natural ink roght there

[dark stream]

"hooman" I say, because the person isn't specified, but it's a humanoid at least

[pearl storm]

Imagine having to wait for something to be dead to then be able to "help"

[dark stream]

I mean, she can.. accelerate, the process

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/stupidhooman-stupidhuman-angrycat-gif-5074974

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

does part of the book include this individual's mouth?

[dark stream]

old sickly peepo who can barely walk anymore?
deds it
reanimates them
there, now they're strong and powerful again

[dark stream]

now it does

[plush thicket]

you can cast speak with dead on it then

[dark stream]

hm

I believe speak with dead specifies that the subject's body cannot be too destroyed

[plush thicket]

nope, just says corpse (not undead) and has a mouth

[dark stream]