Dungeons and Dragons

[dark stream]

https://tenor.com/view/tkthao219-bubududu-panda-gif-23132194

[pearl storm]

Aizo

I HAD THE IDEA IN MY DREAM

I had an epic dream

All around pretty cool dreams but the last one was great

Ok listen here

Jujutsu Kaisen

Satoru Gojo and Suguru Geto as DnD characters

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-8932131737123141805

In my dream they fought against each other

They had their battle in the humble (and shitty) convenience store I work

Both had Green Flame Blade pulled out in the beginning and fought with melee and swords

But then Geto launched his Green Flame Blade into Gojo's chest directly and made him full on burn in a big green fire

Only for him to stand up since that stuff doesn't hurt him at all cause of his regeneration

And that's the turning point where they both battled using their Jujutsu Kaisen abilities

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-absolute-cinema-gif-8932131737123141805

[hollow plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QVogPocYQ0o?si=kDl98RS9hESj211y

[plush thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[plush thicket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/eumUx4EiY3w?si=IZc9te0mb_Mhnh8p

[dark stream]

liam is probably my favourite critical role member

orym was totally part of why that decision became final- but he does his characters so well

[pearl storm]

When can this be us?

[plush thicket]

never

I don't like being touched

[dark stream]

https://tenor.com/view/liam-obrien-love-heart-critical-role-critters-gif-13727361

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-5711781834381685182

[pearl storm]

Percy was uhm... yea he was something...

I'm excited to see the Homeless Wizard though

Crititkal Role stole from Yakuza Like a Dragon

[potent crypt]

looking at hide armor it says 12+ dex mod (max 2)

does that mean if my dex mod is 4 i only get 2?

like total of 14ac

[pearl storm]

Did you know hide armor is the best armor for Rogues?

[potent crypt]

hearing cannon say that is why i'm looking at it

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

OH MY GOD AHAHAHHAHA

You didn't get it did you?

[plush thicket]

you also didn't get it until I explained it

[potent crypt]

so is not good?

[plush thicket]

no

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-lie-kaguya-kaguya-sama-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-gif-18405690

[plush thicket]

Rogues have to sneak all the time
another word for sneaking is hiding
therefore Hide armour is the best

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/deskflip-adventure-time-angry-irritated-frustrated-gif-6555900716915588715

is a pun

[plush thicket]

yes

[potent crypt]

studded leather best then?

[plush thicket]

yee

[potent crypt]

was that among the things we could buy?

[plush thicket]

I would have thought so

[dark stream]

yup ! some armour types have higher base, but lower total bonus

[potent crypt]

yup i see it on the list atleast

as a rogue i have no need for a long sword right?

[dark stream]

Val'kira uses a "chain shirt" medium armour, which has a base of 13, + up to 2 from dex bonus

[pearl storm]

That's false

[potent crypt]

maybe i can sell the long sword i stole to get studded leather armor for 20GP instead of 45GP

since longswords cost 15GP

[pearl storm]

Imagine needing armor

This post was made by true Lizardfolk patriots

[dark stream]

I mean, it sure came in handy versus the bugbear we fought

[potent crypt]

my monk with no armor almost died due to lack of it >.<

[dark stream]

monks have natural armour as well, as part of them being monks
what's your reaper's ac?

[potent crypt]

17

[dark stream]

my fighter's ac is only okay since she's holding a shield

[dark stream]

yeah, that's not bad

same as my fighters

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/argonian-battle-lizard-elder-scrolls-gif-21612589

[potent crypt]

but no actual armor to protect me when i take the hit

[dark stream]

very decent ac for a melee fighter who isn't a specialized "tank"

[pearl storm]

That's cause he wasn't a Lizard

[potent crypt]

also if i can buy the studded armor then liger will have 16ac and when lv.8 i'll get 17ac

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

!4 ac from nothing

If I had better dexterity I would be 17 or 18 from lvl 1

[potent crypt]

oh i could sell my leather armor as well maybe i could get studded for 10GP then

[dark stream]

you mean 13 the rest is from dexterity

monks even while wearing no armour at all- get ac equal to 10, plus both dex and wisdom

similar to how barbarians get the same, but with constitution instead of wisdom

while unarmoured

[pearl storm]

If Jo-Rah was a class specialized for dexterity he would have17 ac from lvl 1 since my highest roll wouldn't be put into Int but Dex instead

[potent crypt]

is there any downsides to studded armor?

[dark stream]

and if you were a tortle, you could have 10 dexterity, and still have 17ac

[dark stream]

no

[pearl storm]

Tortle are ASS

[dark stream]

there's no general downsides to any "light armour" except it's low ac, compared to medium/heavy

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

but if you include the dexterity bonus, it matches up pretty much anyway

[potent crypt]

yeah dex makes light armor better the medium for me

now i just need to ask justin if i can sell my longsword and leather armor and buy the studded armor for 10GP

[dark stream]

I wanted val'kira to not wear an actual plate since it wouldn't fit her character-
so "chain shirt" was perfect, which is 13+dex(up to 2)

but she's also using a shield, so it makes up to 17ac with the shield

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

if I solely wanted to create the strongest character and ignore personality and what I intended
I'd give her heavy armour so she starts with 18ac, and a longsword, since it's stronger than a spear

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/valkyrie-for-honor-i-dont-speak-japanese-japanese-gif-21708172

[dark stream]

but it's not what I wanted to make

I wanted a "valkyrie" character

[pearl storm]

Why is her Dex so low?

[dark stream]

so lighter armour and a spear + shield

[pearl storm]

Also Aizo

[dark stream]

her dexterity is 16- but chain shirt only benefits from maximum +2

as do all medium armour

[pearl storm]

Ruined background doesn't even make sense for Kira

Outlander would have been a better fit

[potent crypt]

u can make ur own definition of what ruined means

[pearl storm]

You little shitling only took it for the feat didn't you

[dark stream]

naw- she were a warrior princess, with a future as the leader of a grand tribe
now she has nothing but her spear in a big unknown world

[potent crypt]

lost in a game of dice now i'm ruined

[dark stream]

plus her tribe is hunting her

[potent crypt]

but why?

[dark stream]

because their would-be future leader left them without

[potent crypt]

wait she just left?

[dark stream]

yup

she grew tired of their sheltered and close-minded nature

[potent crypt]

understandable

[dark stream]

and now she struggles with culture shock, pretty much

the tribe weren't "savage" but it was by no means "civilized"

[potent crypt]

so basicaly vikings

we just like fighting

[dark stream]

think amazonian warrior-women in the rainforest, or something

[plush thicket]

mix between Vikings and Amazonians

[dark stream]

yee

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

"where" weren't really specified in her backstory

[plush thicket]

I have a plan for where you're from

[dark stream]

[plush thicket]

Majora, stop please
Aizo has made a character choice, I am ok with that choice
that's the end of it

[pearl storm]

That ain't ruined that's just leaving on your own

[potent crypt]

as i said u can define it urself shouldn't let the descriptions shackle u to much

[pearl storm]

Bad DM Imma post you on DnD horror stories

Oops sorry for the ping

Forgot to turn off

[potent crypt]

i view background more as a tool for making my chars then their actual background since i make that myself

[dark stream]

majo trying to create other's characters for them

I like having the world, and then having nothing

[potent crypt]

ofc i do try to make it line up if i can but if another helps me make the char i want more then i pick that one

[pearl storm]

I'm calling out what I feel like is in your optimizer brain

All in jest though

[dark stream]

yup ! alignment, background, and personality are all things you don't "need" to write down

[pearl storm]

[dark stream]

she literally has intentionally worse armour than she could have, plus a worse weapon than she could have
I'm also not intending to do the typical "sentinel-polearm master" combo, that powergamers do

I like making strong characters- but I am nowhere near that

[potent crypt]

i'm gonna make my dullahan later probably and i might need some feats to make it work

[dark stream]

that character sounds interesting

[potent crypt]

after all i will be headless so need to make sure i can communicate somehow

[dark stream]

you could do that, or make telepathic speech and sight be part of your backstory, as part of the curse that separated your head(if the dm allows it)
or, you could straight up just not have a voice, and only limited sight

[potent crypt]

i can multiclass into great old one warlock so i can use telpathy with anyone regardless if i speak the language

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

did you see I freed the doggos in the last session?

though a 4th one impaled itself on my spear

[potent crypt]

i did

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/adeus-volte-sempre-gif-13566867734332124302

[pearl storm]

I mean you still optimize while sticking to a theme

[potent crypt]

i'm thinking i maybe wanna multiclass warlock for my dullahan just to have some spells to use

[pearl storm]

Optimizing Jo-Rah as a Wizard but I don't go and lvl dip into Fighter to get armor and a shield or choose spells that don't fit his theme of being a Sangromancer

[dark stream]

yee

[dark stream]

is the difference between making your character well, versus simply picking what's "best"

[pearl storm]

By the way Ruined actually fits perfectly for my Disembodied Haunted Sorcerer

Since his story is that core that he had a great city where he lived with his wife and son happily

All well

[dark stream]

you could make yourself a fighter, and go eldritch knight subclass- then you wouldn't have to multiclass
or simply stick to paladin as you originally said- since paladins also have spells

[pearl storm]

And then he lost it all

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

That's how ruined origin story should be in theme

[potent crypt]

Oh right i was still gonna be paladin Just forgot they had spells

[pearl storm]

Yea so tell me zhe truth did you really pick Ruined cause you thought it was the mosz fitting story wise

[dark stream]

yup

[pearl storm]

https://youtu.be/Jvjb77yTwOo?si=yl-RooAOghjJF0_g

[dark stream]

they still half casters

like rangers and artificers

[pearl storm]

Alright then you passed

Cause I saw a looot of optimizers always picking ruined for builds

[pearl storm]

Oh yea watch it

Love the guy

[dark stream]

I considered making Rhea ruined, since it fit her story- but she's "literally" a lapsed inquisitor
so obviously that background fits her better

[pearl storm]

He is great

[dark stream]

[potent crypt]

i'll take a look at fighter cuz i don't think a holy theme fits what i want for the char

[dark stream]

not all warriors of a church is necessarily paladins- fighters can also be "holy"
just without magic or divine influence

just like not all "priests" in dnd, are "clerics"

[potent crypt]

true

[dark stream]

but obviously if you want some spells, it limits you to those who can

but eldritch fighter do learn some spells, but is only 1/3 caster, similar to your arcane trickster

[potent crypt]

reading the tenets of devotion char might not fit paladin after all

[dark stream]

I was thinking of making a pestilence paladin(grim hollow subclass)

[pearl storm]

I mean Paladins aren't homy anymore

Even if it is their stigma

There are a good bunch of Paladin subclasses that are the whole opposite of the stigma

[dark stream]

https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Paladin:_Oath_of_Pestilence

pestilence tenets:

[potent crypt]

[dark stream]

I think if I were to do complete power-gaming, I'd make an inquisitor cleric

[pearl storm]

Yea or the one of vengeance

[dark stream]

they feel, silly good

[plush thicket]

paladins were never horny

that is bards

paladins were always lawful stupid

[pearl storm]

https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Paladin:_Oath_of_Zeal

[dark stream]

I think one could make a fun character with the parasite warlock subclass

make them act like "something trying to be human"

[potent crypt]

oath of vengeance

[pearl storm]

https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/paladin:vengeance

[potent crypt]

wanting revenge against who ever cursed me

[pearl storm]

I typoed homy and you made horny out of it Cannon

Self report Cannon

[plush thicket]

not really, it's a common stereotype for charisma based characters

[dark stream]

m = rn, everyone knows this- simple fact of life

[potent crypt]

i could still multiclass into warlock for the benefit of awakened mind and the spells that come with being a warlock

[dark stream]

[potent crypt]

could have it as a thing where my char prays for aid and the great old one answers

[dark stream]

Rhea multiclassed in aberrant mind sorcerer for the theme of the added psychic abilities
the aberrant mind subclass also comes with telepathic speech

[subtle imp]

Jeannie is Live

[dark stream]

though she will mainly be cleric, and only get more sorcerer levels much later

[potent crypt]

btw how does that work if i'm 2 classes that can cast spells how do i determine which class casts the spell?

[dark stream]

ending should be 12 cleric, 8 sorcerer
though if we go by max being lv16- she'd be 11 cleric, 5 sorcerer

[potent crypt]

like warlock and paladin

[dark stream]

you use the modifier of the class' spell

but it works out as a warlock/paladin, since both charisma

[potent crypt]

great

but was wondering since warlocks casts their spells at the highest level will i be able to do that?

[dark stream]

the highest level "you can"

but warlocks don't have spell slots

they have "pact slots"

[potent crypt]

i see

anyway i think i have a plan class wise

[dark stream]

nevermind that's only for bg3

[potent crypt]

will look into stuff more later

[dark stream]

but either way, you get more spell slots as a paladin, so don't worry about it

[pearl storm]

You write down how many spell slots of this class you gave and how many of the other

Then whever you cast a spell you specify which slot you wanna use

[plush thicket]

depends on which two classes

[plush thicket]

not even close

[dark stream]

warlock/paladin, in this case I believe

paladin first

[pearl storm]

Well I tried

I always wanted to ask that auestion here too but never did

So wouldn't know the actual mechanics

[dark stream]

if you multiclass casters, you just act, in terms of magic and spell slots
as if you were that class, not multiclassed- but you never add more spell slots

as far as I understood it

at least for multiclassing two full casters, like I did Rhea

but it also sets me back a level, in terms of learning spells, even if I keep the full level of spell slots

[plush thicket]

for two full classes
add the levels for both classes together and act as if you are that level for your spell slots

[dark stream]

I'll end up with all the spell slots of a lv20 caster
but in terms of power level, I'll never go beyond a 12th level cleric

[plush thicket]

but you can only use spells up to the max level of each class individually

[dark stream]

yup !

[pearl storm]

Complicated

[dark stream]

not really, but might seem so at first

[pearl storm]

Al

So

I am a Sorcerer and Wizard

I end up staying in Sorcerer

I am in total kvl 12 with 6 lvls in both classes

I just act like I am a lvl 12 Sorcerer?

[dark stream]

I don't know if this helps at all- but say we were level 20
I'd have all the number of spell slots of a regular 20th level full caster

however, since my classes are 12cleric, 8sorcerer- the spells I can cast
amounts to what a 12th level cleric or 8th level sorcerer could cast
I just have more spell slots to cast these spells with, since my total level is higher

[dark stream]

no

[potent crypt]

u have the spell slots and such of a lv.12 sorc but can only cast as if lv.6 yes?

[dark stream]

correct

[potent crypt]

[pearl storm]

Why

[dark stream]

my 20th level cleric/sorcer that is 12 cleric, 8 sorcerer- has all the spell slots of a 20th level full caster
but since my classes are lower(12 cleric, the level of cleric spells I can cast is at most 6th level

though you can still upcast

or 4th level of sorcerer spells

[pearl storm]

I can still cast spells from the other class right?

[dark stream]

yup !

[potent crypt]

cuz ur only a lv.6 sorc/wizard but ur a lv.12 char

[dark stream]

the spell level just cannot exceed the level of the class

[pearl storm]

So you get combined spell slots?

[dark stream]

like right now, Rhea is level 2- but her classes "cleric/sorcerer" are both lv1

[dark stream]

at least for full casters

yes

not as in twice as many, but like, as per your character level

[pearl storm]

So theoritically not more spells slots

[dark stream]

say I'm a 8th level cleric- I'd have a total of 4 1st lv spells, 3 2nd level spells, 3 third level spells, and 2 4th level spells

[pearl storm]

Just the spells slots of your combined lvl in one of the classes

[dark stream]

and I could cast up to 4th level cleric spells

now if I multiclassed instead-

I'm 4th level cleric, and 4th level sorcerer

my total level is still 8, so I'd have the same total of 4 1st lv spells, 3 2nd level spells, 3 third level spells, and 2 4th level spells

as I did

but I can at most cast up to 2nd level spells from each class

though I still have the full amount of spell slots

as far as I understand, you can still upcast spells above the limit though, though cannon can correct me on that

like even if I can only cast 2nd level spells of each class, I do have 4th level spell slots, so I can upcast using 4th level spell slots

[pearl storm]

So the normal amount of a lvl 8 Cleric?

[dark stream]

of an 8th level full caster, yes

[plush thicket]

you would have the spell slots of a 12th level sorcerer
but you can only cast the spells that a 6th level sorcerer could cast

[pearl storm]

Ok got it

Thank youuu

[pearl storm]

Cannon

Did you play a Hexblade Warlock or DMed one or played alongside party members who were a Hexblade?

[plush thicket]

no

[pearl storm]

Wow

Well shit

I hoped to ask you how the rp stuff goes on Hexblades with the Sword Shadowfell patron

Made Pythor from Ninjago

[dark stream]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man-armor-suits-mark-1-equip-gif-16642662175272309965

[pearl storm]

nOt FeMiNiNe Or BuLkY eNoUgH

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

he understands

[dark stream]

this one is bulky enough, but not feminine enough

but yes, my mental image of M31 is basically different renditions of either female iron man, or samus' suits

or something

[pearl storm]

So....

I ask you

[dark stream]

the normal mode is fine as literally just this one

[pearl storm]

Do you want her to be skinny but upper shoulders big?

[pearl storm]

I made that one

[dark stream]

the infiltrator mode is fine as almost a copy of samus' suit or female ironmans suit, but more agile focus
it's the guardian form that's an issue

[pearl storm]

It's better than that image simply by virtue of not being AI

[pearl storm]

Explain in detail then how the proportions should be

[dark stream]

and the guardian form is her "main" focus

[pearl storm]

I am absolutely not giving up on making her

[dark stream]

these two were the first renditions I tried making of her guardian form-
the left one is too "halo/high tech" the right one somewhat fits the bill in it looking like scrap metal put together and cleaned around a magical power source- however, the face optics needs to be more visor-like, and she needs to have an actual "magical power-source" in her chest(think literal ironman)

and before you ask, no I don't particularly like either of these images

but the right one fits the proportions I was thinking

mind you, her guardian form is also supposed to be between 7ft and 8ft tall

[dark stream]

also, yes, the gloves needs to "pop"

because her gauntlets are specifically considered a weapon, called "thunder gauntlets"

[dark stream]

also also

the point is for her(this image is the "actual her") to be inside of an "arcane armour/power armour)
that'll enhance her various abilities, both power-wise and defensively-

but notably, the "guardian" form, is thunder-based

(not lightning, "thunder"-- so like, loud sounds and/or dangerous vibrations powerful enough to shatter stuff)

the infiltator form is lightning-based, and actually has a "node" that can shoot lightning at range
so that one is practically just samus or ironman-

but it's the guardian form that's her main focus, and the one I want an image of

[pearl storm]

I AM THE HEROFORGE DESIGNER NUMBER 1

I WILL DO IT

AND THEN I WILL CHARGE YOU A MILLION BUCKS TO USE THE IMAGE

[dark stream]

keep in mind

I don't settle for "okay"

if it's not "perfect" in my mind, it's not good at all

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/mikonay-gif-8380132108161814674

I'll still do it

[dark stream]

for colours- these images matches kind of the "brown-brass" colouring I'm imagining for her
and the arcane power source itself, should be a pale blue

more brass than brown, but still

[pearl storm]

First prototype

@dark stream

Which chest power would you rather have? Circle im the middle or right booba?

[dark stream]

middle is where the core is supposed to be

but kindly change the legs or recolour it so it doesn't look like underwear

also waist doesn't need to be that slim at all

[pearl storm]

Well I had to make her literally One Piece women shaped cause you kept criticizing her not being feminine enough

[dark stream]

because you made her not "feminine" at all, or just gave her breasts

[dark stream]

this is roughly the level of femininity I'm envisioning

[pearl storm]

I GAVE HER A FUCKING HOURGLASS FIGURE

[pearl storm]

Not even slightly feminine like that just looks like robots

Made a few changes on body and on a bit of colouring

@dark stream

[dark stream]

better

not a fan of the pauldron, but I know how limited heroforge is

if just heroforge had a better robot/mech-suit head

[pearl storm]

I picked them cause I thought you wanted that circle look to show where the thunder like sound comes from

[dark stream]

the thunder is specifically from the gauntlets themselves, though the main core might help in powering them

[pearl storm]

I can change them quickly

[dark stream]

are there any gloves with like, wires and such?

this however, is close to a body I could actually use

maybe with some wired gloves, and either no pauldrons, or flatter ones

[pearl storm]

Kinda yea

@dark stream

[plush thicket]

you know you don't have to ping her every time right?

[pearl storm]

I know but I want an answer fast since it's 6:30 in the morning for me

How exactly you want the wires to be you have to decide

[burnt storm]

If you have gauntlets which work as speakers via an electric process (rather than air pockets, or magical resonance) you should be able to charge them to make them slightly magnetic.

[pearl storm]

If you even want that energy thing there too

[burnt storm]

Because a speaker is an electromagnet which constantly reverses polarity to generate a wave. You can just have it not reverse polarity.

[dark stream]

this one isn't bad- still not a fan of the head though
but I don't think heroforge has any other robot/mech heads

also, rest of the gauntlets should still be "brass"
it's a full-body armoured suit after all

[plush thicket]

it doesn't

the sci-fi and modern section is kinda crap in general

[dark stream]

what powers it is some magi-tech stuff, whatever dms deem is what powers warforged originally

basically a mix of technology trying to mimic magic

[pearl storm]

?

Gauntlets?

Or this for helmet?

[burnt storm]

If you can use magic as a power source... Sheeeeesh.

[pearl storm]

Here the gauntlets

[dark stream]

welcome to dnd- but it's technically not "magic"
artificers use technology to mimic "magic"

[dark stream]

not a fan of the helmets still- the visor is better
but I feel like the head is too round- also, I know there's no like, antenna in heroforge

[pearl storm]

more human

[burnt storm]

He looks like he's asking a question.

[dark stream]

yeah, but the guardian's face is largely made of armoured "glass"

[burnt storm]

If power is no obstacle, it makes the most sense to fire projectiles with a charge attached, like a taser or:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lix-vr_AF38&t=475s

[pearl storm]

Gundam maybe?

[dark stream]

the infiltrator model actually does that- and artificer has a cantrip that does exactly that

https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/spell:lightning-lure

and the infiltrator model can straight up fire electrical beams/charges

[burnt storm]

So straight to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBVlL0FNbSE&t=1285s

[pearl storm]

Should it be like a visor or full blue face?

Like glass face?

[dark stream]

visor

[dark stream]

she has become a kendo practicioner

[plush thicket]

gotta protect the face when dangerous objects are nearby

[pearl storm]

OK WHAT ABOUT THIS????

[dark stream]

no good, don't like the helmets- but the body is there

ish

[plush thicket]

thing is, I don't even know if the paid version has better options

I think their seclection is just bad

[pearl storm]

My last attempt

[dark stream]

visor on this one isn't bad- but I don't want the wing accessory

[pearl storm]

AIZO

[dark stream]

no good

[pearl storm]

Well

I think I tried about everything

I take the Win and go out with making the best M31

[plush thicket]

your "win" only exists because no one else cares enough to try

[pearl storm]

If you care enough to shit on it it's enough

[plush thicket]

I care enough to make fun of you, there's a difference

[pearl storm]

Ooh I think you might like this the most @dark stream

[dark stream]

I know this sounds weird, but the helm looks too much like a "helm"

when M31 dons her arcane armour, it doesn't mean she physically puts on an armour
she's a warforged, so her armour is literaly a part of her being, and being an artificer armourer further incentivizes that
since the armourer's special feature "arcane armour" let's her done it as an action in combination with the warforged thing

so basically when she "dons" her armour, think like some ironman visual, in basically her "becoming" the new form
though "she" is still inside

the visor is both a "faceplate" but it's also literally her eyes

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/american-dad-stan-smith-table-flip-mad-angry-gif-17109109335853749592

https://www.heroforge.com/load_config%3D530792722/

Well anyways I made you a model

Which you couldn't do and put on heroforge instead of adimittibg to being to cough couch lazy cough

[dark stream]

good job

[pearl storm]

I expect 400 bucks by the end of tomorrow to compensate for a full night of no sleep

[pearl storm]

Try the rest out yourself

You can fine tune stuff to your liking now

[dark stream]

I don't know what you mean, it's the middle of the day

[pearl storm]

M31 is now my creation

I made her!

SHE'S ALIVE

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-fisher-side-hustle-hahaha-mad-scientist-gif-23568752

I might also rebrand this model into 10 different enemy types to use as a DM in the future since I found a few really cool combinations that have a fully different feeling then what you wanted

[pearl storm]

Interms of comour and different accesoires and armor

[dark stream]

fun fact- in her backstory, she were hired to create this futuristic unit for [person x]
and was paid an extreme amount, but then while she were building them- she were compromised, and framed
and the prototype units still being tested and tuned was stolen- fast-forward to when the party finds M31 in the sewers
she wakes up to the sound of explosions, and she's left with nothing but the suit with the most progress done on it
them being unable to remove it from her, since it magically cannot be removed

so yeah

somewhere out there, a bunch of prototype suits is being used for "something"

up to justin if he wants to use that, though

[pearl storm]

Justin if you ever want to then hit me up and I make more variations of this model

[pearl storm]

Justin and Cannon, do you have a site or a tool you use to make homebrew monster's or do you just take a player Character sheet?

[hollow plume]

i dont use monster sheets

........a lot

you can easily find monsters with a google search, if it fits it fits

[plush thicket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oL975WaM1PA?si=S5gMzfW70je92vGa

[pearl storm]

Finished my homebrew Monster

I would love to ask one of you to review it byt that wouldn't make sense considering I wanna use it against you at the opportunity of me DMing

[plush thicket]

<@&1415565361222258760> <@&1415565420974309408>
beeg update, I know I should have done this a while ago but things have been interesting

long story short, I had to go and get a minor surgery around the same time I was starting University again.
My recovery has had some complications and has been really slow (but I am getting there)
with that in mind, assuming I stay on my current trajectory, I would like to start up sessions again in the new year
BUT
when sessions do start up I'll still be taking things slowly so sessions will likely be once every two weeks for each party (so I'm running once a week instead of twice)
That part is subject to change and will depend on how well I'm doing but I will try to be more communicative about my situation

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-god-its-happening-ok-stay-calm-the-office-gif-6091046

https://tenor.com/view/everybodystaycalm-staycalm-stay-calm-everybody-gif-13261191

[slow stone]

alright, glad to hear you're recovering. looking forward to playing again. fee lfree to take your time

[pearl storm]

Also it's all right buddy. Revover and enjoy some rest even if you don't feel nice. Cuddle with the kitties and chill

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-laugh-greengoblin-greengoblinlaugh-gif-25996189

[dark stream]

health always come first

[pearl storm]

You have no speaking you get to be DMed by him already and will have him DM two campaigns to you

[pearl storm]

Not liking my version I sent you

[dark stream]

no

it's too warlock'y

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-giggle-frozen-gif-19621209

[dark stream]

a cleric's "god" is not a patron like the warlock has
and a cleric's "god" doesn't necessarily care about that specific cleric
beyond simply expecting them to spread their word and embody their domain

unles

that specific cleric is a "chosen" cleric

which xopah was becoming

but Rhea is not

[pearl storm]

Atleast I made a better Ireth design

And a M31 Battle Mode

[dark stream]

[timid siren]

Very pike coded

[dark stream]

still want to play her sometime, redemption paladin seems fun

[timid siren]

they can be

[pearl storm]

OI

The second one isn't mine

The shoes are also ugly man

[dark stream]

sounds like a you problem

[pearl storm]

I hate the damn combat heels

[timid siren]

I remember the calamity mini-series that critical role did had one and he was cool

[pearl storm]

LET WOMEN HAVE NORMAL SHOES

But also

@timid siren welcome into our cult

[dark stream]

my idea with her is to be a pacifist- though she'd still fight undead and demons and such
but come lv17+(I think) she can reach a whopping +21 to persuasion

I want her to convince enemies to surrender or stand down

and then she's built as a tank who via redemption skills, can absorb damage from others too

[pearl storm]

Would you play Ireth when my campaign starts?

[timid siren]

Same vibes as Zerxes

[dark stream]

I don't think a talker is a good start for a new dm

Rhea would be an especially ill fit

something simpler is better for a new dm, so there's not to many complicated things

[pearl storm]

Wow you'd treat me like a baby?

You have no idea what I plan to achieve

[dark stream]

it's not about what you're planning, it's whether you have experience with wrangling a story about it's characters
and not simply following a script

which takes time to learn

[pearl storm]

Now you're accusing me of only being able to follow a scrips and not be able to handle from the top actions?

[dark stream]

[timid siren]

This is one of my gods in my dnd world

[dark stream]

I made this one as a necromancy school wizard

that could be fun

[pearl storm]

Mods ban Aizo for insulting me like that

[timid siren]

she is a mod though

[pearl storm]

He looks cool but not GOD enough to me

[dark stream]

as part of her backstory, she's supposed to be dead herself, returned to "unlife"
through some unknown force/magic

also her mindset, is that "undeath" is superior to "life"

since there's no pain and all such things

[timid siren]

All gods in my world have white pupils in their eyes minus three the gods

[dark stream]

my eldritch cleric

[timid siren]

LOL

[dark stream]

she's currently level 2, but I multiclassed the 2nd level into aberrant mind sorcerer

[plush thicket]

My hooman fighter

[dark stream]

I like the wheel shield

[pearl storm]

Is this Yaromir

[timid siren]

Yar

[plush thicket]

yes

[pearl storm]

Oh yea Draco I sent you the creature

[pearl storm]

He cool

[pearl storm]

Oddly friendly looking

Like even in that stance his face looks good hearted

[plush thicket]

just a cool 20 AC and 78 HP at level 6

[pearl storm]

Damn 20 AC

Currently looking through the sheet

Wow both Strenght and Constitution 18

[dark stream]

yee, higher health than M31

[pearl storm]

Good luck or put in ABSI?

[plush thicket]

I rolled

[pearl storm]

Wow

Ph

[plush thicket]

but I did end up with a 4

[pearl storm]

Charisma is dog shit thoigh

[plush thicket]

so I got both ends of the spectrum

[pearl storm]

Hahahahahaha

He is as charismatic as a plant photosyzing

[dark stream]

puts enhanced defense on yaromir's armour, and makes his shield into a repulsion shield
now you have 22 ac

[plush thicket]

gonna be honest, don't think he needs it

[plush thicket]

remember that I did get a +2 to str and +1 to con through race and feat

[pearl storm]

Ah that seems more senseful then

[plush thicket]

yeah my rolls were like 17, 16, 11, 10, 12, 4 or something like that

[pearl storm]

If I had just one number better rolled I could have had 18 con too instead of 17

Just that 1 number for that bigger modifier

[plush thicket]

so far he hasn't gone below half hp and we've had some big fights XD

[dark stream]

the bulwark trait "weather the storm" (?) is really good

[plush thicket]

yee

he also just hasn't taken that many hits so far

it's almost like Justin knows that hitting the meat slab isn't the most effective tactic XD

[pearl storm]

Found the screenshot of my rolls

Pretty lucky there

More lucky then Aizo atleast

-3 at strenght

[plush thicket]

next feat I'm planning on is Mobile

after that, not sure

there are some good options

[timid siren]

These are the rest of the Good gods in my world

[pearl storm]

Oh yea Mobile is pretty cool feat

[dark stream]

"bearbeitet"

[dark stream]

the same would be "bearbejdet" in danish

[timid siren]

And these are some of the evil gods

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-germany-german-national-pengu-gif-12825422301596339887

[pearl storm]

Varkaleth

I like the Spider ones design

[dark stream]

xopah (my life cleric)'s god was ilmater, which is basically just an old man, visually
but he's the "god of martyrs"

he's my favourite of the regular pantheon

for my eldritch cleric, her "god" is called "Venin" thoug hshe's actually an arch demon

venin governs the domains of "lies, illusion, and insanity"

😇

[plush thicket]

I've tried to do the whole homebrew world creation thing before

just never got very far

[dark stream]

I'm always fascinated with homebrew stuff- joining it can just be dangerous
with the wrong peepos

[pearl storm]

Yea setting a whole world up is waaaaay too much I wanna do for my fun hobby

That's the kinda thing I do for my passion projects when I write on my Manga's

[plush thicket]

I do got a bunch of writing projects I want to get done at some point

[dark stream]

pictures of ilmater and/or avatars of him

the black and white one, he's the old guy in the back

[dark stream]

for "titles"

• The Crying God
• The Broken God
• The Lord on the Rack
• The One Who Endures
• The Rack-Broken Lord
• Our Martyred Father

he looks like that, but he's supposed to be one of, if not "the" physically toughest god, among the gods of his "tier"

tenets of the ilmatari faith

• "Help all who hurt, no matter who they are."
• "The truly holy take on the suffering of others."
• "If you suffer in his name, Ilmater is there to support you."
• "Stick to your cause if it is right, whatever the pain or peril."
• "There is no shame in a meaningful death."
• "Allow no injustice to go unchallenged."
• "Emphasize the spiritual nature of life over the existence of the material body."

can you tell I like ilmater?

[timid siren]

If it makes you feel ant better for the longest time I couldn't think of a name for my world till the last two weeks I believe

[plush thicket]

it's not so much the world name tbh

it's the other bits

like the map

and the lore

I generally need a jumping off point

[timid siren]

Lore is easy for me

[pearl storm]

Same

3 big pieces I wanna do

[dark stream]

I'd assume lore and intrique is the difficult parts

like what is going on politically, what happened in the past
what is the connection between different areas- what's the flora and fauna like?
is the world dangerous, at war or at peace?

all such things

in grim hollow, there's a subfaction called "the inquisition" who on behalf of some king, cruelly hunts magic users
basically witch hunts- but like, I think it could be cool to have a campaign based around that- where all the players are inquisitors in that faction
and has to hunt "evil magic users" in a world, where most tries to hide any magical ability and such

[timid siren]

On one of the continents in my world it's literally hell because there's a tear to the hells and there's only one safe haven for the people living there

[dark stream]

if I were to make a campaign, it'd probably be that

[timid siren]

Also monks are rare in my world

Doesn't mean you can't play a monk, but if you do people will be intrigued with your character

[dark stream]

I like that a lot

makes for good rp too

[timid siren]

That's was my intention

[dark stream]

it's a bit similar to clerics in grim hollow, where the number of clerics is very reduced
since "the gods are dead" and all, so the ones who took over are obviously not quite at their level
to take on many clerics

[timid siren]

My world is called Taer-Drathkor originally it was called Drathkor named after Kor The All Creator, but what happened in the past opened a tear to the hells on the world so now it has Taer in its name

[pearl storm]

''The Sanguine Order has been long under attack by many different factions. The Arcanist Inquisition alongside the different Arcane Universities have been trying to eradicate their existence to the fullest while some of the Kingdoms such as the Bureauch Empire have been putting their forces into their hunt too. Though the Sanguine Order has many enemies their members have been able to avoid them through wit and stealth. On the rare occasion though that these fail the members have been seen to be able to defend themselves through their arcane use of Sangromancy but the truth is that the Order has been mostly consisted of researchers and mages who lack the body and strength of real warriors to trained in battle. As such the Order has been looking into a way of making up for that weakness and have come together to search for a solution. The result was the creation of the Sanguine Construct."

[dark stream]

if the construct is sentient, that's a warforged, but powered by sangromancy

that's pretty cool

or is it just meant to be a golem?

[pearl storm]

"Sanguine Constructs have been described to be walking masses of metal standing up to 9 feet. Their strength and durability rivaling those of the best trained fighters in all of Etharis. Reports say that these Constructs have no sense of communication towards those who are not their masters. They give no sounds besides the clanking of metal, although some sources say that while being close up to the Construct they were able to hear muffled screams of multiple humanoids coming from inside the armor. How trustworthy these sources are have yet to be determined. The way these Constructs are created remains a secret as only deep seated members of the Sanguine Order have that knowledge. Despite that there have been many theories on how they came to be. Blood seems to be a key component in their creation such is apparent with one look on the Construct and its many pipes leading blood throughout them. Whose blood it is that is used in their creation though is a debatted topic. Some Wizards believe it to be the own blood of the creators used in the process as their blood possessing the arcane energy that would be needed in order to animate that mass of metal. The theory goes on to say how this way the Sanguine Constructs would be bound to their creators and that being the reason the Constructs follow their every command. Other claims though state that the blood for the Constructs comes from sacrificing the least promising members of the Order and getting at least a beneficial use of these members by using them to fuel the Constructs. This kind of believe of the blood animating the Constructs being that of sacrifices has many different versions from going around and saying that farmers and commoners are getting kidnapped and sacrificed by the Sanguine Order.

[dark stream]

so just golems

[plush thicket]

so a Golem and not a warforged then

[dark stream]

it's kind of necromantic, the way you portray them

[plush thicket]

so is Sangromancy in a way

[dark stream]

yee

[pearl storm]

These kind of stigma though have always been present when discussing the Sanguine Order and the school of Sangromancy. What leaves a few of us scholars more preocupied though is how much these Constructs are just metal animated by Blood or if there is a lifeforce within them that stems from the arcane use of Blood. If it were the case then who evers blood it might be that is fueling these Constructs has a part of their innate lifeforce split from them and residing in these Constructs. How such would affect a being is unclear as the public research on Sangromancy has not been very far yet. The secrets of their creation may be unbeknownst to us but what we do know is that no man should try to face a Sanguine Construct as these Cosntructs no nothing of mercy and will vanquish whatever it sees as a threat to its masters."

[plush thicket]

so no reason someone couldn't play as a warforged flavoured as a Sanguine construct

[pearl storm]

Liking my book on the Sanguine Construct?

[plush thicket]

more musing

[pearl storm]

A Warforged was not what i was going for but you gave me the idea that I can make a Grim Hollow specific subrace of Warforged steming from the sanguine Construct

If you want I could make one fully

[pearl storm]

Absolutely

[timid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-neutron-brain-blast-gif-26144025

[pearl storm]

I did write these now as an enemy type first so the Warforged were not on my mind

[dark stream]

base warforged page: https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/lineage:warforged

M31 is an "Envoy" subrace

[pearl storm]

Yea I could easly do that

I can use some of the things I set for the Sanguine Construct enemy type and work them into the subrace

Question though

Would you guys want it and would you play it?

Cause right now I wouldn't go on and create it for myself but I have no problems making one for you

[dark stream]

depends how a peepo feels at the time they make characters

I could totally see like, a sanguine warforged be something like, a more aggressive fighter/barbarian type

[timid siren]

It'll be there as an option if they want to to that

[dark stream]

or brawly strength monk- like maybe your past you were extremely aggressive and out of control
and then your monk ways you try to calm yourself down, because when you became sentient, you regretted
being so violent

maybe

[pearl storm]

Well

What tool could I use to make a subrace?

So it's not just text document

[timid siren]

You can do that in dndbeyond

[plush thicket]

tbh Majora it feels more like it would work as just a "reskin" of a regular warforged

[dark stream]

possibly a reskin of the "juggernaut" based on his description of it being big

unless it's supposed to have something that sets it apart, ability wise

[plush thicket]

yeah, that's what I was thinking

[pearl storm]

Huh there isn't Warforged on DnDBeyond as an option to make a varianz for it

Guess whole new species then

[timid siren]

Nevermind you can't

[pearl storm]

It will certainly have it's own flavour

[plush thicket]

Ok, first lesson of being a DM majora

the less you do, the better it will be

[pearl storm]

I know

[timid siren]

Never over share

[pearl storm]

No big planning too much

[plush thicket]

particually for the first time

[pearl storm]

Yee

[plush thicket]

it's better to run a relativly generic game

[dark stream]

is why I was also saying I don't think going hard on "character" is good for a first-time dm
like my redemption paladin, or Rhea is supposed to be

lean into it, learn, then expand

[pearl storm]

I mentioning other places that I plan on just going with the sessions and having multiple ways of how a session could go and which one of the story strings the party goes towards

Make a good bunch of less development simple story ideas where it can go and flesh things only out when the game actually goes into that route

And even then don't make a month of planning for 16 sessions

[plush thicket]

nope stop, that's already too much planning

[pearl storm]

Nah that wasn't real thinking

Go along with the session and just prepare stuff for multiple ways but not multiple big stories

[plush thicket]

nope, still too much planning

[pearl storm]

Just small ideas and then can make more if needed

[pearl storm]

Ok wiat I got it

https://tenor.com/view/idiot-you-gif-5902056883835987822

[plush thicket]

here's what you do

[dark stream]

there you go

[pearl storm]

That's better

[plush thicket]

make a plan, start the game, get rid of the plan and make stuff up for 3 hours

realise that making the plan is a waste of time

[dark stream]

having a plan set will just make everyone frustrated, since the players need some notion of "control" of what they want as well

[plush thicket]

and skip straight to making stuff up

[dark stream]

though obviously, if the players intentionally do everything but the campaign's story
it'll be a different horror story

[timid siren]

Oh god, that's a DMs worst nightmare

[plush thicket]

and that's why there is no plan

[dark stream]

yee

players joined the campaign to play that campaign, so should play into some plothooks
but there needs to be room for "doing their own thing" as well

sometime, an entire session might not even advance the story at all, and just be full team rp, or shopping

[timid siren]

Which can be a good thing

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

Exactly

[pearl storm]

And that is nice and cool

Cause that's part of the story

[potent crypt]

we never got to explore the underground church

[pearl storm]

Avatar is probably among the best examples to look at for a DnD Campaign

Weird yes but it makes total sense

[potent crypt]

no wedding either

[pearl storm]

Bunch of travelling

A main party

The party can get allies, advances their techniques and skills

Their gear

Random encounters on the travel

Story threads

[potent crypt]

sounds like any among like 500 fantasy animes

[pearl storm]

Fun no pressure episodes that advance characters though

[pearl storm]

YOU TAKE THAT BACJ RIGHT NOW YOU LITTLE SHITLING

https://tenor.com/view/desync-table-slam-table-smash-crush-angry-gif-1736984351640038904

[potent crypt]

i mean it's broad descriptions

it hits alot of things

[timid siren]

Like Final Fantasy

[potent crypt]

indeed

[timid siren]

Final Fantasy 1 is the story the bards tell at taverns meanwhile Final Fantasy V is what really happened

[potent crypt]

[pearl storm]

Dragon Quest 11

Fuck that game was so goated

[dark stream]

instead, we get to explore norway

[potent crypt]

oh yeah it is norway isn't it

snowy mountains

and durring winter time

immersive

[timid siren]

I lke how I made this

[pearl storm]

I too like how you made this

[dark stream]

like us some "devil in me" character vibes

[pearl storm]

By the way

Aizo

I have been kinda stuck at the design for the Sanguine Warforged

I don't know I am not at my full brain capacity cause I am tired

And it's hard to go for your robot style so I think I need to scrap that whole idea and abandon a human look completely

And lean more into what I did with the Sanguine Construct

[shy wigeon]

I late but take your time cannon 💜 glad you’ve been focusing on taking care of yourself

[plush thicket]

I've been lied to

[plush thicket]

Jo-Rah takes 12 psychic damage cause I said so

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[pearl storm]

I SWEAR I GOT IT

You wanna test it right now?

[plush thicket]

literally does not exist

[pearl storm]

Through the Djinni Extension

That's the one I used but of course I would need to test if the sound applies to the other players too

But that extension should do the job

The music setting is a bit iffy but you can set it up if you know how and do all kinda custom sounds and music

[plush thicket]

it won't work with the set up

OR doesn't allow for enough data to be sent for it to properly work

[pearl storm]

Me don't understand

Wanna hop on my Owlbear session and I'll try to play music and you can tell if you hear it

[plush thicket]

not really

[pearl storm]

[hollow plume]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4xKT3gQRgi0?si=aMSX0Zq-CVU2SqET

HAZU-YARI MENTIONED

[pearl storm]

Well Mr DM what is the ruling now if I wanna have my Hazu-Yari, Sword and Shield equipped at the same time

[plush thicket]

unfortunately you don't have proficiency in exotic weapons

[pearl storm]

Oh well

Fighter can still have Bow, Shield and Sword equipped in the same time though

[plush thicket]

no they can't

they still only have 2 hands

[pearl storm]

Oh but you can

[subtle imp]

what, the fighter is going to "shoot" his sword as an arrow???

[pearl storm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/93uZxnYuKFQ?si=qeNytZt5j8fSXcf9

So this is historically accurate

https://youtube.com/shorts/7EUK-QCdAd8?si=V_JL3a19i9CR9rbF

And now this

[hollow plume]

Unless you are going to fantasy japan, you will not receive a hazu yari

I have bucklers in Kavinor, but they're a +1 AC and you can still use 2-handed weapons

[pearl storm]

But the three weapon combo still works with a normal bow?

[hollow plume]

try me

[potent crypt]

justin

i has question

can i still buy from the store?

and can i sell my leather armor and long sword to the merchant to be able to buy studded leather armor for 10GP?

studded costs 45GP

long sword costs 15GP

and leather armor costs 10GP

i might have mathed wrong

yes i have

can i buy studded for 20GP

[pearl storm]

Ok

So I found a solution

The Owlbear Rodeo Djinni extension is kinda broken

I don't know why but many links don't work

But Soundcloud stuff works perfectly fine

@dark stream wanna test the Audio extensions ok Owlbear Rodeo with me?

[plush thicket]

https://youtube.com/shorts/mXaknF3uKBY?si=S3PPh4gM3JZ3plzi

[timid siren]

That's evil. I love it

[pearl storm]

Mage Hand for that purpose

And a trusty meat sacrifice

I mean

Familiar

[timid siren]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W6SQ0Aho_O0

[plush thicket]

sounds like there's a low level anti-magic field in this dungeon that prevents the use of mage hand

[timid siren]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/q-p3TVeiZcg

[pearl storm]

Meh familiar go and try out

[timid siren]

unseen servent could work

[plush thicket]

what a strange coincidence that the anti-magic field also prevents those spells from being used

[timid siren]

Send in the rogue

[pearl storm]

Meh Bean's go and try out

[hollow plume]

I will allow this

[plush thicket]

can I buy any magic items

[hollow plume]

I'd say no, since I'm using the common shop we had last session, but I'll let you buy some healing potions

[plush thicket]

I think I actually still have some healing potions from somewhere

[pearl storm]

I am not satisfied at all and I don't even know how I came to this Monk Asian theme here

I need some help on where to go with the design of the Sanguine Warforged

I love how the Sanguine Construct came out but I can't quite settle on how to make the design for the Warforged

[dark stream]

you don't specifically have to give them a unique look
I just envision them being typical warforged, but their power source is sangromancy

this is a fan sketch, but shows roughly the normal warforged subraces

• envoy: built with a specific purpose in mind
• skirmisher: built for fine motor skills/base desterity(also known as the "normal warforged")
• juggernaut: built with raw power in mind. they're bigger and stronger than the others, but lacks the intelligence and dexterity

[pearl storm]

Hmmmmm

[dark stream]

my M31 is an "envoy" subrace, likely originally built to create "something" though she has no memory of what it was, nor her inventor

[pearl storm]

Yea I am just confused cause the warforged main art you see or the officer owe is just

Too much I feel like

Like not fitting

[dark stream]

her powersource I've flavoured to be a pale blue colour
I'd imagine sanguine style the source would be red, instead- for one

[dark stream]

there are many different "styles" though you can see that this one is the "skirmisher" archetype

[pearl storm]

It is double hard to do it on Heroforge cause there is a kind of lack of in-between sci fi and classic old fantasy

[dark stream]

the "warforged" race as a whole, was engineers and arcane users wanting to create constructs to fight in a war
but in their trials and tribulations, they managed to make their constructs sentient, which was the birth of "warforged"

sentient constructs

[dark stream]

yup ! totally agree with that, but you don't have to limit yourself with heroforge
heroforge is simply a cartoony model-creator we use, because it's easy

[pearl storm]

Yea but I kinda want them to be a subrace of Warforged then so I don't feel like iy should resemble the other ones

[pearl storm]

Yea true

[dark stream]

I've shown you before, but this "old" style of plating, you can see like the frame has been dug out of some ruin
is part of the aesthetic I like

[pearl storm]

I'd wish there were more tools like Heroforge cause even my ass who can't draw can atleast make stuff there and handbuild things still in a sorta way without using shitty AI

[pearl storm]

Yea that kinda of design theme was also what I went for with the Sanguine Construct

Looking like it is metal, armor and other stuff that is fitting in that kinda technological era of the Grim Hollow world

Not directly huge heaps of advanced engineering

And technology

[dark stream]

The warforged were built to fight in the Last War. The first warforged were mindless automatons, but House Cannith devoted vast resources to improving these steel soldiers. An unexpected breakthrough produced fully sentient soldiers, blending organic and inorganic materials. Warforged are made from wood and metal, but they can feel pain and emotion. Built as weapons, they must now find a purpose beyond the war. A warforged can be a steadfast ally, a cold-hearted killing machine, or a visionary in search of purpose and meaning.

from the warforged page, on their creation/lore

[pearl storm]

I thought about going for a full Bone and Blood kinda vibe too

[dark stream]

yup ! this exactly- though my "M31" was created with the purpose to create or build something else
I made her an "artificer" who's entire thing is creating engineering marvels

[pearl storm]

Like as if they were created more by the Blood Druids of Grim Hollow

[pearl storm]

But I scrapped that cause it's even harder to do in HeroForge

[dark stream]

yup ! more "golem"'y warforged

[pearl storm]

I think I will try and look for inspo or just see if talented artists made something in thay direction already

Cause right now atleast I am a bit burned out on the design

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

The mechanical stuff of the race I already all got but I don't wanna share it without an image alongside

[dark stream]

which is understandable- since regular warforged already have the three obvious paths, in "power" "dexterity" and "purpose"

if only the "mass suggestion" spell were a bit lower level, then Rhea could pick it up eventually

[pearl storm]

Oh right

You multiclass

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-simpsons-point-and-laugh-laugh-at-hahaha-gif-18352565

[dark stream]

she does get the normal "suggestion" once she levels sorcerer to level 2
which won't happen until character level 12 though

[pearl storm]

No fast spell progression for you!

[dark stream]

[pearl storm]

Huh? Why not go for 1 more sorcerer lvl then and get it

Just that one lvl for one of the best spells

I'd do it

Suggestion can and is ridiculous good

[dark stream]

I might at some point, but more importantly, I need to get cleric up in levels
since there are certain eldritch milestones I need to reach

I just needed the 1 early sorcerer level to get access to dissonant whispers
but in doing so, I did also get the ability to speak telepathically to others, from aberrant mind trait

but yeah

the more you split your class, the more you delay the milestone perks

I got sorcerer early for the aberrant mind benefits- but the plan is now
to go all the way to 11 cleric, before I put more levels into sorcerer

if the endgame in the campaign does get us to character level 16
I'd end up lv11 cleric/lv5 sorcerer

why such an odd level for cleric? mind-sliver has certain milestones where it increases damage
it starts at 1d6, but at lv5 it becomes 2d6, and at 11 it becomes 3d6, plus lv11 is when you get access to 6th level spells

plus if I can get lv5 sorcerer after that
it'd let me have access to 3rd level sorcerer spells

the absolute endgame, though it'd be post-campaign
would be lv12 cleric/lv8 sorcerer, at character level 20

even if the campaign doesn't get us all the way to 16, it'd still just be 11 cleric, and remaining levels into sorcerer

[pearl storm]

I'd wish it brings us up to lvl 17 just for the Steal Immortality spell so my character has finished his personal quest in the campaign

But lets see

In the future I'd probably ask depending on it if for the rule of story we could do an exception but like that is so far away that these matters have no need to be speaken of now

[dark stream]

it'd be kind of cool if we all survived the initial campaign, there was a post-campaign thing
where Rhea was the boss of that, and you'd all have to fight her since she'd gone completely insane
and turned into an aberrant horror

if anything, I could "possibly" stop at lv7 or lv8 cleric
and get sorcerer to lv 3, before continuing cleric to 11
but regardless, sorcerer wouldn't get further before
a good bit in

lv7 cleric I get access to cleric's 4th level spells
and at lv8, my wisdom mod is added to my cantrips(specifically mind-sliver)

[crisp jackal]

We had no dnd this week right?

[pearl storm]

@crisp jackal

[pearl storm]

Hmmm where have I geard the words "Death is not the End"

Uuh Cannon say should I read the descriptions of these episodes

Some stuff here sounds awfully familiar

[plush thicket]

I wouldn't, no

[pearl storm]

Could it be that you took some heavy inspiration from there?

[plush thicket]

I literally said that I did

[pearl storm]

Atleast from the descriptions of the two first episodes it sounds very very familiar

Hey I ain't judging or saying anything bad if you did

Just asking

[plush thicket]

I've edited most if not all of the details but kept a few of the overall themes cause I like them

[pearl storm]

Ah I see

So the overall vague storyline might still be sameish?

If that is the case I will not look at that stuff then at all

I randomly got on them since I was scouring Ghostfire Gamings shop on all the Grim Hollow books that they got

[plush thicket]

keep to the actaul source books and away from the campaigns they released

[pearl storm]

Oh why that specifically?

I planned on probably getting just the GM guide and the Monster Beastirary

And then share them both probably with our fellow DM's here

Do you have the Monster's book?

[plush thicket]

those are fine

there's a big chance there will be stuff that I take from other campaigns that they've done

[pearl storm]

But either way I probably wouldn't get them that soon like probably 3 weeks atleast or more then a month till I can buy stuff online cause I'm setting up a new bank account

[pearl storm]

Ah I see

Won't snoop in them then

Oh by the way I saw they had a Valikan themed campaign there and that seems cool

The Nordic stuff and frozen area

And the wider spread beliefs there like the Great Serpent and all

Also the Blood Druid comes lore wise from there so extra cool cause Blood Magic

Grim Hollow do be cool

[potent crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/yay-yeah-happy-dance-gif-18266119187889292563

[dark stream]

liger getting upgrades

[pearl storm]

Say

Can I shoot blood out of my eyes Cannon?

Horned Lizards can do it

Can I do it too as a Lizardfolk Sangromancer?

https://tenor.com/view/horned-lizard-tcu-gif-18564322

[potent crypt]

that is a disturbing visual

this is something it's naturaly able to do?

it really doesn't look comfortable

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-worried-sad-gif-13859646

[pearl storm]

Yup

Suprised you never heard of them

Horned Lizards do this as a way to escape predators

[potent crypt]

i might have

i'm very forgetfull

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/horned-lizard-blood-squirting-lizard-self-defense-gif-17494531

[potent crypt]

i see

[dark stream]

lizards are just alien in general

dropping their tail to get away too, and such

[potent crypt]

why the eye tho

i really hope it doesn't hurt or irritate them

i do have a lizard i really like

armadilo lizard

looks like a tiny dragon

https://tenor.com/view/armadillo-girdled-lizard-donut-put-down-lizard-reptile-gif-12947939875503267062

[pearl storm]

At least eight species (P. asio, P. cornutum, P. coronatum, P. ditmarsi, P. hernandesi, P. orbiculare, P. solare, and P. taurus) are also able to squirt an aimed stream of blood from the corners of the eyes for a distance up to 5 ft (1.5 m).[3][4][5][6] They do this by restricting the blood flow leaving the head, thereby increasing blood pressure and rupturing tiny vessels around the eyelids. The blood not only confuses predators but also tastes foul to canine and feline predators. It appears to have no effect against predatory birds. Only three closely related species (P. mcallii, P. modestum, and P. platyrhinos) are certainly known to either be unable to squirt blood or only do it extremely rarely.[4]

[potent crypt]

wait if the blood tastes bad to them why would they want to eat them?

[pearl storm]

Alao

Also

[potent crypt]

surely they would learn that oh this tastes bad i don't wanna eat this

[pearl storm]

From what we know the Lizards are in no pain or anything while shooting the blood

[pearl storm]

You know how long animals live?

One wolf will eat one and say it tastes like shit and the next one though who is fresh and didn't encounter these fuvkers will go and try to eat them

[timid siren]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/J5yJpU2Dh0U

[pearl storm]

Didn't get to send in my new version of the Sanguine Warforged yesterday

[pearl storm]

Also yes he got some clenched in booty cheeks

[hollow plume]

Remember Kavinor gang, there is no DND tonight

I am sorry

[pearl storm]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-atreus-do-not-be-sorry-be-better-gif-20218077

And by better I mean

Put me in the campaign and make 3 sessions a week

[hollow plume]

Just for that, no