Gacha Gaming

[proper gust]

And both of them tear shit apart solo

[grave nebula]

if non void hunter DEF unit already hitting hard

[proper gust]

Ah that's what you mean

[grave nebula]

the one im waiting is SUPPORT class void hunter

how they gonna make dat one OP

cuz all other class can be stright up DPS

[proper gust]

Eh, don't Stun characters have mid damage?

[grave nebula]

Ligher deal DMG

[proper gust]

Seemed like Damage, Rupture and Anomaly are the dps types while Stun, Defense and Support are the utility types

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-zzz-ultimate-zenless-zone-zero-hd-gif-8402043041052567882

stunner btw

[proper gust]

But tbh everyone seems to do pretty nice damage even the Supports

[grave nebula]

iyup Astra Yao dealing massive DMG and she a support

so wat Void Hunter Support gonna be

[proper gust]

I'm just hoping any eventual powercreep aren't to the degree that it greatly messes up non-Void Hunter units. I remember one of the biggest issues with Genshin powercreeping Venti with CC resistances was that it greatly nerfed Ayaka

[grave nebula]

once again i said they not equivelance of archon, cuz archon were never stated to be more powerful then anyone else so they get powercreep on next unit release..
meanwhile Zenless flat out stated Void Hunter is a powerful unit dat above other unit and will stay relevence tru whole game time tbh if u ask me idk why they pick dis route and everyone just gonna pull void hunter and skip everyone else and make their work harder so the old void hunter didnt get powercreep

[proper gust]

And once again, what Hoyo did or didn't state is irrelevant

[grave nebula]

to u

cuz so far Zenless is keeping their word

[proper gust]

No, it's objectively irrelevant

They don't need to state it for it to happen

[grave nebula]

until dat day happen its stay relevence

[proper gust]

They didn't state that Furina would be the most busted buffer on release, but she was

There's no point in bringing that up when it doesn't make any difference to the discussion of the actual characters themselves

[grave nebula]

so far they kept their word, miyabi still didnt fall off or been power creep by anyone yet

and she missing an S rank support even

[proper gust]

Venti was uber busted CC whether or not they stated he would be

And the powercreep that he was subjected to, messed up Ayaka

[grave nebula]

missing the point

[proper gust]

I would say you are the one missing the point

[grave nebula]

genshin can be busted, they never state they OP dat mean they CAN powercreep them anytime they want

[proper gust]

You are the one that keeps trying to bring Hoyo statements into the discussion when I'm not even talking about that

[proper gust]

So you agree with me after all

[grave nebula]

Zenless said Void hunter is OP then everyone else

so they have to make all new unit not over powered Void hunter

[proper gust]

Again you are focusing on the wrong thing

I NEVER SAID OTHER UNITS

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT

[grave nebula]

yes all others unit also follow dat rules

dosent matter wat they are they gonna have to twek them to not overpowered the void hunter

[proper gust]

This is flat out wrong. Powercreep has NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING STRONGER THAN OTHER UNITS

When I say powercreep I am talking about NOT OTHER UNITS

[grave nebula]

dat is powercreep is... being more powerful

[proper gust]

I'm talking powercreep of the rest of the game. Gameplay mechanics, enemies, stuff like that

[grave nebula]

YES those are included

i been saying

[proper gust]

In genshin it was stuff like, for instance health draining debuffs powercreeping ALL shielders, including Zhongli. Or CC resistances powercreeping ALL CC characters, not just Venti

Void Hunters are not immune to being powercrept by gameplay elements. Hoyo saying they are stronger than other units, is IRRELEVENT

[grave nebula]

they literally said void hunter is a unit dat gonna stay relevent tru whole game

• like i said idk why they said such thing ^^^ cuz it just making their work harder so newer unit or game mode didnt make them totally useless

[proper gust]

They just can't be powercrept BY OTHER NON-VOID HUNTER UNITS

I'm specifically excluding that particular powercreep, I have stressed it multiple times

[grave nebula]

basically i guess, rn Miyabi still perform better then Shuanguang

[proper gust]

So please stop misrepresenting me as talking about that specific powercreep

[rugged sand]

UR BOTH WRONG

[final musk]

^

[rugged sand]

Wuwa is number 1

[final musk]

okay

i dont agree anymore

[grave nebula]

in term of quality sure

[final musk]

[grave nebula]

lol

[proper gust]

WuWa has no bara husbandos so it is number poop

[grave nebula]

WuWa number 1 on gacha game quality rn

but game optamization is dogshit

[grave nebula]

no defending dat one alti

[rugged sand]

Also I have no idea what u guys arguing about

[final musk]

cause they don't either

both their arguments are flawed af

[proper gust]

ZZZ has Banyue, Ben, Pan, Lycaon and Manato so it beats WuWa

[final musk]

and clearly they both need to play more games

MZ especially

💤

[grave nebula]

dats the most true thing dat have been said

[grave nebula]

im trying okey

aint got space anymore

[proper gust]

Nah it's simple. I worry about Void Hunter characters getting powercrept in the future, by gameplay elements that are specifically NOT other non-Void Hunter characters. MZ keeps refuting that by saying Hoyo stated that Void Hunter characters will always be stronger than other non-Void Hunter characters. Ergo, we're not even on the same page.

[grave nebula]

i did explained the gameplay part hours ago when we started the convo

[proper gust]

No, you didn't. You just kept reiterating "Hoyo stated"

Hoyo's stated NOTHING on non-character powercreep

[grave nebula]

i did, they tried to make people use less of Miyabi

anti miyabi patch for last 2-3 patch

[proper gust]

And Miyabi has been out how many years?

[junior arch]

holly, no i am not reading 500+ messages to know what is going on here lol

[grave nebula]

[proper gust]

No need, it's all fluff.

[grave nebula]

valid tbh

[junior arch]

i like fluffly tails

[proper gust]

If Genshin is any indication, ZZZ void hunters won't be powercrept for at least a year and a half to two years, if not more.

[grave nebula]

dats why i dont use Genshin as indication

one is handle by team dat ruined the game and move away from its main idea and in dogshit state

[proper gust]

Good, you go on thinking Hoyo's statement about other characters is some guarantee that other gameplay elements won't powercreep any Void Hunter characters. I'm not so naive

[grave nebula]

another one still listening and so far on its track (beside the TV stuff)

[proper gust]

I don't think the game was ruined during 3.x and 4.x

[grave nebula]

yeh better then random speculation of people outside who is random player just like me i take official statement anyday over random rumor

[proper gust]

In fact I think 3.0-4.6 were peak genshin

[grave nebula]

yeh it ruined after that

it literally lost its marble the moment we enter natlan

[proper gust]

Except there is no official statement

[grave nebula]

there is, in special livestream

[proper gust]

Nope. That was specifically regarding other characters

There has been no statement about Void Hunter power vs other gameplay elements

[grave nebula]

they stated unit gonna stay relevent tru whole game and more powerful then everyone else, dats pretty much covered the gameplay element part

wont be BiS in slot but still relevence just like 2-3 patch ago with Anti-Miyabi patch back to back

[junior arch]

but genshin made over $40million dollars last month, so obviously it has to be better than every other gacha except for goon and deepspace. i dont know why you are discussion anything else

[grave nebula]

gamemode and event are tailor made to counter her, but aint stopping her

[proper gust]

If that's how you choose to interpret the statement then fine, but I think it's a naive interpretation that sets yourself up for future disappointment. I rather stay cautious, and play under the assumption that all characters will eventually be subject to some manner of powercreep eventually. It's the way of gacha after all

[grave nebula]

i knew alot on twitter would agree to dis

[grave nebula]

appolagized for being naive then cuz dats how i understand wat they saying

[final musk]

it's not even just gacha. It's every single game.

[proper gust]

I mean it's a valid interpretation I'm not gonna deny that. I just don't think it's gonna pan out

[final musk]

There hasn't been an example of 0 powercreep.

[grave nebula]

[proper gust]

I interpret it as that they won't be so severely powercrept that they end up practically useless.

And even that's not necessarily it either, could also interpret the statement as simply that they will stay big important to the story

[grave nebula]

they already doing it, which is they testing how player feedback on doing Anti-Miyabi patch

seem like people are okey with it

my prediction in 3? 4? patch ahead we gonna have Anti-shuanguang patch

enemy tailor made to make her not as effective but can still clear and release new unit dat tailor made for those enemy

[proper gust]

Nah, I don't think that's much testing really. Significant powercreep won't prolly come for a while, these gachas seem like they save it for big new version number expansions. So 3.0 would be earliest for Miyabi, maybe even 4.0 for Shunguang

[grave nebula]

just like Yixuan & Ydhari BiS againts miasma bosses cuz they ignore DEF
which is Miyabi weak againts, all those enemy still weak to Ice btw

Miyabi strongger them those 2 but not BiS option againts those bosses

[proper gust]

Yanno I've pretty much just been ignoring weaknesses for the most part cuz my only good units are Fire and Physical and I been getting a LOT of Ether and Ice weakness stages. And I been having no trouble

[grave nebula]

u can ignore them until enemy actually resistance to them

[proper gust]

Yeh I'm not ignoring resistance, just weakness

Weakness doesn't seem like it matters too much

[grave nebula]

in alot of situation is dosent effect as much it help

[proper gust]

Another thing that seems kinda common to gachas, weaknesses don't seem to help much but resistances hurt a LOT

[grave nebula]

i think dats apply to all game

not just gachas

[proper gust]

WuWa ToA where you can ignore the weaknesses and still full clear but the resistances will put you in for a BAD TIME

[grave nebula]

when there resisatnce they resist resist

[proper gust]

Nah I've played plenty of rpgs where weakness exploitating was amazing or almost mandatory even

It's resistances that generally tend to feel weak instead.

[grave nebula]

does mmo works dat way as well?

[proper gust]

Oh I dunno, I actually haven't played many mmos

But many single player rpgs I've played it was often super useful to exploit weaknesses, while resistances often felt like they didn't do anything

Well, damage resistances anyway. Status resistance has always been king

[grave nebula]

game i played usualy the weakness dosent matter as long u can do high enough DMG

but element resistance really effected hard

enemy with super armor kinda shit

takes forever to melt thier hp

sometimes HP didnt even move when u hit them with element they resistance

not immune, just resistance... but at dat point just make it immune

[proper gust]

Some games you got mega rewards even for exploiting weaknesses. For instance Final Fantasy 5 the level 3 elemental spells get a special instakill effect separate from damage or death status if they hit an enemy weak to them

[grave nebula]

the only game dat VERY VERY weakness important is HSR

dat i ever touch

[proper gust]

That one is turn-based yes? A lot of rpgs I played were turn based so I guess that checks out

[grave nebula]

otehrs not so much u can still ignore the weakness

i dont like getting restricted

[final musk]

elemental / weakness systems are very archaic and too simplified to be used in mmos. They've been used in the past but they've largely been faded out now.

[grave nebula]

so they just ditched it

now im more convince both Hoyo and Kuro game upcoming gacha MMO not gonna succeed

i aint gonna play either

[proper gust]

I feel like a lot of that comes from the creative restrictions it puts on the gameplay in addition to how difficult it can be to balance

[final musk]

i'm sure it'll have a playerbase to stay afloat, but i doubt it'll top the current mmos

simply b/c they're likely to stick with anime aesthetics which is already niche to begin with

[proper gust]

I mean for instance FF14 Black Mage all their damage comes from Fire spells so having enemies with Fire resistance would make that class useless

[grave nebula]

ohh it would 100% we all know how much these loyal fanbase will just consume everything

[final musk]

it just depends on how the game is set up. But yeah it's just a pain to balance. Cause then you start favoring other classes for efficiency

[grave nebula]

Anime is main stream now!!!!! dont listen to all those normie

[final musk]

okay

[grave nebula]

unbased westerners

[final musk]

bring more players to pso2 ngs and blue protocol please

[grave nebula]

[final musk]

they're both dying

[proper gust]

But imagine if exploiting elemental weaknesses in Spiral Abyss or Tower of Adversity actually allowed for significantly smoother clears?

[final musk]

totally not because the devs are incompetent

[grave nebula]

WAIT ALREADY????

[grave nebula]

owhh i see....

[final musk]

nah they'll both stay afloat indefinitely

the whales are carrying

[grave nebula]

dats wat dats wat they said about black beacon yet here we are

[final musk]

it's just complicated because you have to first consider whether it's a tab target or action rpg first. Gacha doesn't really take any of this into consideration

[grave nebula]

some goes to Tribe9

[final musk]

gacha is just whack the dummy until it dies

no mechanics whatsoever

[grave nebula]

i wont go dat far

Tribe9 actually have fun mechinc

https://tenor.com/view/tribe-nine-shun-kamiya-qazira-tribenine-tookyo-games-gif-17594379449126136372

[final musk]

most of mmo endgame is also just whack the boss until it dies

[proper gust]

I think they referring to older gachas which kinda were lacking in mechanics outside of occasional "use specific thing on specific turn or DIE"

[grave nebula]

and then there gacha game dat didnt even making money but havent gone EOS lol

[final musk]

even modern lol

[grave nebula]

wont the mechanic and memorizing the pattern matters??

[final musk]

most of the challenge isn't even mechanics. it's working with the other 3, 4, 7, or 8 dummies alongside you.

[proper gust]

Nah Genshin, WuWa, ZZZ all have fight mechanics you gotta pay attention and respect

[grave nebula]

arent those wat MMO are?

like end game mmo

[final musk]

meh. mechanics are one and done once you learn it. thats not difficult after a certain amount of time. it's playing with other people

[grave nebula]

compare to other game, there are midly low mechanic and easier to play which is new player friendly

[final musk]

gacha is mostly a single player game

[grave nebula]

yeh most of them are

coop just for advertizing tbh

[proper gust]

Well maybe not ZZZ since all mechanics there are just dodge/block telegraphs. But that's kinda reductive to discount those, may as well say all fighting games, action rpgs, are also just "hit the dummy till it dies"

[final musk]

i mean they quite literally are

[grave nebula]

lol im right here thought zenless is above wuwa and genshin cuz how the counter works the chain attack stunning

[proper gust]

I mean ZZZ isn't really any less mechanically sound than something like Bayonetta. They both are primarily just "hit target till dies" but you are definitely doing more than just afk hitting a button if you want to not die

[grave nebula]

is there any game dat does Zenless like mechanic before?

the chain atk stun

[proper gust]

I mean more how Genshin and WuWa enemies, especially bosses, have fight mechanics sometimes that require more than just dodge/block the bad

Genshin it's usually just break the target before boss does instakill move

But that's still something

[grave nebula]

nah u can skip those in genshin

nowdays u dont even need to break

same goes to WuWa

[proper gust]

Sure, but they still exist

[grave nebula]

Zenless u need to break enemy to get 150%/200% extra DMG

[final musk]

isn't that just any arpg

[proper gust]

If you not on a timer you don't need to do that either

[grave nebula]

so dats more gameplay mechanic then GI and WuWa

[final musk]

like diablo, poe, or lost ark

[proper gust]

And I specifically said Genshin and WuWa lol

[grave nebula]

no im not talking timer

[final musk]

keep hitting dummy until stagger and stun

[grave nebula]

yeh pretty much but zenless have dis chain atk thing

[final musk]

can u send a clip of it

[grave nebula]

that i dont see other game have unless there are out there

[proper gust]

ZZZ I've yet to come across any "fight mechanics", so far it's been tried and true dodge/counter stuff as expected for a sorta beat em up

[grave nebula]

https://static.beebom.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/chain-attack-zzz.gif?w\u003d1024

[final musk]

qte?

what am i even looking at

[grave nebula]

when u stunned an enemy it pop out those option to swap to next character automatically

which is u can choose to not swap

if u want

[proper gust]

It's a mechanic where the game triggers a special character switch type thing where they do a combo attack of sorts

[final musk]

combos aren't new

[proper gust]

I know I've seen something like it elsewhere but can't remember what game. It also reminds me slightly of the combo attacks from the Tales of Xillia duology

[grave nebula]

yeh so there is game that already does dat before

[final musk]

there's always going to be some slight variation of it but its all basically the same

[grave nebula]

but still dat count as gameplay mechanic

[proper gust]

The ZZZ ones are a bit different from typical combo attacks cuz as you can see it's sorta like a mini cutscene type ordeal that give iframes too

[grave nebula]

which is why i put Zenless above Gesnhin and WuWa cuz they have that combo chain atk stuff

zenless > WuWa > genshin

[proper gust]

Like I said the closest thing I can think of at the moment is the Tales of Xillia combos with your linked party member, tho I'm pretty sure I've seen something much more similar before I just can't remember what game

[proper gust]

I mean ZZZ is literally an entirely different sort of gameplay loop

Genshin and WuWa are kinda arpg with open world exploration. ZZZ is instanced beat em up stages

[grave nebula]

we talking game mechannic right? dat count no?

yeh zenless more beat up stage

[proper gust]

Oh no moon was referring specifically to enemy mechanics from what I understood

ZZZ enemies pretty much only mechanics are things you need to dodge/block

[final musk]

[grave nebula]

does countering/parry enemy count?

[proper gust]

Genshin shakes things up sometimes with bosses having little phases or attacks where you gotta break targets

[grave nebula]

ohh zenless have dis

u just didnt reach it YET

[proper gust]

Nah that falls into the dodge/block category. Hence "hit it till it dies"

[grave nebula]

[final musk]

my question evenin genshin

can u just tank all of it?

[grave nebula]

yes

[proper gust]

Most of it yes

[final musk]

this i mean

just fail mechanics

[proper gust]

Certain bosses have attacks that autokill the onfield character if you don't stop them

[final musk]

do you actually have to do them

[grave nebula]

if u have high enough hp u can just face tank everything beside few exception

[final musk]

so it auto kills. but u have 4 characters right?

just sacrifice a lamb

[proper gust]

And those usually you gotta stop by breaking targets or some other sort thing that isn't the usual "dodge/block"

[grave nebula]

WuWa u died u cant face tank stuff cuz they actually hits hard u have to dodge and do those intro/outro buff

[grave nebula]

yes u can do dat

[proper gust]

Easier said that done, revive items have a long cooldown

[final musk]

I mean if u have to do mechanics okay sure. but if u can just kill the boss with the other3 characters.. then it doesn't matter

idk how far genshins got nowadays

[grave nebula]

it dosent changed much

[proper gust]

Those characters can die tho

[grave nebula]

same thing still

[final musk]

can u kill the boss before they all die?

if yes, it's a simple whack the boss until it dies

[grave nebula]

meanwhile in wuwa if u face tank stuff loosing 1 can mean u loose all 3 cuz when enemy hit u lose half of ur HP already

[proper gust]

I mean sure, anyone half decent at the gameplay should rarely ever be in danger of full wiping, but there are a few fights that can easily destroy you if you lax even just a little bit

Weekly boss version of Arlecchino is VERY punishing and can easily wipe all four characters one after another if you don't pay attention to a specific mechanic she does regularly throughout the fight

[grave nebula]

people used to called WuWa anime gacha open world soul like game which is i disagree, enemy does hit hard but not that hard and punishing

it is true u can die after getting hit twice or 3 times

but combo wise and gameplay its more so Devil may cry style then souls like

[proper gust]

lol "souls like" is so fucking inaccurate considering that literally nothing in the game is impossible to beat on your first try

The entire premise of "souls like" is learn-by-failure

[grave nebula]

exacally

people got it so wrong

[proper gust]

WuWa and Genshin, neither game have a single fight that can't be beat on the first try if you get lucky and/or are skilled enough at adapting on the fly

[grave nebula]

beside hologram but dat dosent count

[proper gust]

I mean even holograms technically can be beaten on the first try if your reflexes and adaptational skills are high enough

[grave nebula]

nahh with those hidden atk

[proper gust]

Everything the bosses throw at you is intuitive enough that it can be somewhat anticipated and adapted to.

[grave nebula]

aint so responce can dodge those

u cant dodge an attack outside of ur cam view

[proper gust]

Those attacks usually still have telegraphs you just can't see them. Sometimes you can hear them, otherwise you gotta be able to anticipate them. There are big brain ubergamers that have the skills to be able to do it

[final musk]

do you know if a bigger monitor helps with that?

[grave nebula]

Aera said newer hologram also the same??? has hidden atk dat u cant see or cant dodge unless u know its coming

[grave nebula]

it come from ur back

[final musk]

okay that 100% has a sound cue, no?

[grave nebula]

and boss in front of u

[grave nebula]

nope

u have no memorized it

[proper gust]

Having three characters also factors in, because if your first character dies to an attack you didn't anticipate, you just use the other two

[grave nebula]

she did it right after she ended a specific move

for first try u wont know its coming

[final musk]

[grave nebula]

u just die

[proper gust]

Ohhh you talking about Hecate's thorn wheels that magically seem to just spawn on your backside

[grave nebula]

i think Aera said the latest hologram right???? have hidden atk as well

u just need to memorized its there to be able to dodge it

if not u wont see it coming

[proper gust]

I haven't noticed any hidden attacks.

[grave nebula]

i hope they dont do that tho

no cheat atk

[proper gust]

But she has quite a few attacks that have practically no windup so you have to anticipate it, which is possible but extremely difficult

And almost all of her attacks also have dodge windows as tight as False Sovereign's. And some can't be dodged and have to be deflected instead

[grave nebula]

oh yeh moon dis game mode we talking about is most of the time 1 hit = death

[proper gust]

WuWa high-end difficulty versions of the bosses yeh tend to kill you in 1-4 hits

[grave nebula]

and i do admit i still cannot beat lv6 of any of it cuz im a panik ass motherfuckers

legit skill issue

[proper gust]

But I mean, I've literally beat a few of the rank 6 holograms on the first try and I'm a really terrible WuWa player, so it's possible

[grave nebula]

i mean Aera did say u can beat lvl6 if ur carlotta OP enuff

[proper gust]

I didn't beat literally any of them with Carlotta. I didn't even have Carlotta when I beat the Jinzhou ones

[grave nebula]

i kinda wanna show moon the hologram fight but im worried moon wont know wtf is on screen cuz there so much happening

[proper gust]

I beat Mourning Aix and Heron rank 6 both on the first try with Camellya,

[grave nebula]

i dont use her either i use Zani more

[proper gust]

Surprising one was Lorelei rank 6 I beat on the first try with Carte/SK/AeRover

[grave nebula]

ohh i cant beat her for shit

[proper gust]

That's kinda the funny thing I noticed about the holograms, quite a few of them I had a harder time beating the rank 5 than the rank 6

[grave nebula]

i panik so much

she spam so much stars

[proper gust]

Lorelei 5 took me many tries so it was funny I beat her rank 6 on the first try

[grave nebula]

lol

[proper gust]

IIRC it was the same with Inferno Rider, Crownless, and Sentry Construct I struggled hard with rank 5 but did Rank 6 on the first try

[grave nebula]

if we talking 1.x area i did beat them at lv6

rinnacita one i cant beat any of them at lv6

[proper gust]

Yes, but on the first try tho?

[grave nebula]

no hell no

[proper gust]

Mourning Aix was the most surprising one I think tho, cuz that one is very hard to see the counter indicator due to the colours of the boss and particle effects and how it moves

[grave nebula]

i think the monkey anoyyed me so much

[proper gust]

But I also used Camellya who is pretty busted against counter indicators in 1.x

[grave nebula]

i beat inferno with Xiangli yao

[proper gust]

Those are easy to anticipate but the timing for dodge is super tight, I think possibly even tighter than False Sovereign and Dreamless

[grave nebula]

so technically cheating abit cuz Xiangli yao slow down time on his liberation

only on cast

[proper gust]

Inferno sucks because it's tanky.

[grave nebula]

i hate dat u need to beat his bike first

then him

as he throwing his bike to ur face

[proper gust]

Which is why I hate this new endgame boss rush mode, because all four bosses are tanky and/or evasive as hell, love to drain the timer jumping across the room from you or having too much health

[grave nebula]

i enjoyed crownless hologram tho

actually feel cool

he did beat my ass multiple time but hell yeh the walking staring at each other just so fun to do

[final musk]

I think wuwa fights look great. But I really hate fights with so much visual clutter.

[proper gust]

Feilian Beringel=Health Sponge boss
Inferno Rider=Health Sponge boss
Sentry Construct=evasive boss
Lamp Myriad=evasive boss

I hate it, am dreading when they stick Hecate and Lorelei in there

[grave nebula]

maybe im too fucked by genshin at dis point and HSR

[proper gust]

Oh yeah the visual clutter is arguably what makes the fights so difficult. Lorelei for instance on the higher difficulties you quite literally can't see anything because of all your own player effects plus the bajillion things she's throwing at you nonstop

[grave nebula]

playing WuWa really felt liek ALOT less

[final musk]

can you disable your own player effects at least?

[grave nebula]

now with newest patch Zenless also listen to feedback and disable all those clutters shit on screen and 50 million numbers indicator on enemy

[grave nebula]

not... sure

[proper gust]

It's one thing I appreciate about Bayonetta, there's not much visual effect clutter and enemy attacks all have clear audio telegraphs as well so you can dodge/block them even if they come from behind offscreen

[grave nebula]

u can turn off DMG numbers

[final musk]

that helps at least

[proper gust]

No way I've discovered, which sucks cuz some of the best characters like Cartethyia are TONS of visual clutter

[grave nebula]

maybe im too fucked by genshin dat i felt wuwa didnt have as much plus i turn off the dmg numbers

zenless have TOO MUCH numbers, but thanx god current patch let u turn it off

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-zzz-combo-attack-burning-fist-zenless-zone-zero-gif-13279159804432418191

GOD i want ligher so bad

so satisfying to punch te shit out of enemy

[proper gust]

I can't wait for 2.6
https://fixupx.com/ZenlessWorld/status/2007097049729409097?s=20

ZenlessWorld (@ZenlessWorld)

New Free Pan Yinhu Skin 2.6 👨‍🍳
︀︀
︀︀#ZenlessZoneZero #ZZZero #ZZZ

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FixupX · Jan 2, 2026, 2:30 PM

[proper gust]

Doesn't look as satisfying as when Banyue does it

[grave nebula]

the oppesite actually

when he punch actually felt the umph and impact

Banyue felt like a soft blob idk why cuz how flowy his animation are

Lighter just stright up punching

his 1 strike punch when u swap him in just insanely satisfying

something about pull back arm and just just throw hand felt so good

https://tenor.com/view/lighter-zzz-ultimate-zenless-zone-zero-hd-gif-8402043041052567882

[lime bear]

The recent amount of jokes about eating paimon made by traveler might have something to do with it

Wait you're saying I have 2 most busted characters, and a racist bunny? What is my weakness? 😄

[junior arch]

started getting some echos ready for mornye, got plenty of def, but will need her weapon to get to 260 er

[grave nebula]

Official Birthday Artwork

[lime bear]

did they nerf this bos? I bonked it easy before phase swap

[grave nebula]

Sonic~

[lime bear]

unironically Kuro giving the WWa players a bike you can use EVERYWHERE for as long as you can is a funny punch to the face to Hoyo. me Gusta XD

[grave nebula]

like i said i feel like wuwa dev play all those game and copied everything put in their game but removed the anoyying part

aint no way all dis coincidence

[grave nebula]

There he is... The main DPS Lynae tailor made for

and Aera got wat chu want... Pink haired Nanami Fusion Sword user

[lime bear]

Really not difficult to do, no need to play the games either, all you have to do is follow the feedback or suggestions people post daily on twitter XD

I see people complain about a lot of stuff in genshin and HSR but Hoyo doesn't seem to be able to change tehir decisions because the people in decision making positions are stubborn and think that this is exactly what players want

for example

rumored leak that makes Bina's mask permanently removed a one time choice

why would you make an option like this

it's one thing to naming your character

another to make an uncgangame visual change in your character

and someone said "it's good"

[grave nebula]

welp i return back to Changli Brant Lupa team...

just sword user is more fun then gun i guess

melee ftw

[lime bear]

Jinshi+Phrolova+Swordboi for me for now, it's so silly

[grave nebula]

omg.... lupa... cover those up yoooo

aite bck to changli lol

totally road legal LMAO

IRIS my beloved

[lime bear]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

[lime bear]

Remove the second "I"

[grave nebula]

RIS

[lime bear]

I said the second

[junior arch]

I am still waiting for twitard to start calling aemeath a firefly clone lol

Being she will use a mecha

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/resist-temptation-anime-gif-8531428

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/s-nanami-nanami-nanami-mech-mech-gundam-gif-24567258

[junior arch]

If you want to plan your pulls from leaked info, aemeath is looking to be a || fusion burst liberation damage character that is to be used with lynae and chisa as bis, but could also work with mornye or use changli/lupa/brant in monofusion ||. Luuk is looking like || basic attack and use the guildrd set will benefit from mornye and probably sanhau/lynae for now || all this information is is not confirmed by kuro and is subject to be wrong though

[proper gust]

That's how Banyue's hits feel for me. But I also play on controller so that may make all the difference

[junior arch]

You know what, it has been a full year now in wuwa since we have have a new glacio chatacter, lol. And because lynae took over zhezhi spot as carlotta's sub, we really only have one good choice for glacio. 3.2 has to be glacio right?

[grave nebula]

Rover lmao

[junior arch]

Is rover going glacio next?

Would be odd to be glacio being rover would have no team to be apart of

[grave nebula]

either fusion or glaxio

b4 3.0 drop rumor about fusion rover but last few days suddenly glaxio ravor rumor pop up

donno which is real

[junior arch]

We still have 2 more character to have a chance to be glacio, if not then the cyberpunk collab has to be glacio

[grave nebula]

david would have been perfect Glaxio gauntlet DPS

https://tenor.com/view/davidmartinez-cyberpunk-edgerunners-cyberpunk-edgerunners-gif-27345171

but at lass.. it was the 2 girlies

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/Ea4jdUe2xZw

now dats a gift entering 2026, twitter retard dat been making accusation and dragging genshin community reputation tru the mud finaly gone

dis motherfucker legit should get sued by both Kuro and miHoyo

wat a great sight to see

[grave nebula]

[normal wolf]

Yumichika & Rangiku animations

[normal wolf]

He got the Shihouin drip

[lime bear]

Phantylia vs fire break team

[willow zephyr]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DTCdvqlCVVS/?igsh=dzkyczB4Mmp0eDhr

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DTCEJ-WjkZ2/?igsh=MTV6dXNpcjFjenJteQ==

[vestal quiver]

reminds me of the Columbina and Sandrone bird rage bait animation someone made to a weird extent

[grave nebula]

nah its perfect

https://tenor.com/view/mwah-mwah-girls-kissing-ilysm-gif-3978772078228953130

[vestal quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/nekomata-okayu-sus-okayu-look-anime-gif-16819148753809577075

[grave nebula]

Okayu approved

ma JP oshi

[grave nebula]

so there secret special Date cut-scene with Lynae after complating the Exploration Quest
no quest marker so indicator what so ever after You finish it, this how u make exploration Quest worthy to complete and make playable character actually exist in the world.

[junior arch]

downloading now

[grave nebula]

LMAO

okey game....

[grave nebula]

bit late but got her

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/mMXPa_PfS_4

still 3

[lime bear]

Don't bully Sandrone, too much XD

[lime bear]

Is he dumb?

[lime bear]

Falalcy and Hvatia are siblings I hope

both fake tehir attacks

hmm

interesting

out of all 5 star characters in WuWa

Ciaccona is the only one that has a craftable weapon in recommended (4star)

[grave nebula]

WuWa craftable 4* is mostly dogshit

since 5* perma weapon is gurantee on the banner maybe dats why imo its a stupid excuse

why cant craftable be decent/lil good as well

[lime bear]

Some of Genshins craftables are insanely good

[grave nebula]

prefer OG Lynae moar

[lime bear]

but most genshin craftables are also pretty bad

[grave nebula]

NEW craftable are good

specifically NOD KRAI craftable

[lime bear]

extremely specific use like generating ER on offield characters so you can use tehir ults more often to buff

[lime bear]

yeah new ones are good both stats and visual wise

[grave nebula]

visual is ok

[lime bear]

natlan mosly bad

[grave nebula]

i swear they sabotaging the game with natlan

even the limited 4* weapon is dogshit

[lime bear]

hahahahah

[grave nebula]

which motherfucker greenlid this one

LIMITED to weapon banner ONLY

dis one i guess Gaming can hold it but not worth it much to risk pulling on weapon banner

[lime bear]

if you want kinnich you practucally NEED his sig as well

[grave nebula]

Has Kinich

no Sig

Still Nuked

[lime bear]

has sig

no kinnich

was trying to get the otehr one

got it as well

[grave nebula]

someone else can hold it

[lime bear]

yeah I could give it to Mavuika if I decide to use her in dendro team

[grave nebula]

the passive is decent but the sub stats just 11% Crit rate so not pulling his Sig barely effected

Mavuika u need her sig and citlali

Kinich u dont need his sig, u need off fielder pyro dats the real issue

[lime bear]

I have Citlali and her sig

I didn't lpan on having Mavuika

[grave nebula]

Emilie fix dat issue cuz she keep the burning around

[lime bear]

For kinnich you need Toma with ER 500% XD

to be honest

if you have emilie just set the enemy on fire

she wil lmaintain it

and go with kinnch

[grave nebula]

Approved

[grave nebula]

Dehya can

kinich immune from interuption as well for 5 sec

[normal wolf]

@undone blade are you still interested in playing BBS?

[grave nebula]

ahhh DNA dont do dis rn... i aint got time

[grave nebula]

give meh!!!

void Hunter W-engine

[lime bear]

This is probably the best looking sword in teh game

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/nHVYiQdl4v0

NTE sudden posting

release date

[undone blade]

I have no WiFi. I am currently on a hotspot.

[normal wolf]

Ok

np

[proper gust]

Ugh cant wait till tomorrow I only need 7 more Fleurdelys drops to finish Ciaccona's skills

[lime bear]

She wants to kungfu me ?

[lime bear]

I decided to do teh quest nearly at the end of it's timer to be fair

but watching in cutscenes how Bina is kicking rocks out of boredom is kinda funny

it' so her

[lime bear]

interesting XD

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/KtO-1KRTFMc

checks out... all these i currently playing (disagree with WuWa winning... PGR should win here)

action combat best type of combat

need moar

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wuwa-wuthering-waves-rover-soliskin-cute-gif-17898459326181579250

[junior arch]

i would say the biggest achievement here is that you managed to find them all while getting you bike stuck on every rock along the way

[grave nebula]

TRUE!!!

[grave nebula]

Liben Day 1 Lore drop : Dornman Port

• town build ON Cargo shipping + Flower cultivation
• used to have Creepy Famous Sanatorium on top of the hill but been torn down recently
• have rumour "who visit the sanatorium will stay on the hill forever"
• Liben staying there causing him mora shortage

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-genshin-meme-liben-gif-27167448

dis guy drop better lore then actual Archon Quest

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHXPTwoHoS4&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB

spoiler 3.0 cinematic

[grave nebula]

this NPC have more body language, facial impression, even more interaction then a freakin Limited 5* Story Quest from Genshin... wat is dis

if these exploration Quest are voiced its literally Character Story Quest

felt like the gap is way way too far now

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2RbIKMtdXI

legit...

[willow zephyr]

What do u mean shes an npc?

https://tenor.com/view/menhera-chan-chibi-angry-anime-gif-25268544

Make them 4 star now

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-riot-toss-prison-prison-riot-gif-5610432

[undone blade]

Does call to exist count as a gacha game?

[lime bear]

if it has gamba it's a gacha

[undone blade]

Ah okay. It is not.

Though it can be a multiplayer game.

Or is a multiplayer game.

[lime bear]

The reason why Stelle will not have access to Elation is because we would make her so broken Hoy would have to shut down teh game, so at sarte of teh game we will not get Elation for Stelle, they need time to figure out how to make her as little broken viable as possibly, because we will maek her broken anyway

[lime bear]

WARNING! JAHODA ANTICS!

Only for the strong hearted

Absolute Adorableness, I approve, this is a good part of the story Hoyo. For once!

[lime bear]

Guys

this is a coletely wild thing to think but

what if

||Alice is Sustainer of Heavenly principles|| ?

[lime bear]

Well that's nice

[grave nebula]

yooo nte is very active

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n1IuYOd9wfw

release date???

[junior arch]

Middle tower done

[grave nebula]

deym not even fully filled is crazy

i cant even full clear with full filled line up

[vestal quiver]

||https://x.com/dimbreath/status/2008395067103314017|| Sparxie's Animations

fucken hell hoyo why does her animations gotta be so good man i wanted to save for Yae

[lime bear]

I'm seeing clipping issues and stuttering issues with her animations

[vestal quiver]

i think it there was some issues on the posters fault not much can be done about it

[grave nebula]

||https://vxtwitter.com/dimbreath/status/2008395067103314017||

Dim (@dimbreath)

[HSR - 4.0 BETA] Sparxie Animations

Streamable: https://streamable.com/c4930x

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 6, 2026, 4:27 AM

like always animator doin the gods works making top tier animation

[lime bear]

Clipping is not the user issue, they still have time to polish this

[white anvil]

The rendering comes from everything the scraped up data gives on it, which here is incomplete; meaning it's from the devs' end, not the poster, dim

You can tell b/c Yao Guang's anim's don't have this issue, but more importantly, the sleeve clipping is only found in her normal walking animation... nowhere else, where clearly there's already a high degree in refinement in such comparatively

Meaning an oversight had happened when they pumped out this Revised V1 Beta

[vestal quiver]

Ah I see

I prolly got mixed up cus I saw a post talking about the clipping being fucked up so I figured it was the case for this one

Now that I think about it idk if the clipping issue post was even hsr related

[white anvil]

diff game?

[vestal quiver]

Maybe idk

[lime bear]

It's not just her sleeves, some parts of her model clip even when she runs. I think they need maybe 2-3 weeks to finish her. It's also possible that her model is already finished but the version the poster has is an older build, which would make sense considering what they would be testing.

If they are supposed to test just the gameplay mechanics her model is not a priority

[white anvil]

some parts of her model clip even when she runs.
Ah, I'll trust this then, just gonna have to rewin and spot where those took place
Fs, they'll need some time to render the actual walking, non-clipping cloth physics in

It's also possible that her model is already finished but the version the poster has is an older build, which would make sense considering what they would be testing.
The practice that almost is always followed is that you'll have the base V1 version, so whatever they have there, then release subsequent better versions' adjustments with the associated beta versions

E.g. Most notorious one was DH:IL, V1 had HEAVY game-breaking-looking animations, visuals, and physics that just looked so wonk and incomplete at V1 of BETA; these later got phased out from V2 and onwards of the beta testing period

[white anvil]

As for the older build part, leakers won't really even showcase an older build unless:

• it's relevant for an upcoming one they already have or are aware of
• or out of pure "showcasing differences for a fun fact in history" lesson

If it's the former, then the "older" build isn't really the "older build", it'll just be the straight up current/base one then
We also know that this is indeed the case for 4.0's beta rn due to:

• leakers calculating back in late December that the BETA starting date would be pushed back to ~Jan. 6th 2026... so today, which is correct
• the sheer volume and quality of beta content being datamined rn and given out at this time [especially not prior to today]

it's very possible, however, that Sparxie's animation issue will be corrected as per by V2 beta release

and that the issue has alr been spotted by now to do so

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13031104854113737447

Team Shadow Complete

[grave nebula]

Short hair Lynae

[grave nebula]

oh come on..

[proper gust]

So how many patches till WuWa releases a playable character with bigger boobs than Zani and Fleurdelys?

[grave nebula]

bigger then zani already exist... flurdelyst prob never lol

she too huge

[lime bear]

last minute LC grab

back to farming now

[proper gust]

Oh? Pretty sure Zani's are the same size as Fleur's. Definitely bigger than Cantarella/Changli

[grave nebula]

Zani cant even reach the white box

Flurdelyst pretty much a whole person head a size lmao into the white box

demmit who's snitched, dis one of the time bugs is good

easier to clear lol

[grave nebula]

dude remind me of collage....

all 3 waifu NPC into card game i see

ohh nvm all NPC waifu are at the academy

NPC actually exist in the world not just GONE after a quest is complete

oh fuck... NANA using the monkey deck

yup she fucked me up

worrrhh Chisa clutch

https://fxtwitter.com/GenshinImpact/status/2008841037679042817

Genshin Impact (@GenshinImpact)

"A Traveler on a Winter's Night" Version "Luna IV" New Weapon Overview
︀︀#GenshinLunaIV #GenshinImpact
︀︀
︀︀Hello, Traveler~! Today, Paimon wants to introduce you to the brand-new weapon that will be appearing in Version "Luna IV"! Come on, let's take a look~
︀︀(Examples based on Level 90 and Refinement Rank 1)
︀︀
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FxTwitter · Jan 7, 2026, 10:00 AM

HP scaler crit DMG

sick suit

[grave nebula]

3hrs.... dealing with dis bitch....

who defuq make dis torture

i wanna slap dat stupid smile

dis whore is legit rage game

[junior arch]

You can build a cheat deck that can win all matches by buffing you cards infinitely

[grave nebula]

just got destroyed by dis kid

Citlali long lost relative in another universe

[grave nebula]

costum haired NPC....

new npc hair but defult npc model

[grave nebula]

so dreamless just drain ur HP accordingly....

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFLiwsWkayA&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB

https://youtu.be/rZVz7IoMkgY

[grave nebula]

• Columbina personal and 2nd option for Lunar off field support set
• Fischl??? Only set????

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0DYJSS1Hr6g

what dis video tell me is the person who do the final decision is a fucking idiot cuz the old concept was 50x cooler
Ydhari pink parfet a monkey thiren and not a octopus coomer bait Thiren
Seed old design is better
Old Ye Shuagguang also better and not having a sudden lingerie like tits semi see tru window for no reason

[lime bear]

HSR didn't need t odo this and I love them for doing this

[junior arch]

Lol, this is how you beat any opponent in peaks of prestige

This deck/character setup will let you have infinite energy and infinitely strengthen your cards

Makes the setup phase take a long time though

[grave nebula]

WTHell is dis deck

[normal wolf]

@undone blade it's back

[undone blade]

Nice.

[normal wolf]

Im gonna roll for him, didn't get him few weeks ago

[undone blade]

Good luck.

[normal wolf]

You interested?

[undone blade]

I can’t go on unless I use a hotspot. And there are so many other things attached to the hotspot. Adding my xbox would probably cause trouble.

[normal wolf]

Damn

[undone blade]

Yeah.

[junior arch]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPU8o4upi_E&pp=ygUVd3V3YSBhZW1lYXRoIGdhbWVwbGF5

Holy WTF

@rugged sand

[rugged sand]

HOLLY FCK

[junior arch]

All other animations in wuwa are mid now

[grave nebula]

its Nanami.. Kuro Game fav girl

alot like Echo from PGR

https://tenor.com/view/alisa-echo-punishing-gray-ravens-alisa-pgr-echo-pgr-pgr-gif-16777970576186224911

WuWa animation is getting to PGR lvl

[grave nebula]

10million % its Nanami

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-startrail-nanami-knight-nanami-pgr-gif-10150222441182588934

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-knight-nanami-startrail-nanami-pgr-gif-15007510645541421108

but god i hate her in PGR so much

PLEASE dont make her personality the same for the love of god

[grave nebula]

question should be "How satisfied are you with BOSS that only can quickly be beaten by Durin but nobody else" yeh????

[grave nebula]

might be screaming to a wall.. but atleast i let it out

with these retarded dev

[proper gust]

Nice I finished the new Hologram

[grave nebula]

im still the same as b4, didnt beat the last one

[proper gust]

I just finished maxing out Ciaccona's skills today and gave her some better echoes so I wanted to try my new and improved Cartethyia team. Obscene difference going from a decently built AeRover to a well built R1 Ciaccona, Carte tore through the boss

[grave nebula]

deym R1 Caiconna

yeh i aint doin dat i have to find another way

ma ciaconna echoes also kinda dogshit so dats on me

[proper gust]

This my current stats for them, Carte is S2R1, Ciaccona and Chisa are S0R1

[grave nebula]

yup way too high S0R1 cart and other 2 just using perma weapon

aint catching up to dat

[proper gust]

Aemeath giving similar vibes to Cartethyia with the whole mechsuit form. Fitting if she's Lahai-Roi's "Sentinel Resonator" like people theorize.

[grave nebula]

i dont even need to theorized anymore its Kuro game fav girl in PGR

if she not a sentinel resonator idk who is

the moment lahai roi trailer reveal

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-aemeath-amy-hologram-gif-10044260792284239090

https://tenor.com/view/punishing-gray-raven-pgr-nanami-knight-nanami-startrail-nanami-pgr-gif-15007510645541421108

https://youtu.be/_sY7xDJA3W8

called it

ol same formula

[lime bear]

Yup

No need to call it

It was obvious

I'm just happy I will be able to make more stupid teams

I'll make such a stupid team it should not work but it will XD

Yaoguai hyacine dahlia and firefly

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2QarxpPl0w

[grave nebula]

let see if dis 300% does give me the drop i wanted

300% stacked with 800% drops books

only dropped 1.....

[lime bear]

I hear ou like grinding so I added grinding to your grinding so yo ucan get more grinding while grinding

[grave nebula]

as warframe player

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

lets go!

hell yeh!

[junior arch]

it works, but does take longer to set up, but the rounds go faster

[proper gust]

Lycaon changes looking nice to put him with Banyue

[grave nebula]

is wuwa doing an Olympic wtheck is dis cool af artwork

ahhh like hoyofair thing

god deym

https://vxtwitter.com/Noelle_alter/status/2009826844242219039 https://vxtwitter.com/Noelle_alter/status/2009782410108608797

オルタ (@Noelle_alter)

カルテジアはおはにょしろ

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 10, 2026, 3:17 AM

オルタ (@Noelle_alter)

さすがシロネンさん
常時半脱ぎの人は全く違和感ないな

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 10, 2026, 12:20 AM

would buy in both game

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/iris-wuthering-waves-lahai-roi-lahai-roi-gif-6062144065531158806

[lime bear]

totally unrelated from that giant AD in tokyo

caught Hvata cheating

somehow she hit me with a frontal beam attack while I was behind her

[proper gust]

OMFG IS THAT CARETHYIA SKIN REAL!?

https://tenor.com/view/moan-glitch-gif-18901867

[lime bear]

Fuck you Hvatia

and fuck kuro for always request uneven amount of mats for anything

my autistic spirit rages

[proper gust]

Oh you mean like weekly boss drops not requiring a multiple of 3 to cap out a character's skills?

[lime bear]

No, I mean, 43 mats to level a character from 1-90 ascension but you never get the right amount and the last fight drops one too little so you have to waste more resources to get what you need and have excess.

why can't it be an equal amount

[proper gust]

Those too yeh, tho you can technically end up with the exact amount you need if the rng favours you, and they at least can be farmed all in one go by stocking up on Crystal Solvents and/or whaling. Weekly boss drops meanwhile are hard locked to 9 per week and 26 requirement means you'll end up with a wasted mat 2/3 of the time

[grave nebula]

PS spoiling shit lmao

[grave nebula]

dis apply to ALL GAME dat use stamina (yes including HSR cuz boss always drop 5 but some character didnt need multiple of 5 to max em out)

looking for reason to talk shit on Kuro

on another news...

https://vxtwitter.com/AKEndfield/status/2009460130673295871

Arknights: Endfield (@AKEndfield)

Arknights: Endfield Operator Combat Demo: Endministrator

Endfield won't stop progressing.

▼//Pre-register on our Official Website

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 9, 2026, 3:00 AM

Endfield MC looks promising

please let MC be usefull and actually have a place in Meta like WuWa did

should normalized MC being good unit

are we god now zenless MC

[grave nebula]

dis is good!!!

Geo already dogshit good they removed the timer restriction from triggering the lunar crystalized

maybe dis time Geo ACTUALLY be good, Geo needed dis

columbina be stacking on passive god deym

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nSvDcb9Yyc&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB

Mornye showcase

[willow zephyr]

just started the 3.0 main quest and idk who paink hair girl is but i want her

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-wuwa-aemeath-amy-hologram-gif-10044260792284239090
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oPU8o4upi_E&pp=ygUVd3V3YSBhZW1lYXRoIGdhbWVwbGF5

6 stripe teced mark u know wat dat mean

https://tenor.com/view/jinshi-jinshi-wuthering-waves-wuthering-waves-gif-10362054648336475803

https://tenor.com/view/cartethyia-wuwa-wuthering-waves-fleurdelys-gif-1522610615465363164

Sentinel resonator

[willow zephyr]

i'm a little sus of luuk but i do like him

[willow zephyr]

mr. sigma

https://tenor.com/view/waguri-the-fragrant-flower-blooms-with-dignity-kaoru-hana-wa-rin-to-saku-kaoruko-kaoruko-waguri-gif-16551697666066872446

[willow zephyr]

what if lynea is || secretly a fractsidus member||

[grave nebula]

someone in the office watch too much tiktok

brainrot

[proper gust]

||She is, but also isn't.||

[grave nebula]

dont read val finish story first

[willow zephyr]

just meet mornye and i think i want her if only cuz i think she knew us before

[willow zephyr]

i won't thank u

[grave nebula]

Luuk ||know us too literally said "welcome back"||

dis u can read since u already pass it

[willow zephyr]

she looks sad

[grave nebula]

[willow zephyr]

indeed

sus man being sus

he could be him

[grave nebula]

he's next patch along with pink haired girl

[willow zephyr]

he could also just be a normal person that resebles him to make us sus of him instead of the actual person

[grave nebula]

still im securing Mornye

[willow zephyr]

wait next patch

already

[grave nebula]

Iyup

Lynae banner about to go poof in 3 days

then Mornye banner

next patch is them 2

might get a 4* as well...

not sure yet

Luuk and Aemeath is gurantee 5*... but she also got reveal along with everyone dat in 3.0 character with Luuk in student card form recently.... but not Aemeath

if Luuk and Aemeath are 5*... then wat is she

[willow zephyr]

i no longer think shes part of the fractsidus

[willow zephyr]

4 star

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo_7LshRNos

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[lime bear]

Ahahahah yeah, I wonder what hoyo thinks now

[willow zephyr]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DTWFOx6DOrL/?igsh=MXZhdGw0OXgwOG10Mw==

Celestia map

Not real ofc

[lime bear]

Yes i know, but it's annoying in WuWa slightly more because while I have plenty of leftovers, I never have enough of anything else, but the saddest part of it all is that most of the materials are not convertable, in HSR you can convert majority of mats to otehr mats at a loss, but in WuWa especially, you can't convert ascenson mats, not just high grade talent mats. We can shit on HSR all day but at least they did som sensible QoL, even if high grade talent mats are also not convertible.

[grave nebula]

well i guess i turn blind eye on boss self over in genshin and other game i guess cuz HSR have QOL to convert it

[lime bear]

A friend of mine on another server was like "I didn't know they would bring her in so early" and I was like, "No man, they held back from bringing her in later.

[lime bear]

in genshin you can convert weekly boss drops

but not ascension drops

in hsr you can convert ascension drops but not weekly

I don't remember how it works in ZZZ XD

[grave nebula]

they also reveal her right after colombina reveal cuz they know deym well if they do first columbina gonna get shit on non stop and started another fandom twitter war

[grave nebula]

zenless have none

[lime bear]

well that's good

in WuWa they only allow basic mats to convert, and ONLY the opposite ones

[grave nebula]

so bit bullshit when u jump on kuro only when others does the same... and coming from u the one dat REPEATLY nitpick everything to shit on them.. but when its other game is okey

[lime bear]

I don't jump on Kuro only, when it's other game it's not okey

[grave nebula]

"fuck kuro for always request uneven amount of mats for anything" riiiiiiiiiight....

[lime bear]

the amount of QoL WuWa gets is crazy and i enjoy it, but it's kind of weird when they miss some basic stuff, meanwhile other ames do basic stuff and completely ignore QoL in areas that require more attention. there are no exceptions here

[grave nebula]

all of them does it but kuro specifically have to put there yeh

[lime bear]

Yes, because my autistic brain gets angry when it;'s not X0 or X5, I blame my brain for this, but otehr games do teh same, I was just playing WuWa at the time and my brain got agitated for that at the moment

[grave nebula]

well guess maybe its not a big of an issue if all game does dat and not many complaining about it i still call it bullshit when u SPECIFICALLY does all these minor thing call out only on thier game not others

it be nice if they add them

[lime bear]

You know what

you;'re right

[grave nebula]

i dont wanna be right just cant sit still when i saw some BS

https://vxtwitter.com/AKEndfield/status/2010184900696043957

Arknights: Endfield (@AKEndfield)

Arknights: Endfield Operator Combat Demo: Perlica

Lead us in our next step forward, Endministrator.

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jan 11, 2026, 3:00 AM

pretty okey not really a fan of caster style but still looks

moar hidden Lore

[proper gust]

Bangboo in FFXIV

[grave nebula]

eyyy Eos

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-zenless-wave-proxy-zenless-zone-zero-gif-15992137574186692704

the sword guy coming!!!

[grave nebula]

oof even with 300% drop boost still cant get the rare pieces

one moar slowly getting there

[grave nebula]

ohh i forgot we getting new 4* as well

dont think he enable lunar crystalize tho

[lime bear]

he does

Only Columbina will enable ALL Lunar reactions

other characters only enable their own designated reactions, like Auno, Ineffa, Lauma etc

[grave nebula]

YES!!!!! PLEASE let him enbable lunar

cuz on livestream bina was in his team as well so im sus of dat

[grave nebula]

Aino didnt

2 characters dat doesn't enable lunar so far are Aino and Jahoda, all other nod krai does.. so im worried since he's a 4* he wont enable lunar crystalized

please let him enable them

[lime bear]

enabling =! causing

both Aino and Jahoda give moonsign levels wich enable lunar reactions

they are not causing lunar reactions which is not what I said they do

Illuga wil lEnable crystalise, but likely wil lnot cause them himself

although the preview video did show a lunara crystal with his presence which means he could very well cause a lunar reaction

[grave nebula]

when i say enable i mean they can trigger it when they in the team

not moonsign lvl

i want dis new Geo boi can do it as well

[grave nebula]

demmit

4* not suprising tbh... with Zhibai is around

[lime bear]

the preview video showed him in a party and they generated a crystal with lunar properties

I thin Iluga will allow their generation, but they didn't specifically say HE himself can generate them

possible but we know how Genshin team decision making works

it's bullocks and no one there knows who is responsible for what

[grave nebula]

bina in his showcase deffinatly planned to confused people

[proper gust]

Really doesn't give me sus energy. Like at all. Man comes across more as that type "I'm sweet and caring and friendly but touch someone I care about and I WILL FUCKING END YOU". His eyes really give away that dangerously protective parent/older sibling vibe

[willow zephyr]

hes sus simply cuz of resemblence

blond red eyes

but since hes coming next patch no longer as sus

i just saw him and instantly went sus

[proper gust]

That's racist against blondes and red-eyed people! OMG!

Also I'm getting Evangelion vibes from the whole deal with the Exostrider which I assume is Lahai-Roi's "sentinel"

[normal wolf]

https://youtu.be/t47GgQNid_Y?si=zMEoI9RQyahr2Wgq

https://youtu.be/CIGXYuqUiRs?si=9B0O8nXlU3lGubSL

[proper gust]

Okay I really hate when things pop up for a moment and disappear before I can read them. Right after the Lynae reveal scene I got a popup menu "send message to chisa blahblahblah" that I couldn't even fully read before it disappeared, and now I can't get it to appear again

[normal wolf]

https://youtu.be/tHTslphk90k?si=wJwImzqDiYlsw-hn
https://youtu.be/59_opSqMtQM?si=7QZwc2IcVLz6boCk

[grave nebula]

manual click instead of on timer

[willow zephyr]

oh yeah i don't like the timed stuff

i can't read that fast >.<

it's nice that it creates a nice flow to the conversation and such but slow it down a little atleast

[grave nebula]

dis what i want

best pic to show how much potencial they wasted on...

https://vxtwitter.com/IAMCha0tik/status/2010234069163094285

Cha0tik (@IAMCha0tik)

ALMOST AT 100%! LETS GOOOOO!

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quick go pre-register so close to milestone to get free shit

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-war-basingse-hypnotized-brainwashing-gif-17917884

There are horses in genshin

[grave nebula]

riiight....

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/kaeya-genshine-gehnshin-impact-cute-hotie-gif-23467784

Cavalry captain

[grave nebula]

yeah.. of non existance calvary

dats the main point im trying to point out

https://tenor.com/view/breath-of-the-wild-link-zelda-game-fantasy-nintendo-gif-26884293

copied from botw... just take it

[proper gust]

Dunno what that means but wasn't able to find anything about it so I assume it must be a bug

[willow zephyr]

U seen avatar right?

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-no-war-there-is-no-war-gif-15884087966518847999

There is horses in genshin

[grave nebula]

moar so people dont care to complained about cuz most of them got used to hoyo game black screen white text goes away so fast, now they played wuwa they dont even bother anymore when it happen

so not a bug

[proper gust]

Oh no I think you misunderstood me. Immediately after the cutscene where Lynae tells Rover the truth about herself up on the roof and you're suppose to take the shortcut to go down and help her investigate, I climbed onto the ledge right next to me and immediately one of those context menus appeared like when you talk to an npc or interact with something, but it disappeared immediately so I couldn't even read it and only caught the name Chisa and what I think was something about messaging her. I checked all about the area but there was nothing to interact with at all, and nothing in any menus had anything to do with Chisa either

[grave nebula]

ahhh dat one

[proper gust]

Those sorts of context menus pop up when you interact with stuff or in cutscenes, but there was literally nothing anywhere to interact with in that area, and I hadn't pressed the interact button anyway I was moving via joystick tilt

[grave nebula]

can confirmed

owned both Flins and Nefer

u dont need them

u get better result with Eneffa and Lauma pair with ANY DPS dat match their element

[proper gust]

That's because Lauma's tits are so big

[grave nebula]

Nefer got ass to make up for dat

but not the point

[proper gust]

LEGS

[grave nebula]

Kit wise u dont need Flins or Nefer

[proper gust]

Lauma has BIG TITS so she also gets BIG DPS

[grave nebula]

not really she's not a DPS

she's a lunar bloom enebler

[proper gust]

Her tits contribute BIG to the party dps

Ineffa contributes because robot dragon god

Joking aside tho Nod-Krai's characters seem weirdly scaled

[grave nebula]

her dendro apps... is SO CONSISTANCE...
dat u do better by using Lauma plus any Dendro weak ass DPS
then Nefer fully builed kit maxed out

[proper gust]

Well, 6.x characters not just Nod-Krai characters

[grave nebula]

nahh its the same concept just scale by EM

[proper gust]

I mean nobody really wants Nefer for the meta, they want her because LEGS QUEEN KICKS SHIT TO DEATH

[grave nebula]

purely EM and on purpose to ignore character atk entirely

[proper gust]

Like she feels fun as fuck to control

[grave nebula]

nefer aint fun dats i say much looks cool yes... fun fuck no

[proper gust]

I dunno she felt mega fun to me to control

I wanted her so badly was gonna put her as my new driver for Nilou team but I failed to get her

[grave nebula]

very vulnerable to get hit as well... same as flins

[proper gust]

That feels like most characters tbh.

[grave nebula]

nah nah dis 2 is way above the bar

[proper gust]

No other Nilou team driver feels nearly as fun to me to control

[grave nebula]

remember back then when i shit on Eula how vulnerable she is animation wise and she can easily get hit????

yeh Nefer and Flins joined her

[proper gust]

ayato and Kokomi feel that way

Especially Ayato I feel like he gets tossed like a ragdoll way too much

[grave nebula]

Ayato not the case here why... he might be stay still on his E

but his E is huge enouugh it stagger everything

[proper gust]

I dunno I feel like a lot of dps characters feel like a ragdoll being thrown around when they not using any special interruption increase

[grave nebula]

even elite enemy atleast stagger once

[proper gust]

It's one of the reasons I don't like Neuvi gameplay, because I don't have his C1 so he just gets kocked around

[grave nebula]

Flins and Nefer is so vulnerable... they only have 1 stagger enemy move and dats their 1 heavy hitter move

beside dat enemy can hit them all they want

[proper gust]

Like I said, that feels like everyone character outside of specific interruption resist additions

It's one reason I enjoy Xianyun so much prolly, she spends so much time in the air that she avoids a ton of hits that would be knocking around other characters

[grave nebula]

other unit have moveset dat atleast push enemy away... or u move alot... or u stagger them

flins and nefer didnt have any

[proper gust]

Dunno I didn't have any issue with her myself, I just kicked the shit out of stuff and dodged when I needed. Flins I don't remember much other than not really liking his gameplay much

[grave nebula]

Mavuika got her bike dat pretty much stagger and throw enemy away... Raiden pretty much got altmost gurantee stagger, Ayato E also the same, Ayaka Clorinde got the movement

[proper gust]

Raiden gets outright interruption immunity during her burst tho

She's kinda an outlier

[grave nebula]

yup she got dat as well on top of it

wat im trying to say is Flins and Nefer is so vulnerable to hit and they got nothing to avoid them beside u dodge and break ur atk animation

[proper gust]

Meanwhile Ayato gets regularly tossed around when I use him, C0 Neuvi too. Clorinde I don't get tossed around as much but she zips all over the place so much that enemy attacks miss her a lot prolly like with Xianyun

Ayaka gets tossed around a lot if the enemy can't be frozen

[grave nebula]

yup but they still have some anmation dat still stagger or make them less vulnerable

flins and nefer got none

[proper gust]

And what I'm trying to say is that they don't seem to feel like it even if they acually are. And regardless, for me personally fun control is superior to better interruption resist.

[grave nebula]

which is make sense why Flins BiS partner is Eneffa cuz she give Shiled

[proper gust]

And besides, Nilou team doesn't really have any other fun driver options really

[grave nebula]

ohh fun is another topic of course and not the thing im trying to say, cuz why do u think i pick nefer and flins then those 2 broken unit

[proper gust]

Yeh I was strictly talking fun

[grave nebula]

im talking kitwise since the start

[proper gust]

Using Nefer as the lead onfield driver for a Nilou team woulda been hella more fun than Kokomi or Ayato

[grave nebula]

legit u dont need those 2 kitwise

u do better with eneffa and lauma

[proper gust]

Oh yeah that's what I was saying about the weird scaling of 6.x characters

The kits seem all over the place is a really not great way

[grave nebula]

i dont think its works tho....

Nilou kit just died

[proper gust]

It won't be meta but it would work

[grave nebula]

no no im not talking meta

im talking stright up nilou passive

cuz nefer disable bloom seed entirely

[proper gust]

Oh yeah Nefer's passive might conflict...

[grave nebula]

when nefer in team all bloom seed turn into nefer special seed

[proper gust]

I wonder if anyone has tested it? Cuz Nilou's bloom cores are different from regular ones

[grave nebula]

dats sounded wrong.. but it is wat it is

[grave nebula]

i can...

[proper gust]

Would be funny if it just allows both Nefer and Nilou cores to trigger

[grave nebula]

let see

i got an hour b4 i have to clock in

[proper gust]

That would suck but not entirely unexpected, Hoyo really seems to be averse to letting a Dendro character be an onfield driver for a Nilou team

[grave nebula]

pretty sure even before nefer came out there video of people tried nilou with her

[proper gust]

Yeh but beta previews are subject to change, only real way to know is test her out now that she's been released

Guess we just still stuck with Hydro onfield drivers

[grave nebula]

let see

[proper gust]

I'm curious tho cuz Nilou's passive requires her to use her skill to create that buff aura, so if it worked with Nefer it would need to override Nefer's own kit conflict

And we know overriding kits is possible from things like elemental infusions being overridden

[grave nebula]

yep nefer the one dat died

nilou kit alive

[proper gust]

Oooooh so she does work?

Also that means old character kit overrides new kit lol

[grave nebula]

Nilou bloom works but Nefer kit all out of the window

[grave nebula]

seem like it

[proper gust]

Yeh, it's similar to if you used Nilou in a non-bloom team

VERY NOT META but still can be fun

That's nice to know, if I ever return to Genshin I will have incentive to pick up Nefer still. Unless we get a more enticing Dendro character that can onfield drive

[proper gust]

omfg that looks so fun

[grave nebula]

i should removed the dragon tale from barbara

[proper gust]

I really would have loved to get Nefer for that.