NTE also included
#Gacha Gaming
grave nebula
now i want WuWa to add story telling the way Duet Night Abyss did it
ur dialog choice effect the conversation
not just 2-3 option end in same place like Genshin, be beyond dat stone era
junior arch
game awards winners are 90% jury 10% player votes, so it is still decided by the game awards suits
grave nebula
and might be too much to asked cuz WuWa fanbase somewhat still the noisy ass Genshin fanbase but converted... but i want games to not afraid to kill off characters
PLAYABLE characters
DNA show how its done
get to it
junior arch
my favorite thing about wuwa is the the msq is not hours of characters standing around yapping
grave nebula
as all game should be
Hoyo normalized dat
if u play any other game character dosent stand still like statue for 7min stright of yapin
rugged sand
Me rdy for it to release
grave nebula
im not
i have something i want them to change then they can release the game
like i said im okey with pity not carry over to next banner, but i still want it to be change
plus when we as player use teammates special skill/ult, i want the main character we control have immunity frame or pause the world (cuz rn character we control can get hit while we cast teammates abilities cuz the camera goes to teammates and we lose control of main character we playing) fix dis 
up to date with mordern gacha game Arknight 
dis aint 2021 no moar
junior arch
Me rdy for it to release
is alti's credit card ready for release though?
grave nebula
like i said im okey with pity not carry over to next banner, but i still want it...
proper gust
and might be too much to asked cuz WuWa fanbase somewhat still the noisy ass Gen...
2.7 bringing back Phrolova felt like such a cop out
Like you more or less killed her in 2.5, she was finally complete and content to fade away with her little fantasy world.
grave nebula
latest MSQ 
its not cop out when u know wats happening
like dis guy in DNA killed fr fr
willow zephyr
just finished genshin main quest
i really liked it
ignoring how long i felt locked into things >.<
atleast i had plenty of time today
grave nebula
yeh its quite long
grave nebula
willow zephyr
this was such a fun whole some quest i was enjoying it alot smiling and laughing
i want sandrone just so i can have her and columbina in a team cuz they are besties 
but || then the quest had to end with the dotore being an ass ruining everything 
||
nice set up for the future story atleast
i'm excited for the future
i think there was more stuff i wanted to talk about but i didn't wanna distract myself while playing and now i'v forgotten >.<
oh yeah
i want dodoco plushies
i have a solution to the current problem
|| bring klee to nod krai ||
|| i dare dotore to touch her ||
proper gust
its not cop out when u know wats happening
Phrolova isn't involved in the latest msq 🤨
I know what happened with her and why she's suddenly still alive and it totally feels like a cop out
junior arch
For anyone planning in going for buling s6
If only they would give jinhsi a new echo set that gave bonus to crit% and damage, she would be back in the top of the meta, but this should make her the strongest 1.x character again
grave nebula
dats why i wasted a sonata effect like relic in HSR a crit rate or Crit DMG set
somewhat universal set dat everyone can use
dat S6 not happening without costing the 3.x character so yeh....
willow zephyr
Beinging a 4 star we will get s6 eventualy 
grave nebula
Srry I'm being toxic but I'm started to literally hate the genshin ppl
dont be one of them then most WuWa players are ex-Genshin players
junior arch
It doesn't help much that we have some wuwa content creators rage baiting them too lol
grave nebula
alot of WuWa CC does dat for views
some of them are valid cuz they loved genshin and sick of people turning blind eye on the game
one of the toxic one but genuinely love genshin were E-than
but he cannot take Genshin out of his mouth or any hoyo game and shit talk the game 24/7
junior arch
Probably the biggest hoyo hate and rage baiter is saint
grave nebula
dis one most would disagree and call him a toxic one, but Tectone is the most non-toxic he just a dick and very stright foward
cuz dat bald really love genshin and u can tell how dissaointed he is
grave nebula
Probably the biggest hoyo hate and rage baiter is saint
Saint idc any takes he have are super bias nothing ever go right
junior arch
I really lost interest in anything tect does after he went political
grave nebula
there always something
final musk
Do u know tectone's history prior to genshin? Saying hes not a ragebait is insane tbh
grave nebula
i dont said he's not a rage baiter
i said he not a toxic one when comes to takes on Genshin
final musk
Oh idk what ur classifying as toxic or non toxic then. Cause in my eyes no one is toxic cause my bar is much higher 
None of the genshin/wuwa cc are even close to toxic
Or any gacha cc for that matter
grave nebula
cuz he's straight up a dick he being called dicktone for a reason
grave nebula
None of the genshin/wuwa cc are even close to toxic
now dats a take alright...
most of WuWa CC (dat used to be Hoyo CC) on EN side are pretty toxic just how extream
final musk
Whats even an example of toxic in the gacha sphere?
grave nebula
basically just mentioning other game just purely to insult the game/community for no reason 
altmost all WuWa EN cc does dat
valid comparison sure cuz to compare, so there reason to do it
final musk
Kk its just a matter of perspective then. I dont see it as toxic rather just general conversation since chances are theres literally nothing else to talk about.
Also most gacha cc are irrelevant and quite redundant
They all regurgitate the same thing.
grave nebula
why are u plucking Genshin out of no where for no reason and then insult its playerbase
smack do it ethan do it
like why
saint just hate everybody
so idc about him
final musk
Because if they mentioned another gacha, 99% of their fanbase would be like whats that? 
They gotta talk about something
grave nebula
both thier fanbase are from both game
junior arch
Depends on you definition of toxic, I think of anyone that 90% of thier content is farming thier hate viewers by insulting the thing they enjoy is toxic
grave nebula
just gotta shit on hoyo game for dat support point from viewers who likes to hate on Hoyo game
grave nebula
E-than literally hate farming Geshin and pop out like 4 vid in 2 days cuz Genshin imeginarium theater reset
junior arch
Ragebaiting is a form of toxic behavior
grave nebula
I feel like thats defined as ragebaiting, no?
technically is toixc
on purpose try to make people mad
BranOnline is one of the nutral one til now still
and of course cuz he nutral he got harrased shit tons by hoyo community
final musk
Maybe im just out of touch cause who are these ppl
grave nebula
less headace tbh u not knowing any of them
final musk
I also dont really watch any gacha cc cause i havent ever seen a reason to. But i recognize the top ppl in certain categories. Havent recongized any of those names
😓
Like genuinely how big is their view count
grave nebula
the only reason im still watching they still have takes and feedback dat actually good for the game and oppinion when coems to story and updates
final musk
Are these dedicated cc vs cc that jump around across many gacha games?
grave nebula
so i just ignore their toxicity side
final musk
Cause if thats the case, thatll probably explain why
grave nebula
most of them dosent stay on 1 gacha anymore after their expirence with Hoyo
which is good
final musk
Well most dont stay cause u quite literally cant make content off just one game
Theres just not enough content
grave nebula
cuz playing more game give u better perspective what is good wat is not
hence why most dumbhoyoshill are people who never play any other game beside Hoyo game so they thought its gold tier wat ever hoyo put out
grave nebula
Well most dont stay cause u quite literally cant make content off just one game
there is people who fully dedicated on 1 game
just vid gonna be repeat of same things
get stale real quick
like updated gear, new tier list of old tier list from years ago
more game on ur hand are better as CC tbh
BranOnline used to be Genshin only CC and it tanked his growth
since he no longger in hoyo CC program and play any gacha game he likes, bro move country and bought a house 
his channel on its best performance rn
final musk
Tbf if u want to grow as a cc, the best thing you should do is jump off gacha games entirely lmao.
grave nebula
TRUE
final musk
And pivot to something else
junior arch
Hoyo cc program prevent letting you positively cover non hoyo games according to some of the leaked contracts
grave nebula
yeh dat
if u sign with hoyo as CC u cant cover other game on ur channel
it tank bran channel for long time
grave nebula
And pivot to something else
but credit where credits due alot of CC only got their platform rn because they cover Genshin
community might be dogshit the company might be a scumbag... but the game is famous enough to give someone a platform to start on
i dont see anyone able to pull dat off with WuWa yet
dont discredit how massive Genshin used to be
final musk
Covering genshin when it first released made sense. Nowadays it doesnt
You're not going to explode to nearly the same degree
grave nebula
yea but it still got views
u just hate on genshin u get more views then glazing wuwa vid
CC admited this
final musk
Nowadays the trend is to just be a whale, pull, and do giveaways
junior arch
Genshin is still the game most think of when you mention gacha because they started gacha during covid
grave nebula
normie all knew genshin
game might be dogshit when comes to feedback and stuff but non of that matters when thier name already on main stream
normie dosent care
u mention gacha.. 80% would say genshin
u wont get as much explosion like mid covid era but u still get more views
when the MC not just aura farming in game... also aura farming IRL
as always JP side always the best one
must resist
junior arch
Humans better than weapons
lime bear
I want Fischl in HSR
lime bear
LMAOD
grave nebula
dis is how u kept players logging in daily
not even an actual anniversary, free S rank of choices til S rank before previous patch
last patch and current patch S rank the only one u cannot pick
Free skin and lobby scene plus both anniversary S rank unit from mini game
yup im buying all the skin from dis game if they treat player dis way
gawd deym maam ur just NPC u have no right to look dis good~
grave nebula
all character available on anniversary banner 
and banner didn't go away after getting one
free skin plus lobby scene for BP? say less
and discounted
rugged sand
X
grave nebula
https://x.com/i/status/1998619729175654709
rage baiting but the poster not wrong here
proper gust
not even an actual anniversary, free S rank of choices til S rank before previou...
I thought that was Faruzan at first lol
grave nebula
I thought that was Faruzan at first lol
dats the character dat i said carte like
dis one is who i said WuWa Mornye atk animatioin looks like
even Monrye ult
grave nebula
https://youtu.be/CPqBw5smCyE when Gacha idiots have a taste of non gacha game
thanx god these retards doesn't exist in Warframe
willow zephyr
finished second half of 2.7 update
happy it was short
means tomorrow i can finaly start 2.8
grave nebula
Lobby scene~
CLAIM~ 
junior arch
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8UTqd6b/
So when does part 2 come out? Asking for a friend
grave nebula
New Record hell yeh!!! 370%
rugged sand
rugged sand
So when does part 2 come out? Asking for a friend
grave nebula
hell yeh Buling~
https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-blackshores-consultant-buling-glasses-gif-4925516866998900168
junior arch
There goes 40 pity wasted lol
I was actually hoping for a 50/50 loss to guarantee 3.0
lime bear
wait she's a 4 star ?
grave nebula
73rd single pull
grave nebula
wait she's a 4 star ?
grave nebula
Kuro Game 5* and 4* u cant tell the difference
lime bear
in most games I prefer 4 star chacters
grave nebula
soon WuWa be like PGR u cant never tell thier rarity
fak
dont u cuck ma phrolova weapon now
junior arch
Well, I got 4 chixia and 3 buling and not pulls left lol... 
junior arch
lime bear
ROFL
grave nebula
the gap...
lime bear
me discovering Iuno and Phrolova both stay on fileld so I can slash away at everything wth slashy boy
grave nebula
lime bear
not everyone wants to read instrictions,
grave nebula
so when jinhsi rerun again i want her sword
lime bear
it's more fun discovering shit
junior arch
Seems s2 buling gets a big boost to er and no longer requires variation anymore, might try a string master on her if I can get some good er rolls
grave nebula
dont read, complained and talk shit about it instead 
lime bear
dont read, complained and talk shit about it instead <:AmeSmug:11077573907214541...
When did I talk shit about characters?
grave nebula
Seems s2 buling gets a big boost to er and no longer requires variation anymore,...
i still aint risking the pull
grave nebula
When did I talk shit about characters?
grave nebula
rugged sand
Btw u can buy 1 copy of buling in store for only 80 coral
@junior arch
SHE LEFT THE FARACTSIDUS AND CAME TO WWM
junior arch
Oh wow, i wish the cosmetics were not so darn expensive in wwm
junior arch
Red hair make for feel like I generally disgusting person who is worth less than the filth under under her shoes, the maid makes me feel like se is disappointed in me, but only because she cares, soo.... I guess it depends on what mode I am in
junior arch
The filth under her shoe is too clean to be near alti, it would become contaminated
grave nebula
Red hair make for feel like I generally disgusting person who is worth less than...
ohh both didnt gives a shit 
https://tenor.com/view/fluorite-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-no-no-gif-17903068594839167665
proper gust
ok.. so 4days all it takes to get everything
How did you complete it I only am up to 42?
proper gust
both account clear all on day 4
yes but HOW? I did the event fully all four days so far and only ended up with 42 today. Everyone who did it daily should be at the same number
wraith kettle
the pop group is finally coming to zzz lets go
grave nebula
yeh its finally got reveal
junior arch
how did that happen?
grave nebula
let see hoyotard crash out for dat
grave nebula
feels like good game deserve a win and its nmot about the ravenue chart
grave nebula
they going to say wuwa bought it
they will
retards gonna be retards
im 5years into Genshin Impact and still playing today i have a right to pray for its down fall until they wake the fuck up and fix thier fucking game
junior arch
but still, winning it over expo 33
rugged sand
Did best mobile gacha get announced yet? @junior arch
X
Cry for me
X
X
Aww
Well darn
grave nebula
https://x.com/i/status/1999315953587458277
alti u part of the toxic wuwa community
like legit
rugged sand
Again srry for the toxicity but I think it's well deserved did genshin not even make it on to best mobile games?
grave nebula
cuz they busy milking the game instead of improving the game
grave nebula
Again srry for the toxicity but I think it's well deserved did genshin not even ...
im part of the problem alti i said i hate MW game mode genshin added but im so in urdge to buy the Battle pass for the chismass outfits
game not getting any better but they monatized the fuck out of it
rugged sand
It's ok
If u love the game i guess its what counts
Also ill stop with the toxicity
I'm over it
😄
Super glad wuwa won something
grave nebula
If u love the game i guess its what counts
im anoyyed cuz i do love the game, but they sabotaging the game
grave nebula
01/22/26 official release date
yeh cant wait
white anvil
Big Ws to both Wuwa and Umamusume
Very big congrats to them for winning their awards!
white anvil
01/22/26 official release date
Finally being pulled outta the shadow realm
rugged sand
junior arch
Guess aera to busy with his new buds to answer my ping
sorry alti, i was zoned out
grave nebula
lol alti pulling aara ears
junior arch
i keep joining parties for grind farming in wwm, but 5 have failed so far on first boss
junior arch
also i had jeannie and xeno's stream on so i did not notice the pings
rugged sand
Yush
junior arch
well, we all knew uma was going to win
rugged sand
Me rdy
rugged sand
well, we all knew uma was going to win
Yeah
Had hope thou
Me happy wuwa won something
All that matters
junior arch
but still wining player choice was a suprise
rugged sand
I'm sure wuwa will win next year
junior arch
expo 33 only lost to bf6 and wuwa
junior arch
yeah, my great grandma was playing uma over the summer
junior arch
white anvil
like for DNA to win something?
grave nebula
grave nebula
like for DNA to win something?
nahh the red haired maid
she can smack me with her gun
any day
white anvil
ohhh okok gotcha
grave nebula
i welcome it lmao
grave nebula
dispatch is a good game but as a game itself
i wont give it any awards either
dispatch were ment to be animated series and it shows how good it was
it should be praise for its plot and story writing
white anvil
It's a shame it couldn't get into the VA category cus of its weekly releasing
Cus the VA work in the game was very well done
willow zephyr
got buling on first 10 pull 
now try for cantarella and/or phrolova
or want for 3.0 chars 
proper gust
I love how yall all getting lucky with Buling while me over here having done almost 30 pulls and haven't got her yet.
grave nebula
me and Aera takes 40 pulls to get her
Aera even got an S1 phrolova on top of it
idk if dat lucky
grave nebula
im part of the problem alti i said i hate MW game mode genshin added but im so i...
dis wat i ment by im also part of the problem @rugged sand
white anvil
dis wat i ment by im also part of the problem <@700494521200279573>
im really outta the loop on this
is this like a separate/2nd bp specifically for MW? or is it part of the original/2st bp??
grave nebula
im really outta the loop on this
is this like a separate/2nd bp specifically for...
separated 🙂 and more **expensive **
plus 2 banner for each genders if want both there seperate banner
MILKING it to the max
white anvil
huh
i really did miss quite a bit these last several months
white anvil
plus 2 banner for each genders if want both there seperate banner
did you mean 1 banner for wach gender? so like 2? cus that's all i can see from the pics u sent there...
grave nebula
did you mean 1 banner for wach gender? so like 2? cus that's all i can see from ...
yes pity not shared
currency not farmable in MW
paid only
🙂
grave nebula
i can tell u the outfit store is so optimized so well done so well design... and 6.1 MSQ u can feel the budget cut
grave nebula
if only she just as stronk as her popularity 
long awaited Zenless Idol faction
grave nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0BrX8idU44 YESSSSSSSSSSSSS
grave nebula
grave nebula
well we complained 2.7 and 2.8 are dried as fuck... 3.0 feed so much content we cant even chew anymore
god deym dats alot
grave nebula
my god i totally forgot how ThiCCC she was...
junior arch
Wow, wuwa added a 3.0 preview event in game lol, you can preview lots n of new 3.0 weapons in it
We getting new standard banner weapons, hopefully we get broad blade, rect, and gauntlets at least on par with eog and sm
grave nebula
3.0 have too much content its insane
junior arch
Mornye will be getting a pure healing set
Seems like she may actually be shorekeeper 3.0
grave nebula
so i was right... Fusion SK
i dont have enough asterite for 3 characters + Carte weapon
junior arch
Time to break that f2p
I just wish I lost that 50/50 then I would have been set for 3.0, no guarantee will probably lose
rugged sand
junior arch
my god i totally forgot how ThiCCC she was...
Also, where this from?
grave nebula
AetherGazer
junior arch
Dangit was hoping it was for endfeild
grave nebula
and JP VO effected new AetherGazer limited side story/event has no voice 
cuz of current Political issue between Japan & China
rugged sand
junior arch
https://youtu.be/1Lr41l-eJUw?si=J6iTNORHgaw9tss4
Is this same trailer from game awards?
grave nebula
https://youtu.be/1Lr41l-eJUw?si=J6iTNORHgaw9tss4
dis one pretty much an anime OP cuz how the region setting is
grave nebula
u can see the costum fight animation the character standing camera goe sby them at the end
it just anime OP
grave nebula
Plz never stop
PGR been eating good for years dosent seem to stop
hopefully it stays the same on WuWa
rugged sand
PGR been eating good for years dosent seem to stop
I tried it
Idk
It's like a LN game
Yes?
grave nebula
valid responce tbh, cuz PGR on start is very very slow the story telling expirence is not dat great
current patch redone all old story and revamp it
so idk when u tried it alti
on current patch or previous patch
dis the current patch dat come with the overall old story revamp and redone
i just relized alti just sent the same trailer i sent
but EN ver of the song
https://youtu.be/6x9yrBp_KzI the region looks
grave nebula
if u mean better by more extream and faster with all particle effect then no
wuwa halfway before reaching PGR screen covering effect lvl
but its getting there
and PGR are way way faster when comes to combat fights
final musk
Tbf i think its just different as well
Ive never really gone far in wuwa
But id think that feels miserable playing on mobile
But pgr works on mobile or pc
grave nebula
the system is very diffrent yeh
yeh i dont recomend WuWa on mobile ever
dont do dat why u hate urself why u do dat XD
PGR on mobile sure
orb system works better on mobile
final musk
For sure
grave nebula
tbh im not a fans of orb system but it works
final musk
Im just waiting for an open world that finally removes ult animations
grave nebula
the combat just fast pase and insane lookin
final musk
And has good combat
grave nebula
so im in
final musk
I just cant deal with ult animations anymore lol
grave nebula
wat do u mean the ult animation wat makes it cool as fuck
final musk
Its even worse when some are longer than others 
grave nebula
enemy and timer are pause so i dont see the problem 
i dont want genshin 4* 2.0
no animation ult
final musk
I just want seamless combat
No animation locks. Nothing
Azur promilia looks good but it has ult animations 💤
Same with endfield
i wanted moar ult animation
final musk
U can have cool animations without locking people to a 5s cutscene lol
grave nebula
🙂 but another one is much cooler
final musk
grave nebula
U can have cool animations without locking people to a 5s cutscene lol
dis one literally wat genshin 4* is
final musk
Pgr is probably the worst example of this too. That ult charges so damn fast
Yeah but genshin is boring
😛
grave nebula
dats why i loved when WuWa 4* all have animation on Ult
it felt good felt cooler
also it pause the game and the timer so hell yeh Kuro go ham and make as longger as animation u like im down if its make character i played looks cool as fuck
can aura farming for 1 min before the ult but if it takes 1 minute for animation i will only use it once at final move when enemy about to die
aint casting it multiple time not gonna wait for it
rugged sand
yeh i dont recomend WuWa on mobile ever
For dailies yes for msq/end game content or companion quest NEVER i dint think u will get the full enjoyment
junior arch
I have a 8bitdo controller for my phone, I think it is android only though
https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-mobile-gaming-controller/
I still can not to endgame with it though
But works well do doing dailies and casual stuff
grave nebula
wont dis get detected by their anti cheat
one thing about all these CN gacha game ANY form of 3rd party apps can cause u a ban
it does sounds extream but its China...
final musk
Eh
Its very rare
Thats the same tos across any game
Just trial and error and see what other ppl have used
grave nebula
i dont think any other game from other country ban u for a auto clicker to skip dialog
grave nebula
DNA also banned some user for using an FPS enhancer i was like watt... 
its not cheating they just want more fps for smoother game
final musk
Are we using a program for autoclicks? Like autohotkey?
Or built-in like logitech
First one tends to be a no-no
Second tends to be okay
grave nebula
apps always the case
which is wat i said ANY form of 3rd party apps can cause u a Ban
imo it is extream measure.. but im not questioning a method when its china where u somewhat getting control by ur own goverment wat u can and cant do so i just leave it there
final musk
I mean ppl will always be using it and only a select few are going to get banned
Unless theres a really egregious one
It has nothing to do with cn
grave nebula
of course not everyone got caught but when there a chaces would u take a risk
final musk
Its just typical anticheat
grave nebula
like moded outfits for all these gacha game are everywhere on YouTube and they not banned
grave nebula
but if they get figured out or reported they banned instantly
grave nebula
Yeah? Most ppl dont care lol
yeh until it hits them and their 2k account got banned
final musk
grave nebula
at dat point no use for regret anymore now was it
grave nebula
same logic as we do crime and we dont care as long we dont get caught
final musk
All im saying is that its not exclusive to cn games
If anything, theyre more on the lenient side
At least from what ive seen
grave nebula
oh yeh i know other game have same rules as well but not to the extrend on CN games
like wat does auto clicker or fps enhancer ever do any harm
was it netease didnt allowed ur build in Phone FPS enhancer/booster
dats not even an apps
how they detected all these
final musk
Is that actually happening to a lot of ppl? Or are you just seeing that from a few posts?
grave nebula
it wont be mejority dats for sure
cuz majority wont do it
i do want to mod my Gacha game and giver them outfits mods i found, but im not risking 2 years account and hours of progress to get nuked for a mod
final musk
U just need to find out whats flagged and what isnt
grave nebula
risk might be smol but risk is there, when i got hit nothing can be done to rewind that
final musk
There will always be certain programs that trigger the ban and others that never do
grave nebula
yeh ofcourse cuz there are people are getting away with it all those outfit modders on youtube are getting away
but i aint taking the risk even tho i want it
final musk
Welp
final musk
I mean again
They arent getting banned for autoclicking
Theyre getting banned for the x program they used
Which likely has other capabilities
final musk
Its impossible for them to know what other things they may be doing
grave nebula
its a common things in all these CN games, they dislike any 3rd party apps
grave nebula
wat ever u said aint changhing the fact dat they going insane on it
grave nebula
compare to other games tho? i dont see them doing these
final musk
What other games are u comparing?
grave nebula
pretty sure i post it here as well they even show a reason
grave nebula
a newly release game?
final musk
Yes?
grave nebula
i know games on long term does massive wave ban regularly
final musk
Especially during an early release
Rmt is hella rampant
Also with hoyo not even going after ppl abusing region pricing
Theyre being quite generous ngl
grave nebula
i thought they do dat cuz they also partner up with those websites
like LD shop and Lootbar
final musk
Abusing vpn to get cheaper pricing
Is a violation of every tos
Its just a grey area and not worth chasing after unless theyre a big spender
Bc at the end of the day theyre still getting revenue from ppl that likely wouldnt purchase otherwise
grave nebula
ohh dat one is ban worthy yeh according to thier ToS
they make so much money anyway they dont gives a shit
they busy focusing on how to milk thier player base more by doing bare minimum
ngl i felt bad to all Hoyofan dat will play the new Detective game Hoyo showed off last week or so
cuz its gonna be the same loop again
Ananta, NTE, Silver Pallace, Endfield... come on
final musk
Idk i have mixed feelings on that
- yes obviously its not all going back to genshin. At some point you cant just throw more money at it to make it better.
- Money is clearly going to other projects rather than to collect a check so yay
I think hoyo is basically taking the same approach as riot games
grave nebula
Im not playing... as simple as that, scumbag company dat would never change their way.. i have zero reason to support them im keeping my Genshin and Zenless til one day i drop them if it gone to far
final musk
And honestly im looking forward to their mmo that im sure theyll release
grave nebula
both hoyo and Kuro going for MMO gacha... its not gonna work fam.. cuz MMO highly dependable on playerbase and min maxing gear, if its a gacha its a worst MMO system ever
if its have stamina the game wont survive
cuz dats not MMO
final musk
Never played a mmo with gacha or stamina, have you? Lol
Its been a thing since forever
grave nebula
nahh cuz once i touched MMO im sucked in cant leave
im aware of my own dumbass attachedment
final musk
I think mmo are headed towards a more casual demographic
So i dont think the lack of grinding is an issue
grave nebula
Its been a thing since forever
no result beside all gacha games... and most of them not real MMO
final musk
Ppl will always have the oldschool mmo for that
final musk
<:PepeHmmm:1107757467724677150> no result beside all gacha games... and most of ...
I mean majority of kr mmo have gacha in them
grave nebula
when talking MMO im think OG style yeh u can farm indefinatly beside weekly boss stuff
final musk
Mhm kr mmos
grave nebula
and of course MMO combat u gonna have shit load of people to clear
final musk
Now thats a touchy subject nowadays because.... A lot of games we classify as mmo these days arent really true open world either
And most dont really have open world bosses anymore
grave nebula
yea its going away from the real term
final musk
Not to mention its a lag fest everytime
grave nebula
TOF tried to do it and failed miserably cuz of their stupid stamina system
when bosses need 25+ people to beat
final musk
I do want a more grindy gacha ngl. When is the modern replacement to gbf coming out
Oh yeah imo i think what modern gachas need is a coordinated raid battle or group content
final musk
Probably my most favorite thing from sinoalice
Pvp guild battles were so fun
Yeah the coop feature is pretty sad
grave nebula
u reminded me that Genshin have a survey and asked players and the survey came with multiple options and all the complain and the solutions are in that survey
they aware they just dont wanna
final musk
Yeah i mean whats new
Pso2 ngs has had all the feedback it could ever want
And its still shit
grave nebula
legit scumbag ragebaiting their own playerbase like a clown
final musk
Nexon has raised the middle finger to everyone for feedback
But we're still addicted
grave nebula
Hoyo aware people aint leaving even if they got treated like dogshit....
me : log into Genshin
final musk
In maple, we have ppl spending $3k/quarter complaining
They will complain and then the week after when new fashion gacha comes along
Theyll swipe again
grave nebula
TRUE
final musk
Mind u, this spending is for some qol perks and you have to maintain a certain level of spending to keep it
So ppl will legit spend on the shittiest rotations just to maintain it
The best for value is technically at $1,500 a quarter too. The 3k only gives u an additional title to flex that you have that tier unlocked
grave nebula
literally me get mad about their shitty milking monetization and minimim effort yet here i am looking at the most expensive Battle pass options cuz it gave me both male and female Winter outfits.... 🙂
final musk
Holy their skins are getting better wtf
grave nebula
on their new shitty ass game mode Malistia wonderland
final musk
Last time i checked all their skins sucked
grave nebula
the new UGC game mode
final musk
Ngl its one of those things too
grave nebula
this aint skin for ur MC
lime bear
Gatcha games when you don't have money
grave nebula
im trying my best not to buy it
final musk
Battle pass right?
grave nebula
AetherGazer already win me
final musk
Or 20!
grave nebula
Gatcha games when you don't have money
u mean u?
lime bear
I kinda want Buling so I can Bully bosses
grave nebula
atleast Genshin won something eyy...
DNA 1.1 new outfit banner
and free outfit apon log in
grave nebula
Also is it summer or winter wtf
game supposed to release mid year but delayed so summer update ended up in Winter lmao
their winter outfit gonna be mid june or something
final musk
Makes sense if its a delayed global release but this is worldwide wtf
grave nebula
they release all at the same time
they didnt do CN release first thingi, they have long af beta like really long
should fix the movement first b4 release but they lauched the game as is
brax said it well.. "they take everything from warframe and make it worst, DNA needed more time in the oven"
if Hero game being genuine and keep putting effort to fix thier game, eventually it get better
Kuro prove it possible with WuWa
final musk
Hmm i think its different scenario
DNA already has its niche audience thatll stay
WuWa was genuinely be fixed or DoA
grave nebula
WuWa was genuinely be fixed or DoA
u underestimate how much people sick of genshin and willing to play broken 1.0 wuwa and stay with it
final musk
Endfield will basically resemble AK in the same way with niche audiences. It wont ever stay as popular as genshin or WuWa
final musk
u underestimate how much people sick of genshin and willing to play broken 1.0 w...
Well i think most ppl like myself just opted to play neither lol
grave nebula
yeh alot do but alot stays as well
final musk
WuWa was so bad in the beginning so i never kept playing and same with genshin
grave nebula
genshin til today still have shit tons of players even tho its bleeding player count, with massive numbers their bleeding pretty much effect nothing to them.. dats why they stay the way they are and refuse to actually improve
final musk
Same with WoW or ffxiv. just the way it is
grave nebula
WuWa got massive spike on 1.0 but also looose shit tons of them cuz how broken the game was... 2.0 bring alot of people back
and wuwa getting improvement each patch til today and never stop
player count going up
well deserved i said when they put these much effort in game
final musk
I dont think anythings replacing WuWa anytime soon in terms of demographic
Soo if it goes down, itll be by its own perogative
grave nebula
kinda like how hoyofan shit talk PGR for not making any money... well yeh but the game are 10x more improvement then genshin ever did for last 5 years... and they make like wat?? not even a quater of Genshin monthly revenue
why are u being proud of playing a game with lazy ass dev dat exploits u for money
PGR dev passionate til today and all their new unit rn looks better then HSR in game model
passion VS profits
final musk
Insert reason for spaghetti code as to why x thing can't be done.
Meanwhile ive been hearing that same argument for mmos that were released way earlier
And somehow magically they end up being able to do it 5-10 years later
grave nebula
Insert reason for spaghetti code as to why x thing can't be done. <:TexasBlob:61...
legit dis is their responce
they said cuz its Unity
final musk
It is crazy how much ppl will defend development costs
grave nebula
PGR is build on Unity
Endfield built on Unity
even on thumbnail alone u can see the massive difference on improvement
PGR older
final musk
Like heres the thing right. Ppl always say stuff like oh, but itll require an engine update!
Well do it then 💤
final musk
Yeah rn i can only name like 1 mmo thats going through an engine change bc they want to ensure its future
Yet the top mmos arent doing it
grave nebula
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ngbo5GkdZQ there u go 3.0 livestream summarized there too much content QOL and stuff added i cant even sent all the pic in here or it would flood dis channel
they legit overdone for dis updates
appreaciate it alot but holy hell
lime bear
DNA 1.1 new outfit banner
They know tehir audience well
proper gust
white anvil
https://fixupx.com/i/status/1999208548224630908
grave nebula
Zenless community are moar chill with WuWa community then Genshin itself
lol dis is true male rover wtf u doin
if anyone missed it~
willow zephyr
finaly get to build chisa echo's and she wants atk% main stat 3 costs?
i just fully upgraded 2 havoc dmg ones >.<
willow zephyr
i don't know how chisa works yet but shes alot of fun to play as so far
does buling want atk?
did auto equip and it's what all the pieces are atm
grave nebula
Buling way to fun to play as a Support
grave nebula
3.0 live2D.mp4 wallpaper if anyone want
retard dev
https://vxtwitter.com/ZenlessWorld/status/1999640946485657935 i pray for Banyue main lmao
defuck ar those combo dis AetherGazer lvl combo
lime bear
lol dis is true <:ICANT:984845019846422528> male rover wtf u doin
that's why you don't play males
grave nebula
its more reason to play male
he literally doing a flip on the bike mid air
just the contrast are so funny
- Frover : pose elegantly looks hot on a bike..
- Mrover : "Imma do a fip"
lime bear
that's because the male doesn't have anything going for him
so hehas to do parlor tricks
to get attention
Disrespectful
Finally this game shows me teh respect I deserve
grave nebula
Finally this game shows me teh respect I deserve
u deserve non of them after wat u said prior lmao
grave nebula
lime bear
Looks good on him
grave nebula
its wats recommended for him after 5*
lime bear
probably BP weapon as usual
lemme check
at least wuwa gave 10pull worth of astrites
I was right
ALWAYS the BP weapon
GIVE US YOUR MONEY
grave nebula
and free outfit apon log in
https://vxtwitter.com/GrayRavenRadio/status/1999811433815560428 oh shit!! they actually looks fire
i need to reach rank70 and farm fantagio to put him in dat fit asap
black n gold
grave nebula
the usual PGR experience
grave nebula
junior arch
My free 1600 turned into a danjin. Welp at least pity carries over
lime bear
https://www.kkinstagram.com/reel/DSKAj3WCIvk/?igsh=eTY2cjh2M2gxcHJ0
I guess some people don't know some planets are tilted, but their north pole is always at the peak of magnetic exit
north is always north
know your physics
i like dat better
lime bear
it's literally irrelevant
if you use compass it will point north
even if it's to teh left
grave nebula
not dat i care tbh, where i am we dont really use them anyway
altmost never used tbh
lime bear
lime bear
willow zephyr
how am i suposed to build chisa?
grave nebula
good!!! time to be less toxic then smack, show ur kids good example as a father
junior arch
oh, what happened, i have not followed any drama in a while
willow zephyr
is 2.8 story long or do u think i can finish it in a few hours?
junior arch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2As2L6BhA
@rugged sand
grave nebula
he never gopnna stop farmin lmao
proper gust
God I hate that buzzword so damn muc
grave nebula
he still log into Genshin to check wats new so he have the right to shit talk the game cuz he keep up to date not left entirely
proper gust
<a:Giggle:1369830810001211402> he still log into Genshin to check wats new so he...
One could argue these Genshin hate youtubers are the actual "hoyoshills" cuz they're making money off of Genshin-related content 😏
grave nebula
One could argue these Genshin hate youtubers are the actual "hoyoshills" cuz the...
let them believe so
wuwa player just as shocked which is helarious
final musk
it's basically just circle jerking between those main games
and then the rest of the gacha communities hate them because most of them are stupid
grave nebula
still who ever won gonna get dogpiled and put any reason to discredit the win
final musk
i'm on twitter. I just don't follow gacha cc
grave nebula
i dont follow any gacha CC either cuz they are bias af
also love seeing Uma community calling out fake uma players who try to shit post WuWa rn turns out to be genshin players yet again
jokes are writing itself at this point
they should get an awards for sabotaging their own game image tbh
cuz they did all these for free
proper gust
I don't follow CCs in general tbh
grave nebula
what image
well wat ever image they have left i guess
final musk
I mean following CC is fine. But at least follow the ones that are good at their respective games 
grave nebula
i dont follow any CC period
final musk
proper gust
I don't count Jeannie cuz I started following her back when she was just a Skyrim modder
grave nebula
but unfortunatly as much as i tried to filter out all the drama on twitter on my feed... when drama happen everything pilled out
even tho i only follow artist and fanart account
grave nebula
mine spilled out alot
one of rare time there not a single drama post in my feed
usually there always 1 in middle spilled out
art and meme of course
okey found the first drama like 20-25 post away?
pretty decent i guess
proper gust
but unfortunatly as much as i tried to filter out all the drama on twitter on my...
Oh I see. I left twitter so avoid much drama, I pretty much ignore news and shit on bluesky just engage with moots and stuff
grave nebula
wat
grave nebula
Oh I see. I left twitter so avoid much drama, I pretty much ignore news and shit...
u can filler them out
proper gust
<:ICANT:984845019846422528> wat
Looks like another FFXIV meme about the glam restriction removal coming in a few days
grave nebula
as u see on mine got pretty decently fillered
some still gonna spill nothing much can be done beyond that
nice cosplay
grave nebula
Looks like another FFXIV meme about the glam restriction removal coming in a few...
ohh i hear about dis now all class no longger have glam restriction so u can wear wat ever TF u want
people asking dat for years
proper gust
Yup the only restrictions still in place are weapons, and gear that is different appearance depending on gender(I HATE)
grave nebula
oh yeh i just saw banyue post dats reminded me
how ur plan goin for banyue?
u started or
proper gust
Oh yeah I should actually start ZZZ cuz Banyue is up now
proper gust
I still haven't started the game yet just been so busy with other games. Haven't even logged into Genshin in like a month
grave nebula
yeh fair fair
proper gust
FFXIV, WuWa, Pokemon and irl taking all my time atm
grave nebula
idk if u had enuff if u start now kinda worried
proper gust
New players tend to get showered with pulls in these games it seems, both Genshin and WuWa did
grave nebula
reason why i said if u start last time cuz last patch got like nearly 30 pulls worth of polychrome
grave nebula
New players tend to get showered with pulls in these games it seems, both Genshi...
yes i included this into consideration
cuz most of Polychrome are locked on high end lvl
yes im opening the old story of Hoyo promising a 100 free pulls when game lauched but didnt say most of them locked behind account lvl that takes several month to get
i got to Proxy lv60 like 3 days? before their 1st anniversary.. and dis come from day 1 player dat neevr missed a day logging in
lol vivian
rugged sand
grave nebula
willow zephyr
i was wondering if i would get called senpai in english as well and it apears i am
grave nebula
it just senior in english
willow zephyr
still being called senpai
grave nebula
yeh cuz "senpai" represent seniority and being looked up but apparently in english word "senior" can refer to u as old person
weird
grave nebula
even in Koren "Sunbae" means senior, dats a lebel of respect and looked up too
not being called older
willow zephyr
i like chisa even more now having played the quest
now finished all yet
sad the black shores girl didn't make it
grave nebula
and she's Hawt me like her
leave it to Kuro game to make u crush over NPC instead of playable character lmao
willow zephyr
finaly done
willow zephyr
and with less then a day left i finaly started and finished the tactical simulacra event
like events i can just rush through if needed 
willow zephyr
got lustrous razor and gave it to chisa for now
lime bear
If I was to vote between WuWa and genshin, I would vote WuWa because they do more for community and genshin does dumb ass collabs god only knows why
willow zephyr
Wuwa is Just generaly better as well i think
Worst part about wuwa is convincing People to try it and not drop it before 2.0
rugged sand
grave nebula
i never gonna doubt or questioned people who said thier game lag when playing game anymore
lagged couple time mid instant fight failed, no lag got 11 sec to spare
lime bear
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8ye86yX/
streamers gonna be like, I don't need this character, but I have to pull so I can get a 4 star, meanwhile me, pulling on the only banenr I don't have char on because f2p XD
lime bear
junior arch
Since we are getting a main dps and a sub dps spectro set in 3.0, I wonder if lynae will have dual roles like peebs, or they just setting one there for a later release
grave nebula
live stream did show she have a toggle in her kit how u play her
grave nebula
willow zephyr
please let Hu Tao be usefull again
happy to see all of them getting buffs
specialy zhongli
it's ok that arcon is strong in lore and cutscene but i want them to also be strong in gameplay >.<
grave nebula
it's ok that arcon is strong in lore and cutscene but i want them to also be str...
their biggest enemy is their own formula, they setted too much on that bench wanna make Archon a long lasting support dat work for everyone.. yet here we are at the end of 2025 where all archon close to useless or they making new unit on purposed to not work with archon (non of lunar reaction character works with Furina)
dat greed caught up seem like
willow zephyr
wait we are in 2.2 now right?
wouldn't we have normaly gotten a map expansion by now?
i love honami in wuwa
grave nebula
wait we are in 2.2 now right?
2.8
willow zephyr
for my own sake i'm happy quest was kinda short cuz i wanted to finish it and go to bed at a reasonable hour
grave nebula
WuWa quest always been reasonable length the only long one are 2.7 where final battle at
willow zephyr
but yeah i wanted more time with chisa in the city before we went to the tower
grave nebula
wouldn't we have normaly gotten a map expansion by now?
ur not the only one asking where no map exspention on dis updates
all those budget goes to MW maybe idk
6.0 start was so good and actually brings hope for Genshin future
6.1 & 6.2 they goes back to wat they are