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[grave nebula]

debuff era

[proper gust]

Next patch is apparently triple banners, Carte/Ciaccona reruns and Augusta/Iuno reruns alongside each debut of Moryne and Lynae

Yinlin and Xiangli Yao found skeletons at the bottom of the sea

[junior arch]

wait, lol, so that mean we are almost back to chisa rerun already, i guess that means her havoc bane bis dps will be coming in 3.3ish

[grave nebula]

if they rerun those banner is dead

https://tenor.com/view/xiangli-yao-wuthering-waves-wuwa-ww-xiangli-gif-7994553250590520585

one of most fun to play

but who cares bout fun rite...

[proper gust]

They both rerun in 1.4 then thrown in the trash

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/meta-gopher-gif-27398208

also the mindset of "he's free character i dont want to pull him "

he aint free anymore dui

[proper gust]

Changli and Zhezhi still needed for Carlotta and Lupa+Brant so those prolly will get reruns

[junior arch]

i hope we get more stuff like this for upcomeing electro characters

https://tenor.com/view/dave-ardito-dave-ardito-anime-tik-tok-gif-26166721

[proper gust]

He was only free for one single patch

[grave nebula]

tbh there no reason to get Changli anymore

[proper gust]

And back then many didn't play the game so missed him. Besides that's a pointless argument when they gave him a rerun anyway, and also has no bearing on Yinlin

[grave nebula]

yeh yet u see people saying those line calling him free so they wont spend any asterites on him

he only free if u do the event

if u not there he aint free he still LIMITED character

[proper gust]

lol then may as well say Shorekeeper is free since new players got to guarantee her on a special banner a few patches ago

[grave nebula]

true!

[junior arch]

honestly, i can not recommend pulling and banners before 2.0 other than the obvious sk

[proper gust]

Changli still necessary for Lupa+Brant team tho?

[junior arch]

galbrena powercrept changli in that team

[proper gust]

Oh? Yall told me a while back when I asked about it that Galbrena isn't good with Lupa

Galbrena/Q-guy/Shorekeeper and Changli/Lupa/Brant are apparently the two teams

[grave nebula]

not really u better off picking galbrena on her place

[junior arch]

lupa is good with any fusion dps, but she does not derectly buff galbrena other than just buffing fusion

[proper gust]

So Lupa and Brant are useless now that Galbrena exists?

[grave nebula]

to put is simply Lupa and Brant not made for Galbrena

[proper gust]

Yeh, so they are crap now cuz you want Galbrena team instead

[grave nebula]

but these trio is better then the team they were tailor made for

[junior arch]

but galbrena personal damage is higher than changli in the mono fusion team

[proper gust]

Seems more like Changli was never meant to be the third member of that team and we just haven't gotten them yet

[grave nebula]

no no she was ment to be in that team

[junior arch]

well, galbrena still performs best in teh qiuyuan team

[proper gust]

So they made a Fusion team and then powercrept it like three patches later?

[grave nebula]

just galbrena personal DMG is so high she can replace changli in that team and still deliver higher result even tho their kit going againts each other

[junior arch]

the problem with the changli mono fusion team is that it is 3 hybrid characters and not pure dps character

[proper gust]

I still prefer Carte she's just too fucking broken at S2

[grave nebula]

u can feel Galbrena DMG fall off when u put her with Brant and Lupa

its only decent because Brant himself deal alot of DMG Lupa also decent

[grave nebula]

yup dis ^^^^

[proper gust]

Like even Aero-resistant bosses like LotS die faster to solo Carte than my other decently built teams

[junior arch]

i would say that brant is the heart of the mono fusion team, and lupa buffs the hell out of brant

[grave nebula]

Pyro trio were created to be quick swap Mono Fusion team with no dedicated main DPS

[proper gust]

Yeh they all the main dps

[grave nebula]

all 3 are sub

[proper gust]

I mean Brant is prolly a sub but I feel like Changli and Lupa are doms

[grave nebula]

Mono Fusion broke without Brant

NOT DAT

[junior arch]

i would be lupa's sub any day

[proper gust]

Oh you guys hear the leaks claim we getting a Cartethyia skin sometime in 3.x

Cute schoolgirl Cartethyia transforms into sexy teacher Fleurdelys?

[grave nebula]

either way works

i welcome it

[junior arch]

lol

time for extra lessons

[proper gust]

No matter what a Carte skin is an odd one to think about due to her being two separate characters in one

I mean with S2 they quite literally become two separate characters because Carte becomes playable without Fleur

[grave nebula]

there is AetherGazer character whole pretty much the same as Carte

start as smol swap to big lady with ult

she got couple of skins dat i wont mind if Carte get something similar

[proper gust]

I want black lace dominatrix skin for Cantarella

[junior arch]

lol with s2, you can just bring anyone you want just for funsies, that is how i play lupa sometimes just because i have her and no other team for her

[proper gust]

lol tho seems I missed the story event in Genshin, this the first one I've missed since starting the game in 2.5

I just have like, literally no drive to play that game anymore, especially with all the other big games I got competing

[grave nebula]

5 years i asked to kept the plot relevent event story in....

[junior arch]

maybe, but i think genshin is probably making the best looking characters they ever designed in the new content

[proper gust]

I still gotta do the 6.1 story, iirc it's not all that great after the amazing opening that was 6.0?

I loved the 6.0 story but I hear this one is more Rerir the most boring and ugly villain

[grave nebula]

6.1 they got lazy agane

non stop cutting corners

[proper gust]

Damn, and 6.0 was off to such a great start too

[grave nebula]

u can feel all the budget missing in 6.1 and all went to that stupid UGC game mode

[proper gust]

They gotta do better the game just isn't holding my interest over WuWa's story, Pokemon Z-A fun, Dragon Quest Remakes, Tales of Xillia remaster and the upcoming FF14 content

[proper gust]

I still haven't even unlocked it yet, I literally refuse to touch that pointless addition

[junior arch]

well, if you do stop playing genshin, you can just pull the new male in wuwa and pretend you are playing varka an not miss anyting

[proper gust]

I'd be slightly interested if the aesthetic choices were a busty babe look like Lauma or a burly hunk look like Fatui/Eremite

[proper gust]

Varka is such a disappointment lol, all the buildup over the years the game painting him as this hot grizzled muscledad and he's just another dorito-jaw prettyboy

[grave nebula]

and my prediction hits the bullseye

• 6.0 great start to pull people back in
• 6.1 release horrendous shit cutting corners and release most scummy monatization system tru UGC mode
• 6.2 livestream reveal super hype character people waited since game beginning to prevent them to leave (6.2 livestream reveal both Alice and Nicole in game model and cutscene+voice)
  yet i been called a hater for holding this game accountably

sorry for not being a hoyo's cock sucking hoe i guess

[proper gust]

6.0 also had scummy monetizatio with the addition of the level cap bullshit, paired with super mega FOMO addition in the form of the 8 weeks of dailies for cons, which turned out to be a case of "too good to be true" when we learned the catch is that we only get to pick from a handful of characters

[grave nebula]

the free cons one i accept it and its fair as rewards for player who open the game and play every single day

the lv100 cap one is BS still

[proper gust]

Yeh Alice and Nicole are mega hype for me but not enough to keep me hooked over all the other games I got on my plate

Especially since they aren't playable next patch anyway

[grave nebula]

its Durin patch they aware not many give a fuck about durin

reveal both mages to locked people in from leaving

marketing 101

[proper gust]

I mean I'd have preferred they gave him a little kid model to keep with his adorableness, but I guess they couldn't be bothered to make a new one.

[grave nebula]

6.2 trailer literally have more Alice and Nicole then Durin himself who is the new 5* of the patch

[proper gust]

It woulda been so cute to someday run a "playdate" team with Klee and a little kid Durin

[grave nebula]

he got new model

[proper gust]

Yeh but it's a teen boy model like Bennett and Xingqiu

[grave nebula]

all model since iansan are new model

[grave nebula]

nope not the same

they actually give all new character new in game model

[proper gust]

It looks the same in the gameplay footage

[grave nebula]

take them 5 years but better late then never

[grave nebula]

its not that much different just slightly taller more detail and not 1 to 1 copy paste model like xingqiu to bannet to kazuha

Veresa is most visible for new model different

eneffa of course she has her own cuz her thigh are not connected

[proper gust]

Yeh but it's close enough that I didn't even notice. And he was so damn cute as a mini dragon they really shoulda kept with that theme and given him a little kid model to match with Klee

[grave nebula]

Lauma also visible how much bozongkers they change on the new model

[grave nebula]

i want him to be a weekly boss then became playable

[proper gust]

Yeh Varesa had thunder thighs and Lauma had MASSIVE TITS

[grave nebula]

the model it self its not the same they also slightly taller

Citlali model

[proper gust]

But that's the thing, the new female models been very noticeable right away, any new male ones I've not noticed

[grave nebula]

not tall lady not short lady

middle height

[grave nebula]

yeh u cant really see with all the shit he have on him

[proper gust]

I mean the height thing has been around for ages, don't forget Wrio taller than Itto and Alhaitham

[grave nebula]

still same model

[proper gust]

I havent noticed

[grave nebula]

in natlan they actually put effort to give us new seperate model

better late then never

[proper gust]

But then Emilie looked like a new model cuz she had tall body proportions on the medium body model

[grave nebula]

yeh she's also one of them new touched up model

[proper gust]

Again, seems very noticeable with new models for female characters, but not with the males

[grave nebula]

but not much cuz she's early

[proper gust]

Literally none of the males released 5.0+ I even realized they had a new model. With the females tho I noticed immediately almost every time

[grave nebula]

tbh Flins dosent look different at all from all old tall male model even tho he a new model

[proper gust]

They coulda repurposed the loli female model into a male one for Durin, and unless they kill off Pulcinella they gonna need to make one eventually

[grave nebula]

varka obviously got his own costum model... even tho Wrio and Itto should have it as well

but... it just a dream

cuz they legally cant

[proper gust]

All the really great models go into ZZZ characters like Ben, Lycaon, Evelyn, Manato and now Banyue

[grave nebula]

im bein a retard playin a team who is the hardest character to perfect dodge and without a healer

Chisa lv40 so dont ask

[proper gust]

I don't have Qtip or Brant just been running her with Lupa and SK

[grave nebula]

dats moar then enuff

her BiS team Qiu and Sk

but Lupa SK just works fine

[proper gust]

Speaking of ZZZ tho, would I be able to guarantee Banyue if I finally actually start playing it this week?

Brand new player so should get a lot of pulls yes?

[grave nebula]

idk tbh... Banyue banner also cut in half duration

[proper gust]

Yeh that's why I ask. He's enticing enough that I'm considering it

[grave nebula]

i cant confirm u anything tbh unofortunatly.... there are shit tons of permanant event mode with poly chrome in it.. so i guess u can if u locked in?

[proper gust]

Manato too with his massive mantits that have jiggle physics, but I hear he's the game's equivalent of a 4star so not as missable

[grave nebula]

he is a 4star (A rank agent)

gameplay fun as hell but his DMG

makes u cry

i still using him cuz he's fun

if u willing to locked in... i think u can get Banyue

[proper gust]

Eh I don't care about damage he's got bouncing breasts that's all that matters

But Banyue got the sexy musclehunk robot aesthetic so REALLY digging him

[grave nebula]

u can grab lucia later date to future proff ur banyue

[proper gust]

Oh isn't Lycaon also limited?

[grave nebula]

no he perma

[proper gust]

God I wish this fucking WuWa event would stop replacing my eqiupped stickers with random ones I pick up

[grave nebula]

RIP

name change be change

[grave nebula]

do u really need to asked.....

done yapping... doubt they read it but there was an attempt

[junior arch]

Pretty sure they use ai to collect surveys data and decide if anything in it is worth the effort to address

But most ppl on these surveys have already convinced themselves that their favorite game can do nothing wrong. So probably most real criticism just gets buried

[grave nebula]

aite finaly can replace healer in

[grave nebula]

🥲

great friendship team when in term of power lvl but dear god both these DPS are most vulnerable unit ever release (beside Eula)

need a shielder or a healer

eyyy its pretty cute~

god deym...

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd9R4BGqkGA

other game takes note stahp being lazy ur character is ur main sold product

[grave nebula]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1p8s0ua/i_made_a_list_of_future_14_potential_characters/

for Hilda

Do it more often pliz if its makes the story 10x more impactful

[grave nebula]

deym aethergazer turn 180 after they seperated from Yostar

https://youtu.be/R5V3iRvNogk

aite im saving my pity... she fight with a stand

https://youtu.be/llZBJOV10dk ite im saving my pity

all-element support/dps hybrid

[junior arch]

omg omg omg, the auto supplement thing in the talent tree thing in wuwa is the greatest thing ever, no more menu swapping lol

[lime bear]

yeah

HSR did it first

Genshin would never

[junior arch]

lol, why does genshin not borrow good things? best feature ever

thank you hsr

Lupa, you have no business having that much er, lol. but that happens with r3 lustrous razor lol

[willow zephyr]

seems columbina quest doesn't reset on a specific day but instead 1 week from when u did the last one

[willow zephyr]

echo storage is finaly full

[rugged sand]

Same

Throwing a few out

Praying new chara wont use them as part of a new 3set

[willow zephyr]

i wish they would let us convert them into exp mats

it's why i got full cuz i was farming for mats

[grave nebula]

u both not having full echo storage everyday?

https://tenor.com/view/anime-spy-x-family-anya-forger-blinking-eyes-blink-gif-25561803

[grave nebula]

echo less teced field just tubes

[rugged sand]

It's full everyday

[junior arch]

i got to the point that i started doing the mass turning them into other echo thing with all the "dead" sets or of characters i have finished min/maxing that are not good on main stat, it is easy enought to get echos so i am not worried about not havin genough, i actually ahve about 300 unborn echos in backpack

[grave nebula]

same

[rugged sand]

@willow zephyr did Jeannie react to wuwa vid

Ur vid

[willow zephyr]

yes but i missed it >.<

[rugged sand]

When?

[grave nebula]

everytime when Hoyo game on shitty ass patch... time to create drama with other game

[junior arch]

i missed most of her subathon thing she did

[grave nebula]

always the same loop all over

[rugged sand]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1994603472365449436?t=fERCmmjB_N6dk-jq_n7goA&s=19

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

"Got a long bucket list. Good thing I've got time to check every box!"

#WutheringWaves
#Lynae

X · Nov 29, 2025, 3:05 AM

[grave nebula]

mid subathon yeh

[rugged sand]

https://x.com/Wuthering_Waves/status/1994602214338519336?t=Okg5qdkWpLJTwD2M57eapg&s=19

Wuthering Waves (@Wuthering_Waves)

Resonator Preview | Lynae

Attribute: Spectro
Weapon: Pistols

#WutheringWaves
#Lynae

X · Nov 29, 2025, 3:00 AM

[grave nebula]

those u go aera an actual character reveal with element and wepon

[rugged sand]

When is that?

[grave nebula]

not sure if its the last day or 2nd last day cuz vid sub got cut in multiple section

[rugged sand]

Now I definitely need phoebe

[grave nebula]

vxtwitter

[grave nebula]

does it say she need phoebe?

no way they make her rely on pheobe again

[junior arch]

need to know what role she is before know if peebs will work.. also peebs as a sub dps makes me sad

[grave nebula]

on NA i make her main DPS

she dual role tbh dats why her DMG not dat much

[junior arch]

i was hoping for her to be a frazzle main dps so that chisa can be used with her

but that would mean we would need peebs, and peebs as a sub dps take away everthing that make main dps fun

[grave nebula]

Chisa all black outfit goth like hime cut proper mannered girl looks
Lynae white top white jacket full blonde full of accesories full on Gal rabel looks

cant be more perfect pair then that

[junior arch]

the second drip picture actually made me more hyped for mornye

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/tk7uo4IvCcs

moar free S-rank unit

say less

day 1 log in free Skin, day 3 free lobby animated

eating good baby

[rugged sand]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TCWjSlATz44?si=gAQ9hb4_rLZXDnnD

Big blade/fusion

Odd since we just got galbrena

[junior arch]

she may be some kind of support maybe?

[grave nebula]

she dosent give DPS vibe either

watch its Fusion SK

dude....

[grave nebula]

thought just cross my mind.... just my suspision
next rover is Fusion.. and she looks majestic af

is she the next sentinal resonator?

nvm her teced mark only have 5 stripe

there goes my theory

[lime bear]

Name a video game that doesn't copy anotehr game?

copy/pase drama is so dumb you should avoid it lest your braincells go brr

I prefer a game drama "Who does [game thing] better?"

[proper gust]

Maybe she's the intended third for either Lupa/Brant or Glabrena/Q-tip team. Also seeing a lot of people theorizing Lynae is the Jinhsi support that kept getting rumoured throughout all of 2.x

[proper gust]

One thing to note is that the CN name for the Fusion attribute is "Thermal" which fits with the climate situation of the region.

[junior arch]

Jinhsi would need a coordinated attack non spectro sub dps that offers +50% skill damage and a new echo set to be relevant with new characters though

[grave nebula]

arent Cantarella set already works wonder?

but the real issue is dat Skill DMG amp

feels like Zhezhi already fill dat role way to perfectly so i dont see them releasing character too similar to her

[junior arch]

No, I mean jinshi would need a new echo set, 1.x echo sets are really weak compared to newer ones

[grave nebula]

ahhh for Jinhsi then yes im down for that

rn there only Skill DMG 2 pieses but 5pieces are Galxio

havin spectro one would be nice

[junior arch]

All 1.x character would need new nightmare echo sets to be meta going forward

[grave nebula]

would they ever make Echos set like HSR crit buff set?

universally works on everyone

rather then just Skill DMG at the end just stright up Atk

[lime bear]

characters in WuWa have like 6 talents that buff them pretty heavily

[grave nebula]

same goes to HSR character

its called passive

[lime bear]

yes but the talent buffs in HSR are slightly lower

[grave nebula]

wat u mean lower???

[lime bear]

I mean slightly lower

keep in mind HSR max level is 80

wuwa is 90

the difference is visible

[grave nebula]

lvl dosent matter HSR character crit rate crit dmg goes to 300% in combat

so all those are irrelivence

crit buff echoes just benefits everyone which is good addition, wont be the best atleast everyone can use it

rather then the atk echoes set no one uses

[lime bear]

I'm not saying echoes now are fine

I'm saying hsr characters flat stats on talents are slightly lower but you as usual go ballistic

[grave nebula]

who's goes balistic?

all i said is asking u wat u mean they lower

[lime bear]

if you don'y know teh meaning of "slightly lower" check the dictionary

[grave nebula]

dictionary dosent matter the point is i asking wat u mean its lower

[lime bear]

I mean exactly what I said

slightly lower

[grave nebula]

Slightly or heavily dosesnt matter

[proper gust]

Hmmm....

[grave nebula]

okey... from traces/skill tree HSR

• Acheron 24% Crit DMG
• Phainon 24% Crit DMG + 12 Crit rate
• Yunli 6.7 Crit rate
• Evernight 24% Crit DMG + 12 Crit rate
• Jingliu 32% crit DMG
• Saber 12% Crit rate
• Seele 24% Crit DMG

and... traces skill WuWa
Across ALL character that have Crit Rate or Crit DMG passive (one character only have 1 or another)

• 16% Crit DMG
• 8% Crit rate

wat u mean lower

reason why i asked cuz im 10 000% sure they have the highest scalling crit tru traces/passive across ALL GACHA game i ever seen

atleast across all the one i have touched

which is why powercreep in dat game are horrendious beyond saving

yes i purposely put Yunli in middle of these 2 to show the game main issue

[junior arch]

The more I see of her, the more intrigued and hyped I become, she will probably be a fusion support but she has become my new favorite of the drip

[proper gust]

It's really intriguing how similar she looks to pre-villain Phrolova

It's prolly another Pantalone/Baizhu situation where the resemblance is purely coincidence(I say that but we still don't even know there cuz Pantalone is still a mystery) but still intriguing all the same

[junior arch]

Lol sounds like a classic anime school plot, cristoforo and phrolova invade a high-school pretending to be top students, so rover and chisa enroll as new exchange students to uncover and foil their evil plans

[proper gust]

lol inb4 half the new cast are more of Cristoforo's "creations" like Avidius

[junior arch]

Can not wait for the school student president arc

[proper gust]

Crackpot theory time! Moryne is "The Excellency" and her appearance is due to the injuries sustained when Changli burned down the Sonoro at the end of her CQ

[grave nebula]

The Excellency likely to be the Fractsidus member mentioned in the diary written by Wuli

so...

i wanna see changli meet them in game

maybe a fight would be cool

she break all mechanism just by 1 touch

[junior arch]

https://youtu.be/vMnwMLghCIU?si=4K8Mnojlv-b_mbUH

[grave nebula]

morNyan

film club episode gonna be something

[grave nebula]

hellyeh great mind thinks alike

noooooooo!!!! Augusta is back

aint got asterite for dis

[junior arch]

Yeah, after chisa took all my astrites, I will not be getting s3 cartethyia

[willow zephyr]

New chars over duplicants

[junior arch]

But kuro is a bunch of jerks putting the 3 best teams in back to back to back rerun banners like this though lol

[grave nebula]

and didnt rerun old unit lol

but im still submit to religion of new unit over dups

[willow zephyr]

ffs

i deleted genshin again

it's not like an easy thing to do on accident either

i have to scroll down to the option and then confirm it

but it's like i did it on auto pilot

i just wanted to close the game

[final musk]

look like it's time to quit

uninstalling twice is crazy work

[willow zephyr]

but i like playing

[proper gust]

Yeh I know, and the way they're described in the diary points to them being a man, specifically Cristoforo. That's why I said crackpot theory

[proper gust]

I want her S3 but I still need Ciaconna so she's gonna be taking ALL my pulls

[proper gust]

I logged in the other night cuz I was gonna do the 6.1 main story but then logged out without doing literally anything not even dailies cuz I just have like, no fucking interest in the game even the story anymore.

[willow zephyr]

i know the feeling

tho i don't feel that way for genshin atm

[proper gust]

I think I just got too much other stuff interesting me more. WuWa, FFXIV, Pokemon Z-A, just those three alone take a ton of my time for leisure activities, and I don't always wanna spend that time on video games either.

[willow zephyr]

understandable

[lime bear]

Perfectly understandable, spend your free time however you want, just drop by to say hi every once in a while

[proper gust]

I meant Genshin, the story just isn't enticing me enough to bother actually putting any time into the game, I did the eight weekly shit for Baizhu C1 and then basically didn't login anymore

lol tho WuWa really seems to hate Electro and Glacio

[lime bear]

yep

genshin also used to have cryo problem

but they solved it with nukes

[grave nebula]

skirk with escoffier is not a solutions tbh

just another fomo cash grab cuz 1 got nerf so hard without another

[willow zephyr]

goat lady in zzz has cut my clear time to 8 sec

i don't even know how she works i just click skill and switch to yixuan

[grave nebula]

most broken rupture buffer

tailor made for rupture unit (useless in team without rupture unit NOT SURE true or not)

[lime bear]

I'm finally up to date with WuWa story

can't say 'm enjoying it

Chisa's story was actually entertaining after all that heavy and boring stuff in rinascita and black shore

all the more reason to grab Chisa

[lime bear]

What the fuck is this?
Electro damage buffs, trial is fusion.

[grave nebula]

reading is hard i see

[lime bear]

not hard

I just found it weird

[grave nebula]

its not

cuz its not a buff

reading is hard apparently

[lime bear]

the one thing I like about updated echo absorb being an AOE now is that I an postpone absorbing all echoes of bosses I fight until I'm done and then absorb all fucktns of them

and yeah

Phrolova's idles are my favs

I'm very much into classical instrumental music

[grave nebula]

demit... im 10 sec slower then last rotation

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

[lime bear]

not enough coffee

HIMEKO !

[grave nebula]

i swear dis game gonna make me spend on outfit of character that not even fit my taste

deym chill

im weak to cosmatic

https://tenor.com/view/aether-gazer-selene-gacha-gun-booba-gif-3057904964262047564

[lime bear]

the maido outfit is hmmmm but the casual summer one is not that great

[grave nebula]

well u missed most of the outfit cuz it just a splash art

in game model looks insane

[lime bear]

I'm not a fan of this kind of outfit

[grave nebula]

neither do i but yet my hand is tingle to purchase it

[lime bear]

want to know why?

[grave nebula]

this character dosnt fit anything of my taste

[lime bear]

I can point you to the exact spot

the magical place many men adore

the tumy

[grave nebula]

dat splash art really didnt do the outfit justice

[lime bear]

most splash art doesn't

[grave nebula]

the abs have dimentions

[lime bear]

the point of "weaker" splsh art is to make the user check the goods and get spooked

[lime bear]

it is a tummy issue

I have no idea why

[grave nebula]

even the cloath looks better

[lime bear]

but many men just love the womens tummy

[grave nebula]

and of course... the lobby costum animation

[rugged sand]

https://youtu.be/3Vj6qfc6hU8?si=EDANaR7_kS6m5uTp

My god this shit looks amazing

Plz come out now

[grave nebula]

WhenField

https://vxtwitter.com/Msyk_Amakudari/status/1995032658917900641

あまくだり (@Msyk_Amakudari)

後ろから眺め続けた時の特殊モーションが可愛すぎる
#エンドフィールド #Endfield

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Nov 30, 2025, 7:30 AM

unity btw

pity not carry over kinda sucks but featured banner lasted for 3 patch so they didnt go away when next 2 new banner showed up

120 max pull for full gurantee as well rather then 180/160

https://tenor.com/view/patiently-waiting-waiting-waiting-patiently-still-waiting-gif-3590841176648399679

release date? come on~

[lime bear]

no carry over is a problem on it's own, if currency farm is slow they are fully locked on wallet draining, as much as I understand that this is a business, being f2p unfriendly will limit the amount of players playing the game

if I understand correctly weapons are pulled from the character banner so it's even more spending

I don't see a benefit to this

even if banners last longer if the currency farm s slow as fuck losing 50/50 without carryover is only going to make people frustrated

imagine you are farming for thsi specific character and your farming goes slowly even if you do everything

and you lose to time

[junior arch]

does it still have the same trash pity system for last beta?

[lime bear]

with full pity being 120 I think it's fine

hoyo games are 180 and I think WuWa is 160 ?

[junior arch]

it is not find, if you run out of pulls at 110 before banner ends, and you dont get charater, the game just throws all 110 pulls you did in the trash and you have to start over at 0 for next banner

[lime bear]

that's a no carry over issue, not the pity issue

and yes it will suck hard

because people on f2p wil lspend a lot of time to farm and be left with nothing

this will only frustrate people and make them move away from teh game

[junior arch]

only thing that make me hesitant to even start it is that banners dont carry over, game looks good otherwise

[lime bear]

keep in mind banenrs last 3 times longer than otehr gatcha

but no carry over is an issue for me

I waited half a year for Roccia to rerun to get her

[junior arch]

long banners is good aslong as you can still receive around 150 pulls per patch cycle

[grave nebula]

alot said its pretty similar to the original arknight

[junior arch]

i still remember Jenazad was doing hardcore defending the non carry over because you can get the character at 60 pull if lucky and that the non carry over was fine, and that just turned me off on his content

[grave nebula]

he's not wrong tho

cuz banner lasted for 3 patches

not like other game we pained banner gone when new banner came in

not carry over sucks ball but with triple duration i can see jenazad justified it

also jen crash out alot

[junior arch]

the non carry over is bad though if you dont win you 50/50 within 115 pulls, then you have no choice but to spend or trash your progress

[lime bear]

on a side note I have to praise Kuro for doing the right thing by me and possibly other players in the same situation:
standard weapon banner, the currency Kuro is giving for Standard banners is very scarce regardless of how many events do have the currency, this is something I pointed out in the very first survey they made ad it seems they didn't listen. The problem is, I roll for weapons on standard weapons banner, I basically ignore standard character banner. And still, the last 5 tar item from standard waepon banner, despite me rolling on it every time I got currency for it ( all events) it exceeded 6 months and stopped tracking correctly, meaning my weapon banner pity was ||97||, after confronting Kuro via feedback, they sent me an email with 1 free currency and I was told to roll it, I got the weapon rectifier 5* I was farming for nearly 7 months on and exceeded 80 5* guaranteed drop. I was also told they will re-evaluate how standard currency is distributed because of this situation and apparently it happened to more than 1000 players this year.

[grave nebula]

me no like his take no more when he gate keep WuWa from improving

[grave nebula]

no no... 60 is where u lose ur 50/50

120 is gurantee

[lime bear]

ark has 3-6 star characters right ?
3*-4*-5*-6* ?

[grave nebula]

pity is lower but pity dosent carry over

[junior arch]

but if you loss at 60, you have to got to 120 or all you pulled is just thrown in the trash and boo hoo on you for trying

[lime bear]

60 guaranteed 5-6 star is great but without carryover and slow farm it will become a problem

[grave nebula]

yes pretty much, hence why i somewhat agree with Jen defending the pity not carry over cuz the banner lasted for 3 next banner dat came in

[junior arch]

if you run out of pulls before 120 you have to spend or be ok with loses all your pity

[lime bear]

I fear no carryover will make Endfield and Endark in teh end

[grave nebula]

if its gone when new banner appear then nahh, there no defending the pity not carry over

x3 the banner duration pretty much u will get to 120

[lime bear]

if they want to cater to whales then even whales will have a hard time spending if the 50/50 will be rigged

[lime bear]

initially yes, but later farm will be very hard if what the OP said teh farm is slow

[grave nebula]

tbh the only L they have rn is pity not carry over, beside dat all their stuff and lower pity and gurantee are way way better

[lime bear]

if tehy enable carryover I would be fine if guranteed pity was 80/160

even with 90/180

I would be fine

[grave nebula]

they doing something different for their own sake... not all wanna be the same and following hoyo blueprint

[junior arch]

yes, this game looks amazing, but i now will will have to plan out spread sheets for every banner to make sure we can plan all our pulls out for the duriation for the banners to avoid loss any pulls to non carry over

[grave nebula]

like i said the only reason im okey with it not carry over cuz the banner dosent go away with new banner showed up, not great but acceptable if it lasted 3x longger

[grave nebula]

💯

BIGGEST issue

if u didnt reach the character its all burn

3x banner duration cant save dat

rather then pity not carry over.. im more worried of this

[lime bear]

like I said

[lime bear]

this will test f2p players patience

[grave nebula]

cuz the model of the game encourage u to build stuff and spend time perfecting it like a factory

so lazy casual aint gonna get their free currency

im worried how much time attantion this game going to be for atleast enuff currency to get 6* unit for whole banner durations

if its very demanding then there will be alot of casual noises

[lime bear]

you gonna need to read afuckton f wikia to figure out your playstyle before you start playing the game i guess

[grave nebula]

dat how it used to be back in the days

tbh i dont mind then nowdays game literally getting handed everything and still not satisfied

[proper gust]

Just ignore the elements of the trial people and use whoever you want, I've had no trouble at all just using Cartethyia for everything

[rugged sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLNmpvXImZ4

best reactions ever

fck all the American reacters

[proper gust]

https://tenor.com/view/who-cares-snatch-game-ru-paul-drag-race-gif-4943748

[junior arch]

a lot of western influencer morons were attacking kuro for have chisa say senpai in the msq with the usual clout chasing nonsence

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/senpai-anime-tease-funny-gif-15780033

[proper gust]

Sounds stupid. I stand by my gif

The only "influencer" who's opinion matters is Jeannie's 😏

[lime bear]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1995179409246978337

Gacha Zone (@Gacha_Zone)

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[grave nebula]

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/simp-simping-yelling-meryl-streep-shouting-gif-17852144

[junior arch]

lol

[willow zephyr]

since i'v not progressed story after galbrena

calcharo is still standing looking out over the stadium in septimont

[proper gust]

Back in my day the word was stan not simp

[grave nebula]

stan still around just worst meaning

simp not as deranged minded

[rugged sand]

Imagine simping for females

I simp for my luno/chisa and SK

[grave nebula]

are they not female? hello?

[rugged sand]

My god these genshin fuckers have to chill

https://x.com/cracked9369/status/1994983025143316698?t=CntEvEZdQrZ-2NVM4UgGcg&s=19

Fate Fixer (@cracked9369)

This person used AI to remodel the real Art posted by Kuro. And then he proceeded to accuse Kuro of using AI.
I have proof.
Look at Mornye's hair.
The Green Marked one is from the Real Picture Kuro posted.
The Red one his this person's own AI edit.

X · Nov 30, 2025, 4:13 AM

Really?

[rugged sand]

Above female

Goddess

[grave nebula]

told chu too ignore them, u cant reason with them at all

i got harassed for giving feedback about game issue and how to improved

these fuckers thinks Genshin is the greatest game in the universe and genshin create universe apparently

legit u cant reason with them at all

[rugged sand]

I honestly have nothing against genshin since I never really gave it a chance so I don't think I can really trash them but seeing this going on for weeks now makes me wanna trash talk them

[grave nebula]

well i can and everytime i trash talk them its valid issue in the game, when i said it cuz i want it changed why i log in everyday and maxed out everyone friedship then if im not genuinely like the game

these people are the main issue why Hoyo game across the board are not improving

sending the wrong message

Legit alti saved urself from reading all those retards HoyoShill account, they gonna find anything to start drama and hate campaign on WuWa

even rn Endfield already cathing flames from these dumbass

game not even out yet

bet chu when Ananta or NTE came out one of them gonna get hit by Stupid Genshin player like Infinity Nikki did, make whole community looks worst

[proper gust]

To be fair shitty fans are kinda in every piece of media. I mean look at how gross the Silksong fans were getting before it finally got announced a release date, or the general toxicity of the Undertale/Deltarune fanbase.

[final musk]

this isn't even shitty fans. this is just a normal discrepancy in artwork

maybe it was ai. maybe it wasn't

but the quality check probably should have been there

[proper gust]

I was referring to alti's comment about the shitty fans who hail their beloved media as some gift of god while trash talking other media

[final musk]

I mean sure, but in this case. it's more the irony of gacha fans resorting to "hoyoshills" as the default insult

if u look at that person's post history, they quite literally do the same thing

[proper gust]

Oh that, yeah I get what you mean. I generally tune out when people use the term "shill", because they quite literally never use it correctly

[final musk]

I think people need to realize all the 3d gacha game communities are more closely tied together than they likely think

[proper gust]

Well of course, there's a massive overlap after all; the games all scratch a similar sort of gaming itch.

[final musk]

yup

people are all debating over minute differences over the games but they all are bad

[junior arch]

anything with hyper popularity is going to have toxic fans especially among competing brands, they will think that if they dont aggressively protect their favorite thing adamantly, that mean everyone will think that the thing they love is bad. wuwa comunity does it back at hoyo just as much. we just notice it more because genshin has more players and more pple that have sunk more time and money in it

plus genshin has a larger youth audience

[normal wolf]

Got her yesterday

Cat girl dance for Yoruichi

[grave nebula]

yup i used the term alot but of course only to account dat dedicated to shit post on other gacha game and glazing TF out of Hoyo game by checking their account cuz there many of them

but when u show them Hoyo did the same their cope is beyond crazy

literally cant reason with these people u better off mute of block them

Aera said it well... ALL game dat have massive fanbase gonna be toxic, lets not forget where most of WuWa fanbase birthplace most of them are people who sick of Genshin. So majority of shit talk 80% back and forth against each other WuWa and Genshin.

Zenless community will clap thier own people if any of them talk shit of WuWa cuz both Fandom agree with each other most of the time

"hoyoshill" generalized term but when its 80% of time its correct.. doesn't seem odd anymore

[grave nebula]

[proper gust]

The problem is that "hoyoshill" is quite literally never correct, because they aren't getting paid to white knight for hoyo

Interesting and kinda funny to hear that ZZZ fanbase isn't like that, must be due to increased joy with the game thanks to the massive tits of Manato and Evelyn

[grave nebula]

hence why i tell alti to ignore/mute them dont bother

[proper gust]

Honestly I have less respect for plain white knights than actual shills, because shills at least are doing it for the money rather than because their stupid

[grave nebula]

alti keep getting mad seeing those stupid people post

both side have them, just ignore them all

[proper gust]

I mean it can get frustrating seeing stupid people create a hostile environment and feuds where they don't need to be. Kinda like how toxic fans of Xtina and Gaga tried(and failed) to create a feud between them.

I mean it's not like a person can't play and enjoy both Genshin and WuWa

[grave nebula]

true just like how both Kuro and Hoyo Dev are friends IRL

[proper gust]

Wait really?

[grave nebula]

fandom trying to cut each other throat but both DEV are friend

which make playerbase look even more stupid

[proper gust]

I mean I guess it's not all that surprising, but still just makes the forced competitive conflict all the more pathetic

I just want the next few weeks to hurry up so I can see what the deal is with Lahai-Roi, and also so I can test out Loonay and Moron

[grave nebula]

reminded me of Seventeen VS BTS fanwar back then... now both under same label
so go fuck urself to all those retard "fans"

[proper gust]

lol pokemon vs digimon when anyone of taste knows that Dragon Quest Monsters beat them both

[grave nebula]

im on digimon side all the way not a fan of Pokemon like ever... but im not stupid and not say Pokemon is a bigger franchise and alot more popular world wide

Digimon is dying and dats a fact, the IP barely survive

u can like something but dont be delusional and say something thats not

[proper gust]

I mean they're so starkly different it's just stupid and pointless to compare them. WuWa and Genshin have a lot more in common but I think they're also much different enough that comparing them is stupid and pointless

It's like the difference between strawberry candy and orange candy

[grave nebula]

comaring for future imrovement yes dats good, dats wat competition is for

comparing just for the sake of comparing... wats the point

[proper gust]

The only thing we should be comparing is Lauma's boobs vs Fleurdelys's boobs

[grave nebula]

LMAO

WuWa clap bck to genshin fan about how they STFU now and say nothing about Lauma's massive boobs

https://tenor.com/view/hypocrisy-meter-full-hypocrite-gif-9164321

if u wanna be critical about something, apply it equally dont play fav

[proper gust]

I still like Cantarella the best tho

[grave nebula]

not my taste but they are indeed nice

on another note... WuWa daily commission actually effecting the world
Lelia now an actual Chef at Trattoria Margherita

all those commissions half poisoning rover with her cooking lol

[proper gust]

That commission series with the dude you help train with a sword also has similar sorta progression

[grave nebula]

its been loopin the same commission stage when come to dat one, maybe in the future it would progress

when ur roll is good but not great

[grave nebula]

omg.....

those are escaping the outfit

so nice when skin also applied on Joined Ultimate animation

[lime bear]

oh god no

we get another natlan banner in phase 2

ENOUGH WITH NATLAN FOR FUCKS SAKE IT ENDED!

MOVE ON TO CHARACTERS THAT WERE NOT RERUNNING IN 2 YEARS !

[rugged sand]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8UuTf68/

[lime bear]

perverts

[willow zephyr]

genshin's free constilation thingy reset

but i can't pick klee again >.<

[lime bear]

well yeah, because you can only select one character once

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuzen-kusuri-yakuzen-kusuri-cry-kusuri-cry-kusuri-tantrum-anime-tantrum-gif-10043222890593820787

i want c2 klee

[lime bear]

wait for banner

if it comes

I want C4 Klee

[willow zephyr]

i won't pull on chars i already have unless there is a new 4 star

[lime bear]

Jahoda

[willow zephyr]

is klee coming next patch?

[lime bear]

unlikely

leaks say we get more Natlan character banners as if we didn't have enough of them

[willow zephyr]

huh actualy it seems i only really wanted c1

[lime bear]

Hoyo genshin team really hung up on Natlan slop

[willow zephyr]

i'm good on klee

[lime bear]

check her C4

[willow zephyr]

i'm not pulling enough to get c4

[lime bear]

I don't think we wil lsee Klee banner this year

[willow zephyr]

only limited char other then now klee i had c1 was raiden and that was cuz i was pulling for a new 4 star at the time

[lime bear]

if you have Yae Miko get her C2

[willow zephyr]

i don't pull for cons so unless this thingy lets me get multiple it's not worth it to me cuz i will allways save for new chars over cons

atm i'm aiming for eula just cuz i like her and her c1 is good for her

i would try for hu tao's c1 cuz it's good for her as well but if i need a pyro dps mavuika and arlecchino is usualy my go to

[grave nebula]

pov : when u wanna give something but u dont really wanna

when there something good added something 5x worst also behind it, default Hoyo style

[willow zephyr]

i think c1 was what i wanted anyway so is fine

just need to figure out who's c1 i wanna get next

also i heard they changed razors kit to have him deal electro dmg instead of physical in hes ult

unless they wanna put it some work to make physical work i wish they would do something simular for eula

[grave nebula]

and lets not forget all those free con character are useless character dat no longer relevant in any form of endgame anymore, once again when u wanna give something but dont really wanna... give trash instead

🙂 wonder where Yelan Alhaitham at eyy

[willow zephyr]

atleast klee is said to get really strong from the buffs thats coming

like arlecchino and mavuika strong

but she does need to be in specific team

still

strong

[grave nebula]

c2 match mavuika c0 without sig

new klee raw dmg higher then arle, but when comes in full team and gamelay... Klee aint vaping like arle did

lets not forget those "buff" in locked behind quest/story/challenge AND another hexen members in the party

dat higher raw DMG dosent seem dat Powerful anymore when Arle can bring both Yelan Xingqiu plus bannet as her backup

they give free con, cool nice it still free stuff...
but i aint call dis generosity when other game literally give a selector of limited 5* for long dedicated player they doin bare minimum

[willow zephyr]

oh yeah that reminds me i think i saw hexen also gave the chars 1 con as par of the buff

so u could get venti c1 and have hes charge attack be a little more usefull

[grave nebula]

i dont think dis is true

u might get baited

[willow zephyr]

it's simular to skirks thing

but instead it's the hexen buff

[grave nebula]

owh u mean they have basic atk Passive like childe?

[willow zephyr]

if u activate the buff ur party unlocks a con

oh wait skirk unlocked talent level not con

[grave nebula]

first time hearing it but if dis a thing they pushing they really forcing hard

[willow zephyr]

saw a vid of a streamer reacting to it

[grave nebula]

and u know wat hapen when u force something on playerbase

never gonna end well

[willow zephyr]

indeed

[grave nebula]

first time hearing it

[willow zephyr]

i really like the story atm which is the biggest reason i'm staying

[grave nebula]

sounds too good to be true

[willow zephyr]

also it's been like 6 years so i kinda wanna see it through

[grave nebula]

writing got better yeh but they cutting corners on 6.1 got me anoyyed af

6.0 was altmost perfect they had to ruined it on 6.1

[willow zephyr]

lets hope they do better on 2.2

6.2*

[grave nebula]

these fuckers doin bare minimum to kept people in... 6.1 is so shit they have to reveal BOTH in game model for Alice and Nicole

[grave nebula]

but chu it would with 2 mages reveal

and its a Durin patch yet 2 mages showed upp more on stream then durin himself

calling out the BS

[willow zephyr]

i do like alice but honestly i was a little disapointed in her hat/hair

https://tenor.com/view/alice-genshin-impact-genshin-alice-genshin-hexenzirkel-gif-881616483344943770

like they showed us this

https://tenor.com/view/alice-genshin-impact-hexenzirkel-witch-gif-3132844077879393936

then we got this hat

and weird upwards hair

now i don't dislike it at all

it looks good and uniqe

i was just a little disapointed

was looking for the original pic of alice but saw this and just hope it's not ai

thats adorable

i need her!

klee needs her mom

i will swipe if i have to

[grave nebula]

same the only things dat bothered me from her original design

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-blush-cute-shake-dance-gif-17112837

[grave nebula]

down one 1000% ai

[willow zephyr]

is so cute

[grave nebula]

dis one not sure, too low res

[willow zephyr]

last one i sendt i felt the most sure wasn't ai

https://tenor.com/view/sousou-no-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey-frieren-anime-frieren-book-drop-book-dropping-gif-5586080115796339217

A fan design of her

i decided to google alice cuz i thought it would be faster then searching my phone

taking psycic dmg scrolling through pics of doggo to find it >.<

i don't have it

damn it i can't even search for it in here since channel changed >.<

[willow zephyr]

found it

original alice design

and this time i made sure to save it on my phone

also

stupid water mark

[proper gust]

Yeh it looped for me for ages but I managed to eventually get it to progress past the loop and now he's a sorta protector of the village

[rugged sand]

https://vxtwitter.com/wuwaguy/status/1995669898299933121?t=v7HUHlJhIYNkporFZdnVdA&s=19

RinasCita (@wuwaguy)

Now imagine measuring the game based on your so-called "gacha revenue report" 🤧

#WutheringWaves #WuWa #鳴潮 #WuWaCollection #WuWaAnniversary

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 2, 2025, 1:42 AM

Wuwa is just number 1

Simple

[willow zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/shirosaki-hana-shirosaki-hana-anime-nod-nod-gif-3093171800157173367

[grave nebula]

alti joinin the shittalk community on twitter

Alpha crimson weave and Galbrena.... YES

badass strong ladies

https://vxtwitter.com/rine_ino/status/1995340173169823790

Ino (@rine_ino)

Peak Gathering Wives

QRT: rine_ino
Arknights Endfield is following Wuwa’s approach. Another Win for The target Audience and ML enjoyers

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 1, 2025, 3:52 AM

WuWa got real competitor now for the gathering wives title

technically PGR, Snowbreak and more already parasocial as fuck but not main stream enuff to get the title

LMAO

they can, just dont wanna

[rugged sand]

Cute

But not as great as rover

[junior arch]

why spend more recourses improving your product, when can just keep putting out the same underdeveloped thing and slap a spending event on top of it and make triple the profits and make bank on it

[rugged sand]

Y would they

Genshin fans just keep spending on it as is

I go eat

[grave nebula]

same im gotta take a break and get some noms as well

[grave nebula]

main reason why the game shall never regain it success it made in 2020

ever

[junior arch]

why does the mc of endfield were that mask? it bothers me that their face is covered

[grave nebula]

still gonna play the game cuz i enjoy it but dont expect me to turn blind eye when u put bare-minimum effort and maximized profit and give NOTHING back to ur playerbase all u do is taking their progression away by making their old investment irrelevance

[grave nebula]

promoting self insert like classic gacha game

PGR comandant

[junior arch]

yeah, i guess, but with the mask covering the eyes, you lose all the emotions, i hope you can take it off

[grave nebula]

any form of Captain, Comandant, are a self insert for parasocial interaction in game

snowbreak u can marry the characters (yes "s" u can marry all if u willing)

[junior arch]

alti already married all the wives in wuwa, so we have no one left to marry if wuwa added it

[grave nebula]

i mean like literally having marrige ceremony putting on rings

cutscenes

me my self has been forced marrige in PGR twice now

to Lucia & Selena

[junior arch]

lol, add a premiums microtransaction to legally marry the characters irl and then your monthly revenue will sky rocket

[grave nebula]

fuck u hoyo for killing her off

i was ready to get her and her weapon

https://vxtwitter.com/DIMM_0/status/1995483631142273183

DIMM | Commission open (@DIMM_0)

HG really put some serious thought into this.
One of your teammates actually runs past you so you don’t feel like you’re running alone.

That’s insane little touch —
and this is exactly why I always trust Hypergryph

context/reasons in comments below
#ArknightsEndfield

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Dec 1, 2025, 1:22 PM

dis i like ^ game dat have teammates outside should normalized dis

smol detail but it have alot of impact

[final musk]

so many games do that though

[grave nebula]

full paid game yes

[final musk]

?

that doesnt even matter

[grave nebula]

sorry i should said gacha, cuz they dont really do it

[grave nebula]

somewhat

glued to player butt most of the time

[final musk]

is there even a gacha that has a team comp like this that's out in the world simultaneously?

[grave nebula]

do it like tales game would be nice as well

[grave nebula]

open world idk beside DNA, non open world there alot of them

[final musk]

idk everytime i see a post like x gacha game really put some serious thought into this. small detail etc etc

[grave nebula]

all of them glued to players back

[final musk]

I'm always like, have they played any other games in their life

[grave nebula]

its for gacha game, the standard is very low when Genshin was the main blueprint since 2020 success

i dont put gacha game to full price game standard if i do non of them passes quality check

as much as People dislike to admit it Genshin Impact is STILL the blueprint of all Gacha tittle

everyone making thier own version but slightly better

so when main blueprint standard it self already low af... game dat came out wont be as great as full price game fully polish b4 the release

[final musk]

idk I think it's just flawed that so many people correlate revenue earned with how much studios should be reinvesting into their game.

In all honesty given how successful genshin is

[junior arch]

does endfeild have a resease date yet?

[final musk]

they shouldn't be investing anything into it aside from bare minimum and work on their next game

[grave nebula]

also main issue why "normie" people dont bother trying all these gacha game, cuz quality wise are so low when comes to standard

and i wont blame them at all

[final musk]

late January is the rumor

[grave nebula]

here i disagree, sure not invest as much but atleast put effort on it for people who still playing long term

minimum effort and milking playerbase such a scumbag moves

just saying if they put twice effort on Genshin it would have been bigger and more successful and bring in more money

it still their most successful IP in thier hand

legit waste potencial

[final musk]

okay maybe I phrased it poorly but there comes a point where pouring more money into genshin just doesn't make any sense.

they don't leak development costs do they? of any of the recent content?

[grave nebula]

i dont see why not, the game still going it still great and have so many potential story and gameplay

they just never take advantage of it and let it drag out and its 5 years already

[final musk]

look at it this way. Genshin is already #1 most of the time at their current state. Throw more money... and they're still #1.

or they can do what they';re doing right now which is make a billion other games and dominate top 10 charts

[grave nebula]

true but the game is not that great anymore for stand of shareholder sure dats great dats why gameis dying and no one gives a shit anymore

tru playerbase pov??? we aint shareholders

[final musk]

wym ppl don't give a shit anymore

they still made 20m according to that chart

in November

[grave nebula]

yes they do, revenue doest make the game great

EA makes alot of money dosent mean they great publisher

[final musk]

yeah and I play maplestory. Nexon is absolute shit

but I play it cause every other game is boring

[grave nebula]

they just know well hwo to exloited thier layer base and milk them, Malistia Wonderland i still say the biggest scam hoyo ever added. yes i put Malistia Wonderland above Cyrene 300$ bow skin... its that bad imo

[final musk]

idk i genuinely think i'm just numb to monetization

cause $300 doesn't faze me

so maybe imtoo far gone

[grave nebula]

legit and i wont blame u one bit cuz alot of game rn are copy paste no effort anymore

old game are the real gold

[grave nebula]

omg maybe u are

if 300$ dosent faze u

[final musk]

I see people spending $200-300 everyday on maple and they don't seem to have the need to make reddit posts or drama twitter posts

im telling u its a different world on the mmo side

gacha players love to make posts about the monetization but maybe they're actually the smart ones 😂

[grave nebula]

cuz its a good fun game they dont need to justified their spending

and post to get uppdudes

[grave nebula]

nahh they have spending and gambling issues

addiction

[final musk]

I mean I do think demographic matters and it's cultural as well

[junior arch]

look into where winds meet... game had a microtransaction that totaled $45k worth of draws to unlock and in game boat

[final musk]

a lot of the anime gacha games attract SEA players or other demographics where the currency isn't as strong

[grave nebula]

never gonna forget dat some crashing out over DNA removing gacha in thier game
BRO ITS FREE WAT ELSE U WANT!!! how much of gambling addict are u

[final musk]

but coming from the NA side, $300 is just

[grave nebula]

[grave nebula]

even for NA 300$ still a whole week of groceries yo

can filled up the fridge

[final musk]

? $300 would be a month for most

[junior arch]

lol, what kinda of food you eating?

i probably spend around 200 a month on food

[grave nebula]

idk im just assuming when all im hearing when a cup of coffee can cost 26bucks

[final musk]

a cup of coffee ranges around $3-5 typically

[grave nebula]

or dat just LA

[final musk]

nah LA is still $3-5

[grave nebula]

then the fuck is jeans and Irene drinking then dat cost 20+ each cup

[final musk]

idk what you're referring to

even boba there costs maybe at tops $7 depending on the brand and toppings you're adding

[junior arch]

well, i guess the old price of eggs could have totaled 300 a week for food

[final musk]

but idk how they're getting $20 drinks

[grave nebula]

now i feel crazy when they ordering drink on stream like 20bucks

[final musk]

u sure its $20? cause I honestly doubt it is 😓

[grave nebula]

pretty sure i think i still remember irene tall boba tea milkshake was was 26$

[final musk]

I'm from CA in LA region and I can't even think what would cost $20 unless it's some specialty drink.

yeahhh that's absolutely bs LOL

[junior arch]

i rarly eat out anymore, not paying $20 dollers for a plate of rice and chicken when i can make it at home for way less

[grave nebula]

i was mindblown when i hear dat like wtf is dat price

for me if the drink above 5$ i aint buying screw that

give me dat 2$ mineral water bottle lol

[junior arch]

a freakin whooper meal is like almost $13 now...

[grave nebula]

sounds pretty aite still 13$

well today i learn from u 2 dat stuff on ur guys side are not as expensive as i thought

[junior arch]

you can go to a whole ass buffet for amost the same price though lol

[final musk]

I mean it's expensive but it's definitely not $26 boba expensive

that has to be multiple drinks. Not just one

[grave nebula]

pretty sure just 1 at dat time it was on saturday cooking stream as well

Irene's stream

[final musk]

did she get it delivered?

[grave nebula]

yes

[final musk]

then thats why its $26

[grave nebula]

does delivery pump the price that high???

[final musk]

well depends if you have the subscription pass that removes delivery fees or not

could be she tipped higher

[grave nebula]

even jeannie bought drink on stream cost like 15-20$

[final musk]

no food? just drinks?

[grave nebula]

there subcribtions????

[final musk]

cause i'm spending about ~$25 for food delivery

[grave nebula]

just drink yes, 1 tall drink

[junior arch]

haveing the stuff delivers can almost add and extra %50 to the total of the meal

[grave nebula]

dats insane

here delivery +3$ across the board

[junior arch]

lol if they even deliver it at all

[grave nebula]

maybe more maybe less

but dats it

around 3$ up down

[final musk]

so something like the dashpass for doordash @ $10/month. It'll remove delivery and service fees

so assuming you order multiple times, it's pretty much worth it

[grave nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

[final musk]

some credit cards also give it to you for free as a perk. Idk if she has something like that

[grave nebula]

we have dat in food apps no subcribtion tho

[final musk]

i used to get dashpass for free from my cc, but now i'm with grubhub since I recently found out I get their version for free since I have amazon prime

like let me see... a random boba place on my app and see how much it ocmes out to..

i never order only drinks on deliveries. I find that crazy tbh.

[grave nebula]

i thought amazon prime also not worth it unless u very much buying stuff every week

[junior arch]

i keep forgetting to cancel my prime

[grave nebula]

endfield hype finaly catching up to thier previous game?

[final musk]

$6.50 tea
$5.49 delivery fee
$3.59 service fee/tax

• tip
  

that being said, thats only if you get a drink. I think it's like a $10 min to remove delivery fees and reduce fees to $1 or w/e

so if thats what they've been doing welp

[final musk]

I use amazon prime enough + with the grubhub pass + the twitch prime sub. It more than pays for itself

I never sub to anyone on twitch outside of prime sub 😂

[junior arch]

arnt those revenue charts just guesses based around estimated mobile sales with arbitrary multiliers someone decided to use to guess the total revenue. they dont report any of the non mobile sales at all on those

[final musk]

yeah whenever it's posted, ppl know it's mobile only

[junior arch]

we all know when hsr has a spending event, they really make atlest 200m that month

but i never us mobile when i spend becuase apple and google add tax to it lol

[grave nebula]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK6A41z0V-s&pp=wgIGCgQQAhgB

collabs give birth to whole new character

[grave nebula]

dude...

have genshin taught nothing hoyo??? dis should be the first thing u check

u have 1 actual good game among ur other IP, dont ruined it

pick better timing then

[grave nebula]

https://youtu.be/WrLBJCuwJtA

[grave nebula]

demmit it got away

[grave nebula]

dis 100% on purpose putting those 3 together as a starter

the correct banner

[lime bear]

Ahahahah

I even saw someone saying Jahoda would be a 5 star

[willow zephyr]

happy shes not

[proper gust]

Awww and here I was planning to quit the game and they gotta throw a Faruzan banner at me

Oh wait that's a fake?

[vestal quiver]

I think the only edited part is 2 characters positions are swapped

Faruzan is gonna be on the banner I believe

[proper gust]

Damn, I really should go for her since I still don't have her C6

Also lol I totally called Bennett being on the next banner, so much for "hoyo is pushing away from him"

[grave nebula]

yeh its fake this wat people want

rather then durin

Jahoda and Durin swap spot but everything else is real

[rugged sand]

https://youtube.com/shorts/u9bMbMcZ9ds?si=E7XAFih9ktZoEC_A

[grave nebula]

told chu, game not even out yet the hate train already begun

i wish endfield slap all thier competitor and be insanely successful, possible beat WuWa when comes to Quality as well

dat way WuWa team would improve their game even more to keep up

[lime bear]

already ? LMAO

yo

First time seeing this at daybreak, looks pretty XD

[grave nebula]

its been happening since it got announce

same shit happen to TOF WuWa infinity Nikki

all of them

[lime bear]

the only thing I don't like about what the leakers said was the no carryover, we'll see if it holds

[lime bear]

yeah but TOF earned it, lets be honest

[grave nebula]

no game deserved being harrased and got told to KYS

if u do ur fucked in the head

none of these dev are saint, people forgot all these dev are making GACHA game a game design with gambling in mind equivelance of scam

but non of them deserve to be told to kill themself cuz they making a game

community are too invested in dis crap and makes it about their life instead of game

anyway~

[grave nebula]

Arknight game does the same so im exspecting it to stay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipTFpLewJ4o&pp=ygUNdG9mIGJyYXhhaG9uZQ%3D%3D

MMO and gacha never gonna work removing gacha now already too late people already left
MMO game is heavily dependent on active player base, u chase them all away

im expecting Kuro Game to failed as well on thier MMO gacha game project , but feel free to surprise me and make it works if possible

[lime bear]

List of things TOF did wrong:
-Rigged gatcha (super hard pity, nearly non existent where you get the 5* item nearly at guaranteed)
-Choppy movement
-gliding at crawl speed (tested and confirmed with other players)
-gatekeeping treasure chests with timed locks where players had to spend 7 days playing the game to open them.
-buggy enemies that reset mid fight

[junior arch]

I am done dooming on endfield, I just won't even pull on a banner unless I can have enough pull for 120 guarantee. Means no more pulling on a chance on winning early cause nor worth getting fucked over by a 50/50 chance and wasting a whole patch worth of pull. But if the free pull economy is bad, I am not going to waste my time on it

[lime bear]

I only fear that this will filter out the f2p players after the initial events, the game looks fin to play, it would be a shame to see it deteriorate and bleed players numbers early on. Even if Ark Knights had this same issue doesn't mean it's fine repeting the same thing in a world filled with gatcha games being generous to f2p players.

I don't know how slow farming the currency will really be, but that will affect f2p players, they will likely only play during events if at all

[grave nebula]

none of these deserved all the harassments they get none of it justified it

• super hard pity nearly non existance early 5* item : PGR also like that, Arknight also like that, snowbreak also like that, Strinova also like that
• choppy movement : not like all game need to be ultra smooth animation be be playable, even DNA currently have chopy movement and felt clunky af
• Gliding at crawling speed : literally nit picking
• gate keeping teasure chests with time locked mechanic that required player to wait days to open it : someone here forgot Tatarasuna exist and day locked chests in Genshin (which is their main blueprint who they copied it from)
• buggy enemies reset mid fight : actual problem and been effecting player base for long time the only valid one here

NONE of these reason deserved them to be harrased and be told to kys like come on double standard is insane here

TOF main mistake main reason it failed they cucked everything behind paywall and all progression rewards are pay gated and over price < these their main issue very scummy monetization straight up a non f2p friendly what so ever. yet still i said they dont deserved all the harassments they get. as scummy/greedy fucks as these dev are

death treat is no no in any situation

[grave nebula]

wooooohhhh i altmost shat ma pants it turn gold out of nowhere.... 20pity in

dis is good now its gurantee on next

aite got her... and gurantee pity saved for columbina

[grave nebula]

YES!!! been wanting dis for a while now

[lime bear]

I never said anything about deserved harassment

[lime bear]

I'm too scared. I'm at 60 pity. Don't want to risk it XD

[grave nebula]

okey u way too close dont risk it

i legit panik when it turn gold

[lime bear]

Diamond hands

[grave nebula]

if i get 6* in PGR banner before 60 then its diamond hand

[lime bear]

Even if I lose 50/50 I have more than enough to get anyway

[grave nebula]

just in case u know

[lime bear]

Weapon banner guaranteed as well

[grave nebula]

weapon banner fate didnt get carried on new banner... so if u didnt get it when fate point is around the gurantee is gone

[lime bear]

Ik

But I got dehya so a weapon will drop

[grave nebula]

deym lucky dat claymore one of the best

looks badass too

[lime bear]

That crit rate

Yumm

[grave nebula]

and the passive also yumm

[lime bear]

Yep

I haven't pulled on character banner since skirk

I was trying for c1

Oh wait

Dumb me

I have robot girl and Booba reindeer

I'm tired

I want to go home

[grave nebula]

DICE~

[lime bear]

Hug my daki

[grave nebula]

Pokemon nurse LMAO

if only these were traveler skin for region/sub region or something

okey come on now.... gamemode already badly design and u said u give free 10 pull but u locked behind this, dont forced this shit man come on

[lime bear]

Hoyo thinking we have friends lmao

[grave nebula]

very bad news... 2 op unit on next patch
6.3
||https://youtu.be/kL9PPCA2b-g?si=k-mM8eP_BLQnw1ZL|| BiS Lunar Support/Buff
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D3CfmQEaMw|| Geo Lunar Crystalized

🥲

cant secure both

[willow zephyr]

Will mainly try colombina but will try both

[grave nebula]

same same

[lime bear]

Mhm

Columbina priority

[grave nebula]

dat free 10 pull jump scare wtf

[grave nebula]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4VYi4Fcfgg|| Geo 4* to support Lunar Crystalized

they gonna make Columbina on phase 2 1000%... hype on new 5* and waste everyone's saved up pulls on her banner then forced people's hand to swipe on Columbina

marketing genius

god demmit im so weak to cosmetic i dont even like dis game mode but i want these outfits they so cute

reminded me of Dante neckless

https://tenor.com/view/ineedit-needit-spongebob-squarepants-need-it-gif-4883495

idol fit...

[grave nebula]

goin Snowboarding at Dragonspine

[lime bear]

ok so Zi bai is gonna be a needed option

she's a GEO

[grave nebula]

Lunar Crystalized

pretty much the only geo people needed cuz how stupid broken lunar reaction is

[lime bear]

Navia's skills got updated for Lunar reactions too

but for me

Geo lady

must have