YO ANYONE DOWN FOR DND ON NON-STREAM NIGHTS?

[crude pelican]

And a hit die does what exactly though? Determine id I hit or how strong the attack is?

Or do I get hit myself

[proud pebble]

a hit die is normally just for healing yourself during a short rest

[pastel idol]

hit die normally is used to regain a bit of health on short rests- I'm assuming for sangromancy spells, they determine power or something

[neat dust]

https://tenor.com/view/aahh-anime-jumping-excited-gif-14364863

[pastel idol]

I don't know where to see sangromancy spells though

[crude pelican]

Same

[neat dust]

i wanna see how it is to be tanky

[proud pebble]

in the Grim Hollow players guide

[crude pelican]

Ok but how different would that make it from normal spells then?

Like is a hit die limited or?

[proud pebble]

yes

[pastel idol]

long death monks aren't full tanks, but still pretty tanky for a monk
you get temporary health each time you down a foe- and after 11 you become
almost immortal

[proud pebble]

you have one hit die per level

[pastel idol]

[crude pelican]

AAAAHHHH

Okaaaay

[proud pebble]

and you get them back more slowly then spell slots

[crude pelican]

Yes cause spells I can even get with a short rest

But hit die with long rest

[pastel idol]

yee this, but because you're a sangromancer, like I posted above
you get a special feature called "full-blooded" at level 2 along with your subclass

[neat dust]

yup and at lv.1 i have 17ac and the raven queens blessing which i can use to quickly shield enemied with my own body

[proud pebble]

you get half yuor hit dice back per long rest

[neat dust]

btw how does temporary hit points work?

do they expire?

[proud pebble]

depends on the source

[neat dust]

or do i only lose them after taking dmg

[crude pelican]

Oh

[proud pebble]

you can only have on "set" of temporary HP at once
if you get more then the first set vanishes

[crude pelican]

So I get two D12 for being second level?

[pastel idol]

these extra "hit die" are 1d12 instead, and you regain all of them on a long rest

[proud pebble]

3D12 at lv2

[crude pelican]

Like equal amount of 12dice for level?

[proud pebble]

1 + your level

[crude pelican]

Ah

SUPER COOL

Okay that makes it much more playable of course

Very cool

[neat dust]

so if durring combat i use touch of death on 2 enemies i lose the ones from the first enemy and instead get the ones from the second enemy they don't stack?

[proud pebble]

yes

[neat dust]

still good

so when i get that at level 3 it will be 7 hit points

unless i get my wisdom to 18

then it becomes 8

[pastel idol]

keep in mind, "killing a bunch of enemies" in a fight, won't happen just like that
maybe you will kill one, the rest of your party kills the others, and so on

you aren't guaranteed to get multiple refreshes of temp health in a fight

but still very good

[neat dust]

i know just used the example to help me understand

[pastel idol]

[neat dust]

if i do get my 7 hit poins and take 4 dmg if i then kill another with it i go back to 7 right?

[fickle barn]

You can always to chose to replace temporary hit points for example you have 1 and your about to gain 5 you can chose to take the 5 and “lose the 1”

[crude pelican]

Ok

So

For Blood Spells

One hit dice

Or one of my 12Dices that I get cause of my class

[neat dust]

?

u get 1d12

[crude pelican]

My 12dice will reset whenever I take a long rest

[pastel idol]

yes

[crude pelican]

12dice =12 sided dice

I don't want to confuse myself with the DnD slang

[neat dust]

u confused me by not useing it

i belive ur hit dice are d12

[crude pelican]

My one 6dice will reset with two long rests

[proud pebble]

it's rounded up so you get one back per long rest

[pastel idol]

and at lv2 you'd also have 2 1d6 hit die

[crude pelican]

Ok nice

[crude pelican]

Oh do they also increasw with each level?

[pastel idol]

yes, that's the normal way hit die works

[crude pelican]

NICE

Ok so actually

The Sangromancy should be pretty chill then

[pastel idol]

your subclass just gives you a few extra, but the "extra" ones, can only be used on spells

[crude pelican]

You normal use hit dice's for heals?

[pastel idol]

on short rests, you can spend the normal hit die to regain a bit of hit points, based on how much you roll

[crude pelican]

Ah I see

Besides that not?

And also

Do hit dice generally only determine tge potency of something?

[pastel idol]

"hit die" are normally solely used for regaining hit points during short rests
sangromancer just has unique interactions

[crude pelican]

Yes but I mean you use hit die there too to determine the potency of your heal

So is it for Sangromancer also like it?

That it will determine the potency of the spell?

[short hare]

i don't kow when or if i am gonna multiclass. imma let narative decide that

[pastel idol]

I haven't seen the sangromancy spells, but I'd assume it works like that

[proud pebble]

an example of a sangromancy spell

[pastel idol]

massive shield

[proud pebble]

again, all the spells are in the GH player's guide

[short hare]

that is rally strong wow

[crude pelican]

What is so wow about it Aizo? I'm too baby DnD too understand it properly

[crude pelican]

I did hear that the Sangromancy stuff is pretty broken, when I was looking it up

I wouldn't know though cause I don't know normal DnD or wizard stuff

[short hare]

its basically more hp. which is good. especially at lower levels

it can make it so a wizard can actually take a hit without dying

[fickle barn]

Wait I’ve got a character idea if we are starring level 1 a strength based rogue

[pastel idol]

look at it like this- if I'm lucky, at 5th level which is when full casters get 3rd level spells
I might have 38 total hit points- that spell, if you get max rolls, can give up to 36 temp hit points

[fickle barn]

That is a 3rd level spell so you can access it from level 5

[pastel idol]

of course, the average would be like, 18 or something

[short hare]

still busted mind you

[fickle barn]

I say this or a dex based rogue still but a half orc or Goliath or something

[pastel idol]

yee

[short hare]

you'd have to discuss with cannon in session 0

[crude pelican]

Huh? I thought this spell is for or against a creature though?

[short hare]

its for allies

[fickle barn]

Yh I will I unfortunately will only be able to stay at the session 0 for like 30 minutes as I’m currently in a Tuesday game I’m looking to leave so I’m wanting to attended session 0 and see if it’s for me

[short hare]

so basically, you give your allies more hp at the cost of your hit dies

[crude pelican]

Ah ok

That makes more sense

[short hare]

or you can hop into call with cannon or shoot him a dm

[fickle barn]

True

[crude pelican]

I didn't get it right because of the "creature" and intelligence level of 3 atleast

Cause that sounded more like you use it on an enemy to bind it to you

[fickle barn]

Well I join the call tomorrow for 30 minutes and then I’ll talk to cannon afterwards

[crude pelican]

Can I cast it at anyone though?

[short hare]

yesm you can do that

[crude pelican]

And what would happen if I cast it on an enemy?

[short hare]

theoretically yes. if the creature is willing

[fickle barn]

They technically don’t need to be willing

[crude pelican]

But if I cast it on an enemy and they want to break the bond they would suffer damage

[fickle barn]

By the reading of the spell

[crude pelican]

And also I could know it's exact location and speak to it

[fickle barn]

Correct or they just take the extra hp

[crude pelican]

Or use touch and self spells on them

[short hare]

ah i see, i read it wrong

[crude pelican]

Yea if they would try to end it they would take harm

[short hare]

yes, you are right

[fickle barn]

Do you want to cast it on the enemy

Probably not

[crude pelican]

I can bully someone and speak constantly to them dus to the telepathic bond

[crude pelican]

I mean it's better though to know all options

[fickle barn]

So true

[crude pelican]

It could be used for whacks combinations

[fickle barn]

It’s risky

[crude pelican]

I don't know if enemies hide or flee but I also would be able to see where they are

If that would happen

[fickle barn]

Yh definitely and they might

[short hare]

how i think it works is, lets say the creature is granted 26 hitpoints and it then loses 3 hitpoints, if it then chooses to end the spell early, it'll take 3 points of necrotic damage/ amount of points = the tomage on on the shield

if the spell end naturally, i don't think that applies

[fickle barn]

No in your example if they were to end it they would take 23 necrotic damage

As they lose the temp hp and then take damage

[crude pelican]

Or is it that it loses all hit points I gave them plus take damage to the equal amount I gave them

[pastel idol]

oh I can guarantee they will flee, it's all my character does

various means of causing "frightened"

[crude pelican]

Nice then we can make them flee and hunt them down

[short hare]

thats what i meant

[short hare]

but this can also be true. i'd say ask cannon

[crude pelican]

Yea that's what I'm saying

[neat dust]

at lv.6 i can terrify everyone around me in a 30ft radius friend or foe

[fickle barn]

Speak to cannon as at the end of the day dm has final say

[crude pelican]

You get equal damage to the temporary points you had

[short hare]

indeed

[crude pelican]

@proud pebble your opinion?

[proud pebble]

k

[pastel idol]

yee, and only takes an action- though they still get to make a save

[crude pelican]

Say what stuff could tou gain from having an telepathic bond to your ally

Like say I put it on Aizo

The spell

[proud pebble]

silent communication

[crude pelican]

Ooh

Can players be parted from another?

[pastel idol]

don't put it on me though, I get telepathic speech when I multiclass aberrant mind at level 2

[fickle barn]

So I’m thinking either a very big race (yes medium) but traditional large if they aren’t the playable race like Goliath etc rogue as just picture a Goliath sneaking around and if they get spotted they just go 🤫🤫you don’t see me your probably not gonna say anything

[neat dust]

visual is kinda cool i can enter a room with that ability and terrify everyone and my fey mark makes flowers and such wilt in my precense

[pastel idol]

I wouldn't mind the massive shield however

[crude pelican]

It just a mind exercise RAAAAAAHHHH

Hmmm okay

But

[pastel idol]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JwznSqQvr-0

[neat dust]

she will make u go mad for fun

[pastel idol]

[proud pebble]

intimidation cannot be used for stealth btw

[crude pelican]

I need to have atleast a 3 at my hit dice roll?

[umbral osprey]

simply murder them

[proud pebble]

if a spell has a cost and you cannot spend the cost
then the spell fails

[crude pelican]

Wait no I need to use atleast 3 hit dice in total

[proud pebble]

gonna murder you

[neat dust]

if i use hour of reaping outside of combat can i turn it off at will? so i'm not just terrifying my allies cuz they were to close?

[pastel idol]

for this particular spell yes, there are other spells that require less, and/or more

[crude pelican]

Ok that makes more sense for the health point stuff and how you came to 36

[pastel idol]

it's an action you take, to cause the fear
it's not "on" by default

[crude pelican]

A long rest restores my D12 hit dices I get from my class

[neat dust]

i know but if i turn it on i can turn it off again if my allies failed their saving throw?

[crude pelican]

A long rest restores ALL my Hit Dices for this campaign according to Cannon

Even the normal cause rounding up

[proud pebble]

I did not say that

[crude pelican]

No?

[proud pebble]

you get half back, rounded up

[pastel idol]

the spell cannon linked "blood bond" spends 3 hit die- which you'd probably use your d12s for
you roll them, and that's how much temporary health the target gains

[proud pebble]

when you have 1 hit die, that gives you all one of them back

[pastel idol]

this

for examble, once we're level 2, you have 2 normal hit die
but would still only regain one on a long rest

[crude pelican]

?

[crude pelican]

Yep I got that now too

[pastel idol]

half of 1 is ½, but it's rounded up, so 1

quick math~

[crude pelican]

Oh fuck

[pastel idol]

half of 2 is 1, so you regain 1
half of 3 is 1½, but it's rounded up so you regain 2

[proud pebble]

you have 1 hit die per level
you get half of your hit dice back per long rest, rounded up

if you're lv5 you have 5 dice
a long rest would give you 3 back

[pastel idol]

[crude pelican]

Ok

I need to read up on my D12 I get from Sangro class

[fickle barn]

I think I might actually have my character for level 1 and if it’s level 3 I have soup

[crude pelican]

Okay but here I get ALL with one long rest

[pastel idol]

yes, the subclass ones you regain all of them

[proud pebble]

those are a SEPERATE thing from your hit dice

[pastel idol]

yup

[proud pebble]

they can be used in Sangro spells INSTEAD OF your hit dice

[crude pelican]

My 12D Hit Dice from my subclass I get all back from one long rest

[pastel idol]

yes

[crude pelican]

Yea yea I got that already

[pastel idol]

we just making sure

[crude pelican]

Yea

[crude pelican]

Good cause I need much talk for things I don't know

I hate when people expect people to know or get everything by one simple sentence instead of explaining it properly

[fickle barn]

Here’s a question what’s the best “Famer” background for 5e as there isn’t a farmer there’s one from 2024 dnd

[crude pelican]

Damn you my PE teacher I had for my last year

[crude pelican]

Outlander?

[fickle barn]

That’s what I’m thinking tbh

[crude pelican]

I only know that one but he seems good for farmer

[proud pebble]

Folk Hero also works

[crude pelican]

Cause when I looked at origins I didn't find that many common stuff

[proud pebble]

we're using 2014 Dnd

[pastel idol]

I think he means like what would be a good substitute for it

[fickle barn]

Yh

[crude pelican]

Say

[fickle barn]

Maybe folk hero

[crude pelican]

What happens if I only use one hit dice and take a long rest?

Do I get halve of 1 hit dice or get it back?

[proud pebble]

you get one hit die back

[crude pelican]

Ok

[proud pebble]

you get half of your TOTAL hit dice back

[crude pelican]

Yea was just wondering if I only use so little

[fickle barn]

Folk hero is the best so far I guess

[crude pelican]

What did I wanted to say again

[fickle barn]

You come from a humble social rank, but you are destined for so much more. Already the people of your home village regard you as their champion, and your destiny calls you to stand against the tyrants and monsters that threaten the common folk everywhere.
It’s just this that’s bothering me as I don’t feel the character would be regarded as the champion yet

[crude pelican]

You know I got Jeannie's stream in the background in my phone and got no actual clue what expicitly they are doing

[proud pebble]

playing BG3

[crude pelican]

I know that but I don't get why they seemingly restart the whole time

[proud pebble]

it's honour mode

no reloading saves

if they die, delete the campaign

[crude pelican]

And I honestly don't know anything about Baldurs Gate besides Bear sex scene and that it's DnD

[crude pelican]

Ah I see

Say I couldn't cast Blood Bond on myself?

[proud pebble]

no, you cannot

[crude pelican]

Sad

Extra hit points would be fun

[proud pebble]

idk if it's even a wizard spell
was just giving an example of a sangromancy spell

[crude pelican]

But there probably are more of that kinda stuff

[proud pebble]

again, you can look at the pdf of the Grim Hollow Player's Guide to see all of the spells

[fickle barn]

How are we doing stats? Is it point buy?

[umbral osprey]

4d6 drop lowest

[proud pebble]

be honest with the rolls or I smite you

[umbral osprey]

6 18s coming right up

[fickle barn]

😂😂😂

[proud pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[pastel idol]

my character has 5 str

[umbral osprey]

this is my spread

[pastel idol]

[fickle barn]

Would this be ok? If you want me to change any by all means ask

[proud pebble]

that's fine

[fickle barn]

👍

What weapon would you say a farmer would use

[proud pebble]

spear or club maybe

something simple anyway

[fickle barn]

Yh as I’m a barbarian fighter who doesn’t know there own strength maybe (if we are starting level 1)

[umbral osprey]

reflavor a trident into a pitchfork

[pastel idol]

was about to say

[fickle barn]

Yh

I wish barbarian starts with a shield lol as I would use a trident a shield

[proud pebble]

pitchfork and wagonwheel

[fickle barn]

Yh

[fickle barn]

Would you allow me to start with a shield

[proud pebble]

sure

you lose the handaxes tho

[fickle barn]

That’s fine

[sudden frost]

Throughout most of history, the peasantry used spears

[proud pebble]

a pitchfork is just a spear with an extra pointy bit

[sudden frost]

They would wear clothes made of thick wool and/or canvas, so that weapons would get trapped and slide off.

This is why the actual victory of Scottish independence under Robert Bruce was so ironic. Bruce's side only had spears, and he was up against a lot of knights, but they successfully hearded the knights together with very disciplined spear walls and then obliterated them. Poverty > Wealth.

I say actual... cause there are a lot of really weird film renditions of the war.

[fickle barn]

Fair

[sudden frost]

Sry. got bored mid strem.

[pastel idol]

how dare you

[crude pelican]

BAN HIM

[fickle barn]

So thoughts

Krog Bonecrusher is their name

[crude pelican]

I dunno know

[fickle barn]

He’s a farmer and a painter

[crude pelican]

Painter you say?

[fickle barn]

Yep

[crude pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-clair-obscur-expedition-33-animation-artwork-gif-13854972158469885717

[proud pebble]

going on an expedition eh?

[fickle barn]

He is just a very kind and gentle soul who doesn’t know there own strength

[fickle barn]

I’ve never seen gameplay or played it

[sudden frost]

He crushes bones... by accident?

[fickle barn]

Yep

[sudden frost]

Accident prone eh?

[fickle barn]

He’s accidentally crushed peoples hands

[sudden frost]

Makes sense

[fickle barn]

And he doesn’t mean to

[fickle barn]

Yh

He also like knitting in his spare time I wish I could get weavers and painters proficiency

[umbral osprey]

fellow orc i am only a half orc tho

[fickle barn]

Same I’m a half orc

[proud pebble]

ahh lots of orc
time for some fantasy racism

[pastel idol]

[fickle barn]

😂😂😂 I might be the one to cause that as I might accidentally hurt people

[pastel idol]

good thing we're in seperate groups, my character has 5 strength

[proud pebble]

that was a joke, there will be no fantasy racism (or actual racism) in my game

[umbral osprey]

@proud pebble do i have to make a mini or can i just make a portrait?

[proud pebble]

either

you know what

no

make BOTH BITCH

[umbral osprey]

sure

[fickle barn]

I will work on the backstory tomorrow once I know the campaign more

I’m still not sure what subclass I would go

[umbral osprey]

there are other fighter subclasses than battle master?

[pastel idol]

cannon, grim hollow stuff was allowed for their campaign as well right?

[umbral osprey]

[fickle barn]

I’m a barbarian

[umbral osprey]

ah nvm

[proud pebble]

yes, Grim Hollow is avalible for either game

[pastel idol]

https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Grim_Hollow_Subclasses

two additional barbarian subclasses, in case either seems interesting

[proud pebble]

which I believe I've said on multiple occasions

[fickle barn]

Hmm

None of them really fit tbh the one closest is the primal spirit

Path of the giant is interesting as and take the saying a gentle giant literally

[proud pebble]

honestly I'd have thought path of the fractured would have worked well

the kind of split personality thing

like normally a nice person but when they get angry

[fickle barn]

Yh I saw that but I don’t imagine them being a split personality I just think he just always underestimates his own strength due to painting and stuff and i imagine he has saved people and stuff who’s been crushed by box’s or carts with one hand and he just thinks it’s normal

I also don’t need to decide now

[proud pebble]

fair

[fickle barn]

I can wait and see where the story goes

[sturdy agate]

whyeth doest thou pingeth my pongeth?!

[fickle barn]

This was why

[neat dust]

hes playing u

[pastel idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-yum-chef-tasty-penguin-gif-18406553391181218065

[neat dust]

soup should joine and be a cleric just to live up to that

heals us and enemies

cuz he heals all

[fickle barn]

He’s a artificer he will have the chef feat

[sturdy agate]

throw barb or riot

[umbral osprey]

mini done will do portrait tmr

[crude pelican]

It's very very good

[sturdy agate]

i will throw you at my enemies

[crude pelican]

Maybe that will be our setting for our campaign

[pastel idol]

path of the giant barbarians actually get a trait at a later level
that let's them throw allies(and enemies)

[sturdy agate]

damn straight

[proud pebble]

it's not

[fickle barn]

I should go to bed

It’s 3:20 am

[sturdy agate]

it will also let me loot goblin because i allways need things to throw

[umbral osprey]

rookie numbers its 5:20

[crude pelican]

Didn't you see yourself there

[sturdy agate]

i did not

like, dood, i didnt even know this chat existed

[umbral osprey]

@proud pebble

[sturdy agate]

now look what youve done

[crude pelican]

Spoiler!

[proud pebble]

I saw

[proud pebble]

no it's not

you know what the setting is

[pastel idol]

I hope we stay faaaaar away from the castinellan provinces where I'm from

for..

reasons

[crude pelican]

Yeaaaa I meant moreso our group setting for our guys but that spoiler was a joke anyways you just answered too soon before I could ad an emote

[crude pelican]

Which one was that again?

Mad King?

Vampires?

Or Elves

[sturdy agate]

"why are you carrying 15 frying pans?"
dw about it i like their aerodynamics

[umbral osprey]

If my dude ever meets you you're probably getting the business end of that executioner sword

[pastel idol]

I don't think cannon went into that place in his description
but basically there's an "inquisition" who.. doesn't like magic

[sturdy agate]

but uhm nowhere near nerd enough to be in here so imma dip out

[pastel idol]

or you will run away, screaming in fear

drake is part of the other campaign group, but his background is inquisitor, if I remember right

my character is a "lapsed inquisitor" meaning I left the order, for..

reasons

[crude pelican]

Oh then we both are hoping to not go there

[proud pebble]

the campaign takes place in the Ostoyan Empire

[crude pelican]

They'd make my scaly ass into some nice leather boots as soon as I show them a bit of blood magic

[pastel idol]

[crude pelican]

Me dumb not remember stuff

The relatively normal one?

With the nobles and all

[proud pebble]

I know that already

[pastel idol]

there's a pinned message in her cannon sent of the grim hollow stuff
you can read all the different things at any point

#1242281898844360744 message

[crude pelican]

You such a meanie when you aren't in voice chat

[umbral osprey]

Just need to hit paladin 10 and I'll be fear immune

[crude pelican]

Ooh thanks Aizo

Oh god it's a download

My phone barely has any space

[proud pebble]

download it on your laptop then

[pastel idol]

by level 10, I have access to the meanest and most brutal spell ever invented in the history of DnD
called "dream"

[neat dust]

ah so i have atleast 4 levels i can keep terrifying u

[pastel idol]

lots of text- but basically I can make anyone over any distance never get the benefit of a long rest ever again
and gradually kill them, even if I'm on the other side of the world

you can't even heal, since you never restore anything from resting

or on a more pleasant note, I can use it to talk to peepos in their dreams

[neat dust]

u can't get rid of it somehow?

[umbral osprey]

I am probably not putting 10 levels into paladin cuz I want some warlock levels anyways

[crude pelican]

Ok I read up lore

[pastel idol]

you can beat the saving throw, and the damage and effect won't happen
but you still have to beat the saving throw

[umbral osprey]

Kill the caster

[crude pelican]

We going for the vampire nation

Cool

Fits with my character anyways

[pastel idol]

you don't even know who casts it on you
because the caster can change anything in the dream
including landscape, you, and themselves

[neat dust]

but if u fail there is no way? or do u get to try like each time u try to sleep?

[pastel idol]

you get a new save each time you sleep

[neat dust]

ah i see

[crude pelican]

Enemies can rest and heal?

[proud pebble]

yep

[crude pelican]

Ok cause from what I knew it almost seemed like a player targeted spel

[neat dust]

if u can do it then an enemy can as well

[crude pelican]

The same rules apply to enemies healing?

[proud pebble]

if you can heal, they can heal

[crude pelican]

Long rest short rest

[proud pebble]

not necessarily the same mechanics

[crude pelican]

Ok just didn't expect the resting mechanic to be apart of it

[pastel idol]

except for "boss" characters, players and npcs normally have access to the same things

[crude pelican]

Like healing spells or stuff but not like the rest one can do

[crude pelican]

Ok ok

Say

[pastel idol]

but npcs generally start at full effect, even if you encounter them in the wild
players might not

[proud pebble]

boss character will also have access to healing

[pastel idol]

yeah

[crude pelican]

What nerds made DnD? They made it so complicated and added so much! Not that I'm complaining cause that basically is Elder Scrolls too and I'm also a giant nerd

[crude pelican]

Imagined so

[pastel idol]

same peepos that made magic the gathering, I think

[crude pelican]

But yes rest makes sense

It's like the enemies in Elder Scrolls game regenerating hp when not in combat

[proud pebble]

nah, two very different groups

[crude pelican]

Yes I will always think in Elder Scrolls terms

[proud pebble]

Gary Gygax made D&D
Richard Garfield made MtG

[pastel idol]

[crude pelican]

Makes things easier to understand like anything if you go by a sort of alegeration

[pastel idol]

in dnd you generally don't recover health at all, unless something makes you restore health
like a spell, or rest

[crude pelican]

Yes yes

Oh it's late

Hmm

Should I stay up and rawdog the night so my sleep schedule can reset?

Or go sleep and try to wake up early which probably won't happen

[neat dust]

if u have anything u should be rested for then even just laying down and closing ur eyes is better then no sleep

[proud pebble]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Z91AviD5Svg?si=ASSCxpu2AZKt6geI

[pastel idol]

what does he mean flash of genius adds a 6, does he have 22 intelligence?!

@proud pebble so like, we're a bit off lv11 still in justin's campaign
but.. like, this seems really good

I can give myself or someone else 8 free uses of one of my 1st or 2nd level spells per day?

we're not playing the 2024 version, but they even buffed it in that version to also include 3rd level spells

[neat dust]

I Wonder if u stack the same spell could u ask DM to cast it as a higher level spell

I can't remember any spells atm so lets Just say u have 8 lv.1 fireballs stored could u try casting all 8 at the same time and be allowed to cast it as a like 4th level spell?

[proud pebble]

yes, I believe that's right

[pastel idol]

no

[neat dust]

I mean I know u normaly can't but could u convince DM to allow it

Wait can u even cast them all at once?

[pastel idol]

no, the spells must require an action

[neat dust]

Ah I see

[pastel idol]

depends on setting, but I was thinking stuff like

• cure wounds
• disguise self
• jump
• arcane lock
• enlarge/reduce
• invisibility
• rope trick
• spider climb
• vortex warp

would be strong picks
for a stored spell, and you get 8 uses per day for dree

[neat dust]

Cure wounds sounds nice

[pastel idol]

right?

8 free uses, and I can give the effect to someone else

so liger could possibly have 8 uses of something

[neat dust]

If u could give one to each of us then we can all heal each other should anyone go down

[pastel idol]

I cannot, it's one single item I store spells in

specifically a weapon, if it's someone else

[neat dust]

Ah i see

I have a health kit saved for if anyone goes down so i can rush to help

[pastel idol]

if I do it for myself, I can put it in something I could use as a spell-casting focus
so for myself, I'd just store the spells in my tinker tools that is part of my body

but for others, it has to be a weapon, since I cannot give away my spell-focus

[neat dust]

Could u store the spells in a dagger and we could all pass the dagger around as needed?

[pastel idol]

of course

[neat dust]

Like if u gave it cure wounds and liger had the dagger elara was down and marie was close to her could liger Just throw the dagger to marie?

[pastel idol]

[neat dust]

[pastel idol]

and the 2024 version thought this effect was too weak, so they included 3rd level spells being able to be stored

silly them

[neat dust]

I mainly think of liger as a dps but i wish I had a means to heal others since i can use feline agility or misty step to help me reach People quickly

Don't wanna lose my friends

[pastel idol]

[neat dust]

as long as there isn't an enemy on top of u wanna try and stop u guys from having to make death saves

speaking of death saves i saw a thing i thought was cool

[pastel idol]

I personally don't think it's a good feat really, but there is the "magic initiate: [class]" feat
that let's you gain a few cantrips off a spell-casting class, alongside a single 1st level spell
that way anyone can pick cleric for that, and gain access to 1 healing word or cure wounds
once per day

[neat dust]

only u and the dm knows how ur death saves go so the pary doesn't know if u roll a 1 and now only have 1 more roll left and or if u roll well and they have more time

makes players feel the pressure of oh shit my friend is dying

[pastel idol]

[neat dust]

as nice as it sounds atleast for the next ASI i'm gonna make my dex 20 instead of taking a feat

[pastel idol]

yeah I don't think the magic initiate feat is good, probably most for roleplay or personal flavour

I considered it on my eldritch cleric and pick sorcerer so I didn't have to multiclass for dissonant whispers
but the 1st level spell you can only cast once a day, so can't even use it on her

[fickle barn]

The healer feat is really good

If uses healer kits yes but it is a lot of healing mid game

Early game it’s ok

As an action it healed 1d6 +4 + number of maximum hit dice the target has (character level)

Once per person per short or long rest

[pastel idol]

yeah the healer feat is pretty good, especially if you're in a setting where magic is less common
or you simply want to roleplay a little more realistic medic

[fickle barn]

Definitely

[fickle barn]

Yh I have a character who I classify as a pacifist

[neat dust]

i will concider it in the future

[crude pelican]

Oy

Aizo

You can multiclass?

You mentioned that a few times

[proud pebble]

yep

got to meet a stat requirement

[pastel idol]

multiclassing is a bit more advanced than not- it let's you add features you want, either for roleplay purposes or because you want certain things
however, it also makes your primary class(and multiclass) gain their level features slightly slower

so like, I'm going aberrant mind sorcerer at level 2- that means my cleric features will always be 1 level behind

so an 8th level cleric feature I wouldn't get before 9, and so on

pros and cons

[crude pelican]

Ok

That's cool

But complicated too much for a starter I see

Is your class also always switched out then?

Like start as cleric but at level 2 you stop being a cleric and officially are a sorcerer

[pastel idol]

no you're both after that, but you maintain the primary things from cleric, aka the first class

[crude pelican]

Neat thing I found

It seems they all get sangromancy marked there on the guide but unfortunately sangromancy isn't an official kind of seperate school of magic

[crude pelican]

So like what do you write on your sheet?

Level 1 cleric and level 3 sorcerer?

[crude pelican]

What was my spelcasting modifier again?

And also

What is considered as higher levels?

[proud pebble]

Intelligence

[proud pebble]

generally lv8 and above

[crude pelican]

My intelligence modifier ok

[crude pelican]

Ok ok

Hmm that makes that spell really good then

Well as a heal atleast

[proud pebble]

oh I misunderstood the question

[crude pelican]

Oh

[proud pebble]

the spell you shared is a 1st level spell
you can cast spells at a higher level if you want too
so you could cast it as a 2nd level spell or a 3rd level ect

so the spell is saying that if you cast it at a higher level then you can regain more hit points

[pastel idol]

yup !

[crude pelican]

Ok I see

[crude pelican]

Ah ok

Even cooler then

[pastel idol]

called "upcasting"

[proud pebble]

But, if you are casting it at a higher level then it requires a higher level spell slot

[crude pelican]

I mean it doesn't change anything actively if I have a lvl 1 spell still as a lvl 4 wizard right?

[crude pelican]

Ok there seemingly is a change

[pastel idol]

some spells, like the bloodrush you found gets stronger if "upcast"

[crude pelican]

There a different lvl spell slots?

I thought it was just gemeral spell slots

[proud pebble]

spells go from level 1 to level 9

sorry realised that picture was shit

[crude pelican]

Yes but I can mix and match all spells in my spell slots

Like are my spell slots split?

Or it just one general?

[proud pebble]

you have a specific number of spell slots per level

[crude pelican]

Yes I remember that

[lofty warren]

cheezes so much text. took me few min to scroll

[proud pebble]

you start with 2 level 1 spell slots

the most 1st level spell slots you will get is 4

you'll also end up with three 2nd level spell slots

[crude pelican]

Ok so there is a clear distinction

I see

[proud pebble]

yes

[pastel idol]

might seem slightly confusing or overwhelming at first
but this shows the progressive spell slots per level

[proud pebble]

a 2nd level spell can't be cast with a 1st level spell slot
BUT
a 1st level spell CAN be cast with a 2nd level spell slot

[crude pelican]

Ok ok

[proud pebble]

and most spells have an additional effect when cast with a higher level of spell slot

you'll get there, it'll just take some time to sink in

[pastel idol]

this, but the spell will state if it does, like on the blood rush spell majora posted

[crude pelican]

Is it seperated on the character sheet you gave us?

Can't go on in it on phone unfortunately

[proud pebble]

yes

[crude pelican]

Ok

That probably helps then if I look at it

[proud pebble]

[crude pelican]

Yup I imagine

[pastel idol]

I realise this might be a little smol, but this is my character's spell sheet

you can see how the spells are separated into levels
and then I simply added what the different spells does as notes

[crude pelican]

Some stuff is barely readable

[crude pelican]

Yes yes

[proud pebble]

dw Aizo likes to plan everything out in advance

[pastel idol]

the stuff marked with a "lv[x]" is stuff I don't have yet, but will get at that level

[crude pelican]

Ah yes I can only have a certain number of fixed spells when going out

And change it after long rest again

[pastel idol]

[proud pebble]

as a wizard you start with 6 spells that you know

and you get two more spells each time you level up

so you will pretty much always know more spells then you can cast in a day

[crude pelican]

And 2 spell slots I can have to put my spells in right?

[pastel idol]

this should be readable for my 1st level spells

[proud pebble]

currently, each day you can cast 2 spells

[crude pelican]

Yup yup

[proud pebble]

you can only cast a spell that you know

[pastel idol]

as shown as the "slots total" I put too

[crude pelican]

Wait so I can cast any spells that I know or was it that I had to pre choose the spells I take with me?

[proud pebble]

you have to choose in advance which 6 spells you know
you can cast two of them each day

it can be the same spell twice or two different spells

[crude pelican]

Ok

[pastel idol]

for simplicity's sake we don't have to get into further levels now
but numbers will increase as we advance in levels too

[crude pelican]

Ok

Just to get it right

Like at level 2

Lets say I got 8 spell slots

Or

Wiat

I get a bit confused by Aizo's sheet

[pastel idol]

don't look at the amount of spells, each caster has their own things

I got 6 prepared spells like you do, but my subclass gives me 2 free ones

speaking of, I actually did it wrong myself, I get 5 at level 1

don't look at me

[crude pelican]

Ok but like I have 6 out of all spells I could have. If I go on to a higher level I get more. The spells slots are still though different cause level distinction but still its 6 or 8 or whatver spells I know

[crude pelican]

[proud pebble]

all you need to do for now is pick 6 spells that you know

[pastel idol]

wizards amount of spells they can prepare, is your intelligence mod, + wizard level

so each level you put in wizard gives you another spell you can have prepared

as cannon says

[crude pelican]

Ok

[pastel idol]

that's why I said no need to consider higher levels yet

[crude pelican]

Just one last question

[pastel idol]

as cannon also said, when I create a character, I make it level 20, so I know what I want and what it can do
and then I work down, to fit the level we're at

[crude pelican]

Do I write my 6 spels I choose somewhere different then there?

[pastel idol]

the place that says "spell level 1"

[proud pebble]

no, put the ones you've chosen on that sheet

[crude pelican]

Ok ok

[proud pebble]

anyway I go for nap now for other session 0

[crude pelican]

Brain working overtime

Just after waking up

[short hare]

@proud pebble my character art is still being made so it's gonna be a couple weeks since i have a portrait. is that alright?

[proud pebble]

that's fine, if you could find a temporary placeholder for me to use, that would be helpful

[short hare]

alight, for now i'll pick a generic tree

[lofty warren]

this is my official character figurine.

[pastel idol]

[crude pelican]

He better wear clothes or else he gonna get bonked by miz Wizard Lizard

AND NO THAT BIT OF FELL IS NOT ACCEPTABLE CLOTHING

Ooooh Aizo

What were Cantrips again?

Minor spells I can cast all the time right?

[pastel idol]

yes

minor spells that has no limited cost

[crude pelican]

Yes yes

How many slots there?

[pastel idol]

first level wizards have 3 cantrip slots

[crude pelican]

OK

RAAAAAAAH

Thanks

[lofty warren]

clothes are for the weak. and oil and clothes do not go together.

[crude pelican]

Then don't be oily

[lofty warren]

its like saing donth breath

[fickle barn]

Just wondering for the session 0 which vc will it be in?

[crude pelican]

The peeps normally go to general

The one with the pink heart

[fickle barn]

👍

[short hare]

what time do we start again?

ah 9 pm

nvm

[fickle barn]

(In 50 minutes right)

[spice bobcat]

[pastel idol]

#1242281898844360744 message

cannon's message here, that can also be seen in pinned messages
has the time converted so it shows in your time

[fickle barn]

Yep thank you

[proud pebble]

@short hare @lofty warren @neat dust @umbral osprey 🫵

[lofty warren]

https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/151742320/ja2vlR

||The Tavern Tale of Hulk Smol, The Honey Badger 🍻

“Gather ‘round, ye drunks and degenerates,
And I’ll sing of Hulk Smol, who fears no regrets.
Three feet of fury, slicked shiny with oil,
He beds beast and beauty, in blood and in soil!”

The bard slams a mug, spilling ale as he gestures wildly.

They say Hulk was born from a keg—literally. His first cry was a burp, his first step a stumble toward the bar. Orphaned? Maybe. Amnesiac? Certainly. But one thing’s for sure: Hulk Smol entered this world naked and sticky, and forty years later… nothing’s changed.

He rampages through taverns, axes flying, coins missing from pouches that were never his, pants missing because he lost them again. They whisper that his leather cloth is still out there, wandering the realms like a relic of shame. Some quest for dragon hoards, others for holy relics—but the bravest adventurers seek Hulk’s missing loincloth.

And as for his precious bits? Legends grow larger than the truth, as legends do. To hear the bard tell it, his manhood could strike down a troll and comfort its widow in the same night. Women, men, goblins, animated furniture—it mattered not. Hulk’s bedroll was the battlefield of love.

Finally, the bard strums hard on his lute and belts the closing verse:

“So raise up your mugs for the Honey Badger’s tale,
He fights, he drinks, and he always prevails.
Naked and roaring, half-drunk through it all,
When Hulk Smol comes knocking—you’ll answer the call!”

The crowd erupts, some laughing, some spitting ale, and one poor bastard swears he was there when Hulk wrestled a dire boar for a kiss.||

[umbral osprey]

ill be playing a glory pally/hexblade , cult hunter inquistor type character

[neat dust]

3,2,4,4=11

4,1,2,6=12

3,1,4,6=13

6,6,2,5=17

2,6,2,4=12

5,3,1,5=13

[crude pelican]

Bad luck bro

Atleast no negative stat

[neat dust]

i think it's pretty good

as long as i have 1 good stats then having no stats below 10 is great

[crude pelican]

My charisma stat is 9

[neat dust]

could be worse

[crude pelican]

Which funnily enough is very fitting for my character

Tends to happen when you don't talk to anyond of only go thugs and smugglers

[lofty warren]

and here i am with int 6

[crude pelican]

To quote someone

"You certainly got rock for brains"

I'll work on my spells in the meantime now too

[neat dust]

this is stats for a new char i'm making cuz making chars is fun

[crude pelican]

Agree

Not wholy on DnD yet but agree

Since I did the same for ES

Maybe there is a good DnD video about the sangromancer subclass

Where was the spell list that eas linked?

@pastel idol

I only get access to the Sangromancy spells once I reach level 2 as a wizard right?

[neat dust]

look what i made

[crude pelican]

Learned how to do screenshots on pc

Isn't this spell kinda good for melee?

Like I don't even have to use my strenght stat

[neat dust]

u could use dex if u want or ur spell mod

seems u can chose

[fickle barn]

I have dm’ed you but for everyone else I’m going be trying the campaign for a few weeks/ months to see if I enjoy it

Just so I know what is everyone playing as like I said I don’t like playing duplicate classes (just a me thing)

[neat dust]

play the way u want and i'm sure u will have fun

[fickle barn]

That is fair I just don’t like duplication of classes

[neat dust]

i think how much fun dnd is often depends more on the player themselves then the dm and group

[neat dust]

understandable

[fickle barn]

I don’t mind other people playing duplicate classes I just don’t

I never have tbh

[neat dust]

sometimes people just have simular ideas it happens

[fickle barn]

True

[neat dust]

specialy if there is no cordination

my character was made i think before i said i wanted to joine

[fickle barn]

That makes sense

[neat dust]

i just really like the idea of a sad reaper

[fickle barn]

😂😂

[neat dust]

and aizo suggested long death monk after i had explained what i wanted and i think it fits

my race and background also fits really well

[fickle barn]

Yh that makes sense

So by the looks we have
A paladin, monk, barbarian

[neat dust]

my race is shadar-kai which live in the raven queens realm and i get her blessing cuz of it and her being a god of death means i can be a reaper by being her servant

[fickle barn]

That makes so much sense as sounds super cool

[neat dust]

and my background gives me a fey mark which makes plants wilt in my precense and this is just a passive effect i think so i don't have to do anything

[fickle barn]

Nice

[neat dust]

plants just die if i'm near

[neat dust]

i think we have 2 barbarians

possibly anyway

[fickle barn]

I was the other

[neat dust]

ah i see

and a rogue

[umbral osprey]

we have 2 pally but one is multiclassing warlock that being me

[neat dust]

[fickle barn]

So a paladin, paladin warlock, monk, barbarian, rogue

[neat dust]

funny enough i had an idea

a campaign where everyone has the exact same char same stats, race, class and background and will subclass or multiclass into the same thing but beyond that it's all the players choise

[fickle barn]

Yh

[fickle barn]

I would not like that

[neat dust]

so they can change their stats with ASI or get different spells

just think it would be fun how much they would differe from each other when everything is almost the same

[fickle barn]

By the looks we kinda need a full caster

(We don’t but it would help)

[neat dust]

and ofc their actions and such is different cuz different players

oh yeah we have no range chars

[fickle barn]

No range and no “real” magic

[neat dust]

cannon yoinked the ranger we could have had

[fickle barn]

Rangers always die or experience trauma

[proud pebble]

bitch

no blaming me

[neat dust]

[fickle barn]

What would people want me to play

[neat dust]

i remember u guys talking about monks having like 100ft of movement is that a specific sub class or just monk?

[fickle barn]

High level monks

[neat dust]

we want u to play what u want to play

[fickle barn]

That is not helpful at all

[neat dust]

indeed it is not

but it is what we want

[fickle barn]

I know

[neat dust]

we want u to have fun and enjoy urself and ur gonna enjoy urself alot more playing a char u want and are excited to play then one we tell u to play

https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Grim_Hollow_Subclasses

[fickle barn]

Well here’s something that might help us let me tell you the characters I’ve played

A sorcerer cleric (who thinks there a cleric)
A abjuration wizard
A paladin warlock
Drakewarden ranger
Changeling bard

[neat dust]

here is a list of sub classes from grim hollow which we are allowed to use for this campaign atleast so u can see if u find something fun there

[fickle barn]

Yh I’ve looked at the barbarian ones

[neat dust]

i'v made a primal spirit barbarian myself

[fickle barn]

Fair

[neat dust]

not useing it tho

[fickle barn]

👍

[neat dust]

i'v just found making chars alot of fun recently

made like 7

[fickle barn]

If we could have started level 3 I have the character lol

But all good I need to make something else

[neat dust]

if u have another char other then barbarian u wanna play but u want lv.3 to make it work then u could work it into ur personal story why they aren't there yet

maybe it's a prelude to them getting their abilities

[fickle barn]

It kind of is a mechanical reason

Why they have to be level 3

[neat dust]

maybe they are simply hidind it untill they warm up to the others

[fickle barn]

The problem is it requires the level steel defender feature

[neat dust]

oh the soup char?

[fickle barn]

Yh

[neat dust]

why did u need that again?

[fickle barn]

Technically I don’t but the character concept is it was wild mage doing experiments in the kitchen and accidentally animated the soup and cauldron

[neat dust]

if u only looked at the barbarians from grim hollow u could have a look at the others see if u find something u like

[fickle barn]

Yh the problem with the grim hollow is I do t have it in dnd beyond so it’s a massive hassle

[proud pebble]

people really forgot how pen and paper works huh

[neat dust]

i'm not familiar with dnd bayond what is it?

[fickle barn]

It’s the official online character builder

[fickle barn]

I just lose stuff lol

[neat dust]

another reason send the sheets to cannon

u lose it he got it for u

[fickle barn]

Also could you send the synopsis to the chat please @proud pebble just so I have it as I don’t want to Google and get spoilers

[proud pebble]

I'll do it when I get up

[fickle barn]

👍👍

(Just ping when you’ve posted it please)

[neat dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tag-gif-13161012535429590073

how does making a char with dnd beyond work?

u don't just fill out the sheet?

[fickle barn]

Sort of

You basically have drop down boxes and tabs

And it does all the maths of skills etc for you

And works out spell save dc etc

[neat dust]

ah so it's for if u wanna be lazy

i mean it's understandable i'v spendt like 3-4 hours making chars

[fickle barn]

Sort of but at the same time I’m lucky being in multiple campaigns I have access to a lot of books but normally you would have to buy all the books

[neat dust]

u need to buy books?

[fickle barn]

Yh

Or be in a campaign with some who has

[neat dust]

what do u need the book for?

[fickle barn]

If you don’t buy anything you only get the basic rules

So you need the players handbook

And then tashas and xanthers for character creation and the dmg for more magic items

And then if you want the path of the giant you would have to pick bigbys boon

Etc

[neat dust]

i think i got the players handbook from cannon

[fickle barn]

Fair

[neat dust]

assumed it was just online

[fickle barn]

👍

[neat dust]

https://dnd5e.wikidot.com

i get most my info from here

i rarely look at the players handbook

[fickle barn]

That’s fair

I have no idea what to play lol

[neat dust]

u have time to decide

instead of trying to think of the class maybe u can try and think of an idea of theme

examples from my own chars

a sad reaper which is my monk

saw the first vampire sub class and decided i wanted to make a bloody mary char

thinking of the one from the infamous 2 dlc

necro posted a pick of a pretty elf and i decided i wanted to make a pretty elf girl char

the primal spirit barbarian i made i had kratos and atreus in mind

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-kratos-atreus-gif-27146714

but instead of bear i'm having a big wolf

and my only 2 chars that doesn't have a particular theme is my first char which is a tabaxi rogue and since it's a tabaxi which is a cat like race i name it Liger which is the name of a cub born from a lion and tiger

[fickle barn]

Fair

I’m asking chat gpt

[neat dust]

and i recently made a new char which copied almost everything liger had but it's meant to go into assassin instead of arcane trickster which liger did and i named that class Felis which is the name of the deadliest cat in the world

[fickle barn]

Fair

@proud pebble sorry for the ping but a question about mounted combat (I know we are doing a dungeon crawl but if im say a goblin and want a mastiff as a mount)

What would the rules be

As I don’t want to be buying mastiffs to die

As I do have a character concept but if depends on the answer

[crude pelican]

@fickle barn wanna do Sangromancer?

What did I want here again?

Ah yes

SNEKE

What will your character be?

[fickle barn]

Nah I have a character concept brewing but I need to see how mounted combat will work as I want to play a goblin riding a mastiff/black bear or any small race (yet to decide) but I need to know as I don’t want to play a character and the mount just die and I need to buy a new one

[lofty warren]

i would just use this https://whothefuckismydndcharacter.com/ @fickle barn

[fickle barn]

Yep

Like I’ve said above I need to wait for the dm to answer about mounted combat and my mount

[lofty warren]

you do know you can be a centaur?

[fickle barn]

I know

But I’m thinking a goblin (caviler fighter) who wants to be a knight

[lofty warren]

or be 3 goblins in a coat 🙂

[fickle barn]

😂😂😂

[proud pebble]

Princes of the Apocalypse is an adventure that has love for one thing and one thing only: dungeon crawling.

This module consists of 13 dungeons. Of these, 3 are devoted to each of the elements (fire, earth, air, water) and 1 is a neutral dungeon. The reason players are crawling through these dungeons is to rescue a delegation from the clutches of 4 crazy cults, each devoted to the 4 elements.

[proud pebble]

It would follow the normal rules for mounted combat

[neat dust]

maybe a lack of spell casters will become a problem

them being devoted to the elements makes me think alot of them will probably be able to cast spells related to those elements

[lofty warren]

@proud pebble i have guide pdf, maps and supliment pdf for our campaign if needed

[proud pebble]

I bought the book

[lofty warren]

i think this thind are from drivethrurpg so made to help and dont come with a book 🙂

[fickle barn]

Ok I’m assuming that means if my mount dies they die there’s nothing even if once the get knocked to 0 they just go unconscious instead of dying

As unless your a paladin who can summon a mount the caviler fight gets shafted

[fickle barn]

Or a beast master ranger

[pastel idol]

same reason I'm reluctant to make a cavalier fighter
if the mount falls, what then?

[fickle barn]

Yh

It’s annoying

Especially if say I’m using a black bear or mastiff it’s either 19 hp of ether bear or 5 for the mastiff one AOE and it dies

Then I’m out a mount and friend

And I don’t want to multi class 5 paladin or 3 ranger

As of I go 3 ranger I wouldn’t get heavy armour (by starting ranger) and also I wouldn’t want to go 4 for the mounted combat feat

And I know it’s a dungeon crawl so traditional mounts aren’t good but that’s normal because a horse is to big lol but a mastiff or a black bear (medium) can

It just needs some aid from god (dm)

[pastel idol]

it's quite normal for a character to be knocked unconscious a couple times during a campaign
if at least the mount went unconscious if it fell to 0, it could be picked back up

[fickle barn]

Yh definitely but the problem is even if you take the black bear with 19 hp

If it takes 40 points of damage in a single attack aoe it’s dead outright even if it goes unconscious the mastiff can take a max of 10

I would happily take it so no matter what the mount goes unconscious when it hits 0 hp and it’s making death saves

No matter the damage it takes

Depending on the out come I might do ranger multiclass caviler go 5 and 3

Probably end 10 and 4

But I would prefer 10 fighter 4 ranger but tbh going 10 ranger 4 fighter makes some sense for the mounted combat to have hp

The thing if I do that is why do I need fighter

[pastel idol]

ranger do get some neat features

[fickle barn]

Yh but beast master

[pastel idol]

drakewarden could also be fun, ride the drake later

[fickle barn]

I am currently playing a drake warden lol

[pastel idol]

neat

[fickle barn]

Yh

[pastel idol]

but yeah beast master at least the animal has an amount of hit points

and can be resummoned

[fickle barn]

Yh

I just don’t get it till level 3

[pastel idol]

a character idea I have, but isn't playing in the current campaign
is a redemption paladin, but it kind of feels like they need to be lv7 to actually like, do stuff(aura of the guardian)
until then, they're just a paladin- at least the fighting style "interception" kind of makes up for it until then

[fickle barn]

Fair

I’m playing what I like to call it a pacifist

[pastel idol]

yeah, that's the plan for mine as well

[fickle barn]

Who doesn’t attack or cast spells in combat

They are a hobgoblin oath of redemption paladin celestial warlock

The spell they use is sanctuary and the help action

[pastel idol]

after lv17, she'd have +17 to persuasion, and temporarily be able to push it to +22
so the plan is to make enemies in and out of combat surrender willingly

[fickle barn]

Yh

[pastel idol]

I forget if you saw it, but there's technically a new subclass for the barbarian in grim hollow: https://grimhollow.fandom.com/wiki/Barbarian:_Path_of_the_Primal_Spirit

that also has a beast companion after level 3

[proud pebble]

you're aware that Drake is playing a paladin/warlock

[fickle barn]

Yh I saw this but you have to use a ba to control it and it goes after you so if your mounting it you wouldn’t be able to move on your turn

[fickle barn]

Yh that’s for another campaign

[proud pebble]

oh gotcha

[pastel idol]

I thought he'd have wanted the oath of zeal but he ended up picking oath of glory

[proud pebble]

he switched to be less murderhoboe

[pastel idol]

[pastel idol]

so uhm.. my cleric can start as 1st level aberrant horror, right?

[proud pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/imjjustamirror-nalakinators-gif-24344767

[pastel idol]

[fickle barn]

Yh cannon I have a character idea but it requires a mount (I want to be a caviler fighter) however they don’t get a mount them self so I would have to either buy one or something but I don’t want it to just die and if I go mastiff or black Bear (can work into my backstory) (could be a bear cub till level 3) if I go that route is there anything we can sort out about it not instantly dying

[proud pebble]

the main issue is that even if I give it the unconscious without dying stuff is just that at a certain point it'll get one shot by just about anything

[pastel idol]

is funny, because it's specifically the flaws I'm intrigued by
"unstable mutation" and "hideous appearance" being a reason she covers up
since she's covered in eyes, and her form is.. well, "unstable"

[pastel idol]

I feel like the designers missed something regarding their mounts

[fickle barn]

Yh that’s the thing as I know there’s a very rare magic item called ravens slumber that basically says when a beast you tamed or given by a class feature gets reduced to 0 it gets teleported into the necklace

But it requires a very rare item

[proud pebble]

yes it's a crit role item

[fickle barn]

Yh

I don’t fully know why it’s very rare

[proud pebble]

I'm probably gonna say no to that
but I will consider the implications of giving a mount more hp as you level up

[fickle barn]

Would you allow my mount to scale the same as say the beast master ranger/ drake warden (5+5xlevel)

But I don’t gain other benefits

[proud pebble]

that's what I'm considering

[fickle barn]

As I would be happy with that and untill level 3 it stays a cub I’m training

So I get the mount at level 3 like other subclasses

[proud pebble]

like I said, I will think about it

[fickle barn]

Ok

Nws

[fickle barn]

Now to decide the race etc as there are a few options

[pastel idol]

I played a tortle in cannon's last campaign, which were a lot of fun

[fickle barn]

Yh I need it to be a small race

[pastel idol]

fairy, riding a dragonfly

[fickle barn]

😂😂

[pastel idol]

there's an additional race included in grim hollow, called "wechselkind" which are basically a substitute left over after faeries abducts a child:
https://www.worldanvil.com/w/etharis-calloi/a/wechselkind-species if that was of interest

their size is "small"

of course, any of the normal races are still fine to pick, if you like the normal ones

[fickle barn]

The mount I’m leaning towards is a black bear tbh so atm what I’ve seen I’ve got a few choices
Goblin
Gnome
Hadozee
Kender
Halfling
Herengon
Kobold

These are what I’m looking at

[crude pelican]

G9v7k9m9doc

Sorry Mindflayer

I wanted to ask how many of the cantrips I can have?

[pastel idol]

I've been wanting to make a harengon ranger or or monk myself sometime

[fickle barn]

That’s fair

[pastel idol]

wizard starts with 3 at level 1, so pick three

[fickle barn]

Tbh I am leaning harengon lol

As I’m a rabbit riding a bear

Now that’s a sight

[pastel idol]

hadozee seems fun as well

[fickle barn]

Yh they do

[pastel idol]

flying squirrel

[fickle barn]

I think I like harengon more tbh lol