he's part of the pantheon of gods in critical role's campaign 3 at least
#YO ANYONE DOWN FOR DND ON NON-STREAM NIGHTS?
pastel idol
umbral osprey
The leading theory is that he's something even stronger, one of 2 primordial beings that were there at the start of creation or something
proud pebble
he does only have 3 resistances per day but again, he can't die, ever
he's kind of the god of the hells almost, as long as the plane exsists, so does he
pastel idol
umbral osprey
pastel idol
ilmater wacks him on the head, asmodeus instantly dies due to vorpal effect
proud pebble
we're doing rise of tiamat next 
proud pebble
*ilmater wacks him on the head, asmodeus instantly dies due to vorpal effect*
comes back 2D12 days later
pastel idol
I don't think ilmater has anything against asmodeus anyway
only other deities he particularly doesn't like, are loviatar and talona
proud pebble
him dying is basically him going: I can't be bothered with this anymore, letting them think they won is easier
umbral osprey
https://youtu.be/fci16qH7fqY?si=e8CRs-ZJqAp8mhaL
This is the theory I was talking about with him being even more op than gods
umbral osprey
love that guy
Nux reacting to his timeline video is how I got into the D&D lore
proud pebble
eww... Nux
proud pebble
which ones are you looking for?
pastel idol
gods
proud pebble
oh they're hard to find because most gods don't have stats
umbral osprey
Aizo is gonna like on of the capstone traits I have planned for cleric style chars , gets you to turn into an avatar of your God for a couple turns 
pastel idol
so apparantly, if you were to fight ilmater, he is between 36 and 42 CR depending on circumstances
he only fights unarmed(+ cleric spells) but his fists are considered +5 keen vorpal weapons, he takes no damage
from any instance of damage below 25, he is resistant to physical, fire, radiant and necrotic, and as a god, restores
all legendary resistances at the top of each round, as well as return his hit points to maximum possible at the top of each round
what is the bbeg from our compaign called again? I forget, but does it have any divine ranks?
proud pebble
So the CR of a god is based on it's rank
Quasi-deity (CR20 - CR24)
Demi-god (CR25 - CR29
Lesser Deity (CR30 - CR34)
Intermediate Deity (CR35 - CR44)
Greater Deity (CR45 - CR54)
Overdeity (CR55 - CR60)
proud pebble
what is the bbeg from our compaign called again? I forget, but does it have any ...
you don't know
pastel idol
So the CR of a god is based on it's rank
Quasi-deity (CR20 - CR24)
Demi-god (CR2...
ilmater considered intermediate
umbral osprey
We have no idea what they are yeah
proud pebble
only main enemy you know is Ras Nsi and he's not a god
umbral osprey
We don't know what ras nsi is tho I do have a guess
proud pebble
feel free to guess, I just won't say if you're right or wrong
umbral osprey
It's more I don't wanna say to spoil others if I am right
pastel idol
ilmater considered intermediate
even though his influence spands the entire multiverse
he feels and knows of, the suffering of every instance of that nature
spanding the entire multiverse, and can intervene in any such case he deems fit
upon which the target of his grace is immediately restored as if taken a long rest
all limps returned and such
proud pebble
you can DM it to me
pastel idol
I like not knowing in-game stuff, even out of game- makes the in-game interactions even better
proud pebble
bro I rolled for random detriments for the vile darkness book and one was increase weight by 20lbs and then another was reduce weight by 20lbs XD
pastel idol
level 20(17 grave cleric/assassin rogue) can do just about 500 damage with "inflict wounds"
pastel idol
level 20(17 grave cleric/assassin rogue) can do just about 500 damage with "infl...
average 300+ with 500 being high roll
umbral osprey
level 20(17 grave cleric/assassin rogue) can do just about 500 damage with "infl...
Multi classing will basically always out damage a build that goes "tall" because D&Ds scaling is very lopsided towards the first 5 levels in a class imo
proud pebble
that's not even a hot take, that's pretty well accepted
pastel idol
grave cleric has access to a feature called "path to the grave"
which gives a creature vulnerability to all damage, until the end of the cleric's next turn
at the meager cost of a single "channel divinity" action
either way, as long as xopah can keep "aura of vitality" running through fights, the bbeg fight surely won't be an issue
err
aura of life, I meant
proud pebble
surely
pastel idol
knowing how frightening shades and undead are specifically in this campaign with max health loss being permanent
I feel much more safe with access to aura of life now
though still only a single 4th spell slot
umbral osprey
Poor xopah is carrying the entire team on her back
pastel idol
was it beans that lost like 20 or so health permanently?
proud pebble
dayum girl how you carry a whole team and that shell at the same time?
yeah was Beans
should've been more but I couldn't remember how much he'd actually lost
pastel idol
is so good in this campaign
umbral osprey
was it beans that lost like 20 or so health permanently?
Yep , and skarath is missing 4 fingers from trying to pet a snapping turtle , xan is traumatized from hags too
proud pebble
I think he went down to 9hp in one crit or something like that
so he would have 9 max hp
pastel idol
dayum girl how you carry a whole team and that shell at the same time?
I mean, she is constantly hurting, due to her connection to ilmater's influence
directly feeling eveyrone's pain on herself
is also why I like warding bond, since it makes a lot of sense for her
proud pebble
I imagine Xopah's sense is more locally based however
pastel idol
naturally
pastel idol
Xopah is probably in chult
something like that, but maybe not even that wide
umbral osprey
Meanwhile My goddess is just a nekkid dancing drow
pastel idol
as long as the rest of the team can do good damage, I can keep you all alive
aura of life is a concentration spell as well
so I can't have that and guardian spirits
I do have +3 to conc saves, +advantage due to warcaster though
umbral osprey
I do get extra attack on the next level which let's me attack 3 times a turn but I probably need a 2nd sword cuz my main one flies away for 4 rounds after I use its skill
My plan was to get shadowblade but now I know I can't get high level wizard spells from levels in bard that fell apart
pastel idol
casts spiritual weapon, and let's xan wield it- moves it by magic back to him once flung
umbral osprey
Yoo 2 flying weapons 
Telekinetic spell blade is one of my favorite archetypes in fantasy
violet cave
@proud pebble one shot roulette, wild magic sorcerer with decks
proud pebble
not how spiritual weapon works unfortunetly
umbral osprey
Cannon could also give me one of these 
https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:moonblade
violet cave
He already gave us a weapon! It's called Holy Avenger with a saurian on the side!
umbral osprey
Yeah but I am not a paladin that's necros sword once Dragon bait loses his life to.... a weirdly tragic pit and beans
proud pebble
dragonbait has more hp then all of you
violet cave
Yeah but I am not a paladin <:potastDerp:814620719290777641> that's necros sword...
Well congrats dipwad, you just exposed your plan
None of you save Xopah has Command anyways to make him drop the weapon
umbral osprey
I do
violet cave
How???
umbral osprey
Bard
umbral osprey
Nope
violet cave
Nope
Bards having access to counterspell will help us- welp we're screwed
Did NO ONE take counterspell?
umbral osprey
Opted for speak with death over it
umbral osprey
Maybe next level 🤷♂️
violet cave
Opted for speak with death over it
YOU HAVE A CLERIC WHO CAN ALREADY DO THAT
pastel idol
counterspell and silvery barbs are probably some of the best reactions in dnd
umbral osprey
I have barbs
pastel idol
umbral osprey
Also shield makes that list for sure
proud pebble
so use magic, noted
violet cave
If the Bladesinger didn't bring counterspell we might be truly boned since we have a Yuan ti cult leader to worry about
pastel idol
xopah will simply have silence up in that entire fight-- no magic
violet cave
pastel idol
violet cave
xopah will simply have silence up in that entire fight-- no magic
Good call tbh, although we'll still need to tie them up and blind them
pastel idol
I keep forgetting that not everyone can willy-nilly switch their spells each rest
I've been spoiled by cleric
violet cave
I've been spoiled by cleric
Cleric druid and paladin, the holy trinity of "imagine needing to learn spells"
umbral osprey
https://dnd5e.wikidot.com/wondrous-items:matalotok
Cold bonks
umbral osprey
violet cave
Booooo
umbral osprey
Nah give it to hanvur
proud pebble
y'all getting no legendary magic items unless the book says so
violet cave
What if we bribed you to write it into the book
pastel idol
you know what we'll do for the cult leader fight? xopah banishes the leader
then we simply place 324574534633464 traps down for their return
proud pebble
Would have to be a very big bribe
umbral osprey
Cannon has already been generous 3 of us come with already magic gear necro and aiz's shields and my sword
proud pebble
It's been a while since I got to make lv20 characters for fun
pastel idol
Cannon has already been generous 3 of us come with already magic gear <:potastLO...
somewhere in the distance, xopah weeps silently as she hugs her shield; the last remnant of her dead tribe
umbral osprey
I mean same with xan his sword is the last thing that remains of his clan after a lolth drow clan set fire to his home
violet cave
Cannon was gracious enough to let me a robot
violet cave
*somewhere in the distance, xopah weeps silently as she hugs her shield; the las...
Skil issue
pastel idol
xopah's shield belonged to the elder of her tribe, that's all she know of its history prior to her taking it up
he used to go on adventures himself, before settling down in to be the "village elder"
umbral osprey
Xan's is an old family heirloom said to be blessed by eilisatrae herself
pastel idol
proud pebble
well with the evil paladin made... I think the good paladin clearly takes it tbh
in a 1v1 at least
in a general party sense the evil paladin is way stronger
pastel idol
oathbreakers are basically melee necromancers after all
umbral osprey
The evil guy wouldn't fight fair , he'd bring minions
proud pebble
So evil paladin has resistance to fire, radiant, necrotic, non-magical physical and poison
immunity to cold
AC20
188 HP
Advantage on all spell saves
Advantage on being grappled
and regenerates 1d6 hp per turn
proud pebble
does she resist fire, radiant, necrotic, poison and non-magical physical damage tho?
proud pebble
pastel idol
proud pebble
still this was fun
evil paladin probably makes some kind of lair with traps and undead minions
good paladin fights his way thorugh
eventually gets to him and slightly wins
pastel idol
if it's actually "fight at the end of the world" with both holding their respective books
the evil paladin's end goal may even be to resurrect one of the gods or something
proud pebble
probably yeah
book of vile darkness just does so much less then the book of exalted deeds
proud pebble
the point of it is that it moves around so you wouldn't have it for long
umbral osprey
if it's actually "fight at the end of the world" with both holding their respect...
Not thinking evil enough, he'd wanna set himself up to be a God instead
pastel idol
pastel idol
the good book is straight up overpowered, even for a legendary item
backlash radiant damage if hit, increase wisdom score by 2, up to 24, increase all spell levels cast by 1
and that's without the 2 beneficial effects
even if it only had the spell level thing, it'd be incredible
proud pebble
meanwhile book of darkness is just:
control evil creatures (maybe)
umbral osprey
Smh the evil writers gotta step up thier game
pastel idol
only good creatures can attune to the book, and must spend 80 hours to study/read it
evil creatures that tries take 24d6 unavoidable/unreducable radiant damage, and if this kills it, the creature is "destroyed"
after which the book vanishes to "somewhere else"
the book also vanishes to "somewhere else" after it's been perused by the "good" reader
but no doubt the book is either like, "gone somewhere"
or locked up in the most secure holy church/city there is
umbral osprey
I think 4 months?
pastel idol
I wonder when "shell defense" objectively is worth more than "dodge action"
with shell defense, xopah would have 25ac
otherwise 21 with advantage
pastel idol
also shell defense technically makes me prone, so enemies get advantage
umbral osprey
I think 21 with advantage is already better than 25 without the advantage to getting hit but I can't remember how the math is done
proud pebble
depends on the to hit of the attacker I'd assume tbh
damn you emails from mini companies with special offers, tempting me into buy minis when I don't want too
umbral osprey
resist , almost there for the dragon
ancient sun
my entrance exam is 3 days after that :monkaS
umbral osprey
more D&D system progress , decided on the basic set of races ill include traits for , anything else will just be intended to be added content
neat dust
coworkers roomate was in a car accident so got asked if i could take her shift so i might be late on saturday unless she finds someone else who can take the shift
proud pebble
more D&D system progress , decided on the basic set of races ill include traits ...
good to know that human is the only race that will fuck anything to make a child
umbral osprey
good to know that human is the only race that will fuck anything to make a child
yep , the only reason i didnt make hybrid beast races is the whole "not the same equipment" debacle
pastel idol
yep , the only reason i didnt make hybrid beast races is the whole "not the same...
plays rabbitfolk bard
umbral osprey
a bunny with a lute
the amount of horny in a bunny bard tho 
and here is the hooman race
you start the build with 3 racial points and gain one more every 3 levels
my game ends at lvl 12 so you can only ever have 7 points worth
umbral osprey
daymn , no one cares huh
proud pebble
umbral osprey
I am looking for feedback tell me if something looks broken , what looks fun and what looks boring
pastel idol
the two I picked are clearly stronger than the rest
cheat death, and any sort of flat reduction to damage
umbral osprey
cheat death, and any sort of flat reduction to damage
Cheating death once , twice If you spend 3 more points of your total 7 on it is fine , the flat damage reduction perhaps should be 1 instead of 2 tho yeah
proud pebble
I am looking for feedback <:potastDerp:814620719290777641> tell me if something ...
the internal power is a little off in places
like why is versatile cheaper then social? isn't it just more points for cheaper?
umbral osprey
the internal power is a little off in places
like why is versatile cheaper then ...
Because of the restriction on versatile , you can only have 1 point in the checks you use it on
But yeah in practice it might prove too strong
proud pebble
Because of the restriction on versatile , you can only have 1 point in the check...
I'm just thinking that if I'm a social character then I would always want versitile because it's cheaper and gives me extra points in the stuff I want
umbral osprey
I'm just thinking that if I'm a social character then I would always want versit...
I just noticed that i typed out the restriction wrong, what I mean is versatile always locks you into 1/4 in that particular skill
So yes you get an extra point but you're never scaling past that
The intention being for it to be used as filler to get you to stat breakpoints
umbral osprey
base elf traits both drows and wood elfs can pick from these on top of having thier own tables
umbral osprey
and here is the first elf subrace next up the drow
am i spamming? you'd tell me if i was spamming right guys?
proud pebble
am i spamming? you'd tell me if i was spamming right guys? <:potastS:81462071237...
we would tell you if you were spamming
proud pebble
neat dust
we are starting 3 hours before jeannies stream right?
i will probably be late
work ends when we start
proud pebble
and here is the first elf subrace <:potastDerp:814620719290777641> next up the d...
the rank 2 abilites seem real strong XD
umbral osprey
the rank 2 abilites seem real strong XD
numbers can always be fixed
proud pebble
it's more the getting advantages that I would be concerned about tbh
umbral osprey
the only one i am concerned about is the easier crit and the rerolls on in lvl 3 ngl
i dont think some advantages are game breaking
proud pebble
the rerolls are probably fine, maybe 5 is too many tho
it's not game breaking but it seems very cheap to get them
umbral osprey
🤷♂️ if its op it'll show in playtests i guess
a balance lever would be adding stacks to it
proud pebble
I mean for 3 points as a wood elf I can have an infinite range bow with no disadvantage, +2 to hit and crit on a 19
umbral osprey
not +2 points in diciplines determine the die you roll so with 2 you're rolling 2d10s instead of a d20 at one point or a single d10 at 0
the + comes form your stat total and nothing else
but yeah the only thing i am conserned about is that crit on a 19 cuz if you go any higher than 2 points you're rolling with a total of 24 using 3d8s and 4d6
umbral osprey
drow subrace completed onto the dwarfs
umbral osprey
and here are the base dwarf traits
violet cave
we are starting 3 hours before jeannies stream right?
Yup
ancient sun
do the timezone thingy
cuz theres like no way im gonna make it in time for it if the start is 19:00 UTC
At the earliest im gonna 100% be on time would be 20:00 UTC but otherwise i might run 15-40 minutes late
burnt sorrel
Sorry it's late notice but I'm not gonna make it this week, got a work meeting that lined up perfectly with your start time -_-
violet cave
Sorry it's late notice but I'm not gonna make it this week, got a work meeting t...
Well @umbral osprey , time for Sparks to do some scouting alone
umbral osprey
yep
violet cave
At least you have George
umbral osprey
surely he wont fuck this up
sudden frost
I... am going to have trouble making it this weekend.
violet cave
@ancient sun @neat dust 
ancient sun
I told ya i was gonna be late
neat dust
whats happening? 
ancient sun
For the current day elara has the foretelling rolls of 17 and a NAT 20
neat dust
3 and nat 1 got it
ancient sun
neat dust
this is the guys from the guild right?
violet cave
yes
neat dust
ancient sun
My death saves have been reset by long rest right?
violet cave
yes
ancient sun
proud pebble
umbral osprey
dont fuck with the mafia boss
sudden frost
dont fuck with the mafia boss <:potastLOL:814620715859836938>
I mean, their children often wind up dead, so ya
neat dust
i had alot of not so good rolls today 
ancient sun
better luck next time
neat dust
i'm burning that boat
ancient sun
lets hope we remember shit
i havent been taking notes on other than my dreams and random shenanigans and the library
neat dust
i'm traumatized by the loss of my tail
umbral osprey
i hope you learned your lesson at the very least
neat dust
proud pebble
so no, he hasn't
neat dust
i learned thiefling bad
burnt sorrel
meeting done who died?
proud pebble
yes
neat dust
i lost my tail 
umbral osprey
no one died but val fucked with the mafia and lost his tail
neat dust
i deserve more cookies
umbral osprey
not if you keep robbing people and getting in trouble
neat dust
the cookies doesn't count as robbing
i'm like a kid grabbing stuff from dads pockets just to see if i can and then showing off how sneaky i was
umbral osprey
that IS robbery
neat dust
besides all my attempts to rob someone has been successfull so far
i just didn't try to rob the thieflings
neat dust
tieflings
proud pebble
sucessful crime is still crime
neat dust
is it still a crime if no one knows it happend
proud pebble
yes
umbral osprey
basically demon dudes
umbral osprey
proud pebble
bruh
umbral osprey
liger becoming tiefling racist was not on my bingo card
neat dust
i forgot the name of the dude but i will have hes tail and trangle him with it if possible
umbral osprey
its gonna be a while until you can probably , that guy must be a high level caster
proud pebble
why burn ship when you could steal ship
neat dust
was hoping i could sink it with some of them onboard and lessen the amount of people i would have to deal with
or we i mean
can i learn fireball
?
not now ofc but later
umbral osprey
arcane tricksters get 3rd level spells at lvl 13 , which i think justin said we will end just short of
you'll get other fire spells tho
neat dust
damn it
i'v just seen alot of memes and short vids about fireball so i assume it's good and it's aoe
proud pebble
Val, I'm gonna be honest tho
this is 100% your fault, at any point you could've decided not to do this
umbral osprey
its really good , but your class isnt meant to be a primary caster so it gets powerful spells later on
neat dust
Val, I'm gonna be honest tho
this is 100% your fault, at any point you could've ...
indeed it is
umbral osprey
wizards and sorcerers get fireball at lvl 5 for example
neat dust
i mean to me it just sounded like shady people doing business i was curious what was going on
umbral osprey
yeah and snooping on shady people can get you shanked
neat dust
see if i could learn something usefull or find something valuable
proud pebble
yeah and snooping on shady people can get you shanked <:potastLOL:81462071585983...
*will
neat dust
yeah and snooping on shady people can get you shanked <:potastLOL:81462071585983...
i was unlucky
i still have +7 on stealth
umbral osprey
how much gold you got btw
neat dust
15
proud pebble
95
neat dust
was i not the one who opend the crated with the body parts?
umbral osprey
but he did lose an ability score
oh god regenerate is lvl 7 thats even wose
worse*
proud pebble
greater restoration won't give him is tail back
umbral osprey
at least will give him the dex back i think
proud pebble
probably not tbh, he gets the -1 for not having his tail so logically he'd need it back to get rid of the -1
not like it's a curse or something
umbral osprey
fair
neat dust
yeah tail comes back i get dex back 
i'm more concerned with my tail then my stats
does tail do anything? probably not
umbral osprey
so we still need a 13th level caster to heal your tail
umbral osprey
okay , apparently a 7th level spell costs 6400G sooooooo
neat dust
to late now but if i had gotten my tail from the water couldn't we have stitched it back on?
umbral osprey
you're gonna need to start making money val
umbral osprey
to late now but if i had gotten my tail from the water couldn't we have stitched...
would be cosmetic , i dont think nerve surgery is a thing in D&D
neat dust
isn't the idea that body will seek to heal itself so if the body part is kept in place there is a decent chance it will go back to normal?
umbral osprey
nah not for amputations
neat dust
i see
i was concidering grabbing the rapier and running or drawing my sword cast booming blade and attack the boss
proud pebble
you would have died
umbral osprey
if you attacked them you'd have 100% died
umbral osprey
at least that 16 int worked there
neat dust
the entier time i thought they were some upset smugglers
umbral osprey
i honestly think that the guy with the fancy swrod might be the BBEG
neat dust
BBEG?
umbral osprey
big bad evil guy , basically the final boss of a D&D game
umbral osprey
we killed the white skin dude
neat dust
we sure we killed the real one?
umbral osprey
or at least we think we did
they also could be the same person
cuz he was a changeling
neat dust
true
i assumed the shadowy people was made by him somehow but why he would make one of himself
umbral osprey
🤷♂️ we dont know enough yet , the whole deal seems to be way bigger than we thought
umbral osprey
yeah alot
you're gonna get your health back on a long rest anyways
this is what it does
neat dust
could i down myself in an effort to trick the person who can use regenerate into useing it to save my life?
umbral osprey
they can use any weaker healing spell
neat dust
umbral osprey
a 13th level caster is a BIG deal val , there would probably only be like 10 of them in the whole world
umbral osprey
pretty much
a lvl 20 wizard can litearlly summon meteors
clerics can start full on resurrecting people
neat dust
does that mean a level 20 me would be loki 
umbral osprey
at lvl 17 you'll be able to straight up steal spells from people's brains
but we wont be going that high
burnt sorrel
irl that would kill a bish
neat dust
but in dnd?
burnt sorrel
tis but a flesh wound
umbral osprey
if u dropped a 10 pound rock from 30 feet on someones head would that knock them...
No idea how Justin would rule that ngl
No built in rules for it
neat dust
just thinking of uses for the mage hand
i wonder if i could make daggers out of tiefling horns
maybe arrow heads as well
umbral osprey
neat dust
now to be clear i won't attack any tieflings on sight but if they are in that mob family then the chances are decently high i will wanna kill them
umbral osprey
I hope we get matched with a tiefling ally at some point
sudden frost
That session was weird, because I have 4 rolls in a row where the two I was proficient in wound up less than 10, but the ones I wasn't proficient in were over 10. Moral of the story: never train.
violet cave
That's just DND for you
I've been in a session where the rogue of the group rolled four nat 1s just to crawl inside a grate
spice bobcat
@proud pebble am I right in that I'm still an hour ahead of everyone else?
spice bobcat
proud pebble
<@&1248006648744902809> session tomorrow starts at whatever time Jeannie's stream starts for you, remember to have a thonk about what/where you want to go in the city
scarlet crescent
I want to swim in the tomato soup
umbral osprey
that can be arranged after what you did to the guide
proud pebble
turn about is fair play
umbral osprey
but beans does have a good shout , the lava castle is the closest "landmark" to us apart from just following the road
now do we want to go into the ominous lava castle ? probably not yet lol
spice bobcat
I assume that would be a later objective
proud pebble
who said it was ominous? it's just stranded in the middle of a lava lake caused by a meteor from outer space carrying otherworldly beings
umbral osprey
its surrounded by a flock of bats
proud pebble
no, that was the circle bit north of the lava lake
umbral osprey
ah so that entire side of the map is cursed , got it
umbral osprey
yeah i am considering our options
considering we ran out of hints ish except for what is likely the name of the next god
i think xan would be of the mind to follow the road and not go towards the spoopy castle of doom
proud pebble
but what if it's a critical shrine... just saying
umbral osprey
then thats future us problem
proud pebble
umbral osprey
now i wanna play that character
umbral osprey
thats it if xan dies i am playing a wildsorc/glambard and singing all my combat actions
proud pebble
bold of you to assume you get another character is Xan dies
proud pebble
*death promises
neat dust
https://tenor.com/view/ashita-no-joe-joe-yabuki-promise-anime-tomorrow's-joe-gif-3919930768456303925
umbral osprey
first dwarf subrace done , now to the mountain dwarfs
neat dust
i have severly underestimated how much work u would be putting into this
umbral osprey
making games is a hobby of mine
neat dust
feels like ur making an entire game just based on dnd
neat dust
yeah i thought it would be more like regular dnd but with some custom rules or something
umbral osprey
i theory craft tons of games that no one ends up playing anyways , so having people excited to try this is making me way more motivated ngl
neat dust
if u wanna make money u could make it with meme classes
umbral osprey
nah publishing this would mean a hell of a lot more work and i'd need money for distribution
neat dust
people would buy a dnd game like game where there is a class called rizzler which is basicaly bard
umbral osprey
people would buy a dnd game like game where there is a class called rizzler whic...
i'd rather end myself that write that val ngl
umbral osprey
cease
neat dust
a meower
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proud pebble
nah publishing this would mean a hell of a lot more work and i'd need money for ...
you could put it up as a pdf on DM's Guild
umbral osprey
you could put it up as a pdf on DM's Guild
Yeah but I wouldn't be happy with it enough to do that unless I started making artwork for everything and written flavor text and shit
proud pebble
ok, but that could still be done, just saying
violet cave
<@&1248006648744902809> session tomorrow starts at whatever time Jeannie's strea...
Can we mark off the hexes we're already been to
Also I think before we go into the city, maybe we should look for the other shrines/statues
This is in no way me rattling the party to use their toolkits
proud pebble
Can we mark off the hexes we're already been to
I think that's where you've been
cause it was the gatehouse, up to the compound with Orvex, then left to the first shrine, then right to the second shrine
proud pebble
send me the ones you want to use and I'll decide on a case by case basis
ancient sun
I get only one more spell but ive been torn on this as im not sure if i want that or sickening radiance
and it will depend on whether or not i can use UA version or not
I mean the average dmg on the UA version is litterally 10 more with UA than normal
proud pebble
I'd say no, the UA version is too much better then other 4th lv combat spells
proud pebble
Compared to 3rd lv spells like fireball the base does less damage but gains incapacitate which imo is well worth it
compared to 4th lv spells it does less damage but has longer range and has incapacitate
the UA version would have it doing more damage and the incapacitate, it's just a little too much
ancient sun
Yeah, i get that
welp, good thing i asked that before i started using it
Do u want the sheet?
proud pebble
I appreciate you asked
ancient sun
I mean
that much i forgot to change
but
im still adding the info of the new spells
So i dont gotta google it every time
one of these will be the spell i take next lvl up
proud pebble
yeah, whatever is easiest for you basically
ancient sun
I mean
it would be easiest if i could have this shit it finnish
but then you wouldnt understand anything ive written on there
proud pebble
you could still write your notes of spell effects in Finnish
proud pebble
like I just need to know the names of your spells and abilites, I can look up the effects
proud pebble
nah, the one you sent is fine
umbral osprey
Is this about me not taking counterspell?
violet cave
maybe
proud pebble
*casts meteor swarm 3 times
umbral osprey
*casts meteor swarm 3 times
If there another 9th level spell caster in our future I think we die regardless if I have counter spell or not
proud pebble
well this is awkward
violet cave
@ancient sun @spice bobcat @pastel idol @scarlet crescent 
violet cave
what time is it now
violet cave
proud pebble
also known as Jeannie's stream time
ancient sun
ill be there in like 15 unless i go make some sandwhiches
last fuckin week we did normal time where DLS hadnt hit but apparently UK has them this week
violet cave
violet cave
ill be there in like 15 unless i go make some sandwhiches
last fuckin week we d...
DLS happened after last session, we had Kavinor during DLS
burnt sorrel
violet cave
@umbral osprey
violet cave
@spice bobcat
spice bobcat
violet cave
GET INERE
spice bobcat
now it'll be 15 more minutes
violet cave
10
pastel idol
proud pebble
violet cave
Positing this discussion to the group here
In D&D do you think it's possible to perform an autopsy on a body and identify if it died from spell damage
proud pebble
probably yes
micro splinters of Ice if they died from an ice spell for example
flash burns from a fire spell
spice bobcat
prof in medicine maybe
ancient sun
I got medicine prof
violet cave
Accelerated decay from necrotic dmg or ruptured organs from thunder damage
umbral osprey
Lightning leaves very particular scars if you're ever hit by it so that will be easily noticed too
proud pebble
so tldr, yes, it'd be fully possible
spice bobcat
i think you could easily role a coroner/detective if you build it right
umbral osprey
My character for sneks one-shot was that
3levels into investigator rogue and 1 into knowledge cleric
ancient sun
we still havent done pt2
scarlet crescent
umbral osprey
dwarfs are done , now i have to make orcs then the beastfolk and then onto backgrounds then classes
violet cave
<@254882873750847488>
No this was me in the League outpost fight
umbral osprey
No this was me in the League outpost fight
you did it to cannon in the dragon fight tho when you summoned like 8 spiders
umbral osprey
orcs are done , only beastfolk remain
umbral osprey
and with this , all the racials are finished
proud pebble
umbral osprey
background system being worked on you get one from each
for 8000 unique combinations
neat dust
maybe pet owner should be pet trainer?
idk if owning a pet is a hobby
but training pets could be
umbral osprey
this took so long
umbral osprey
20 choices in 3 categories for 8000 combinations
all that remains is class traits
i will finish this
proud pebble
but can I roll for them?
proud pebble
umbral osprey
but dont blame me when your character ends up a cortesan thats a madwoman with a habit of gardening
proud pebble
pirate, monk, cook
umbral osprey
A monk living the pirate life spreading the lore of some underwater God by serving seafood
pastel idol
pirate, monk, cook <:soukaidab:1319041775846948926>
a pirate.. who kicks.. and cooks
umbral osprey
https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-sanji-sanji-one-piece-sanji-crying-gif-24471024
Too horny to be a monk
neat dust
Coworker asked to switch shift so if i say yes i will be late tomorrow
umbral osprey
So I figured out what breed the loud dog that always barks when we play is it's a brittany spaniel @spice bobcat
neat dust
i won't be late after all 
umbral osprey
basically everything that happened and what do you plan to say during the debriefing
neat dust
got it
umbral osprey
i just got roped into a family visit which will likely overlap game time
neat dust
bring dice and play there
umbral osprey
i wish
violet cave
<@&1284336728831950879> we are doing D&D tmrw
umbral osprey
i just got roped into a family visit which will likely overlap game time
@violet cave sparks will be sleeping in a box somewhere tmr
violet cave
got it
sudden frost
Death by spell damage: Most fictional systems have an ability to detect the presence of magic itself. But in every fictional system I've seen that dies off fast, so that after 48 hours you have to move to augury, object reading, or mundane autopsy. If you luck out and someone's lazy you could kill a sick person with psychic damage and no one would know. But even there it's likely that the damage has physical effects on the brain which, if the autopsy is thorough, would be discovered. Bruising of the brain might be possible, and that would be a dead giveaway if the skull were intact.
Now, what's far more possible and interesting: you could probably cover up a mundane stabbing with magical ice wounds, letting a spellcaster take the fall for a mundane murder.
neat dust
was the stuff from the purple worm i licked saliva?
proud pebble
you'll get one more spell next level
neat dust
i know what i want
violet cave
was the stuff from the purple worm i licked saliva?
It was its mucus
violet cave
<@254882873750847488> sparks will be sleeping in a box somewhere tmr
Sparks will have to be there for the debrief, but I will write that he's just silent and smart enough to not say a thing
proud pebble
so not saying stuff is the smart choice
neat dust
It was its mucus
hmm i was wondering what it came from cuz if it wasn't from the mouth and instead from the body it could mean it's a trait developed to deter predators and i got curious what could be the predators of those worms
umbral osprey
Sparks will have to be there for the debrief, but I will write that he's just si...
Hes there , just asleep on yaromir's shoulder, they think he's a pet
violet cave
They literally just encoded your memories of the mission but aite
sudden frost
I thought so - grabbing headphones
proud pebble
I thought it was now but I'm forever unsure thanks to Daylight savings
burnt sorrel
It was 3 hours before Jeannie's stream which is now
umbral osprey
I managed to leave the family gathering early , be home in ~30
proud pebble
huzzah
sudden frost
Razina: Cleric of Solarion. (pursuing path of stars eventually) Knowledge domain cleric, inquisitive rogue.
sudden frost
matching a given roll with 4 d6s: 8.09% chance. Rolling a 20: 2.70%. Both combined: 0.219% chance.
neat dust
can control flame create fire or only control excisting fire?
violet cave
Flash Dynamite
As an action, a creature can light a stick of flash dynamite and throw it at a point up to 60 feet away. Each creature within 5 feet of that point must make a DC 14 Dexterity saving throw, taking 3d6 radiant damage on a failed save, or half as much damage on a successful one. Creatures that fail the save are also blind for 5 turns.
A character can bind sticks of dynamite together so they explode at the same time. Each additional stick increases the damage by 1d6 (to a maximum of 10d6) and the burst radius by 5 feet (to a maximum of 20 feet).
Dynamite can be rigged with a longer fuse to explode after a set amount of time, usually 1 to 6 rounds. Roll initiative for the dynamite. After the set number of rounds goes by, the dynamite explodes on that initiative.
Brass Storm Gauntlet: Wearing it gives you the Lightning Lure cantrip
proud pebble
<@&1248006648744902809> We are starting at the time of THIS MESSAGE on Monday
just so we're all clear
umbral osprey
<t:1742853600:F>
sudden frost
Thank you!
umbral osprey
i hate timezones
umbral osprey
when i did monday 12 am you guys said it was wrong
burnt sorrel
i guess try ruesday then
proud pebble
it would be Tuesday at 12am
neat dust
it showed sunday
umbral osprey
is that right?
proud pebble
yes
umbral osprey
yep
umbral osprey
its because its on the turn of the day for me that i got confused lol
techincally its tuseday when it happens
umbral osprey
@pastel idol @proud pebble for being the first 2 to show interest in my game ill let you 2 choose a character archetype to be added in when i am making my class traits , the rules being that it shouldnt be a derivative of any of the standard archytpes , IG paladins are just warriory clerics
pastel idol
proud pebble
are the classes like in Path of exile? like I'm a warrior/cleric and therefore play like a paladin?
umbral osprey
yes
proud pebble
ahh
umbral osprey
just like how you saw everything with the races was traits
you get a certain amount of points each level
which you can just pick traits from anywhere
so if you want to play a deathknight you can go get points from warrior and necromancer for example
this is what i got so far , i want to have 25
pastel idol
this is what i got so far , i want to have 25
time to do what game designers do best; steal ideals
proud pebble
Knight?
proud pebble
abilities that make you better at mounted combat
umbral osprey
english is hard
proud pebble
classic heavy armoured knight on a horse
pastel idol
I don't see an archer type on there
umbral osprey
i dont want to do specific classes for weapons cuz any class can be an archer if they want to
think bigger aizo , what CANT be done except if you are dedicated to it
pastel idol
my favourite class in dnd is a homebrew class of the monk, that uses archery
"zen archer"
I'm not a game designer though, so I don't know game things
umbral osprey
i dont expect you to know game design things , just wanted to reward you for being interested in my slop
pastel idol
the traits of the zen archer, is that it turns the monk's standard melee abilities into ranged abilities
and utilizes wisdom for attacks instead of dexterity- also has traits as it levels that gives extreme aim and such
even ignoring cover
umbral osprey
yeah but see how thats just a monk with archery flavor? , so it would be under the monk class
pastel idol
yeah but see how thats just a monk with archery flavor? , so it would be under t...
exactly, your game allows this, dnd it's "homebrew" 
umbral osprey
umbral osprey
i hope that sticks after you play
proud pebble
a Yabusame
umbral osprey
whats dat
proud pebble
that's probably very wrong grammatically
umbral osprey
ah
proud pebble
trying to find a fancier name then "mounted archer"
umbral osprey
that would just be the chevalier with archery spec
proud pebble
I mean sure, kinda
umbral osprey
added a couple more , 6 to go
pastel idol
rename it to dancer
I want a class that focuses on auras, but isn't melee, and isn't a healer
umbral osprey
sorry if i am shooting down your ideas aiz
umbral osprey
I want a class that focuses on auras, but isn't melee, and isn't a healer
so like an enchanter?
pastel idol
umbral osprey
like... thinking sona?
proud pebble
enchanter would be cool
pastel idol
something like that, but my mind went to ffxiv dancer
umbral osprey
i am into it
pastel idol
auras by performing in battle
"performing" isn't locked down to a single type of performance
umbral osprey
i was wanting a fae magic themed class and enchanter seems to fit the bill
with a few points in bard you'd have your performer
add some in acrobat and thats a magical dancer
btw you wont feel like excessive multiclassing takes away from power like it does in D&D , because as long as you meet the stat requirements you'll be able to pick up any ability in the class
proud pebble
so 5 more classes?
umbral osprey
yep
neat dust
a cursed class
proud pebble
depends on how easy it is to come up with 5 more ideas
umbral osprey
i do feel like i covered all the basis tho
neat dust
kinda like a monk but ur cursed so that if u touch a living thing u drain their life force and if u touch anything thing non metal is starts to rust or wither
proud pebble
aside from just adding in the other schools of magic as classes
pastel idol
a class that cannot be multiclassed into, and is a ghost that haunts another player character
umbral osprey
aside from just adding in the other schools of magic as classes
anything that isnt on there feels too derivative from wizard
or arcanist as i called it
neat dust
an idea i saw in a short is a ghost and zombie coming from the same person so the ghost is just watching it's own zombiefied body do stupid stuff
umbral osprey
like i did sperate out magic cuz i wanted to curb the power of casters a bit , but if i start quantizing them it will be going too far
proud pebble
might need to make sure the descriptions of the classes make it clear what they do that's different to arcanist then
neat dust
imagine if the ghost could worke the zombie body like a puppeteer
umbral osprey
might need to make sure the descriptions of the classes make it clear what they ...
fair
proud pebble
is there a "warlock" class?
pastel idol
would a "cleric/priest" of cthulhu" fall under that?
umbral osprey
pretty much
pastel idol
umbral osprey
you might wanna pick up a few preist traits to get some religious abilites
i was split on putting in ranger or not cuz even in D&D they feel like they could have been a druid subclass , but maybe you can sway me cannon
proud pebble
I'm mostly thinking they're good at the exploration side of things, maybe with monster study abilites
neat dust
charmer? u can seduce, manipulate and control people, creatures and such
umbral osprey
charmer? u can seduce, manipulate and control people, creatures and such
thats enchanter
neat dust
i see
umbral osprey
"Merchant" does damage based on amount of coin in their purse
great magic item , not really a class
some gold plated sword that does more damage the more money you have
umbral osprey
I'm mostly thinking they're good at the exploration side of things, maybe with m...
maybe a hunter , really lean into the tracking aspect of the ranger , and can also become a bounty hunter
neat dust
geologist specialises in rocks and minerals and can use them somehow?
pastel idol
can the arcanist summon things?
proud pebble
The basic D&D structure is:
Combat
Social
Explore
umbral osprey
can the arcanist summon things?
elementals and the like
proud pebble
I'm just thinking a class that focuses on the explore more then the combat and social
umbral osprey
occultist summons horrors from beyond , and necromancer well... you know , some priest skills might let you drop angels on the field
pastel idol
I was remembering an old game I played, that had a "blacksmith" class
but they were a fighter that summoned weapons to fight with
proud pebble
like Erza Scarlett?
pastel idol
kind of
umbral osprey
wait how the fuck did i not add a telekenitic focused class yet
umbral osprey
what is wrong with me thats one of my favourite shiticks
umbral osprey
https://tenor.com/view/irelia-gif-26847577
best champion
and exactly what i thought of to trigger the idea of a telekenitic class
now what to name it
umbral osprey
yeah
proud pebble
psyonic
neat dust
conduit controls electrisity of any kind including bioelectricity and magnetic fields
umbral osprey
too narrow , again can just be spells from the other classes
pastel idol
psionic
always been interested in playing this class in dnd
fighter do have a psionic subclass
neat dust
too narrow , again can just be spells from the other classes
was basicaly saying this guys
proud pebble
psionic is it's own class technically just only ever as an Unearthed Arcana
umbral osprey
yeah just a lightning focused wizard or a cleric of a storm god
neat dust
but can they levitate and throw stuff?
pastel idol
I suppose the "echo" subclass for dnd fighter
in drake's game would just be a warrior/illusionist
umbral osprey
those would be stuff the psionic class does , so you'd get abilities from there
yes aizo
proud pebble
I AM HELPING
umbral osprey
yes you are
burnt sorrel
I AM HELPING
ur supposed to be working!
proud pebble
I'm multi-tasking
pastel idol
"transmuter" is just another name for alchemist
umbral osprey
the mere fact that you guys are excited to play this is helping me i've never gone this deep in a project in my life without feeling burnout
pastel idol
proud pebble
what are we up to now btw?
umbral osprey
4 left for the 25 goal
pastel idol
oh straight up "Pacifist" class, though it kind of aligns with cannon's "survivor" from before
umbral osprey
you know what i am adding a stalker , to deal with the ranger gimmic
its too far out from druid
neat dust
adapter? u adapt to idk elements or fighting styles? like a jack of all trdes based on encounters
umbral osprey
thats just getting points from everything
again val i am trying to avoid having dervatives cuz i want the players to make them instead
proud pebble
is there a specific tank class?
neat dust
maybe but u could be less efficient
umbral osprey
is there a specific tank class?
i want to leave the traditional trinity roles (tank , dps and support) to be design space within the actual classes , so every class can do all 3 but in different ways and with different levels of quality
so even a barbarian can "support" by basically shouting at you hard enough to make you get good
proud pebble
hmm, fair
pastel idol
i want to leave the traditional trinity roles (tank , dps and support) to be des...
basically my plan with "siren" in ashes of creation
made of "bard/tank"
umbral osprey
3 left
umbral osprey
ehh too bardy
neat dust
cursed idea was no good?
umbral osprey
hemomancy is a big enough design space to split off from wizardy maybe
proud pebble
I'd have thought so
neat dust
hemomancy?
proud pebble
mechanics to do with spending health to cast magic
umbral osprey
hemomancy?
blood magic
neat dust
proud pebble
pretty distinct from normal magic
umbral osprey
there is another spell class that is wide enough but i kinda dont want to give the players the power to use it , chronomancy
wut?
proud pebble
umbral osprey
there is another spell class that is wide enough but i kinda dont want to give t...
cuz time magic will defo get out of hand
neat dust
a class to transform into animals?
umbral osprey
https://tenor.com/view/malphite-mad-rock-solid-rock-mad-angry-malphite-league-of...
ehh just a golem tbh
proud pebble
could make it very back heavy
proud pebble
need a lot of investment to make it strong
umbral osprey
a class to transform into animals?
thats like... the whole identity of a druid val
umbral osprey
fuck it , chromancer is going in , tho i KNOW it will be a nightmare to balance
proud pebble
again, just make all the powerful stuff really expensive
umbral osprey
1 left
umbral osprey
again, just make all the powerful stuff really expensive
yes , but time stuff just finds ways to be broke in unexpected ways
pastel idol
I bet barbarian could multiclass druid, and instead of turning into animals
become like "were" types and take on animal traits
proud pebble
maybe have the abilities for early game be slows for enemies and buffs for allies
pastel idol
drake
proud pebble
take time away from enemies making them slow
give extra time to friends making them fast
umbral osprey
the low point traits would be stuff like , a small damage repeat, a mini forsight thing , etc
ekko's redo would be like midgame stuff
umbral osprey
the problem is idk if that will be fun to play aizo
neat dust
thats simular to my adapter idea but give it the draw back of being worse at it then the others
umbral osprey
having chars with high dependency on the opponent is usually exploitable and feels bad
proud pebble
but also being able to copy allies traits balances that out
umbral osprey
only if your party specced to enable you
its a fun idea , but more as a one off spell or something but not an entire class identity
neat dust
contractor where they can make "contracts" with willing participants like a party member or animal and gets to utilize their abilities for as long as their contract is in effect and can only have 1 contract at a time
umbral osprey
meh
proud pebble
would it be too cheesy to have a character that's basically just a Yu-gi-oh player?
summons monsters and spells from a deck of cards
pastel idol
would it be too cheesy to have a character that's basically just a Yu-gi-oh play...
Gambler
every spell rolls a dice, and the outcome decides what happens
umbral osprey
like the way he communes with higher powers is through tarot cards or something
umbral osprey
every spell rolls a dice, and the outcome decides what happens
just a pure wild magic class , i feel like thats waaaay too random to be playable
proud pebble
on the other hand, would be very fun
pastel idol
that's the fun part of it- but perhaps have like categories
like "positive effects" - "negative effects" or whatnot
so there's some control, but you don't know exactly what you get
umbral osprey
yeah but on the other side , you can roll badly several times in a row and die outside of your control
pastel idol
so like every dnd game
neat dust
charger a class that gains a buff from being agressive and can hit harder as they pick up speed charging at an enemy so being on the move is good for them
pastel idol
umbral osprey
charger a class that gains a buff from being agressive and can hit harder as the...
several classes can be speedsters in diffrent ways
pastel idol
charger a class that gains a buff from being agressive and can hit harder as the...
barbarian, multiclassing druid, taking on "horse" traits
umbral osprey
thats just a barbarian with stone armor
neat dust
originaly i was imagening them rolling into a ball and bashing into people
umbral osprey
val wants to play sonic
pastel idol
barbarian, multiclassing druid, taking on "horse" traits
barbarian, multiclassing druid, taking on "armadillo" traits
pastel idol
a sort of "special" class could also be fun, not sure what it would do though
"classless"
neat dust
cursed class where ur just given alot of disadvantages but also some stuff which saves u from death in some instances
neat dust
just incase those disadvantages get to brutal
umbral osprey
nah having something that purely debuffs the player aint a good idea , will feel so bad when you waste a level only to feel weaker
pastel idol
for a "cursed" class, could do the revenant class that saps life from enemies, but uses their own life to perform those feats
umbral osprey
thats blood magic
neat dust
it's a for fun class or challange class
umbral osprey
which we already have
pastel idol
but it might just be too close to the hemo thingy
yee
was also thinking spirit magic, but you already have shaman as well
neat dust
could have them unable to use magic and not be able to touch stuff cuz it will corode or wither
so they become a sorta monk
pastel idol
what does the machinist do?
umbral osprey
another funny magic item
proud pebble
I feel like we've hit the edge of our creativity XD
pastel idol
what does dnd artificer do?
umbral osprey
makes things
pastel idol
neat dust
whats that came called again monkeys paw?
pastel idol
was thinking a pilot class, or something
that summons or otherwise creates a suit of some sort
to fight inside
umbral osprey
you'd be making machines in this case , traps , guns , turrets etc
pastel idol
or would that be chevalier/machinist
proud pebble
Aizo wants to be a Gundum
pastel idol
Aizo wants to be a Gundum
neat dust
a class made with help from party where they pick an ability and party picks a disadvantage to it
umbral osprey
pretty much aizo