Draft Discussion No.26

[royal quartz]

Let's a go!!

[plucky sapphire]

me gonna win this one fr trust

[royal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-mario-video-game-throw-cap-gif-16702975152051637538

[plucky sapphire]

also tots for evry league or one specific league only?

[lethal plume]

So uhh

do i make my spurs award squared

[little widget]

so explain how this works, im new to all of this

[lethal plume]

Oh Dude the horror

[royal quartz]

Basically, you pick 1 player at a time based on a theme. There's a snake order to follow and eventually you'll get a full starting eleven. The judge will mark the teams once they are done and then the person with the lowest score wins and becomes the judge for the next draft

It's more complex than that, but those are the basics for now

[little widget]

oh ok

[plucky sapphire]

u pick up as u go 👍

[trim hemlock]

Does anybody want to judge?

[royal quartz]

Mostly likely no

[trim hemlock]

Do u wna judge?

[royal quartz]

I'll only judge if I have to

I'm only a last resort

[trim hemlock]

Fine i'll judge then, none of these themes rly excite me

[royal quartz]

Suggest something exciting in #1309006458561495040

I'm low on ideas ngl

[trim hemlock]

Hmm

[royal quartz]

I have some ideas, idk how good they are ngl

[lethal plume]

I can : )

[unreal swan]

Is underrated xi for this season

Or all time

[blissful vale]

Beat me to asking this lol

Feels like it would have to be all time

Bruno fernandes for under rated xi

Cuz people put him in a conversation with odegaard

[blissful vale]

Tots so far won by a vote damn lol

[astral kettle]

rah

[turbid pulsar]

From the bottom of my heart I can win tots

I'm goated at that

Pretty sure that's what I won last time

[trim hemlock]

Thank u for not picking underrated xi

Idk how tf i shld be judging that

Tots is much easier lol

[royal quartz]

@rotund wolf 12 hours

You have the first pick

@bleak osprey welcome to your first draft

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon

12hours

[calm horizon]

@lethal plume your turn

Took Bruno

[royal quartz]

Players Unavailable

Kylian Mbappe
Bruno Fernandes
Lamine Yamal
Harry Kane
Gabriel Magalhaes
Federico Valverde
Federico Dimarco
Thibaut Courtois
Dominik Szoboslai
Vitinha
Joan Garcia
Warren Zaire-Emery
Luis Diaz
Alessandro Bastoni
Michael Olise
Erling Haaland
David Raya
Raphinha
Nico Schlotterbeck
Declan Rice
Konrad Laimer
Ivan Toney
Pedri
Joshua Kimmich
Fermin Lopez
Joey Veerman
Lautaro Martinez
Nico O'Reilly
Antoine Semenyo
Alejandro Grimaldo
Marco Carnesecchi
Kenan Yildiz
Gianluigi Donnarumma
Nico Paz
William Saliba
Mason Greenwood
Manuel Locatelli
Kostas Fortounis
Hakan Çalhanoğlu
Bruno Guimaraes
Josip Stanisic
Hugo Ekitike
Elliot Anderson
Virgil Van Dijk
Reece James
Rayan Cherki
Jurien Timber
Scott McTominay
Ryan Gravenberch
Marc Guehi
William Pacho
Frenkie De Jong
Luka Vuskovic
Achraf Hakimi
Dean Huijsen
Goncalo Inacio
Mathew Ryan 🇦🇺
Joao Pedro
Kike Salas
Arda Guler
David Raum
James Garmer
Ousmane Dembele
Christian Burgess
Joao Neves
Denis Undav
Jonathan Tah
Jude Bellingham 🤮
Serge Gnabry
Igor Thiago
Khvicha Kvaratskhelia
Maximilian Mittelstadt
Alvaro Carreras
Malang Sarr
Jules Kounde
Domenico Berardi
Julian Ryerson
Mika Godts
Nadiem Amiri
Marcos Senesi
Martin Zubimendi
Matheus Nunes
Angelo Stiller
Aleix Garcia
William Pacho
Vedat Muriqi
Jakub Kiwior
Jean Butez
Eric Garcia
Arijanet Muric
Aurelien Tchuoameni
Luka Modric
Esequiel Barco
Anass El-Karaouni
Mike Maignan
Jan Paul Van Hecke
Mamadou Sangare
Julian Alvarez
Alexander Nubel
Joaquin Panichelli
Kim Min Jae

[bleak osprey]

tysm

[plucky sapphire]

10th ugh i gotta wait a long while 😭

[royal quartz]

At least you can thoroughly prepare your 2 picks

[plucky sapphire]

fairs

but most good first picks would be taken sadly

[calm horizon]

@wintry moss you aren't in the draft.
And who tf is that? 😆

[wintry moss]

A young Mexican talent who has scored 26 goals in 16 games

How to title

[lethal plume]

Okay @royal quartz

Your turn

Man

[royal quartz]

@bleak osprey 12 hours

[lethal plume]

I tought he would be forgotten

[royal quartz]

Bruh, I ain't forgetting a ballondor nominee

[lethal plume]

Yeah

I am NOT winning the spurs award again tho

[royal quartz]

Also the people participating, please say who you picked once you make it

I picked Harry Kane btw

@bleak osprey it's 1 player at a time

[bleak osprey]

got it

[royal quartz]

And once you make your pick, Ping the next person

[bleak osprey]

oh ok I didn't know abt that

@astral kettle

ur pick

[royal quartz]

All good, I'll explain more rules as we go on

[bleak osprey]

yeah I'll need that haha

[royal quartz]

Gabriel was going to be my next pick

[bleak osprey]

i only half understand it but I think I know what's going on

[royal quartz]

If you have any questions about things, just ask

[bleak osprey]

best cb in the world rn, I gotta take him
I was considering him and olise

[royal quartz]

I'm happy to answer

[royal quartz]

I am considering a few players rn

[bleak osprey]

deal

[royal quartz]

It was either Kane, Gabriel or a few others for my first pick

I couldn't pass on Harry Kane though

[bleak osprey]

100%

best striker itw rn

Gabriel has been amazing too

[royal quartz]

I'd argue best PLAYER in the world

[bleak osprey]

so many good players this ssn, it's hard to pick

[royal quartz]

The elite pulls will come later on

[bleak osprey]

u can definitely say that but as I see it we have to wait till the end of the season to see who are the ucl and wc winners

[royal quartz]

Also, the way the scoring works is golf scoring (the lower the better) highest score will have Spurs Award Winner in their name until the end of the draft (unless they win it again). The winner will judge the next draft

[royal quartz]

Well it is a so far draft so

I don't see the UCL and WC being of use for now

[bleak osprey]

golf scoring? the lower the better? what does this mean

ohhhhhh I think ikwym

like rankings use golf scoring don't they?

number 1 is best

[royal quartz]

Ranking 1st in a position is 1 point, 2 is 2 points, etc

[bleak osprey]

yeah makes sense now

[bleak osprey]

ik for a fact I'm not gonna be the spurs award winner 😂

[bleak osprey]

yeah for the draft we gotta look at the present

[royal quartz]

100%

As for this draft, there are some GOOD people here

[astral kettle]

@blissful vale 12hrs

[blissful vale]

No limits on how many we can have from a league etc?@royal quartz

@unreal swan 12 hour

Dimarco cuz he's the only standout lb imo lol

[royal quartz]

No

[turbid pulsar]

I'm. Not in it 😭 lowk fair TBh I haven't been active but like still 😂

[astral kettle]

my next pick 😭

[unreal swan]

Uh take me out please

@royal quartz

[coral rampart]

Can I pick

Now

[blissful vale]

U don't wanna play?@unreal swan

@coral rampart think u can pick seems he doesn't wanna partake

[unreal swan]

Yeah last draft was basically an early tots this is similar

[coral rampart]

@plucky sapphire Go

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

[dark stirrup]

@plucky sapphire You again

I took joan garcia and vitinha

No idea how 3 midfielders have been picked and not one has been vitinha but i dont mind it

Vitinha is definitely the best midfielder in the world

Behind josh cullen of course

[blissful vale]

Bruno Bruno Bruno

@dark stirrup he cdm BTW not cm

[plucky sapphire]

@coral rampart go

took Warren Zaïre-Emery

legit balling out for psg so much now

[dark stirrup]

He’s played cm this season

[dark stirrup]

Vitinha is better

Bruno is a cam

Two different positions

[blissful vale]

Transfrmarket all down as cdm

[blissful vale]

Hmm very early going midfield

[plucky sapphire]

true but best to lock in top midfielders already yk

besides midfield doing first fun

[lethal plume]

People who dont put nations should be disqualified

[astral kettle]

fuhh

everyone going midfield

[astral kettle]

bro no

[lethal plume]

Idk how i feel about warren zaire emery

@trim hemlock which club do you support

Man u?

[royal quartz]

Correct

[lethal plume]

Good to know

[astral kettle]

zaire emery has been great

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart 6 hour 20min ish

[plucky sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/now-here's-a-guy-who-doesn't-know-ball-a-guy-who-doesn't-know-ball-nfl-nbc-al-michaels-gif-14648136056785327093

[trim hemlock]

Ye utd

[trim hemlock]

Wze has been good this season bro wdym?

He played rb when hakimi was injured and then cm as well

[plucky sapphire]

most minutes in psg this season as cm iirc

[blissful vale]

That's a first strike @coral rampart

@astral kettle 12 hour

Took Diaz

[calm horizon]

@cerulean haven you're not in the draft.
And that's not how draft work.

[cerulean haven]

Ok

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart dimarcos taken

[astral kettle]

@bleak osprey 12hrs

[bleak osprey]

12 hrs

[astral kettle]

?

its ur pick

[astral kettle]

my next pick bruh

[bleak osprey]

i picked

Olise

[astral kettle]

then update ur message

and its not me next

its snake order

[bleak osprey]

wait I don't send a new message? i update the old one???

[bleak osprey]

ohhhhhh

mb

[astral kettle]

yes

[bleak osprey]

I understood it like that

ok I'll keep that in mind

[astral kettle]

its nipun next

[bleak osprey]

@royal quartz 12 hrs

[bleak osprey]

yeah just pinged him

[royal quartz]

Gimme Haaland

@lethal plume 12 hours

[astral kettle]

bro is loading up the big men

[plucky sapphire]

ahh my next pick goes

[lethal plume]

@calm horizon

Your turn

Took diaz

Wait

No hes taken

Mb

Okay i took raya

[calm horizon]

Raphinha

@rotund wolf 12 hours

[blissful vale]

@rotund wolf 6 hours

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon 12hours

[lethal plume]

Toney has 43 ga

But its toney

[calm horizon]

Your turn

Took Laimer

[lethal plume]

@royal quartz

[royal quartz]

I'll take Pedri

@bleak osprey 12 hours

[plucky sapphire]

Aww my final midfielder 😔

[blissful vale]

Hmm torn between two for next pick lol

[blissful vale]

@bleak osprey 7.5 hours

[bleak osprey]

@astral kettle 12 hrs

[astral kettle]

@blissful vale 12hrs

[lethal plume]

@blissful vale 10 hours

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart 12 hour

[coral rampart]

@plucky sapphire Go

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

Took rice

[dark stirrup]

@plucky sapphire Go

Took semenyo and o’reilly

[rotund wolf]

@plucky sapphire My friend, you need to change your draft. Because I chose Rice first.

[royal quartz]

He's taken

[plucky sapphire]

@coral rampart go

Took grimaldo and carnesecchi

[coral rampart]

@blissful vale go

[blissful vale]

@astral kettle 12 hour

[lethal plume]

Hello

[astral kettle]

@bleak osprey 12hrs

[bleak osprey]

@royal quartz 12 hrs

[royal quartz]

I took Nico Paz

@lethal plume 12 hours

[lethal plume]

Okay

[royal quartz]

1 hour

[lethal plume]

Okay

@calm horizon

Took saliba

[calm horizon]

@rotund wolf 2 pocks
Took Greenwood

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon

[calm horizon]

@lethal plume
Took Calha

[royal quartz]

@lethal plume a little over 7 hours

[lethal plume]

@royal quartz

Took rice

Im taking to many arsenal players

[blissful vale]

Already taken

[lethal plume]

Oh wait

Yeah

Okay took Bruno g @royal quartz

[royal quartz]

Was gonna be my next pick

I'll take Josip Stanisic

@bleak osprey 12 hours

[bleak osprey]

@astral kettle 12 hrs

[plucky sapphire]

Awwww

[royal quartz]

I wanted him as well

I feel ur pain

[astral kettle]

@blissful vale 12hrs

[lethal plume]

@blissful vale 11 hours and 51 minutes left

Was toney a bad pick

He has A LOT of goals

But its the saudi league

[astral kettle]

bro it had only been 9 minutes

why are u pinging again

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart 12 hour

[royal quartz]

Mason Greenwood is taken

[astral kettle]

fuh

[royal quartz]

AND NOW YOU TAKE MY NEXT PICK 😭😭

[astral kettle]

do u want to break the rules force elohim to change greenwood so i can pick greenwood and u can pick anderson

[royal quartz]

No.

[astral kettle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/squid-game-games-lee-jung-jae-PKAiVloO7gKmUcrqT3

[bleak osprey]

who takes carnesecchi over donnaruma otherwise

yeah I'm completely sure people r doing that

[plucky sapphire]

Prolly cause hes having an amazing season? And no i dont rlly use fotmob

And city all players forms arent as good tbh, even if they 2nd in pl

[coral rampart]

@plucky sapphire Gooo

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

[dark stirrup]

@plucky sapphire Go

Took timber and cherki

[plucky sapphire]

@coral rampart go

Took mctominay

My midfield is goated

[coral rampart]

Yes

@blissful vale go

[blissful vale]

@astral kettle 12 hour

[astral kettle]

@bleak osprey 12hrs

[bleak osprey]

is this list who's the best itw rn or who's the best itw this ssn?

cuz like Musiala's one of the best itw rn but this ssn hasn't done much at all

[astral kettle]

this season

[bleak osprey]

@royal quartz 12 hrs

[royal quartz]

I'll take Luka Vuskovic

@lethal plume 12 hours

[lethal plume]

I cant choose from the baller league huh

[blissful vale]

Was him or guehi for my first cb lol

Shame he gonna be in championship with spurs next season

[lethal plume]

I dont have a fullback yet

Uh

There arent any good left

Wait hakimi hasnt been picked

@calm horizon

Your turn

Took hakimi

[royal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/does-collin-know-ai-777-gif-14996955314870591966

[royal quartz]

😭

[royal quartz]

I knew if I let him go, he wouldn't come back to me

[plucky sapphire]

Rlly good pick

[royal quartz]

Surprising that he lasted this long

[lethal plume]

Well can i

I want the Prime fc striker

They have scored 15 goals in 2 games

[royal quartz]

No.

[lethal plume]

Fine

[calm horizon]

@rotund wolf 12 hours

Took Huijsen

[astral kettle]

why did i take pacho

what was i thinking 💀

[royal quartz]

Good question

[royal quartz]

Don't forget to check this list

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon

12hours

[calm horizon]

@lethal plume 12 hours

[trim hemlock]

How did yall let vuskovic stay til 6th pick wtf

Bastoni 2nd pick, vuskovic 6th pick 😭 thats a problem guys

If yall watch serie a, u know bastoni isnt that level this season

[dark stirrup]

Brev

There are NO cbs available

Might have to take romero 😭

[royal quartz]

Blud does NOT know

[royal quartz]

@astral kettle he's calling you out

[astral kettle]

idek why i took these picks

[dark stirrup]

Any cbs that i could pick would be dead last i reckon

[trim hemlock]

Huijsen and vvd got chosen alr, u might not be that cooked after all

[royal quartz]

@lethal plume 4.5 hours

[calm horizon]

@royal quartz your turn

@lethal plume strike

[royal quartz]

I'll take Kike Salas

@bleak osprey 12 hours

[bleak osprey]

@astral kettle 12 hrs

[royal quartz]

@astral kettle 5.5 hours

[astral kettle]

@royal quartz I changed pacho to calhanoglu

Took raum

@blissful vale 12hrs

[calm horizon]

Taken

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart 12 hour

[astral kettle]

fuhh

[astral kettle]

changed to cubarsi

[coral rampart]

@plucky sapphire Goo

Took Masour Ousmane Dembélé

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

took burgess

[dark stirrup]

@plucky sapphire Go

Took joao neves and undav

[astral kettle]

so many players oop 💀💀

[plucky sapphire]

@coral rampart go

took raphina

[royal quartz]

Now time to make 2 picks in the other draft

[plucky sapphire]

yee

[calm horizon]

He's taken

[plucky sapphire]

bruh didnt come up when i searched

well ill change later

[calm horizon]

Because it's Raphinha, not Raphina

[coral rampart]

@blissful vale go

[blissful vale]

@astral kettle 12 hour

[astral kettle]

@bleak osprey 12hrs

[trim hemlock]

Yo @coral rampart for 2nd pick, did u pick nuno tavares or nuno mendes pls specify

[plucky sapphire]

I searched both names thts why

[plucky sapphire]

also changed him to igor thiago forgot to say

[astral kettle]

I already have igor thiago

[plucky sapphire]

aw

ill change later 😭

[astral kettle]

lol

[bleak osprey]

@royal quartz 12 hrs

[lethal plume]

@royal quartz dont forget your pick honey

Most important thing oat

[plucky sapphire]

💀

[royal quartz]

Ur turn

I'll take Maximilian Mittelstadt

[lethal plume]

Oh boy i need some good picks uhh

@calm horizon

Took carreras and morgan rodgers

[calm horizon]

@rotund wolf 12 hours

Took Malang Sarr

[royal quartz]

Was hoping he'd fall to me

[calm horizon]

I have 0 plan in this draft.
I do minimum check and just pick whoever comes first in mind 😆

[royal quartz]

Same, I'm just winging it

[plucky sapphire]

changed to tah 😭

my midfield and defense complete now

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon

[calm horizon]

@lethal plume

Took Ryerson

[lethal plume]

Hm

@royal quartz

Took Mika Godts

[astral kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/birb-weird-egg-glasses-face-gif-2844273062192399129

[lethal plume]

@bleak osprey your turn then

[royal quartz]

I already picked before my strike look

[bleak osprey]

@astral kettle 12 hrs

[astral kettle]

@blissful vale 12hrs

[blissful vale]

@coral rampart 12 hour

[lethal plume]

Nipun your making me question my sanity

[royal quartz]

Huh?

[lethal plume]

Nothing

[lethal plume]

@coral rampart 1 hour❤️

I feel like a chud

[trim hemlock]

Woah that bastoni pick rly aint gonna be high rn 😭

[royal quartz]

Oh @astral kettle it's aging like milk

@plucky sapphire 12 hours

@coral rampart strike 1 or 2?

[calm horizon]

This is the 1st @royal quartz

[royal quartz]

Oh thanks

[royal quartz]

Hes having issues with the new phone number verification

[calm horizon]

My phone number is also used for different discord account that I forgot its password 😆

[royal quartz]

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

took stiller

[royal quartz]

For ur formation to work, you need at least 1 CAM

[plucky sapphire]

szobo to cam

i edited it but dindt edit for sum reason

[dark stirrup]

Szobo getting last place at cam

[astral kettle]

💀

nice one

[dark stirrup]

His main position would be cm

[astral kettle]

doesnt matter

[dark stirrup]

It does

[astral kettle]

no it doesnt what are you on about

[dark stirrup]

If they’re not in their main position they’re last place

[astral kettle]

bro

1/3 of games of the main position is fine

pretty sure szobo is eligible for rb rw cam and cm

[dark stirrup]

@plucky sapphire Go

Took aleix garcia and pacho

[lethal plume]

It does

[bleak osprey]

can I change the positions of my players then

not my players
just their positions

[calm horizon]

It doesn't.
If it's 1/3 of main position, they're good.
If it's less than that, he'll be last.

[astral kettle]

yeah

u can change players when its ur turn btw

[calm horizon]

You're free to do that

[astral kettle]

@plucky sapphire just over 4 hours btw

[royal quartz]

Instead of making his draft pick, he's playing Valorant 😭

[royal quartz]

@plucky sapphire 48 minutes

[plucky sapphire]

@coral rampart go

took muriqi

[plucky sapphire]

nah not me

some1 else was playing on my laptop thts it

[royal quartz]

Ah ok

[astral kettle]

anyone watching the artemis launch rn

[calm horizon]

@blissful vale your turn ig
Because @runic meadow already got 2nd strike

[blissful vale]

@astral kettle 12 hour

[royal quartz]

FIRST ELIMINATION

With @coral rampart out of the draft, these players are unavailable

GK: Thibaut Nicolas Marc Courtois 🇧🇪 (1st)
LB: Nuno Alexandre Mendes 🇵🇹 (2nd)
ST: Lautaro Javier Martínez 🇦🇷 (3rd)
LW: Vinicius José Paixão de Oliveira Junior (Vini jr) 🇧🇷 (4th)
CB: Virgil Van Dijk 🇳🇱 (5th)
CM: Ryan Jiro Gravenberch 🇳🇱 (6th)
RW: Masour Ousmane Dembélé 🇫🇷 (7th)
CM: Jude Victor William Bellingham 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 (8th)

<@&1206185225609150484>

[astral kettle]

wait hold on

bastoni has been great this season

@trim hemlock what are you on about

[royal quartz]

1 hour

[astral kettle]

ik ik

im not tripping tho

bastoni has been good

@royal quartz btw changed xhaka to zubimendi and cubarsi to baidoo

[royal quartz]

Still need a 10th pick btw

[astral kettle]

is Butez taken?

i dont think he is

is he

[royal quartz]

No

[astral kettle]

alr

[royal quartz]

That's ur 10th?

[astral kettle]

pretty good pick ig

yh

[royal quartz]

DAMMIT

[astral kettle]

@bleak osprey 12 hours

[royal quartz]

😭😭

[astral kettle]

lol i was kidna unsure whether he was taken lol

[royal quartz]

Jean Butez was my next pick

[astral kettle]

pretty good stats

oh lol

sorry :p

[royal quartz]

Cause that way I can delay between what formation to go with yk

[astral kettle]

yh fair

[royal quartz]

Cause I choose CDM/CM or a CB

I have 0 idea what to choose

[astral kettle]

imma change baidoo

[royal quartz]

To who?

[astral kettle]

took gila

instead

[royal quartz]

Ok

[astral kettle]

didnt realise baidoo played so little

now i need either a rw or st

hmm

[royal quartz]

I'm surprised that a certain player isn't taken

I'm thinking between like 4 GKs

[royal quartz]

You have a LW

You need a RW

Actually, he can play CAM LOL

Yeah ur right

[astral kettle]

yh lol

thats why i picked him early

flexibility

[royal quartz]

I need a GK 100%

[calm horizon]

Dibu still exists

[royal quartz]

I have like 4 other options before Dibu is even a consideration

[calm horizon]

Nah you aren't loyal 😆

[royal quartz]

Funny 😑

You haven't taken a Juventus player

[blissful vale]

[calm horizon]

Loca and Yildiz taken first 😆

[calm horizon]

Well, I took your best player as 1st option lol

[trim hemlock]

Nono im sayin he cost italy the world cup spot 😭

[trim hemlock]

And compared to last season, some of the stats arent up there

[astral kettle]

oh yeah of course

[astral kettle]

onana?

[royal quartz]

Ofc

[bleak osprey]

huh how does that happen how do u get out

also can we now use these players

and can we change all of our players as we want to during our turn

[royal quartz]

You get 2 strikes and you're out

[royal quartz]

No we cant

[calm horizon]

Unavailable means you can't use them

[royal quartz]

You can change whoever you want with someone else as long as they aren't taken

[bleak osprey]

iite

[royal quartz]

Also, when its turn and you say anything

Ur timer reduces to 1 hour

[bleak osprey]

wait what 💀

so what's my timer now?

[calm horizon]

40 minutes

[calm horizon]

Because talking means you're active.
And not picking in an hour just means you want to drag the draft and waste time 😆

[royal quartz]

Carreras is taken

[bleak osprey]

yeah I noticed so I changed him to Gerrard Martin

not Martin

[royal quartz]

Ok

[bleak osprey]

I mean Eric Garcia

mb

[royal quartz]

Ok

[bleak osprey]

it's ur pick now
12 hrs

[royal quartz]

@lethal plume 12 hours

[royal quartz]

@lethal plume 1 hour

[lethal plume]

@calm horizon

12 hours

Took tchouameni

[calm horizon]

@rotund wolf Your turn

Took Modric

[rotund wolf]

@calm horizon

12hours

[calm horizon]

@lethal plume 12 hours

Took Maignan

[lethal plume]

@royal quartz took marcos senesi

Oh wait white has him

[royal quartz]

@bleak osprey 12 hours

My teams done

[bleak osprey]

same

@astral kettle 12 hrs

my actual tots rn:
gk: Raya (I'm an Arsenal fan what do u expect)
lb: nuno mendes
cb: Gabriel
cb: saliba
rb: hakimi
cm: rice
cam: bruno
cm: pedri
rw: yamal
lw: mbappe
st: kane

[blissful vale]

This is the best xi u reckon?@bleak osprey

Me personally

Raya is over rated and only looks good cuz he has a good defence in front of him

[astral kettle]

@blissful vale 12hrs

[blissful vale]

@plucky sapphire Go

[plucky sapphire]

@dark stirrup go

took Joaquín Panichelli

24ga so far but sadly hes not sidelines with injury till end of year 😭

[trim hemlock]

How tf did he last this long

[royal quartz]

Look at my attack

[plucky sapphire]

cause most ppl overlook ligue 1

[royal quartz]

What do you expect

[royal quartz]

Look at my strikers

[trim hemlock]

Oh...

[plucky sapphire]

ik

i meant others

ivan toney got picked b4 him 😭

[royal quartz]

I have Haaland and Kane

Obviously Panichelli wouldn't get in

[royal quartz]

😭

[trim hemlock]

Broski pick in the other server as well

[plucky sapphire]

im surprised julian alvarez got piked cause lowk hes been kinda ass a lot fo times

[plucky sapphire]

didnt notice ping mb

[royal quartz]

I didn't pick Modric on purpose, I knew that Sangare would be overlooked

[plucky sapphire]

ye its a good pick imo

[royal quartz]

It was him or Thomassen

[lethal plume]

I feel like i could have chosen a better striker

Veerman might be worse as a 3th pick

[dark stirrup]

Thats the draft done

[dark stirrup]

Yeah you couldve

Striker with 36 g/a in germany was available until 8th pick

[lethal plume]

Yeah

I saw the 44 ga

But after I picked him I remembered its saudi

[plucky sapphire]

@trim hemlock

kim min jae is an interesting pick

[trim hemlock]

Aight as usual, 24h for anyone to make changes and i will start judging tmrw

[plucky sapphire]

seeing as tah and upamaguire were main cbs

[blissful vale]

Veerman bad? 💀

Gonna use the whole he plays in Dutch league

Which is more competitive than ligue 1 is for psg lol

[royal quartz]

Blud did NOT see my dm

[royal quartz]

That's a lie, look at Ligue 1 rn

[blissful vale]

Especially when they have to ask for there match vs rc lens to be rescheduled

[royal quartz]

The official list as of right now

[astral kettle]

was gonna take him but alvarez had a higher ga and a slightly better league

[royal quartz]

Spurs moment

[astral kettle]

i just woke up 😭

[royal quartz]

Make ur pick in the other draft

[astral kettle]

i will in a bit 😭

[plucky sapphire]

alvarez been very shakky this season tho

forms not stable enough imo

[astral kettle]

true ig

but hes cooking in the ucl

idk ig we'll see

[bleak osprey]

having a good defence in front of u makes u look worse cuz there will never be tap in situations and the only situations where u have to save a shot are either when there's a banger or a curler going top bins which is one of the most difficult things to save ofc, unlike tapins, OR when u or ur backline make a mistake which is so often that u can't expect it and u have to react to it not knowing when it might come if it will come

the nerves and composure Raya has to have with the best backline in front of him is crazy, and while his shotstopping isn't the best he's the best at claiming crosses (short keeper btw), at playing with the ball at his feet and at playing out from the back, and at sweeping the ball to prevent goals. if u switch Courtois with Raya, the team would not even be third place on the table

[blissful vale]

Tapins are difficult tho

[bleak osprey]

not as difficult to save as powershots and curlers going top bins

[blissful vale]

Cuz where hitting the ball basically on the line

No time react

Whilst technically most difficult to save top bins screamers/power shots

They usually have a longer time to be able to react

[bleak osprey]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-dRJ1nwatlQ?si=z71cqfLxkLhpEX_t it's not my fault the guy makes it look so easy tbh

[blissful vale]

Tapins are always a reflex save

[astral kettle]

david raya overrated af

https://tenor.com/view/szoboszlai-free-kick-dominik-szoboszlai-dom-szobo-gif-10811982154168592014

[astral kettle]

tap ins are guranteed goals unless the keeper had perfect placement or the striker just makes a howler out of it

raya over cortouis is an outrageous take

[bleak osprey]

unless the keeper has perfect placement
ahhhh that's what makes Raya and Courtois and Joan Garcia the best in the world

[bleak osprey]

I'm not saying Raya>Courtois

Courtois>Raya

[astral kettle]

putting raya in the same conversation is crazy

[bleak osprey]

but Arsenal wouldn't be performing as well as they are with Courtois over Raya in goal

[bleak osprey]

and why exactly is it crazy

[astral kettle]

next thing ur going to say is saka > yamal 💀💀

only reason raya has his cleansheets is bc of saliba and gabriel

[bleak osprey]

hahaha lmao that's like saying Ronaldo>Messi
I would never say both

[bleak osprey]

the clean sheets to me are irrelevant because of exactly that

I'm not talking clean sheets

I'm talking actual goalkeeping skills

if u had an ear to hear maybe you would've listened

[astral kettle]

ok then put rice in goal for distribution and passing

if you dont need saves

[bleak osprey]

unfortunately tho not even an ounce of a brain do u have

[astral kettle]

u cant say a keeper is world class if theyre terrible shot stoppers

[bleak osprey]

he is literally one of the best shotstoppers in the world
not in convos with Courtois and Joan Garcia but still with the elites right under them

[astral kettle]

no...

[bleak osprey]

"terrible" because I can't find 30 minute compilations of Raya Arsenal world class saves

that's like saying Neuer is a terrible keeper because his shot stopping is elite but not Buffon level

[astral kettle]

he has one of the least saves in the whole league

in terms of starting keepers

[bleak osprey]

blud

[astral kettle]

it most definitely is

[bleak osprey]

if u have the best defence in front of u

realistically

are u gonna get shot with trash shots or the best shots

[astral kettle]

then how is he one of the best if u dont have the stats for it

[bleak osprey]

u mean psxG and xG performance and the other more advanced metrics?

who said I don't have the stats for it

[bleak osprey]

look at this here

how in the world are keepers saving that

[astral kettle]

he has the lowest number of saves yet u say he's one of the best shot stopper

[astral kettle]

placement

absolute joke of a placement

[bleak osprey]

because he saves some of the least amount of shots

[bleak osprey]

absolute top hins

Rice in the 5-1 game placed it top bins and I don't see Courtois saving that

is he?

[bleak osprey]

and Rice isn't even that good of a free kick taker either, while that's a Szobo free kick

[astral kettle]

raya isnt even the best gk in the prem this season let alone other leagues bro

donraumma trumps by far

[bleak osprey]

https://youtu.be/UWKNusbofWc?si=grZm_1HZCom3eKCU

[bleak osprey]

"why is he conceding from so little shots"

yeah try shooting against him when he and his defence doesn't let u shoot

Arsenal ~72 (on target)
Manchester City ~100 (on target)
Manchester United ~109 (on target)
Brentford ~113 (on target)

Raya:
0.24 PSxG/SOT
0.11 xG/shot

Donnaruma
0.28 PSxG/SOT
0.15 xG/shot

this means that Raya and his defense are much better at preventing shots but when they do happen their quality is always significantly higher because the strikers shoot worldies when they shoot against Raya AND Donnaruma (the high PSxG-xG)

add 28 shots on target to Arsenal and suddenly the amount of saves Raya does is much much bigger

Raya vs Donnaruma:
Saveable Goals Conceded: 28.6% vs 17.4%
Shots Saved (No Rebound) 48.9% (Elite) vs 23.4% (Poor)
Positional Mistakes 3 vs 6

btw Donnaruma is the one on the left and Raya on the right

for Donnaruma 18 of his 23 goals conceded this season were in the bottom third of the goal

Raya catches 48.9% of his shots while Donnaruma catches only 23.4% which can very very frequently lead to rebounds

Raya currently ranks in the top 5 for cross-claim percentage while Donna is 6'5 and still in the bottom 5 for crosses claimed

Raya is more aerially dominant than Donnaruma 😭

[astral kettle]

thats exactly what im saying

his defence makes him look good

[bleak osprey]

if u only watch clean sheets it does

[astral kettle]

whole load of yap

jesus christ

[bleak osprey]

if u watch football it doesn't

[bleak osprey]

^

that whole lot of yap is stats

because allegedly I didn't have the stats to back it up

ur a hypocritical all bark no bite dog

u can't even bring anything to the table

u just say takes without watching football or naming reasons

[astral kettle]

im not even going to try

we both know you're wrong anyways

have better things to do other than this

[bleak osprey]

u never tried and u never succeeded

this season Raya>Donna

[astral kettle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/minion-tuff-8Do5PA5jPmTd3x8GI4

yea yeah yeah

wtv u say

[bleak osprey]

no discussion

no competition

[astral kettle]

lowkey u remind me of laertis

lmao

[blissful vale]

Goals prevented, strongest indicator for a shot stopper and doesn't factor in the defenders in front of them

[bleak osprey]

it doesn't factor in having the best defenders in front u preventing or blocking 90% of low quality or mid quality shots meaning that the volume of shots and thus PSxG Raya faces is significantly lower than Donnaruma despite him being able to save all the low quality shots
if he faced the low quality shots, he would save them. if he faced the low quality shots and saved them, he would have a much much better goals prevented indicator

[blissful vale]

It does factor xG tho

Xg faced

To factor in shot quality

[bleak osprey]

in fact City's defense is one of the strongest in the league but also not that strong
there's not one established centerback partnership meaning the defense is worse than it could be. I can guarantee u that if, for example, it was just Ruben Dias and and Gvardiol, Donnaruma's goals prevented would be lower

[bleak osprey]

goals prevented is PSxG-xG

how do u measure the expected goals of a shot that never happened

of a shot that was blocked

but still would've been saved

the point I'm making is the low quality shots are filtered out by the defense of Arsenal

so only the high quality shots are there for Raya to save

so his goals prevented looks horrible

and the opposite goes for Donnaruma

how many times has he claimed crosses or has run out to prevent a shot or has the defense blocked or prevented a shot leading to no shot being taken and thus no save and no low xG being registered

low quality chances inflate the goalkeeping stats of Donnaruma because his defense is much weaker than Arsenal's

it's also much more prone to mistakes leading to low quality shots because while their defenders are good, again, there's no established centerback partnership

[blissful vale]

a high number of goals.prevented shows the quality of a keepers shotstopping...regardless of the defence yeah?

[bleak osprey]

no

the stat is flawed

u know xG right?

it doesn't actually measure how much goals should be scored on average

game state xG and PSxG are more accurate

[plucky sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/torres-miss-open-goal-gif-14690648

[bleak osprey]

in the same way there are much more accurate ways to measure goalkeeping than goals prevented

[plucky sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/degea-save-gif-6229888

[plucky sapphire]

rice got glaze for being best free kick taker by taking 2 freekicks last year 💀

[blissful vale]

Won't catch Alison, donnaruma or raya making a triple save like de gea vs arsenal tho

[royal quartz]

Or Oblak multiple times

[lethal plume]

Because i picked him hes the greatest gk itw

[astral kettle]

stinker

[astral kettle]

[astral kettle]

also if ur talking about footwork, ederson trumps by far

[bleak osprey]

yeah I'm talking in the prem today

[astral kettle]

donarumma still trumps raya

he's so good bro

arsenal fans are kinda delulu

[royal quartz]

That's a given

[blissful vale]

Quad down double to.go

[astral kettle]

WAIT ARSENAL LOST TO SOUTHAMPTON???

LMAO NO WAY

thats made my day so much better after seeing slots masterclass agaonst city

[plucky sapphire]

big one

[plucky sapphire]

dont even speak about ts

#┣📰・news message muriqi stocks going up ⬆️ 🔥

[trim hemlock]

im bored imma judge

[royal quartz]

Well, then my DMs then

[astral kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-squid-game-2-cheers-happy-excited-gif-13406404385856133045

[bleak osprey]

career yes
this season nah

[astral kettle]

delulu

[calm horizon]

It's the truth

[blissful vale]

Raya over rated

[astral kettle]

bro fr

donarumma tops by far

close to 80% save percentage is mad

[trim hemlock]

Bro u picked donnarumma

[trim hemlock]

Bois we have 11 cdm 😭 and 12 strikers, do yall want 2 players to havr the same rankings?

[royal quartz]

No, it needs to be 15+

[bleak osprey]

where are u getting ur stats from

Donnaruma 71%~ save rate

74% in the prem 66% in the ucl

Raya 74% save rate

70% in the prem 88% in the ucl

[bleak osprey]

yeah cuz there wasn't anyone better

top 4 keeper imo itw this ssn is Donnaruma

[trim hemlock]

Nahh im gonna get flamed for cdms

[bleak osprey]

yeah haha

[plucky sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[bleak osprey]

.

[blissful vale]

Nah only cb should

[trim hemlock]

I havent gotten there yet

But ye i think im getting flamed for cb as well

Im left with cb and cm

[blissful vale]

Cdm can be difficult especially when it gets to eye test

[trim hemlock]

Oh and @royal quartz why tf did u pick salas as ur cb? That guy barely played half of the la liga season so far

[trim hemlock]

Exactly

[royal quartz]

Ah crap

Forgot to change him

Oh well

[trim hemlock]

Broooo jpvh inacio pacho gila how to rank these 4 wtffff

[bleak osprey]

I made my own ratings :)

[trim hemlock]

Dm me bro i need references

Do u know how bloody similar some of the stats are?

[bleak osprey]

why not send it here

[bleak osprey]

me personally I did them by feel

not by stats

so my opinion should be irrelevant tbh 😭

[trim hemlock]

Cuz im the judge and if u send them here, they will have some sort of an expectation uk?

[trim hemlock]

Tsk up to u ngl

[bleak osprey]

iite I'll send them in dms

but take them with a grain of salt

[trim hemlock]

Locatelli - highest contro due to most forward passes
Joao Neves - most direct attacking
WZE - best work rate and highest percentage passing in the final third
Rabiot - most tackles
What do u want me to do 😭

Alex garcia as well bruh

[blissful vale]

Swapped garner to rabiot

Usually not so many cdm and was overlooking rabiot too tbf

[trim hemlock]

Omgg...

Omg...err i will send the rankings to nipun when i wake up tmrw

Errr...

Oh nah i messed up for sure

But we will see ig

[plucky sapphire]

Its fine

Its jst rankings stuff happens xd

[bleak osprey]

we can swap our players even after everything's done????

no way

[blissful vale]

^

Changed it within the 24 hours..can share dm with nipun mentioning the change...only put in here late

[royal quartz]

I think Salas might lose me this draft

its whatever

I had a great time

[blissful vale]

Wondering whether tis true or sarcasm

[royal quartz]

nah I actually enjoyed myself

[blissful vale]

Was kinda meh considering our last draft tbh lol

Less exciting than usual but oh well

[royal quartz]

im just mad I didnt change Salas

[blissful vale]

My defence cooked me lol

Or maybe midfield idk

[royal quartz]

I think Salas will cost me

[blissful vale]

Doesn't feel strong draft especially from me

I've said this a number of times previously tho and won

But not this time

I reckon 4/5th

[royal quartz]

lets see

[royal quartz]

ill probably be there as well

I have no idea who will win

[blissful vale]

Usually do better the more weird/niche drafts

Have we done global xi? One per country all time

193 countries...let's say 12 player is 144

[royal quartz]

yes we have

well over a year ago

[blissful vale]

But not sure if that leaves too many unusebale countries lol

[blissful vale]

But we didn't do once a countries taken csnt be used again by anyone?

[royal quartz]

no we did

[blissful vale]

Oh

[royal quartz]

it was an early draft

[blissful vale]

Hmmm

Did we have a draw of votes for this xi and another?

[royal quartz]

@blissful vale

[blissful vale]

Damn odegaard 3rd pick lmaoo

Neur chosen before yashin

[royal quartz]

the good old days yk

when I was judging these all the time

and couldnt participate

[blissful vale]

And was part of my 10 streak or so runners up

If the winner had to judge yall woulds be calling me out rigging purposely lol 💀

[trim hemlock]

Ya its fine i judged rabiot instead of garner, im making final adjustments and im sending it in a while

[trim hemlock]

Salas, sangare, amiri and muric WHY THEM

U picked muric when maignan was available im wheezing

[blissful vale]

Maignan was taken by Elo?

[trim hemlock]

He was 11th

Muric was 10th

[blissful vale]

Oh

Hmm

[royal quartz]

Are you HIGH?!

Sangare has one of the highest ratings in all of ligue 1

[trim hemlock]

Bro muric was bad this season

[blissful vale]

Sangare good

Amiri decent

[trim hemlock]

Oh wait sangare i actl ranked him decent

[royal quartz]

With a 74% save percentage? Higher match rating than Maignan? More saves

[royal quartz]

Salas was a mistake to keep yes

Amiri has 12g/a this season

[trim hemlock]

Hmm lets see, maignan has the highest expected goals prevention

In the top 5 leagues

5th in clean sheets and 7 in total saves

Muric only had a higher save percentage cuz sassuolo allowed more shots

[royal quartz]

Doesn't that override a good chunk of Maignans case?

With a worse defence in front of him

Still saving more shots

[trim hemlock]

Oh my logic was that if u give maignan the same number of shots, he would have saved more as well

[royal quartz]

The percentage is higher despite facing more shots

The gap is much closer than you're making it seem

[trim hemlock]

And if u give maignan the same number of shots muric is facing, he would save more, since maignan has highest expected goals prevented rn

[royal quartz]

How could that be possible with a lower save percentage?

[trim hemlock]

It might increase

[royal quartz]

This is all hypothetical, like if Miku won

We cant base all this on ifs buts or maybes, it needs to be on absolutes

[plucky sapphire]

run it back

[calm horizon]

If it's run back, the post and ranking from back then should be deleted.
Otherwise, there's no point doing ir.

[royal quartz]

True

[plucky sapphire]

ye thts a smart move

delete now imo so ppl dont copy rq

otherwise aint fun

[calm horizon]

It won't be in next draft.
Maybe in several months 😆

[royal quartz]

<@&1206185225609150484> RESULTS ARE OUT

I'll release the results right away, no podium stuff.

Curt: 56 (4th)
Nipun: 60 (6th)
Dylan: 51 (2 best picks) (2nd)
White: 59 (5th)
Siso: 51 (3rd)
Elohim: 51 (3 best picks) (WINNER)
Shaq: 61 (2nd spurs award)
Alemao: 60 (alot of worst picks) (3rd spurs award)
Connor Bradley: 62 (Spurs award)

GK:

1. Joan Garcia - Dylan (No debates here, barca's backline aint good at all and he has the best stats)
2. Donnarumma - Siso (Came in and changed man city's defence)
3. Raya - Bigshaq (Not much explanation needed)
4. Maignan - Elohim (Highest expected goals prevented in top leagues, 5th highest safe percentage.
5. Butez - Connor Bradley (14 clean sheets, 22 goals conceded, just lacks european stats)
6. Carnessechi - White (Conceded 10 goals against bayern, and plays in serie a)
7. Muric - Nipun (Most saves yes, but no european football so ye)
8. Nubel - Curt (10 clean sheets, 38 goals conceded)
9. Matt Ryan - Alemao (Not good this season bro, sorry)

CB:
1 - Gabriel - Siso
1 - Saliba - Shaq
2 - Guehi - Curt
2 - Vuskovic - Nipun
3 - Bastoni - Connor Bradley
3 - Tah - White (So underrated, better than schlotterbeck 100%)
4 - Kiwior - Curt (Im suprised u didnt pick bednarek, hes better than kiwior this season)
4 - Schlotterbeck - Alemao
5 - Sarr - Elohim (Hes up here solely bcuz he is ranked #1 for cb in europe for interceptions)
5 - Senesi - Siso
6 - Pacho - Dylan
6 - JPVH - Shaq
7 - Inacio - Alemao
7 - Gila - Connor Bradley (the cb ranked between 6 and 7 are very very very close)
8 - Huijsen - Elohim
8 - Burgess - White (Did u rly think this was a great idea?)
9 - Kim - Dylan (Doesnt event start for bayern)
9 - Salas - Nipun (Didnt even play for half of the season 😭)

RB:

1. Di Marco - Curt (idc if he cant defend, bro's about to break serie a assist record as a wingback)
2. O reilly - Dylan (Carabao Cup tax hits high)
3. Grimaldo - White (ye good stats)
4. El Karouani - Alemao (16 assists, not as high due to eredivisie)
5. Laimer - Elohim (solid left back)
6. Mittlestadt - Nipun (another solid left back, lower than laimer due to no ucl showing)
7. Carreras - Shaq (Improving, but had a few bad months)
8. Raum - Connor Bradley (Eew leipzig)
9. Calafiori - Siso (Look bro, he plays in a super team, he hasnt standout, he been injured, he's been having silly mistakes, i cant put him any higher)

LB:

1. Valverde - Connor Bradley (the ultimate big game player)
2. James - White (Key for Chelsea)
3. Ryerson - Elohim (assist king at rb)
4. Timber - Dylan (Can be said to be higher than ryerson but his stats dont show + a better backline with him)
5. Eric Garcia - Siso (Barca's best defender)
6. Stanisic - Nipun (Another solid fullback this season)
7. Nunes - Curt (Not as good as stanisic)
8. Hakimi - Shaq (Like...hes been injured, been good when he play, but he has like less than 25 games so i cant rly put him higher)
9. Kounde - Alemao (No, not good at all this season)

CDM:

1. Vitinha - Dylan (I gotta give it to him ngl, he has the most progressive carries, he has more defensive work than kimmich and more chance creation than bruno g, most well balanced)
2. Bruno G - Shaq (Goals, assists, defensive work all there lower chance creation, so not any higher)
3. Kimmich - Siso (I rather someone who is good at both defensive and chance creation, rather than only attacking or only defending)
4. Modric - Elohim (Mate he is 40, and his vision, his passing is still bloody elite, he has more tackles and blocks than vitinha btw 😭)
5. De Jong - Siso (Still good)
6. Elliot Anderson - Connor Bradley (Close)
7. Stiller - White (I am getting MURDERED FOR THIS, but the people above have had better defensive stats as a cdm and have shown on a bigger stage)
8. Mamadou Sangare - Nipun (Elite talent, just like elliot anderson)
9. Zubimendi - Connor Bradley (Not a standout whatsover, carried by rice in that midfield)
10. Hakan - Elohim (Can score? Yes... can he match the ones above him based on defensive abilities? No)
11. Tchouameni - Shaq (abit inconsistent at times, but on his day, he will be alot higher)

CM:

1. Rice - Alemao
2. Pedri - Nipun
3. Mctominay - White
4. Locatelli - Alemao
5. Joao Neves - Dylan
6. WZE - White (idk atp)
7. Veerman - Curt (eredivisie's finest)
8. Aleix Garcia - Dylan (No choice here, hes rating was lower than veerman and he did ok ig)
9. Amiri - Nipun (Dawg i cant do much here, i really cant)
10. Rabiot - Curt (Solid, yes, dependable, yes, but i look up at the list and rabiot isnt standout)

CAM:

1. Bruno - Elohim (Was there any doubt?)
2. Szobo - White (Carried Liverpool)
3. Yildiz - Connor Bradley (Carried Juve)
4. Fermin - Connor Bradley (Carried ...oh wait, he didnt carry, he was already in a good team thats why he 4th)
5. Rogers - Shaq (This is tough not gonna lie, it is the prem, but i rather have fermin in my team than rogers right now, 4 5 and 6 are really interchangeable)
6. Paz - Nipun (Carried Como, but no europe and same league stats of someone like a rogers or a yildiz)
7. Gnabry - Curt (idk about him ngl, he has a good g/a but 1, it is the bundesliga and 2, he isnt a star)
8. Guler - Siso (Far less g/a than the rest and genuinely did not have a good season)
9. Fortuonis - Alemao (AL-KHALEEJ??!)

RW:

1. Yamal - Shaq (Above Olise due to tougher league)
2. Olise - Siso (Big gap from 2 to 3)
3. Greenwood - Elohim (Could change with greenwood, but the higher g/a outweighs league difficulty this time)
4. Cherki - Dylan (Very very close to Greenwood, but i still think he is adapting in some games)
5. Diomande - Curt (Big gap from greenwood)
6. Berardi - Alemao (errr good rw but no where near the rest)

LW:

1. Lucho - Curt (Clear first, most on form this season)
2. Raphinha - Elohim (Above Semenyo due to higher g/a in lesser games)
3. Semenyo - Dylan (Still a very good season)
4. Kvara - Siso (Big gap from 3, slight falloff from last season)
5. Godts - Shaq (Could be above kvara, but its the belgian league mate)
6. Barco - Alemao (Mate he is out of position, bloke is a cam)

ST:

1- Mbappe - Alemao (It is what it is)
2 - Haaland - Nipun (It is what it bloody is)
3 - Kane - Nipun (Large gap to the next few from now)
4 - Luis Suarez - Curt (I dont care if its the portugese league, 40 g/a btw this season)
5 - Thiago - Connor Bradley (Oh fun fact: he has more goals than pedro and ekitike this season despite not being in europe)
6 - Joao Pedro - Elohim (Overrated af, had a poor few months)
7 - Ekitike - Siso (You as well!!!!)
8 - Undav - Dylan (Highest g/a among these lot below, but it only brings him until this high)
9 - Muriqi - White (Not in europe, same stats as tougher league players, why would i have him over players like igor thiago)
10 - Panichelli - White (Top scorer of ligue 1 ik, but stats around the same as other better league strikers)
11 - Alvarez - Connor Bradley (Idk what makes u think alvarez had a good season, he didnt score an open play goal in la liga for a good few months)
12 - Toney - Shaq (All saudi farmers will be ranked last)

[trim hemlock]

Im gonna get cooked by people

[royal quartz]

Best picks
1: Mbappe - Alemao (the best there is)
2: Haaland - Nipun (the second best there is)
3: Rice - Alemao (the best cm)
4: Saliba - Bigshaq (the best defender)
5: Bruno G - Bigshaq (his defensive actions and his g/a is very respected)
6: Guehi - Curt (no explanation needed)
7: Neves - Dylan (not many good 7 picks there is)
8: Thiago - Connor Bradley (2nd best striker in the prem behind haaland)
9: Ryerson - Elohim (Finally the winner has a best pick)
10: Modric - Elohim (Defensively elite, passing elite only behind vitinga and he got left til 10th pick??!)
11: Maignan - Elohim (U cooked fr bro)

Worst:
1: Szobo - White (No choice sorry bro)
2: WZE - White (Once again im sorry bro)
3: Toney - Shaq (I rather Tony from LC Sign)
4: Carnesecchi - White (U r mad unlucky)
5: Fortuonis - Alemao (AL-KHALEED??!)
6: Huijsen - Elohim (No just no)
7: Salas - Nipun (Lucky escape by alemao)
8: Kounde - Alemao
9: Berardi - Alemao
10: Barco - Alemao
11: Kim - Dylan

<@&1206185225609150484> ALL RESULTS

Look at the results and ask @trim hemlock any questions with the rankings

[plucky sapphire]

carnessechi below butez

dam

[plucky sapphire]

wze over joao neves this season tho tbh
more mins and more key play

[plucky sapphire]

spikez dying tonight

3 unlucky

like tf 😭

[calm horizon]

Finally win again through questionable judging, but I won't question it 😆

Expected a 4th-5th finish tbh

[plucky sapphire]

corruption is bad when im not in it
but it is fine when im in it

https://tenor.com/view/corruption-is-not-bad-meme-meme-corruption-is-only-bad-if-im-not-involved-corruption-meme-dictator-meme-gif-14538211130605834739

[calm horizon]

Alemao should be last btw.
Locatelli plays 0 game as CM.

[bleak osprey]

it's not really hypothetical it's a fact of statistics and in fact Arsenal went through it the past 3 seasons

[bleak osprey]

these are leftbacks and the ones under them are rightbacks btw

also I'm surprised, I expected myself to be near the bottom or have a spurs trophy

nice nice I actually got a decent one

must've been beginner's luck

[trim hemlock]

Wait

Oh

😭

[trim hemlock]

@royal quartz can u adjust it abit 😭

[trim hemlock]

Carnesschi conceded 10 against bayern, he had a good few months, ok for the rest, and dun give me the "bad backline bs" they have scalvini

[trim hemlock]

Its close bro, alot, like we talking 1% 2% off levels

[royal quartz]

Just edit ur dm, I'll use that one

[trim hemlock]

Joao neves defensive metrics were better thats all i can say rly

[trim hemlock]

U didnt win bro cuz of this 😭 u didnt pick a cm, so ur points didnt go down

So dylan won and alemao got spurs award thats about it

[trim hemlock]

@Football Draft Ping the only changes made were
Dylan -2
Nipun -1
White -1
Curt -2
Alemao +6

[plucky sapphire]

look at atlanta in serie a
carnessechi is the only reason they r there

mans been clutch

[trim hemlock]

Oh fun fact: atalanta were like 11th back in december

[trim hemlock]

And look at where como is

[plucky sapphire]

ye

[plucky sapphire]

i love como

[trim hemlock]

Como also has the least goal conceded in serie a

[plucky sapphire]

fair

[trim hemlock]

Como to get ucl we will be there

[plucky sapphire]

defo

they playing career mode rn

[trim hemlock]

Fabregas and paz to come to united??

[plucky sapphire]

i hope wrexham get promoted purely for the record and also cause their team plays fun

[trim hemlock]

If carrick doesnt get the job

[plucky sapphire]

dont think paz will

[trim hemlock]

🙁

[plucky sapphire]

as long as fabregas is at como

[plucky sapphire]

carrick should imo

[trim hemlock]

Unlikely, im backing hull to get promoted

[plucky sapphire]

hes been rlly good

specially compared to previous managers

[trim hemlock]

Fr

[plucky sapphire]

millwall or wrexham for me

[trim hemlock]

Millwall direct promotion

Ok nvm they lost

[plucky sapphire]

ye

ipswich also on 72 iirc so they could also be the ones in playoff spots

[trim hemlock]

Played 2 games less, i think it will be ipswich in 2nd

[plucky sapphire]

maybe

could do an arsenal xd

[calm horizon]

It's alright.

[royal quartz]

Curt: 54 (4th)
Nipun: 59 (6th)
Dylan: 49 (1st) (Bro has to thank alemao)
White: 58 (5th)
Siso: 51 (3rd)
Elohim: 51 (3 best picks) (2nd)
Shaq: 61 (3rd spurs award)
Alemao: 66 (alot of worst picks) ( New spurs award)
Connor Bradley: 62 (2nd spurs award)

[trim hemlock]

I never said fortuonis was out of position, he fortuonis is just farming in saudi

[dark stirrup]

Undav hate will not be tolerated

[dark stirrup]

How am i first if i got the lowest points

[trim hemlock]

Thats the point, u got the lowest points to win, i.e. 1st place in rankings is 1 point

[trim hemlock]

Ye tbf i could probably have put him higher 36 g/a this season but its the bundesliga and uel but i wld say its close between him and the 2 above

[blissful vale]

Counted at least 3 players out of position

[dark stirrup]

Ohhh

Wow thats my first win lol

[astral kettle]

wtv

[bleak osprey]

joan garcia clears all ur fav keepers

[dark stirrup]

Yeah fr

[bleak osprey]

best shotstopper itw btw

[blissful vale]

Lucky u ain't last @bleak osprey 👀

De Jong Cm and garcia cb lol

That's a 10 point swing

[bleak osprey]

btw Barca hasn't lost a single game with Garcia starting at cb

also aren't their secondary positions cdm and rb anyways?

valverde counted as rb and got points and it's his secondary position (or rw, or rm)

[plucky sapphire]

5th now

oh well

[plucky sapphire]

muriqi better fr

[trim hemlock]

It must be at least 1/3 of main position right?
Fdj 8/23
Garcia at rb 8/24

So both qualify

[trim hemlock]

Stats says so, his backline says so, so hes no.1

[trim hemlock]

Nahh undav's g/a massively clears him

[bleak osprey]

he faces the absolute hardest shots and still has the highest save rate of all the keepers

[bleak osprey]

undav plays in the farmers league

muriqi is a laliga unc

don't diss him

real and barca superstars have to go through him and the other laliga uncs to get approval

[trim hemlock]

How was courtois ranked 1st last draft bruh

[bleak osprey]

no idea, Courtois is barely 4th

and this doesn't even contain Neuer who might be ahead of him at 40 😭

Joan Garcia top 1, Raya top 2, Gigi top 3, Courtois top 4/5

and kids these days say Courtois is still the best keeper itw

[trim hemlock]

Muriqi, budimir, igor thiago, same type of player, strong aerial goalscorers target men hold up play players

[bleak osprey]

correct

also don't forget igor thiago still has more goals than every premier league player this season, with the sole exception of erling haaland of course

[trim hemlock]

Ya thats why i had him just below the big 3 and suarez

[bleak osprey]

I still can't believe suarez got over Igor thiago 😭

gyokores last ssn was clearing that bum and this ssn is barely getting ekitike and joao pedro numbers

igor thiago would get 70 goals in the Portuguese league easy

[trim hemlock]

I cant judge things that didnt happen

[bleak osprey]

why not

[trim hemlock]

Its hypothetical

[bleak osprey]

and hypotheticals are acceptable as long as they're grounded

for example julius caesar has 4 documents written on him, his existence is hypothetical but grounded because there are 4 documents written on him

[blissful vale]

Isak was expected to improve leaving Newcastle for Liverpool and he's barely played a game

💀

[trim hemlock]

Luis suarez same number of goals this season as haaland btw

[blissful vale]

Bruno pumping better numbers/stats in the Premier league than the Portuguese league