Draft Discussion No.22

[shrewd adder]

And we're off!

[trail gyro]

yes

time to win again

[ocean wasp]

wheres best world cup performances

[shrewd adder]

Ah crap, I knew I forgot a theme

[light viper]

For the letter xi is it the first letter on surname?

Or first name?

[shrewd adder]

I think so, but ask @fierce pond it was his idea

[light viper]

W for Wayne or R for Rooney

@fierce pond

[trail gyro]

😭

[wise dew]

@shrewd adder @harsh solar thx for marking the draft 4 me

And when I return (and win ofc) I'll be sure to do it myself :👍

[shrewd adder]

No worries man

[shrewd adder]

If you come 2nd, the winner can choose to make you judge

If you don't want to, the winner will have to judge

[paper fog]

Ooo this is my first time

Is it all time letter xi then?

[carmine pollen]

🔥

[prisma kayak]

Hello guys

[trail gyro]

whichever wins the draft ye

[willow cave]

Isn't all time letter XI @fierce pond's idea

[fierce pond]

Last name

[fierce pond]

Yeah

@light viper it's by surname

@shrewd adder DMs

[prisma kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-kid-six-seven-67lolololol-gif-13011948879493822709

[light viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707

[fierce pond]

Vote for one player per league pls 🙏

[prisma kayak]

Yes Yes judging will be pretty easy

[ocean wasp]

pls im not picking someone from the singaporean league 😭

NO WAY 1 PLAYER PER LEAGUE IS ACTL WINNING

WTF

[shrewd adder]

It won't be that tough dw

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder how will 1 player per league be graded

Is it off of overall player ability

[shrewd adder]

Probably their performances over this season so far

[fierce pond]

Oh

That's kinda early

[shrewd adder]

Or this and last season

[fierce pond]

Most leagues are only at like game week 13

[fierce pond]

That probably makes the most sense

[ocean wasp]

Bro i literally dun know anyone outside the top 5 leagues, dutch league, saudi and mls

And maybe turkey and portugal

[shrewd adder]

That's 10

[ocean wasp]

oh ok then ye its not that tough 😭

[shrewd adder]

[trail gyro]

lool

[ruby gull]

I WANTED TO PLAY BUT I WAS BUSY

I FORGOT TO PRESS

DUCK ME

[shrewd adder]

I can still add you

Relax lol

[light viper]

Letter xi

[clever quarry]

Can i join

[shrewd adder]

Also yes

I'll hopefully start this tonight or tomorrow

[trail gyro]

s4 needs to add spurs winner btw

[light viper]

Is it overall career or this + last season?@shrewd adder

And all time so can use 40/50/60/70's etc?

[ocean wasp]

1940s we will be there

[light viper]

There's some greatpicks btw lol

5 times serie a winner

[trail gyro]

🤔

how does letter drafts work btw

[shrewd adder]

I'll assign people with letters they use via a wheel

And then people will need to make their teams using players with that letter

[shrewd adder]

The letters that didn't get chosen

[paper fog]

So the letter that we are given is the ONLY letter we can use?

[light viper]

Oh

Ew

[shrewd adder]

Yes

[paper fog]

Also are first names valid?

[light viper]

Uhh

[paper fog]

Eg paolo dybala

[shrewd adder]

Ur first name is the C

[light viper]

Couldn't we just straight up make our xi rn? Lol

[shrewd adder]

No, it's last name

[paper fog]

Spelt his name wrong but you get my point

😭

[paper fog]

Ah ok

[shrewd adder]

Well stranger wanted it the way it is rnand it's his idea so

[light viper]

So I can use any a surnames ?

[shrewd adder]

Any surnames starting with the C

[light viper]

U put a...

The letter A

[shrewd adder]

Wait I did?

[light viper]

A

[shrewd adder]

Whoops, I meant to make it C

[light viper]

Ew

[shrewd adder]

Cause A is here in the unchosen list

[light viper]

Actually nvm

C imma cook

Especially defence tbh

My fullbacks

[shrewd adder]

And CBs

I got the letter W 😭

[paper fog]

Yikes

P isnt too bad

[light viper]

Cafu Carlos cannavaro, Cruyff

[paper fog]

Pele

[light viper]

Omg

[paper fog]

Pogba

[paper fog]

😭

[light viper]

C is for cook

😭😂

I'll gladly take c over a

Courtois

[paper fog]

Puskas

Pires

Kalvin phillips!

😭

[harsh solar]

@digital silo lucked out so hard man

[light viper]

Jamie carragher

[harsh solar]

He gets CR7 😭

[light viper]

Wait

Charlton

Holy cook

Lmaoo

[harsh solar]

@fierce pond what do we do about double barrel last names

Like Nigel Reo-Coker

[shrewd adder]

U might win ngl

[light viper]

Like Nigel Reo-Coker imma take this legend too

😂😭💀

[shrewd adder]

Thing is, is he R or C?

[light viper]

Should be the last part

So vvd

Would be f

D*

[shrewd adder]

[light viper]

😭

[harsh solar]

As for @shrewd adder what will he do with W

What will everyone else do with their letters

@willow cave u have first pick btw

[fierce pond]

The more I think about it this idea isn't that smart

Lol

[fierce pond]

Uh

Maybe the first part

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder lowkey

Because there's no point in the round system

And this idea actually is kind of dumb when you think about it

[shrewd adder]

I could make it where 1 letter per person

[light viper]

I said courtois over casillas FFS 😭😂

B should win btw

Js

I just did an xi for b

And wtf 😭

[shrewd adder]

This theme is way dumber than the last one

[fierce pond]

Yeah

[shrewd adder]

When you get intricate with it

[fierce pond]

It seems good at first

And then when you look at the details

[shrewd adder]

I mean, I could make that everyone uses 1 letter

[fierce pond]

It's not too late to change it lol

[shrewd adder]

@light viper @fierce pond thoughts?

[fierce pond]

Give an example

[shrewd adder]

Should I do that, everyone has to use 1 letter?

[fierce pond]

Like the same one?

Maybe same letter per round

[shrewd adder]

Ooooo

[fierce pond]

And assign the letters per round at the start of the draft

So you don't gotta assign it each round and slow down the draft

[light viper]

This better imo

[shrewd adder]

Or 1 letter for the entire draft

[light viper]

So

If I take bale ...I can't use B again

[fierce pond]

Curt 1 letter per round or per draft

I like round

Like round 1:N
Round 2: M
Round 4: H

[shrewd adder]

I think round because otherwise, we'll be scraping barrels very quickly yk

[fierce pond]

Yeah

[light viper]

Hmm

Cuz having just a letter is kinda eh

[shrewd adder]

And I doubt the majority of people are willing tk do that ngl

[light viper]

Nipun is screwed with W

[fierce pond]

Yeah it would be hard with 1 letter a whole draft

[light viper]

Vs like me or spikez with c and b

B is a very nasty xi

C too

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder this guy is so off task

[shrewd adder]

[fierce pond]

😭

[light viper]

Very solid picks for these

[shrewd adder]

Nah we mean that everyone has the letter B for example

[fierce pond]

Yeah for each round

[light viper]

V is hard too

[fierce pond]

And then the next round everyone has the same letter

[light viper]

Oh

[fierce pond]

🤦‍♂️

[light viper]

So we all do b

Then c

?

[fierce pond]

Yes

[shrewd adder]

For like a round

[light viper]

Like that?

Hmm

[fierce pond]

And 11 different letters one per round

[shrewd adder]

Then maybe u

11 rounds 11 letters

[light viper]

Is there enough v or z?

And y

😂

[fierce pond]

Maybe don't do z y x

[light viper]

I can name a few

[shrewd adder]

But like 13?

[light viper]

But 13 nah 😭

[shrewd adder]

Yeah lets not

[fierce pond]

Maybe go alphabetical order

[light viper]

For y there's yashin
Z Zidane zico

[fierce pond]

First 11

[shrewd adder]

I like random better

[light viper]

Hmm

[fierce pond]

Yeah same

[light viper]

Is there many j? Lol

And maybe k?

Y'all wanna see the c and b xis btw?

💀

B is unbeatable I think lol

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder so 11 rounds 11 letters and randomized?

[shrewd adder]

Yes

I have changed the announcement to reflect that

I'll set up the rounds and letters people use now

I'll announce it in here for every round and it'll be pinned here as well

[light viper]

Hmm

Now that I think

There's gonna be alot of editing picks lmao

Once we realise our CB with X letter gets taken

So we gotta change a past letter to a CB or something 😭😂

[fierce pond]

Since we are changing the theme kinda

We should change up the draft order

Right Curt

[ocean wasp]

1950s??!

[ocean wasp]

WHY 1950s

[fierce pond]

To properly reflect the new draft

We should have a new draft order

[fierce pond]

Wait it's 1950s and beyond?

[shrewd adder]

Yeah

[fierce pond]

Bro 😭

[ocean wasp]

Ya i literally dk anyone 1970 and before

[fierce pond]

Same

[shrewd adder]

<@&1206185225609150484> FORMAT CHANGE!!

So the new format will be that in each round, there will be a different letter you must use when picking a player. So 11 rounds, 11 letters. So feel free to ask more questions about this if it isn't clear. Also, if you pick Messi, you can't pick Ronaldo, we need to keep it fair. So here's the letters for each round.

Round 1 - P
Round 2 - S
Round 3 - O
Round 4 - U
Round 5 - H
Round 6 - I
Round 7 - M
Round 8 - D
Round 9 - R
Round 10 - L
Round 11 - N

<@&1206185225609150484>

[fierce pond]

Penaldo and Pessi first 2 picks

[ocean wasp]

Waitt so u r telling me...we can only pick these letters

[fierce pond]

Each round you lick a player who's last name starts with that letter

Pick*

[light viper]

Licks player

[fierce pond]

😭

[ocean wasp]

COOKED LAH WTFF 11 PLAYERS NAME WITH U

[ocean wasp]

DUDE I CAN ONLY THINK OF 5 PLAYERS WITH THE LETTER U...AND ONE EM IS MANUEL UGARTE

[light viper]

Round 1

Oscar Piastri

[ocean wasp]

Imagine if he wins champs

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder maybe do this in the draft message also

[light viper]

1 Oscar piastri
2 Michael Schumacher
3 Esteban icon
4
5 Lewis Hamilton
6 Eddie irvine
7 Felipe massa
8 jack doohan
9 Daniel Riccardo
10 Niki Lauda
11 lando Norris

@shrewd adder gimme the W already

[shrewd adder]

Lol

[light viper]

Ngl

Ur screwed so bad on this draft in the middle

Cuz at least 5~ of each letters taken before ur turn

This the xi spikez coulda had with b

GK banks
Rb Giuseppe Bergomi
CB Beckenbauer
CB baresi
Lb Andreas brehme
CDM busquets
Cm Paul breitner
Cam baggio
Lw bale
Rw George best
St van basten

💀😂

C kinda meh for midfield to finish mine lol

GK casillas
RB cafu
CB cannavaro
CB costacurta
CB: Hector Chumpitaz
Lb Roberto Carlos
CDM casemiro
Cam bobby Charlton
Cam Cruyff
St John Charles

Hmm lemme try w

😭💀

[shrewd adder]

Oh boy

[light viper]

In German w is v

And English W is w

So I can use both

Be half English and german

[shrewd adder]

[light viper]

GK Ronwen Williams
Lb ray Wilson
CB billy wright
CB varane (in German) 💀
RB Kyle walker
CDM viera (german)
Cam Fritz Walter
St george weah
St Callum Wilson 💀😭😂

Give up 😭😂

[shrewd adder]

I'm glad I didn't need to go through with this yk

[light viper]

Someone had h?

[shrewd adder]

I think so

[carmine pollen]

Last name or common name?
Like Vinicius Jr is a J or V?
Rodrygo Goes is R or G?
@shrewd adder

Well, last name ig.
Because it will be ambiguous with commons.
So Ronaldo Nazario is an N.

[fierce pond]

Last name

[carmine pollen]

Alright

[trail gyro]

this is so confusing 😭

[trail gyro]

wait y dont i see letters....

[carmine pollen]

So the new format will be that in each round, there will be a different letter you must use when picking a player. So 11 rounds, 11 letters. So feel free to ask more questions about this if it isn't clear. Also, if you pick Messi, you can't pick Ronaldo, we need to keep it fair. So here's the letters for each round.

Round 1 - P
Round 2 - S
Round 3 - O
Round 4 - U
Round 5 - H
Round 6 - I
Round 7 - M
Round 8 - D
Round 9 - R
Round 10 - L
Round 11 - N

This

[trail gyro]

ahhh ok

[shrewd adder]

Cause I changed the format from what it was originally

[carmine pollen]

Should copy this in #┣📄・the-football-draft

[trail gyro]

ye fair enough

[trail gyro]

Yes

[carmine pollen]

It's @willow cave turn, right?

[trail gyro]

yes

[shrewd adder]

@willow cave strike 1

[shrewd adder]

Ur turn

[trail gyro]

@flat narwhal your turn

took platini

[shrewd adder]

2 obvious picks out the way

[trail gyro]

yup

another one still on the plate for p btw 👀

[shrewd adder]

Yeah true

[light viper]

The letter u is so bad lol

The odd number letters the top half of people have it best

The even numbered letters suck lol

Top half get first picks for ..m r etc

[trail gyro]

oh true lol

[carmine pollen]

Yeah you're right

[light viper]

I think would have been better to use only those letters in any order tbh lol

[light viper]

They also get more first picks on letters too lol

[carmine pollen]

Yeah it's unfair.
Would be better if we can pick any letter in the list imo.

[light viper]

Think I'll skip this draft

Nipun etc all get first picks on people like puskas,Pele,maldini,Messi,maradonna ,CR7, ronaldiniho, romario etc

[carmine pollen]

Let's just restart the draft and have people randomly pick any players from available letters @shrewd adder

[light viper]

This is how I thought draft would have worked ngl

Lol

[carmine pollen]

Me too.
I thought all 26 letters are available.
Or at least 15.

[light viper]

Or 11 and pick any order u wish

[flat narwhal]

i picked Cristiano Siuu

[trail gyro]

@ruby gull turn

[trail gyro]

Their second name should start with p not r

So ronaldo ain't eligible

[paper fog]

Right so why has someone picked ronaldo

💔

[willow cave]

Wait how'd he pick ronaldo

💀

Its either he doesn't understand or I dont...

[trail gyro]

He didn't understand or else is trolling

[willow cave]

Hey what about Yellow card 🥺

[shrewd adder]

I meant

[light viper]

The letter p,o,h,m,r,n are picked first by the people at the top of the draft list like nipun, yes etc

Which hands them a big advantage imo

The people further down like spikez Bernie etc get first picks on the other letters which aren't as strong imo

Then the people in the middle like elo etc

Miss out on the top 5 picks either way

Which also disadvantages them

With the exception of s....I, d etc don't have that great picks

[fierce pond]

This puertoricocountryballyt guy

[willow cave]

🥹

[shrewd adder]

So what do we do?

[light viper]

We could use the letter we have rn and allow them to be picked in whichever order

Allow the current picks to be changed...give some time to allow that

[shrewd adder]

Yeah ok

[ruby gull]

@paper fog 12 HOURS

[fierce pond]

Who is pietro purruzi

[carmine pollen]

Maybe he meant Angelo Peruzzi?

[shrewd adder]

Maybe

[carmine pollen]

Or his son.

[carmine pollen]

So, now the letters aren't tied to round?

[shrewd adder]

I'll make an announcement once I'm home

[ruby gull]

Sorry I confused lol

[shrewd adder]

<@&1206185225609150484> ANOTHER FORMAT CHANGE (sorry)

We will now make it so the 11 letters aren't related to any rounds, and they can be used at anytime so long as someone else hasn't taken that player. I really apologise for the inconvenience here. Everyone that picked so far has 12 hours to change their picks and make it from a player that has a last name within the list in #┣📄・the-football-draft

[trail gyro]

Took messi then

[shrewd adder]

I'll take Maldini

[trail gyro]

Damn

Id have kept ur pick tbf

[shrewd adder]

Defenders costed me last time

CBs in particular

Maldini will allow me to have the best CB and LB simultaneously

[ocean wasp]

Is this a challenge?

What if i make it a challenge and use the original order 🤨

[shrewd adder]

Sure, go right ahead

[ocean wasp]

aight bet

[trail gyro]

I would've but messi best possible rw for us

[ruby gull]

Change now

Took manuel neuer

[light viper]

@paper fog little under 2 hours

[light viper]

Strike 1

@fierce pond 12 hour

[trail gyro]

[paper fog]

Mb

I was sleeping

And then had to go to work

Only back now

Sorry

[willow cave]

BRO

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder

What's the deal with double last names

Is it the first letter

Or the last

Like van dijk is a v or a d

[willow cave]

that mostly happens with dutch players bro

ig u can pick either one

van or dijk

[fierce pond]

@carmine pollen Go

Took Ramos

Top 5 defender oat

And 2 out of the top 5 start with a b and there's no B's in this list

[willow cave]

Beckenbauer Baresi

[shrewd adder]

And there's no C either

[willow cave]

Ashley Cole

[shrewd adder]

Cafu and Cannavaro

[willow cave]

Oh

[shrewd adder]

Roberto Carlos as well

[willow cave]

@shrewd adder Puskas has to get high right? a bunch of goals, getting to the world cup final with hungary, plus +3 European cups

[fierce pond]

Could've taken Ronaldo though

[willow cave]

Was gonna change it but the moment I wanna change it someone picks him

[light viper]

Technically u should have been allowed to change to Ronaldo tbh

[willow cave]

Why

[light viper]

Above ^

Rules got changed mid draft...the people who already selected picks should have been given time

[willow cave]

But I cant change no more

[light viper]

And when he selected Ronaldo it was an illegal pick he made it before the draft changed

[willow cave]

I wish I could trust me 😭

[willow cave]

He did?

REF

@shrewd adder

LISTEN TO THIS REF

[light viper]

But now it would be unfair on others who may have selected Ronaldo since

[willow cave]

🥺

[light viper]

CR7 should be voided from draft altogether 🤷

[willow cave]

https://tenor.com/view/cristiano-ronaldo-cristiano-ronaldo-meme-cr7-cr7-meme-bcr7-gif-8438126835710650854

Always against him 🥺

[fierce pond]

I agree

The Puertorico person should have to change

[shrewd adder]

He needs to

[fierce pond]

It's unfair that he got Ronaldo illegaly and kept him after the rules for changed

[shrewd adder]

@flat narwhal change Ronaldo

[willow cave]

@shrewd adder Can I change to Ronaldo

🥺 🙏

[shrewd adder]

Ykw what, sure

🫱🏽‍🫲🏻

[willow cave]

🥹

[willow cave]

How'd you know I'm that white

[shrewd adder]

Ur Venezuelan

I know

[willow cave]

Which hand is supposed to be mines tho

Left or right

[shrewd adder]

Right I think

[willow cave]

😔

A lot of venezuelans are dark tho 😭

[carmine pollen]

@clever quarry 12h

Took Lahm

[ruby gull]

Guys help why liverpool draw

And sunderland

Liverpool keep drawing new team every season

[clever quarry]

@light viper ight

[light viper]

@digital silo 12 hour

[digital silo]

@ocean wasp 12hour Go Go go

[ocean wasp]

Bro u KHANT pick him, its by surnames only

Oliver is his first name

Anyways i pick platini

@whole iris go

[digital silo]

Oh, what a mess! These rules make no sense; you're forced to include this list of letters!

These letters don't represent positions, but rather the players' names.

So I'm going to change and replace my player's name.

These draft rules are very confusing.

[ocean wasp]

Bro Cruyff starts with C, the player's LAST NAME must start with one of the letters

C is not one of em

U can see the list of letters in the announcement

[digital silo]

Ok

[digital silo]

Hey man, yours is wrong too, Michel Platini, you put it under the letter M, but his last name is Platini, so it has to be under the letter P.

[carmine pollen]

Ronaldo Nazario is N, right?
@clever quarry

[carmine pollen]

And C is unavailable letter

[ocean wasp]

No i put it under P, if u look at my list, M is still there

[digital silo]

I fixed it now. Because I copied the wrong list of letters from my partner.

[digital silo]

But the letter isn't highlighted; your list is confusing. The correct way is to put the letter first, then the last name and the player's position.

There's another partner who misspelled Iniesta's name too.

[ocean wasp]

Ye screw this sht im js gna stick to the old formatting

[carmine pollen]

Yep that's good.
I used my format because it's easier for me

[fierce pond]

Is this an AI

[trail gyro]

No it's a translator

[fierce pond]

Ohh

Lowkey thought it was ai

Doesn't discord have a translator if you type in another language

[trail gyro]

Idk never used it tbf

[clever quarry]

Yeah mb

[ocean wasp]

@whole iris u hv less than an hour

[carmine pollen]

Around 30 mins left

@shrewd adder question
Vini Jr. Is counted as J or V?
What about Andy van der Meyde, is it v or M?
And many others like Jan Vennegor of Hesselink

[carmine pollen]

Your turn ig

[ocean wasp]

@whole iris bro rmb to ping me once u r done next time

Anyways i pick peter schmeichel

@digital silo go

[trail gyro]

M or m 😭

@light viper ur turn

[carmine pollen]

You're tripping

[light viper]

The only super Balon Dor winner

@clever quarry go

[carmine pollen]

Oh, he isn't a D?

[light viper]

Nah should be s

People like vvd are d

People with the Di type things in the middle it's the last name

[light viper]

In this case stefano

[carmine pollen]

Ah alright

So picking van der Meyde and Vennegor of Hesselink still possible

[light viper]

Yea 😂

Most Dutch names have like de , van, Der etc 💀

[trail gyro]

u edited it 😭

[light viper]

@clever quarry 6 hour 20min

[clever quarry]

@carmine pollen

[carmine pollen]

Took Nedved

@fierce pond

[fierce pond]

@paper fog go

Took nesta

[fierce pond]

@shrewd adder #┣📄・the-football-draft message
This guy still hasn't changed

And it's been 2 days

[shrewd adder]

I'll kick him then

[paper fog]

Took rodri

@ruby gull

[ruby gull]

@willow cave starts now

OH NAH

I CHANGE

SOMEONE TOOK IT

Change now

Took Jean-Pierre Papin

[willow cave]

Alr

One sec

@trail gyro Ur turn

@shrewd adder let me know if my pick doesn't work

[fierce pond]

That should work if di Stefano works for s

[trail gyro]

@shrewd adder go

[shrewd adder]

U again

[carmine pollen]

Neymar Jr. Counted as N, not J?

[shrewd adder]

I would say so yes

[fierce pond]

Neymar is his first name though

Neymar da Silva Santos Júnior

[shrewd adder]

@clever quarry R9 counts as R

[shrewd adder]

Is Vini in the same boat?

[fierce pond]

Vinícius José Paixão de Oliveira Júnior

Yeah

Junior is the last name ig

[shrewd adder]

Would Ronaldinho be G?

[fierce pond]

Ronaldo de Assis Moreira is his real name

[shrewd adder]

Then by that logic, should CR7 be A?

[fierce pond]

But known as Ronaldingo gaucho

[fierce pond]

No since thats not the common name that's known

Ronaldinho should be a G

Since he's commonly known as Ronaldinho gaucho

[carmine pollen]

Same goes with Kaka.
He's Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite but mostly known as Ricardo Kaka

[fierce pond]

Yeah so it's a K

[shrewd adder]

Cristiano Ronaldo dos Santos Aveiro

[fierce pond]

Nobody says dos Santos aveiero

It's just Cristiano Ronaldo that's what he's known by

[trail gyro]

@willow cave go

Took xavi

[shrewd adder]

So then Neymar and Vini are J, Ronaldinho is G and CR7 is R

[fierce pond]

Taken

[shrewd adder]

R9 is N I think

[trail gyro]

Negmar same the tbh

[shrewd adder]

Bernie has him

[trail gyro]

Sad

[fierce pond]

Yeah Neymar is known as Neymar Junior

So he should be J

[carmine pollen]

Pele is a P or Nascimento? 😆

[trail gyro]

Ronaldo Nazario

[trail gyro]

Junior shouldn't count tbh s
😔

[fierce pond]

I mean yeah

Since that's like after their father

[carmine pollen]

Ask them to change name lol

[trail gyro]

Like junior isn't even a name 🥀

I don't wanna change my boy ney

[fierce pond]

It's a "generational suffix"

But it can serve as a surname

[trail gyro]

Ye not part fr

[carmine pollen]

But it's legal name that they use on their shirt even

I suggest it's counted aa surname to make this draft consistent

[trail gyro]

Changed xavi to okocha

[carmine pollen]

Damn I was aiming for him next

[trail gyro]

😆

I wanna get the harder letter out of the way first tbh

https://tenor.com/view/jay-jay-okocha-jay-jay-okocha-nigeria-nigerian-gif-21623610

[fierce pond]

Yeah I agree

[carmine pollen]

So, Pele Nascimento? 😆

[fierce pond]

I guess so

Pele is his first name right

[carmine pollen]

Yeah but almost no one knows his Nascimento part

[digital silo]

No, Edson Arantes do Nascimento, Pelé

[carmine pollen]

Yeah no one cares about his real name.
He's mostly known as Pele.
And some, Pele Nascimento.

[digital silo]

No just

[ocean wasp]

@shrewd adder theres no way di stefano and vds works right? Di stefano shld he D and vds shld he V, thats the initial letter of their last name

[trail gyro]

Ye if neymar is j then they what spikes say 🙄

[light viper]

Isnt xavi just xavi then? Lol

X

Pele isn't p

Actually

I'll gladly take Di Stefano starting with a d

[shrewd adder]

Pause

[light viper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-michael-scott-thats-what-she-said-gif-20446601

[shrewd adder]

I finished work and saw that as my first notification 😭

[light viper]

So Virgil van dijk is V?

And most Dutch players are v or d too then

[carmine pollen]

Last name is Stefano, not di Stefano.

[ocean wasp]

No neymar is ok...cuz its only Neymar and Junior im talking about double barreled names or the van van dutch guys

[ocean wasp]

Ya van dijk is clearly V bro

[ocean wasp]

oh err idk about him tbf

[ocean wasp]

No its Xavi Hernandez his last name is hernandez

[carmine pollen]

Clearly D for most people

Last name is Dijk

Just like di Maria is M

[ocean wasp]

Its van dijk so its V

[carmine pollen]

It's D, yeah

[ocean wasp]

No its D cuz Di Maria i dont understand

Ya im getting ragebaited

[carmine pollen]

It's obviously M

Maria

Di is mid, not last name

[ocean wasp]

Then whats fabian? Angel FABIAN Di Maria

[carmine pollen]

Both mid

Last name is maria

[ocean wasp]

So his middle name is fabian di 😭

[carmine pollen]

Yes, there are many countries with 4-5 complete mames

First is first last is last.
The rest are mids

[ocean wasp]

Then why is di maria's father's name miguel DI MARIA

[carmine pollen]

Because his parents named him that, obviously?

[ocean wasp]

Omg im falling for the ragebait so hard rn...bro actl made me search di maria's middle name, father's name and actually questioned my knowledge on van dijk and di maria's names

Im done

[light viper]

Edson Arantes do Nascimento
his nickname Pelé

[ocean wasp]

No pele is brazilian uk? Like he is commonly known as pele

[light viper]

But nipun said no nicknames

😭

[ocean wasp]

Ayy good point bro

Ok uk what stick him in N, Nascimento

[light viper]

But nah that's just a troll point if we're being "technical" 😂

[carmine pollen]

Yeah let's nipun decide after getting headaches
@shrewd adder

Personally, I suggest player's common names.
So, almost all Dutch are v and d.
Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rodri and Rivaldo are R.
Neymar is N, Vini as V.
Xavi and Xabi Alonso as X.
Because that's their common names.
The names they're mostly known of.
And if there's controversy, just make a poll if it's valid or not.

[trail gyro]

Neymar n me happy

[light viper]

Hmm well I'll just go with Stefano as d then lol

My N pick too early 😭💀

Captained first world cup winners

[willow cave]

Picked Hazard

@ruby gull ur turn

[ruby gull]

K

@paper fog ur turn
Picked Bixente Lizarazu

[digital silo]

I disagree, there are other players who fit the requested draft profile, so let's put our heads together.

If you include that "but," it's like giving crutches to someone who isn't disabled. I think there are several players who fit the requested letters. That's the difficulty of this draft. It's just the last name, that's it. Xabi Alonso is easy, Xavi Hernandez is easy too.

[paper fog]

Kk

Picked de bruyne

@fierce pond

Ur turn

[paper fog]

My picks have been so mainstream 😭

[trail gyro]

@fierce pond 12 hrs

he pinged wrong guy

[graceful plaza]

We finally back gng

[shrewd adder]

You fr this time?

[fierce pond]

@carmine pollen Go

Took gerd muller

735 goals in 712 is crazy

And 68 in 62 for West Germany

[carmine pollen]

@clever quarry your turn

I took Ozil

[prisma kayak]

What are these picks?

[fierce pond]

??

This guy is always hating bro

He gets a grudge with someone and then holds it forever

[prisma kayak]

You're just the problem
I'm not hating
I'm just tryna say that the picks in this draft are crazy

Like why would I hate on someone's picks if I'm the judge?

[fierce pond]

?

What

[prisma kayak]

Nothing

[ruby gull]

Man united fan would be that way

[clever quarry]

@light viper

[light viper]

Puskas

@digital silo 12 hour

[carmine pollen]

2 picks btw

[shrewd adder]

No

[carmine pollen]

Nvm I'm blind lol

[light viper]

😂😂

Surprised Puskas lasted till a third pick

Stefano works at cam/SS too I think?@shrewd adder

He played some there

[shrewd adder]

Probably

[trail gyro]

i thought he was picked in first but ig it was changed when we were allowed to pick any later

[digital silo]

@ocean wasp go go

[light viper]

Yes had changed to Ronaldo I think

Hmm

Not sure if a particular player is l or c lol

Nvm found his shirt

Hmm

[ocean wasp]

Owen

@whole iris go

[whole iris]

✅

[ocean wasp]

OMG U??!

Umtiti i guess

@digital silo go

Good luck finding a good player with name beginning with U

[digital silo]

@light viper fast Go go

[trail gyro]

ahh fairs

[trail gyro]

I already have some in mind :)

[wise dew]

I thought everyone would get their own letter

I feel like that would make more sense 🤷‍♂️

[fierce pond]

That's what we did at first

But eliminates the whole draft aspect

And makes no sense at all

If everyone has their own letter no point in having a draft might as well write down your XIs and get to grading which is no fun

[trail gyro]

villa beat arse team 😂

[prisma kayak]

@whole iris put the positions on your picks

Unless you want me to do it for you

[whole iris]

well its not hard to guess Maradona's position unless you're some kind of room temperature IQ subhuman

but yes

Diego CAM
Xavi Didi CM
Djalma RB

[light viper]

@clever quarry

Iniesta and matthus midfield

[prisma kayak]

Just not that hard just adding it

But ok I'll just choose their main position

[trail gyro]

hell nah bruv

f leeds

[shrewd adder]

Its for formatting

[light viper]

@clever quarry 5 hour 50

[clever quarry]

@carmine pollen

[carmine pollen]

@fierce pond your turn

Took Ujfalusi

[clever quarry]

I was forgot that Lizarazu was taken i was retarted man 💔

[carmine pollen]

Just take another LB started with L then

[ocean wasp]

@fierce pond 6h

[wise dew]

Fairs

[fierce pond]

@paper fog go

Took Andrea Pirlo

He coaches at Dubai united now

Crazy fall off from Juventus

[paper fog]

@ruby gull go

I took luka modric

[ruby gull]

@willow cave go

Took Gheorghe Hagi

[willow cave]

Yes

@trail gyro Ur turn

I took Mikel John Obi

[carmine pollen]

He's M
John Obi Mikel

[shrewd adder]

@trail gyro 3.5 hours

[trail gyro]

@shrewd adder go took henry

[shrewd adder]

You now

Took Neville and Romario

[trail gyro]

@willow cave go

took rossi

[willow cave]

@ruby gull

[ruby gull]

Waiting for u lol

[trail gyro]

@paper fog your turn

[ruby gull]

@paper fog GOOO

Sir Stanley Matthews

I took it

[ruby gull]

Not Your job lol

[trail gyro]

u didnt ping so i assumed u forgot 🤷

its nobody job its a ping ffs 😂

[hard bluff]

hi

I'm back from the ban

[trail gyro]

sad fr

jk

[hard bluff]

dunno why I was banned though

crazy how laertis tried to evade ban with an alt bro didnt even try to hide it🥀

crazy

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbm9ocDNiYWpsbGwxdjZsOGp1MGN0ZTgwd2xoNWgweTEzcWUwZTNsdiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/R6jBlFi9wnFLq6iOLG/giphy.gif

[hard bluff]

@shrewd adder can I take over someone if they leave

[shrewd adder]

Sure

[hard bluff]

ty

[paper fog]

Mb guys

Been busy

Hope i still have time

[shrewd adder]

You have 1 hour

[paper fog]

@fierce pond ur turn

Took Michael Laudrup

[fierce pond]

@carmine pollen Go

Took Nílton Santos

[shrewd adder]

Hes taken

[fierce pond]

Lemme change

[fierce pond]

Changed to ivanovic

[shrewd adder]

Ok

[fierce pond]

Also there's no bixente lizarauis @shrewd adder

Two*

Macan has one and s4vi has the other

[shrewd adder]

@clever quarry change Lizarazu

[shrewd adder]

I swear people have asked him to change it

[willow cave]

@shrewd adder I'd like to get out of the draft for now sorry but I'll come back maybe in a few weeks

[shrewd adder]

Ok

@hard bluff wanna join?

[fierce pond]

Oh wow somebody dropped a Cristiano Ronaldo

Guess I'll take him

[hard bluff]

yeah

[hard bluff]

nuh uh

hes mine

[shrewd adder]

You'll replace @willow cave

[shrewd adder]

Welcome back

[hard bluff]

just sent the message

[hard bluff]

ty lol

oh

lenglet?

@shrewd adder this is all time right?

[shrewd adder]

Since the 50s yes

[hard bluff]

oh ok

lenglet and john obi are weird choices

[shrewd adder]

I'm not bothered to make a list for the players unavailable

I have too much going on

[hard bluff]

fair enough

[shrewd adder]

Well, some of the letters are scarce for choices tbf

[light viper]

U is the worst

I don't think there's any "great" players tbh

[shrewd adder]

I only know 1 player

Like it's cooked

[shrewd adder]

You can change them

[paper fog]

Upamecano 😭

[light viper]

People like umititi and upamecano are the decent picks lol

[paper fog]

Might just pick a random city player for u icl

[shrewd adder]

Like aside from them

[light viper]

And mostly cuz of trophies rather than individual awards

[paper fog]

Can i stick denis undav rb

😭

[light viper]

Surnames starting with u are very uncommon

Z and y is better

Cuz Zidane and yashin 😂

[paper fog]

M is probably the most common imo

[light viper]

Zico

[light viper]

M, b , a are good

C too

[hard bluff]

can we use first names

?

[paper fog]

No

[hard bluff]

or just last names

[light viper]

Nah

Last

[hard bluff]

thats just annoying as hell

Umbappe counts right 🤡

[carmine pollen]

@clever quarry your turn

Took Marcelo

[ocean wasp]

oh its u

[shrewd adder]

He's back in the server

[ocean wasp]

Ohh hes replacing yes?

[shrewd adder]

Yeah, he's not in a good place mentally shall we say

[carmine pollen]

John Obi Mikel valid as an O?

[shrewd adder]

No

Hes M

[carmine pollen]

Yeah as expected.
He has to change it then

[shrewd adder]

He can make it count to M

[clever quarry]

@light viper

[light viper]

@digital silo 12 hour

[ruby gull]

Can i use just wondering Sir Stanley Matthews

Is he before 1950?

[shrewd adder]

Well you can use him but, anything before 1950 means nothing

[light viper]

Wasn't he a rw?

[digital silo]

@ocean wasp go go

[ocean wasp]

Denis irwin

@whole iris go

[carmine pollen]

Dang it.
Rijkaard is my next pick 😆

[ruby gull]

Oh sorry

I put it wrong

[light viper]

Matthew got took for my rw option so had to take my next best r pick lol

[shrewd adder]

@whole iris 3 hours

[ocean wasp]

@whole iris strike 1

@hard bluff go

[hard bluff]

@whole iris 12 hrs 2picks

[light viper]

Van dijk is v@hard bluff

[shrewd adder]

Not this again

Bro this category is so confusing with the Brazilians and Dutch 😭

[light viper]

Idk if Stefano is d idk why van van dijk isn't v 🤷

I ain't changing Stefano from a d now.

[shrewd adder]

I guess so

[light viper]

Cuz van dijk shirt when he plays says van dijk right?

Not dijk

Therefore v? 🤷😂

[shrewd adder]

It says Virgil

[shrewd adder]

I guess so

[carmine pollen]

Out of your 6 picks.
3 are illegal btw.
Van der Sar and Van Dijk are both V.
And John Obi Mikel is an M, not O.

[trail gyro]

:0

rip connor

[shrewd adder]

In his first draft back as well

[trail gyro]

ye

tough luck honestly

[shrewd adder]

Fr

[hard bluff]

i didny make them picks 😭

ill fix it soon

[digital silo]

Is his choice correct? Are they surnames?

[carmine pollen]

Those 3?
No

[digital silo]

Obi-Mikel's statement is definitely wrong.

It takes too long to choose... I don't usually wait.

[carmine pollen]

It's not Obi-Mikel.
It's just Mikel, written in bold.

[digital silo]

But he used the wrong letter, man. That's what I said.

Bernie takes way too long to make the choice, he takes way too long.

Now the other two players from Connor are right.

[whole iris]

!!!!

[hard bluff]

like I said those werent my picks

[trail gyro]

47mins

[carmine pollen]

The previous guy was told to change them but he didn't.

@ocean wasp your turn in 30 minutes

[trail gyro]

@ocean wasp turn

bernie 2 strikes

[trail gyro]

wanted xavi ngl

[light viper]

TBF...2 of those weren't him lol

[shrewd adder]

<@&1206185225609150484> SOMEONES OUT

With Bernie out of the draft, the following players are unavailable

Diego Maradona (1) M
Xavi Hernandez (2) H
Djalma Santos (3) S
Didi (4) D

[shrewd adder]

Yeah

[light viper]

Took Matthaus instead of maradonna xD

Not a bad swap for a pick tbh

@hard bluff vidic for d?

[hard bluff]

im fixing atm

i realised too lol

idk why i put him for D

done

ammended

@shrewd adder are my picks valid

[shrewd adder]

Nilton Santos is taken

[hard bluff]

who took it

[shrewd adder]

Me

[hard bluff]

nooo

[hard bluff]

pique not taken right?

[shrewd adder]

Lemme check

[hard bluff]

i feel like i overlooked it 😭

[shrewd adder]

Aside by you no

[hard bluff]

thank god

[shrewd adder]

[light viper]

Got there in the end 😂

[prisma kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/desperate-man-video-games-gif-11438439937201317389

[ocean wasp]

Makelele

@digital silo go

[digital silo]

@light viper

[light viper]

@clever quarry go

[carmine pollen]

Damn you bro 😆

[light viper]

😭😂

[shrewd adder]

Ik you wouldn't let Elohim have his Juve boy

[light viper]

U wanted scirea?

At least u get Ur r pick now lmao@carmine pollen

[carmine pollen]

Yeah I plan to get him this round

[carmine pollen]

Still savi turns

[carmine pollen]

@clever quarry less than 4 hours remaining

[clever quarry]

@carmine pollen

[carmine pollen]

Changed Ozil to Ince and took Ronaldinho

@fierce pond 12 hours

[carmine pollen]

@shrewd adder tell me if these picks are invalid

[light viper]

Why would they be?

[shrewd adder]

Should be fine

[fierce pond]

@paper fog go

Took clearance seedorf

@shrewd adder isn't sir Stanley Mathews, M

[shrewd adder]

It is

[prisma kayak]

@hard bluff

[trail gyro]

?

[trail gyro]

lol

tf tht roblox time lool

[prisma kayak]

Like I just...

How can a person be so j*obless?

Does bro even know what grass is?

[fierce pond]

Macan has it as S

[shrewd adder]

@ruby gull Stanley Matthews is a M

[hard bluff]

its on my background 😭

I have a life

[prisma kayak]

So that means you've been using your laptop/phone for 23 hours?

[light viper]

The hell is zag and pd? Lol

Unless it's a different language for CB etc

[shrewd adder]

Portuguese

[light viper]

Ah

[hard bluff]

I didnt shut down 😭

[ruby gull]

What

Isn't he right winger

[shrewd adder]

That's not what I mean

His last name starts with a M

Not a S

[trail gyro]

lol

[trail gyro]

@paper fog strike 2

[shrewd adder]

[trail gyro]

@ruby gull turn

[shrewd adder]

[trail gyro]

?

[shrewd adder]

Strime

[trail gyro]

Ye red card mb

[trail gyro]

U misspelled it

Its strike

[shrewd adder]

I have logs for when u said it?

[trail gyro]

Nuh

Photoshop

[shrewd adder]

Sure buddy

<@&1206185225609150484> ANOTHER OUT

Dylfrfr has also succumb to a red card and is out of the draft, these players are unavailable

P - ST: Pele (1st)
S -
O -
U -
H -
I -
M - CM: Luka Modric (4th)
D - CAM: Kevin De Bruyne (3rd)
R - CM: Rodri (2nd)
L - LW: Michael Laudrup (5th)
N -

[trail gyro]

Hehehe

[shrewd adder]

U saw nothing

[trail gyro]

🤔

I wanted tht pele smh

[light viper]

Ngl I wanted laudrup

Had to tweak my idea when him and lewandowski went

[trail gyro]

Same

[light viper]

Is the voting based on position or letter?@shrewd adder

[shrewd adder]

That's a good question, probably position

[light viper]

So like voting for

R9 , Nesta , Neville

Or

[shrewd adder]

Although, if we make it letter, it might be more fair

[light viper]

Nesta maldini scirea etc

[shrewd adder]

Cause U will go the bottom of most positions

I'm not sure tbh

[light viper]

I mean everyone's got a bad pick then lol

So seems fair to me tbh lol

[shrewd adder]

So position?

[light viper]

Same with o

Only a few good solid picks there too

Id say stick to normal position voting

Letter voting will likely favour strikers/midfield easier to rank those high if people pick based on g/a etc

Like the Balon Dor voting 😁😂

[shrewd adder]

Ok

[trail gyro]

Ok

[carmine pollen]

Ranking by position, best and worst vote by letter instead of round, maybe?

[ruby gull]

@trail gyro 12 hours

Took Marc Overmars

[shrewd adder]

Hmm, @light viper what'd ya reckon?

[light viper]

Yes

[trail gyro]

Taking nedved ill edit later busy irl @shrewd adder turn

2nd pick after nkpun takes will be squarez since i wlnt be free for a while

[shrewd adder]

Hes taken