#Draft Discussion No.19
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positional value like that isnt judged
We tried that with gerard martin and Raphinha almost ghosted
people like Antonee Robinson were elite defensively, had double digit assists and allowed Iwobi to actually look like a footballer
It should be cause only certain players cover the whole flank while being injury prone
Balde was elite defensively too
but so many fullbacks can do that
π
I don't see them doing it on such a level
So you don't watch Barca
Shows how you're lying
I am refraining from using His name in vain
"Yes I watch Barca "
but I do, and my points still stand
ask anyone here
ask @round narwhal
or @storm crater
Then you proceed to say balde isn't good defensively isn't the reason Raphinha had THE season
or anyone else
I watched almost every game of Balde last season and genuinely he didn't seem bad in any of them and was also a the only reason Raphinha got his g/a
@candid wharf
Mate was Robinson the ONLY reason his teammate got 58 g/a or smth in club level
Fulham would've been near the relegation zone if not relegated\
Leno was ok at best
Bassey made errors like crazy
Andersen wasnt great either
Idgaf I'm not saying anything about Fulham
Barca wouldn't have had the laliga without balde
I'm not saying they wouldn't have, but Balde wasn't the reason
top 5 maybe but he wasnt as good as compared to his invincible season ig
Barca aren't great defensively
He was
They had a tactic balde was great in it
Kounde was the only reason it failed many times
He was so inconsistent in the start of the season
And the end
no he wasnt
And I get it he played 100 games in a row but still
Bro just stop
You didn't watch Barca clearly
And youre delusional
and clinically blind
no ill stop u right there
wdym
Ight bro wtv you say Balde was still the only reason Raphinha got his balloon d'Or season
if you say so
Without Balde maybe he would've had 25 g/a
who this lmao
lahm too goated
Fr
my mate who wanted to see the arguement
i think araujo was worse...
oh lol
He wasn't a starter
yea i wanted to see how full of crap everyone here is
And it makes sense
no it was because flick used his tactics right
but hes worse
Yes that too but that's how football works
he still isnt great defensively
id put balde as a bit ballanced ig he drops back but also attacks he covers the basics but isnt as exceptional as other fullbacks
hes like an alright player
Does Nuno Mendes do good in covering the whole left flank no cause he goes to ST but he has other players covering his position balde doesn't have anyone to cover him
funny how barca fans love raphinha now when they wanted him sold last summer π
He also makes space by driving into the midfield some times
I didn't want him sold
ur comparing eggs to bananas now
very different tactics with different strengths and weaknesses
u do realise different managers also make their players play in different ways u do realise tht right?
I didnt say ur name did i?
I said it in general
Ik but Flick's tactics had noone covering Balde and he did his job better than anyone else itw
because balde wasn't the guy to be concerned about
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with Fulham, it was Robinson
because he was more focused on his cb pairing maintaining the high line
He was literally top 4 most importantly players in the team
he wasnt even in top 6 most important players wdym
I'm saying this as a Barca fan literally if we didn't have him we'd make it to the quarters of the UCL and not win LaLiga
I can see why youre so biased and delusional
Pedri 1
Raphinha 2
Yamal 3
Balde 4
Look if you didn't watch Barca consistently during the season I understand you but it still doesn't change the fact he's the best LB itw
atp, we will just agree to disagree
Did you watch any other Barca game other than a few UCL ones?
And maybe an el clasico
yes
How many do you think you watched over the season
at least 20
Did half of them have Balde?
yes
Then you're blind or just focus on goals
Most will vote no I guess
lewa
raphinha
yamal
pedri
inigo
olmo
szczesny
Have a look at that
See
And I can show you unlimited vids
Ok showπ
.you blind?
most will say the truth
I can show u unlimited videos of clips of gyokeres flicking his hair but it doesnt mean gyokeres has the best hair
Even scored in an elclasico as a LB
ur point?
Y'all or atleast nipun is saying shi about g/a in lb
even defensively, ppl like Gvardiol and Robinson are better
this is proof btw
Says the video is unavailable
he was mainly LB last season
barcacincomascinco
3rd pinned vid
Tiktok
Ik but I'm saying that he was a CB a great one so it makes sense to be better than the most attacking lb itw
I just watch lives
and its ball knowledge is questionable at best
ye ur jst a rage baiter atp π€£
ye
Anyways its just dribbling skills that I saw
many ppl see clips and think ye this guys good
but many players have rlly good clips
doesnt make them best
Yeah you saw him doing shi other LB can't do and he does those every game
Especially Live Football snd F1
Tactics exist
see thats what i said
I mean some can attack
diff coaches uses their players in diff ways
Same tactics were for gerard martin
But it depends on the tactics
I don't see him doing those
Because its not his play style
He was the reason we got knocked out of the UCL
Pretty simple
theyre different players
the whole barca defence was woeful that game
Ik but still tactics exist right?
Yes
We were getting exposed the whole time from the left flank
hes an academy kid ofc he wont be as good he doesnt hv as much exp π€£
thats why you guys sucked
He's not tho
No
ye thats what i said
Also I dont think hes experienced enough to play in that type of match
He isn't an academy kid
exactly
then what is he a grandpa or smth??
He's 23
And wait
He was in the first team for a year
Before he started that game
Guess who played more
See
Obviously the best player in his position is gonna start
Look at the avg match rating cl
He got boosted cause of his 2 assists performance
7.1
It should've been 6.3 avr
7.1
There's more
Gerard Martin
see a mid player
Ye
A bad player would have been sold to United quickly
With Sergi Dominguez too
sure man whatever helps un sleep cause this arguments pointless
Omg I'm so happy he left
Y'ALL are dragging this btw
Nuno easily the best no debate
like tht one arthur swap deal barca did
Not even gonna argue
Whats this arguement about
Never
Js be glad i put him 6th π
Welp if he ever judges...I'm picking balde first pick 
Or whole Barca squad.
But he has to win to judge.
nah marc casado fr
best dm itw for him
or lobotka
top 3 innit
Lol
This reminds me of something before
"Roberto Ayala Moment"
honestly speaking
spurs moment should rlly be villa moment seeing spurs won in europe
and villa havent won in a long while
Fr
Got beaten by olympiacos 6-2
Tbf man united would be beaten 8-0
Dembele kane
Draft wise he does work at st tho ._.
true
Yeah mbappe 3rd
@brave hill i wanted either mbappe or nuno mendes π
@wary stirrup I'm pretty sure yk but you've got 35 mins
@blazing heart 12hrs
literally just picked
smh
And my comment was before yours
@blazing heart you just edit the first text don't write a new one every pick
Kk
Has jose been tagged?
@rose mortar go idk how much time you've got cause I'm pretty sure you weren't tagged
If mittelstadt is 2nd then there are definitely better options
1 hour i guess
Fvk
There are MANY picks
Like?
Any
Pratman isn't a bad pick
Frick you
Bayindir?
Stop trolling
Go for Rashy
Lovely pick
Forget about those Sofascore ratings
Lorenzo feels low ngl lol
Cuz it was Sofascore ratings
Nah...nipun did these ranks I think?
Fotmob?
When sofa score was used...I had picked gosens lol
Yeah fair
Yeah 31 la Liga goals is terrible
Only scored 43 goals the whole season what a bum
@tender dagger you got competition for spurs award
@tender dagger you can still take donnarumma btw
He's still available until vortex picks and his turn is locked
kinda unsure about donnaruma
best gk imo this season
but ranked so low in the last draft
Were was he ranked
Alisson got 8th btw lol
Hujsen got like top 5 cb
Donnarumma wasn't that good in the league
But he does deserve 1st
I can't think of any keeper as good
I don't think spikes even considered whether some play in Europe or whether they are in easier leagues.He just cared about the rating
it just doesnt make sense isco gets 1st just because he has the most g/a per 90
Isco got 1st?
yes
by that logic of having the most g/a per 90 means ngumoha is one of the greatest wingers ever to live
His only justification was g/a per 90 and he was the best player on the team π
How does being the best player on betis get you to 1
Erm actually they are conference league finalists which is an extremely prestigious award βοΈπ€
So best player in Betis shouldn't get you 1st
And isco won best player in the uecl meaning he's one of the best in Europe π€
Is this a joke?
Spikes logic
Oh
RB DUMFRIES 1996 1ST PICK
RW NWANERI 2007 2ND PICK
S4vi's run for spurs award got much harder
Fullbacks are getting taken
I need to get fullbacks next pick
Yes,there are a lot more but they were born in years with much better players
I hope spikes wins this draft
So that I can just pick the best players from Indian league and win the next draft
It'll be a win win
Savis got a nice start finally
That wasnt on my bingo card
@blazing heart already getting flamed
Relax, he's a fellow Indian
You actually can't deny it tho and it's crazy
Hes cooking so far surprisingly
I just hope that it'll not stay that way lowkey
Next pick is gonna be some Alexis or Martial
Hopefully
Yeah, I used both
He's gonna pick Garnacho next
Hes an Arsenal fan
Ohh
That's why he took Nwaneri
It all makes sense now
@cobalt sorrel 9 hours
I think so
@wispy tendon don't add time to vortexs time
Changed it
home
1hour now
1 hour to pick
And you can change any pick you want
1st pick i changed
Now you have 1 hour to pick someone
You can only change picks when it is your turn
Im thinking
fk i want nuno mendes
Hes taken
I can give you some suggestions
Also edit ur message to add your next pick
Idk man
Hes available
No he isn't
@cobalt sorrel

He's saying that he wants nuno mendes
Ronaldo still available lol
And hes taken by Stranger
Taking him is a risk
Was his original pic would be a top 20 striker
Lol

Brazilian
He's available

Top 1 RW icl
he's available too
Top 1
Who got dumfries..
I added an extra 1 mb
BusyParrot
Or hΓΈjlund
Mbappe or
Top 20 striker as well
Vini jr
Doue prob
Moro from ajax
No
Id say moro
Pick Maguire
Clutch goat
He played for everton
Did wonders at Valladolid last season Moro
@cobalt sorrel these players are unavailable atm
And is top 1 cb
@arctic fjord is an Everton fan too
I already changed the pick
for 1st pick
lol
You didn't do it when it was ur turn
Pick Maguire
actually
Clutch goat
Yes?
Maguire better
Not many good CBs left
No gif perms?
Can I edit?
You can change picks when it's your turn
And since it's your turn you can change your pick
I'm telling y'all Moro is underrated af
I agree
It's a tiktok not a gif
But Maguire better
DID VORTEX JUST DELETE??!
Sometimes an image shows
This one ain't even a joke he has potential
Not a gif
Oh my days this vortex guy
Vortex bro what is dis guy doing
Not in this server but it shows the cover of the video
Wtv
Bro is cooked
This guy has to be 10
@wispy tendon can we js kick vortex out?
Idk i changed pick
Donna 1st pick
?!! 2nd pick
And he deleted his 1st text too
streets will never forget ?!! prime
@round narwhal get ready
So it's out of order
Absolute baller
And it's not fair to push everyone in the back closer to the middle by keeping him
fr what a goat
Even I don't want Ronaldo cuz he isn't my goat.
Get rid of this waste of space @wispy tendon
π
actually im newcastle fan lol.
I'll never forget waking up to ?!! dribbling past the whole chelsea team
Must be that beach ball that scored against Liverpool π
@trim vale wanna replace Vortexpage?
Bruh replacements
That's !??, ?!! never missed a shot
away the toons βοΈ
away isak β
οΈ
Petition to ban @cobalt sorrel from drafts
Guys relax
ight
Ok
just banned me idc
Its ur turn btw gl
How bro was moving in his prime
If he agrees then yes
Sucks he blew his knee out
Is this your first?
Mental π
It is
I thought his Achilles twisted
I'm not really at a decent football draft. But I'm really good at fantasy football
Replacing him would be more reasonable
I don't think you should ban him
Yeah lol
That's why I'm asking @trim vale
That was a joke
How many points you got
In fantasy
You call that good?
All MD?
You said you were really good
He means NFL pretty sure
just week 1
Guess I'll take his GK then π
My turn?
Yeah@normal parcel
Yes
You mean NFL or Premier league fantasy
Not fair
fantasy football nfl lol
Oh 85 isn't good bruh π
I should've been beside him
Absolute heist by Curt
Hes a Broncos fan so
Got a n1 player by luck
Just let @low geode heβs Barca fan.
Nipun
steelers.
Oh
Can you tag me in the previous results?
And a Steelers fan
Makes sense he has no ball knowledge
Let @low geode my replaced me.
Nah
well u dont know riho
π€¦ββοΈ
Not how it works
Well, I ainβt a Broncos fan since when?
U literally could have taken him.
btw im a Denver Nuggets fan.
He picked before me
lol
Oh that
So could everyone else before me
Forgot about the nuggets
@quasi brook can you show us the previous CB results?
They always make me hungry
Bandwagon
Was made clear donnarumma was still available
No man just pick
I aint bandwagon..
Pick onana
Steelers, UGA and the Nuggets all over the place
University of Georgia?
Yeah
Just scroll bro im lazy π
For football or basketball?
Football id assume
Warriors better curry my goat
Can i join the Draft?
No more is the designated replacement
Where did you rank Inigo Martinez
Can't wait to see Spurs next pick
You should change him
Nah
Say .
Clipped btw
I didn't even check
You're such a good boy Jose
Try harder
You said what I told you to say
I have proof
Just go sleep bro
Why should I
It's late
Ig
Dang
Who doesn't
I plan to pick him at some point ngl
I did bro ;-;
π
Tottenham fans
@prisma tulip this true?
Arsenal?
Hi
Hello
Alr
Don't even replace him

Noooooooo
Just pick whoever you want, 2 picks
As long as they arent taken already
He's got TWO free picks
Well yeah
Alr
Omg
Do it ASAP pls
@graceful grove 4 hours
I slept woke up and he's still not pickedπ
Done
Wirtz is taken
I picked chill guy and the wirtz dude from leverkust
Yh change him
Huijsen is fine though
Nipun you think I got a Top 1 LW and top 2 CB?
Ooh what gk should i pick
Pratman
The tall dude or the Spanish dude
Maybe Ter Stegen
Inaki Pena
LW yes
CB no
Top 10 fs, top 5 maybe
Nah wtf you on about
5-8 for me
@normal parcel 12 hourd
Wrong guy
I'll put the year's they were born later I got shool rn
I can't decide
Or
@prisma tulip go
Its @prisma tulip
I got school rn
Just do it
Like I'm in it
Whos the judge?
Gimme a sec
Shi I better change
@arctic fjord
@prisma tulip moment
Definitely picking Pickford
WHY'S HE GONE FOR 2 CB'S
I'm in shool π
My school starts in 2 days
Couldn't think of attackers
Ok fine, do it after
Btw @wispy tendon thanks that you showed the answers
BTW I've gotten vvd every draft I've been in
This is like an exam
No way Ferran Torres is good
These were my marking lol
Can i play with no strikers
Nipun the ones you showed me were your rankings?
Yeah
For the TOTS draft
I guess if you go for a false 9
Ok delete the message so noone sees
Its already gone
I took the gk for the 2nd time
Good boy
Whos a good boy

Exactly
Say Ferland Mendy is better than Balde
Has white ever judged before
Si
Yeah 1 time
Tag me
Was a while ago
For 24/25?
Irish ppl likes Grealish
Especially him
He is
White
Rice too
Grealish is cooking for everton rn
Ik hes South Asian
Oh dang
Sadly
@graceful grove made an illegal pick
Nah im happy for Grealish
He finally got the freedom to play
He got twice the assist he got for city in 2 seasons
How?
Hes just a baller from Birmingham isnt it
It was Spikez
Jimmyparet had Messi originally
@graceful grove change VVD, hes taken
So @graceful grove did make an illegal pick
Yep, good work
Imma continue with #1400239183112437843 rn
π«‘
Danggggg its been a long time since i played sm
He should take declan rice
I started a utd career mode
Spurs and villa moment
I think Spurs will go for a Djed Spence or smth like that
i think im cooked
@wispy tendon how many picks away till my one
My turn?
Yes.
2 picks btw
Oh ok
You have 1 hour btw
Harry Kane is taken
Ok
Pscho ,never heard of that baller 
Piszczek and Pacho's long lost relative?

Leverkust π
@frozen grove
All gud
Is Balde the best LB in the world?
10
12
2
No!
β
Highlights π , half of them are him abusing pace
Nuno mendes is the. Best lb then its cucurella for the fact he can invert inside go up then have the stamina to go up and defend, Hes rapid cucurella is, He has a slow chelsea start now hes proving his worth, Balde is 3rd end off
I see him dribbling not just pace abusing assisting and scoring
Everything you said Cucu can do Balde does better
But stick to watching just prem
I watch other leagues
Championship?
Loads of league as I do anyalise,
What league you watch?
Serie A, Ligue 1, Premier League, Bundesliga, Championship, Rest are Local, National League every now and then
Notice how you didn't mention laliga
You can't really judge balde yk
But National league is crazy work
But I get why you don't watch LaLiga it's boring af
My next pick depends what everybody chooses
Goalkeepers are easy
I want the best one
Best one is taken
But I know somebody who had a good breakthru szn
In premier league
But some of the best are at ages that there's better players in other positions
Pratman
Get a veteran goalkeeper
Im gonna test Serie A with my goalkeeper
Judge might've been drunk during the rankings tho
I'm gonna get an underrated serie a midfielder
But late on cause I doubt anyone will go for him
I guess ucl footy
There a good 2001 cm
Same actually
Late 90s
And thats proof @arctic fjord is an everton fan
Hey man what can i sqy
A loyal fan right there
Aren't you like Irish?
Uhhh
This guy ANALYZES leagues but thinks mbappe had a bad season
Don't trust his analytics
Hes a Chelsea fan
Explains it
Even worse
He had a decent season
Not his best
Doesn't mean it's bad
He had a shite start but amazing rest of the season
The problem mbappe lacked mainly is the lack of team around him letting him fowm
If 31 laliga goals is decent what does the brother need to do to have a good season
Not his fault his team was horrible
31 league goals is nothing to scoff at
31 league is poor
Its m8d
Didn't he score more than Ronaldo in his debut
This guy gets ball knowledge from reels
"Best player"
By that logic, Chris Wood is worse
No mate I watch games
Haaland only scored 35 with the best team in the world he sucks
The guy couldn't even do his signature move cause of the league and still got 31 goals what else do you need to hear
Ok thats true
AND playing out of position
That one too
34 actually
He was terrible
Think of hype
He carried a pretty poor Madrid team
2 were pens I'm pretty sure
For ezample
He scored the most la Liga goals since 18/19
And that was Messi
Had more than benzema in his Balon D'or season
Lewa could've probably scored like 30 tbh but he got injured
But la liga is not hard
7 in the UCL
@frozen grove Retegui or Mbappe
6-7 percent
Tuff
AND
If you add the :33 in the time top left that's 6 plus the 7 that you typed what does that mean 6-7
No wonder he said cucu tht Good π
Beat messi record fr
Cucu's good not Balde good tho
U score ut first then call it mud π
Depends on club impact really isnt it, Retegui Had Less G/A and Played more as a False 9 really Massive Goal to Xg Ratio of 1.91 compared to mbappe 1.2
You cant compare these 2 rlly as one is a false 9 who linked in behind, aka Retegui and Mbappe was a more inbehind striker
I would say Mbappe edges that argument but Retegui was more crucial in Atalanta system, Him and Ederson did really well for Atalanta
Called it
A lot of yap without saying who's better π
I said Mbappe Edges
Hmm yes and then u said retegui more imp too
But u could argue Serie A is more competivie than La Liga
Hence confusing
It's harder to score in Laliga
I'm not gonna argue rn cause we do not need another @normal parcel type argument π
White
Hmm yes now u split ur votes good
Where would Inigo Martinez rank in your tots CB
Top 5
Hes the reason for Hansi flick high line
Thats why it got exposed alot more this season
@arctic fjord
I speak no rankings
But he better than yoro I can assure u π
Bastoni?
π€
Look imo he's a top 2 CB so I'll take him
All is ur opinions I'll only give mine when I release ranking
Its the truth
Best cb is maguire fr
Psg vs chelsea is a example, Due to him not being Belgardo and Nuno mendes get exposed, Mainly cuz Nuno was overlapping, and Belgardo is weak, Vitinha Was psgs best player that day because Vitinha was covering
The π
Top 6-7
Would PSG have gotten past Liverpool wothout Marquinnhos
Would Liverpool got past without allison 1st leg?
Would Liverpool have reached here without klopp?
No
I'm saying Marquinnhos was literally RB,LCB,RCB,LB
Played everywhere
Pacho was most consitant
Good atleast u know smth
U stinky
Get a load of this guy
Consistent*
Tactical analysist
Analyst it's spelled tbh
Idgaf
It shows yes
Right I will tell u why klopp wouldn't work
Arnes First move was bring Gravenberch as a 6
Klopp wouldnt of done that
Uhhh
Getting quiet board with this dabeta
Gravenberch was there b4 slot...




