Draft Discussion No.17

[serene onyx]

Here we go!!

@hollow silo talk here please

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wdym by all time u23 xi?

[hollow silo]

First time, here, my bad.

[hardy ravine]

As usual I'm a replacement

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Like if its all time then they arent u23

[serene onyx]

#1309006458561495040 message

[serene onyx]

Here is the explanation

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ohh

[serene onyx]

Like the best players from when they were U23. Works the same as a all time serie a XI just it's like the best seasons of players that were U23. Like Lamine Yamal [24/25] (18).

For others btw

Ofc the U23 is winning out of the gates 💀

[hardy ravine]

Pick Neymar fr

[serene onyx]

I'll sit out if that's the theme

[hardy ravine]

CDM:Boubacar Kamarab(22) 24/25

[serene onyx]

🤦🏽‍♂️

Not how it works

It has to be a season where they are U23

[hardy ravine]

Btw thanks for not including aaron wan Bissaka in spurs

[hardy ravine]

Like this

?

Being a replacement is so fun

[serene onyx]

Yeah

[hardy ravine]

Ima delete it

[serene onyx]

You should've kept your mouth shut

No one likes the rivals XI (interesting)

[hardy ravine]

Oop

[serene onyx]

All good

[brave berry]

Can i join?

[serene onyx]

Just vote in the polls

[hardy ravine]

Aint no way im bouta be double spurs Moment

[serene onyx]

Let's give it 24 hours

[finite helm]

Interesting

[acoustic shell]

Which one is yours?

[hardy ravine]

Berat jomisti and wan baisska

[serene onyx]

@fresh pier will be judging this draft people

[winged fern]

@serene onyx which was me

[fresh pier]

Wait whay I won ??

[serene onyx]

Check #1390187646860529685

[fresh pier]

I saaaaaaw

Get in

WE WIN THESSSSSSEEEE

[serene onyx]

U and @finite helm are the only 2 to win a draft and win Spurs Award

[fresh pier]

Well I'm glad to join this incredible list :]

I just saw how many points budimir got me :0 I could've got sub 40

I would've need top 6 striker but like still

[hollow quartz]

Barca Vs Madrid?

Arsenal Vs spurs?

Etc

[serene onyx]

Well how it'll work is, you pick one player from a club, your next player has to be from their main rival

[hollow quartz]

Ah

So

1. Mbappe
2. Yamal
3. Salah
4. Bruno
5. Dimarco
6. Reijnders

And so on?

@serene onyx

[serene onyx]

Yeah

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Ya obv no one will like it if i pick isak i have to pick someone from bloody sunderland next 💀

if i pick eze i have to pick someone from charlton bloody athletic 😭

[serene onyx]

Just be smart about it lol

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Im more surprised no one wants to do la liga xi

[serene onyx]

Yeah, only 1 person

[serene onyx]

Also if its the U23 theme, I'll probably sit out ngl

[brave berry]

Done

[graceful violet]

Yo my idea won

W

[serene onyx]

I'm sitting it out (probably)

[graceful violet]

Oh dang

U23 is gonna be hard though

First pick for is gonna be obvious

[serene onyx]

For like 100+ players

[graceful violet]

Yeah

[serene onyx]

I'll pass

[graceful violet]

@serene onyx U23 would include 23 year olds right? Just making sure

[serene onyx]

Yes

[fresh pier]

Ight @serene onyx can't wait to judge

[serene onyx]

Dms

[fresh pier]

Vet

Bet

[serene onyx]

@winged fern moment

[fresh pier]

Hahaha

[serene onyx]

Btw, the U23 XI will be since 1990

90/91 season

[graceful violet]

Oh bet

[serene onyx]

I've also been asked to help judge with @fresh pier and so I will

[graceful violet]

I know what my pick is

[serene onyx]

I was considering since 2000

But I'll be nice

[fresh pier]

Yeeeee ty nipun

[serene onyx]

No worries

[graceful violet]

First round is gonna be easy then it gets hard

[serene onyx]

There are some solid seasons

I have a sneaky winger pick but I aint participating in the U23 thing

[graceful violet]

Is that sneaky pick Yamal

Would be very sneaky

[serene onyx]

Sneakier

Make it 2 actually

[hollow quartz]

If they turn 24 during season anything from there doesn't count?@serene onyx

[serene onyx]

If they turn 24 during the season, thats fine as that'll be the last season they're eligible for anyway

[finite helm]

U23 it is then

Can't wait

Need to win this time round 🥀

[hollow quartz]

Sweet

Is team performance gonna affect judging much?

Or just personal

Stats, player of year etc

[serene onyx]

Personal mainly

[hollow quartz]

Balon dors

And so on

[serene onyx]

As long as they are 23 at the start of the season

[serene onyx]

Yeah, remember, it's single season since 1990

[graceful violet]

I'ma cook

I have like

2 players

[serene onyx]

[fresh pier]

Lowk I've got a good few

I'm judging tho so

[finite helm]

When draft

[void forge]

@serene onyx We can pick any player we want when they were under the age of 23?

[fresh pier]

Yes

[void forge]

Oh I see

[fresh pier]

Also 23 is allowed I'm pretty sure

So like 23 or younger

[graceful violet]

Yup

[fresh pier]

Ight cool I'm judging so gl guys

[finite helm]

Start of season they need to be 23

[serene onyx]

Yes

[serene onyx]

So am I lol

[graceful violet]

Third place again

W

Bro put s4vi at the front so the guy has a chance to win

First pick is a no brainer

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hmm if i was first i wont pick messi or ronaldo tbf

i learnt my lesson wif wingers

[serene onyx]

I literally just used a website lol

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and why tf did u use the most random player in the example

like nigel rice cooker srsly??!

[acoustic shell]

He's a Villa player

[graceful violet]

Rice cooker is crazy work

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i see...

[fresh pier]

Ye ikkkkk js yk

[acoustic shell]

Agbonlahor was better suited tbh

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fr

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wait i js realised u aint in the draft

[acoustic shell]

I'm not.
I have a project out of town for the next 15-20 days.
Won't be able to really follow up the draft.

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i see i see gd luck for ur project

[acoustic shell]

Sure thank you

[hardy ravine]

Can i be a replacement for now

[serene onyx]

You are

[serene onyx]

@void forge 5 hours

[hollow quartz]

Bros gonna get a strike first pick 💀🤣

[serene onyx]

He will fall down the order until he makes a pick so, not my problem

@void forge 2 hours

[hardy ravine]

10 mina left

Crazy

[graceful violet]

He's cooked bro

Strike 1 first pick lmao

@brave berry go

[fathom vector]

Hello everyone

[graceful violet]

This finna be the longest draft ever with yes and s4vi up front

[void forge]

Sorry

When u pinged me it was 3 AM

I'll make my pick now

I picked Ronaldo Nazarios ballon d'or season

[void forge]

How is it my fault when it was 3 am when it was my turn

@brave berry your turn

[graceful violet]

Not your fault everybody sleeps

Bruh took Ronaldo good pick

That was probably everybody's first pick

[void forge]

Lol I know thankfully I got the first choice

After Ronaldo I swear Yamal will be picked immediately

[graceful violet]

He shouldn't

Compared to other seasons there has been better

But Yamal did have an insane season

[acoustic shell]

When it's 3am you got your turn, means it's 3 pm when your 12 hours mark is missed.

[graceful violet]

No when it was 3am he had 5 hours left

Draft started at 8:05 pm

[acoustic shell]

The first ping is 8 pm then
So he got between 8pm to 8am.
More than enough time ig.

[graceful violet]

Yeah it's just unfortunate timing for him since lots of people sleep at 8 and then wake up at around 8

[acoustic shell]

Damn, those people exist?

[graceful violet]

I think yes is one of them

[void forge]

No

But I didn't check discord

[hollow quartz]

@brave berry 6.5~ hours

[graceful violet]

@brave berry about 2 hours

[brave berry]

Ok

@graceful violet ok

[graceful violet]

Lmao knew you would pick yamal

@kindred swan Go

[kindred swan]

What

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is it my turn?

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pick a player

[kindred swan]

For what

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For the draft

[kindred swan]

Random player?

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Go to #┣📄・the-football-draft and see

ok not my turn yet i will be back in 8h

[kindred swan]

I picked

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U supposed to ping the next person as well but idk who ... is

@tame widget go

[graceful violet]

@kindred swan When somebody pings you it means you have to pick and then after your pick you ping the next person 👍

And as for the age put the age they started the season with

[kindred swan]

Ok

I didn't know thanks for telling me

[tame widget]

LW Cristiano Ronaldo (07/8) (23)

@finite helm 12 hours

[hollow quartz]

Yamal before Messi wtf 😭💀

[acoustic shell]

Crazy lol

[hollow quartz]

Ronaldo was a rw btw @tame widget

[graceful violet]

Picking Yamal was a crazy choice there lmao

[serene onyx]

Choosing Dybala early is an interesting choice

[kindred swan]

My goat

[serene onyx]

Yeah but, I reckon he would've stuck around for at least a few rounds

[kindred swan]

It is what it is

[serene onyx]

Its not like @acoustic shell is in the draft (Hes a Juventus fan fyi)

[serene onyx]

Thats fair

[kindred swan]

I ain't even a juve fan

[serene onyx]

Oh ok, but like, he would've been the only guy to take him early maybe

Compared to others at least

[kindred swan]

Yh I didn't really think of it

[serene onyx]

There are tactics to this game yk

[kindred swan]

After you tag the next person do you tell them a specific time that they have?

[serene onyx]

Its not as simple as you think

[serene onyx]

The next person will have 12 hours always, unless they are talking on discord, then they have 1 hour

[kindred swan]

Oh ok

[serene onyx]

If they don't pick on time, they get a strike

2 strikes mean you're out

Players unavailable:

Ronaldo Nazario
Lamine Yamal
Lionel Messi
Paulo Dybala
Cristiano Ronaldo
Michael Owen
Roberto Carlos
Paolo Maldini
Trent Alexander-Arnold
Kylian Mbappe
Mario Balotelli
Matthijs De Ligt
Cesc Fabregas
John Terry
Stephan El Shaarawy
Dani Alves
Andres Iniesta
Neymar
Phil Foden
Ronaldinho
Iker Casillas
Nemanja Vidic
Cole Palmer
Manuel Neuer
Thibaut Courtois
Mesut Ozil
Alessandro Del Piero
Erling Haaland
Luis Suarez
Rafael Van der Vaart
Sergio Ramos
Dele Alli
Alessandro Nesta
Jeremie Frimpong
Wayne Rooney
Theo Hernandez
Pau Cubarsi
Gianluigi Donnarumma
Sergej Milinkovic-Savic
Raphael Varane
Paul Pogba
Federico Valverde
Jude Bellingham
Alejandro Balde
Kaka
Alphonso Davies
Petr Cech
Gianluigi Buffon
Vinicius Jr
Andre Onana
Marcus Rashford
Ashley Cole
Sergio Busquets
Gareth Bale
William Saliba
Gerard Pique
Pedri
Ederson
Philipp Lahm
Raheem Sterling
Clarence Seedorf
Cristian Romero
Ryan Gravenberch
Eder Militao
Dean Henderson
Ruben Dias

[kindred swan]

You can put any positions right?

[serene onyx]

No, they have to play a certain amount

[kindred swan]

Wdym

[serene onyx]

For example, Dybala is only eligible to be a CAM (we made CAM/SS the same thing)

He needs to have at least 33% of his most played position to be eligible to be in another position

[kindred swan]

Yh ok I meant that you can put Cubarsi for example not only attackers

[serene onyx]

Its a full team

GKs, CBs everything

No bench

Just starting xi

[serene onyx]

You can look at #1390187646860529685 to see how we mark things

Winner has to get the lowest score

They will judge the next draft and get the POTW role

[kindred swan]

Ok

[serene onyx]

Highest score means last and you add Spurs Award Winner to ur name

In this server

Like @void forge

[void forge]

🥲

[still torrent]

Bro u can remove urs

Its savi that needs to put his

[serene onyx]

No, its Yes

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oh

bro got 2 spurs awards 💀

[serene onyx]

I forgot about my own rule and needed to change the scores to factor it in

So yes lost because of that

[finite helm]

@hollow quartz turn

[finite helm]

definitely

[finite helm]

i dont wanna judge if i win 💔

[hollow quartz]

Roberto carlos

@still torrent 12 hour

[fathom vector]

fr

[still torrent]

@finite talon go

[still torrent]

roberto carlos instead of maldini?

[hollow quartz]

Roberto was better at that age than maldini

Later career maldini >

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21 goals conceded and went unbeaten lol

and at that era maldini is more complete in fitting the role of a traditional lb

[finite talon]

@haughty swan next

2 picks

[kindred swan]

Is that trent?

[hollow quartz]

Yea

XD

[kindred swan]

Should've put Lahm

[serene onyx]

You need to state his age btw

[serene onyx]

Bros giving people ideas lol

[kindred swan]

I just don't want snakes here

[serene onyx]

Also Grealish doesnt play RB

[finite helm]

Didn't know 🐀 was a player 😭

(yes ik who it is but still :p )

[serene onyx]

Hes playing Grealish out of position but eh

@finite helm check dms

[finite talon]

grealish left for 100m bro

dunno what ur on about

[serene onyx]

Just like Trent, wanted to stay a Villa player

[finite talon]

at the start of the season?

[serene onyx]

Yes

[serene onyx]

He was through our academy and supports our club

Like Ozzy Osbourne (RIP)

[finite talon]

im not mad that he left im just annoyed that he left for free

couldve gone for at least 70m

[serene onyx]

Firstly, @winged fern moment. Secondly, that makes him a rat?

[finite talon]

and he left for real madrid

and he planned the whole thing

[serene onyx]

Madrid is Madrid

City are oil scums

[finite talon]

flip madrid

[serene onyx]

(Sorry Dylan)

[finite talon]

bro how many ucl finals have we lost to them 😭😭😭

[serene onyx]

I dont love them either but, City is a bigger enemy in my books

[finite talon]

like 2

[finite talon]

we're talking about ucl tho

[serene onyx]

Madrid? Maybe

[serene onyx]

Yeah true

You have Frimpong tho (which wasnt necessary but ok)

[finite talon]

city is pretty much wasted now lol

[serene onyx]

If Rodri comes back 90% how we was before tho

We're cooked

[finite talon]

rodri would get cooked by wirtz 🔥

[serene onyx]

Oh relax

Tielemans better anyway

He'll cook everyone

[finite talon]

[serene onyx]

Why do u think he was 2nd in CDMs behind Caicedo only

[finite talon]

nipuns high again

[serene onyx]

Blud thinks I smoke

[finite talon]

i dont think you smoke i know you smome

smoke

gravenberch clears anyway

[serene onyx]

No he doesnt

Absolutely not

[graceful violet]

Tielemans is better than gravenberch

[serene onyx]

THANK YOU!!

[graceful violet]

Gravenberch gets carried a bit by his teammates

[serene onyx]

Ikr

[finite talon]

no he carries the team 💀

[serene onyx]

Heat map, G/A, defensive metrics, and match ratings don't back u

[finite talon]

he doesnt do that bro

hes not the guy to defend or score goals

[serene onyx]

Even the eye test backs Tielemans

[finite talon]

nah bro

[serene onyx]

And clutch? Tielemans was crucial at Villa Park against you lot

We should've won that game honestly

[finite talon]

gravenberch would be my pots after salah bro

[serene onyx]

[finite talon]

gravenberch is the guy who does the work in the background bro

stats dont do him justice

[graceful violet]

All gravenberch does is interceptions

[finite talon]

in liverpool

2nd most important player this season

no gravenberch no title

[serene onyx]

Oh pls

Apparently Van Dijk plays basketball

[graceful violet]

Lmao

[finite talon]

yeah no

van dijk is 3rd

abosultely not better than gravenberch

[serene onyx]

Idk about that

[hollow quartz]

💀

[serene onyx]

Welcome

How's the Jet2 holiday to Mallorca?

[hollow quartz]

Got home Saturday 🤣

And it was tui

Hopefully my draft turn when works done 💀

[serene onyx]

Is this to me or @finite talon

[serene onyx]

Surely that'll be the case but who knows

[hollow quartz]

Him

[serene onyx]

Ok, so I'm not crazy then

That's good to hear

[haughty swan]

Ok

@finite talon Ur turn

[finite talon]

took deligt

@still torrent 12 hrs

[still torrent]

Woah u srsly pmo bro

my next 2 picks taken by u

[finite talon]

i just thought id start witht the back line

bc everyones taking forwards :/

[still torrent]

im changing strategy

went for fabregas

@hollow quartz go

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my g carried assenal to 3rd place with a trash ahh squad

[still torrent]

same bro

[graceful violet]

I should probably focus on the back like but that's boring

[hollow quartz]

CB John Terry 04/05

@finite helm 12 hour

[void forge]

What?

I already lost the draft?

[still torrent]

no bro it was the draft before lol

[void forge]

Aw man and I thought I won 🥲

I won't lose this one 🥹

[graceful violet]

My bet for spurs award is on laertis

[kindred swan]

Really?

[graceful violet]

Just because it's your first draft

[kindred swan]

We'll see

[graceful violet]

And the first pick isn't very strategic and it's the most important but yeah we'll see

[kindred swan]

I mean I have a few great picks coming up I just hope no-one gets them

[graceful violet]

I'm taking them

[kindred swan]

No you ain't

[graceful violet]

Oh you pick before me

Pretty sure we have the same next pick

[kindred swan]

What position

[graceful violet]

DMs

[kindred swan]

Nah you're good

Wait youmean CDM right?

[graceful violet]

No

Okay then I'm good

[hollow quartz]

@finite helm 7 hour

[finite helm]

😂

[finite helm]

@tame widget turn

[void forge]

NO.

WHO TOOK MALDINI

😢

ITS ALWAYS YOU GUYS TAKING HIM BEFORE ME 🥹

[serene onyx]

That'll be @still torrent

[serene onyx]

I have 2 others that back me yk

[void forge]

😔

[tame widget]

RB: Dani Alves (06/07) (23)

@kindred swan 12 hours

[serene onyx]

@kindred swan when you make another pick, edit your existing message

[graceful violet]

Got to add 1st to it

Like the others

[kindred swan]

How do Ik if they're online or not so I can put the hours they have

@graceful violet 12 hours

[serene onyx]

Its more if they message anywhere on here whilst its their turn

[still torrent]

unlucky bro but there are still some rly class lb

[serene onyx]

@graceful violet less than 9 hours left

[hollow quartz]

@graceful violet 6 hours left

[graceful violet]

Alright time to pick

[serene onyx]

56 minutes left

[graceful violet]

@brave berry go

Change my Messi picks year and got Neymar's best season before he turned 23

[serene onyx]

@brave berry 12 hours

[brave berry]

What year is Baggio turns 22?

[graceful violet]

My front 2 is probably 2 of the bedt individual U23 seasons by a winger,

Messi was a stroker oops

Striker

[serene onyx]

@winged fern moment

[serene onyx]

also that sounds crazy yk

[brave berry]

Xd

[serene onyx]

you have 1 hour to pick ur player now

[graceful violet]

Yeah lmao

[kindred swan]

Why didn't you go for his 14/15 season?

[graceful violet]

Neymar?

[kindred swan]

Yh

[graceful violet]

He was in his statistical prime 15/16

If it was based of team performance too

Then I would choose 14/15

[kindred swan]

Ok

[serene onyx]

individual perfomances matter more than team performance

[graceful violet]

Team doesn't matter at all right

You said solely based off individual performance

[serene onyx]

team performance is a tiebreaker if 2 players are basically identical

[graceful violet]

Oh alright

I should start focusing on defense

But nah

I'ma build the most nasty front 3 and then have nobody behind them 🔥

[serene onyx]

remembers fullbacks are scarce btw

[kindred swan]

I'm probably going for defence for my next pick

[brave berry]

I choose foden

@void forge pls end me

12hrs

[graceful violet]

Bro is going for that spurs award

Two peat

[kindred swan]

There were so many better CAM why did you go for Foden 😭😭😭

[brave berry]

Idk bcs i always running out of ideas when it comes for another pick

[serene onyx]

just research

its not hard

[graceful violet]

🥀

[brave berry]

Ight

[graceful violet]

Yes probably gonna take an Hour and 16 minutes

That's my prediction

[serene onyx]

generous, i think he'll take longer tbh

[kindred swan]

I'm easily winning this

[serene onyx]

lets see

[graceful violet]

With dybala as your cam?

Everybody has a chance it's just harder when you fluff your first pick

[kindred swan]

Did you watch football that season

[graceful violet]

I know he was great but not first pick great

[kindred swan]

I have some better ones

And Messi was taken so

I've even built a team on lineup builder

[graceful violet]

I'm just winging it

[kindred swan]

Nahh

[serene onyx]

thats what will limit you from winning yk

[serene onyx]

I tried to do it that way, Curt and Elohim were way too sweaty so, I had to join them and now Ive replaced Elohim at this point

[graceful violet]

I mean I finished third by winging it

Last draft

[serene onyx]

i was second doing that so

I wanted to win so I had to start researching

[graceful violet]

I research but I don't have a list

[serene onyx]

ah fairs

[winged fern]

He strokes people?!

[serene onyx]

apparently

[kindred swan]

Can I change my player's position? @serene onyx

[serene onyx]

if they have played at least 33% of their main position for that season, then yes

otherwise no

[kindred swan]

How do I check that

[serene onyx]

check transfermarkt

[kindred swan]

It says SS here and I've put him CAM

[serene onyx]

yeah thats fine

[kindred swan]

Ok

[serene onyx]

SS/CAM is the same thing pretty much

[kindred swan]

Ok but do I have to go with a 4-3-3?

[serene onyx]

Use whatever formation you want, as long as it has been used by an actual team

[serene onyx]

#┣📄・the-football-draft message here's an example (this got me my first w btw)

[void forge]

@serene onyx

Do I get two picks?

[hollow quartz]

Yes@void forge

[void forge]

Okay thanks

[hollow quartz]

Yes yes 🤣

[void forge]

😭

I picked ronaldinho and iker casillas

@brave berry your turn

[graceful violet]

Casillas was my next pick 😔

[void forge]

Sorry bro but I'm locked in on this draft

[brave berry]

Yey i actually got it

@graceful violet 12hrs

[graceful violet]

Wait nipun say a player played 15 games at ST and 15 at LW and they had the same amount of G/A in each, would only the position you choose count or would both of them count combined

@kindred swan Go

My front 3 looking nice

I'm cooked for my defense

[void forge]

MPN

Messi Palmer Neymar 😭

[graceful violet]

Lol

Goated trio

[void forge]

Fr

[graceful violet]

23/24 palmer was something else ngl

Bro carried 10 bums

[void forge]

I can't imagine him leaving Chelsea

[graceful violet]

Yeah me neither

[finite talon]

what the flip is that front 3

crazy

[graceful violet]

My backline finna be players from the new Zealand league

[finite helm]

💀

[finite helm]

I won from winging it

[kindred swan]

@tame widget your turn

[graceful violet]

Can't choose mvb

It's only until 1990

[kindred swan]

Ohhh

Wait

Fixed it

My bad

[serene onyx]

Both would be combined

[graceful violet]

Alright good

[hollow quartz]

@tame widget 6 hours

[tame widget]

GK: Thibaut Courtois (13/14) (21)

@finite helm 12 hours

[finite helm]

@hollow quartz ur turn

Ozil having 29 assists and 10 goals in back 2 back seasons even at age of 20...mans too underrated

[acoustic shell]

Yeah he and 2 others, I'm surprised hasn't taken yet

[finite helm]

Dm me fr

[serene onyx]

Dm me, I'm judging so

[serene onyx]

Google it lol

[finite helm]

Lazy

[serene onyx]

We know

[hollow quartz]

Del piero 97/98

@still torrent 12 hour

[hollow quartz]

That'll be one of them🤣

48 g/a in 47 games

[still torrent]

look at u ppl going for cams

[serene onyx]

You have 1 hour btw

[still torrent]

ok i chose a treble winning 61 g/a striker

@finite talon go

how was haaland not chosen yet bruh 😭

[serene onyx]

Cause there's loads of strikers probably

[still torrent]

tbf i cant name a striker that has over 61 g/a thats eligible in this list

[acoustic shell]

Yeah haha

[hollow quartz]

Just realised all my picks are 23 💀🤣

[finite talon]

@haughty swan 12hrs

[kindred swan]

Noooooooooo

Whyyyy

You had so many other positions 😭😭😭😭

[finite talon]

i meam

there are probably bwtter striekrs than suarez

[kindred swan]

Now I have to go for one that I don't even like

[still torrent]

@haughty swan 8h

btw nipun ur goat p15 for sprint 🤣🤣🤣

[serene onyx]

Hes also @hollow quartz but ok

[still torrent]

oh rly? i see

[serene onyx]

But I'm just not surprised, its Ferrari

[still torrent]

fr i stg the most unexpected team on the grid 🔥🔥

[serene onyx]

I'm just gonna wait for a miracle for Lewis to be good especially with how Ferrari are

[still torrent]

i mean 6th rn isnt too bad

[serene onyx]

Yeah but, was hoping he'd be 4th

[graceful violet]

No way haaland lasted this long

Probably only my Messi has more G/A as a striker than haalnd

[finite helm]

i debated him but ozil is my 🐐

[hardy ravine]

Agreed

[haughty swan]

Well Ferrari is so slow

I'm happy Max won and not the McLaren's

Btw @finite talon your turn

I picked van de vaart and Sergio Ramos

[fresh pier]

Can some Irish players get big moves please

Like

The only 1 who's got a big move so far is like fergusson

And tbf in his first game he got 4 goals and an assist for roma

But like

There's obviously Mason melia who's joining spurs

But he won't start cuz he only 18

Kelleher got a big move to Brentford but he's been shi

Szmodics and ogbene gonna cook on the championship

Finn azaz had links w a few prem clubs but nun have made offers

Jake o obrien has been class for Everton

Liam scales need to join a prem side

O shea 2 he gotta get back in the pren

Bazunu needs to stay fit

And we need to trust youngsters and not like killian Phillips who's 22 and just joined St mirren

Call up melia

[kindred swan]

He's been shi? What games do you watch he was the best backup keeper itw for years

[kindred swan]

.

[fresh pier]

For his first game for Brentford I mean the friendly

He got a 5.8 rating conceded once and subbed off half time

[kindred swan]

Mate it's friendly every keeper gets subbed off at half time

[fresh pier]

Still 5.8

[kindred swan]

Nd 5.8 doesn't mean anything it's a friendly most friendly games always have different ratings

[fresh pier]

Like my guy he conceded in 10 mins to gil Vicente in Portugal

[kindred swan]

Ok and?

[fresh pier]

And it was actually 5.6 I just checked

[kindred swan]

Still doesn't mean anything

[fresh pier]

:/ better not we need a good gk

Festy ebosele has lit disappeared

[kindred swan]

Even Courtois conceded to PACHUCA

[fresh pier]

He's only 22 but idek where he plays anymore

[kindred swan]

And you're here telling me that kelleher conceded to gil vicente

[fresh pier]

Thats the cwc tho the courtois game

[kindred swan]

Even worse

[fresh pier]

Well not really when yehave trent at rb

[kindred swan]

Look at the team that Brentford has

[fresh pier]

Not even a bad tram

Atleast 4 of them have played for Liverpool in the last 4 years

Kayode is a future star rb

[kindred swan]

Is ut much better than this one

[fresh pier]

Shade is OK ig ntb not the best

[fresh pier]

I'd swap trent for kayode then ye probably

[kindred swan]

Just stfu already this has to be ragebait

[fresh pier]

Trent is ahhh bro

He lit got asencio sent off

[kindred swan]

And why would you start this conversation in this chat

[fresh pier]

Wanted to rant abt ireland having shi pkayers

[kindred swan]

Why here

Go to main chat

[fresh pier]

Effort

[hollow quartz]

Suarez scored 3 more than haaland

[still torrent]

in eredivisie

[finite helm]

hell nah kelleher is an amazing keeper

[graceful violet]

Yeah in Eridivisie

Haaland was still better

[acoustic shell]

They will.
If they're good enough.
But the thing is, they're average at best.

[hardy ravine]

Like Jack Grealish to Man City?

[kindred swan]

Nah I think he's talking bout 🍚

[hardy ravine]

Ah the irish midfielder from arsenal

[kindred swan]

Yh

[hollow quartz]

8.5 hours @finite talon

[finite talon]

lfc rejects (except hendo)

took dele alli

@still torrent 12 hrs

[kindred swan]

Whyyyyyyyy

[finite talon]

he was ur next pick?

lol

[kindred swan]

No but he was someone I was considering to get

Cause I haven't watched the season of a guy that I would pick over him

[still torrent]

Picked nesta

@hollow quartz go

[void forge]

U picked maldini and nesta 🥹

[still torrent]

an unbeaten scudetto milan x captain of domestic treble winning lazio how could i not?

[hollow quartz]

Jeremie Frimpong

@finite helm 12 hour

[finite helm]

@tame widget turn

@serene onyx am i able to play a lw as a lm since wide midfielders and wingers r judged under same category anyways?

[hollow quartz]

Yea

RB/rwb, lb/lwb...SS/cam...RM/rw, lm/lw...st/CF all ranked the same

[serene onyx]

If you are using a 4 back formation then yes

[finite helm]

ok

[finite talon]

my next pick 😭

[graceful violet]

@tame widget 7 hours

[void forge]

😢

[hollow quartz]

@tame widget 4 hours

[tame widget]

LB: Theo Hernández (21/22) (23)

@kindred swan 12 hours

[kindred swan]

CB cubarsi

@graceful violet

12hours

[graceful violet]

Hmm offense or defense

[finite talon]

neither

[graceful violet]

@brave berry go

Took donnarurma

[kindred swan]

I went for a CB cause I thought that you'd go for a defender ffs

[brave berry]

@void forge 12hrs

Im pretty sure i have 100% ball knowledge right?

[kindred swan]

So manyyyyyy more better ones thank God you didn't go for anyone of them

But it's still a good one

[finite talon]

why are you so obsessed with milenkovic savic

u picked him last draft

[brave berry]

idk bcs I WAS RUNNING OUT OF IDEA EVERY SINGLE TIME

[graceful violet]

This guy's obsessed with sergej

Bro chose him last draft too I think

Or before that

[void forge]

Picked varane and pogba

@brave berry your turn

[brave berry]

@graceful violet we are so back

12hrs

[graceful violet]

@kindred swan go

[kindred swan]

@tame widget go

The 5th pick has been going really fast

[graceful violet]

Make sure to label your picks

By 1st to 5th

[kindred swan]

Oh

[still torrent]

*had been

[still torrent]

oh my days seems like alot of ppl wanted nesta

[finite helm]

Aww I wanted varane

[serene onyx]

@tame widget 6 hours to go

[hollow quartz]

@tame widget just over 3 hours

[kindred swan]

Yh

[finite helm]

@tame widget 1 hour

[kindred swan]

Is he sleeping or smth

[fresh pier]

I'm thinking of trying the challenge thoughts

[serene onyx]

Huh?

@tame widget strike 1

@finite helm 12 hours

[kindred swan]

Will he be able to pick the next ones?

[fresh pier]

There's a new como challenge I'm thinking of trying it but I have a leverkusen save what u thinking

[serene onyx]

Whoever pick players will be unavailable

[finite talon]

ofc lol

[hollow quartz]

@finite helm 7 hours

[finite helm]

@hollow quartz 12 hrs

[hollow quartz]

Petr cech

@still torrent 12 hour

[acoustic shell]

Finally lol
Can't imagine him last this long tbh

[hollow quartz]

Fr

People slept on cech and del piero

[still torrent]

bruh

anyways i pick buffon

@finite talon go

[hollow quartz]

Assume u wanted him?

[still torrent]

ya thats why i went for the second best option now that he's gone

[hollow quartz]

Only worry is cech maybe get marked down due to his defence but we'll see ig lol

Think he was the only one to get world goalkeeper of the year tho under 23

Ngl my John Terry pick made cech obvious 🤣

First pick that wasn't 23 💀

[finite talon]

@haughty swan 12 hrs

[still torrent]

@haughty swan less than 7h

[haughty swan]

Ok

@finite talon 12 hours

[finite talon]

@still torrent 12hrs

[kindred swan]

Davies has been picked

[finite talon]

flip

nooo

[serene onyx]

Interesting season choice

[still torrent]

no one picked a cdm yet? interesting

I picked busquets

@hollow quartz go

[kindred swan]

Nooooooooooooooo ffs

Whyyyyyyy

[still torrent]

no one picked a cdm bro i figured i wld get the 1st place hehe

[hollow quartz]

Lw Gareth bale

@finite helm 12 hour

[kindred swan]

He only played 4 games at LW in the 12/13 season according to tranfermarkt

[finite talon]

NO

FFS

I WAS THINKING OF BUSQUETS OR COLE

NO

OMG

[finite talon]

oop

[kindred swan]

Can I go for a 4-3-2-1
2 fullbacks 2 CB 1 CDM 2 CM 2 CAM 1 ST?

[acoustic shell]

Mostly played LM?
They're the same thing.

[acoustic shell]

Yeah Christmas Tree formation exist

[kindred swan]

If I put a CDM it will still count tho right?

Instead of 3 CM

[acoustic shell]

Yeah that's what Ancelotti used at Milan.

Iirc

[graceful violet]

Just make sure that you have proof of another team using it

Since it's a bit weird

With the CDM

[kindred swan]

Ok

[hollow quartz]

Lm/lw ranked the same

[finite helm]

@hollow quartz 12 hrs

[kindred swan]

Curt is above you?

... Is the next one I'm pretty sure

[graceful violet]

@tame widget 12 hrs

Ur time started 18 mins ago

[hollow quartz]

I thought all those picks went quick 😭

[hollow quartz]

2 picks btw

[finite helm]

I'm blind lol

[tame widget]

CB: Gerard Pique (08/09) (22)
CAM: Kaka (02/03) (21)

@kindred swan 12 hours

[kindred swan]

@graceful violet go

12 hours

[graceful violet]

@brave berry go

Chose pedri

Best midfielder itw

[brave berry]

@void forge ok

12hrs

[graceful violet]

Onana is taken

It's not that hard to just check if someone is taken

[brave berry]

What

@void forge sowwy

Change to ederson

[void forge]

Alr ur turn

[graceful violet]

@brave berry

[brave berry]

@graceful violet

12hrs

[graceful violet]

@kindred swan

12hrs

Took romero

Serie a defender of the year 🔥

[kindred swan]

Wdym bro I chose him before you

[kindred swan]

Picked Gravenberch

@tame widget

[hollow quartz]

@kindred swan put his position too...I assume cdm

[kindred swan]

Just did that thanks for telling me

[finite talon]

wth

pedri is still only 22??

thats actually crazy

[kindred swan]

Yh he'll be a top 5 midfielders oat

[serene onyx]

Idk about that

[kindred swan]

Who is gonna be better?

Iniesta Busquets and Xavi

No-one else

[serene onyx]

Scholes, Lampard

Pele

Maradona

Zidane

[kindred swan]

Midfielders

[serene onyx]

Hes a CAM

[kindred swan]

Midfielders

[serene onyx]

Thats crazy

[serene onyx]

Centre Attacking MIDFIELDER

Smh

[kindred swan]

Pedri has the potential to be the best ever

[serene onyx]

Absolutely not

[kindred swan]

Not CF

Absolutely yes

[serene onyx]

CF is ST 🤦🏽‍♂️

[kindred swan]

Ik

[serene onyx]

Won't be better than Lampard, Scholes, Iniesta, Zidane or Maradona or Pele

At least

Maybe more

[kindred swan]

Anyway bro I picked Pedri before @graceful violet and he put him in his team

[hollow quartz]

He said he's only worse than xavi iniesta and busquets??

😭

[kindred swan]

Will definitely be better than lampard and scholes

[hollow quartz]

Or did I misread?

[kindred swan]

He will be worse than them only not currently

[hollow quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/im-leaving-gif-11102179984780734185

[serene onyx]

He WILL be (maybe)

[kindred swan]

Gerrard is better than them

[serene onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/indignation-jump-window-done-gif-3443826

I'm a Villa fan as well

So I have 0 bias

@hollow quartz is old enough to watch them growing up

[kindred swan]

Mcginn is better than them all

[serene onyx]

W

[kindred swan]

Ik

[serene onyx]

No 1 player

[kindred swan]

.

[serene onyx]

Him and Nigel Reo-Coker are my GOATs

@graceful violet change Pedri

[hollow quartz]

Pirlo seedorf Scholes lampard Gerrard modric Matthaus kimmich kroos rodri kaka Zidane maradonna + more > better than Pedro will be.

Pedri*

[serene onyx]

@winged fern moment

[kindred swan]

You can edit your messages

[hollow quartz]

🤣

[serene onyx]

[hollow quartz]

Scholes > Gerrard > lampard in that order.

[kindred swan]

Ref says play on

[serene onyx]

Egregious take

[kindred swan]

Gerrard>Scholes>Lampard

[kindred swan]

I'll give you a warning

[serene onyx]

I should be the guy giving you a suspension

Also I finally updated the list 😭

[hollow quartz]

Who :0

[kindred swan]

What list

[serene onyx]

All these guys

[serene onyx]

@kindred swan

[kindred swan]

Oh

Ok

[hollow quartz]

@tame widget 6.5 hours

[hollow quartz]

Most sure haha

[kindred swan]

I ain't got a RB ffs

[serene onyx]

Cause you and @acoustic shell are fossils

[kindred swan]

I would've put me but I retired too early

[serene onyx]

I won my drafts from get my fullbacks early

[kindred swan]

I mean I got one of the best u23 LB ever

Who should I pick for RB tho everyone has been taken

[serene onyx]

I would say me, but I retired due to a joint condition

[kindred swan]

I also need a CAM or ST

[serene onyx]

Cause I was a Lahm archetype

[kindred swan]

I was a Dani Alves type of palyer

But had no stamina

[serene onyx]

Including jail 👀

[kindred swan]

Key word PLAYER

[serene onyx]

[kindred swan]

He's the best RB ever

[serene onyx]

Ooo...

Idk about that

[kindred swan]

Who is then Neville?

[serene onyx]

No

Its Cafu

[kindred swan]

Matty Cash?

[serene onyx]

Oh pls, I want him gone

[kindred swan]

Nedeljovic?

[serene onyx]

Not any better

Andres Garcia needs time

[kindred swan]

Who do you want at RB for villa

[serene onyx]

Ideally Tomiyasu, Tiago Santos or maybe Daniel Munoz (religion bias)

[kindred swan]

Tomiyasu??

[serene onyx]

A defensive fullback

Our LBs are very attacking

[kindred swan]

An injured FB

[serene onyx]

Also true

[kindred swan]

Do yk Rodinei?

[serene onyx]

The Brazilian in Greece?

[kindred swan]

Yh

[serene onyx]

What about him?

[kindred swan]

Second best RB itw

After Kounde

[serene onyx]

💀

Oh lord

[kindred swan]

3rd cause there's Hakimi

No bias at all

[serene onyx]

Its Greece

[kindred swan]

Atleast he's better than Cash

[serene onyx]

Thats not hard

Even I am at this point

[kindred swan]

6-2

Do you remember that score

[serene onyx]

😕

no.

Imma pretend i dont

[kindred swan]

But it's greece right?

[serene onyx]

Yeah, we also won a game against PSG

Ur point?

And CWC champs Chelsea

[kindred swan]

We won 2 against a prem team

[serene onyx]

We?

[kindred swan]

Almost back to back UCL football too

[kindred swan]

Olympiacos

[serene onyx]

Ur Greek?

Orthodox?

[kindred swan]

Yh

[serene onyx]

This is what came to mind first

Lol

[serene onyx]

You won the dam thing so bwoah

[kindred swan]

?

[serene onyx]

Conference League

[kindred swan]

I kinda feel bad for fiorentina

They always make it to the final or far in the competition and they bottle everything

Anyways, Olympiacos is gonna hunt the UCL teams

[serene onyx]

We'll see

[kindred swan]

I'm predicting 13th in the league and if we get a good opponent then we might be out but if we get a psv or smth we're off to the ro16

We've even made some great signings

Where do you think Villa will make it to in the UCL oh wait I forgot UEL

@serene onyx

🚨🎙️| Nagelsmann: "Ter Stegen? Right now there is another goalie who will play, and I cannot reveal his name now so as not to get ahead of events. If Marc returns to being the main goalkeeper at his club, he can definitely be our first goalkeeper, because he deserves it. But the necessary conditions must be met, just like any other player." #fcblive 🇩🇪

Nagelsman helping us get rid of this fraud

It'll definitely be Kevin Trapp who starts

[finite helm]

Fair but honestly think they all should be put on same level simply because they all were similar but with different traits

[serene onyx]

UEL, we need to win that honestly

[kindred swan]

You won't tho

[graceful violet]

Yeah mb

Lemme change

Done changed to Ronald arujo

Araujo

[kindred swan]

Good one

Should've gone for the 22/23 season tho

[graceful violet]

I mean I can still change

And I picked in a hurry

[kindred swan]

Change it

[graceful violet]

Bro what im missing a pick

Who's turn is it on rn

[kindred swan]

I wouldn't go for him cause they would say it would be Barca bias with the amount of Barca players that I have

@tame widget

This guy's turn

How many picks are you gonna have bro

[graceful violet]

I only replaced my Pedri pick and then my 6th pick was gone so I put that in

[kindred swan]

You've got 8

Most are at 6 and a few at 7

[graceful violet]

Wait what

Oh

I'm so confused 😭

Lemme fix ot

[kindred swan]

😭

[graceful violet]

I just woke up so I'm lost 😭

[kindred swan]

It's ok bro

I now know who your next pick is tho

[graceful violet]

Yeah you probably do lol

[kindred swan]

But that position is way too filled right now for me

[graceful violet]

Yeah

[kindred swan]

I've got to go for attackers

[graceful violet]

Yeah

[kindred swan]

But I left them for the last few picks cause I doubt anyone will remember them

[hollow quartz]

@tame widget just under 4 hours or your out

[tame widget]

CB: Eder Militao (21/22)(23)

@finite helm 12 hours

[finite talon]

gerrad not being part of that message 😭

[finite talon]

can you not crop that photo or just save it as it is lol

[kindred swan]

Nah

[finite talon]

you can take trent bro

release him from his sufferings

[kindred swan]

Gotta be quick with the responses

[finite talon]

and theres no way pedri will be top 5 midfirlders ever

[kindred swan]

Easily

I'm not including the Pele's And the Maradona's or the Cruyff's they're not midfielders

[finite talon]

they are

what are you on about

CAMs are midfielder

its literally in the name

central attacking mid

[graceful violet]

Pedri has potential to be a top 5 CM/DM