Week 6 of Starting XI Sagas Discussion

[minor fiber]

Here we go!!

[lusty shadow]

Hi

[pale nymph]

@minor fiber if its one league xi do eredivisie

[minor fiber]

I'll do a poll

[pale nymph]

Do lower leagues tbh

Not prem laliga etc

But liga portugal, eredivisie, super lig etc

[minor fiber]

That'd be fun tbh

[visual wing]

Guys, if winning the week would count for 5 points, coming 2nd for 4 points, coming 3rd for 3 points, and being under the honourable mentions for one the all-time-table would look like this:

[minor fiber]

Ooh

I love this!

[minor fiber]

Keep it up. I’d like you to give an update every week

[visual wing]

Y´all, are you happy with your placement?

[minor fiber]

I’m not even there

I’m running it

I might participate depending on the theme

[visual wing]

Absolute domination from Kultiger btw

[minor fiber]

Ur doing well in 2nd btw

[visual wing]

thx

but yeah

4/5 podium is just crazy

insane ball knowledge there

[minor fiber]

Hes gonna be tough to stop

[visual wing]

Any chance you could share the table in main starting Xi sagas

so more people get to see it

[minor fiber]

<@&1206185225609150484> <@&1089297063625379971>

How about that?

[noble arrow]

ok

[pure flicker]

3rd just

[hidden tundra]

omg thanks to @visual wing and of course the judges

[minor fiber]

The Jose emoji is crazy

[verbal pike]

Karry Hane 💀

[brisk rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/i-show-speed-speed-shake-now-suck-that-sucking-gif-24039341

[lusty shadow]

Good

[blazing comet]

Robbery tbh

[chilly hearth]

Winning SES week with 5 players out of position and striker that never won any player trophy with only 1 individual award could be robbery

[blazing comet]

I'm joking lol

[verbal pike]

Top 5 me

[visual wing]

my man yaps about positions but then comes up with shi like this 💀

[chilly hearth]

All players are in their positions tho

[minor fiber]

What is that formation?!

Our eyes left the build when me and SOFFI saw that

[blazing comet]

Counters finna be crazy

[chilly hearth]

All players are in their positions tho. I just showed with arrows where would players go during game

343 formation basicly

[hidden tundra]

Beckenbauer in the 80th minute:

[pure flicker]

Hmmm there's an occuring theme of Liverpool screwing up 5v2 in attack 😅😂💀

Yesterday too 😭💀

[minor fiber]

The most SM24 looking Formation I've ever seen

[minor fiber]

Fr

[chilly hearth]

You are just not used to seeing teams without fullbacks

[brisk rampart]

3-2-2-3

[clear elm]

Bro that requires 4 wingers and whatever you made barely had 2 like are you playing with 2 cdms and 2 cms playing as wide midfielders 💀

[clear elm]

Even that is cursed ngl

[minor fiber]

THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING

[clear elm]

Wait doubt
Does individual awards count?

[minor fiber]

May the squad building begin!!!

[minor fiber]

No

[chilly hearth]

343 requires 4 wingers? What are you on? Never heard for box midfield?

[clear elm]

There's 2 wingers in the frontline and 2 wide midfielders who either move up to wingers position or into the cm position

[chilly hearth]

343 flat requires your 4 wingers
343 diamond does not need 4 wingers
343 box does not require 4 wingers

Or you only know 343 flat because your ball knownledge is limited to sm24?

[clear elm]

Fifa

And inter Milan for some reason

[minor fiber]

They don’t use 343

They use 352

[clear elm]

Oh yeah I forgot about that part

My bad

[minor fiber]

I know it for Antonio Conte

[minor fiber]

All good

[chilly hearth]

Inter has been using 352 for years now

[chilly hearth]

Pretty sure fifa has all versions of 343 and you insist that only flat 343 is right one

Smh

[minor fiber]

No it doesn’t

It has flat and diamond

No box looking uh midfield

[clear elm]

There's also diamond with same requirements as 343 flat but just the cms replaced with cam and CDM

[chilly hearth]

Doesnt change the fact that 343 box midfield is not used for years now

From Pep to Klopp and now Xavi

Pep has been using box midfield since Bayern days

[pale nymph]

Great

Looks good

Although I have to be higher on the ranking

Jk

[chilly hearth]

I wanted to set Rijkaard as cb, but his primary position was cdm who could play cb so thats why I used arrow to show his role

[minor fiber]

We would’ve accepted Rijkaard at cb

[minor fiber]

You’ll need to chat with @visual wing for that

[chilly hearth]

I see coz you accepted Enrique and Zagallo as wide midfields, Zidane as cm, Ferguson as cam and well Rijk as cb

[brisk rampart]

@minor fiber its hard to find defenders lmao

[lusty shadow]

@brisk rampart Handanivic won a trophy with inter

[brisk rampart]

Done

[lusty shadow]

👍

[clear elm]

@brisk rampart wait isn't it current so non-retired players only?

[brisk rampart]

Didnt see that

[clear elm]

@minor fiber does 2nd tier count as well?
Does Internatiol counts?

[chilly hearth]

They are trophies too

[clear elm]

But it's 2nd tier...

[brisk rampart]

Any trophy matter

(Not Tiger Cup)

[pure flicker]

Didn't kane win some kinda Audi cup? 💀

[pure flicker]

Need a CB and RB ;-;

Did Danny rose play CB?

RB *

If all else fails just pick a Tottenham CB 😭

Damn ledley king has a league cup

[brisk rampart]

Rose played CB I think

RB not sure

Nvm

He only played LB and LM

[pure flicker]

Did Leighton baines only play lb?

Idek if mine works 💀

Nvm current players only 😭

I'm not even gonna bother

[chilly hearth]

Not official trophy

[summer prairie]

Audi Cup gives Germany vibes, Audi should sponsor the DFB Pokal

[chilly hearth]

@lapis kite only active players

[lapis kite]

Olympics and youth trophies like U21's doesn't count right?@chilly hearth

[chilly hearth]

Ask @minor fiber

Youth trophies shouldn't count

Olympics on the other hands

They usually count in trophy counts

@blazing comet kulu won trophies

[blazing comet]

I know

[lapis kite]

Young players don't win trophies

Other option than spurs

[visual wing]

Hey @minor fiber I have a question:
1.Do U23 players count?
2.If so, what's more important: their prime, current form/ability, or potential?

[chilly hearth]

There are so many good options that are not spurs

[chilly hearth]

Whats overall more important. Current form or overall career form?

Its not same if 25yo didnt win trophy and if 35yo didnt win trophy

[clear elm]

Can free agents be used? @minor fiber

[chilly hearth]

@pure flicker bowen won conference league?

[pure flicker]

Fk

;-;

[pure flicker]

Leon bailey works?

[chilly hearth]

Just check if he won any trophy?

[chilly hearth]

Mbeumo is winger lol

Not midfielder

@clear elm son and nico never played wide midfielder roles? They are wingers, not r/l mids

[minor fiber]

Nope

[minor fiber]

They do, I think all 3 are equal tbh

[minor fiber]

Yes

I kinda wanna participate

[chilly hearth]

What matters more, current status or overall career?

[minor fiber]

Career

[chilly hearth]

So young players are useless

[minor fiber]

Yeah, it can be put like that

[chilly hearth]

@silver notch that post was joke

Lol

[silver notch]

😂

[minor fiber]

@blazing comet Change ur lineup, James Maddison has an FA Cup. Bentancur won the Serie A

@wary grail current only di natale reitred nearly 10 years ago. Also remove bernd schnieder

@brisk rampart @pure flicker change Danny Rose to somebody else, he's retired

[wary grail]

I will do it tommorow

Yikes

[brisk rampart]

@minor fiber changed

[pure flicker]

Hmmm branthwaite or leny yoro? 🗿😭

Yoro a baller

[brisk rampart]

Eric Dier

[autumn cipher]

1X TORNEIO INTERNACIONAL ALGARVE U17 > Kane

Is that a trophy?

[clear elm]

Son's base position was LM in fifa 22 and Nico william's base was rm since fifa 23

[autumn cipher]

Kobel don’t count, also got a trophy

Schlotterbeck also got a trophy

Oohh U21 don’t count lmao

[clear elm]

You almost gave me a heartattack 💀

[minor fiber]

[clear elm]

@lapis kite you are playing son as CF but is he a CF tho?

Like isn't he ST

You could just alter him and Kane ig

[minor fiber]

I assume the cfs are more wingers

[clear elm]

Meaning?

[minor fiber]

The cfs function like a rw and lw

Why he isn't saying that tho idk

[clear elm]

Wait lemme check

His formation is a 4321

[minor fiber]

Watkins played on the wing before moving to St

[clear elm]

Usually the 2 are CAMs

[clear elm]

Yah

He could easily change it to 433

[chilly hearth]

They are wingers irl

In games they never play wide mids neither

[blazing comet]

I know

It's not a serious pick

[chilly hearth]

Danny Rose is free agent which means he is not retired yet

He is jobless

[minor fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-john-cena-ru-sure-about-dat-gif-14258954

[minor fiber]

You were saying?

[chilly hearth]

Go to transfermarkt

[chilly hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/henry-cavill-wikipedia-gif-27020374

[minor fiber]

Yes

Bro he got timed out💀

@chilly hearth u were saying?

[chilly hearth]

Transfermarkt>wikipedia

[minor fiber]

Nah

Not this time

[chilly hearth]

On wikipedia I could say spurs have recent trophy

Which is lie

Like that rose is retired

But anyway

[minor fiber]

@potent briar what do we do?

Ykw fine

Danny Rose counts as a free agent

[chilly hearth]

@minor fiber do positions from transfermarkt count or from clueless fifa game?

[minor fiber]

Funny.

[brisk rampart]

Smh

[minor fiber]

Oh and don't forget to change Socrates as well

[autumn cipher]

@minor fiber youngest player in my team is 28 years

[brisk rampart]

Mine is 26(Estupinan) I think

I could have gone for Yamal and Miley

Nvm

Gatti is 25

Thought he was older

[chilly hearth]

Khedira is retired?

[autumn cipher]

Nope

Its the one by Union Berlin

[chilly hearth]

Ah Rani Khedira

He is cdm tho

[autumn cipher]

Cdm/cm it’s different

How Union play

[visual wing]

do supercups like community shield or club world cup count?

[clear elm]

They are trophies too

[visual wing]

Ok

[visual wing]

what about 2nd division?

[brisk rampart]

Nah also counts

Only friendly cups dont count

Not sure if amateur cup counts

[clear elm]

Probably not cus major trophies are by definition obtained only in professional tournaments

[minor fiber]

Me and SOFFI don't even read the benches

We only look at starting elevens

[autumn cipher]

I mean his photos he added

[minor fiber]

I know what you mean

[hidden tundra]

was close to submitting this team💀

[minor fiber]

And FC team? 😭😭

[chilly hearth]

2nd tier league also counts?

And 3rd?

[minor fiber]

As a trophy?

[chilly hearth]

Yes

[minor fiber]

Yeah I reckon

Not a play-off kinda trophy

[chilly hearth]

English League One(3rd tier)?

[minor fiber]

Yes

[chilly hearth]

[minor fiber]

It does tho

[chilly hearth]

I know

I just found few players that won 2nd or 3rd tier league trophy like decade ago

But no use of them

[autumn cipher]

The only player that won something is Füllkrug by me. But that’s for most goals in a season

[minor fiber]

Individual accolades won't count

[autumn cipher]

Iknow

Imagine 10 people with no trophy or anything 🙃

[minor fiber]

True

[autumn cipher]

Take me 3 hours to search😂

[chilly hearth]

I have player with youth trophy

[autumn cipher]

Oohh

[chilly hearth]

But that doesnt count

Hehe

[chilly hearth]

How many under 30yo do you have?

[autumn cipher]

Iknow but I don’t wanna do it also

[autumn cipher]

Youngest is 28 years🙂‍↔️

[chilly hearth]

Watkins yeah

But how many are younger than 30

[autumn cipher]

I don’t have him

[autumn cipher]

4 if I’m right

[chilly hearth]

Oho

[chilly hearth]

I have only 2

Might kick out 1 tho

[autumn cipher]

Nicee

Where is your team?

[chilly hearth]

Didnt send it yet

Will tomorrow

[minor fiber]

Tbf there is 2 days left

[chilly hearth]

Enough time to make my team older. Current avg age is 31

[minor fiber]

Crazy

[autumn cipher]

You have me and Krox doing this😂 he and me are the same we try be creative

[minor fiber]

At least you got an honourable mention like you've wanted for so long 🤣

[minor fiber]

Krox's creative is a goofy formation

[autumn cipher]

Hehe

[autumn cipher]

True ahaha

[chilly hearth]

No goofy aah formation this time

[minor fiber]

Thank the lord for that

Our eyes can stay intact this time

[autumn cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/tactics-pep-guardiola-guardiola-tactics-soccer-tactics-crazy-tactics-gif-26763250

Krox be like

[minor fiber]

Fr

[chilly hearth]

@silent glade cucurela won trophy with Barca

[silent glade]

What trophy

[chilly hearth]

Spanish cup

[silent glade]

What spanish cup

[chilly hearth]

People forget that he is from La Masia

[chilly hearth]

Cdr?

[summer prairie]

expired La Masia product

[silent glade]

Same thing could be said with colwill

[summer prairie]

that's the Spanish Cup so yeah I guess

[silent glade]

He won florida cup

So thats a trophy

Same thing with audi cup

[chilly hearth]

Thats friendly trophy

Cdr is official trophy

[silent glade]

Copa del rey he didnt win it

Nothing

[chilly hearth]

What are you using lol

Go look at transfermarkt

He won cdr

17/18 season

[silent glade]

He played one match and won cdr

[chilly hearth]

He did win it tho

[silent glade]

Did he celebrate

[chilly hearth]

Cant expect him to start over prime Alba

[summer prairie]

CDR is the Spanish Cup, Copa de Laliga used to be a thing but was abolished in 1986

Copa de la Laliga was like the League Cup in England

[summer prairie]

bro got it in Romanian

[chilly hearth]

He did play

[pure flicker]

Changed brainthwaite to Giorgio Scalvini

[visual wing]

do any of these count?

[minor fiber]

Second tier yes

[visual wing]

[autumn cipher]

Bro stole tah from me

[autumn cipher]

How? Its a trophy

[visual wing]

Nah man I'm German most obvious shout ever😂

[autumn cipher]

Ich liebe es

[visual wing]

better than de Ligt this season ich schwöre digga

[brisk rampart]

I cant understand the language but I understand what they are talking abt

[pure flicker]

Stole tah from me

[chilly hearth]

If Son counts as LM, he counts as RW too? He has way more games as RW than LM

[visual wing]

for me he is lw in 3241, but transfermarkt doesnt have 3241 yet🥲

[chilly hearth]

They aren't Pep

[visual wing]

they got some goofy ah libero sh1t though🤣

[brisk rampart]

Auswählen🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[hidden tundra]

how is this a 4-4-2💀

[brisk rampart]

4-4-2 Diamond+1 Libero playing at the DM place

[chilly hearth]

One guy has him as actual lm

[hidden tundra]

btw do you still do sm saves?

[hidden tundra]

last ive seen was the 11-7 against arsenal

[chilly hearth]

Not right now

[chilly hearth]

@minor fiber idea for next week voting:
Favorite underrated sm24 XI

[minor fiber]

Ok

[pure flicker]

Played for rival clubs...
Everton/Liverpool
Man u to Liverpool/city
Inter/AC Milan
Real/barca

[minor fiber]

This is a good one

[chilly hearth]

Whole XI made our of Adebayor, Sterling ans Balotelli

[visual wing]

best XI of chelsea rejects🤣

[hidden tundra]

best XI out of uncapped players?

[minor fiber]

Who remembers this spelling master class

@lusty shadow

[minor fiber]

That’s good as well

[visual wing]

best xi of short kings?

[minor fiber]

Oooh

[brisk rampart]

Same in his commentate

[minor fiber]

[chilly hearth]

11 Kantes

[hidden tundra]

best xi that played with the GOAT (Harry Maguire)?

[minor fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/heiitse-cfc-chelsea-fc-ngolo-kante-shades-on-gif-15511956

[brisk rampart]

Cant even spell Iroegbunam or Buonanotte

[visual wing]

worst eleven paid over 100k a week?🤑

[brisk rampart]

Chelsea XI

[hidden tundra]

best XI in relegation places rn?🤮

[chilly hearth]

Chelsea XI

[visual wing]

Best captains XI?

[hidden tundra]

Best England overseas players of all time XI?

[chilly hearth]

Puyol XI

[visual wing]

Best XI w/ one player per decade?

[brisk rampart]

Union Berlin XI

[hidden tundra]

World best XI in 2034?

[visual wing]

Best XI signed for under 5 mil?

[hidden tundra]

best XI with bad weak foot?

[chilly hearth]

Thats hard to predict

Maybe 2029 is better

Coz 2034 will have bunch of great youngsters who now have like 10 years

And atleast 1 of them will be best in the world in some position

[visual wing]

best free agents XI?

[hidden tundra]

best on loan XI?

[visual wing]

best la masia XI oat?

[brisk rampart]

Could be a good one

[hidden tundra]

Best XI to retire early:(

[visual wing]

Best active XI with 0 games this season?

[hidden tundra]

Best XI of 2nd division footballers?

[minor fiber]

I've been trying since Week 1

[visual wing]

Best XI outside top 5 leagues?

[hidden tundra]

Best XI that cost less than Anthony combined💀 ?

[visual wing]

Ancelotti all time combined XI?

[minor fiber]

Oooo

Another farm of ideas

[hidden tundra]

Best XI that got 3rd place in world cup?

[visual wing]

ok thats enough

[minor fiber]

A world cup winner XI

[hidden tundra]

too obvious i think

[minor fiber]

Hmm

Should I think more obscure

[minor fiber]

Maybe an Asian and Oceania XI

I'd participate in that for sure

Being Indian and Australian

[visual wing]

nice

[minor fiber]

@visual wing @hidden tundra you 2 have given me months worth of themes

Thanks to u both for this

[minor fiber]

Make sure you make this a weekly thing

[visual wing]

no problem💪🏻

[brisk rampart]

Yes

[pure flicker]

Antony

At left back and rw

[minor fiber]

@potent briar

[potent briar]

I appreciate the commitment, the table layout looks amazing, this was acc an idea we had back when we started this event 6 weeks ago
However, due to logistical factors (sort of) it wouldn't be possible to keep track of everyone's points particularly if we kept obtaining new players

[autumn cipher]

How I lose

[minor fiber]

Soffi is typing 👀👀

[autumn cipher]

Where

[minor fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/693414084770529372/1206180101591535626

[autumn cipher]

I see but I don’t understand it😂

[minor fiber]

Ur an honourable mention for everyone except doucoure, dier and tah

[pure flicker]

Am.onana is class

I'd take him at united 🙈

[minor fiber]

You do need him to be fair

[pure flicker]

Mainoo onana bruno

W midfield

[minor fiber]

But he could be the next Fellaini

[pure flicker]

Ye 😭

Nah I think he would be decent tbh

[minor fiber]

But he could be Fellaini

[pure flicker]

Reason I selected him tbh xD ^

[minor fiber]

I kinda hope he does

Nice little deja vu

[minor fiber]

XD

[pure flicker]

For every fellaini there's a Rooney 🥲😂

[minor fiber]

True

[pure flicker]

United need a backup cf...an extra winger....a new CDM...CB and a backup lb 💀

[minor fiber]

A lot of things

[pure flicker]

Yeah

[minor fiber]

We need a backup striker, a right back

[pure flicker]

And offloading a bunch of ppl

[pure flicker]

To help cover these

All the manager changes don't help cuz they all each want there own players

Liverpool stuck by klopp and took him 3/4 years till had a successful team

The next coach might not even want half the squad Liverpool has rn 🤷

[minor fiber]

But the players don’t respect Ten Hag

Players respect Klopp

[minor fiber]

All time or current?

[pure flicker]

All time

Luis figo comes to mind 😅

[minor fiber]

R9

[pure flicker]

He didn't directly join tho

Unless we count those

[minor fiber]

I think we do

It does count

[pure flicker]

Inter to real to ac

[minor fiber]

Peter Crouch as well

[autumn cipher]

Hmm tbh don’t need the honourtable on this one

[pure flicker]

I was thinking more ac to inter
United to city

[autumn cipher]

Im not agree with it

[minor fiber]

Why?

[autumn cipher]

I have 0 players that have 0 trophies. Not even U17 other trophies

Others have more with U17 trophy

[minor fiber]

Senior trophies are what matters

Soo

[autumn cipher]

But than don’t make it, never won a trophy

Never won means never

Well it’s okay

[pure flicker]

Would cantona/ Rio Ferdinand count 👀

[minor fiber]

For Leeds to United?

[pure flicker]

At the time there was big Leeds man u rivalry

Not so much now tho

[minor fiber]

Hmm

I think for the time, yes we can count it

[visual wing]

Guys, updated table for this week: requirements in post above) happy to have taken top spot for now:)

[chilly hearth]

Btw @clear elm Watkins has been striker for last 5 seasons. He doesnt even have half a season as winger*

[brisk rampart]

Im Harry Kane

[minor fiber]

Maybe 2 or 3

[minor fiber]

He can play on the wing he was on bith sides for Brentford before he went to Villa

[chilly hearth]

And he was bad

There is reason why he has been striker for most of his career

He has almost 3 times more games as striker than lw and rw games combined

[clear elm]

I mean nipun said he could play rw so he played rw ig

[minor fiber]

Thats true I did

[chilly hearth]

Years ago. If he played today, he would do bad

I watched him play this season

Thats like placing Saka lb coz he played there few years ago

[hidden tundra]

Bro played less RW in the premier league than James Milner💀

[chilly hearth]

Coz he only played rw in 2nd tier

[pure flicker]

Antony > Saka ..Antony can play lb

[lusty shadow]

This getting locked?

[minor fiber]

I'll do it in a hour and a half

[brisk rampart]

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