Hanger debate

[forest pilot]

Who would win: maxed out mk3 hanger but ONLY tier 1 robots and weapons, or a tier 4 hanger with lastest meta bots and weapons but only level 1. (No drones, no pilots, and no modules)

[wispy folio]

Is grass green ahh question 🥀

[bright seal]

I want to see a video of this! Duplicate bots or no?

Turret of Samjok could cause some havoc.

[forest pilot]

(No duplicates, no mother ships or titans either)

[prime beacon]

CSGs would kill all t1 robots

[forest pilot]

Csg?

[prime beacon]

Crumble shotguns
Mogwan family

[forest pilot]

Oooh

I feel like the stalker could do some damage tho

Because it’s technically a T1

And stealth can bypass the samjok turret

[prime beacon]

CSGs' bullets spread so stealth would not save him

[forest pilot]

Garith shield?

(Or however you spell it)

[prime beacon]

I believe CSGs have energy bullets so they bypass physical shields

[forest pilot]

No you’re thinking of energy shields

Not physical

[prime beacon]

Oh yeahhh

[forest pilot]

I think the tier 1’s could win ngl

[prime beacon]

Then they will probably just deal enough damage to break it easily

[forest pilot]

hmm

What robot would it be facing?

Because they also have maxed out t1 weapons but a mk3 punisher could kill it before it deals much damage

[prime beacon]

Mk1 gangil only needs 10 shots(press the red button 10 times) to break mk3 gareth's shield

[forest pilot]

Is that from wiki stats?

[prime beacon]

Yes

[forest pilot]

Right, which robot would be the tier 4?

I assume it would be a samjok

[prime beacon]

It can be ravager, lio, dux

[forest pilot]

If it’s a ravager, garith would win

[prime beacon]

Raptor, although im not sure if it is still meta

[forest pilot]

I think it would struggle against a samjok though

[prime beacon]

Survive against 5 mogwans? Nah

[forest pilot]

1. Block the mogwans with shield while firing with mk3 punishers

Ravager lvl 1 would die before it delt much dmg

[prime beacon]

If only one gangil needs 10 shots, 5 mogwan are likely to hitkill I guess

[prime beacon]

Its shield only have 101k HP

🥀

[forest pilot]

That’s quite alot tho

And how much does a mk3 punisher deal?

[prime beacon]

https://warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Punisher
9k300 per second

[forest pilot]

Okay so 9.3k per sec

And lvl 1 ravager hp?

[prime beacon]

140k

https://warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Ravager

[forest pilot]

Okay so that’s one punisher, garith also has a medium so a mk3 punisher T aswell

Punisher T does around 2x regular punisher, so you’re dealing nearly 30k dmg a second with both weapons

That’s not alot of time for the ravager to not only break the shield but also kill the robot itself

[prime beacon]

5 mogwans deal 178k damage per second
Gareth has 202k HP
Ravager only needs to press the red button 2 times to kill it

Punisher T deals 15k per second
Punisher 9.3k
24.300 total

Ravager has 140k HP, so it takes gareth 6 shots to kill ravager

[forest pilot]

Garith also has range and speed advantage

[prime beacon]

Actually, mogwan deals 14.800 per shot
So 5 deal 74.800
Ravager needs 4 shots to kill it

Punisher deals 597 per shot
Punisher T deals 959
Gareth needs 90 shots to kill ravager

I was considering damage per second, not per time you press the red button

[forest pilot]

Aphid pattern:

Or gekos

[molten zephyr]

Obviously meta wins

[molten zephyr]

These shotguns can bypass physical shields

Even walls

[outer knoll]

Obviously a meta lvl 1 hangar

[upper bluff]

yeah

the firerate and firepower of the csg is strong

too strong

and gareths the only shield user

excluding ecu

[upbeat pendant]

Lio 3 mogwans

that alone would prob solo

nuo with regulator and prisma

samjok CSG

dux 3 mogs

hell samjok with NO weapons would prob solo

turret be that op

[quaint sandal]

tier 4

the power difference is absolutely crazy

level 1 kirins are already lethal

[forest pilot]

I think the tier 1’s stand a chance…

Like a patton with geckos could melt them

Or aphid jessie

[quaint sandal]

not at all, the abilities of tier 4s simply are way too strong

though those setups would be annoying, the newest meta is on a whole different level

that's why they're so broken compared to the rest of the leagues

and they feel perfectly normal in champions

take ravager, infinite stealth

doesn't change with levelling

samjok (for now) is phase shifted for a long time, and can reenter it easily

kirins are lethal at level 1 still

lio has damage reduction

sword unit just shreds everything

[prime beacon]

In fact I faced a mk3 gekko natasha using QR
I was using a lvl 1 ravager GAS
It made me go mad 😭

[quaint sandal]

dang

qr counters well

[prime beacon]

It was on springfield map, no cover to use
I died to a gekko natasha

Just because I couldnt do anything

[quaint sandal]

there is cover on springfield, no?

actually, not really

i can see your point

[prime beacon]

I was in open field