Weapon advice

[dusk wind]

How good are the weapons subduer decay and kramola

[hard carbon]

nerfed, nerfed, and nerfed lol

decay and kramola for dps, subduer for surpressive fire

[dusk wind]

i also have hels which of the 3 should i use on a curie?

[frank spruce]

smuta > decay > subduer

[frank spruce]

if you got redeemer, pucnher, hammer, nucleon, glacier

they all work

[dusk wind]

what about the hels?

[candid vine]

imo...the subduers and decays is effective for sustained damage, gradually weakening enemy defenses over time, making it great against tanky robots. the kramola delivers high burst damage at medium to long range, excelling against lighter, less armored targets. both are solid weapons, with the subduer and decay focusing on wear down tactics and the kramola on quick, powerful strikes....

[frank spruce]

smuta>decay>subduer>hel

hels are inferior

they should be t3

[stiff pawn]

Also nerfed

[frank spruce]

recent buff did basically nothing

[stiff pawn]

They interval time for decay makes it no longer good , Subduer isn’t the best and kramola is nerfed but is still ok

[stiff pawn]

Yea

[frank spruce]

rads are only good on bagliore and dagon now

dagon gets countered by uc

so only bagliore

[stiff pawn]

On siren with the smuta it is still good

[acoustic dust]

I have not seen subduer gameplay since the rebalance but ngl they do not look that good anymore. Smuta is good if you use harpy or siren, otherwise I wouldn’t recommend them. Decay got a big nerf but its damage is still impressive, I would prefer redeemers if you could but they’re not bad for a midrange option. Don’t expect too much up close

[slim basin]

Smuta kramola are just bad in higher leagues, ppl can easily out heal of most of the times
In that list decay is the best choice IMO, I've ran decay bagliore and decay curie after nerf and its still not Dead, it still works

Subduer, after nerf i have not ran it
But its in the same category as decay, both have almost the same Dps

[candid vine]

i actually agree on this one, smuta>decay...but hel might hold a liiiil bit of more advantage than subduers, ...as we know hel has more burst and ammo which will sustain the damage burst, the subduers are pretty much nerfed bad + the ammo is not that much at all....

[slim basin]

Smuta>decay is an insane take

[frank spruce]

smuta has high dps until its ammo runs out

my logic is that if you're gonna sniper with smuta

ur gonna be hiding too

so that's where recharge happens

[frank spruce]

subduers have rust effect, which i consider more useful than having a hel

but if you're doing full set of subduers vs hel

hel is better

subduer is a assist weapon

usually you don't give up a heavy slot anyways so it's ranked low

[slim basin]

21185 is the DPS of smuta without reload
21545 is the DPS of decay without Reload

Decay still wins

Like before
I would still rate rads over smuta

[candid vine]

that’s a solid one indeed..the rust effect from subduers can really cripple enemy robots by reducing their durability and healing, making it a more strategic option for weakening opponents over time. it’s a unique and highly effective debuff compared to a pure damage dealer like hel, especially in team play.

[frank spruce]

reducing dmg output???

bro you mean healing

how did you get active contributor lol

[candid vine]

yeah my bad, i meant durability and healing 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼

[frank spruce]

durability, not so much anymore after the nerf

i surprisingly played games recently, got hit by subduers and still managed to heal pretty ok

so i'm actually thinking

if subduers are worth it at all

or the dampers and tamers