#Reconsider the radiation gun nerf

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languid eagle
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The only viable 600m range weapons in champions league and it's being nerfed, don't get me wrong they're very good weapons with high damage output ofcourse but they most definitely do not over power the enemy.

Nobody uses pulsar because it's not that powerful as it just barely does enough damage and has a status effect that allows it ot be considered tier 4, infact magnetar were basically on par with pulsars which is why nobody sees a point in using the medium variant. its important to mention you're also nerfing magnetar which conveniently would replace blights when you're using a dagon.

If we don't have radiation guns or magnetar/pulsars then what do we have? Wasp and hornet? Those weapons are also invalid for champion league gameplay due to their absurdly long reload. Their damage may be okay but they're most certainly not an option in their current state.

The balance changes take away the only decent free to play mid range options, nobody is going to use hel/skadi despite these buffs because quite frankly they're still probably not viable in champions league. We are literally left with ultimate shocktrains, ultimate ion and ultimate hussar which by the way aren't accessible unless you play the game like it's a 9-5 or you pay for them.

tepid raven
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actually altho i don't like the nerf the problem was that they were competing with meta

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like a blight dagon can kill raptors

fast fractal
languid eagle
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It did good damage but wasn't outright killing raptors

regal robin
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they shouldn't have halved the firing rate

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decreasing the dmg would have been fine

languid eagle
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They know how to nerf things that's why they don't just decrease damage only anymore

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Since you can just use all the damage boost methods in the world to get back on your feet with the damage

regal robin
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halving the firing rate is a bit hit tho.. i would maybe take a quarter off the firerate not half

fallen escarp
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sorry, but they don't care about the essay you just wrote.

tepid raven
regal robin
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No it deals less dps

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Firing rate is basically what decides dps

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But you only have to change your play style a bit so that you fire, and take cover then fire the second burst and so on

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their dmg will still be great considering hazards and decay are even getting a dmg buff

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11 percent per plasma iirc

tepid raven
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not even that great

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ik it deals less dps

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half fire rate(1/4 damage nerf since reload stayed the same) but 11% damage

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its way worse

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finally atomizers can be good

regal robin
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no atomisers are horrible

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it's 11 percent per plasma pretty significant dmg buff

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if the play style changes, it can easily be usable

tepid raven
regal robin
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That damage is for one single plasma

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and that’s getting 11 percent increased

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what do you think that means

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42066 is the damage per clip (for the SE blight) and 11 percent would be pretty big, it would make it nearly 47k

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also bad example, blights aren't getting dmg buffed

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imagine that's a hazard or decay lmao

tepid raven
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atomizer has higher cycle dps, and im pretty sure even with 11% buff hazard and decay dps is getting lowered

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so atomizer will have significantly higher dps

regal robin
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is that the dps of atomisers are 12k (about)

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12012k

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that's if all bullets land

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and quarkers have a dps of 10678 (so 10k)

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that's if all bullets land lmao

tepid raven
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im not saying theyre definitely vetter, but at least now the damage is significabtly better

tepid raven
regal robin
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hazards have a dps of 20k?

regal robin
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if you're fighting point blank at uhh idk lets say 50m,

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sure atomisers won't miss much maybe a few bullets here and there

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imagine engaging at distances around 400-500 which the range of the weapon is at max

tepid raven
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I have to admit that atomizers are extremely hard to aim tho

regal robin
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no like don't get me wrong

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quarkers and atomisers are good. weapons

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I like them as well tbh

tepid raven
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but the dps is still around the same i think if you factor in 3 seconds to cool down

regal robin
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but atomisers are bad because of how quarkers deal nearly the same dmg as atomisers

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quarker at mk2 deals 1601 per bullet, atomisers 1801

tepid raven
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That doesnt necesarily make them bad

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that could mean quarkers are op

regal robin
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💀 and are they?

tepid raven
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Eh

regal robin
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i mean quarkers*

tepid raven
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theyre as good as blights imo

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i mean i also like atomizers because theyre less popular, but anyways they are better in certain situations, and worse in others

regal robin
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right now blights have higher burst dmg, and about the same sustained damage (given all shots for quarkers hit), so probably after nerf, blights will be worse in terms of burst dmg, and also damage because they're not getting a dmg buff

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uhh and for hazards, it has both higher burst and but lower sustained iirc? compared to atomisers given all bullets hit

regal robin