Uh I don't really see anything new? Is the new stuff supposed to be unobtainable..? They're not in data pads or black market..
#New Update
smoky iris
faint silo
After the 4 days they will be available
dense solstice
Isn't it still the Curie event? The stuff is in game but not available
faint silo
Also means 4 days left for the cruel warm winter event to end
You can check near the button for the data pads on how many days pr hours left
dense solstice
Pixonic basically updates the game ahead of time for event but new stuff always comes the moment the previous event ends
faint silo
They change contents of the data pads mostly after thd countdown
The*
Sorry typo again
dense solstice
Dang it, got a feeling Ochocochi is coming to datapads very soon if they're shifting bots with each event
dense solstice
Lynx been in there for months so feels quite possible actually
dense solstice
I mean a saw a thread that harpoons are already in 1k chests
faint silo
Then i guess probably we will se more ochos
See*
Another typo sorry again
Anyway we can check the robot store to look at the new robot
Shenlou
Also Weapon Store to look at the new weapons
Also Drone Store
dense solstice
Kinda hope so, more even battlefield since no other bot tends to be so hard to counter(Haven't seen a Dagon or Curie spawn raid)
faint silo
Yup
smoky iris
I see
I don't get why they updated if they're gonna be added 4 days later tho lol
smoky iris
I see
dense solstice
So you can spend cash the day the event starts instead of waiting for a download, lol
faint silo
They update earlier to prob apply the nerfs and buffs
dense solstice
But most games do pre-load their updates
faint silo
Cuz my dampers are abit innefective they are not mk2 or mk3 btw
dense solstice
They update earlier to prob apply the nerfs and buffs
They specifically said they haven't rolled out balance changes in the update
faint silo
Oh ok
smoky iris
They specifically said they haven't rolled out balance changes in the update
thats so weird
they basically didnt do anything with this "update"
dense solstice
Probably going to be a week or two before we see changes
smoky iris
whew
faint silo
Its just so when the actual update comes we dont have to download resources anymore prob
Not too mich resources
Much*
Sorry typo
dense solstice
This update is content so the weapons, pilot, drone, bot and most likely new pve and skirmish modes
smoky iris
Its just so when the actual update comes we dont have to download resources anym...
huh 😭 we'd download same thing
it just makes things rlly confusing cuz they said they updated but really nothing happened
dense solstice
I mean 2 events ago we had the boss pve, this one we had that 1 shot kill FFA skirmish so probably safe to say there's a game mode in that update
faint silo
Check the robots store they added the shenlou
Also weapons store and drones store
The one shot kill was arena btw
dense solstice
True but arena was basically a once off thing so far
smoky iris
ive heard new robot gonna be op but im debating if i should be trying to get it cuz its prob gonna be nerfed later
smoky iris
Anyway ima check more posts have a nice day dudes
u too
dense solstice
It's not OP at all, it's basically a coin toss each time you drop in...extremely inconsistent
Either you die with 6 kills to the 1 bot or you die with 0... it's not scorp 2.0(Scorp alot more consistent) nor on the levels of Dagon/Curie and definitely not Ocho...it's a fun bot but do not expect it to carry your team
dense solstice
Difference is that Aegis is alot easier to counter than stealth...especially if it's 50k-75k and then you're stuck there for 4s...where as scrop gets stealth pilot and only takes 2s to recall vs Shenlou that uses all its charges then recalls
Even weapons are hilarious when on paper they're just worse Sonics unless there's 2 enemy's in 100m range standing infront of you to use its multi target effect(Same as pentagruel titan weapon)
dense solstice
damn pixonic finally releases a meh new robot
I mean its meh because we already got pretty good weapons and bot for the same role
Heck, what I'm scared of is people pairing the ultimate shotguns with the drone and Shenlou or Scorp as the lockdown from the shotguns ticks the box for the drones extra lockdown duration and extra damage vs lockeddown targets
smoky iris
Heck, what I'm scared of is people pairing the ultimate shotguns with the drone ...
Oh so the only op thing coming next update is the drone
dense solstice
If you like lockdown yeah
smoky iris
Not sure if it would be better than the meta drones
dense solstice
I mean your best bet, is look for someone that done a 9.7 test server livestream, since generally livestreams can't have cherry picked matches
smoky iris
Hm gonna have to wait and see how things go for update
dense solstice
Of course test server hasn't got the pilots...other side note, unless I missed it, Shenlou doesn't get defense points but Scorp does
smoky iris
Scorp sounds better
dense solstice
Basically trading survivability for mobility
dense solstice
The Shenlou doesn't get defense points or invis but it has that tripple teleport and it's cooldown is like 12s vs scorpions 18 or so
smoky iris
O
dense solstice
But again it has 4s between each teleport which is more than enough to loose shields and die where as scorp can teleport back within 2 seconds
smoky iris
Maybe you can add phase shift
dense solstice
True, but let's say you goof on your first tp, phasehift only lasts so long and you're basically taking 12s to get back where you started
smoky iris
I see
north dew
Shenlou will become top1 most annoying bot more than scorpion 
smoky iris
Not when it can die easily
dense solstice
All in all, it's a good bot and it'll dominate when it gets it's opening to do its thing but it's also extremely easy to shutdown so every move it takes is a dice roll on either dominating or being obliterated
It will be annoying for sure since you have to turn around to attack it if it jumps you
smoky iris
Gonna require a lot of skill then
north dew
It will be a tactical one xD
dense solstice
Exactly skill and bear in mind you need 3 different enemies to be in perfect position to get an ability off to its potential
smoky iris
I feel like there’s too many abilities than can counter like ravana invisibility jumps
dense solstice
Or you could tp 3 times to the same target, lol
north dew
That Ue ming will be kinda expensive for what it can offer i believe.. unless they will make it as fenrir and give it in milestones tasks..
smoky iris
Or you could tp 3 times to the same target, lol
Ravena would be invisible
north dew
Only good thing at ue ming is that firepower of x4 alpha.. but it can die to a full charged crisis
dense solstice
Honestly so far, it's the ultimate pilot and weapons that are carrying the bot
north dew
Shenlou is awesome but why they make most of new robots to skinny?
dense solstice
Wouldn't call Ochocochi skinny
north dew
Ocho is that gym guy xD but others
dense solstice
Remeber, Shenlou is technically the same role as a Lynx and probably best played as a reaper itself
dense solstice
Some maps you can literally go into a small path between buildings to dodge sirius
smoky iris
Lmao
north dew
Remeber, Shenlou is technically the same role as a Lynx and probably best played...
3 more days and 19 hours left.. then 1 week or 2 weeks after new update there will be 1 Shenlou every match with Leiming and Shifang that weapons they said
Another annoying robot
dense solstice
Weapons aren't exactly game breaking though...annoying yes but bot overall is a slightly down tuned scorp with a buff to cooldown
north dew
I agree, at least is balanced
smoky iris
Weapons aren't exactly game breaking though...annoying yes but bot overall is a ...
Wonder if they could replace how good havocs r
smoky iris
I agree, at least is balanced
Yea
fair gulch
dense solstice
It'll be annoying because people will pick it when they haven't touched scorp in months since it's new, yet it's not exactly any better than scorp...trades a light for a heavy though
smoky iris
I want to see a lynx offer so bad but I gotta be in higher league ig
north dew
Ue ming i believe will be good only with tonans as a sniper.. from close range it going down fast.. even crisis reaper is a threat but Shenlou it will be a very good balanced bot and tactical
north dew
It'll be annoying because people will pick it when they haven't touched scorp in...
Oh yeah.. devastator and 2 havocs instead of 2 havoc and 1 scatter
dense solstice
What I take away from shenlou, is its got a less tell-tale sign for its ability(no invis before jump) but if you catch it behind you, you've got enough time to kill it before it gets to move on
dense solstice
Oh yeah.. devastator and 2 havocs instead of 2 havoc and 1 scatter
Actually build the UE weapons over from ultimate Fenrir and watch chaos unfold as the drone amps up those weapons damage even more
north dew
Yeah for who got em
I wish they could reduce time of reload on sonics weapons as devastator, havoc, scatter.. from 16 sec > 14 or 12, they are still doing pretty good but after the ammo is out.. they shoot so dmn slow
dense solstice
Definitely better than the weapons coming with...heck the new weapons are only better than Sonics, If you have the drone and even then, you can easily run something like Hiroku to amp up sonic damage so...
north dew
I already imagined how good it will be with sonics and pascal drone or kestrel 2 nuke and 1 overdrive or LS.. it should do really really good for a robot like Shenlou that teleport 3 times
But i really think that Ue ming as be an ue version of an old titan that was always soft .. should resist more than the old one like 1mil+ hp and little more dp
orchid meadow
I see
I don't get why they updated if they're gonna be added 4 days later tho lo...
Updates have to be approved by the different OS app stores. Sometimes there can be delays in the updates being approved. They need a couple days lead time for availability of updates. Otherwise they end up with issues where one platform has an advantage to complete tasks, because an update hasn’t been released for another platform. It happens more often to the OS’s that are used less: Steam; Amazon; used to have Facebook. Usually Android is available first. But there have been times iOS was available first. Sometimes there has been a gap of several days
smoky iris
Updates have to be approved by the different OS app stores. Sometimes there can ...
damn i see
makes sense
dense solstice
Headroom for "in case of..."
smoky iris
Wait did they add counters to rust effects in new update with transcendence ability
dense solstice
Yes they did
Transcendence now removes rust
Specifically they said Ravanna so doubt Indra has that perk
hollow forge
i have see 700 m for the tp shelou now is 350m
dense solstice
Yeah
Think it was 700->380->350
If it wasn't for it having a heavy instead of a light, I'd immediately call it a nerfed scorpion, atleast where it counts
Have to ask, how does the base durability compare to scorp? Since it seems to be losing the race on all but cooldown and that 1 weapon slot
smoky iris
Specifically they said Ravanna so doubt Indra has that perk
i saw a part of this vid where indra was used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEGuzxb0fg
seems like indra can coutner too
dense solstice
i saw a part of this vid where indra was used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ...
Good to know...now we just need that choke effect too, lol
Not sure I'd call Indra meta though since a Rook that knows what it's doing can basically take down a Indra without it doing damage(Killed a maxed Indra with a Level 65 rook with level 10 weapons)
smoky iris
Not sure I'd call Indra meta though since a Rook that knows what it's doing can ...
sheesh
the only thing holdinig me back from rook is its not nerf proof so investing in it might not be good idea for long run
dense solstice
Whole thing is abusing the downside of Vespana...it removes all debuffs but if your ability makes you vulnerable for a few seconds to get a buff and ironically takes as long as the Indra ability, guess what happens...
Each time he phased to dodge my clip, I held my shots and popped my shields off so even if I was on reload, my shields were permanently at 100% because I'd just replace them each time he went into phase
dense solstice
Oh, did I mention that in the Indra fight he maxed out his amps? Bugger went from 1 shot all the way up to like 40% hp, down to 1 shot and then back up to like 25% and finally dead
Which is saying something because all my amps were and still are t1 level 1(The default stuff)
smoky iris
im never thinking abt buying an indra now
dense solstice
It's good vs everything but rook, lol
dense solstice
Way too easy to abuse its phaseshift making it invulnerable and unable to attack, to make yourself vulnerable to heal up
smoky iris
which other titan can counter indra phaseshift cuz i cant think of anything else
dense solstice
Granted he had Vajra, maybe Sonics would have broken through but in a brawl, if you take away phaseshift, what has Indra got really...less hp, no real defense, don't think it gets suppression...
dense solstice
which other titan can counter indra phaseshift cuz i cant think of anything else
I can't think of anything but Rook, for what its worth counters Sharanga Phase exile because again you can use that immunity you just got to replace your shields
smoky iris
Granted he had Vajra, maybe Sonics would have broken through but in a brawl, if ...
the phaseshift is only gonna help against a newton
dense solstice
True, also helps as a gap closer
Nevermind that it can keep Ophions off your back
smoky iris
i feel like rook might be better than newton since newton would have hard time against an indra
dense solstice
Rook is actually... just its heavily weighted towards top end. IE low level is trash but high level still dominates
Hell I've seen rooks take multiple fulgor/tonan shots to the face and just proceed to hug a Newton to death...granted i didn't check what level they were
smoky iris
i wonder if a max amplified luch could take down a newton too
dense solstice
Issue is 3 Rooks are 3 times more dangerous, but 3 Newtons are quite literally 9 times deadlier
smoky iris
true
dense solstice
Basically Newton gets exponentially better with each Newton on the field since with all 6, you could basically lock half a team in place
smoky iris
lmao if i see a team full of newtons im just gonna go afk till match ends
dense solstice
Same with Ocho...ever had the displeasure of facing a 5 man squad with mk3 Ocho hangars?
1 solo is manageable but each extra 1 just gets insanely more complicated to counter
dense solstice
Actually is, rare for them to all drop as first bot in, often people will swap to Ophion or something else and then drop Ocho when that dies
smoky iris
ophion is rlly annoying with that shield
dense solstice
Meaning you'll see 2 vs 2 Ochocochi duels and when clock hits 1 minute, you'll see the losing team drop their ochos to try and carry
smoky iris
true
dense solstice
Had that in my favour once, 3 ochos running into 2 Newtons TDM...Sadly 1 Newton had 1 last bot to stop their team from meching out
smoky iris
i dont often survive till end of match cuz of my weak hangar 
smoky iris
Had that in my favour once, 3 ochos running into 2 Newtons TDM...Sadly 1 Newton ...
damn
dense solstice
Yeah, things get insane at times
smoky iris
i just dealt with a diamond 3 player with 5 hangars and one they were using had half of it ultimate robots with newton, ocho, and ophion all mk3
and im in gold!!!!
dense solstice
A buttload of deals lately.. had crisis for 3 days now and each day the weapons change, all mk2
smoky iris
wait i got the ss
smoky iris
A buttload of deals lately.. had crisis for 3 days now and each day the weapons ...
damn i wish i had offers like that
dense solstice
Issue is those deals are based off level.. so if you're level 30 silver, nothing stops you from buying your way to ultimate fenrir or buying a Rook with its pilot right out the box
smoky iris
mine are bad prob cuz im in gold leagu
north dew
Woah this post still ongoing
smoky iris
i get rook with pilot offer but theyre expensive
likw $20
compared to offer without pilot its way more epxensive
but idk how it is for level 30's
dense solstice
Because the pilot buffs are pretty significant for rook
Doubles the AoE damage when it lands, takes 2s off the time to replace its shields(Vulnerable for 4s instead of 6)...and I forgot what else, lol
smoky iris
well maybe if they came with steller weapons i woulve thought its good deal but they came with frozen weapons
dense solstice
But that 2s less time for the shields is massive as it heals the same but faster and enters cooldown faster too
smoky iris
prob cheaper buying pilot seperatel
smoky iris
But that 2s less time for the shields is massive as it heals the same but faster...
true but not worth more than double price
dense solstice
True
smoky iris
pilot adds $12 more or sum
dense solstice
Especially with how trash the rockets are in long battles
Don't get me wrong, it'll work 1 v1 but issue is when a 3rd party arrives and you have that mammoth reload to wait out
smoky iris
they take significantly longer than steller weapons, i saw a clip of it taking ~90 seconds to get a luch down while steller only took ~47 seconds
dense solstice
Veyron?
smoky iris
yea
dense solstice
Sonics are pretty good, Vajra similarly
dense solstice
Heck, I bought the non SE luch with Vajra so I could put it onto the Rook that I won back then(Glad I didn't invest too much into Luch considering the DoT changes)
smoky iris
😛 wdym dot changes
dense solstice
Irony is that Veyron sucks on Sirius because it can't really brawl yet its the recommended weapons
dense solstice
😛 wdym dot changes
Simple, DoT cap removal..
smoky iris
Irony is that Veyron sucks on Sirius because it can't really brawl yet its the r...
im not sure if any weapon can make it compete against meta titans
dense solstice
Remove the 30 cap for DoT, half the damage but allow bots to have 4-6 of them and what you get is 200-300% damage which for what its worth is already shy of a maxed out crisis reaper clip
And yes I'm talking about applying 400k damage over 15s, every 5s
Means your tradionalist Luch, if you can keep it at 90 rust stacks, dies in 25-35s, regardless of its reflector
And thats 1 non titan vs titan
smoky iris
wow so luch is bad from the new update
dense solstice
Basically any titan without physical defense or a way to purge debuffs will have a hard time
smoky iris
💀 thats crazy, i was planning on buying a luch when i got the chance
dense solstice
Let's take Dagon... 1 stack of DoT from a Mk3 Trickster is like 240 damage, I'f you put 5 tricksters, thats 150 stacks per clip...and then factor in that its 240 per second
dense solstice
As in that 150 stacks each do 240 damage every second, so you can multiply that by 15 for its duration and bear in mind it reloads in 5s so you could push 450 stacks and edging on 600
smoky iris
thats game breaking
dense solstice
Exactly, that's why 50% nerf to DoT but not sure it'd pan out
Nerfing the damage and removing cap is a bit crazy, IMHO they should just cap it at 90 stacks and call it a day
smoky iris
the only titan able to counter that is indra with phase shift i guess
smoky iris
well i mean countering the effect if its applied since phase shift cancels but yea if u have a working physical shield then ul be good as long as its on
dense solstice
Yeah, now imagine the non titans
smoky iris
no chance, u better have a ravana in ur hangar now
dense solstice
You just step out of cover and get blasted by 400k damage...again Crisis does that at 1100 range but it's limited to 12s reload
dense solstice
And ontop of that, Crisis itself is easy to take down, Behemoth is also relatively easy to take down...now think of a hard to kill bot with 4 medium slots...
smoky iris
yikes
dense solstice
Since 6 lights = 4 mediums
smoky iris
wonder if a normal phase shift remove rust and dot
dense solstice
Means all of a sudden Traditionalist fafnir will take down an Ocho in 5 seconds, same for Ghost typhon
Probably why they didn't push the changes to live, or I hope so
smoky iris
if they do then ig ill just go with rook instead of luch
dense solstice
Currently their issue is that DoT weapons have garbage base damage and a full clip, which unloads in 1.5s is enough to max out the DoT cap...so more than 1 is a waste so they want to encourage using multiple and since stack cap is the #1 reason it's seen as trash....
Instead of just raising the cap, they outright consider removing it...
smoky iris
didnt know pixonic is smart
dense solstice
Currently Deciever does 360 a stack...so losing 9k hp a second off that single weapon stacks up when you realize it's 100k hp just gone
Or let me swap to calculator to see what it actually is currently without using rounding to make it look weaker than reality
162k hp gone every 15s...
With the proposed update, it means things like Typhon will pack 243k damage into each clip if we assume 4th weapon is rust...
smoky iris
wow so a deceiver typhon build could take down luchas in like 30 secs
💀
i hope they dont add that to main game
dense solstice
Well it was on test port, but people were playing with Shenloun and UE Ao Ming so don't think it got covered but in passing mentions, yeah it'll destroy soo many bots and titand
Titans*
smoky iris
dense solstice
And suffice to say, Dagon packs slightly more damage per clip since it's 5/6 not 3/4
smoky iris
yea no cap weapon on dagon goes crazy
dense solstice
Crazier is how hard it is for titans to take down a Dagon
smoky iris
dagon is gonan be the ultimate titan after update
dense solstice
Think the discordia and tonans are probably main contenders to have the dps to actually pose a threat
Nah, Crisis will become a must have since it 1 clips a Dagon, lol
dense solstice
That and shieldbreaker Ophion will rule over Dagon
Uhm, Crisis reaper when it's maxed out it does 480k damage every 12s and only physical shields can stop it...or titans with maxed out stacks on repair amp
Basically it clips an Ao Ming out the air from anywhere on the map as long as it's a clear line
smoky iris
sheesh, how manu weapons does crises hold for that much firepower?
dense solstice
4 heavy
dense solstice
4 heavy, permanent stealth unless it does something except move and it's ability gives it shieldbreak and like 25% extra damage at mk3
smoky iris
im assuming it only holds 2 and theres an ability that only then allows it to have 4 temporarily?
dense solstice
Reapers itself bypasses defense points and reflector shields
Permanent 4 heavy slots
smoky iris
what the hell
dense solstice
It's hp is low though, think it gets up to 240k when maxed, hell my level 10 crisis barely has 130k hp
smoky iris
makes sense
dense solstice
Of course it's the Ophion hard counter, in most cases it'll rip a Ophion apart before the ophion kills it in 1 v 1
smoky iris
yea thats a lot of fire power
dense solstice
Basically any flying bot suffers to a crisis, except eiffel that'll take like 30k damage a clip in the air
Naturally need QR for Imugi and Au Jun but after that, they're done for
Oh did I mention Crisis pilot buffs the damage buff of its ability?
dense solstice
Suffice to say, it clips out Lynx as long as it can see it, and it'll clip out a Skyros if it doesn't use the Thesues pilot
smoky iris
whew
dense solstice
Heck it'll clip out a fenrir, only ultimate fenrir is safe from Crisis reaper
smoky iris
is crisis in workshop or is it only in data pads in black market
dense solstice
Data pads but it should go to blackmarket in a month or two
smoky iris
Heck it'll clip out a fenrir, only ultimate fenrir is safe from Crisis reaper
🗿 too dangerous
dense solstice
Think on the list of bots it can clip out, is Minos as the reflector can't do a thing vs reapers because of the fact they bypass it
Obviously same goes for harpy, which is why I said anything that flies suffers to a Crisis Reaper
dense solstice
And yes it means Luchador takes full damage aswell regardless of either of its abilities though due to 12s reload, the repair amp will stack and start to counter
Currently I've seen a crisis every day for the past 3 days on the limited offers with different weapons each day, but none with reapers
smoky iris
And yes it means Luchador takes full damage aswell regardless of either of its a...
which weapons is that for crisis
dense solstice
And by limited I mean the offers that disappear the moment you close them
Reaper...Basically heavy Sniper rifle
dense solstice
To be exact, reaper is a 6 shot heavy weapon with 1100 range. 12s reload that bypasses defenses and reflector shields
smoky iris
Reaper...Basically heavy Sniper rifle
thought hwange would be better
dense solstice
Nope, the squishy factor
Crisis pops vis the moment you fire or activate its ability, heck activating mothership makes crisis go vis...
Crisis weapons ideally unload their clip in under 2s so it can go back into stealth as fast as possible which is exactly what Reaper does
dense solstice
Basically has a cooldown timer that runs the moment you do anything that isn't movement, when that cooldown is done, it's back to stealth
So if you stand 5s firing a laser, it'll only start after you're done firing the laser so you might stay visible for 7-9 seconds
smoky iris
what about decay
dense solstice
Naturally quantum radar is its counter but don't assume a QR lynx with close range weapons will have it easy as it takes just 1 second to kill
smoky iris
lmao
dense solstice
Decay works but then you're closer to the enemy...again 1100m range covers an entire map
smoky iris
i see
dense solstice
Like high leagues occasionally have 4 * Subduer Crisis
It doesn't eat reflectors or defense points but it packs even more damage to things that don't have it and 600m range is still fair distance...as long as you kill your target before it kills you since they'll most likely have same range
And yeah that build blocks all healing except rook and Curie/Eiffel
smoky iris
That’s a really smart build, no one usually can hit that far
You’d be most annoying person killing everyone then going invis too fast
Butttt what if enemy can see through ur invisibility
dense solstice
That's basically reaper crisis, always need to consider its there as it can kill your bot before you get to react
Well crisis has no defense so if anything sees it, it can threaten the crisis as stealth is its defense
carmine abyss
I see
I don't get why they updated if they're gonna be added 4 days later tho lo...
its also good that way they can see if there are any bugs or issues instead of players getting mad that the new robot/weopon they just rolled didnt appear in their inv
smoky iris
its also good that way they can see if there are any bugs or issues instead of p...
hope they fix the no cap on dot
carmine abyss
fr
late sparrow
When can I expect update on steam