#New Titan Concept: Amaterasu

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gilded dragon
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I want to have a support titan in the game that's not underpowered, but also more affordable. It should be better than nodens and sirius but a little worse than heimdall to reflect the difference in cost. It's also been awhile since a Japanese-themed bot has been added to the game. I named this robot after the Japanese sun goddess. It should make more sense when you read the abilities.

Basic information
Corporation: EvoLife
Tier: III
Intended role: Mid-range Support
Base/Max HP: 450,000/654,000
Base/Max Speed: 40/54
Base/Max Defense: 50/150
Weapon slots: 2 Alpha
Module slots: 2 Defense + 2 Universal

Appearance
Elegant and sleek, somewhat feminine. Tall, slightly shorter than Ao Ming. White and yellow/gold. Flower pattern that's folded when the primary ability is inactive, but unfolds and glows when active. The two alpha weapons are mounted on either side, about 2/3rds the way up the hull. (Pictures at the bottom)

Abilities
Primary Ability: Brilliance
Duration: 7 Seconds
Cooldown: 20 Seconds
Amaterasu immediately applies a blind effect for 5 seconds against any enemy whose weapons were locked onto it at the time of activation.
Amaterasu activates a superior reflector shield that blocks 50% of all incoming damage (Including: DOT, BLAST effect, and mothership strikes). It cannot be ignored by defense bypass/mitigation weapons (Reaper, Gauss, Titan weapons) and ignores effects that deal additional damage to titans (Tonans, fulgur, hawk, seraph).

Secondary Ability: Rally
Duration: Instant Effect
Cooldown: 14 Seconds
Amaterasu summons an Aegis shield (150,000 hp) and grants a +40 defense and +20% speed boost to itself and all allies within a 100m radius.

Recommended equipment: 2x Dazzler

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Let me know if this is too overpowered, or not strong enough. Thanks!

indigo bane
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Nice...

brave matrix
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seems balanced

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just need to buff the heal from the 2nd ability

gilded dragon
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most bots have between 200,000-600,000 hp, so should i change it to a fixed % instead?

brave matrix
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Yes

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100k If one time is low

gilded dragon
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33%?

brave matrix
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Yea something like that

gilded dragon
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changed

wet kestrel
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Its abilities seem pretty damn overpowered

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Being able to slap 33% durability back to yourself is amazing

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If that works with titan repair amps than this thing is immortal

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Being practically invulerable for 1/3 of the time is crazy (Blind makes it so that you basically cant damage it) and on top of that the 50% damage mitigation is also insane

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This thing could very well become a brawler rather than a support

wet kestrel
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And this thing easily outclasses heimdall

brave matrix
wet kestrel
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My luchador with like 1.7mil hp

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Will regenerate 500k

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Thats insane

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And every 20 seconds?

brave matrix
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my rook with 1.2mil will regenerate

wet kestrel
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I literally could not die

brave matrix
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but to balance it the 33%

wet kestrel
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And 20% damage and 20% speed buff?

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Thats also a crapload

brave matrix
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could be the 33% of the titan(the amaterasu)

wet kestrel
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40 defense points is also a fair bit

brave matrix
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not the others

wet kestrel
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Around 100k

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100-200k

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Still a fair bit

brave matrix
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yea but if not can just add up more cooldown, but its a t3 titan btw

wet kestrel
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Nah this is way too strong for a t3

brave matrix
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somehow yes

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but look at the 1st hability

wet kestrel
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1st ability is also amazing

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It makes it invincible basically

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You cannot shoot it

brave matrix
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not invencible reapers can kill it

wet kestrel
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It cant

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How does a reaper kill it

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If you cant aim at it?

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And it even said that on the random chance a crisis shoots blindly at it, it negates 50% of the damage

brave matrix
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if the crisis or other robot with reapers dont are in the hability

wet kestrel
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There is no range limit set currently

brave matrix
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5 seconds

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just need to wait

wet kestrel
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So realistically you have to wait at least ten, even fifteen if you're unlucky

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And the cd is only 20 seconds too

brave matrix
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10 seconds, with 15 seconds with the imunnity

wet kestrel
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Yes

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20 second cd

brave matrix
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the problem is its a t3

wet kestrel
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And it negates 50% damage

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Not bypassable by reapers

brave matrix
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how a titan could be a t3

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with these abilitys

wet kestrel
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'annot be ignored by defense bypass/mitigation weapons such as Reaper, Gauss, or Titan weapons.'

wet kestrel
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it needs to be t4 at least

brave matrix
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just buff the health nerf the 2nd ability to 25% and the 1st put a reflector + defense sistem that cant be bypassed by gauss + titan weapons (reaper can bypass)

wet kestrel
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With currently stats, this titan could definately be a brawler

brave matrix
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and buff the cd in like 5 seconds

wet kestrel
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Thatll make it balanced

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Ngl I can see pixo releasing this titan as it is

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Because they like op stuff

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Makes them more money

brave matrix
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putting 4 alpha

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new titan weapons

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it needs new titan weapons dazzler + the 1st ability is infinity blind

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@gilded dragon hey, put like + 150k health into the base/max hp, buff the speed by 5 into base/max the 1st ability put a reflector that ignores 75% + 100 defence points (cannot be bypassed by gauss + titan weapons but reaper can bypass it) 2nd ability put 10 seconds duration 15 cooldown, 25% fixed hp (the hp healed by the allies is 25% of the titan health that max hp titan have) buff the range of heal to 150m and put the titan into t4( if u want)

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i think this will balance more

gilded dragon
# brave matrix i think this will balance more

Wouldn’t that make this on par with rook? I intentionally made the base stats bad to balance out the powerful abilities, with this adjustments it would have more base HP than newton and almost the same base speed as Minos, all while having the reflector of Luchador

wet kestrel
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True

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I think it just needs an ability nerf

brave matrix
brave matrix
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it needs to try to fight these new powerful titan + titans weapons

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because it is a t3 it will probabily lose to like 90% to the t4 titans (sharanga, nodens, minos and someothers are t4 now) principally newton, rook, luchador, even sirius i think

rough orbit
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Love the idea. Very creative tho one question I have is what do you mean by locked on. Is it like every enemy lock on to amaterasu blinded or the enemy amaterasu is locked on to blinded?

gilded dragon
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So if you lock on with Zeus or Scourge or auto lock with something like Avenger onto the titan and it activated ability you get blinded

rough orbit
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Oh OK got it

rough orbit
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Just showed this to a friend of mine and they gave this robot idea a 9/10.

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Good job 👍

gilded dragon
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thanks!

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if i have time i might do some concept art for this

sour girder
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"Amaterasu immediately restores a fixed 33% HP to itself and all allies within a 100m radius."
is that mean only healable hp or include grey hp if 33% of grey hp it gonna be crazy op
if it only heal normal hp then 33% part is useless since everyone can self heal now

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i will suggest that it should fit new robot theme (teleport hp/shield to counter those rust)

gilded dragon
gilded dragon
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@here Alright guys, I've taken your feedback and made some changes. From what you guys said, here were some issues with the design:
-Base stats too weak
-Primary ability too overpowered
-Secondary ability healing is underpowered
-Still dies to fulgur/tonans setups

Here are the changes I made:
+Max HP increased from 524,000 -> 654,000 (+130,000)
+Max speed increased from 47 -> 54 (+7)
+Reduced primary ability reflector duration from 10 -> 7 seconds (-3)
+Primary ability reflector shield now negates weapons that deal additional damage to titans. So seraph, hawk, and importantly, tonans/fulgur only do the damage they do against regular bots. (Seraph = 50% damage, Hawk = 50% damage, Fafnir = 100% damage, tonans/fulgur = 100% damage instead of 400%)
+Changed secondary ability healing to aegis shield, like paladin (33% HP-> 150,000 Aegis shield)
+Made the secondary ability effect an instant boost rather than buffing in radius. So all allies in 100m radius will now get +40 defense and +20 speed for 10 seconds, even if they leave the 100m radius afterwards. The boost is also applied to the titan itself.
+Removed 20% attack boost on secondary ability

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These should make it much harder for the meta bots to kill Amaterasu in its primary ability, especially ophion, electric newton, and crisis

balmy axle
gilded dragon
gilded dragon
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@sour girder any changes not good?

sour girder
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Amaterasu immediately applies a blind effect for 5 seconds and also Amaterasu activates a superior reflector shield that blocks 50% of all
while you fight enemy they got blind and you got reflector shield at the same time basically make first 5 sec of shield useless
shield will only be useful in few case such as when enemy have brain and predict that they gonna blind and untarget you before you blind them
most of time they will got blind and you will have reflector for nothing

gilded dragon
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Well there’s also blind firing which works better against titans

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There’s also AoE effects like Kid stove Ochokochi stampede and rook Tornado

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Also enemy snipers probably won’t have you locked all the time

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What I could do is say it only blinds enemies within 500m radius. Then the reflector would serve a purpose to block damage further away

keen plaza
round dagger
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604k max hp is insanely low. Ocho drops into game with that

gilded dragon
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The aegis shield stacks

round dagger
gilded dragon
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During the first 30 seconds there’s no fighting you can get 300,000 shields up

gilded dragon
round dagger
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Also doesn't change the fact that unless you're running a certain MS, it dies in 2 seconds (with Paladin it dies in 3)

round dagger
gilded dragon
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I just don’t think it makes too much sense from a design standpoint to have a support titan have high HP

round dagger
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Bruh. The titan has less hp than some normal bots

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Support makes most sense to have high HP

gilded dragon
round dagger
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No, I'm saying it's fine. But your argument being "Aegis stacks so it won't die fast" is very flimsy

gilded dragon
gilded dragon
round dagger
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It still dies to most normal weapons though, Stampede is never Ocho's primary source of damage

gilded dragon
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But is there any titans setup rn that can actually resist Ochokochi?

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It seems like there isn’t a titan that can effectively fight Ochokochi, it is more of a design problem of the bot than the titan

round dagger
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Lucha, Newton, and Rook all deal with Ocho very well

gilded dragon
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No newton with Fulgur is horrible vs a Ochokochi

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Not even 2 or 3 can do enough damage

round dagger
gilded dragon
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The damage will be too low

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Lol

round dagger
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I can say from personal experience running a maxed Ocho, 1 Newton can certainly kill Ocho easily

gilded dragon
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And we’re talking about 3 titan cs 1 bot

round dagger
gilded dragon
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Well depends on the range

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But from what I’ve seen if Ochokochi closeted the distance it’s game over

round dagger
gilded dragon
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Overall I think it would be difficult to make this titan better at fighting the goat without changing its flavor or making it too powerful for tier 3

round dagger
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Tier 3 or not, it's just too squishy imo. Perhaps 900k max

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But 600k is insanely low. Like I said, you have less HP than a good chunk of bots can drop with

gilded dragon
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900k????

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Isn’t that as much as Luchador or newton

round dagger
gilded dragon
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No without modules and stuff the base HP

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My initial design I used Aether’s stats

round dagger
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Certainly less than them. I think Lucha has like 1.2m base or something like that

balmy axle
round dagger
balmy axle
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Thx

round dagger
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Any time

wet kestrel
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At base with nothing else added

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So 900k base with nothing added would indeed have more health than a luchador

gilded dragon
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I think 654,000 right now is fair

pulsar jackal
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ok

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so i just finished reading this

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it is a really good idea

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but

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instead of changing it, the secondary ability wich heal bots could heal 33% of bots and not titans. instead it would only heal 10% of a titan

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also if u kept it the way it is with ur change for the secondary ability for the +20% speed boost, if an ochokochi was nearby the 100 meters and had maxed out speed boosts it could probaly go 500 km/h

gilded dragon
gilded dragon
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especially titan repair anps

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i kind of like the aegis shield idea more because the color also fits the titan better, flavor wise makes more sense

pulsar jackal
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i dont 😦 i am f2p