ripe parrot
Nuclear a weapon for alpha type titan.
Range 1100 meters. splash area 275 meters.
Damage at level 1 (19,000). Damage at maximum level (40,000).
DoT damage at level 1 (4,000 for 5 seconds) DoT damage at maximum level (9,900 for 5 seconds).
Furthermore, this weapon cannot be fired if the target is 250 meters away
. Note yes. The weapon has a mushroom cloud explosion effect.
Idea for special edition: Retro nuclear
¿Good or not?
hollow verge
Is it an Alpha or beta weapon
ripe parrot
Is it an Alpha or beta weapon
Alpha
hollow verge
what's the reload
ripe parrot
19 seconds
hollow verge
So if you have a Sharanga and you use it's ability and 3 of these you can spawnkill every base
you have 210,000 initial damage and 270,000 overtime damage
without the 50% boost
480,000 damage
ripe parrot
So if you have a Sharanga and you use it's ability and 3 of these you can spawnk...
For that it has 19 seconds of recharge or does it need more recharge time?
ripe parrot
So if you have a Sharanga and you use it's ability and 3 of these you can spawnk...
Although yes. A sharanga uses it, yes it could be broken but everything that is equipped to a sharanga is op. The most logical thing would be to make this weapon a glass cannon but no one would like that.
hollow verge
All I'm going to tell you is to make it exactly as you want it to be.
ripe parrot
All I'm going to tell you is to make it exactly as you want it to be.
Then. I could do something like Retribution when you fire the weapon you receive 5% damage. (so if someone is too clever wanting to have 50000% in just increased damage effects, they will receive 5% of all that damage)
hollow verge
There's no sugarcoating this but that's the dumbest solution possible
who would buy a weapon that damages them
that would be 24k damage to yourself per shot
did you know that when you die your bullets disspear
so if you have under 24k health you can push a button to die and nothing will happen to anyone else
why don't you just nerf the damage and splash range of the weapon
ripe parrot
The thing is that a weapon like this is difficult to balance, tell me how would you balance a weapon that if you lower a lot of damage it is no longer useful and if you leave it a specific damage someone could increase it I have several examples (Gauss/reaper/prism/ares retribution/Linx execution /spear/sonic weapons/shotguns in general/ETC)
It's a good idea but imagine a weapon called (The largest explosive in existence) but it explodes less than a firework.
hollow verge
alright
for one
since the selling point is nuclear then you were good about the damage over time and rust effect for effects that would be used
but the range is far too big for anything to escape it before all the dot takes place
ripe parrot
I think you misunderstood. I say that the damage that the weapon has, 5% of that damage will be returned to you. I wasn't referring to the damage caused, I said something like (if you fire the weapon you will receive a reward of 5% of the damage of the weapon. Not the damage caused to the targets, that would be a glass cannon in reverse)
hollow verge
your weapons needs to be balanced, yes? So it needs to be better and worse than other weapons
remove that feature
there should be no effect like that on a weapon
it just does damage
ripe parrot
I want to balance my weapons but not too much just look what they did to the shocktrain for wanting to balance that weapon is useless
hollow verge
well the first thing to figure out is exactly where you want your weapon to sit
every single robot and weapon in the game is perfectly balanced
so where is this weapon's perfect balance
ripe parrot
hollow verge
once you have an exact idea of how good this weapon should be, you need to make sure that the stats will average that location
in this case if you want your weapon to be generally fair but also a longrange nuke then you need to get rid of extremes
so, list all the stats that can change
ripe parrot
once you have an exact idea of how good this weapon should be, you need to make ...
That's the problem. If I tell you that I want to create a gauss for titans. There is no way to balance it without rendering it useless (like the shocktrail)
hollow verge
range
damage
dot effect and rust effect
reload
bullets per mag
Splash range
hollow verge
That's the problem. If I tell you that I want to create a gauss for titans. Ther...
There is always a way to balance everything
because we can change every single feature and stat about every detail of the weapon
ripe parrot
There is always a way to balance everything
Sonic weapons have been in the game for a long time but giving them a balance would kill them no matter how broken they are in melee.
hollow verge
why would it kill them
ripe parrot
Furthermore, this nuclear weapon that I suggest will literally not outweigh a maha vajra or tonans i fulgur in damage.
hollow verge
Sonic weapons have been in the game for a long time but giving them a balance wo...
why would it kill them
ripe parrot
why would it kill them
Well, sonic weapons have exaggerated damage but they are only melee and here comes the problem: a fast robot and a weapon with massive damage does not sound good at all.
Those weapons have no balance point, I'm trying to tell you.
hollow verge
so what would change them
ripe parrot
so what would change them
reduce their gray damage by half at least so before they kill you you could react to the weapon
hollow verge
Those weapons have no balance point, I'm trying to tell you.
If we have the ability to change every single stat, then what would need to change for them to be balanced
and the effect of cutting the grey damage in half would lower the weapon's potential, yes?
ripe parrot
If we have the ability to change every single stat, then what would need to chan...
Yes we can change statistics but when something is created with a very specific reason, using it for something else is impossible like using grenades to cut grass for example.
hollow verge
So, say for some reason, we wanted to keep the weapon just as good as it was before. What would we do if we had nerfed the grey damage?
What if we gave it 600m range?
do you see the point?
ripe parrot
So, say for some reason, we wanted to keep the weapon just as good as it was bef...
In that case it would be fine because having a weapon that can kill everything in one hit and avoiding healing is somewhat unbalanced to the point where it can only be nerfed to the point of uselessness (Shocktrain/yeoje/Talon)
hollow verge
In that case it would be fine because having a weapon that can kill everything i...
do you get the example?
I gave you 2 steps to balance your weapon so far
ripe parrot
What if we gave it 600m range?
It would be worse if we took away half of the gray damage (not normal damage) to give it all that range it would still have a lot of damage and now a lot of range
hollow verge
this 600m sonic weapon is an example of step 2
ripe parrot
The only way to balance the nuclear weapon would be to then give it a 30 second reload but that would be very exaggerated.
hollow verge
in the first step, we wanted to figure out how good we wanted the weapon to be
hollow verge
The only way to balance the nuclear weapon would be to then give it a 30 second ...
no it's not
hollow verge
range
damage
dot effect and rust effect
reload
bullets per mag
Splash range
Look at how many stats we can change
ripe parrot
I already understood, in that case I see new ways to change the weapon I designed then I edit the concept publication
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ripe parrot
Look at how many stats we can change
https://discord.com/channels/692379063716937790/1158466719518572624 How about the changes?
hollow verge
I'm not going to be online for much longer as I'm about to do something
It's up to you to do the hard math
ripe parrot
I thought about it, and that's fine. Maybe this weapon concept is not as broken, like the Maha Vajra, or the Argon, or also Tonans and the Cinder and future weapons that will leave my concept as a toy. but the way I show the concept is fine
While I can do the hard math. because?. Yes, much better weapons will come out in the future.
brave vortex
every single robot and weapon in the game is perfectly balanced
are they all perfectly balanced though...
?