T2 bots

[vestal lintel]

Butch pilot: it is possible to use the 4 weapons at the same time but the robot loses its mobility. ( or just make coldowm reduce to 0 )
Kumiho pilot: gains 2 additional dash.
Lancelot pilot: lancelot has it ability unavailable but gains 100 dp.
Hover pilot: gains 5 more liters of fuel and 10% hp but loses 5% speed.
Raijin pilot: raijin gains 20% more durability but it shield is reduced by 10%
Fujin pilot : fujin gains more speed in sentry mode
Cargane pilot : carnage gains a 15% damage boost during it ability
Rhino Pilot : rhino gains 70 dp in assault mode but his shield is reduced by 10%
Leo pilot : loses 10% of its durability but in compensation gains 30% more speed
Natasha pilot : Natasha loses 5% speed but gains 10% more damage
Ao qin pilot : in flight mode qin gains 150 dp
Doc pilot : has its coldown removed to 0
Galahad : has a 10% speed
( All bots need 3 passive slotes )
Raijin need walk in Bastion mode.

[hollow bone]

probably rethink the hover one, being able to stay in the air longer (and not that much) exposed compared to -20% speed is not at all worth it

[trim knot]

I agree with Potato. Also think that lancelot should get exploding shields where the explosion deals 200% damage of the shields origin durability (this could maybe be a buff rather than a pilot ability)

[hollow bone]

Uh, are you sure about this one chief? These are the shield's stats, and that's without any pilot skills/fortifiers

[trim knot]

YES.

Well then we could just make it lower

Thought its shield would be weak

Maybe 25% sounds ok then

Maybe even lower

But basically exploding shields.

[fiery cypress]

The Hover can literally fly forever

[vestal lintel]

no

[fiery cypress]

yeah

[vestal lintel]

20 fuel don't will make it fly forever

[fiery cypress]

it does

[hollow bone]

not really, it ends up losing all the fuel

[fiery cypress]

already

You need to spam it

I personally have flown for 10 minutes straight

look it up on youtube

[hollow bone]

even with spam, you end up losing height because it will lose it all

[fiery cypress]

not if you practice

[hollow bone]

also basic math

[fiery cypress]

If you spam the ability then it doesn't use the fuel

tap really fast

[vestal lintel]

@haughty raptor can i ping some pixonic staff?

[hollow bone]

that would make it an exploit then, not a feature

[fiery cypress]

If it's an exploit its not one worth patching

why make an old useless robot more useless

that's like patching super dashing for striders

[hollow bone]

we shouldn't have to do anything since you cannot glide forever in a hover.

[fiery cypress]

look it up

[vestal lintel]

well i just give pilot ideas

maybe pixonic can help us

[fiery cypress]

more damage based on time in air is the usual idea people have

it does take skill to stay in the air

[hollow bone]

definitely an exploit/cheat software, should not be doable. you notice the fuel reserve not doing as it should

[fiery cypress]

not a software

tap fast

it's a bug or glitch at the very most

more like how the robot works

[vestal lintel]

wait guys i will make some pilots for t2 bots

give me few minutes

[trim knot]

Make one for ao qin

[hollow bone]

it is indeed a bug (if not already patched), the glide's fuel reserve should not go up like that

[fiery cypress]

it's not patched

I can do it right now

since it came out

[haughty raptor]

No, if you don't see them talking in the chat or it is not a decent time then please don't ping them

Also, Ksiro looks at the #1037352718743896124 channels a lot so don't worry, at some point he will see

[haughty raptor]

I'm very sure that they already have many ideas, that's not a problem

Time and resources are a problem

[fiery cypress]

Yeah; that's why a lot of ideas everyone has never exist, even some of theirs. It takes lots of time to make something function so they need to spent their time wisely

[vestal lintel]

Butch pilot: it is possible to use the 4 weapons at the same time but the robot loses its mobility. ( coldowm reduce to 0 )
Kumiho pilot: gains 2 additional dash but loses 10% of its durability
Lancelot pilot: lancelot has it ability unavailable but gains 150 dp.
Hover pilot: gains 5 more liters of fuel but loses 20% speed.
Raijin pilot: raijin gains 20% more durability but it shield is reduced by 15%
Fujin pilot : fujin gains more speed in sentry mode
Cargane pilot : carnage gains a 15% damage boost during it ability
Rhino Pilot : rhino gains 70 dp in assault mode but his shield is reduced by 10%
Leo pilot : loses 20% of its durability but in compensation gains 30% more speed
Natasha pilot : Natasha loses 5% speed but gains 10% more damage
Ao qin pilot : in flight mode qin gains 150 dp
Doc pilot : has its coldown removed to 0
Galahad : has a 10% speed boost but loses 10% hp
( All bots need 3 passive slotes )

[fiery cypress]

Could you remove the negative effects

there's no need for them

Especially since the better Pilots are getting thing like 35% damage boost and 20% less cooldown for Ares

or Ability Refreshes on kill for Angler

And the Hover Pilot doesn't work because the Hover doesn't have a set flying speed

It's based on uncontrolled flight

meaning that if you tap differently you get different results

Or better yet like a Raven's jumping; there's no speed on that because you jump many different ways

[vestal lintel]

this will be pixonic's choice... i'm already giving negative effects because i know if it's just boosts pixonic won't accept it.

[fiery cypress]

sure they will

and what kind of a world would it be if they accepted all of these ideas that made old stuff worse?

Honestly the Doc should just have no cooldown anyway

[vestal lintel]

well that won't make them any worse.

[fiery cypress]

dont make them worse

[vestal lintel]

and they are t2 robots if it does not have a negative effect due to the ease of leveling people would choose to have a full t2 hangar.

[fiery cypress]

no they wouldn't

If all your negative effects were positive effects they still would be worse than tier 4

[vestal lintel]

if I remove the negative effects they will negate it, besides they will balance it this is just a base idea and I don't even know if they will accept it.

[fiery cypress]

who told you that

[vestal lintel]

you are free to disagree with my idea, but I have a little basis for knowing that if I only ask for a positive thing it will be denied.

[fiery cypress]

the ideas here are based on likes

if something gets many positive reactions they are more likely to consider it

[vestal lintel]

of course I don't like the t2 robots and that's why I wasted my time thinking of something that would make them better but not so superior besides that the negative effects can be canceled with 1 passive module t4.

are negative effects easy to counter.

[fiery cypress]

can you spell check that sentence

for my sake; not as an offense of some kind

[vestal lintel]

uh? " i don't like t2 robots " ( irony )

[fiery cypress]

the second thing

[vestal lintel]

kinda true

[fiery cypress]

" are negative effects easy to counter."

what do you mean by this

is it a question?

[vestal lintel]

you can't just give advantage to a robot, butch for example if it doesn't have this negative effect it will overcome the beheomth.

[fiery cypress]

no it wont

[vestal lintel]

butch have 400k hp mk3

[fiery cypress]

Behemoth has 4-5 times the health

[vestal lintel]

same firepower

[fiery cypress]

so?

just another option at the very least

and the Behemoth walks with all 4 weapons

[vestal lintel]

behemoth mk3 have 500k hp
butch mk3 have 400k hp
if butch can use the 4 weapons without losing mobility, it will be superior to the behemoth.

[fiery cypress]

um

false

[vestal lintel]

butch lvl 9 have more speed than behemoth lvl 12

bruh

[fiery cypress]

at the very most it will be the more affordable option

[vestal lintel]

behemoth mk2 lvl 4 =

[fiery cypress]

and what about Crisis

[vestal lintel]

butch lvl 1

[vestal lintel]

crisis have low hp

[fiery cypress]

so?

it has infinite stealth

[vestal lintel]

easy to kill

[fiery cypress]

and damage boosts

[vestal lintel]

quantom sensor exist

[fiery cypress]

that's just the meta

as far as firepower goes Crisis is best because of the damage boost

Butch is basically Crisis but no stealth

and no damage

[fiery cypress]

6 kph doesn't matter much when you have a Kestrel drone

[vestal lintel]

when u have max speed skills yes it have alot diference

[fiery cypress]

The point is

Negative effects for low tier robots wont work

it's bad if released

because the top Pilots are getting only positive effects

[vestal lintel]

butch losing mobility is better than moving at 46 km/h with 4 guns

[fiery cypress]

why lose mobility

there doesn't need to be a trade

[vestal lintel]

t2 robots are for use in low leagues.

[fiery cypress]

a lot of the Legendary pilots are simply buffs

[vestal lintel]

butch pilot's point is to allow the use of the 4 weapons at the same time.

[fiery cypress]

regardless of the league

at the cost of mobility?

[vestal lintel]

👍

[fiery cypress]

That's literally the Behemoth

copy and paste

Here's an idea for you - When you switch weapons you have a 4 second damage boost of 20%

[vestal lintel]

but behemoth can move

[fiery cypress]

old behemoth

when it came out it didn't move

[vestal lintel]

that's not my problem

I'm trying to make the game more diverse, it's just not worth the advantage are old robots.

[fiery cypress]

why would I use the Butch if I had it

[vestal lintel]

but for butch would have excuse for that.

[vestal lintel]

good for the low upgrade cost and having a high firepower? maybe

[fiery cypress]

bruh

You know what let's use another one of your ideas that's not so similar to another robot

[vestal lintel]

I'm giving these ideas to people who don't have much time to play and want a playable hangar in high leagues.

[fiery cypress]

these are bad ideas, plain and simple.

[vestal lintel]

similar ability will have to be similar

[fiery cypress]

I'm not going to dance around that anymore

your ideas would not be worth using if you had the pilot maxed

[vestal lintel]

tell me do you know the game decent at least????if you haven't given any ideas so far, don't criticize others.

[fiery cypress]

you do have a few good ones though

Are you new?

[vestal lintel]

I've been playing the game since 2014, so I think I have a good priority to talk about it.

[fiery cypress]

Are you new to trying to make ideas for people

ok?

your making the same arguements I made when started making ideas

[fiery cypress]

I would have said something like this

Probably did

[vestal lintel]

so make your own ideas and don't criticize others.

[fiery cypress]

I have

many, many times

[vestal lintel]

until now you only knew how to criticize instead of changing a little what I sent.

[fiery cypress]

Until now? this thread?

there's nothing to really change

when you look at people's ideas a lot you really begin to see a pattern

they become so similar

they have their own reasons for making an idea

but the idea is bad for the same reason, or a very slightly different one

[vestal lintel]

yes my own reason wants to give more diversity to the game.

[fiery cypress]

everyone says that

at least a lot of people

the end result is the idea you present

and it needs work

I should let you present your idea in peace so it can be ignored like the rest of ours so you get an idea of what I'm talking about

it's just how it works

[vestal lintel]

😭 you said hover flies forever while this is impossible.

[fiery cypress]

it does

look it up

I got mad at that actually

I literally opened war robots

and yeah it does work

it can also double jump

you can bounce like a trampoline

or activate 2 initial jumps and fly from under the lava in abyss to the top of the map in about 6-7 seconds

or if you use an initial jump and a jump module you fly forward super fast

crosses 500 meters in about 2 seconds

You will only find the flying forever part on youtube; the other stuff isn't as well known

[vestal lintel]

video when?

waiting for it

[fiery cypress]

what are you talking about

go to youtube

[vestal lintel]

it doesn't fly forever

[fiery cypress]

search up " War Robots Hover Flying forever"

their bad at it most of the time

it can

can you play war robots right now?

[vestal lintel]

😂 shell can fly forever too if u have hack

[fiery cypress]

I'll dm you my id to show you in a custom game

[vestal lintel]

dude the hover spends more amount of fuel than it gains per second, stop

[fiery cypress]

I will show you myself

[vestal lintel]

you are embarrassing yourself.

[fiery cypress]

PM6P6B

try me

and I had told you how to do it already

You spam faster than 1 fuel is wasted and it doesn't get spent

[vestal lintel]

😭 forever fly

[fiery cypress]

no

spam faster

as fast as a molot shoots

6 taps per second is good

[hollow bone]

on mobile xD, good luck zya i guess

[vestal lintel]

maps have skybox

[fiery cypress]

yeah? you can get out of maps

but what does that have to do with flight

[vestal lintel]

u can't fly forever cuz it have skybox

[fiery cypress]

yeah you can

[vestal lintel]

does it have a height limit.

[fiery cypress]

that video is horrible example

the height limit is the skybox

if you manage to get out of the map you can fly much higher

forever

but as of now there is no way out of the map

[vestal lintel]

no u can't

[fiery cypress]

To get out of the map you used to have to find a spot on dead city

but it's patched now

[vestal lintel]

u are right

[fiery cypress]

you can't fit

there you go

now practice

[vestal lintel]

@hollow bone

[hollow bone]

still should get patched though :/

[fiery cypress]

that would do no good

all it's good for is running beacons

and it's easy to kill in the air

free silver is the term

[hollow bone]

plus how do you aim if you have to spam so hard with 1 hand :/

[fiery cypress]

practice

I steer with my palm

[vestal lintel]

emulator

[fiery cypress]

or use 1 hand for fuel

I took the time out of my life to practice this for hours

I literally can fly for 10 minutes straight

Honestly the Hover should have thrusters that push it in a driection so you can actually turn in the air

I made 3 robot ideas based around that

wait no 5

[vestal lintel]

lol...

they will be fix it

i'm sure about that

[fiery cypress]

it's been there since the robot came out

it's existed since 2017

even the remastering didn't fully break it

It used to be able to also just activate the initial jump

so it would start the 7 second cooldown the moment you left the ground

when you landed you had 2 second of walking before you could jump again

but the remastering made it waste a fuel upon activating the ability, so now that doesn't work

[vestal lintel]

[fiery cypress]

there's specific frequencies to tap

and tap duration does make a difference

within 1 tap it needs to be short enough not to trigger the fuel consumption and long enough to actually push you

you can do everything right but if your taps are too fast then you fall

also it's hard to turn; try to fly in a circle after going fast

[celest carbon]

I support em, particularly ao Qin, but uhh, do keep in mind that the pilots don't have to come with a handicap, especially leo/Natasha haha

[viral storm]

That's a good idea, I support it

[fiery cypress]

It took me about 250 messages of length just for you to perfectly summarize it

[novel nest]

mierda

[fiery cypress]

and it kind of turned into a flight lesson but don't mind that

[rotund narwhal]

?

[rotund narwhal]

Sounds good

[vestal lintel]

@fallow junco

[novel nest]

Noo

[vestal lintel]

you don't have to say you don't support an idea because you hate me, you're still too childish.

[novel nest]

The pilots are fine, but Butch will turn into an old behemoth, it makes no sense

And I don't hate you, I don't like the way you treat my friends

[vestal lintel]

😂 Do you hate me because I defend myself against a 40 year old man?

[viral storm]

Bruh

[fallow junco]

interesting idea

[viral storm]

Yeah

[coarse juniper]

I support the ideas about the t2 robots, they deserve to receive this little buff, it will positively change the gameplays with these older robots, and in a very fun way :)

[vestal lintel]

❤️

[fiery cypress]

What in the hell is this argument

[fiery cypress]

This one is even worse

[vestal lintel]

ik that guy alot time ago

old friend

[fiery cypress]

still

horrible argument

[vestal lintel]

he only said that because of some past events.

[fiery cypress]

just a terrible choice of words

[vestal lintel]

ikr

[fiery cypress]

yeah, fair

Regardless you did end up as the one who looks foolish on paper

[vestal lintel]

[night shale]

Raijin could use being more mobile during ability as well

[haughty raptor]

Hi, @coarse juniper

Please change your server nickname to comply with the server #🪧│rules

[coarse juniper]

I'm sorry, I'll change it immediately ^^

[vestal lintel]

@fiery latch give me your feedback

[cursive wraith]

Butch , great idea nothing to say. Kumiho, in my opinion it doesn’t have a good amount of hp so by taking 10% off would make it weaker that it sadly already is. Lancelot, again, great idea bc it’s ability is kind of useless so if it gets taken away it won’t be a bad thing.Hover, yes for the additional fuel but it’s Maine strong point is it’s speed so reducing that could mean less Speed but I’m not sure..Raijin good idea again and theses days, physical shields aren’t very useful so it’s not a big loss.Fujin nothing to say it’s a good idea 👍 same applies for carnage.Rhino, like for raijin ps aren’t good anymore so it’s not a bad thing,Leo, yes ! We need speed on that thing ! Natasha again I agree.Ao qin, we all know it’s vulnerable in flight so ye good idea.Doc great idea.And finally Galahad in my opinion it needs a bit more hp so I’d say 10%more hp. There we go and again this is my opinion, and it could be wrong knowing that I took a brake last year for the game after player for 4 years so I could be wrong…

[quasi laurel]

Interesting support these ideas, and please add a new pilot for Leech

[vestal lintel]

😂 i can't do it

[quasi laurel]

🥲

[soft pond]

I like them!!

[vestal lintel]

❤️ tysm cutie

[soft pond]

😳

your welcome

[vestal lintel]

😂

[soft pond]

wasn't expecting cutie but ill roll with it

[fiery latch]

Amazing

@vestal lintel I found a budget crisis build on the test server-

Loki with death mark, showdown drone and volts

40% extra damage

[vestal lintel]

@fading jolt can i have your feedback?

[fading jolt]

Op

[cyan token]

Butch: looks great

Kumiho: no problem

Lancelot: as it's a brawl robot might as well as give it some extra hp

Hover: I would rather have more mobility cuz to me its other stats are fine

Raijin: probably some more damage in ability to make it more threatening

Fujin: idk if you mind some shield recharge boost, either faster or recover more

Carnage: looks good

Rhino: no problem I like this one

Leo: hmm yes good

Natasha: good as well

Ao qin: all good, finally

Doc: maybe give it some extra more speed

Galahad: more hp to the shield maybe

Ok that's my opinion

[fiery cypress]

The Rajin had 1.2 million hp on the shields if you get it right; lowering it will be sad

[jaunty flare]

lancelot would be good if the shields worked like rook's

[fiery cypress]

Every shield robot would be better if they could do that

Rook's shields shouldn't heal it even if they can replace

[mortal plover]

Excelent idea

[vestal lintel]

Thanks for ur feedback ❤️

[icy temple]

Nice

I love carnage

[trim moat]

i've actually suggested pilots for most of those bots, but they are different than yours, butch is not happening it would require a full remodel

kumiho is interesting

lancelot i actually proposed a pilot that increases damage when you enable the ability, but yours is good too

hover is useless, it can already fly endlessly, not worth the speed decrease

raijin... meh

fujin is interesting, but i would rather have a pilot that gives it an aegis

carnage, same thing, a pilot that gives it an aegis

rhino is good

leo and natasha, i bot suggested them pilots that would give them abilities actually

ao qin, my suggestion was: endless flight but loses biw, your idea makes it too similar to guang

doc not happening

galahad, i would rather give it a directional aegis instead of the physical shield, but would require a full rework lmao

[winter shore]

Trying to somehow bring old robots into the game, giving them new pilots, is an excellent idea and congratulations @vestal lintel

[vestal lintel]

❤️

[novel nest]

the butch idea is literally old behemoth and no that isnt balanced. Jumiho having that isnt going to fix its survivability. Lance should just get ghost and traditionalist(already has the former).hover/raijin both get nerfs with these pilots for almost negligable differences while still not solving their main problems. Fujins pilot does almost nothing for survivability. Carnage pilot is decent. Rhino pilot is decent. Leo pilot/natasha pilot is decent. Ao qin pilot literally just makes it ao guang so no. and galahads pilot does basically nothing for its survivability

[novel nest]

a decent amount of these pilots do nothing or slightly harm the bot.

[novel nest]

I could suggest the pilots to be thought out differently, but I really support the idea