slender estuary
Introducing my new concepts based on particle accelerators, powerful long range and (possibly) the fastest projectiles in the game reaching the maximum 1100m range in under 0.33 seconds.
There might be some new things for you to know about particle physics (maybe)
worldly heart
prisma is faster it's a laser beam 
slender estuary
That's a beam not a projectile 
worldly heart
might as well make yours a beam with that speed
slender estuary
It's not meant to be one
worldly heart
so a new gauss?
vapid lodge
👀 In our current roleplay in WR universe, I was already playing Icarus with Railguns so powerful they would pierce through shields and stuff. Although I did put a limitation : one shield was clearly not enough, a second one would stop, but both shields would be destroyed/disrupted
worldly heart
railgun skyros
vapid lodge
Also I don't understand the 800m range. How an accelerated projectile is supposed to vanish beyond that range ? 🤔 That's something I don't understand with Kang Dae and Gauss already, but this one is even faster in projectile speed. For the sake of those cannons' power, they deserve 1100m (although game balance would certainly not like that)
worldly heart
maybe the friction they cause from travelling so fast through the air makes them explode
vapid lodge
railgun skyros <:leo_laugh:809085074627887164>
Actually it's all about heavy railguns put on vehicles and stationary defenses. The only robot holding such a weapon is a modified Schutze, equipped with the equivalent of a Beta-sized weapon (and holding Alpha-type firepower for current standards)
worldly heart
so titan weapons on bots
vapid lodge
maybe the friction they cause from travelling so fast through the air makes them...
With good aerodynamics it should do the trick up to 1100m though 🤔 Even if standard artillery batteries are supersonic but not even close to mach 10, when the shell hits the target at 40 km the shell is intact. Also at such a speed the problem would be certainly that friction will reduce the speed by a tremendous amount rather than disintegrating the shell. If it can pierce through shields and metal plates without being destroyed, I'm not worried about air friction
vapid lodge
It's not even "hard" science there, only a sort of logic. If your shell is hardened enough to pierce any type of energy shield, metal plate, armour, etc, then why Air would stop it ? 🤔 This wouldn't make any sense
marsh musk
Introducing my new concepts based on particle accelerators, powerful long range ...
Hell nah
slender estuary
eh i think we dont need to science this one
My logic is that it fades away at a certain distance as it's an energy projectile, they lose energy quickly to their surroundings via thermodynamics, etc (physics stuff basically)
Also the same logical reasons why laser cannons are ineffective at sniping at vast distances in other sci-fi like Star Wars, etc
worldly heart
so would it deal less damage at long range
slender estuary
Logically yes but this won't apply here, doesn't need to be purely based on actual physics
Because it's called game design
vapid lodge
My logic is that it fades away at a certain distance as it's an energy projectil...
Uh wait a second ?! 👀 A Railgun doesn't shoot an energy projectile... At least how we know them
A Railgun/Coilgun from our modern technology fires a solid metal projectile, for it to be attracted or repulsed by all the magnetic systems inside. With WR technology I don't say this would't be possible (Dragoon and Magnum exist), but this wouldn't be called a proper "Railgun" anymore I think 🤔
worldly heart
a very big sniper rifle
vapid lodge
Actually, yes. The projectiles are fired so fast that you should remember those viral things developed by the US navy : even an array of concrete walls shattered in pieces when they fired through. And it was not a space magic plasma or laser stuff, just a metal rod propelled at an unseen speed
It's maybe the most powerful expression of "kinetic energy" used on a projectile weapon ever created by humanity
slender estuary
Uh wait a second ?! 👀 A Railgun doesn't shoot an energy projectile... At least ...
Well it was never mentioned as a "true" railgun
Remember, it's sci-fi
worldly heart
to be fair we do have giant floating lightning angels
vapid lodge
But the "Railgun" denomination used on an energy weapon is confusing a lot, hence my reaction is a prime example. A Railgun as named nowadays, people see the massive kinetic cannon with electromagnets and stuff... As for an energy weapon, Dragoon is in fact closer to your weapon than a Railgun
Also, what type of energy projectile does it shoot to go hypersonic ? 🤔
worldly heart
we could just call it a very big energy cannon
slender estuary
If you wanna go full logical explanation, then I'll overhaul the descriptions
vapid lodge
I don't mind your weapon firing "energy" projectiles. It's WR universe, we got all the space magic we want with homing bullets, flying robots with unattached wings, unpenetrable forcefields, even energy shields would be a pain to justify in our world. So no problem with that.
My problem is the denomination : "railgun" is commonly used to refer to a kinetic cannon working with an electromagnetic burst in order to fire the projectile. Or, reading again your description after talking about energy projectiles, I had this reaction because of one single thing. In my head, seeing "heavy railgun" settled the thing : it's a big magnetic cannon. But in fact its an energy launcher which has certainly little to do with an actual Railgun. If you want to confuse people, stay like that for sure, but it's maybe not what you want
The Gauss family are named "Railguns" because they meet the basic criteria : they are kinetic, and they have a barrel made of "rails" which is a possible feature of those cannons (not having an enclosed barrel like a standard firearm, only needing a few guiding rails in theory)
worldly heart
whats the dragoon family called?
vapid lodge
Not railguns. They fire what seems to be plasma, but I don't think it's confirmed anywhere
worldly heart
one sec ima boot up wr
it says automatic energy gun
we could call this heavy energy gun
vapid lodge
Cannon could be a little more accurate, but energy gun works I guess
worldly heart
energy cannon works too
vapid lodge
Energy cannon to avoid ambiguity
worldly heart
now we need ksiro to see this
slender estuary
I don't mind your weapon firing "energy" projectiles. It's WR universe, we got a...
I'm only offering/asking a simple question: Want the description changed, or not?
vapid lodge
For the sake of avoiding confusion, yes
slender estuary
A simple answer would've been enough really
vapid lodge
But I thought of something : your weapons are named after the particle collisioners, so do your weapons have something related to their working ?
slender estuary
It's in the description as well, but I'm no physicist so that's just what I think may do to systems being rocked by projectiles with that much speed & energy
vapid lodge
So if your weapons are actually just opened particle accelerators, the definition "firing sub-atomic particles" would be more accurate than "railgun", and it adds a fearsome dimension to get hit by such a threat. Also a logical reason for the beams to not get stopped by energy shields, as they weren't designed to do that at all. For physical shields I still don't know how to explain, but at this point I could just leave that aside
slender estuary
Not exactly, it's due to how incredibly fast the projectiles are shot at, in reality it's not even close to 99.9999991% speed of light, they're simply named that way
and I'm pretty sure it's hard to find names that involves things that shoot projectiles that fast, especially when it does so at greater speeds than actual railguns (which is like mach 6-7 vs mach 10)
vapid lodge
Oh okay
So if not an actual sub-atomic beam, what do those cannons fire ? I'm curious now... Rather Dragoon-like, or Atomizer-like (bigger) ? 🤔 Or a completely new type described behind-the-scenes
slender estuary
Maybe some type of plasma like in those conventional laser cannons
I can't say antimatter because they'll just annihilate everything
(1 kg antimatter = 43 megatons [big nope])
worldly heart
is it kind of like a dragoon gauss hybrid
slender estuary
You can probably say that as no other conventional weapon shoots faster projectiles than a railgun as of now