Wr Lore

[snow crypt]

obviously there are exceptions

[jade hare]

I know

I hope they will make another scavenger event

I think Mars could be a good scavenger robot

[snow crypt]

what we don’t get is a part two to most of these events

sometimes we are left with a cliffhanger

[jade hare]

Yeah

Actually I still don't know ¾ of all these events' lore

[jade hare]

Also next time let's talk about who or what these are

An old faction who lost in history or something else? 🤔

[snow crypt]

there were several other factions that came before the five factions of our time

basically pre cataclysm earth factions

[jade hare]

Yeah but we only know about one for sure and it's this:

SpaceTech's logo before they moved out to space

[stuck imp]

Maybe Matroska is talking about non-Coporation factions 🤔 Just like the Scavengers, there are other people outside of the 5 giants

And judging by the aesthetics of those buildings, they had a weird taste

[jade hare]

I know what Fox wanted to say but still we know only 1 faction that was there before the Cataclysm

[jade hare]

🤔

The Engineers: The first faction who made humanoid like robots

[stuck imp]

In a very old design inspiration. Didn't we already spot latin scriptures in the area ?

[jade hare]

¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Idk

[snow crypt]

the likely builders are from the middle east or asia, since they are more likely to build with an aesthetic that serves as an homage to the ancient gods.

as for spacetech, they could have been a company that specialized in aviation, before become the NASA of wr

[snow crypt]

so i did some dimensional analysis and found out that motherships are realistically ~10 times larger than your regular robot.

[jade hare]

Copy paste the same from #703173768708882492 to here:

I mean it makes sense from a lore point of view because there can be 5 titans and 25 robots + 7 drones inside a mothership

[stuck imp]

Indra just chilling on that Frozen Scorn And it's a Titan so the hangar bay seems to be at least suitable to fit everything you need

[torn spoke]

i wonder do myself, do commanders and pilots get some sort of id card when make a new account?

[snow crypt]

technically, every new account is a new commander

each commander is assigned an ID, which gives access to the equivalent of a military record that includes all your feats and your squad

[jade hare]

As you can see here there are a lot of info about a pilot

Which includes their ID too

[jade hare]

Also @snow crypt did you see the blue Murometz in the new WR story?

Also fusions are canon 🤡

[snow crypt]

so i was right, pixonic wanted to make the murometz blue instead of green

[jade hare]

Yeah

And the weapons too

But I think they changed their minds because the old bots were all green

Cossack, Rogatka, Vityaz, Natasha

[snow crypt]

it's actually a mix between light blue and grey, different shades of them

there is also yellow accents as well

[jade hare]

Yeah

[stuck imp]

I hope we could do that as well when Titan paint jobs will become real 👀

[jade hare]

Maybe one day

[stuck imp]

Imagine : choosing yourself the colors to put on your machine, robot and Titan alike 👀 Like you get to select Primary, Secondary, Patterns, Highlights... And as much needed to have some style

[jade hare]

Let's ping Ksiro 🤡

[stuck imp]

Honestly, how cool would that be ? A skin "à la carte" 🤔 And legendary/alternative skins would provide other patterns, or give access to other color palettes compared to stock one

[abstract flare]

Wr may become fashion game

Peoples’ creativity also can be shown

[stuck imp]

Nobody would prevent you from running a pink Ares anymore

But maybe the standard palette could be limited to avoid those surprisingly bright colours, like : those are war machines. Although the mexican themed skins are bright enough to invalidate this argument

Hey, you know what : having a palette represented through the skins you possess. So rare skins would keep their value, by gaining access to other colors 🤔

[abstract flare]

That’s seem to be a good idea

[jade hare]

Yeah

[stuck imp]

For example, possessing Rogatka and/Vityaz gives access to the standard military green (and maybe 2-3 different shades, to customise a bit) ; but getting the Kirin skin for Vityaz gives access to orange for example. So each skin could give access to a handful of colours, letting the others be collected with other skins.
Of course there could be an option to equip the good old skins if you are lazy creating your own, but you could create a few custom skins for your robots/Titans

[jade hare]

There could be the normal skins that we know now and there could be an option that says: Custom where you could make your own ones

[snow crypt]

the only problem is that pixo might monetize this type of customization, especially with unique patterns and decals.

similar to what fortnite does with cosmetics

[jade hare]

0 + 8 = ...

[snow crypt]

not saying it’s a bad idea, but knowing pixonic they’ll do something to get something out of it.

[jade hare]

Pay 1k gold to unlock custom paintjobs. Pay 1,5k more to get +1 slot so you can save your paintjob

[snow crypt]

yeah

however, some designs like this one only work with a number of colors.

[stuck imp]

I don't see SE have custom skins, as they are already a very unique item in the game. Except with Warrior Typhon we don't understand anymore what's going on... It would be to give a more personal feeling about your non-SE robot, like creating your own little peasant SE with your design

[jade hare]

Like you can customize your own bot's outside like Theseus did it with his Skyros' inside

[delicate jacinth]

[snow crypt]

well certain ses can be customizable to some extent, i’ve found out you can mix and match the color schemes of warrior, baihu and lunar designs.

provided that they are similar enough

[jade hare]

Yeah

[snow crypt]

what are the chances of wr doing a crossover

[abstract flare]

Wr did a crossover with Serious Sam in a previous Christmas event

[jade hare]

Everyone knows that but what are the chances that they do another one? 🤔

[snow crypt]

low, but lets discuss some potential ones

for ones that are looking to profit both parties, wr could do a crossover with any one of the battle royale games like fortnite or pubg. The most i could see in terms of content that can be generated from this collaboration is maybe new pilots, new map and maybe a time limited variation of arena for wr, this goes for any royale game in general.

wr is too out of place to have a good crossover with any of the other popular main stream pc games, there are very few games that could possibly work like mechwarrior or titanfall. However, Pixonic can be quite experimental with robot designs, and SEs allow them to do that so maybe having a robot that looks like a demon from doom eternal wouldn't be so abnormal, in terms of artstyle. Pilots have some freedom with design as well, but are bounded by an overarching design philosophy depending on what faction they hail from. For maps, we are pretty much restricted to Earth, Moon and Mars, the most pixonic can do is make a new map that takes place on any one of the planets of our solar system, they could try to do some variations of existing maps in a different setting (think cyberpunk 2077 themed shenzhen). The lore for such a crossover would be mindboggling and just confusing i suspect. Depending on the crossover, custom gamemodes might come into play, like infection or something similar (though this type of gamemode is very complicated to implement), but remains outside of expectations. Like any determined gaming company, they could do all this on their own and draw inspiration from other titles, there are some robots, weapons and maybe pilots that are either indirectly or directly inspired by something else (inquisitor was most likely inspired by warhammer series.)

[jade hare]

I mean we have ffa so they could make a special edition skirmish too or something like that

[jade hare]

The lore of the crossover would be like the Serious Sam crossover. The pilots magically appeared.

"It's not clear how exactly Sam managed to end up in this universe, although jumping to another reality by accident is pretty much on brand for him."

-Sam Stone's story

Now that I think of it. In some crossovers there could be a storm that puts you into another universe like in the Monster Hunter movie

But there could be a device for this too. Both a portable and a stationary one

[stuck imp]

Monster Hunter crossover 👀 I mean, that would leave room for dope SE

[jade hare]

Yeah

Actually if you think about it WR could do a crossover with everything

Skins and SEs or even motherships and drones could be modified to match everything

[stuck imp]

The freedom of SEs allow this yeah

[jade hare]

If the crossover is with something that is futuristic and have machines in it then you can have things like the Octanian drone

But if it's something else which has monsters or just a normal game that happens in real life then you can still make skins and SEs

[stuck imp]

Pixonic did a great move when they made Eldritch Ares I believe it's the first SE of the game, even before it gave bonus HP

Tell me if I'm wrong

[snow crypt]

eldritch ares and deathwing ao juns were the pioneers of SEs

[jade hare]

Yeah, they were the first ones, didn't they?

[snow crypt]

yeah

[jade hare]

What about Scavenger Griffin? 🤔

[snow crypt]

that came later

[jade hare]

I see

Eldritch Ares came with Imperial Hades

[stuck imp]

Old robot, new SE 🙃

For Griffin

[snow crypt]

the best approach for a crossover is probably the portal method

[jade hare]

We have teleporters

[snow crypt]

icarus or someone makes a portal that can cross into other universes within proximity to the current universe in the time continuum

no time travel needed

[stuck imp]

Icarus + Yan-Di to maximize Weird Stuff capabilities

[jade hare]

Imagine a storm on Earth that picked up a teleporter device and now it brings things from other universes to this one

[snow crypt]

or we can go sci fi for a second and just say that two universes merge, and things start popping up in the background and gradually make their way to the forefront.

[stuck imp]

I prefer Fox's theory to be honest. That "we" bring other universes here, rather than one other universe having access to us with a device they may not even understand in their world 🤔

[jade hare]

Everything is possible because of magik 🤡

[stuck imp]

Legit Magik, protected by Pixonic Plot Armor

[jade hare]

I like that theory too, I'm just imagining things

[snow crypt]

i once imagine icarus making a portal just to kidnap singed from arcane lol so they can make use of shimmer to outcompete evolife in chemical weaponry.

[stuck imp]

So then you kidnap every specialist from every universe, and you end up accumulating the biggest foreign database about things unfathomable in your own universe 🤔 Sound pretty evil though

[jade hare]

I really need to continue my stories and roleplay

[snow crypt]

well what else would a money hungry, technologically driven, half-cyborg corporation do?

[jade hare]

Make their own tech? 🤔

[snow crypt]

and why not find ways to make it better?

even if it is unfathomable

[stuck imp]

Yeah but stealing the others' tech is better, though I rather see Yan-Di doing that

[snow crypt]

yan-di is expected, but realistically all 5 corporations would steal in a heartbeat.

[jade hare]

Why "borrow" stuff when you can make yours? If you "borrow" someone else's stuff then there will be people who know how to stop it but if you do your own then only you will know how to stop it

[snow crypt]

you can reverse engineer stuff and tweak it.

[stuck imp]

Maybe the most honest Faction is Evolife, just seeing the sheer amount of tech they actually invented 🤔 almost everything they use (except notably Aegis), they invented it : corrosion, Nanobots, negative effects... And even got massively stolen by other Factions for that

[snow crypt]

well they got poor security

[stuck imp]

Nian was maybe right 🤔 They need more potent technologies and manners

[snow crypt]

well i think she wanted change, probably hinting that evolife is most likely pacifist in nature and possibly conservative.

[jade hare]

Evolife didn't made nanobots. Earthlings were the first ones who made them but they weren't perfect

[stuck imp]

In our roleplay, Argent managed to almost completely change the Faction ways of fighting (haha Stealth and cunning go brrrrrr), but I don't even think he could legitimately do that knowing how DSC works 🤔 The Committee seems very closed to change as well, and anything coming from below would take ages to be taken in consideration... If anything can be said at all. I see DSC as fairly conservative, with all ideas of change coming from above only

[jade hare]

https://youtu.be/_v3IotlAVYI

[stuck imp]

Forgot that, yes. With Kyle's story ! Evolife took and refined the blueprints only

[snow crypt]

so what playstyle would evolife be

considering the robots and weapons that can be attributed to them

playstyle may help to explain their social and cultural mentality

[stuck imp]

Keep their ground. Evolife robots are mostly made to stay as long as possible on the field, using Stealth for Loki or brutal strength with Fenrir or Weyland. And weakening the enemy, as shown with the Blackout series and Leech

[jade hare]

Evolife is kinda like a scientist with good personality but someone else wanted him to build deadly machines and this scientist thought it would change the world in a good way but then he realised what he did but it's too late

[snow crypt]

so specialization is important here

[stuck imp]

Evolife society relies on each individual specialised from its DNA to do one set of tasks. So having robots specialised as well seems right 🤔

[snow crypt]

and they specialize in sciences, so they would have a radical/revolutionary standpoint for most things

that’s already far from conservative

[stuck imp]

Maybe their science is innovative, but the society may be death frozen and immovable

[snow crypt]

or they just have tunnel vision when it comes to what needs to be done

nian points this out somewhat

[jade hare]

Yeah

[stuck imp]

Nian pointed out that Evolife had quite peaceful manners when war and resilience were needed ; she got banished for that. Maybe Evolife is stuck in the good old days just after the Cataclysm, when they saved many Earth humans to bring them on Mars... Creating marvels of technologies in their underground world, but yet unknown to what's really outside

[snow crypt]

for a society that’s made up of mostly scientists, it is suspect that they wouldn’t be very good in politics.

[jade hare]

Like Peregrin Raine? 🤔

[stuck imp]

Politics and science are two separate worlds. The Scientists don't rule a society ; Politicians do

[snow crypt]

however what their doing here is actively preventing war

you can argue that war inspires innovation in the name of victory and positive outcome, but it comes down to who lasts the longest, and i believe evolife will somehow mess up during wartime.

[jade hare]

But it's already wartime 🤔

[snow crypt]

actually it isn’t

[stuck imp]

We don't really know if Evolife is in war ; probably not

[jade hare]

I mean on Earth

[snow crypt]

all factions are in a current state of peace as of 2143

[stuck imp]

War rages on Earth, not on Mars where Evolife is based. See that as sending soldiers far from home : this doesn't say that you would survive an attack right on your home base

[snow crypt]

now tobias did talk about proxy wars and personal conflicts

and technically, the gameplay we get are 6 mercenaries going up against 6 other mercenaries using faction gear and robots

[stuck imp]

Yeah we never see the Faction actually fight each other

[jade hare]

"Decades have passed. The year is 2142. Although on Mars it is a time of peace — techically — the old home of humanity became a battleground for bounty hunters and proxy mercenaries."

-Faction lore

[snow crypt]

you can argue that the pilots that hail from factions fighting each other can be considered war, but it’s not on a political scale nor is it even considered widely involved enough to be considered a faction war.

[stuck imp]

Yes, war on Earth. All the five Factions are based on Mars, and we don't even know if the five corporations actually fight each other, or just send mercenaries instead of their own troops 🤔

[jade hare]

I mean there are attacks on Mars too like the SpaceTech Heist event

[snow crypt]

it might have been in space

[stuck imp]

I think the Spacetech Heist took place on an orbital station around Earth 🤔

[snow crypt]

that could have easily been a form of terrorism

i theorize that we are currently in a period of exposition

or maybe rising action, but there is like little evidence of that

[jade hare]

I think there's war between the factions but not a really active one

[snow crypt]

tobias says that too

[stuck imp]

Argent casually declaring open conflict between Icarus and DSC be like

[jade hare]

I'm Tobias 🤡

[snow crypt]

bruh

[jade hare]

That's not the lore

[stuck imp]

Yeah I know

[snow crypt]

so small confrontations between two factions seems to be what’s happening in the background, and everything around there, but nothing big enough to spark a war.

[jade hare]

We will do it then 🤡

[stuck imp]

And a war would inevitably trigger Alliances : we have trace of Factions allying against each other, the ones being known are DSC with Spacetech and Yan-Di with Evolife 🤔

[snow crypt]

yeah, just have 6 players role play as dsc using dsc robots and another 6 players roleplay as icarus using icarus, closest thing you’ll get to a faction war

[stuck imp]

That would be awesome with a true Spectator mode though 👀

[snow crypt]

yeah

lets talk alliances for a moment, who will be aligned with whom?

[jade hare]

5 factions...

1 will be alone

[snow crypt]

6 if you include scavengers

[jade hare]

Scavengers are on all sides

They aren't a real faction

[stuck imp]

+ is canon
+ I remember seeing that somewhere
And has no known Alliances up to this day 🤔

[jade hare]

They are factionless

[snow crypt]

yeah, but for this purpose they will be the catch all for the unaffiliated

[jade hare]

I mean Theseus + Scavengers 🤔
Theseus is basically an Icarus member at this point

[stuck imp]

Former Icarus member. I don't think the colony would be happy to see him again. Also he would be considered dead or whatever at this point 🤔

[snow crypt]

yan-di and evolife may have similar motives, so an alliance seems likely

[stuck imp]

Basically all pilots we have in game are not members of their colony anymore

[jade hare]

Icarus + Scavengers seems fine

[jade hare]

Roleplay between Paul, ATOM and 470M-X1

[stuck imp]

Having a talk with a technician shouldn't mean an Alliance though

Maybe a small-scale cease-fire, but nothing at large scale. I think it's what makes this Scavenger alliance impossible, due to the lack of global decision system to deal with the Scavengers

[snow crypt]

well the problem with scavengers is that there is no unified body

[jade hare]

I know but still. A faction with ultra futuristic tech + a faction with scrap metal/lots of resources = ultra futuristic big army

[snow crypt]

alliance is possible for things like clans, but that’s probably too much political work for any of the other factions

imagine having like 100+ clans using scavenger tech

among other things

[stuck imp]

Maybe allying with one or two Scavenger groups is possible, but not the entire group. Not mentioning that that are very widespread on Earth, which makes unification even harder

[jade hare]

Scavengers are like a big family. Everyone knows everyone but they are separated into little groups that can be found everywhere. There's a strong bond between scavengers so if someone is at war everyone comes to help

[snow crypt]

with that mentality, best way to unite them and get their attention is catastrophe

drop a big ole tactical bomb in the ocean and you get tsunami, everyone comes to help those affected.

[jade hare]

Scavengers assemble!!

And then every scavenger on Earth came to help out

[stuck imp]

War Robots : Endgame

[jade hare]

Icarus could give scavengers teleporters so they could be there faster

[snow crypt]

they probably have scavenger variants of flying robots

[stuck imp]

They could give them actual good robots to begin with

[jade hare]

Or make fusions

[stuck imp]

Scavenger machines may not be in best shape... They faced better days I guess, or else they wouldn't be in the hands of Scavengers

[jade hare]

Don't underestimate the scavenger tech

[snow crypt]

i’ve always thought that scavenger tech was just cheaper models that could be produced for less and much faster that export models

even though quality suffers

[jade hare]

Scavenger tech comes from the scrapyard

[snow crypt]

so yeah

[stuck imp]

Seeing the few Scavenger skins and SEs, I can assume that yeah those robots and weapons saw better days...

[jade hare]

So you all say scavengers are weak?

[stuck imp]

How did they manage to make a Heimdall work though

That's magik

[snow crypt]

blueprint, then they just improvised from there

[jade hare]

That's what I'm saying. Don't underestimate the scavengers

[snow crypt]

probably got the basic exoskeleton, then everything else came from a scrape yard or something

[stuck imp]

Not weak, just second-hand

[jade hare]

You have a blueprint that you found in the trash then you go to the scrapyard and get some parts for it like a lego set

[snow crypt]

yes exactly

[jade hare]

So scavengers can build anything if they want

[snow crypt]

if they have a blueprint that is

[stuck imp]

Or you found an old robot in scrap and repair it with whatever you have 🤔

[snow crypt]

dunno how creative they are

[jade hare]

They can improvise and make their own robots

[snow crypt]

yeah ok, where are they

[jade hare]

That too

[jade hare]

Yes 🤡

Pixonic didn't make them yet

[stuck imp]

custom lore intensifies

[jade hare]

They are really creative

[snow crypt]

if that were the case, then they should have the genuineness to make a robot from ravana and khepri

[jade hare]

~~My stories slide in ~~

Mars could be a good Scavenger bot

[snow crypt]

anything that is conventional in some sense can be scavenger-ized

[jade hare]

Scavengers are about finding things in the trash and then rebuilding it how you want

[snow crypt]

hm

yan-di should have hired the whole lot of them during the earth restoration event

[jade hare]

But they didn't because Yan-di is not friends with Scavengers

[snow crypt]

you don’t need to be friends with them to hire them

[jade hare]

Scavengers are not hireable...

[snow crypt]

then you buy them

[jade hare]

[snow crypt]

we haven’t even talked about human ethics in wr yet

[jade hare]

You can hire/buy mercenaries but scavengers are not mercenaries

[stuck imp]

Evolife : yes

[snow crypt]

you can buy anything, so long as you can pay the price

otherwise you resort to more aggressive methods

like annexation and forced labourers

or just pay dsc to do the work for you

[jade hare]

Scavengers became scavengers because they wanted this lifestyle and they only help friends or strangers who are nice to them like Paul

[snow crypt]

so if yan-di asks them very nicely to help them restore earth, would they help?

[jade hare]

Maybe. Depends on why they want to do that

[snow crypt]

yan-di can name several reasons, and they can always bring in some icarus nerd or evolife scientist to list off a hundred more.

[jade hare]

If it's because you want power then they would probably deny it but if it's because you want to stop others from becoming more powerful then they would probably help

But there are the Earthlings too so if Yan-di wants to reclaim Earth then they would probably not gonna help

[snow crypt]

yan-di already has power

now yan-di hosted the event as a tournament style event lorewise. But if they really intended to reclaim earth, then the only motive here would be for environmentalism and future investments

[jade hare]

Reclaim = Rebuild 🤔

[snow crypt]

such an endeavour by yan-di alone would be a good enough opportunity for any other faction to either take out yan-di or get the motivation to help

because if you can make earth a blank slate with some trees here and there, that’s a huge opportunity for growth in every aspect

[stuck imp]

Rebuild = Value
Value = Stonks

[snow crypt]

and scavengers can grow potatoes and corn

[jade hare]

As a representative of scavengers I say that we need to ask the Earthlings if they allow this

[stuck imp]

Evolife mastered the tech for hydroponic plants, but if Scavengers managed to grow "real" ones on Earth this can be an interesting thing for the Factions

[snow crypt]

agriculture between evolife and scavengers will most likely hold hands when restarting earth, so cooperation here is extremely important between them and yan-di

[jade hare]

Scavengers learnt the ability to grow real plants from Earthlings

I feel like you guys sometimes mix the 2 factions. Earthlings and Scavengers

[stuck imp]

Yeah Earthlings are the key here, as the original dwellers of Earth and not searching to take part in the war

[snow crypt]

there will always be an instigator lying in wait on either side, so that’s impossible.

[jade hare]

Scavengers are roamimg the battlefields on Earth and love to scavenge and build machines for themselves to survive. They are friendly if you are friendly too and they always want to talk first.

Earthlings are roaming the Earth searching for useful things to survive and they don't want to harm others but they are territorial so they will attack you if you get close.

[stuck imp]

Scavengers are nomadic Earthlings in a sense 🤔

[snow crypt]

so how does yan-di convince them

[stuck imp]

They can't I guess

[snow crypt]

and you can’t simply ask every single person on earth

[stuck imp]

Imagine a company coming on your hardly-gained ground with intent of using your workforce for their own projects. Maybe you could gain some things from them, but yet they are trespassers 🤔

[jade hare]

You go to Earthlings with a white flag and say you want to help them. They first will want to kill you but you shouldn't attack them. You need to be nice to them at all costs so they will trust you and you can tell them what you want (rebuilt the Earth so they can live a better life there)

[snow crypt]

you know what, we’ll ask you guys to do it, since you have better experience with them. A random company appearing randomly is already alienating to them regardless.

[jade hare]

That's an option too

You ask scavengers to ask the Earthlings

[snow crypt]

so assuming negotiations are successful

yan-di gets evolife on board and then we start unpacking our seed vaults

but first we gotta test the soil and other things

[stuck imp]

Only thing : don't even try to blur the tracks and go off-road from whet you concluded with the Earthlings. At the smallest misstep you can just face the biggest civil War you've ever seen, at the scale of a planet

[snow crypt]

a fine line being walked for something so significantly important

we can divide and conquer

[stuck imp]

Can work, but it's double or nothing

[snow crypt]

yan-di starts with north america, scavengers and earthlings get south america and africa

that way, there should be little internal tension in the beginning

minimal interference

some collaboration will be required for areas that blend from urban to natural

now what can also happen is changing of roles and interjection from other factions like evolife being late to the party

this all works to some degree, but it all stops as soon as one of the collaborators don’t share collective goals.

[stuck imp]

And secret plans are much likely to happen, especially when talking of Yan-Di

[jade hare]

Earthlings just want to live in peace far away from the other factions

Because factions = war

[stuck imp]

Plausible shortcut from Earth pov

[snow crypt]

which is why interjection is a bad thing

the activity should just be limited to yan-di and evolife

as well as earth’s inhabitants

though all you really need is evolife and earths inhabitants, but yan-di is largely responsible for funding.

[jade hare]

Yan-di brings money, Evolife brings plants

[snow crypt]

yeah

[jade hare]

Earthlings are a problem from the 2 faction's pov but they need to work together if they want to reach their goal because if they attack the Earthlings they will get destroyed

[snow crypt]

how i imagine this, is that you would be responsible for handling the earthlings.

you tell us what works and what doesn’t

[jade hare]

Yeah, like an English and a German talking but they don't understand each other so you need a translator person

[snow crypt]

yeah

[jade hare]

But keep in mind if you screw it up the Earthlings will attack and the Scavengers will take your destroyed robot's parts

[snow crypt]

we’ll handle ourselves, after all Yan-Di is adept at negotiations

[stuck imp]

Angry people aren't generally open to negotiation though 🤔

[snow crypt]

we can always try anything and everything, but that’ll just make us look desperate.

[jade hare]

Yeah. I thought about a Planet of Apes movie now where they wanted to generate electricity with a dam but the dam was on the Apes territory so after some negotiations they allowed it to fix the dam but one of the humans brought a weapon that the Apes didn't allowed so the Apes got anrgy and kicked the humans out.

This could happen with Yan-di too if they aren't careful enough

[stuck imp]

This whole Earth Reclamation is a very risky operation for the Factions. The planet doesn't belong to them anymore after all. The equilibrium is fragile

[snow crypt]

well if they don’t come after earth, it’ll be some other planet equivalent to it

and alien life can be worse that earthlings

[jade hare]

Earthlings only accept this "deal" because they could come out good but if Yan-di makes a wrong move then they will attack immediately and they will continue to live their lifes

[stuck imp]

Maybe they consider Earth as more than a space rock : a symbol of their former glory, the origin of Mankind 🤔

[snow crypt]

or just free real estate

[jade hare]

I still don't know why rebuilding Earth is good for Yan-di 🤔

[snow crypt]

smh

[jade hare]

I can imagine some things but idk the actual reason

[snow crypt]

same reasons why walmart exists everywhere and has most of their things outsourced

[jade hare]

They could buy a land and then plant food there and then export it to Mars and sell it

[snow crypt]

that’s one of them

[jade hare]

Whatever you want to do with the land you need to tell itt to the Earthlings first because it's their land so you need to buy it from them but they won't gonna sell it to you if you want to use it for bad things

[snow crypt]

well what constitutes as bad?

building factories?

[jade hare]

What will you build in the factories? 🤔

[snow crypt]

raw materials for export, building a robot production facility on earth is way too risky

[jade hare]

So you want to build robot parts there and then export?

[snow crypt]

yeah

among other things

[jade hare]

I think that would be a maybe.
They would say no first but you desperately want to do it so you argue with them and then they would say yes but they would go to the factory every week to see what you build and if they don't like it they will take that thing away

[snow crypt]

they could just buy it

[jade hare]

Or a group of Earthlings would always stay there to see what you doing

[jade hare]

Why would they want to buy it from you if they can just kick you out from the entire Earth if you make a wrong move?

[snow crypt]

we’ll loss profit, but whatever.

[jade hare]

Yeah, that's your problem, not the Earthlings problem

[snow crypt]

well then no parts to fix their robots

or anything really, cause these factories produce raw materials that can be made into anything.

[jade hare]

They don't need that. They rather have a peaceful life without any help then a life full of war and helping friends

They are already used to live alone without help

[snow crypt]

i am not about to lose sleep over this, they can do whatever the hell they want, yan-di is a goddamn corporate giant, they could care less.

[jade hare]

You do what you want. Earthlings a stubborn faction. If you want to talk about this topic later we can. And sleep well 👋

[snow crypt]

nope

[snow crypt]

if you were kidnapped by time travelling Icarus agents, what would you do?

[stuck imp]

I think you wouldn't have that much power if they came to kidnap you in particular. So the question would be : what would they do once you have been kidnapped ? 🤔

[snow crypt]

well what do you think?

[abstract flare]

Tell them: I am your grandfather

[jade hare]

First of all I need to know why they wanted to kidnap me so I will know how to act (also why is the time travelling? 🤔)

[stuck imp]

Time travelling : shush it's Icarus tech

[abstract flare]

In last Halloween event, there’s a character in WR universe feared that they are live in a game. So I come up with a stupid question that what if all people in WR universe know that they are in a game (let’s theory that they still think their lives are meaningful so they still follow their aim)

kinda dumb

[stuck imp]

Computer science has gone far enough to actually create advanced AIs 🤔 And it could be possible to go like Matrix, all men/women connected in a virtual world unbeknownst to their will. This would be a deux ex machina element, but this is plausible

With such an assumption everything is possible : Humanity may have never colonised Mars, staying in bunkers or orbital arks ; but connected in this virtual world, certainly in a more irreversible way than your average VR (directly into neural system ?), nobody could figure this out and live their best life. Or they purposely disappeared in this virtual world only to forget that the Earth is dead... Everything becomes a viable theory if we take that path

[abstract flare]

Ye, that’s what the character actually feared of. But I mean what if they know they are in a game named War Robot that is developed by Pixonic staff

[stuck imp]

Yeah that's a bit pushed. One step too far

[jade hare]

@stuck imp

"Scavenged from the scrapyard and reassembled into a pilot"

This sounds funny when you know the roleplay server 😅

470M-X1

[stuck imp]

They have spies everywhere

[jade hare]

I already knew that 2 years ago. I made some robot ability concepts and stuffs like that and over the years I found similar things in the game.

Like I made Cerberus but I called it Venom and it was a bit different, then I made EMP which complete shut your robot down but then when Pixonic made it it only disabled the abilities, I made blind effect too which was kinda weird, your whole screen went black except the buttons, joystick, beacon bar and things like that

Actually I have a question...

Who made MARKUS‽

[stuck imp]

I initiated a concept very similar to Demeter like 6 months before the robot came out. It was rather a heavy tank than a nimble hover, but the concept was there since the Scorpion existed. Or Resistor Plating which resembles Forcefield, in the fact that it's a 80% resistance that shuts down if it receives too much damage (complete shut down for about 7s). It works way better than Forcefield in its model : using a heat gauge, depleting it when fired upon, and recharging when not receiving damage for 4s straight. And this robot had an ability to manually engage a quick cool-down of its Plating, but deactivating it in the process. That would be very fun to see, and more balanced than Forcefield

[jade hare]

It wasn't the scavengers because it would be all rusty...

[stuck imp]

Maybe some people like Soren de Vos : they are mercenaries on their own, but they have access to very expensive technology. I rather see that kind of people make Markus than Scavengers indeed

[jade hare]

Yeah. I don't see why would Thomas, Johny and Samael want to build a 4th people into their group so Soren and Nian could be the creators of Markus but why would 2 bad guy from Evolife want to build an Android? Wouldn't they just genetically modify a human to do the job for them?

Is there any "bad guy" in the WR universe like these people? 🤔

[stuck imp]

An Icarus/Yan-Di separatist group ? They would have the knowledge

[jade hare]

🤔

[stuck imp]

"🤔" indeed

[cedar nexus]

Who pilots titans? It doesnt say ai controlled or have pilots

[jade hare]

We players (Commanders)

[stuck imp]

Commanders pilot the Titans. And presumably it's us (players) who need to take the wheel in person

[cedar nexus]

Nice i like that idea

[jade hare]

We get hired by someone and they put us into the titans to make decisions on the battlefield. The other pilots who are controlling our robots are your team. You tell commands to them and they will do it

That's why we are called Commanders

And not Pilots

[stuck imp]

Who remembers the time when us were called "Pilots" ?

[jade hare]

It was before Titans

[stuck imp]

Exactly. Feels old suddenly

[cedar nexus]

What happened to that map with the two pong bridges and the center pedestal thing?

That one was probably my fav

[jade hare]

It is getting remastered on the test server. It was taken out of the game at one point but they are bringing it back

[snow crypt]

be grateful, pixonic just promoted every single player to rank of commander, otherwise we would be a part of someone else's team.

[lime kayak]

Lmao 🤡

[upbeat inlet]

👀

[abstract flare]

At least they would actually follow their mission in beacon game is cap them instead of running away and don’t even care to help rushers

[stuck imp]

Also why do people run away from Bulwark shields and healers ? I take the Bulwark example because in most cases this shield is the only step before Absorber shield in terms of raw power... Nah they prefer dying to charge their Mothership If they were pilots under command, this situation should never happen, right ?

[jade hare]

As you already said this before, the gameplay and the lore is 2 different things so the answer is: Yes, that would never happen. Except if it's part of a bigger plan

[stuck imp]

As players, shouldn't we make everything we can to get as closely to a lore-accurate game ? 🤔 Philosophical question

[abstract flare]

Why they run from healer: probably because of sweet 220 honor point from being the best healer

But I thought we are a type of paid solider.

[stuck imp]

Even if those soldiers get paid for repairing the other machines of their squad, running away from them just because of that payment is like blindly committing the worse case of ego-centrism 🤔 We take the destruction of our robot as a simple formality : the pilot ejects, lands somewhere in safety, end of the case. But as we learnt in the Team B Stories, it doesn't happen like that every time : your capsule can get jammed, you can land in a unsafe place, or encounter Grey Robots that will recklessly fire at your ejection pod (and probably kill you instantly)... So even on the "paid soldier" point of view, gambling your life to avoid your partners having a bit more $$ than you, it sounds worthless

[jade hare]

They are probably having the same personality as Ash 🤡

[cedar nexus]

everyone under level 21 (when you unlock titans) is still the rank of pilot

[snow crypt]

a pilot wouldn’t be able to command 5 other pilots

[jade hare]

Yeah

We are still commanders below lvl 21 but we didn't get our first titan yet. We need to earn it first

[jade hare]

Did you know that they leaked the list of the remastered maps a while ago?

"Incredible tours in:
Springfield, Shenzen, Yamantau"

[cedar nexus]

Then we’re just a pilot in the tutorial because we only have a destrier

And then when we get a second robot, we’re promoted to a commander

And after that, its either a hierarchy up to having a titan, or its just how rich the commander is

Probably a hierarchy since you get Kid for free

[jade hare]

I think we are a part of a Commander school and first we need to learn how to command 1 robot and then when you buy more hangar slots you get onto a higher level to practice commanding a whole team. Then when you finish the school you get your first titan for free and from that on you can get other titans from Hank or from your faction

[snow crypt]

i think the proper terminology is academy

[jade hare]

Yes

[snow crypt]

and hank is just a mascot for the blackmarket

[jade hare]

He's always there and knows everyone and everything there

[snow crypt]

i wonder who is the voice actor for hank

[jade hare]

You can ask Pix about that

[snow crypt]

@feral stone who’s the voice actor for Hank?

[jade hare]

You know what I wonder about? Who is this guy? We first saw him in a video years before leaderboards was a thing but then he disappeared and then he just appeared again from nowhere

[snow crypt]

oh, that’s the leaderboard mascot, probably works for yan-di or something.

he’s like the event organizer

[jade hare]

It's a "friend" of Tal Mokri

[snow crypt]

so maybe his contractor

[jade hare]

https://youtu.be/hN0boPp6i94

[snow crypt]

time to look at the game files

[jade hare]

Tal Mokri said that

[snow crypt]

ok

game files stats he is a pilot

[jade hare]

For what?

[snow crypt]

good question

[jade hare]

What about Hank? 🤔

He's in the game too. At the gold event chest

[snow crypt]

yeah i’m looking for him

[snow crypt]

can’t find him

though i did find something interesting

[jade hare]

[snow crypt]

you ever seen red colored firing buttons?

there's one for each ui element as well

[jade hare]

It's because of the UI changing menu. You can customize your UI and if something is blocking something else then both UI element turns red

[feral stone]

Sorry, Idk 🤷‍♂️

[jade hare]

Also I need those UI elements one day for a photoshop project. Both the normal and the red ones too

[snow crypt]

you want them all?

[torn spoke]

sometimes, the firing button intrest me for no absolute reason

[jade hare]

Yeah...?

[snow crypt]

do you want me to dm them to you?

[torn spoke]

i imagine insude the cockpit theres a control system with two joysticks, one controls the movement, one controls the rotate thing, then the firing button is placed in the middle

[jade hare]

Only if you want to and have the time to do it

[snow crypt]

i got time right now

[jade hare]

There are wallpapers where you can see the inside of the cockpit

[torn spoke]

meanwhile skyros:

ball shaped controllers

[jade hare]

Here are they

[snow crypt]

oh, imagine candace as a legendary pilot for skyros

[torn spoke]

i see that the top cockpit is a bit claustrophobic while the second one is more roomy showing how cockpits changed from years to years

[jade hare]

Nah. The first one is a traditionalist Nightingale cockpit owned by a faction, the second one is Theseus's Skyros's cockpit. That's why the second one has more room. Theseus changed some things in it

[torn spoke]

and in one of the video theseus even have a vending machine in ti

[jade hare]

It's there on the wallpaper too

Oh wait, that's a mini fridge 😅

[snow crypt]

gonna compile 3175 sprites into a compressed folder for you @jade hare

[jade hare]

Can you even send that in dms? 🤔

[torn spoke]

this scene

[snow crypt]

i hope i can

[jade hare]

If not, I can give you an email address

[snow crypt]

or i'll just post it here

[jade hare]

Or you can tell me how you get access to the game's files

[snow crypt]

its complicated

[jade hare]

I see

[torn spoke]

i wonder how are you suppose to bring your belongings that big and heavy to the robot anyways

[snow crypt]

can't send it in dms

can't even send it here

[jade hare]

You want the email address?

[snow crypt]

sure, just dm me

[ancient forum]

From the very beginning of this thread I made it this far. I'm glad I stumbled on this as this answered a lot of the questions to the lore here.

[snow crypt]

glad we can help

[ancient forum]

Thanks. Although grinding Op E for lore is annoying.

[snow crypt]

we know, that's why we go through the trouble of it so we can document it

so you don't have to

[ancient forum]

I'll be honest, despite staying in the lower leagues for resources, I do enjoy a good run of Op E for the lore and challenges.

[cedar nexus]

So it says “kill” “double kill” “triple kill”, but are you actually killing anyone?

You can see the little escape pod flying away

[snow crypt]

that’s just for the sake of multiplayer gaming in general, lorewise you’re not killing anyone, your just destroying their robot.

[ancient forum]

Wasn't there something about that the fact those pods were designed so well that the bots can't even lock on them to prevent deaths of pilots?

[abstract flare]

Actually it is a rule that pilot mustn’t shoot other pilot’s pods.

There also robots that don’t care about these rule, they are grey bot

[jade hare]

You can check the operation E's lore on the fandom wiki

And other lore related things too

And Fox said it right. You don't kill actual humans, you just kill their robots. But there are gray robots who kill everything including humans too because they don't follow the mercenary rules

[ancient forum]

Noted

[jade hare]

Jad Parkes and Ricardo Gonzales are not scavengers. They are treasure hunters

[stuck imp]

Archaeologists to be fancy

For their own business

[jade hare]

Exactly

[snow crypt]

yaga gang vs clyde's crew, who wins?

[stuck imp]

Interesting question. Both seem to have equally powerful resources 🤔

[jade hare]

I mean Clyde has an entire mothership...

Which killed multiple motherships...

[stuck imp]

Yaga Gang has Murometz and Revenants at least, as they have limited paintjob and edition for both of them. The Yaga Gang seems to be a powerful organisation on Earth, so maybe one mothership wouldn't be that frightening in the end

[snow crypt]

the yaga gang may also have access to an orion

[jade hare]

I think if Clyde's team plays carefully then they can win

[stuck imp]

If they lose their Griffin's Rage, it's over I think : their best hope is their Captain's Mars, whereas the Yaga Gang has access to Murometz 🤔 Their strategy only relies on their Mothership, their masterpiece

Double or nothing

[snow crypt]

we don't even known what kate's robot is, it could very well be another mars or the kraken indra.

[ancient forum]

Speaking of which what happened to his rival?

[jade hare]

Clyde has Kraken Indra too

[jade hare]

Who is his rival? 🤔

[ancient forum]

Linda I think?

[jade hare]

Oh, yeah. She is in space somewhere

[stuck imp]

Even knowing that, their number of machines is limited by their hangar capacity. We don't know if the Yaga Gang has such limitations 🤔 And I would likely see them having more than one single Murometz for example

[jade hare]

I still think Clyde has more chance of winning

[ancient forum]

Oh...

[stuck imp]

He has a dope Mothership and OP Tiran weapons, sure that increases his chances against all the Yaga Gang's arsenal including a nerfed Titan

[jade hare]

Last time we saw her was in Team B and Team B was over with the team going out to space with an old mothership

[ancient forum]

Hmm wait what happened to Peregrin in the middle of all of this, he was captured by Clyde from that Yan-Di trade.

[ancient forum]

Now that makes more sense. Jad was getting depressed since he hasn't seen her for so long.

[jade hare]

Yeah, if you read the Erebus Jad story then it even says he heard that Linda is in trouble and he wanted to help her

[ancient forum]

I wasn't present for that sadly. I didn't upgrade neither to know this either.

[jade hare]

Don't worry. You can check the fandom wiki to read all pilot stories

[jade hare]

And the operation E stories too

[ancient forum]

Back to Clyde, if Peregrin is with him, I wonder if its possible...if the Pirates came to Earth and had the Scavs make a unique sub-group or some truce to work together?

Then the Yaga Clan would have both to deal with, along with Roberto?

[jade hare]

Hold up. We are doing a ffa with pilots now?

[stuck imp]

Can we even consider Peregrin a Scavenger ? He's literally a dude found in a bunker he spent decades in 🤔 His integration to the Scavengers is very recent

[ancient forum]

True, and we helped him fit in with Roberto so those 2 are decent I'd presume. Only way to say for sure is if we get a Scav SE for Scald, Incinerator, and ...I forgot the last one.

Might be a Scav since he's used to older tech maybe? I mean he was a Post-Cata survivor.

[jade hare]

He's a scav because he doesn't have a home and he's with Roberto so what else could he be?

[stuck imp]

Roberto is a 100% Scavenger, compared to Peregrin he makes more sense in the definition of a scavenger. Peregrin didn't really "survive" by itself, he lived in a bunker 🤔 He doesn't share the same context as others, which is my point here

[ancient forum]

I'd agree with both comments here.

[stuck imp]

So he's a Scavenger because he is now with them, but he doesn't have the backstory of a scavenger 🤔

[ancient forum]

If we actually get a Scav SE for those Blast Charge weapons, this would be direct evidence for Peregrin's work since he's a missile expert since the knowledge came from his grand father if I recall.

[jade hare]

But if I remember correctly Roberto teached him how to be a scav

[ancient forum]

I mean he was used to represent them in a trade with Yan-Di of all companies which makes sense given the company's past with stealing data and such.

[ancient forum]

Us and Roberto, he just needed to stop whining so much, and now that he's with Clyde chances are he's going to be hybrid for them and might be the reason Scavs and Space Pirate specifically trust each other and work together possibly based on their values of protecting eachother while causing some form of havoc on the companies.

[stuck imp]

The idea of protecting each other just because they both mess with the Factions is dope by itself 🤔

And this is likely to happen on top of that

[ancient forum]

Yep, glad we saved Peregrin at the nick of time too! That interaction of robbing that one Yan-Di ship changed history possibly.

If it was another Yan-Di ship the rewards wouldn't have been as nearly as great as that.

[jade hare]

https://warrobots.fandom.com/wiki/Event_Lore:_2022_Scavengers

[stuck imp]

The power of Scenarium allowed to choose the right ship

[ancient forum]

I already 100% completed the Scav event, but nice.

Beating that Sniper Task with a Arba Zenit Nat felt so dang good.

(Sure I had other bots helping, but none of them did the dmg Nat dealt in total.)

[stuck imp]

That's even more Gigachad than me with my Arba Ballista Ares

[jade hare]

I don't even do tasks 😂

[ancient forum]

Lockdown did wonders for Nat lmao.

Made sure Zenits couldn't miss anymore.

[stuck imp]

Ultimate Gigachad : wait for the lore to appear on the wiki

[ancient forum]

Anyways so we can all safely say that the Scavs and Pirates do similar things, but Scavs are like the Army as the Space Pirates are the Air Force....am I right?

[ancient forum]

Good Point. I wanted a challenge.

[jade hare]

Yeah, and I'm working on the wiki's lore section (pilot section) so I get the lore much faster (and I got rewards for it too)

[ancient forum]

Hmm does any of the OC pilot's lore even go with the general lore of WR or?

[stuck imp]

Wiki work is paid now ?

[stuck imp]

And most pilots stories fit in the general WR universe : they are our main window to the universe to be honest, that and the stories on YT tell us the vast majority of what's happening

[ancient forum]

Noted.

[jade hare]

It always has been
But only for official wiki members and you aren't always getting items. Sometimes you get resources

[stuck imp]

I always thought it was only volunteering

[jade hare]

It is 🤡

[stuck imp]

Free volunteering

[jade hare]

I already said them many times that I will do it for free too but if they want to give me something then I will accept it

[stuck imp]

You're paid against your will

[warm locust]

hmm

am confused

[stuck imp]

You got confoosed

[warm locust]

yes

utterly confused

[stuck imp]

Konfoosion

[jade hare]

The question is:
Why? 🤔

[warm locust]

dont get a single thing

[jade hare]

It isn't that confusing

[ancient forum]

Ik I maxed out confusion.

[jade hare]

I am the confusion

[stuck imp]

Confusion Mk3 Meta build

[jade hare]

Orochi with Prisma and Zenit be like

[snow crypt]

confused screaming

[cedar nexus]

Where do gray robots pop up? Like how do you know this?

Oh and who won the fight between ash and linda?

I think her name was linda

The other scorpion pilot

Nah linda was shell

Iskra maybe

Anyway who won

[stuck imp]

In a Halloween story with Drew Topkins, Lilian Statera and Ariadne Shaw, they talk about the "Grey Robots" : machines found on Earth, seemingly piloted only by computers, and not respecting any laws of the Mercenaries. Which include "do not fire on ejection pods", what those machines do.

[jade hare]

I wanted to tell him/her that

[cedar nexus]

Oh is that those AI robots?

You know, its so wholesome that theres a rule like that. Like theyre sincerely at a whole war and stuff, but they understand that killing is taking it too far, unlike today

[cedar nexus]

Lmao and im him

I should put that in my about me…

[jade hare]

Linda Cano and Jad Parkes were rivals and Olga Minina (Iskra) and Cormac de Vos were rivals too

[stuck imp]

Even today, war and tactics are made to minimise human losses. Compare today's war with WW1 or WW2 : that was a time they didn't care at all.

[cedar nexus]

Wheres ash? Im asking since his pilot story ends on a cliffhanger

[cedar nexus]

True, but there still exists people in the world who are so willing to kill

In the WR universe, even the most serial killer looking people refrain

[jade hare]

Ash is in space now I think with Linda and other people

[cedar nexus]

What they allied?

Nice

[jade hare]

I think they weren't rivals at all

[cedar nexus]

They had a 1v1 in scorpions and ashs pilot story ends with “having the most fun ive felt in ages” and doesnt say who actually won the 1v1

He was hired to kill olga i think

[stuck imp]

In WR I think there is the fact that a robot is a greater loss than a pilot... The pride is in the robot to be slain, not the human to be taken down

[cedar nexus]

Oh, nvm then i guess

[jade hare]

Iskra and Linda is not the same person

[cedar nexus]

Wait, so do people proper mourn the deaths of robots or smth?

[cedar nexus]

Yeah i figured, forget linda since i confused the name with iskra

But im referring to iskra (olga)

[stuck imp]

Maybe not to that point (actually ? 🤔), but on the battlefield a human is nothing. Destroying a robot is the action that matters, the human is not the target. Letting the pilot alive is also a chance for a rematch, which could show the pride and panache that remain in the pilots

[cedar nexus]

Like orks in warhammer?

But wait, in some robot overviews, itll say “first aid kit included” so is there a risk of death for pilots?

And when a robot is AI controlled, a pod still shoots up, whats that about

[stuck imp]

Ejection jam could be more likely than we think. In the game all works always 100% of the time. In real life those robots would face hell on Earth

And the AI thing, a gameplay artefact

[cedar nexus]

So are they not as keen on preserving human life as I thought?

[jade hare]

Idk what happened after but Ash is in space with Team B and Iskra is... Lost I think?

[cedar nexus]

Whats team B?

[jade hare]

[stuck imp]

Humans would still be to be saved, but accidents happen. Bad luck, fate, technical malfunctions, call that whatever you want, but even the means to save a pilot's life can fail. It is never said somewhere that being a pilot was an easy job

[jade hare]

WR's voice based story about a team of pilots

It's on youtube

[cedar nexus]

Im sorry im new to the lore! I used to play a ton before titans even came out, but im just now returning

I remember when stalker was cool…

[jade hare]

Also who the ... changed Marie Leclair's lore page?

[jade hare]

It's ok

[cedar nexus]

Back in my day, we didn’t have any fancy pilots or titans

[jade hare]

And why do we have an Iskra page again

[cedar nexus]

Just a couple of griffins and maybe a gareth

[jade hare]

Killroy is doing stuff without telling me

Atleast tell me that you are changing the template or something

So I can help or something

[ancient forum]

I believe so considering what happened to Roberto.

[ancient forum]

That should be an effect in WR. (The status effect reverses or inverts controls.)

[cedar nexus]

They oughta make karna and arjuna robots, the sons of indra

Arjuna would be a sniper with some sort of big damage thing, but also a glass cannon as he can move fast (in hinduism he has a large bow and a chariot)

Karna would be more mid ranged suitable, with maybe an alternate long range fire (in hinduism he has a spear)

[jade hare]

1. This is not #player-game-ideas
2. They should make Rama too

[cedar nexus]

Ooh i didnt know that was a channel

[jade hare]

They made one

[cedar nexus]

Neat

[jade hare]

You don't know the channel but you texted there before

[cedar nexus]

I thought that was the lore channel

Its weird whatever

[jade hare]

This is the lore channel and that one is for game ideas

[cedar nexus]

Ok

[stuck imp]

Game ideas channel has a very long cooldown, so be sure to write down clearly your idea. Or edit your message if you missed something

[cedar nexus]

Okey, ill copy my message in this channel into the one i sent there

[jade hare]

Markus is made by Anna

[snow crypt]

question is if Anna has a family

[jade hare]

The only thing we can do is wait for 8.5 now

[boreal sedge]

I kneww itt

[snow crypt]

who hires a news reporter to write anna’s bio?

[boreal sedge]

She must be that rich 😂

[snow crypt]

could have just straight up interviewed her

so how would you guys go about explaining the Rust and Fragility Effects? @jade hare @stuck imp

[jade hare]

I still don't know what they do 😅

[jade hare]

Knew what? 🤔

[boreal sedge]

That Anna is related to Vlad Țepeș

I thought that with you I talked before lol

[jade hare]

I mean yeah, she is a vampire

[snow crypt]

the Rust effect causes something to take increasing damage depending on number of stacks, the Fragility effect decreases the effectiveness of healing for the robot, depending on number of stacks. Both effects can be accumulated by Jaw, Claw and Talon.

The Rust effect effectively counters Damage Resistance and the Fragility effect negates any kind of passive healing that a robot may have.

[jade hare]

Fragility is kinda like a virus I think and Rust is some kind of material that makes the robot's armor more vulnerable. Like actually making the metal rusty or something like that

[snow crypt]

hmm

[jade hare]

Like lockdown is a virus too just like suppression

Freeze is... Well freeze. It freezes the metal so it breaks more easily

EMP is EMP

Blind is a virus too

What other effects we have? 🤔

Corrosion is another material or liquid that eats the metal like acid or something like that

[snow crypt]

the lockdown and blind don't have to be viruses

they could simply overload a component of the system to cause a temporary shutdown of that component

[jade hare]

Same thing

[snow crypt]

i don't think there are any more negative effects we are missing

[jade hare]

The only thing that matters is that it's software based, not hardware based like corrosion or freeze

[snow crypt]

well anyways

now we got another group of mercenaries. So lets see, Yaga Gang vs Clyde's Crew vs Anna's Servants, who would win?

[cedar nexus]

Clydes crew 💯

[snow crypt]

to be more specific, Yaga Gang has Revenants, Fafnirs and most likely zmej murometz. Clyde's Crew has Mars, Kraken Indra and Anna's people have Gothic Mars, Angler and maybe other robots given her influence.

[cedar nexus]

Clydes crew doesnt have seraph?

[snow crypt]

no

[cedar nexus]

Did i misread the lore? I thought they freed victoria from the dsa prison and gave her a seraph or smth

[snow crypt]

in this context, we are talking about robots that are specific to that group

so yaga gang has Teremok Revenants, Hohloma Fafnirs. While Clyde has Barong Mars and Kraken Indra

[cedar nexus]

Oooh ok, like the ones they developed

[snow crypt]

or customized to some extent, though Kate could be piloting a seraph but we wouldn't know for sure.

[cedar nexus]

But they probably have a few random other things, right? Like the occasional natasha

Is Unknown Seraph not clyde?

[snow crypt]

no, it's kind of its own thing, you could make the assumption that it was made for Victoria but that's not concrete.

[jade hare]

I don't think so

[snow crypt]

unknown seraph falls into the broader spectrum that includes all things themed towards Halloween.

[jade hare]

Also at this point we could do Team B, Drew's team, Thomas/Samael/Johny trio, Scavengers, Marie/Victoria team and more

[snow crypt]

lets make a list then

[jade hare]

Put every pilot into groups and make a ffa

REDACTED Twins too

[snow crypt]

well anna will have to get paired up with Thomas, Samael, Johnny, Soren (maybe), Stanislav (maybe)...

[jade hare]

Why always Stanislav?

[snow crypt]

he was labelled as a criminal i believe by dsc

we can put most pilots into 6 teams according to faction, a sixth team for those who did not come from a faction initially.

[jade hare]

He was forced to work at a job that he didn't liked so he wanted to escape and then the Control Committee saw him as a bad guy but he isn't one tho

Yeah he sold robots illegally but that's it

The TSJ trio are worse I think

And Soren is with Nian

Also now that I read Stanislav's story, I could put his name into my fanmade stories 🤔

"Stanislav found himself locked up in a top-secret lab working on yet another tedious government project"

Let's move to our next topic:

Why does DSC have the REDACTED Twins when they are clearly an Evolife creation? 🤔

We will discuss this tomorrow. Until that, try to think about it and come up with multiple ideas

[stuck imp]

I must agree that Evolife is legitimate to lead such a project, having the genetic genius and decades of experiments on their side.
However, it could make sense for DSC to want more efficient soldiers : this can go through training, life conditions (we know their food is made of military diet), equipment (recently DSC proved to use very advanced tech), and biological manipulation. Although DSC are not experts at this, they certainly have biology specialists in their ranks ; and given enough funding, everything can happen.
The fact that the Redacted Twins escaped can be a proof of failure of this project : after being injected the serum in experimental conditions, they became unstable over time and began to diverge from DSC's model of righteousness.
Apparently DSC is using a lot of foreign technologies recently, and trying a lot of new things in general, compared to a few years ago. And it doesn't surprise me that there are failures here and there : mastering Reflector and Teleportation on a single machine series is already a technical prowess, given they have zero background on war machines ; considering a certain lack of biological expertise, the failure of the Twins seems right to me.

From my point of view, DSC is rushing to use new technologies, whatever the cost. Although Spacetech has done major breakthroughs from the development of Hawk, the other Factions take a little bit more time to advance in comparison : Icarus is just beginning to innovate with Skyros, Evolife remains globally with the same techs except for the upcoming Angler, and Yan-Di could be considered as experts in reverse-engineer rather than mastering a tech tree (outside of Stealth, which they own). For now, DSC may be the Faction with the most diverse technologies used on their robots, picking here and there on what resembles a "tech pool" to their eyes.

[snow crypt]

quite literally Mr. worldwide in a sense. What we don't see enough of is collaboration projects.

[jade hare]

I mean the serum could have been made by Evolife:

"Subject group XC-1717 was injected with the modified XC-2 Series serum developed by [DATA EXPUNGED] as part of the [DATA EXPUNGED] project."

Another question, who could this person be:

"[REDACTED] has been designated as the process of returning samples and further neutralizing them."

Also another creation of DSC is River Chase. He was made by Evolife but then DSC stole it and made her into a monster

[snow crypt]

well dsc probably have their own scientists, it just so happens that they don't have such a large number of them specializing in one field like evolife does.

that person could easily be anyone from the science department in dsc

and just about any self respecting scientist with funds can create drugs of various kinds, experimental included, and this isn't limited to just one faction given how universal this technology could be. Obviously each faction has varying levels of expertise and application for this tech, but still.

[stuck imp]

Fox Matroska is right for me : adding to the fact that the serum was a failure is a sign of non-expertise 🤔 Still this didn't stop DSC when they noticed that they were losing grip on the Twins.
Evolife could have done something more successful, thanks to their mastery, and we can only assume that Evolife has the knowledge to do that (maybe they already did that for their pilots and we never knew)

It's like almost all Factions know the Aegis in a certain way, or how I imagine all colonies having hydroponic plants (patented Evolife, or homemade). Through reverse-engineering nothing is a secret anymore, something Yan-Di loves to put in practice

[snow crypt]

it just depends on each faction's preference, we haven't even seen everything that can be offered by each faction.

[jade hare]

Imagine what would happen if we could fire at ejection pods. If you could destroy one then the person who wanted to spawn down the next bot couldn't do it.

I know this doesn't make sense because a new bot has a new pilot but what if?

[abstract flare]

This is what would happen

[jade hare]

Yes, exactly

But to achive this effect you would need to fire at someone's ejection pod

[devout current]

i meant if the metal parts are affixed to the pod well enough

like really stuck on there and cannot be pulled off

would the entire pod get vacuumed

@jade hare

[jade hare]

I don't think so. I mean magnetic weapons can literally tear a metal bar (1 piece) into 2 pieces. That's how strong they are

[devout current]

damn

wait theseus is mostly a cyborg right

would the magnets affect him

[jade hare]

I knew you would bring cyborgs up...

Well...

[devout current]

now what about appmeter

im too lazy to remember the numbers in his name

[jade hare]

-1 leg or arm...

APPM-3TR

[devout current]

i thought theseus had his entire body except his spleen replaced

His only remaining organic parts were his head, heart, left lung and oddly enough, his spleen,

nvm

[jade hare]

The ejection pod is too fast to do any harm to the pilot so if the weapons can tear all the parts of the pod down then they still can't hurt the pilot. Maybe they will lose an arm or leg but that's it. The pods escape so fast from the weapons's range that they can't make serious harm to the pilots

[devout current]

yeah that kind of makes sense

now what if the ejection pod went off underneath the bot

[jade hare]

That can't happen tho 🤔

[devout current]

i was in my skyros earlier and i rolled a luchador and got beneath his feet

[jade hare]

Oh, like that

[devout current]

then i got teamed on and noticed my ejection pod going through him

[jade hare]

Well, your ejection pod became a giant bullet and went through the Lucha

Imagine killing someone's bot like that

[devout current]

kamikaze

if the bot was fragile enough like a destrier it would probably die from the pod

[jade hare]

Yeah

[devout current]

that concludes my lore session for today

ima go think up more questions for tomorrow

[jade hare]

Ok, have fun 👋

I will just continue thinking about this topic

And wait till Fox or Lézard comes here

[devout current]

wait a minute are there pilots for titans

yang lee lore says he dreams of piloting titans right

[jade hare]

Pilots for titans are us Commanders (the players)

[devout current]

does this mean yang lee is gonna break the fourth wall

[jade hare]

Maybe

We talked about this whole titan pilot thing a lot

[devout current]

this is now #wr theories

[jade hare]

It always has been

#1004784741645566034 and Theories

[devout current]

epic

[jade hare]

So... What happenes when an ejection pod is fired from a bot when another bot is above the other bot? 🤔

If the robot is fragile enough it can go through it making a hole in it that kills the bot.

If the robot is a bit tougher like Fenrir or Bulwark then the ejection pod would slam into it doing some damage to the bot and then continue flying with a different angle. Like instead of | it flies /.

If the robot is even tougher like Luchador or Sharanga then the ejection pod would stuck into the titan or fall to the ground leaving the pilot on the battlefield. From there he/she can just run away or hide like Linda did in Team B.

[devout current]

that opens up another lane for me

could a pilot or saboteur attach themselves to the bot

and somehow drill into its inner workings

[jade hare]

Yeah, why not

But it wouldn't be that common

[devout current]

it would be risky

[jade hare]

Yeah, too risky

[jade hare]

Why does this currency have a description while the other ones don't? 🤔

[stuck imp]

Because they are so expensive and not self-explanatory that those tokens need a description 🤔 "Upgrade Token" is very blurry as a currency, compared to "Platinum" or "Gold" which are obvious rare metals used as currency

[jade hare]

Name it Crystal

[stuck imp]

It could be a derived product of your Exogems

[jade hare]

That's what I wanted to say...: Also upgrade tokens are similar to Exogem 👀

They look similar, their purpose is similar

[stuck imp]

They could those Exogem shards which are created during the manufacturing process : recycled into low-capacity databanks, only used a single-use currency for expensive purposes 🤔

Something that has more value than Gold

[jade hare]

Let's just say it's a type of Exogem. Idk exactly now what type but they belong to the same thing

[stuck imp]

If we need to pick something, the "recycled shards" theory seems nice 🤔 After all, this material is so rare, it would be a shame to waste it. Using "useless" shards as small currency units is an idea : too small and/or imperfect to serve as an Exogem, still powerful enough to become a Crystal currency

[jade hare]

I'm thinking of human made artificial Exogem or pure Exogem. Or the opposite...

Imperfect Exogem shards seems good to me

[stuck imp]

Creating an artificial Exogem from studying the natural structure is a viable theory, but this would imply that we have the ways to manufacture this mineral. Which is not obviously true

[jade hare]

Let's just stick with the imperfect leftover Exogem shards

[stuck imp]

And Crystal currency seems good ? Or you have a better name idea ?

[torn spoke]

whatvthe heck is exogems?

[jade hare]

[jade hare]

What was the other name that we came up with? 🤔
Let me find it...

[stuck imp]

Basically : it's the theory we imagined with ATOM here about the potentially new currency that can buy anything, that was planned by Pixonic (I don't have the name right away, it's the cube thing). A gem so rare that it would be worth anything you want. With data carefully encoded deep inside its core, a task only Icarus knows the secrets about, the cristal base is a mineral from the space. A cristal that humans cannot synthetize with the current technology, and with an internal structure allowing to easily encode data, as well as being basically impossible to hack without the right socket. The data inside is what is worth a deal, but the gem itself is an extremely rare object, and usually both are looked for. Some people want the crystal, others want the data

[torn spoke]

currency that can buy anything? isnt that the credit/debit card?

[jade hare]

Exogem

[stuck imp]

I was vainly searching of we mentionned that image

[jade hare]

Terregem? 🤔
Or Terragem?
Terregem comes from Terrestrial and Terragem comes from the word Terra

Lézard left the chat...

[boreal sedge]

Cuboid? Hexahedron?

[jade hare]

But it's a pyramid 🤔
Not really a pyramid. What's it called 🤔

[boreal sedge]

Cube

[jade hare]

No, not that

A pyramid which has a triangle as a base

[stuck imp]

Yeah I am playing WR right now

Grinding Platinum, how ironic when talking about a currency

[jade hare]

I have 2100 pt so I'm good

It's a tetrahedron

[boreal sedge]

But why would you name a cube as a tetrahedron?

[jade hare]

We are talking about this tho

[boreal sedge]

Or that currency you re talking about is a made up currency?

[jade hare]

This is called Gem but we named it Exogem

[boreal sedge]

ohhh, upgrade token seem fine to me - more self explanatory tbh

[jade hare]

I want a more unique name for it

[boreal sedge]

But Tetrahedron sounds super awesome ngl

[jade hare]

I think Terragem sounds good since the other one is named Exogem after Exoplanets

They are the same thing actually just smaller. Like how a weapon family has 3 weapons in it

Terragem, Exogem and ...

[stuck imp]

I see one problem here : naming "Terragem" a byproduct of an Exogem specifically named because it comes from outside of Earth 🤔 sounds kinda weird. I doesn't have a stronger link to Earth ("Terra") than the Exogem (which comes from space)

Terragem as a name has a certain style, but I don't see the meaning of it

[torn spoke]

ok

let me think of a decent name

cubon

[jade hare]

Then what about Terregem? It sounds weirder but it's meaning is kinda the same as Exogem's

Terrestrial

[jade hare]

It's still a tetrahedron tho...

[torn spoke]

oh, i did not see thatvthe cube has edges

[jade hare]

The cube shaped gem is called Exogem but we have the upgrade tokens which are tetrahedron shaped

Lézard is playing again...

[torn spoke]

ok ok, the uograde tokens are the tectrahedron and what about the exogems?

meaning that tge tectrahedron is soen sort of pyramid?

[boreal sedge]

@stuck imp how does it come that you haven't asked for image permissions yet? 🤔

[jade hare]

I think he did or we did it instead of him but he never got it

[stuck imp]

Oh simply because I don't see the use of it as I listed only a few exceptions where it would have been handy to have the perms. I am not the kind of person to post images here and there

[torn spoke]

you can use gif

[snow crypt]

you guys trying to name the upgrade token?

[stuck imp]

I think I never asked 🤔 Stop to false rumors please

[jade hare]

The exogems are the Gems which are only available in some countries

[jade hare]

Ok, you never did but we did it instead of you

[boreal sedge]

Respectable

Tbh, you have more than enough messages and they're high quality

You should ask a PK though when you want to get them

[jade hare]

Yes

[stuck imp]

I'm not very active anyways outside of Lore thread. It's the only thing that basically retains me on this server. All the things I loved here vanished one after another. The players-idea channel is nice, though I know we won't be listened by the devs, and the slowmode doesn't allow for much of interaction. Posting the concepts here is almost better to have instant feedback

[torn spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-mickey-mouse-okay-good-gif-23267548

[jade hare]

Do we even need to name the upgrade tokens? I mean Exogem is just the material itself and if we use the imperfect, lefover Exogems then it still going to be an Exogem 🤔

[torn spoke]

brad

[snow crypt]

we could call it a blueprint exogem

[torn spoke]

Ugems sounds nice

[snow crypt]

since its only purpose is for upgrading

[stuck imp]

Ugems 🤔

[jade hare]

So you guys still want to name it something

[snow crypt]

or should we move onto its construction?

[stuck imp]

They're mini-Exogems and a currency on their own, they deserve a name on their own.
Exogems for very important business, those small gems for "minor" tasks such as custom enhancements for robots made by one of the few specialists somewhere

[torn spoke]

Ugems

[snow crypt]

artifact gem

[torn spoke]

Agem

[jade hare]

Upgrade tokens and Gems are the same thing but the Gems are more valuable. Exogem is just the material that we are using to make Upgrade tokens and Gems. We use pure/perfect Exogems for Gems and imperfect Exogems for Upgrade tokens

[torn spoke]

my brain now starts to hurt

now i cant came up with nore name

[snow crypt]

or just make the impure exogems into another variant that is more specialized than the pure exogem

[jade hare]

If you really want to name it then name it Terregem after Terrestrial planets. Exogem is named after Exoplanets

[snow crypt]

terragem

ok

[jade hare]

No, it's not good enough for Lézard

If you write it with "a"

It has a different meaning if you write it with "a"

[snow crypt]

fine

[jade hare]

I will stick with this theory but I will sometimes mention Terregems if you guys really want it

[snow crypt]

well anyways

come up with lore for this

its an ai controlled titan

[jade hare]

Gray robots evolved and merged to create this thing

Gray robots's AI evolved one day and they wanted to become stronger so they went to the Factory map where they connected themselves to the factory and they began to make this machine out of other robot parts

[stuck imp]

Firstly : it's a machine created from makeshift materials. First models may have been built from scratch with scrapyard components, then following models used more refined parts but kept a distinctive form of the n°1 model.

[jade hare]

Yan-di's new titan on the roleplay server 🤡

[snow crypt]

ok

[jade hare]

I really need to protect myself, the scavengers and the Earthlings from Yan-di if they want to reclaim Earth

[snow crypt]

its actual name is Colossus

[jade hare]

@stuck imp we need custom robots too

[jade hare]

Imagine Yan-di coming to Earth to reclaim it but you say no so they call that thing and then it slowly walks in

https://tenor.com/bG4ec.gif

Like this

[snow crypt]

that gives me an idea

[jade hare]

It's intimidating dude

[snow crypt]

yan-di creates its first automated invasion force

[stuck imp]

Don't worry, I have some on their way. Icarus doesn't lack ideas

[jade hare]

Well... Earthlings have those bots that I showed you and Scavengers have... Well... Every robot comined with each other in every possible way

And the Sandships too (I really need to name those things better)

[snow crypt]

desert hovercraft

[jade hare]

Sandship

A moving city for scavengers

[stuck imp]

The problem with custom machines is that we should avoid a monstrous power creep compared to standard machines from WR universe 🤔 If we end up needing custom machines to compete, then newbies in the roleplay will be completely lost

[jade hare]

I only use balanced things

[stuck imp]

I don't speak only for you, but in general

[jade hare]

Rayker with 5 negative effect 🤡

[snow crypt]

i think the colossus is balanced

[stuck imp]

Well it has some guns apparently

[jade hare]

Put it's description on the roleplay server

[snow crypt]

where

[stuck imp]

General, or player concepts

[jade hare]

I need to do that thing with the Earthling robots too

[stuck imp]

The latter will allow to keep a solid trace of it

[jade hare]

But I will do that later because I'm going to sleep now

So bye guys! 👋

[snow crypt]

goodnight

[stuck imp]

Good night

[torn spoke]

hey ive seen that before

[cedar nexus]

That a new thing?

[jade hare]

Yep

[cedar nexus]

Aw man, I hope it aint too hard to get

[jade hare]

Well. Idek how you can get it yet

Maybe when the new event comes

[marble ingot]

How exactly does stealth work in the lore? is it only effective against robot targetting systems, or does it affect living beings, similar to the SCP-5000 "Exclusion Harness" which makes it so while you can still be seen, you can't be perceived (ie people can see you but they don't know they can see you so you're effectively invisible, kinda complicated but theres a whole story about it i totally reccomend) - https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-5000

[jade hare]

I think it's only effective against the targeting system

[stuck imp]

The most realistic way would be a signal jammer that prevents digital targeting systems from finding your signature. Manual aiming still works as the robot remains visible. also the reason why manual aiming is not in the game lmao

[stuck imp]

And in our roleplays I used an optical camouflage system, much more advanced (clears both digital signature and optical sight) but that is reliant on a perfect surface state to work : typically, once the object (robot, vehicle, human suit) gets damaged, the system will stop working almost entirely. Unlike Stealth that can work up to critical stages as long as the Stealth generator is working 🤔

[jade hare]

Shoo, nobody cares about roleplay here 🤡

Also this suit reminds me of the invisible man movie. He had a suit with cameras I think and displays that created a perfect invisible surface on it's body

This one

[devout current]

if arnav has multiple arms which makes it easier to pilot a bot

could there be a team of pilots in one bot to maximize its potential

[jade hare]

Not really. A whole team can't fit into a robot

There's no space and seat for them

[devout current]

sad

wait what about the twins

im obsessed with pilots

[jade hare]

Twins pilot their own robots. The orange one pilots Harpy and the blue one pilots Siren

[devout current]

welp

[jade hare]

Anna has an Indra 💀

[stuck imp]

I don't even see Titans having a crew of multiple pilots 🤔 No need for more than one pilot outside of mechanics and engineers

[jade hare]

I mean we never said there's a crew inside titans. Just us, Commanders

Also, Anna is either a Commander or has a Commander friend because he has an Indra. Also Clyde too 🤔

[stuck imp]

Yeah but as you brought the question of multiple pilots, here is my point of view on Titans

[jade hare]

Titans have only 1 pilot but it has a Commander rank

[devout current]

but if did had multiple pilots would they be able to focus more on certain aspects

kind of like in pacific rim

[jade hare]

Yeah

This is like when you play the game with 4 fingers instead of 2

Arnav has 4 arms so he can do more things

[stuck imp]

To need multiple pilots, the machines need to be larger and less practical. Those war machines have been designed to be simple to drive, but a land fortress would need a crew to control the vehicle, it's guns, maybe some radar or something. War Robots and Titans have all benefits to he automated on those points

[devout current]

my point exactly

[devout current]

what if they made a titan with a much larger cockpit

[jade hare]

I mean there can be more people in 1 titan but only 1 controls it

[stuck imp]

Even with a larger cockpit, if all functions can be managed by 1 pilot, there is no need to add more

[jade hare]

Can we talk about Anna's Indra now?

[stuck imp]

Ah you want your Indra don't you ? 😏

Alright

[jade hare]

Wai... Wha..? I had the chance to get an Indra but I didn't lived with it 🗿

But how does that come here now? 🤔

[stuck imp]

Bruh. Misunderstanding at its finest Let's talk about Anna then

[jade hare]

Where did she get it?

[stuck imp]

Credit card

[cedar nexus]

I mean thats where you’d have to get it

Or youd have to get on that hella grind

[jade hare]

Black Market is the place where you can buy things and not with credit card

Also you can do other things like stealing, making deals, exchanging stuff

Doing illegal things

Clyde got it from... Where did he got it from actually? 🤔
I know he got it from somewhere but I forgot it 💀

He tricked someone or something

[stuck imp]

Anna certainly has some network acquaintances, you can't get your hands on a Titan that easily even if you have the money for it 🤔

[jade hare]

So he got the Kraken Indra

Anna is a rich person

Cough Yan-di member cough

[stuck imp]

money

Also influence

[jade hare]

Terregem 🤡

[stuck imp]

Seems right for her to have a Titan huh

[jade hare]

And how did she crawled into it from her Mars? 🤔
Or did she spoke from outside somewhere?

[devout current]

if she's the richest yan di business woman it makes sense that they would run the prototypes by her

[jade hare]

I think she's not the richest tho

[devout current]

i checked #📢│wr-updates and it did say she was richest

[jade hare]

I mean she's lonely so she built Markus. She's living in her big Romanian castle and stuff like that

[jade hare]

Who was that?

[devout current]

anna basarab

shredder sent out that one

[stuck imp]

Oh are you sure about Markus ? 🤔According to what I understood she grabbed Markus who became her companion. Or I missed a capital proof

[devout current]

#📢│wr-updates message

they said markus was from a scrapyard

i don't think anna is the type to go through scraps to make a bot

[stuck imp]

Also according to what I understood, Markus was sold at some point after being put out of scrap 🤔 I need to find again the basis of my arguments, but I wouldn't be so sure now for either theory

[jade hare]

Scavenged from the scrapyard. Pixonic said it

[devout current]

yup

pixonic's word is law

[stuck imp]

cough Reflector technology we freely adapted to be more accurate cough

[devout current]

reflector go brr don't question it

why doesn't leech have a reflector though

i just thought about it

[stuck imp]

Leech is old, Reflector is new. And thinking of it, the Leech system is not exactly a Reflector as it redirects all incoming damage to the same target, what a Reflector doesn't do

[devout current]

reflector linked to one person then

[stuck imp]

Problem is, Reflector doesn't link either 🤔

[devout current]

special reflector?

[stuck imp]

And according to Ksiro's definition of Reflector ||cough||, it is unlikely that it could do what you expect 🤔 But in pure gameplay, the Resilience could be replaced by a Reflector with a legendary pilot that would make all others useless

[devout current]

damn

im new to lore

[jade hare]

@devout current
When Leech links to a bot then it hacks into it while activating resistance. When the Leech receives damage it stores it's data and then sends it to the linked robot while the resistance reduces the damage that the Leech receives.

Reflector (based on Ksiro's texts) is a cloud of nanobots around the robot which protects the robot while firing back with their tiny weapons. The nanobots can't block all damage so that's why robots with reflector still receives some damage

Also @stuck imp