#💬grow-chat
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Congrats!
w we both moyais
tyvm moyai lover
Who can give me a bgl
any event in gt?
back to work 🙏🏼
Please direct ads to trade channels
w ella

nah just Voucher Dayz, next week val
Jona give u
will golden items rise or drop during val
lunar new year is just a myth huh
its in like two weeks
lny should be 19th this year
Ask him
dam mb gng
when bgl
Who sells royal scarf of chainssss
@elfin sapphire is now Level 2!
💔
Gasgas
tho ill lose that 1 bgl aswell so whatever
sir i got no bgls 😔
in 2026 no bgls 💔
bagel
😇
i got 98wls to my name
rich
🍺
Broo who has royall scarf of chainss let me buy 😭
server down??? why cant i join
broooo i cant join the f-- game
ubisoft where are better servers
fr
i literally have error connecting
oh lol
and ofc everything else works
so its growtopia's fault
who wouldve thought
broooooooooooooooooooo
just play another game 🥲
i wanted to harvest my trees bro
maybe try to play with a diff network, could be IP related
k lemme try
Yo where can i buy tokens at ?
Use trade channels please
yeah no its not ip related, this game is s---
i wont cuss cus im probably gonna get muted
what kind of tokens?
Locke bot ones
I am asking for any world that got locke
growtokens?
Ye
BUYDQ got it i think
you can find a lock-bot in BUYDQ or WRENCH
i got d spade ye, that's why im saving up for p trident now
i want usefull items
im auction, if i get outbidded do i get my wls back
Game still broken
Cek dm me
nobody can help if you don't explain your issue
Rainbow cloud 🏳️🌈
yes
I chat here, I can't get a violation, so I chat privately
hi
did you get suspended and you want to appeal it?
See how confident I am
It’s 100% sussypension
This economy bro 😭
with what
Magplant worth a liver transplant now, it wasn’t even that expensive back then
fr
you guys think magplant and growscan will rise after valen
Hmuch is growscan and mag rn
they will keep on rising 0% of them dropping
unless the whole economy crashes
well i mean
i dont mean rising in general i mean like spike in price
since people were selling items for cheaper before valen to get pures
ok
No
yes
Anyone know the going rate for time-space ruptures rn?
maybe
I see someone selling 2wls per and one selling 3wls per time-space
Idk which one is the going rate for it tho, don't wanna overprice crap and get no sales
Game still broken
who sells hypertech mk III items?
Buy megaphone
@oblique folio is now Level 2!
buying lobster quest
No you r just playing Growtopia. Its normal and you should be used to it
IS THIS GROWTOPIA ECONOMY BUBBLE OR ITS AN ACTUAL INFLATION?
reddit buzzwords bubble
buy level
its been around since tulip bubbles, read a book
im lvl 79 need to go upto 125
i don't know how to read
go to BUYLEVEL
i can tell bro
You can tell approximately or accurately 
When lunar? Anyone know
within the next 2 weeks
yo Jona create a new GT for us rq
Kk soon™
c++
💔
c# 💔
They should fix the game
cheers lad
Error connection every second
I was in then when it gets 22:30 for my time the servers go down
😔 💔
Still same cant enter
Where to buy fishtank? Chand?
#🤝trade-blocks probably there
I meant worlds
Bruh need valentine to be like tmr
Try searching
I'm a returning player after like 2-3 years
There is no buy+ anymore all dead
Buyfishtank? Buyfhand
Tried.
go 66vend for chand
Tried that. World is inaccessible
Ngl all buy world is dead
Ty. I'll keep in mind
use ”TheLostNemo” discord server to find too if cant here
Thank you
No problem
This server does not even have a channel for report issue to fix em asap💔
Did server down?
how do i get super supporter / recycling without paying. I remember back in the days u could get super supporter features for free
Vorp
So ye! What's up guys?
Cant anymore
I love u yall
use mychips (the "earn free gems" option in the store)
HIRING ADMINS IN::
Nubsv2s
We need a powerful admin team that wants to held build the world (almost done) and wants to bring joy to the players
(DEPO IS 50DLS) VERY CHEAP!
If you love Growtopia for the social community this is a good opportunity!
We will sb almost everyday when world is done!
PM ME IF YOUR INTERRSTED
Hello if any of u have any surg tools that dont need or dont use wold u like to drop them at profsv it wold help me alot thank u all
whats the price of heavenly scythe anybody knows?
what is the expected price of gbc during valenitne
what should i invest on with 3 bgl
dont go to exspan world they sell lvl xp but they are scammers
got scammed for 3 bgls in total
at first i got 2 lvls
cahyo redzblue seyxa zatiron reqteams apex
#raurv
what is the expected price of gbc during valenitne
its okay you can trust me
Game is still broken
dude, I told you where to go earlier 😭
i did
Should we all quit Growtopia and play a better game
we all have to migrate to animal jam
what is the expected price of gbc during valenitne
Idk what that is but it’s probably better. Probably doesn’t not let you play every other day
idk
totalyly
yes
what is the expected price of gbc during valenitne
I know the answer to that question ^
@last pulsar is now Level 6!
what is the price for winter wishing star now?
ill do it if a mod staying besides me lol
why would you trust a random 😭
cahyo friday tomorrow ❤️
its okay you dont need that
true
omg icy Aox 🐬 🌈 🐬 💖 ✨
i have nobody in game that i can fully trust i just wanted to be lvl 125 im level 82 now
lost 2 3 bgl the mods are active msg them but no response
the scammers are active too
you’ll be able to trust people when you make genuine friends in game, some stranger who you let try your wings are not the same
they are doing sb
i have some friends i trust they do too but i need someone who can help me in xp sht
I think the player is responsible for being scammed, I don’t think it’s a perma ban kind of thing
didn’t someone above say they told you about a world to go to
what?
yes i diddd
idk why they kept insisted when i was doing the xp sht to let me give my wing for him to try
if you’re the one who got scammed then that’s on you, I might need to double check but I’m pretty sure scamming isn’t something that gets you banned
and they talking about trust issue
they kept insisting so they could scam you 😭
not anymore
there’s a reason why there’s a world called STOPDONTDROP
yessss no sht
they changed their policy before they took scamming seriously
now everybody can scam cause they dont fear mods
thats one of the issue that we are having today
this is why i told them i want to pay in several payments for lvls not all in so i wont get fked at the end
but i did get fked
i want to do it alone but its really hard for me
Is going rate for time-space ruptures 2wl?
since my return i got scammed in total of 4 bgls and someone actually gave me 76 dls in here and i thank you for him again
scam is becoming common cause they dont fear mods anymore
the solution to scammers is making sure you don’t get scammed

I agree with that
Imo worst scam atleast from the last time i played was the vend value swap scam
aka say somethings 100/1 but its 100wls each
has it risen? Last time I bought it was selling 1/1, but that might be good for me since I plan on mass producing time rupture lol
yes true but isnt the mods who can make the game better for anybody else otherwise what is the point being a mod then?
I've only seen 2-3wl time space rupture
what are mods doing right now?
those can almost get you sometimes but you just have to be aware, I think a lot of DQ sellers try that lol
annoncing new events and thats it? and wrap for the hole day?
they have other things to handle
what kind of things?
sleeping because its night time for them
im talking in general
Homie you're aware that being angry and complaining is only gonna get you muted most likely, they do work hard its just hard because moderators are not developers
they issue bans and listen to reasonable player messages, (also they have lives), they help unban and I’m sure there’s other things they take care of that I’m unaware of
Theres a difference between the 2
they aren’t responsible for someone being scammed, because your items can’t be brought back and there’s probably a good chance it’s hard to verify whether a scam happened in the first place
buddy im talking about in game not the server issue
i know the difference
and if so many people are irresponsible and let themselves get scammed, why would the mods have time to deal with all of that?
Well developers have a play in that crap too, devs are the ones who unban, mods can't in here, only like 2 of them maybe
Mods forward it to higher ups and they appeal the situation
Nothing more can be done, they try
well a mod can check a player inventory to but hey hope they didnt strip mods power
Guys do u now how can i ,become supporter?
I got scammed in auction 3 bgl
Dude bots are more powerful than mods atp
They can auto leave worlds the second one joins
through either things like tapjoy or buying an in app purchase
Its crazy
yesss i can see that
i became super supporter through tapjoys
u can do it too
save ur money
the section where it says earn free gems
Ill never go auction again. Xd
in shop
and u select a game
and there is objectives that needs to be done in game
Should i play on pc?
Its called tapjoy not clickjoy
I nought 30 dls horn for 3 bgl xd
there are probably better ways of getting an item 💔
Yess
Have you tried buying it from a vending machine?
Learned my lesson.
3 bgls doesn’t fit into a vending machine, the maximum is 2
people keep trying to find new ways to scam
I wanted to test auction
Dudeee, thats so stupid, they need to make a higher capacity vend
Tested it, -270 dls
and mods doing nothing and devs
Like a premium megavend takes up 2x2 but can carry up to 50bgls
I dont got that section
I would better bought station farm
Would make everything better
mods aren’t responsible for your mistakes 😭
Bruh, you're just mad that ubisoft is running the game, thats the real bread and butter
in order to control the game so the scamming wont becomes common
@forest frigate is now Level 8!
Join the party my friend, nobody likes ubisoft but atleast they let the game carry on
Ehh ahit happens. Wanted to save for magplant. Dropped from 14 bgl to 11 bgl
yes they do game carry on
rule number 1 never have friends if they say to u let me try the wings or something remove urself from the world and delete it from ur friend list
no socia interaction in order to not getting scammed
Dude, dont be stupid...
And if you are that stupid make sure you have the wls to replace what you lose
twin some random who scammed your devil wings in a level world is not the same as a friend
rule 3 suck ubisoft
I went every scam thourght in this gamr zd
at what cost tho
I’ve let friends try my items, friends have let me try my items, you just chose the wrong person to trust 😭
well no one scammed my devil wings i didnt gave them idk what u talking about
well its just buying something to make sure i get lvls
Server quality, moderator response time, crossover capacity (there are a lot more crossovers now), etc.
true i trust them they were turks and i speak turkish even tho im not turkish
good vibes etc but at the end
exactly, my point was that ubisoft is indeed keeping GT running but that it's becoming as sh!thole
But we all learn to live with it after awhile, don't worry, you'll become desensitized to the pain
Inflation will go up, third party sites will sell currency for cheap, and the game will slowly fall off
I just feel that if they only put in effort a tiny bit, they'd make this game insanely good at how it somewhat used to be
Until then, I'm here for the ride
they just dont seem to bother
because; server issues, bot issues, inflation issues. But instead of fixxing that they just spam add new items in the hope that users will stay
rumors say they gonna close the game when there is nothing left
They basically dont listen to what the players want or ask
yess im on ur team
If they even just fixed the connection issues people would love it
how to fix ''Oops! You have reached the limit of accounts that can be login from this IP address. Please try again later.'' pls h
all we want is a stable game bro
yesssss so true
when u said that idk u can trigger people in here
soooo fk in annoying
Do u all guys got tapjoys in game?
@lunar fern is now Level 1!
It's fine, I can handle it
yes everyone does
nah, the banner shows but the offers dont show
are you in the US?
Europe
same
check youtube how to become supporter with tapjoys
I haven’t had the tapjoy appear either
its faster for u
im in the netherlands and got the same
So when did appear?
i used to see it when I played years ago
but i haven’t seen it appear in the ui anytime recently
Me too i got supporter once like that but i dont remeber the account
I wouldnt be surprised if they took it out so they could profit more on buying gems
lmao
the ramadan is coming im gonna make sure these mfs wont sleep well in thier dreams and after life
They could just ban people selling world locks, they could sue that primary site because from the start it was against the rules to sell secondhand currency ingame, thus bringing the monetary value of currency back to the game, making ubisoft a bunch of money
Game is still broken
I was locked out all day, just played for 30 mins now, locked out again
Daily allotted 30 mins playtime
it will be out the app store
only u and I can save the game
What are we gonna do? We should get gabe newell
He can call his steam swat team to take out the bgl sellers
oh and also, they shouldve rollbacked.
idc that its 3-4 months, atleast the economy wouldve stayed stable
Dude, I think the game needs a clean slate
agreed
No rollback, a fresh reset
All the rollback blocks gone, a fresh growtopia
And start slowly introducing old items
This game is actually bad
I found the solution
you have to go into options, go to “data sharing preferences”, and turn on all of them
anyone know when valentine week starts?
doesnt work for me, the banneris still empty
when is the valentine guys
Im so close to done with my mass, got black blocks, purple blocks, portcullis, house entrances, and note blocks
Bout 2 days from finishing it just cuz of the time it takes to grow but im exciteddd
No server is not down try log out close the game and log in
try it multiple times
misthios pls stop banning me
mistletoe says stop ban evading
World Name REALLYNEW is rare?
no
so i was thinking of using a thermo blast but i accidentally joined the world name i was going to use and I want that specific name is there a way to still clear the world without having to do it manually?
Anyone sell lgrid seed
I’ve got 4k dropped if needed
4/1?
you can use the thermo on a world that isn't created already and then use a change of address
Thanks
I have exact 10dls with 12 wls haha
cahyo redzblue seyxa zatiron reqteams apex thegamerzred
#raurv
Sorry I would do 3.5/1
where is everybody in the game now? i used to play it 8 years ago and every world was full
quit
Some world are still full... of bots 
they deadass should add a captcha
need lvl 10 to open ticket?
what happened to are you human tests
So ye!
free bgls dm me
Economy so bad we got mans giving free bgls away
I wonder if it comes with a free account hacking
crazy
sell airvent rate 40/1
sell airvent rate 40/1
sell airvent rate 40/1
sell airvent rate 40/1
sell airvent rate 40/1
sell airvent rate 40/1
let’s find out!
where where 👀
last night a random onwer just casually giving away 50dls 😭
how rich are they wtf
that's like my entire networth 💔
some people have 1600+ bgls
- all of their items
i only held 2bgls dude 😭
me in my dream
FRRR I EVEN DREAM HAVIN RAYMAN
legit or nau
so real
yes
dead serious I know someone in a server I’m in who had shown 1600 bgls
bro didnt forget that dream
Peak dream
maybe uzxi
the dream will come true one day
that's all I remember from 2021
who?
uzxi feet
I did that! But im not rich
thank you for everything you’ve done garp ❤️
im not complaining but why do people host dice games a lot
Growtopian Garp Day when
Did I even give you anything???
rng style
basically just luck
no, but I’ve seen you donate to a lot of others
you’re very kind so thank you garp 
To get players in there world
fossil scam
-# the fossils can't be that good
not a scam if you win the dice game ❤️
they are like what 2-3wls for a polished version
Not really cause they mostly give prices like bgl
ik im just jokin around
is fossil scam still meta?
You're next
No one wants fossil cause it's just few wls
I just got very scared before I realized the context 😭
Is that a threat
#bringbackfossilscam
Not at all
how about the convoluting amount of links around the game 💀
Garp gets their donate funds by selling growtopian body parts
polished fossils are a dl each
I’m next 😭
I want comet scam
👀
elite ball knowledge
what changed damn
I'm gonna sell him my lungs soon cause I'm bout to be broke
I want comet weather 🥹 it’s like night at it’s best
everything has gone up in price
@leaden phoenix you're going to be the last person I donate to for awhile
Send the world with dono
it’s fine!! you can save it for someone else
why tho 😭
don’t burn yourself out, I don’t really know what I’d do with a donation right now
tysm though
even chandeliers are expensive like
hi grow chat
hiii
Lemme keep it in my donation box
Well darn, ill get you one way or another
I have methods
we wish you luck garp
Ill do bad things if you won't let me donate you
one day karma will come to haunt you and you will be showered in immense wealth
Garp no 😭
don’t host a dirt game!!
Oh, I was thinking more severe things
I had a feeling
you will be alright garp
save the donation for someone else, genuinely ❤️
I can get on
Yay
what world do you want me to join?
Garps
added!!
@tribal iris <t:2085872400:R> watch your back
what did he do 😭
he might own a debt 💔
dang i put too much trust to a certain person and because he was good to me until i wake up and open gt and i see he remove me as a friend and stole what he borrow to me ggs
we been sharing items 2weeks until he betray me kinda sad
@earnest moth Googley Eyed Moyai
World wont even be around that long
Every unc now will be ancient dust
people are EVIL
PUREE GREED
fishing hat
,, uh yeah.
I think people knew what I meant
morning people
Morning fluf
Nice meons
Whats a full chand farm worth
worth
Dear eli
Sir why Patrick flying while doing..
for (ipban = 1; player <= wir; stat++) {suspended}
growtopia.system.login(true);
disconnect.player().single;
};
@muted elm is now Level 20!
Nooo
wow the website for growtopia world planner by tommyhub is down
Cuz u exist
ow shoot
seems like their hosting expired
where i can design for my world "femboygothauction"
Is that gtps?
sad news ig
I'll start 1 bgl
website for designers
Aw man
guys, i cant login my account because i dont receive the verification email, and the support dont send me message. what can i do?
i did it. i waited for 1 month already and re-chat support 4 times with 3 different emails
who is eli?
Oh wow
It's a joke actually
Try chat mods then
In dm discord
i tried miu at first, because she answered me in the forum, but she dont answer me on discord lol
@willow veldt is now Level 1!
im gonna try the other mods too
Kk, goodluck bro
thanks bro
buy all chand seed rate 200/350
anyone know where to check for prices? is thrre a dc server for it
discord search features exist
but beware of manip tho
any1 have aquatic volcanic pauldrons
I want to know if it exists
search on wikia or smth
is googling a difficult skill?
ahahhaha lmao
@pale hatch is now Level 3!
Growtopian having skill issue with searching jie
did you have a difficult time finding the trading channels too? 🤨
why are you chatting them with different emails? they will email you on the email that’s linked to YOUR GrowID
none of the moderators can help considering they are not support and don’t have the tools to help you

yeah, sometimes someppl didnt promotion in their own channel
like yourself

I chatted with the email that's linked to my growid, but don't have response. So I tried with other emails to try get anything
so i ask in here bruh lmao
if you contact them with other emails, they won’t know it’s you since it’s a different email contacting them 😭😭😭
Googling a price isnt really the easiest thing
that doesn’t seem like a question
googling an item btw
not the price
But they don't even respond in the LinkedIn growid email, bro
if it.. exists?
how long did you wait and how did you contact support?
What a weird thing to say
freddy’s the one /j
hi sakura
Contacted via support site, clicking in the bubble and filling the information that they asked. Wait more then 1 month
@native pebble ^^
no

no
have you checked your junk folder? made sure it’s the correct email you typed in?
Yes and yes
contact them again using the email that’s linked to your GrowID
I there a growtopia trading discord with all prices?

I did it 7 days ago and got nothing yet
you can try checking the lost nemo discord
with which email 🤨
Linked one
Its not going to have all the prices
@orchid talon can u send server link in dm?
is the support email whitelisted on your email?
the link’s in @vague ginkgo bio
Whitelisted? What is that?
Sorry for the dumb question (I think)
Not what I meant 
the item exists
what more do you want
Ok
My email is an @ig.com.br email, not gmail
Juvi 🙋♂️
what domain is that even
no wonder you probably aren’t getting emails

This is my fear lol
It's an Brazilian domain email
Does BR mean brazil
Ye
Ah- I typed it too slow
Almost one
No way
No wayy
I SPENT 50DOL TO RENEW MY SUBSCRIPTION IN THAT F@CKING EMAIL FOR NOTHING NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So I lost my account lvl 50+ with a 4 letter shop word and demon slayer song and 4000wls?
And more important than that... My childhood
An 2012/13 account
Broooooooooooooo no way
😭
Now I can die without peace

just sleep, bro
quick question have you tried this yet?
free bgls here.....DM ME

Really free? 🥺
weird that you can’t share how you are giving these free bgls
where locke (urgent)
raurv
raurv nuked bro
ya
gg
gl finding locke
i think the owner talked to a minor
locke on 14?
go upstock
sell grass trade
sell MeD two dls #🍰trade-consumable

Lol med worhtless
Not even 1wl
Maniper
I'm down to just black block, note block, steel block, and house entrance seeds for my time-space rupture mass, just gotta wait for these trees to grow 😴
@crystal schooner is now Level 6!
Hell no Chat
Note block and steel block are like 7-12 hours ugh
they ask u to join some random goofy ahhh server
tf
@pseudo flume why you quit sir 😭
Only you want to check and give compensation because i lost scrolls on dungeon 😭
@proper galleon lazy to check it and say im spam
Please do not sell services gs if u noob asfk
@carmine sparrow do smth /j
you can rent growscan services
Oh no need acc just check
Viju is pharaohboi ?
no
Sell growpedia
Lol
1/1900
do you even have a growscan? 🤨
Have 30k
You should get firing squad for that
I promise theres been worse here
Yeah but you ruined the moment
The moment??!
Those arent real
You have no idea how difficult it is to peddle thousands of growpedias everyday
when lunar comin?
Oh I see
That doesnt seem very important people use these?
i count every gem individually
counting gems.?
yes
why would you count them
ugh next you are gonna say you dont count each individual rice in your food
I mean i kinda eyeball it
why is my name golden
i have become piss
im not for sale
😏
isolde
cahyo redzblue seyxa zatiron reqteams apex thegamerzred
#raurv
legalize throwing poison darts at cahyo
🤬
I just got like 5 different 5 letter worlds, gonna clear em and make em rich people farms n crap
growmoji smile block
FREE BGLS DM ME FAST
👎

great british locks
xD
@vital onyx is now Level 1!
no
It's my birthday today, if anyone cares.
Congratulations birthday
happy birthday bro, come redeem your free wl
tsk
What is that?
whats your world
guys why i cant create new account ubisoft
My world is Krazymods
@south stag ntd still up?
@winged raven Thank you!!
hm dcs and sorrows now?
anyone wanna be friends?
guys free bgls dm me
Real?
dm
Not even legit
DO NOT DM ME
definitely sus
Guys donate me If you want world is Krazymods, I appreciate all the gifts.

She trolling
can confirm ✅
What
Gm
Gm
..
wait
can i transmute cosmic force onto superstar shades
and have the powers + sparkles.....
Two different slots, so you cant
And superstars is untransmutable
😔
BRAH!
this game sucks dude
It sucks bc i really like SSshades but also am so spoiled with cosmic
I could use salesman shades?
I like those too
Yes, I think those are transmutable
did superstar dropped?
Birthday item 
My accounts 11 years old so I got everything expect the 12 year item
Whatever that could be
Beatmaster aura
Happy anniversary
It was tradable on release guhhh
Why would anyone who's been around for 12 years willingly just give that up
Even if they dont like it
I displayed it in my world
Didnt sell
Display is cool but selling is brah
i need 3 more months
can i buy months so i can skip
free bgls . DM MEE
lol
bros still here
woah pro
@daring moon @little prairie rice box
@ebon jetty by the way, when is infinite wings tradable again
Bone bike should become tradeable tomorrow
When will the lunar event start?
:/
19th
when valen
ok
april
after val
Ohh
is selling gems still worth it?
worth
wait
Got gscan?
Idk im trying to figure out new income in gt so im thinking of buying one, but idk whats the demand & supply for gems
yummy
and have no idea whats the rate currently
@frail narwhal how much is gems
Answer or i shiggy

DO NOT SHIGGY
I think they're still 200/1
Maybe a little bit higher like 180/1
Ohh
cahyo redzblue seyxa zatiron reqteams apex thegamerzred
#raurv
@vital gale
Do you think that there’s a demand for gems?
when will valentine start
Apex is old
Oh yeah
With Val and LNY coming up?
Suuuper in demand
IM NOT OLD
MWEEHEHHEE
He not old, he just hate shiggy... Must... Resist... Emote...
So 100k gems is around 5 dls?

Or did i got it wrong
yes
Just fight each other
How much is infinite aura today?
Apie


who have kawaii set
Like 350dls?
who sell kawaii sat i buy
dang nobody want my cut
Oh no... not the shiggys 😭
I realized... yeah... she's on nitro
Why r people buying pepper seeds
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who sell kawaii hair i wall buy
still no teeny nd sellers brahhhh
brahhhhhhh
Meow
Try vpn
I see few on seeds
True but seeing a lot of buyer now honestly
Have you tried searching in trade worlds?
Hm would a 4 letter world go now
Up to bgl+
Is there any price distinctions with number or vowels and stuff
Like if more vowels the better the price, or is it just like a placebo
i was just there raaggg
anyways @livid thorn Hyperactive brain tumor
I think they avoiding you fr
He said he missed you
The Great Moyai has descended! Now is the time to show your loyalty to the Great and Almighty Moyai!
garp doesnt care for me anymore sob sob.
when moyai event on gt
wao
Homeopathic medicine?
gg
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@little prairie moia
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huhhh
WHY IS IT SO COMMON
2nd moyai
IT REMOVED MINE?
its spamming golden moyai now
react if u dont take bath
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