CombustMC (CumbustMC)

[woven yew]

CombustMC, fork of SpigotMC 1.11.1 (but actually 1.7.10)
"CombustMC est une meilleur performanté et configurablé spigotmc fork non basé au ペイパーＭＣ" ("CombustMC is one of the most performant and configurable spigot forks that do not base on paper")

• All messages are translated into French with Bing Translate via English -> Cantonese -> Amharic -> French -> English -> Hindi -> French
• Every plugin gets initialized with a message that's at least 15 lines long
• Performance of this fork with 32GB allocated is worse than Bukkit with 512MB allocated
• Cut down on like half of all vanilla features and make it unconfigurable
• Remove about 30% of the API and change the implementations of about 20%
• Spam the in-game chat occasionally with random one-liner errors
• Leak memory
• Every 5 minutes do some operation that has like a 15% chance to crash the server because it's buggy (and don't save player data)
• Do not compress log files into .tar.gz but instead straight up delete them and only the latest.log must survive
• Outdated libraries with vulnerabilities and exploits (not including log4j exploit bc that's effortless)
• Not allow to use Spark and say it's already loaded (and create a config dir for it so people think it's a spark bug)
• API implementations should be as buggy as they can be
• The plugin loader should sometimes spontaneously combust (e.g. it should use so much RAM and CPU that if there are more than 40 plugins being loaded the entire machine just crashes)
• Always change the spigot.yml, bukkit.yml, server.properties and combustmc.yml to default values ("bug")
• Badly translated docs, or none at all, or misinformation
• Mostly forget about coding/naming conventions
• Only allow clients on 1.11.1 even though the server is actually 1.7.10 but it's "1.11.1"
• Suppliers & lambdas to replace many functions
• Oldest Java version possible
• Functional interfaces without annotations

Devs: @woven yew, @inland field, @frail dune

[inland field]

Nice

[woven yew]

Part 2

• A good bunch of classes are written in Kotlin and some of their names/method names use variables like this which are inaccessible in Java without @JvmName
• There is some obscure method (it's very unclear what it does) and it almost looks like it can be removed, but if the Bukkit's psvm does not call it, the server fails to start

Like I actually wanna work on this after I release ue 2.2

[inland field]

sounds like a funny project ngl

[woven yew]

@slate sluice this is not a drill, pin this message

[inland field]

Lets badly translate some documentation and just delete some

And add some misinformation too

[woven yew]

Oh yeah I forgot to add that to the list

[inland field]

I know a funny thing we can also do

Lets add a few random chinese characters in some places just to confuse people

[woven yew]

Ofc

I'm learning Japanese so I can write some stuff in Japanese probably

"We forgot to translate this part of the docs"

[inland field]

Like imagine this "le combustmc performanté fork au spigotmc<chinese character>"

[frail dune]

i will join

[inland field]

Neat

OH I KNOW A THING

[woven yew]

interface stateId {
public State getState();

/**
 * @return state ID
 */
  public int getStateId();

/**
 * 翻訳し忘れたんだよ
 */
public void set_state_id(int var1);
}

[frail dune]

make sure to write it in groovy

[inland field]

Some of the code should be rewritten in kotlin

[woven yew]

Yes

Mostly java but some kotlin

[frail dune]

no, groovy and scala mixed

[woven yew]

In places where kotlin wouldn't even make snse

[inland field]

Yes

[woven yew]

We need to actually be able to write the code

I don't know groovy OR scala

[inland field]

Lol

[frail dune]

THAT'S THE POINT

[inland field]

We also need to write the code as bad as possible and forget about conventions

[woven yew]

YES

[inland field]

From now on classes are named using thisCase and methods using this_Case

[frail dune]

nononono

[inland field]

Variables use ThisCase

[frail dune]

we need to write a dreamberd to groovy transpiler and tell everyone to write them in dreamberd

[woven yew]

this is etalon code

[inland field]

Also don't forget to use goto if it exists in java

[frail dune]

also "what does deprecated mean"

[woven yew]

Oh yeah we need to use Unsafe too

And deprecate half the api

With no replacement

[frail dune]

and make everything const const const

[frail dune]

mojang moment

[woven yew]

Or a replacement that throws unimplemented exception

[frail dune]

Lmfao

TODO()

[woven yew]

Yep

[inland field]

Immutability

Welcome to fp

[frail dune]

that means it can NEVER be changed. like it will always stay like that for the rest of the survival of the universe

[woven yew]

So yeah Java-prevalent (bc i don't want to rewrite the entire fucking spigot in Kotlin) but some classes are in Kotlin (but they are converted to kotlin with IntelliJ's "convert to kotlin", not by hand, so they look mostly dumb and ugly)

[woven yew]

OCP-conforming

[frail dune]

and half of it is groovy and scala mixed

[inland field]

Guys, can we please leave two newlines between each { and }

[frail dune]

and we use maven

[frail dune]

YES

[woven yew]

This is a convention. I 'm not following conventions in this project

I mean I will do it

But not consistently

[frail dune]

before AND after them

[woven yew]

Also what version of spigot are we forking lol

1.7.10?

Or 1.20.6

[inland field]

As zbll said, inconsistently

[inland field]

1.20.5

Precisely that version

[woven yew]

I propose something that nobody actually uses

[frail dune]

1.20.5 but 1.7.10 apis

[woven yew]

Like some version that literally nobody said in ages

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

1.9.4 or something

Or 1.12.1

Or 1.14.3

[inland field]

b1.8

[woven yew]

Something stupid

[frail dune]

LMAO

[inland field]

1.11

[woven yew]

Yeah maybe

[inland field]

1.11.1

[woven yew]

Though idk that's too old maybe?

[frail dune]

[woven yew]

Actually no

1.11.1 is perfect

Bc it still uses ids instead of namespacedkeys

So the code will be uglier

A lot

[inland field]

Yay

[woven yew]

1.11.1 is the version

[frail dune]

but can we do 1.7.10 apis

[woven yew]

Howd you do that

[inland field]

Also, what if we use some good mappings while writing code but before pushing we always remap it to purely obfuscated

[frail dune]

nono we run on 1.7.10 but pretend we are 1.11.1

[inland field]

So code is harder to read

[woven yew]

1.11.1 mappings?

[inland field]

LMAO

[woven yew]

What exactly do you mean

[inland field]

Idk, I think we can get yarn on 1.11.1 if we try a bit

[woven yew]

Are we forking 1.11.1 or 1.7.10

[frail dune]

/about says 1.11.1, proto version is 1.11.1 but the server is 1.7.10

[woven yew]

Lmao

[frail dune]

and only allow 1.11.1 clients

NO other version

[inland field]

Yes

[woven yew]

Howd that even work lol

I mean I guess we can do that

[frail dune]

via

[inland field]

We can check how it works ig

[woven yew]

Ok we can figure that out

I am going to go math

Cya

[frail dune]

cya

and docs will be written by my terrible french

[inland field]

And @acoustic tartan will tell us whether it's bad enough

[woven yew]

I thought we were doing this for docs

I guess some can be done byhand

[inland field]

We are doing it for everything

Not only docs

[inland field]

Yee

[woven yew]

Fair

[woven yew]

Method names

Xd

[inland field]

My french is bad enough toi

[frail dune]

Oh no

[woven yew]

The only french word I know is beaucoup

[frail dune]

non

[inland field]

My message: le combustmc performanté fork au spigotmc
Correct according to chatgpt: Le fork performant de CombustMC pour SpigotMC

[frail dune]

baguette croissant oui oui tu est une baguette

[inland field]

Lol

[frail dune]

hear me out

we write the api in terrible ansi c (first release)

and make groovy bindings

[inland field]

Please use as many gotos as possible

If they're existant in the jvm

[frail dune]

if not we'll make them

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

(but they're just methods)

oh yeah and you need our custom jvm fork to run the server

[inland field]

OH I KNOW AN AWFUL WAY TO WRITE CODE

We'll extract all methods into variables as lambdas

[frail dune]

YES

should we work on this later

[inland field]

goto used to exist

In java

And jvm

But it got removed

For the lack of need

[frail dune]

then we switch to that version

[inland field]

Jvm 1.1?

[frail dune]

yes

[frail dune]

what could possibly go wrong

[inland field]

The absence of lambdas

But writing new Supplier each time is even better

[frail dune]

lmaoo

[inland field]

RIGHT

[lost vessel]

?whereami

[cunning pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[inland field]

Lets create a functional interface for each function interface but without the annotation

[woven yew]

NAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[frail dune]

yes

[woven yew]

true

[frail dune]

pull a kyori without annotating

[inland field]

We are allowed to dicuss cabernetmc here too so fuck you

[lost vessel]

lmao

[frail dune]

cabernetmc my beloved ❤️

[lost vessel]

this is just about paper though, like every other fork is fine

as long as its not paper

[frail dune]

yea ofc ofc

[frail dune]

https://suno.com/song/c70b3b2b-ec6c-4978-88eb-557d22181fcb

[inland field]

Yeah, it's the
"CombustMC is one of the most performant and configurable spigot forks that do not base on paper" or some shit

[woven yew]

Yeah check the topmost message

Waiting for conclube to pin it

[inland field]

I HAVE AN IDEA

[frail dune]

yes

[inland field]

We will make our own mappings that do not make any sense

And use it

[frail dune]

KFJDJDJD YES

no way to remap

[inland field]

IT WILL ALSO BE IN FRENCH

[frail dune]

YES

[inland field]

Frenchcraft

[woven yew]

I'll leave the remappings to you remap king

[frail dune]

yea

as well as paulem maybe

[woven yew]

Yes if he wants to contribute

[frail dune]

surely

i'll hop onto vc soon and set up some stuff for it then?

[woven yew]

Can we please delay the start of this project for a bit

I want to finish working on the update for my plugin first

Raydan may want to finish cvn first

[frail dune]

:(((((

[woven yew]

I mean you can set stuff up for sure but if possible not start coding it yet

[inland field]

Imagine looking into logs just to see "Method réseau/minecréer/serveur/minecréerServeur/obtenir_Niveau not found"

[frail dune]

but i want to procrastinate further!!!!

[frail dune]

omgg lmfaoo

[woven yew]

I am barely juggling between spigot dev and maths lmao

[woven yew]

Frr

[woven yew]

^

[frail dune]

aw

[woven yew]

You can set it up so it's ready for contributions and work

And if you want you can be the project manager, like assign workloads and stuff

[frail dune]

uh sure

[woven yew]

But I'd like to postpone the actual start of dev if possible

[frail dune]

i'll make sure to be the worst PM possible

[inland field]

Btw, what I sent is just "network/minecreate/server/minecreateServer/get_Level"

[woven yew]

That's the way to go

[woven yew]

Lol

[frail dune]

😭

[frail dune]

how long

[inland field]

Btw, for methods, packages and classes, don't translate all at once, translate all of them seperately

[frail dune]

pm starter kit

[frail dune]

yea 100%

[woven yew]

You can join https://discord.gg/bBge7bj3ra and read #devlog 🙂

[frail dune]

also please please please

can we make this the logo

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Sure

[frail dune]

and idea

[inland field]

At the end you need to put the type of 2016 intro with "Comblast MCj" popping up lmao

[frail dune]

make a hardcoded resourcepack that can display that gif and have it always be in tab

i can do that

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Suure

[inland field]

AND THEN OTHER RESOURCEPACKS DON'T WORK

GENIUS

[woven yew]

Lmao

[lost vessel]

can you force a resourcepack with your plugin?

[woven yew]

Sir this is a fork

We can change implementations

[frail dune]

OH RIGHT THAT'S INTRODCUED IN 1.19.3?

[woven yew]

How we plaese

[frail dune]

yes

[inland field]

Yes

[lost vessel]

what how

I wanna know 😅

[frail dune]

sendResourcePack?

[woven yew]

What exacly

[frail dune]

there's also an rp status event

[inland field]

I have an idea

Make it throw exceptions from methods and classes that do not exist

[woven yew]

No-brainer

[frail dune]

ofc yeah

[inland field]

Imagine stacktrace telling you it's from réseau/minecréer/serveur/niveau/obtenir_Baguette and that just doesn't exist

[frail dune]

lmaoo

get_Baguette go brr

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

okay but actually

one of the cool featurs of kotlin

is

[woven yew]

Knew it. There's none

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

fun `hello world!! this is a cool method`() {}
`hello world!! this is a cool method`()

[woven yew]

Oh yeah that's true

[frail dune]

and we could use that

[inland field]

Use that as much as possible in combustmc

This way we get methods that are badly translated french sentences

[woven yew]

fun `this function is fun🤪`()

[frail dune]

yea

[woven yew]

YO

We should write method names

As if we are writing test method names

Yk those ones

[inland field]

`la methode pour executé spigotmc niveau`()

[woven yew]

givenDoubleMaxValueAsRadius_whenCalculateArea_thenReturnAreaAsInfinity

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Turns into

fun `Given double max value as radius, when calculate area, then return area as infinity`()

I miss my 2022-2023 bravery

I wanted to learn kotlin

So I just went and rewrote one of my plugins in kotlin and made it 10 times better too

This code is horrendeous but it made me what I am today

Like these days I wouldn't dare do a project in a language that I'm not exactly familiar with

But with UnderscoreKillstreaks I just did it

[inland field]

"CombustMC est une meilleur performanté et configurablé spigotmc fork non basé au papermc" this is the new description

[frail dune]

WAIT

[woven yew]

Updated

[frail dune]

IT DOESN'T EXIST IN JAVA

[woven yew]

Java is a nerd

"Um, actually, this name is incorrect🤓 "

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Make it jvmstatic

Or smth

Idk

[frail dune]

🤓

[woven yew]

Maybe that'll help

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

nope

doesn't help

[inland field]

When we are done with the fork we will be fluent french speakers

[woven yew]

I sure hope not. I fucking hate french people (except paulem and that dude whose identity was stolen by leguernic), I do not recognize the existence of France

[frail dune]

same

[inland field]

As a german, I think france belongs to germany

[frail dune]

o.O

[woven yew]

If people see this message out of context I might be done for
*rad about to gifify this*

[inland field]

We have fought it enough times to own it

[frail dune]

o yeah sure

[woven yew]

Just in case you want to gifify

Gifify this

[frail dune]

ok

[woven yew]

Wait

One edit

One sec

[frail dune]

already ran imagemagick

[woven yew]

Ok there

[woven yew]

This

Do this

[frail dune]

urgh

okay i will

[woven yew]

And this lmao

[frail dune]

ok bet

[inland field]

Can we please share this in all channels

[woven yew]

Ofc

[frail dune]

this too

what if we don't do it in tests

genuinely what the fuck

[woven yew]

UNDERSCORES

[woven yew]

No..codeis not coding

[woven yew]

I think your code has a warning, not sure though, double-check

[frail dune]

eh

[inland field]

Lnao

[frail dune]

it'll be fiiineeeeeeeee

[woven yew]

Laughing ??? ass off

[inland field]

Laughing n-words ass off?

[frail dune]

WHAT

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Laughing neighbour's ass off

As in, love thy neighbor

[inland field]

Nah

N word one was better

[woven yew]

I'm about to do something rq

[inland field]

Could drop the n word but I don't wanna vanish

[woven yew]

RAD GIF THIS

[frail dune]

ok

wait

lemme crop it

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

WTF???

[woven yew]

Raydan gif this

[inland field]

I'd say something like that if I wanted to

[frail dune]

WTF????

[woven yew]

You already did. There's screenshots

[inland field]

Lol

[frail dune]

@inland field ????

[inland field]

Lmao

[inland field]

I got an idea

Each dev will write documentation in one specific language

This way it will look like everybody writes documentation for themselves

And don't forget to write comments

[frail dune]

yes that is so good

[inland field]

I wanna take shitty french

[frail dune]

aw

i'll do toki pona then

[inland field]

Do you think you could write documentation in some german village dialect or some shit

[frail dune]

hm

maybe

[inland field]

Mixed with dutch and just simply nonexistant words

[nimble pivot]

most of this is in paper already

PRing the rest would improve it

[acoustic tartan]

What the hell 😂😂

[inland field]

Did you like my translation to french

[acoustic tartan]

I can say that everything you sent in "french" isn't even french

[inland field]

Lmao

Is my french that bad

[acoustic tartan]

Well

I'll correct that for you

[frail dune]

no no

[inland field]

Well, it's bad on purpose

[frail dune]

that's the point

[frail dune]

i'll write it in bavarian german and write it the way you pronounce it, not hochdeutsch

[inland field]

Neat

[frail dune]

like uhhh

[inland field]

I can only do broken dutch

Ik spreke nederlandisch

Mien nederlandisch is super

[woven yew]

I feel needed

[acoustic tartan]

Let's correct that to : "CombustMC est un fork de SpigotMC 1.11.1 (finalement, de la 1.7.10)

[frail dune]

Dit hier zeegt de wie mon ne Welt orschtellen koann

[woven yew]

Kk

[inland field]

it's bad on purpose sir

[woven yew]

Yeah that's fire

[acoustic tartan]

Tu veux te battre ? ❤️

Nah I'm joking 🤓☝️

[inland field]

mon non speak francąis

[frail dune]

je ne parle pas le fran©ais

[acoustic tartan]

Tu ne parles pas français ?

[inland field]

uhh, tak or something

[frail dune]

lmao

[acoustic tartan]

I just wanna expose my only quality 😎

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

can you add me

[woven yew]

Yep

Conclube still hasn't pinned the message

Smh my head mh

[acoustic tartan]

Pourtant le français ce n'est absolument pas compliqué, regardez, vous connaissez les propositions subordonnées relatives en anglais ? C'est simplement que la proposition est introduite par un pronom relatif, comme "qui", et qu'elle est complément de l'antécédent par rapport au nom auquel elle est reliée

[frail dune]

smh my head

[inland field]

Admin ban pls

[acoustic tartan]

X)

I say something true actually 🤓☝️

[frail dune]

oui oui croissant tu est une baguette

[acoustic tartan]

Tu es*

We use "est" with "Il"

[frail dune]

shut up

[acoustic tartan]

"est" is the verb "be"

Like

[frail dune]

i know

être

[acoustic tartan]

Je suis
Tu es
Il est
Nous sommes
Vous êtes
Ils sont

[frail dune]

i knew that 😭

[woven yew]

why are you speaking in french ewwwwww

[acoustic tartan]

Now, let's do that in PASSÉ COMPOSÉ

[frail dune]

no

[acoustic tartan]

Or no, harder

PASSÉ SIMPLE

[frail dune]

isn't that je vais suis or somethign

[acoustic tartan]

Je fus
Tu fus
Il fut
Nous fûmes
Vous fûtes
Ils furent

[inland field]

Lets do non passé this class

[woven yew]

блять пиздец

[acoustic tartan]

The verbe "have" with the verb you want after

[woven yew]

вот бы щас про падежи в русском рассказать

[frail dune]

hdf

[woven yew]

или про то как в японском глаголы изменяются

[inland field]

Финском

[woven yew]

не шарю

[acoustic tartan]

Like :
J'ai été
Tu as été
Il a été
Nous avons été
Vous avez été
Ils ont été

[inland field]

Wie unrespektvoll

[frail dune]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS

[frail dune]

sry

😔

[acoustic tartan]

But, it's the past participle of the verb that you'll use

[frail dune]

what the fuck 😭

[acoustic tartan]

So être = été

Like be = been

[frail dune]

fuck french

deutsch ist eh besser

[woven yew]

people

[inland field]

Fr fr

[frail dune]

für echt

[acoustic tartan]

So passé composé is :
J'ai été = I've been
Tu as été = You've been
Il a été = He has been...

[frail dune]

WHY TF IS AVOIR IN THERE

[acoustic tartan]

For french people, it's logical

[inland field]

Grundschulfrage 1: Wann wird der Dativ benutzt?

[frail dune]

der dativ ist dem genitiv sein tod

[acoustic tartan]

But we also got a "subjonctif" one

[frail dune]

bittesehr

[acoustic tartan]

große

[frail dune]

😳

[inland field]

This is some interlinguistic shit

[frail dune]

fr

[acoustic tartan]

Que j'ai été
Que tu as été
Qu'il a été...

[inland field]

If we continue this we are gonna spontaneously combust(mc)

[inland field]

Boah ich weiß was wir brauchen
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit

[acoustic tartan]

It's "equal" to :
That I've been
That you've been...

[frail dune]

FÜÜÜR DAAS DEUTSCHE VAATERLAAAAND

[acoustic tartan]

Wurst

[frail dune]

LMAO

[inland field]

LMAOAAAOAOAOAO

💀💀💀

[acoustic tartan]

Saucisse

[frail dune]

lmfaooo

i'm dying help

[acoustic tartan]

"Je meurs, à l'aide"

[frail dune]

mi toki toki pona

no

[acoustic tartan]

Chipi chipi

[frail dune]

tu es morte

[acoustic tartan]

Je suis un homme, donc "tu es mort"

[frail dune]

:(

[inland field]

Isn't morte from the latin root mort-, modern english "death"

[acoustic tartan]

HIER ENCORE J'AVAIS VINGT ANS 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥

[frail dune]

yes

[acoustic tartan]

Yeah exactly

Lorem Ipsum dolor sit amet

[inland field]

In english we have words from normads, such as "mortal"

[acoustic tartan]

Consectetur adisciping elit

[inland field]

Dollar $$$

[acoustic tartan]

Mortelle in french

[frail dune]

erm

[acoustic tartan]

REICH MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🔥

Sorry 😐

[frail dune]

frankreich means france...

[acoustic tartan]

Well actually that's my only thought about GERMANY

[inland field]

French reich

Reich of Franks

[acoustic tartan]

Allemagne 🗣️🗣️🔥

[acoustic tartan]

I know

🤓☝️

[frail dune]

[lost vessel]

gerfew

[frail dune]

real

[acoustic tartan]

WELCOME GUY 🗣️

[acoustic tartan]

CAMPFIRE OR EVEN FEU DE CAMP

HIER ENCORE J'AVAIS VINGT ANS 🗣️🗣️

[frail dune]

what is zbll cooking 🔥

[woven yew]

A basic Japanese verb, due to the agglutinative nature of the language, can turn into the craziest things. There are 3 types of verbs

1. Verbs that end in う, く, ぐ, す, つ, ぬ, ぶ, む, る (except those that end with iる or eる (except exceptions)). These verbs are verbs like 買う, 死ぬ, 並ぶ
2. Verbs that end with iる, eる (except exceptions that are type 1), such as 食べる, 見る, 起きる
3. Specific verbs くる and する

Depending on the type of the verb, it can be conjugated into its て-form:

• For type 1 verbs that end with う, つ, る, drop the last mora and add って - 買って, 勝って, 怒って
• For type 1 verbs that end with く or ぐ, drop the last mora and add いて or いで respectively - 書いて, 急いで
• For type 1 verbs that end with す, drop it and add して - 貸して
• For type 1 verbs that end with ぬ, ぶ, む, drop the last mora and add んで - 死んで, 並んで, 混んで
• For type 2 verbs, drop る and add て - 食べて, 起きて
• 来る becomes 来て
• する becomes して
• 行く becomes 行って

With a て-verb you can almost do anything. You can chain verbs or even clauses to describe sequences of actions, you can add special verbs that alter the general meaning (e.g. いる, ある, おく, くる); additionally, the て-form of the verb is often what's used in various grammatical structures.

Special verbs to append:

• ている - turns the action verb into an action that's happening now; turns a state verb into a description: 食べている - I'm eating; 窓が開いている - the window is open
• てある - turns an action verb into something like "this has been done intentionally": 窓が開いてある - this window is opened (by smbd)
• ておく- to do something in advance: 試験だから、勉強しておきた - an exam is coming, so I've studied some
• てくる - basically means "to do and come back": 店に行ってくる - I'll quickly pop into the shop and return

[frail dune]

what thr fuck

[acoustic tartan]

JAPANESE MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️ WHAT THE FUCK IS NARUTO

[inland field]

Why did we get paulem here

[woven yew]

Naruto? As in なると? The conditional form of "to become"?

[acoustic tartan]

you pinged me

[acoustic tartan]

yeah, maybe

[inland field]

Can you pls add md5 hashes to cvn

[woven yew]

MD5 MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️ WHAT THE FUCK IS SPIGOT

[acoustic tartan]

MD5 MENTIONED 🗣️ WHAT THE FUCK IS A CORRECT MAPPING

[woven yew]

Nahhhhh

Pure brainrot

[acoustic tartan]

well

I'll see that

I'm busy for now

doing some school work in parallel with artificial intelligence

and after, doing my musculation and going to judo

If I even have the time to do my musculation

[inland field]

@woven yew translate judo

[woven yew]

柔道 judo (jūdō)

The first kanji means tender, soft, gentle

The second kanji means road, path

[inland field]

I have an idea for writing documentation

I will go to random people on the bahnhof, ask them whether they wanna participate in an experiment, if they say yes I ask them how they would document a function that does xyz and tell them I will not give any context, they should just try to explain how it works and what it does and we will use that as documentation

[frail dune]

yesss

do that for every function and value

[inland field]

Yeah lmao

"wie würden sie eine Variabel bennen die zum iterieren durch eine Liste benutzt wird?"
"Ähm, wie bitte?"

[frail dune]

"wie würden sie eine methode nennen, welche einen text komponenten zu javaskript objekt notation umwandelt und parsiert, dann wieder zurück in einen abenteuer textkomponenten parsiert?"
"digga was zum fic-"

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

abenteuer textkomponent 😭

[inland field]

Lmao

Literal fucking adventure

[inland field]

Wouldn't it make sense to be Objektnotation rather than Object Notation

Dunno why, sounds better

[frail dune]

ok

[inland field]

Nobody:
Literally nobody:
IJ when kotlin bytecode: you want decompiled code? Fuck you. Take some method definitions instead

[frail dune]

hehe

[inland field]

That's why some of our code shall become kotlin

And groovy

And scala

Btw I have 5%

And I'm still waiting for my bus

Because the fucking train DOES NOT stop at my station today

Deutsche Bahn mfs

[frail dune]

[inland field]

Bro the people here

"bruder wallah" or whatever

Every single moment

[frail dune]

vallah habibi

[inland field]

Immer die Türken, ne

[frail dune]

💀

[inland field]

Wirklich schlimm, keine Deutschen mehr in Deutschland

German old people be like

[inland field]

@woven yew can we pls remove all usages of yml by json5

[woven yew]

wdym

[frail dune]

hear me out

pickel configs

[inland field]

@frail dune apparently "mappings" in german ist "zuordnungen" lmaooooo

"schick mal deine Zuordnungen" pfff

[frail dune]

my reaction to that information:

[inland field]

lmao

[frail dune]

(my punishment system is broken and i can still join)

[inland field]

lmfao

aber wirklich, welche Zuordnungen benutzt du? yarn oder mojang zuordnungen?

why does it sound so weird

[frail dune]

ich benutze mojang zuordnungen in meinem steck-ein

und yarn zuordnungen in meiner modifikation

[inland field]

LMFAO

that sounds so bad

[frail dune]

@inland field you should totally join my server !! frfr ong ong 2024 no fake no virus

(this is a cry for help)

[inland field]

lol

just as I said, "vllt"

[jovial spade]

when were yall gonna tell me about this

[woven yew]

lmao

[inland field]

hello karmadev

[misty violet]

Can you guys make the plugin require to have a plugin.yml, but require to have a @Combust annotation on the plugin main?
If there's information which is not the same in the plugin.yml and the annotation, the plugin fails to load and deletes himself

[frail dune]

yes lmfao

and it deletes the jar

[inland field]

LMFAO

[misty violet]

And crashses the server

[woven yew]

Also every class in the jar must point back to the main class with @CombustPluginChild(pluginClass)

[inland field]

LMFAOOOO

[woven yew]

Otherwise the plugin class loader ignores it

[misty violet]

That makes sense

[inland field]

Absolutely

[frail dune]

YES

[woven yew]

And throws ClassNotFound on invokations

[frail dune]

WPIASDJFOIDFHSDJOFG

BRILLIANT

[inland field]

And also make classes available only to the plugin it is annotated with

[frail dune]

yea ofc ofc

what are libraries

[woven yew]

AND set some hard limit on the amount of classes per jar, e.g. if there are more than 40 either don't allow the plugin to load, or make the plugin loader so overloaded that it eats like 7 gb of ram (and leaks it)

[frail dune]

YESSSSS

[inland field]

It has to look like an inexperienced developer was making a fork and this would be the ideal way to make it look like that

[woven yew]

Yes, that was the initial intention ^^

So no obviously stupid shit

[misty violet]

The Bukkit class should be renamed to bukkit

[woven yew]

But rather shit that was done by somebody inexperienced

[woven yew]

Yeah we already agreed to not follow conventions

[frail dune]

we don't do naming conventions either way

[woven yew]

This is etalon code

[inland field]

Yeah we also will make our own extra shit mappings that are just bad french

[woven yew]

@slate sluice please pin 😭 you js left the thread without pinning lmao

[frail dune]

rude

[inland field]

I will email md_5 about this if conclube doesn't pin

[slate sluice]

Wasn’t this just a troll fork?

[woven yew]

No

We'll be working on this

Legitimately

[inland field]

Lol

[woven yew]

This will be a thing

[misty violet]

This is the future

[woven yew]

That you will be able to use

[slate sluice]

… surely …

[inland field]

Conclube when a few idiots actually make a shit fork: 🗿

[slate sluice]

lmao

[misty violet]

The spigot fork for inexperienced developers

[woven yew]

I mean it's gonna be basically unusable but it's gonna be real

[slate sluice]

naaa dont roast urselves like that

[inland field]

More of than for, but anyways

[slate sluice]

ill pin

[frail dune]

yes

ty

[woven yew]

👉 👈

[woven yew]

:3

Tyy

[slate sluice]

In kotlin right?

[woven yew]

Both kotlin and java

And maybe groovy

[frail dune]

why no grovy

[woven yew]

And maybe scala

[frail dune]

tehre we go

[slate sluice]

Die

[woven yew]

Whatever ends upbeing there

[frail dune]

can I write everything in toki pona

[misty violet]

https://www.sce.carleton.ca/courses/javaResources/jdk1.2.2/download.html

[slate sluice]

Fuck groovy, cheers and bye

[woven yew]

Maybe some native C code too

[frail dune]

yea jdk 1.1 ofc

[woven yew]

Will it launch?

[inland field]

Yes

[woven yew]

Fuck it we'll make it thappen

[frail dune]

@woven yew

[regal plume]

now what cave did i end up in here?

[frail dune]

welcome.

[woven yew]

You can write docs in whatever language you want

[inland field]

I KNOW, we will have to write commits and shit in the most broken english ever

[woven yew]

And method names

Etc

[frail dune]

oh not just hte docs

[woven yew]

Yes

[woven yew]

Yes but don't be consistent

[frail dune]

no hablos ingles

[woven yew]

E.g. not only toki pona

[frail dune]

yea ofc

[woven yew]

All languages

[frail dune]

😭😭

this gonna be so good

[woven yew]

And afterwards

We need to gather a sum of money

And send this project

For a professional code review

[inland field]

LMFAO

[frail dune]

YESSSSSS

[misty violet]

The docs should include a language that we just created, Spilang

Spillo hogot (Hello world)

[frail dune]

NONO

PUT IT IN #1100941063058894868

wait

[woven yew]

Lmfao

[frail dune]

better idea

[inland field]

My broken french (it's not even french at this point) will be the best thing about the documentation

[frail dune]

go to papermc generla

[woven yew]

Oh yes

[frail dune]

and ask about opinions on it

[inland field]

Every time you look into it you will notice le and la

[woven yew]

"CombustMC est une meilleur performanté et configurablé spigotmc fork non basé au ペイパーＭＣ"

Reminder

[frail dune]

switch les and le

and switch every accent

[woven yew]

"CombustMC is one of the most performant and configurable spigot forks that do not base on paper"

[inland field]

This is such bad french

[inland field]

What's les

[frail dune]

plural

[inland field]

Idk plural

[frail dune]

[inland field]

I only know le, la, de, au and pour

[frail dune]

skull

[lost vessel]

enough for a language

[woven yew]

コンバストＭＣはペイパーＭＣのベイズじゃないしベストだしペルフォーマントだしコンフィグラブルなスピゴットのフォークです

Basically almost every word is transliterated

Configurable -> konfiguraburu etc

[frail dune]

tf?

[woven yew]

So that it would be absolutely horrible and unreadable

I bet those words don't even exist in japanese

I tried my best to make it as broken as possible

[lost vessel]

yet its still true

it aint no waistcoat

[frail dune]

no waistcoat 😭

[woven yew]

Wait i made a typo 1 sec

[inland field]

Lmao

[woven yew]

Try this

[inland field]

Where tf are we gonna get spigot 1.7.10 from

Doubt that shit is hosted anywhere

[woven yew]

Idk lmfao

Our project manager @frail dune will find it

[frail dune]

erm

okay

i'll try

[woven yew]

"i'll try" you WILL do it

[frail dune]

stash not loading

[inland field]

Does anybody know what rev 1.7.10 is

[woven yew]

Not me

[frail dune]

1.8 is the earliest branch i could find

[inland field]

Yeah

[frail dune]

okay

hear me out

we say we are 1.11.1

[inland field]

If you know the rev for 1.7.10 I'll get it easily

[frail dune]

we then admit to using 1.7.10

but use 1.8

[inland field]

LMFAO

Bro carried

[frail dune]

i kinda cooked

[misty violet]

https://github.com/ediTv2/Spigot

This is 1.7.10, but has 1.8 support

[woven yew]

Tooo good for us

We need worse

[inland field]

The issue is, it has two links to other places (cb and bukkit) but those don't exist anymore lmao

[frail dune]

we just rename the cb package to v1_7_10

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

and pretend we actually use 1.11.1

but then it's actually 1.8

[frail dune]

and if they find out it's not we say it's 1.7.10

but it's actually not

[misty violet]

brilliant

[frail dune]

genius right

[inland field]

What if we actually rename the cb and nms package to combustmc_1_7_10 to fuck with cb and nms users

[misty violet]

Use 1.20.6 but rename to 1_7_10 and say it's 1.11.1

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

no no

rename to 1_77_10

say it was a typo

[inland field]

There should also be something that looks suspiciously similar to a backdoor but then it should just be some weird impl of something

[frail dune]

xz

we include the xz backdoor

[woven yew]

YES

[inland field]

Nah no backdoors, just bad code

[woven yew]

backdoors are effortless

[frail dune]

backdoors that install bonzibuddy

[woven yew]

we were planning on making this fork as unsecure as possible

but no backdoors

[frail dune]

aww

[woven yew]

Outdated libraries with vulnerabilities and exploits (not including log4j exploit bc that's effortless)

[misty violet]

public class RemoteCodeExecutor implements RemoteCommandSender {

    public boolean hasOp() {return false;}
    ...
}

[inland field]

Lets just add something that looks like it's downloading a class when it's really just some shitty reflection

[frail dune]

LMAO

[inland field]

LMFAO

[woven yew]

so like if somebody wants to run bungeecord with this, they are putting their entire network at risk

[woven yew]

yes bc of bad obfuscation/translation

[misty violet]

It's impressive how bad developers are when naming things, but how good we are with naming things wrongly

[inland field]

Mon francąis non bien, le funktione remote code execution performante

[woven yew]

we need to not use some stdlib stuff (like Collections or something) and make our own horrendously slow and buggy implementations, but make them all private so they can be only instantiated with reflection, and every method should also be private

[woven yew]

but not across the entire project ofc

[inland field]

Bro wtf

[woven yew]

use our impl somewhere and use collection somewhere

[frail dune]

YES

[woven yew]

this is so that people wouldn't be able to use stuff they are comfortable with when working with the api

[frail dune]

and i will make horrid examples

[woven yew]

and yk what

[inland field]

Lmao

[frail dune]

500 line example of hello world which includes one text component

also

let's make text api as horrid as possible

[inland field]

Yk what

[woven yew]

@nimble pivot is currently rewriting the JVM
so we need him to make a fork of any jvm and unoptimize it in some places etc

[inland field]

Let's, just to laugh at spigot, introduce a fully-working, completely ideal component api

[woven yew]

bc now he has experience

[woven yew]

lmfaoooooo

no bc text is too crucial for many plugins

we don't want something important to be good

[inland field]

Like, everything is burning and then there is just a component shining above the fire

[woven yew]

if you'll take the responsibility of writing the component api then sure

[inland field]

why not

[frail dune]

please 🙏

ykwhat

i will

fork adventure

[inland field]

It'll also break all usages of strings

[frail dune]

make it as horrid as possible

yes

pull a paper

[inland field]

It should use components even in the bukkit logger or broadcast

Even when it's to the console or somethijg

Aleays component

[woven yew]

YK WHAT

YK WHAT

[frail dune]

paper already does that

[woven yew]

I HAVE AN IDEA

[frail dune]

lol

[lost vessel]

deprecate everything as a style guide

[frail dune]

yea

[inland field]

But don't overload, just replace with components so 0.01% of plugins work properly

Also use some weird package name

[frail dune]

textkomponenten

[woven yew]

Make the component API classes (e.g. TextComponent or something you come up with) have no direct toString() method and then use toString() in the logger
So it'll be something like this in the console

[23:11:23] [Server thread/INFO] TextComponent@aa9b2857
[23:11:23] [Server thread/INFO] TextComponent@aa9b2857
[23:11:23] [Server thread/INFO] TextComponent@aa9b2857

[frail dune]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSss

YESSS

OMG

YES

[inland field]

organizatione.buquit.serveur

[frail dune]

i love this so much

[inland field]

organizatione.buquit.serveur.komponenté.écriture_Komponenté

[frail dune]

yesssssss

[inland field]

And use like 5 different package names for bukkit

[frail dune]

this is gonna be so good

this feels so wrong

[inland field]

What's that

[frail dune]

live updating event team players

[acoustic tartan]

we should write some docs in french too

[inland field]

Ofc

But very bad french

[woven yew]

read the pinned messages

[inland field]

Like mine

[acoustic tartan]

and add some randoms hashes to the end of the doc

[inland field]

Mon francąis de bien

[woven yew]

we are writing docs in every language we can

[acoustic tartan]

I'll help you to be bad at french

[woven yew]

but badly

[acoustic tartan]

chinese

[inland field]

Mon francąis est bon?

[woven yew]

do you know chinese?

[acoustic tartan]

actually, that's good

[acoustic tartan]

yeha

ching chong chuang

[woven yew]

sick

ah

[inland field]

I'm learning french

[acoustic tartan]

it's hello world

[woven yew]

im sorry about that 😦

[inland field]

Lol

[frail dune]

same

this is the most confusing class i've ever seen

[inland field]

Well, I'll go play on #1242181722326569000 (one day we will have a combust smp)

[woven yew]

?arrowcode

[cunning pumice]

http://wiki.c2.com/?ArrowAntiPattern

[frail dune]

look at this beauty

[acoustic tartan]

he said : "I kill babies"

[woven yew]

?

[frail dune]

what..

[woven yew]

photoshop

[frail dune]

@inland field@inland field@inland field@inland field@inland field

[frail dune]

@woven yew tell me how else to do it for this then

[woven yew]

i'd extract some indentations into a function idk

[woven yew]

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

paulem you got competition move the fuck aside

[acoustic tartan]

so sad 😢

We should make some fields with mojang naming, other with spigot naming, classes with intermediary naming, method with obfuscation naming and parameters with yarn naming

I think that would help to work with NMS

And that would be PERFECT for CVN

[nimble pivot]

😭

[acoustic tartan]

bruhhhh

if we really make CombustMC that would be insanely trash and a big waste of time

but I think we would learn a lot about spigot and jvm lol

[misty violet]

Bro is stalking people 💀

||(i do the same)||

[frail dune]

NUH UH

[woven yew]

Yall have no business pinging me this muchg

[woven yew]

I just saw it here lmao

[nimble pivot]

and insanity

you have no idea the horrors I've seen working on this stare

there are 11 opcodes to load an int

[woven yew]

W H Y

[inland field]

iconst_5 or whatever

[nimble pivot]

LDC <- can load an int
ILOAD <- loads an int
ICONST_0 to ICONST_5 load their respective number
ICONST_M1 loads -1
BIPUSH <- loads an int

[frail dune]

tf

[nimble pivot]

BIPUSH albeit is pushes a byte as an integer onto the stack

[inland field]

What's the difference between 2 and last

[inland field]

Ah

Whats ldc

[nimble pivot]

Load Constant

[inland field]

Ah

[nimble pivot]

ILOAD is used for (probably non-constant) integers

LDC is used for all constants

Fun enough

LDC is also used for loading class references

i.e.

[inland field]

Constants like final or val?

[nimble pivot]

ldc Ljava/lang/String;

loads String.class

[inland field]

Damn

Does it also push it to stack immediately?

Or does it just load

For whatever reason

[nimble pivot]

public static final int HELLO = 56;

is initialized as

<clinit>
iload 56
put_static #fieldindex // Lsome/Class.HELLO

<someMethod>
get_static #fieldindex / Lsome/Class.HELLO

get_static doesn't use iload OR ldc

so actually 12 ways

there is also get_field

[inland field]

I KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, rewrite some of nms in bytecode for 0 reason and then also write it right inside of the java files inside of the methods for no good reason and use a custom gradle plugin to compile that properly

[nimble pivot]

you don't want to

a for loop is like what

[inland field]

CombustMC needs it

[nimble pivot]

15 lines of bytecode for

for(int i = 0; i < max; i++) {
  System.out.println(i);
}

[inland field]

Show the bytecode

[nimble pivot]

had it somewhere wait

// Loads System.out
GETSTATIC java/lang/System, out, Ljava/io/PrintStream;

// System.out, 0
LDC -1
loop:
    // System.out, 0, 1
    LDC 1

    // System.out, 1
    IADD

    // System.out, 1, 1 
    DUP

    // System.out, 1, 1, 10
    LDC 10

    // System.out, 1
    IF_ICMPGE end

    // System.out, 0, System.out, 0
    DUP2
    INVOKEVIRTUAL java/io/PrintStream, println, (I)V, false

    GOTO loop



// End of method
end:
RETURN

[inland field]

Why // and not ; for commends

[nimble pivot]

It's a custom bytecode assembler my friend made

also javap uses //

[inland field]

For telling us what class (descriptor) is used usually

[nimble pivot]

not really

[inland field]

Iirc

Well, there goes my internet

Bye

[nimble pivot]

it's just used so you don't have to go and look at the constant pool and analyze the stack manually lmao

[inland field]

Oh gosh

[regal plume]

wait nobody told me this channel is about bytecode

[nimble pivot]

I am going so crazy from bytecode all my talk is bytecode

[inland field]

It isn't

[nimble pivot]

do you want to know that there are only two dconst_x instructions and three fconst_x instructions?

[regal plume]

ig they didnt have enough bits to represent all opcodes that way

mostly historical stuff

[nimble pivot]

they do, though

[regal plume]

the whole byte range for opcodes is already occupied no?

[nimble pivot]

well, 48 more are allowed

[inland field]

I think a few are free

Some reserved

[regal plume]

well that shouldve been filled after java 8

[nimble pivot]

as of java 21

[inland field]

Most shit is just compiler tricks, not really bytecode

[nimble pivot]

^

DO YOU KNOW

switch statements are so fancy

they get TWO instructions

[regal plume]

are there any holes then? as it ends in ff

[nimble pivot]

tableswitch
lookupswitch

[nimble pivot]

yeah?

last instruction iirc is like c4?

[regal plume]

guess i didnt notice

[inland field]

Difference

[nimble pivot]

ah wait no

they are ordered randomly

[nimble pivot]

if I remember correctly

tableswitch is used for enums

and when the difference between numbers is always 1

lookupswitch is used as an O(log n) alternative for every other case

[inland field]

ok

[regal plume]

my definition in order https://pastes.dev/gxa5A5Gnqw

[nimble pivot]

but why

[inland field]

Normal instructions end at c9

[regal plume]

ah i see

[nimble pivot]

whyyy

[regal plume]

what

[nimble pivot]

why the opcodes like that

making your own jvm?

[regal plume]

kinda

[nimble pivot]

wyd then

[regal plume]

exactly that

[nimble pivot]

eyyy fun

[woven yew]

ICONST_0 to ICONST_5 load their respective number
why specific instructions just for 0-5

[inland field]

Performance

There is just a certain set of numbers that get their own constant values

[woven yew]

i hate this

[inland field]

I love it

[regal plume]

avoiding to fetch another byte which says what index

[frail dune]

@woven yew when can we start

[woven yew]

tbh you can start whenever you want, i'll join in as soon as i'm done with UE

remember that you're the project manager

you are responsible for distributing workloads

[frail dune]

yes but remember that i'm trying to be the worst PM possible

i'll try to get a 1.8 spigot fork running and rename the cb package to v_1_7_10

[woven yew]

no it's not what we are doing
we are trying to make the worst project possible, so by being a bad PM you are failing at that task, thus making the best project possible

[frail dune]

oh

[woven yew]

so you actually have to do your job properly

[frail dune]

mb

[frail dune]

nono i'll name it v1_77_10 bc typo

[woven yew]

lmao

[frail dune]

okay i'll try 🫡

[acoustic tartan]

Bruh

We should try CVN on that after lol

He will panic

[frail dune]

wut

[acoustic tartan]

We should mark the most used methods as @Deprecated

[frail dune]

yeah we planned that

[acoustic tartan]

Perfect

I'm too late 😔

[frail dune]

check da pins