help-development

[noble lantern]

that site

or not

okay

is that site bad or something??

[spiral vault]

?

[noble lantern]

google "1.19 spigot"

Should be first link on top

idk why this chat blocks the name of that website

[earnest forum]

get bukkit?

thats dumb

[noble lantern]

yeah that site

[spiral vault]

I tried to make a guide from the spigot site and nothing came of it. (Tried through Buildtool)

[earnest forum]

search up "spigot download"

first link

not spigot

[spiral vault]

bukkit?

[noble lantern]

Why is the chat blocking that link

[earnest forum]

yes

[eternal oxide]

Bad, Bad site

?bt run buildtools

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/

[noble lantern]

Why so? Ive used it for years now

[earnest forum]

for just server jar

not for development

[noble lantern]

^

[eternal oxide]

yes

Distribution is illegal. Always build your own

[spiral vault]

i tried buildtools

[noble lantern]

illegal for them to host, but not illegal for us to posses or download

[spiral vault]

But the download is stuck

[eternal oxide]

wait a while BT can take a little while

[ivory sleet]

For how long?

Cuz you need to be a bit patient

[noble lantern]

BT normally takes me like 5-10 mins

[humble heath]

any idea how to fix this trying to update an abandond plugin

[ivory sleet]

Use materials instead

getType()

And then check what material id 68 is

[noble lantern]

its not a ItemStack

That is getting the numerical ID of a Material

which is for old asf minecraft

like back when if you wanted lapis lazuli you needed to add a duarbility tag lmao

[quaint mantle]

any tuts out there teaching you how to add multiple version support to ur plugin?

[noble lantern]

You basically just develop for the lowest version you want to support

[quaint mantle]

no but I wanna add more versions

like my plugin is currently 1.17

I want to add 1.8 support 3

*2

[humble heath]

so what would i need to do to change all of it then

[noble lantern]

so you need to revert to 1.8

its a horribly idea

dont do it

[ivory sleet]

Usually youd have to use maven/gradle

[noble lantern]

someone get the bstats graph

[ivory sleet]

And write a bunch of abstractions

Or use reflection

But then you lose compile safety

[noble lantern]

If (MinecraftVersion.currentVersion() >= 1_12_2) do1_12_2FeatureOnlyHere()

ez

[tacit drift]

you won't be able to compile

[noble lantern]

you can compile with that code above

its from NBApi

that class is in NBTApi, the MinecraftVersion one

[quaint mantle]

I cant cause the items I have added are from 1.17 only

[noble lantern]

Are they config options?

[quaint mantle]

nop

[noble lantern]

or hardcoded ma-

so hardcoded

[ivory sleet]

Well you won’t be able to support 1.8 then regardless

Presupposing you use materials from more modern versions

[noble lantern]

yeah theres a bunch of api changes from the 2

[ivory sleet]

Well unless you’d wanna change that ofc

[noble lantern]

like inventory names and new events

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/Material.html#getMaterial(java.lang.String)

This method is helpful for multi version materials

If the materials invalid for the server it should just return null

and you can handle it from there

[ivory sleet]

Yeah a lot of things have been changed and obviated

[noble lantern]

You can borrow NBTApi's MinecraftVersion class, but its not gonna work fully for 1.8 -> 1.17 if your project is on 1.17 right now

eg inventory name getting was changed to getView().getName() in like 1.12

i see that error a lot in older plugins

and PrepareAnvilEvent is another big one i see alot too

or AnvilPrepareEvent, whatever tf its name is

oh god 1.8 anvil handling ._.

[shadow zinc]

With this code, how am I meant to get a return from world? https://paste.md-5.net/yixabuxuta.java

or any other flag

and this line confuses me

        PROCESSORS.get(element).andThen((acc, list) -> list.clear()).accept(accumulator, commandArgs);

I've never seen this before

andThen

Accept

I googled it but I'm not getting a great result

[ivory sleet]

This looks like code from smile

[eternal oxide]

it is

He's teaching brain surgery to miners

[noble lantern]

hahaha

[shadow zinc]

I'm not entirely a beginner, I'm somewhere near intermediate

obviously not at whatever level that is

[ivory sleet]

Well you clearly haven’t touched the BiConsumer but yeah

[shadow zinc]

nope

guess I never needed it until now

[ivory sleet]

It’s usually not needed

Because code can often be represented with more clear intent

[noble lantern]

Ive never used them before either tbf

[shadow zinc]

So I did a quick google and it says it doesnt return a value, BiConsumer

[ivory sleet]

Yes

It consumers two values

[noble lantern]

Optionals and Completable future

[eternal oxide]

I understand that code, but I'd never use it

[ivory sleet]

HOWEVER

the biconsumer instance itself does have some methods

Such as andThen

Since a BiConsumer is effectively just a class with a single method that you override

And andThen is just a helper method at most

[eternal oxide]

its basically saying, get "this" and then do...

[shadow zinc]

so how do I get a return?

[eternal oxide]

You don;t "get a return" from teh Processor. Its passing into a lambda

which it then processes with teh accumulator, args

[shadow zinc]

So is there another way?

[eternal oxide]

I'd have to read back what you are actually attempting to do

[shadow zinc]

flags

in commands

[eternal oxide]

ok#

well all your code goes in the WorldCreationAccumulator

in teh complete method you do your actual world creation

force, world, type you process teh values passed to define your world creation

[shadow zinc]

right

thats one way

and just to be clear im doing world creation stuff

it was just the example he gave me

[eternal oxide]

eg```java
private WorldType = WorldType.NORMAL;
public void type(String name) {
type = WorldType.valueOf(name);
}

[shadow zinc]

and I can show you my actual code if it helps give you some perspective

so

Thats a bit annoying

[ivory sleet]

Sure

[shadow zinc]

https://paste.md-5.net/ejogutegew.java

[ivory sleet]

Actually

[compact cape]

Does assert key word work in the plugin?

[shadow zinc]

i think so

I normally use if

[compact cape]

But it doesn't seem so It keeps skipping my checks

[ivory sleet]

https://youtu.be/tj5sLSFjVj4 @shadow zinc

[shadow zinc]

broadcast length of args

[shadow zinc]

whats this for?

[ivory sleet]

For you to learn at a deeper level what runnable, consumer, bi consumer, function, bifunction really have to offer

[ivory sleet]

Yes

But you need a jvm flag to enable it

But it’s usually not prefer to use assert in actual production because it slows down the code a bit

[compact cape]

So it might not work... 😦

[ivory sleet]

Precisely

[compact cape]

I just wanted to minimize the lines 🤷

[ivory sleet]

You can write a validation function other wise

static void validate(boolean expression)

or sth

[frozen cedar]

how to prevent player from getting stuck in the wall when teleporting to random coordinates?

[compact cape]

Tbh I have one 😂 But assert looked cooler

[ivory sleet]

You’d have to check adjacent locations recursively until you find a 1x1x2 spot

[ivory sleet]

Ye

It’s one of the ancient keywords people stopped using due to JUnit being significantly more reliable and performant

(As assert was mainly used for tests)

[frozen cedar]

I have so a very long teleport

[noble lantern]

i love this guy

[ivory sleet]

He’s cool

Tho I’m still awaiting for him to drop some merch

[noble lantern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpS0Jh5yqIw

I would want merch with quotes from this video

[ivory sleet]

Lol

[compact cape]

Well I guess I should use this method 🤷 (AssertionError is handled by plugin as a command failure and won't cause any issues)

[ivory sleet]

Ugh

You don’t use errors like that

[noble lantern]

sir you have a double s in your string

[ivory sleet]

Not the assertion error

It’s not meant to be caught like other normal unchecked exceptions

[compact cape]

Why not?

[ivory sleet]

If it throws it means something went terribly wrong under wrong assumptions

[compact cape]

Which I assumed in the command 🤷

[ivory sleet]

For instance the class Objects.java throws it in its constructor as a way to tell that it should not work to create an instance of Objects

[compact cape]

The handler only handle the commands not general

[ivory sleet]

(Not to be confused with Object)

you should have your own runtime exception instead

Then

It’s much more expressive

and reusable for that part

[noble lantern]

i have a cool name

CommandException

: D

[ivory sleet]

Ye

[quiet ice]

Though UnsupportedOperationException is better suited there

[noble lantern]

doesnt that extend runtime exception

[ivory sleet]

Well I mean

UOE is used for when preview features aren’t enabled in the jdk

[quiet ice]

It Looks very much as If IllegalArgumentException is the correct one

[ivory sleet]

For utility classes to dissuade their instantiations assertion error is used

[quiet ice]

Or in the collections framework

[ivory sleet]

Then whether that’s the best choice is another part

[ivory sleet]

Ye

[compact cape]

I guess I'll use CommandException then 😉

[ivory sleet]

[compact cape]

I thought assert will work... but since it does not, Custom exceptions are ok

[ivory sleet]

Ye

[frozen cedar]

ChatColor#of in 1.18?

[ivory sleet]

Assert is pretty much useless anyhow

Yes

You’d use bungee chat tho @frozen cedar

(Since as aforementioned we have JUnit)

[quiet ice]

It May Prove usefull for IDEs

[compact cape]

My assumption was that assert will work so I made my API catch AssertionError and handle that

[quiet ice]

Given that assert will be a NOP in prod

[ivory sleet]

Hmm how do you mean? Like to disable inspections?

[compact cape]

But I can change the API 🤷

[quiet ice]

Well to explain to the IDE that a value is actually not null

[ivory sleet]

Well Objects::requireNonNull exists

[quiet ice]

Requires EEA

[ivory sleet]

EEA?

[quiet ice]

Eclipse external annotations

[crude charm]

I want to make a system where players can put an item in a menu and can retrieve those items through a different means later and when they reopen the menu, the same items with the same nbt properties will be there. How should I go about storing this? I want it to be scalable to hundreds and thousands of players, not just a config file, system memory or something that can easily break

[quiet ice]

And given that Objects#requireNonNull is a Generic Method, Eclipse will get a Heart Attack either way

I usually use my own requireNonNull Method due to that

[ivory sleet]

sounds like a bit of a problem concerning Eclipse

[quiet ice]

It's an issue that is inherent to null checking

[ivory sleet]

Well in IntelliJ requireNonNull, a null check or well if you really need… assert, all three work (or @SuppressWarnings)

Myeah null sucks anywa

[hybrid spoke]

hopefully you guys null every var after used

[quiet ice]

Sorry, I only use the operand stack

(Not to be confused with the frame Stack)

[ivory sleet]

Scalability in terms of what? Throughput?

First you do need the vertical scalability, but assumes you’ve maxed that out sounds like you wanna have some underlying datastructure there

[quaint mantle]

anyone can help pls ^
why am I getting this error?

[sage dragon]

First of all, you're using Paper (This is spigotmc), second you're using 1.8.

Third, something you did threw a NullPointerException. Can't tell more as I don't know your code

[eternal oxide]

You missed some of the error. the very next line tells you where teh error originated

[limpid bronze]

Hey, I'm trying to verify if a item has a specific display name but the name has color. I tried to add the color to the verification and only the string without color but these 2 tries doesn't work. How do I do that?

[eternal oxide]

don;t identify items by their name

[earnest forum]

?pdc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[eternal oxide]

?pdc store a flag in the PDC

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

[limpid bronze]

Oh okay thanks

[limber owl]

how can I replace/remove biome from generating, like removing the oceans in blockpopulator

[eternal oxide]

Biome is an Enum so I guess you'd have to custom gen your world if you want to exclude a biome.

[limber owl]

frick

[eternal oxide]

well you could specify the biomes to use in teh WorldCreator generator settings

[limber owl]

how

[eternal oxide]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/WorldCreator.html#generatorSettings(java.lang.String)

um, seems they only work for flat worlds

[limber owl]

frick again

[cunning canopy]

what is the best way to identify a player?

is there like a unique id or something?

[formal bear]

uuid

[cunning canopy]

how do I obtain it?

[tardy delta]

Player#getUniqueId

^^

[cunning canopy]

thanks

[tardy delta]

never store player instances in some kind of collection too

[cunning canopy]

will it be the same when they rejoin?

[daring maple]

yeah

[tardy delta]

the uuid? yes

not the player instance

[cunning canopy]

can you obtain a player instance from a uid?

[daring maple]

Its UUID is persistent across all minecraft servers

And yes

[cunning canopy]

thanks ppl

[tardy delta]

Bukkit.getPlayer(uuid) yes

[eternal oxide]

WorldCreeator has a BiomeProvider you can set.

[tardy delta]

i guess check the docs

[cunning canopy]

is it of the builtin java type UUID?

[tardy delta]

yes

[limber owl]

I found this

Field biomesField = BiomeBase.class.getDeclaredField("biomes");
biomesField.setAccessible(true);

if (biomesField.get(null) instanceof BiomeBase[]) {
    BiomeBase[] biomes = (BiomeBase[]) biomesField.get(null);
    biomes[BiomeBase.DEEP_OCEAN.id] = BiomeBase.PLAINS;
    biomes[BiomeBase.OCEAN.id] = BiomeBase.FOREST;

    biomesField.set(null, biomes);
}

but I have only Biome class and no BiomeBase

don't mention 1.8 here or people will send you death threats 👀

[wide gyro]

💀

[daring maple]

lmao

[limber owl]

because people can't stand someone uses other version than them

[tardy delta]

that version is older than my grandma thats the issue

[limber owl]

you see?

[hybrid spoke]

cringe who uses 1.8

im on 1.5.2

[limber owl]

this one is good fr 💀

[dry forum]

https://pastebin.com/kG4e1Z4t anyone know why this would be lagging my server? its supose to load a schematic using FAWE over a period of time so its kind of in rows which it does fine on a small scale but i have a relatively small schematic (20x20x40) ish and it crashes my server ;p im loading it over 1000 ticks so its not like its all being set at once

[gleaming grove]

Does somebody have run Spring Framework inside plugin?

[vocal cloud]

Why would you run spring inside a plugin? Do you really need all the features of spring?

[eternal oxide]

Custom BiomeProvider https://github.com/DerFrZocker/Single-Biome-World

[gleaming grove]

Like its more handy then using raw implementation of http server or websocket

[vocal cloud]

It's pretty bulky for a plugin.

[gleaming grove]

Ye I know

[vocal cloud]

Doesn't justify it

Also did you run 1.8.8 build tools?

What does doesn't work mean

What? You shouldn't be compiling build tools?

Just download the jar from spigot

What's the error

[wind pond]

check also your java version you is trying to compile 1.8.8 version because needs java1.8 or lower

you have java 9 or higher version installed?

maybe versions are confliting in %PATH%

😄

oh yeah, its patch script

[vocal cloud]

And this is the latest version of buildtools from the website?

[wind pond]

seems to someone wrote \r manually in file instead of enter newline?

[daring maple]

Dont you wanna use git bash to run it tho?

Instead of Windows Batch

[wind pond]

well inst same

git bash will run .sh files

[vocal cloud]

You used this? https://hub.spigotmc.org/jenkins/job/BuildTools/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/BuildTools.jar

Aren't you on windows?

Try downloading the BT from above.

[wind pond]

seems that is considering \r (carrigage return) as non newline char

[carmine valley]

hey guys, I'm trying to access the firstPlayerSpawn and secondPlayerSpawn from a different class and for some reason I can't even access them in my getter method, I tried using public but that's not possible. any ideas on what I should do? ```java
public class SetLocationCommand implements CommandExecutor{

@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args) {
    if(sender instanceof Player) {
        Player p = (Player) sender;
        switch(args[0]){
            case "1":
                Location firstPlayerSpawn = p.getLocation();
                break;
            case "2":
                Location secondPlayerSpawn = p.getLocation();
                break;
    }}
    return true;
}
public static Location getLocation(byte b){
    switch(b){
        case 1:
            return firstPlayerSpawn;
            break;
        case 2:
            return secondPlayerSpawn;
            break;
    }
}

}

[vocal cloud]

I just compiled 1.8.8

[vocal cloud]

Are they public and static?

[daring maple]

They are variables

[wind pond]

i think static will not work

[tardy delta]

oh god

[daring maple]

Not fields

[wind pond]

since its per player i think right?

[vocal cloud]

Either way they have to be via an instance or static

[carmine valley]

no these are supposed to be static locations

[vocal cloud]

[wind pond]

yeah

[wind pond]

you can do some static Map<UUID, PlayerPositions> and that class PlayerPositions will hold these two positions

[tardy delta]

dont have static locations, if another player executes that command, they will be changed

[wind pond]

and that Map you can make it static

[carmine valley]

they are not player-dependent, they are supposed to be global

[wind pond]

check this

[carmine valley]

that's the point

[wind pond]

then you check uuid in Map, if contains fine take and update values, or else add new

[tardy delta]

dont see a reason to use a switch or a byte too

[vocal cloud]

E F F E C I E N T

[wind pond]

also switch on java isn't well optimized by compiler

[tardy delta]

smh

switch is a lookup table

but for 2 values :/

[limber owl]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[carmine valley]

I will just initiate the variales outside the onCommand method and set it to them, screw getters and setters

[wind pond]

^

[tardy delta]

smells like a design problem

i used to do such things too

[carmine valley]

just a quick throw-together code

I will optimize it later

later

[wind pond]

l a t e r

🤣

i remember when i said this while i was doing my auto miner plugin

[vocal cloud]

Tech debt doesn't exist it can't hurt you

[carmine valley]

basically steal some spawnpoint code from another mini-game's code

[river oracle]

I smell large design flaws and bad practices

[quaint mantle]

oh gimme amin

[quaint mantle]

no lol its spigot

[wind pond]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/808856748965363743.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

oh no

[carmine valley]

bakin rn, want some?

[wind pond]

don't work emoji as image :/

[quaint mantle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/808856748965363743.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[eternal oxide]

not Spigot, thats paperspigot

[river oracle]

No keep that shot away from me

[quaint mantle]

ah

[vocal cloud]

[wind pond]

any ways to keep phyisics state on falling block on paper?

[river oracle]

Wtf is paper spigot

[tardy delta]

tf is paperspigot?

[wind pond]

i was doing an airdrop like system, but falling block just got teleported to floor

[sage dragon]

Who doesn't know what Paper||Spigot|| is?

[noble lantern]

SpigotPaper?

[tardy delta]

a spigot with a piece of paper in it

[wind pond]

an work around i did, was using an minecart with an blaze mounted in 🤣

[tardy delta]

🗞️

[sage dragon]

Yes

[vocal cloud]

What use is a wet piece of paper

[river oracle]

U know what paper spigot is

[wind pond]

😋

[noble lantern]

wtf is spigot

[wind pond]

its an spigot

😂

[river oracle]

I'm not even joking I actually have no clue lol

[sage dragon]

wtf is craftbukkit

[vocal cloud]

Where is the whereami command

[noble lantern]

its paper lmfao

[vocal cloud]

[wind pond]

what is minecraft

🤣

[river oracle]

Hmm I thought they were papermc

[daring maple]

They used to be paperspigot

[noble lantern]

Nah theyre name is PaperSpigot in logs

[river oracle]

Oh

[noble lantern]

or spigotpaper

[river oracle]

Never noticed

[noble lantern]

whatever the fuck

[eternal oxide]

pretty sure paperspigot is very old and no longer active

[noble lantern]

prolly legacy

[cunning canopy]

can I call a function from the main class from a command class?

[noble lantern]

maybe

[daring maple]

They still have its source code as a branch on github tho

[wind pond]

do u think global banning from mojang will be a good idea?

[noble lantern]

nope

[wind pond]

i could think lot of trolls reports every second, and people getting banned for no reasons

[river oracle]

?learn java

Oof

[noble lantern]

oneword

[cunning canopy]

well

[river oracle]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[river oracle]

Got me

[cunning canopy]

I know I prob can

[tardy delta]

Player#setFallDistance(0) not working to prevent fall damage?

[noble lantern]

its basic java knowing the answer to that (not you brush)

[cunning canopy]

but I dont know how

[wind pond]

maybe ticking every second

[noble lantern]

[river oracle]

Lol

[wind pond]

idk if fall distance is calculated every player move

[noble lantern]

Brush

you just wanna cancel fall damage?

[wind pond]

cancel damage event

[noble lantern]

EntityDamageEvent should have a getCause

[tardy delta]

cancel fall damage only when they stop vanishing

so thats where i used that method

[carmine valley]

I think that's a thing in Bedrock

because you can do /damage

and specify a cause

[river oracle]

No it's not lol

[tardy delta]

lol

bedrock player

[river oracle]

I think it's a bukkit api thing

[tardy delta]

yall thinking lol? im sure

[tacit drift]

there is /damage in bedrock

[carmine valley]

imagine

[noble lantern]

same thing in java its just not a command

you can damage a player with a specified Entity

[tacit drift]

but to prevent falldamage for unvanished players, add the unvanished players to a list that clears them from there after x seconds or after taking fall damage

and after that you can figure out what to do 👍

[tardy delta]

ah yes i post a pic of a warden

[noble lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-crying-tears-broken-gif-15062040

[somber sequoia]

Hey, I need to fetch a offline player by their name but I cant lag the server, is there any way to do that?

[tardy delta]

do it async

?scheduling

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[somber sequoia]

aight thanks

[chrome beacon]

Make sure to go back to the main thread when using the api

[somber sequoia]

youve got me confused now

how would i do that

[tardy delta]

nest runTask in runTaskAsync

[chrome beacon]

runTaskAsync -> getOfflinePlayer -> runTask -> do other stuff

[tardy delta]

or use some CompletableFuture whatever you want lol

[chrome beacon]

TaskChain :)

[tardy delta]

dunno what that is

[chrome beacon]

It hasn't been updated in a while though

[hybrid spoke]

negative value

[tardy delta]

and then fall damage is blocked?

[hybrid spoke]

https://tryitands.ee/

[chrome beacon]

https://github.com/aikar/TaskChain

[cunning canopy]

my command wont execute. it says the command does not exist even tho I did register it

[unborn kiln]

How would I go about doing that? Because every single video that I watch they all say to replace the texture of an existing block

[chrome beacon]

Did you set the command executor

[cunning canopy]

think so: getCommand("shstack").setExecutor(shstackCommand);

[chrome beacon]

And did you register that in your plugin.yml

[cunning canopy]

thats prob the problem lol

how do I do that?

is it commands: []?

[tardy delta]

?plugin.yml

[last ledge]

system.put.print('Plugin Enabled'){ throwing error

[noble lantern]

uh

You dont see why?

[cunning canopy]

prob the curly brace

[chrome beacon]

I have a feeling someone has lacking Java skills

[quaint mantle]

'put'

[tardy delta]

like this isnt ugly lmao

[last ledge]

Oh it should be comma, my bad

[chrome beacon]

custom block models minecraft <- googled that and found quite a few guides

[noble lantern]

what

[chrome beacon]

No

[noble lantern]

For one

system is not a valid referance

its System

two

[last ledge]

I started Java Yestarday, I'm trying to build my first plugin today 🙂

[chrome beacon]

Oh no

[tardy delta]

lmao

[noble lantern]

Its not put, its out as in the out cons-

nvm

im not gonna explain it lol

[chrome beacon]

You did not learn enough Java in one day

[last ledge]

I did, it was learn java under 14hrs Video

[quaint mantle]

you can't learn enough Java in one day

[last ledge]

quite informative

[noble lantern]

bro

[tardy delta]

videos are bad

[noble lantern]

this gotta be a troll

[hybrid spoke]

you a pro now

[eternal oxide]

Keep going. You'll get there

[quaint mantle]

it did not pay off clearly, also search for 'tutorial hell', watching one video does not get information in your brain

[noble lantern]

Just dont jump right to a minecraft plugin

You should learn from other base java projects first

Its like trying to run when you cant walk

[hybrid spoke]

i did

[last ledge]

Yup yestarday I completed Java, today I'll start with Java Script

quite productive day

[quaint mantle]

this is a joke

[noble lantern]

troll confirmed

[hybrid spoke]

i know how to program in spigot

[noble lantern]

Can there be a rule like no trolling in here

in the description

[cunning canopy]

I like trying and faling, googling tons, repeating until it sits in my brain

[noble lantern]

stg someone always coming in here thinking this type of stuff is funny

[noble lantern]

Which is how it should be

No one is able to learn a language in 14 hours

Your brain needs to sleep, and reproduce over and over again before it actually learns

[hybrid spoke]

wasnt there a guy who learned spanish within 2 days

[last ledge]

I did, now I'll start with Java Script today, ahh its 12hrs long video ;-;

but gotta do it, aim high.

[noble lantern]

actual languages are different

i could prolly learn a basic convo in spanish in a day

[hybrid spoke]

yes much easier

[tardy delta]

is tomorrow going to be C?

[noble lantern]

ill sound stupid and no accents, and inpror grammar but ide still do it

[quaint mantle]

this is a help channel, can you at least go to general...

[hybrid spoke]

why? if you know java, you know javascript. both is java.

[noble lantern]

no tommorrow is machine code

actually no

[last ledge]

No, one is java language, one is java script

[noble lantern]

tmrw hes learning to write java from smali code

[tardy delta]

writing binary

[somber sequoia]

hes gonna jump into binary

[eternal oxide]

Tomorrow he finishes AI

[hybrid spoke]

both have java in their name so both is java.

[noble lantern]

^^^^^

[somber sequoia]

5 hour long binary video

[noble lantern]

i dont get why people dont understand this common mistake

[quaint mantle]

anyways, I have a question
I want to include a library in a plugin. the library itself is not a plugin, so when I put it in the plugins folder it gets angry. How do I supply a library jar for a plugin to use?

[noble lantern]

Shade it into your plugin

[hybrid spoke]

shade it in

[river oracle]

Shade it with maven or gradle

[somber sequoia]

you could try shading it

[last ledge]

Which one should I start first Java Script or C?

[noble lantern]

LOL

[eternal oxide]

add it in your plugin.yml libraries section

[somber sequoia]

i would try assembly

[ivory sleet]

CScript maybe? /s

[river oracle]

Java Script more like Java Shit

[noble lantern]

the entirety of this chat: shade

[quaint mantle]

it is used by multiple plugins

[chrome beacon]

Why not Holy C

[tardy delta]

lets go write assembly

[ivory sleet]

Good point lol

[noble lantern]

Name one mainstream program that uses raw C

[somber sequoia]

can we rewrite spigot in assembly

[river oracle]

I don't know

I don't use C lol

[last ledge]

netflix

[noble lantern]

same

[hybrid spoke]

windows

[noble lantern]

no

[quaint mantle]

does this stop it from trying to load as plugin?

[noble lantern]

netflix uses a lot of Javascript though in the form of NodeJS

same with paypal

[ivory sleet]

Does objective C count as C?

[noble lantern]

discord

[noble lantern]

oh shit true

[eternal oxide]

yes, it tells spigot to download it for yoru plugin

[noble lantern]

yeah i guess most os's would use native c

[tardy delta]

C++ kek

[last ledge]

Anyways guys gtg, was just kidding, mb

[noble lantern]

since its closest to the cpu

[somber sequoia]

i mean they are using nginx

and nginx is c

[quaint mantle]

but the library itself is not a plugin

[noble lantern]

is nginx made in c?

always thought it was c++

[somber sequoia]

its c

[eternal oxide]

Yes, thats why the section in the plugin.yml is called libraries

[noble lantern]

interesting didnt know that

prolly explains why its so smooth ngl

[quaint mantle]

where does it download them from

I only have it locally

[eternal oxide]

maven

[quaint mantle]

oh ok

[eternal oxide]

if its a local libray you have to shade it into your jar

[quaint mantle]

eh

hmm I don't really want to shade because I want it to be used in multiple plugins on the server

[somber sequoia]

there was a way to put the lib into the server

dont remember how it was done tho

[river oracle]

Cope then

[eternal oxide]

yes, create a libraries folder and put it in there

[river oracle]

Ir that

[noble lantern]

that would require a custom jar

wouldnt work if you wanted it public

but you wuld just build spigot yourself

[somber sequoia]

ya that might be it

[noble lantern]

with your added maven import to it set to shade into the spigot jar

[quaint mantle]

Nevermind I will just make a base plugin that shades the library, and use the library via that

[quaint mantle]

I never cope :P

[somber sequoia]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-external-libraries/

you can create a plugin for it ig

[hybrid spoke]

what gambling games would be good to lose your inventory with

[quaint mantle]

I read this one, but it does not specify how to include it in an external server later on

this only works on a local server I think

[tardy delta]

my code full of bugs i love it

[somber sequoia]

you just put the plugin into the plugins folder

[noble lantern]

hmmm

cow flip

[somber sequoia]

its a plugin that works as a library iirc

[quaint mantle]

no I mean the library that's not a plugin

yeah ok

[hybrid spoke]

cow flip?

[noble lantern]

add the dinnerbone tag to a cow and make it like a heads or tales thing

[hybrid spoke]

for now i have roulette(roll), coin flip and blackjack

[hybrid spoke]

oh good one

[noble lantern]

im telling you

cow flip

[hybrid spoke]

like a spinning cow

until it lands

[somber sequoia]

wtf thats great

how do you think of that

[noble lantern]

yep, can add in a slowing effect too

[crude charm]

How should I go about returning the result of the loop in my method which only accepts an int as a value?

[noble lantern]

I think of some rly whack shit

stick around

next idea i come up with might be pure stupidity

[hybrid spoke]

burchard wanna contribute

[tardy delta]

bruh me trying to get a weakreference's value which has no value

[quaint mantle]

return a list

what are you trying to do

[noble lantern]

have a holder variable

int x;

x = i

return x

[tardy delta]

why is finalize() deprecated too?

[noble lantern]

make the initial value -1

[crude charm]

It's a util I have for guis but I only wanna fill those slots, it uses an interface which accepts an int for the slot of the item

[noble lantern]

if getThing == -1 it was invalid

[quaint mantle]

yeah then make some specified "invalid" value ^^

[noble lantern]

public int getSlot()
   int[] stuff = {. . .}
   for (shit) {
       return thatNumberFromShit;
   }
    return -1;
}

[crude charm]

That would work...?

[noble lantern]

-1 = your error number

yes

if not

you can do this:

[crude charm]

like that?

[noble lantern]

public int getSlot()
   int[] stuff = {. . .}
    int returnValue = -1;
   for (shit) {
       returnValue = thatNumberFromShit;
   }
    return returnValue;
}

this way is dirtier tho

[noble lantern]

yes like that

wait

[crude charm]

Aight I'll give it a try, thanks

[hybrid spoke]

@noble lantern

[noble lantern]

what exactly are you wanting to return

[noble lantern]

not rn working on other things atm 😦

[hybrid spoke]

shame on you

[noble lantern]

cause rn that will always return 13

[crude charm]

It's an int for the slot in which an item will go in

[noble lantern]

So your trying to just get a random slot from there or?

[tardy delta]

is WeakReference#clear actually useful or can it be ignored?

[crude charm]

no, the slots in my array

[noble lantern]

WeakReferances get cleared when no longer in jvm

[noble lantern]

oh

then why wouldnt you just return the array?

[tardy delta]

when no longer in jvm?

[noble lantern]

IE not in any scope anymore

sorry brain fried

[quaint mantle]

nothing holds a reference to it anymore

[crude charm]

Cant, my util works off an abstract class that accepts an int

[tardy delta]

so no need to actually call clear() by your code?

[quaint mantle]

no

[paper viper]

^

GC gets rid of it

[noble lantern]

Well your gonna have to make a way to get a value other than the first one

[paper viper]

That’s why it’s useful for storing Player, World, and other objects similarity

[noble lantern]

cause rn that only returns the first number and thats it

if your wanting to return all those your gonna need something other than a int

[tardy delta]

ok that will solve my issue then

[noble lantern]

ie array

[crude charm]

Aight, I'll just copy and paste my code for something that accepts an array and I recon that'll work

thanks

[noble lantern]

you can transform your code lib

to take a Integer varargs

it would be simple just pass varargs to your single int method in a for loop

that way you can directly work with the array

[crude charm]

I'll see

[quaint mantle]

ehm how would I access a shaded library from another project

[noble lantern]

its already in the scope once shaded

you can just use it in that project

[quaint mantle]

but like

[noble lantern]

in that case

ik what you mean

you need to have the other plugin have a scope of provided, and get the instance of the lib from the main plugin

it can be shaded in to, but dont initialize it

but provided is the typical use case for things like that

[quaint mantle]

Base (not a plugin)
BasePlugin (shades Base (Acts as library to access Base))
OtherPlugin (uses BasePlugin, wants to interact with Base (static methods etc..))

[hybrid spoke]

basically a middleman

[quaint mantle]

yes

[noble lantern]

OtherPlugin would import Base as a provided scope (Can be shaded but dont initialize it in this plugin)

OtherPlugin would get a static variable of your lib from its main class in BasePlugin

[quaint mantle]

oh ofc Base is in the scope because BasePlugin has it

[tardy delta]

a playerquit even is fired for everyone when the server stops right?

[noble lantern]

should

[noble lantern]

Yep

just

make sure

OtherPlugin hard depends on BasePlugin

and itll be gucci

[quaint mantle]

nice thanks!

[noble lantern]

if its not then just shade and get the instance

but provided should be fine

[somber sequoia]

im pretty sure it doesnt

[quaint mantle]

maven shading and that kinda stuff is quite overwhelming tbh

[noble lantern]

its simple once you get used to it

[quaint mantle]

yeah Im not at the stage where I am used to it yet :P

lets try

[crude charm]

This might be a stupid question but how do I let players move items in their inventory but not in the menu? and how can I go about differentiating the 2?

[noble lantern]

getView().getTopInventory()

[crude charm]

forgot about that

lmfao

I am stupid

thanks

[noble lantern]

youll have to check if they did click on top inventory though ofc

[crude charm]

ofc

[noble lantern]

wtf

how possible

nvm

holy shit whoosh

?learnjavamoment

[quaint mantle]

what

OH it shaded les goo

[noble lantern]

i was wondering how i could initialize a static variable in a non static method lmao

[tardy delta]

android

[noble lantern]

indeed

annoying asf

[tardy delta]

basic lmao

[quaint mantle]

ehm^^

[tardy delta]

i gotta do android next year

and i dont want

[noble lantern]

yeah took me a good few seconds to realize that thats possible lmfao

android is aids

anything that requires waiting

needs to be async

or the whole app freezes

[tardy delta]

gotta do ios next year too 🥺

[hybrid spoke]

IOS sucks

android is okay

[tardy delta]

fking college

web development too 🥺

[hybrid spoke]

if you ever have an app where you support apple

[tardy delta]

only like the programming and networks stuff

[hybrid spoke]

just drop the support

[tardy delta]

fun

[cunning canopy]

If I want to replicate a repeating commandblock I would put stuff in a while loop right?

[tardy delta]

no ?scheduling

?scheduling

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[tardy delta]

while loop on the main thread will block the server

[cunning canopy]

Ooo

[noble lantern]

oh so your telling me i cant do this

[tardy delta]

dunno why a commandblock if you can do it by code too

[noble lantern]

fuck

[tardy delta]

oh no

isnt Task like a completablefuture?

[noble lantern]

i needed to be able to use it differently

[tardy delta]

ig the impl is terribly bad

[noble lantern]

i wanted to change around the normal callback listener as i wanted this method to be blocking and return a value

without it its hard to return a value cause its locked in lambda

this is fine to be blocking for this method

just sucks i gotta resort to sleeper thread

[ivory sleet]

Maybe it possible to await the task with a dead line?

[noble lantern]

never done await in java before

[ivory sleet]

Or does the Task class not define such methods?

I mean await means blocking

[noble lantern]

Nah doesnt contain those method just ability to add onComplete listeners

[ivory sleet]

You wait on another thread for it to complete a task

Ah that sucks

[noble lantern]

as well as a shitload of other listeners

Its not a normal Java Task its some funky Google transformed task

import com.google.android.gms.tasks.Task;

[ivory sleet]

Yeah figures

[tardy delta]

CompletableFuture#whenComplete but android...

[noble lantern]

theyre entire impl sucks for this ngl

[tardy delta]

gotta love next year college

[crude charm]

Is it possible / safe to use paypal api to processes payments ingame? I havent dug into it too deep so it might not even be possible

[noble lantern]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[noble lantern]

https://paste.md-5.net/lodobogite.java

have fun

[tardy delta]

what the

i dont understand why they are using the R. ...

[noble lantern]

Resource

its a dynamic thing

referances front end ids

[tardy delta]

lazy fuckers can even type Reource

[noble lantern]

so like if you want login_button

R.id.login_button

actual front end doesnt suck tho

please ignore my shit styling

And its layed out using xml: https://paste.md-5.net/ifedebazac.xml

But the editor lets you draw/drag around and shit

[grizzled lintel]

Sorry for the sudden chat.
Now my question is, how do I get the behavior that when I click on the colored glass, it takes me to another server registered in BungeeCord?

||Also I do not speak English so please forgive me for the difficulty in replying and reading the conversation...||

[crude charm]

pmc

[tardy delta]

do you already have the inventory being set up?

[chrome beacon]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

[noble lantern]

No but inventory is fairly simple

database is mongoDB so its just an array of objects

[crude charm]

yeah bmc not pmc I'm stupid, same idea

[noble lantern]

the hard part is gonna be the things i want to call units

The game is gonna be a botnet simulator in a sense, i want people to be able to have virtual pcs and they can be upgraded individually/in mass

Thats gonna sucks because people can potentially have thousands of those objects and i need to figure out how ill compress it

[chrome beacon]

Have you seen how many objects minecraft has at once

[noble lantern]

Big Massive Couch

[chrome beacon]

A few thousand won't be a problem

[noble lantern]

What about up to lets say a million?

the objects wont be fairly large

[crude charm]

[noble lantern]

just a few integer fields

BigInteger*

[chrome beacon]

Minecraft had about a Million blocks alone loaded when I last looked at a memory dump

Anyways make your application first. You can worry about tiny optimizations later

[tulip hinge]

does someone know how to use NBT components with the component system from net.md_5.bungee.api.chat? There are components for scores and keybinds but not for NBT data...
Can I maybe send JSON directly? or create my own Component by extending BaseComponent even though it's deprecated?

[worldly ingot]

Don't know if you figured this out, but it looks like you can do Tasks.await(task, 10, TimeUnit.SECONDS);

(the time is optional by the way)

[noble lantern]

Sadly its a google Task

Not a Java task

[worldly ingot]

I know

Tasks is a Google class

[noble lantern]

oh fr

And that methods blocking i assume

[worldly ingot]

Yeah. Tasks.await(task) should work

Yes, it's blocking

https://developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gms/tasks/Tasks#await(com.google.android.gms.tasks.Task<TResult>)

[noble lantern]

oh god yes

so much nicer

thank you for that

[worldly ingot]

o/

[noble lantern]

prolly would of never found that

oh thats microseconds, should be milli

stupid auto complete

[opal juniper]

was about to say that

[tardy delta]

essentials code is fun to look at 🤓

[noble lantern]

when your on your 4th week of java and pissed at the code

so you just return anywhere to make the code work

[tardy delta]

i have such things in my code too

[noble lantern]

ive been trying to avoid angry code syndrome

[noble lantern]

TCP Client waiting for a response from that server: Hello? u there?

time to finish this stupid google oauth up im tired of working on it

[tardy delta]

lmao this looks so stupid why dont they use a completablefuture

[noble lantern]

And dont forget

[tardy delta]

has litterally all the stuff

[noble lantern]

they have 5 other ways of doing that

with 2 other libaries that can do that

its a mess

[tardy delta]

smh

[noble lantern]

theyre official docs suck

i had to figure this out on combination of sheer luck, looking at multiple google docs, and stack overflow posts from 2014

theyre actual REST is documented good

but theyre java lib sucks

[tardy delta]

oh no hopefully they wont let me code in kotlin at college

[noble lantern]

theres legit methods that dont exist on theyre guide when you go to try it

[opal juniper]

let or make

[crude charm]

Is there a method built into spigot to check for a specific armour type?

Like chest, helmet so on

[opal juniper]

nope

[crude charm]

Aight

[opal juniper]

just look at teh material

[noble lantern]

^

split("_")

[crude charm]

Bit messy if I'm checking for every type of chestplate

[noble lantern]

if arg[arg.length -1].endsWith("LEGGINGS");

or just

enum.getName()

then endsWith

[crude charm]

Yeah I was gonna check name comtains as I'll have custom names

but itll still have chestplate, leggings whatever somewhere

[noble lantern]

when someone gonna ask for help with networking

[noble lantern]

essentials code?

[tardy delta]

ye

[noble lantern]

smh

can someone just make a new essentialsx from scratch

[crude charm]

Like Fiery boots of the fiery order of souls powered by magic from the cave of tern eaten by todert owned by {player}

[noble lantern]

the mc community doesnt deserve this

[crude charm]

I have

🙂

but It's only for me

[noble lantern]

make it popular

ugh

[crude charm]

has alot more just every essentials command tho

[hybrid spoke]

for what

[tardy delta]

setFallDistance(-1) not working too lol

[noble lantern]

sir

we went through this earlier cancel the damage event

xD

[worldly ingot]

afaik, the Android SDK doesn't include all Java modules. CompletableFuture may not be included. That, or Tasks were added before CompletableFuture existed

[tardy delta]

cant really

lol

[noble lantern]

CompletableFuture confirmed does not exist on about 6% of android devices

[tardy delta]

i could add the player to a collection but mehhhr

[worldly ingot]

Which in and of itself is a problem lol

[noble lantern]

I dropped support for that % just to get CompletableFuture

[ivory sleet]

They probably made it in a reactive way due to that java threads are a bit expensive yk, so a reactive asynchronous style does make a bit of sense

[noble lantern]

Its just unhelpful for me because i want this stuff sync

[tardy delta]

atleast a bit

[worldly ingot]

Added in Android 7.0

[noble lantern]

they dont offer sync options

[ivory sleet]

Await

That’s sync/blocking

[noble lantern]

choco actually showed me something badass

[noble lantern]

no more thread sleep

[tardy delta]

still looks pain

[ivory sleet]

the await method which suspends thread activity until the computation is completed (eventually exceptionally)

[noble lantern]

its all in sync now

I have no use for any async actions google provides, because this method entirely its called async

[ivory sleet]

Which is nice

[noble lantern]

Just weird they dont offer a get() like future does with Task

[ivory sleet]

It’s similar

[noble lantern]

yeah just a little more code to work around with

[ivory sleet]

Mye

[worldly ingot]

Well, to be fair, it does have one. It just doesn't wait for a result. It throws an exception if not yet complete

CF has one of those as well iirc

[ivory sleet]

Or well Idk if it’s more, it’s just different from my perspective

[ivory sleet]

Yeah join()

[noble lantern]

Yep thats why i was doing that thread sleep on isComplete haha

[delicate badger]

What do you guys suggest where I could learn to code plugins?

[noble lantern]

well

learn java first

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[noble lantern]

however me personally

try codecademy

its pretty decent

[delicate badger]

Well I know the basics

[noble lantern]

teaches you basics

oh okay

[crude charm]

how basics?

like basics

or basics

[delicate badger]

basics

[crude charm]

hmm

[noble lantern]

HashMap?

Anyways you can learn basically anywhere

[somber sequoia]

how would I remove a single item from a players main hand

[noble lantern]

if you know java you can google "How to do x spigot"

this is 90% of my time developing plugins

[crude charm]

getItemInHand.set current amount -1

[noble lantern]

and then do what works for you

[somber sequoia]

alright thanks

[noble lantern]

tip

NEVER

EVER

i mean EVER

run that piece of code in a Runnable/BukkitTask

it leads to dupe bugs

[somber sequoia]

im guessing you learned that the hard way

[noble lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/namztaes-sad-window-rain-gif-23232396

[opal juniper]

Opinion on the ability to set the brand of the server?

[ivory sleet]

Elaborate :0

[cunning shard]

how would i go about creating a scheduler or thing which sets a player to afk after 5 minutes and then kicks them for being afk after 5 more minutes?

[opal juniper]

well you know on the f3 screen there is the server brand

[ivory sleet]

Oo that’d be really cool

[opal juniper]

Didnt know whether to introduce api to change it

[noble lantern]

nah

[eternal night]

personally really dislike it

[noble lantern]

gonna get 9 year olds saying they made a custom jar

[eternal night]

you are using software people work hard on for free. the least you can do is keep the branding

[noble lantern]

^

[subtle folio]

Is there an easy way to check if a hit in an EntityDamageByEntityEvent is critical?

[ivory sleet]

Mye well if you really wanna change it just doing some packetry shouldn’t be too hard Ig

[opal juniper]

Hmm that is a point, but at the same time

[noble lantern]

prolly is doable with reflection too

[opal juniper]

nopers

[noble lantern]

i assume that strings stored somewhere

[opal juniper]

dont think so

[ivory sleet]

Look into ScheduledExecutorService

[tardy delta]

stackoverflow how to save a list to a database be like

[eternal night]

the string is returned from a method iirc

[opal juniper]

Yep

[ivory sleet]

And also Duration and Instant might be interesting

[eternal night]

but yea, if you wanna change the brand name, at least put in the effort and fork

[noble lantern]

I use those for my log timers haha

[opal juniper]

[cunning shard]

lord have mercy on my soul

[opal juniper]

i dont really think its that big of a deal. Like i dont look at a server and think "wow its a paper server"

[noble lantern]

i do that if its a custom fork

[eternal night]

if it isn't a big deal, then changing it to your thing is also not a big deal and not worth it 🙂

[noble lantern]

Like "oh wow xyz cool"

[crude charm]

Currently struggling to make sonething like this, how should I go about it? https://gyazo.com/0c52a60e3d27e47e3eb3272aecfb3365

[tardy delta]

bruh i really forgot how to insert a whole collection to a db table? are that just multiple statements then?

[opal juniper]

fair enough lol

[noble lantern]

What do you have rn

Do you have any non functional code written

[eternal night]

iirc there are plugins for it as well. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[opal juniper]

which could use api instead of packets

[crude charm]

Nothing really, just multiple drafts

[opal juniper]

but doesnt matter

[crude charm]

It's for something alot deeper then this

[eternal night]

again, I think they should put in at least some effort

[crude charm]

I wanna get the item and store it in a db and give it to the player when they call for it

[eternal night]

I wasn't talking to you xD

[crude charm]

but thats not relevent

[eternal night]

I was talking to olli

[noble lantern]

Basically theres gonna be 2 inventories there

You gonna need to wait to use the inventory type to differntiate

[tardy delta]

ooo

[crude charm]

Ah

[noble lantern]

and btw

players inventroy type sometimes returns as the crafting one