help-development

[sterile token]

Oh you are using Gson to save data

[quaint mantle]

yes

i got the menus working

i am working on items in the menus now

[sterile token]

Oh allright

I would use Yml because it will be easier

[quaint mantle]

and i ran into this since gson cant deserialize itemstacks

[sterile token]

But it should work

[quaint mantle]

and slower

i am using json

[sterile token]

Hmn i dont think so

because with yml you forgot item deserialization

You can just save directly the item object and get it back

[quaint mantle]

i still want to use json since it took me a long time to get it working and i want it to be fast

yml is slow

[sterile token]

allright

So menus items its an array?

[quaint mantle]

menuitems?

[bold flume]

If I wanted to check if the name testingabc under worlds existed in my code how would i do that?
https://paste.md-5.net/ewefinazax.makefile

[sterile token]

You can see it on javadocs MountMario

[quaint mantle]

i just need a way to smash two variables in one parameter in a method

[sterile token]

Javadocs have all methods from a library or java program

[quaint mantle]

fromJson only has two

and i can't modify it

i need two variables in the second parameter somehow

[sterile token]

Two variables?

Explain that

Like having slot and item right?

[quaint mantle]

no, two arraylists

in that one parameter

one called name

one called postition

name is a string

position is an int

[sterile token]

Hmn

[sly trout]

guys how do we check if a player's inventory is full?

[sterile token]

?jd

[vocal cloud]

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot
BungeeCord: https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/api/target/apidocs/index.html
BungeeCord Chat: https://javadoc.io/doc/net.md-5/bungeecord-chat/latest/index.html

[young knoll]

Check if firstEmpty is -1

[sterile token]

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot
BungeeCord: https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/api/target/apidocs/index.html
BungeeCord Chat: https://javadoc.io/doc/net.md-5/bungeecord-chat/latest/index.html

[sly trout]

thank you

not thank you to the other ppl

[wary harness]

any one can tell me how would I run server with logger in ALL mode

I use to do it but forgot

how is that done

[sterile token]

getLogger()?

[vocal cloud]

If you open the docs your answers are in there you don't have to wait for people to answer

[wary harness]

I think it had something with server start bat

[sly trout]

you could've said that 🙂

[sterile token]

Agree

[sterile token]

We told you...

[vocal cloud]

I shouldn't need to say it. Docs haven't gone anywhere

[sly trout]

okay but i asked

if you know answer

[quaint mantle]

help

[sly trout]

if not then its fine

[hexed hatch]

What are you trying to do

[quaint mantle]

docs are useless if you dont know how to navigate them

[hexed hatch]

Two variables in one parameter?

What do you mean

[sterile token]

Yeah i dont udnerstand that part

[quaint mantle]

FullArrayHandler[] m = gson.fromJson(reader, variableone + variabletwo);

[hexed hatch]

What even is variableone and variabletwo

Like what are they

[vocal cloud]

Most of the answers you get here are just straight from the docs which you also have access to. It's equivalent to asking someone what the definition of a word is so they read the dictionary to you.

[sterile token]

In my menu api, i use a custom object called (MenuButton) which contains the ItemStack and he Consumer<ClickEvent>. That button it saved over Map<Slot, Button>

[quaint mantle]

variable one is a string called name

variable two is an int called position

[sly trout]

whatever dude

[hexed hatch]

I would construct this string outside of the function call if I were you

For my own sanity

Might be a bit easier

[sterile token]

What about this giz?

Using an object for the items?

Wouldnt be easier?

[hexed hatch]

Easier than what alternative?

[sterile token]

Instead of saving item stack, name and slot all separated, do an object for that

[sterile token]

This is one of reasons why spigot plugin development its not simple

[past vapor]

Is there any way to make ping update faster? I've seen someone do it before but I'm not sure on how

[young knoll]

You’d probably have to calculate it yourself

By sending the packets

[storm crescent]

Would it be possible to overwrite the Bukkit.getPlayer() method? (Make other plugins run a custom method when they call Bukkit.getPlayer())

[young knoll]

Asm

Probably

Or bytebuddy or whatever

[ivory sleet]

Bukkit::setServer would be an option

[sterile token]

Amazing errors thrown the bukkit api

I lvoe because they are really understable

Haha

?

[ivory sleet]

Isn’t there like setVisible also?

To my knowledge

Oh Idk then sorry

[zealous osprey]

How would I add a tabcomplete to a Command instance ?

[sterile token]

Hmn i love Java!!

[ivory sleet]

Oh lol

[sterile token]

Im getting StackOverflow

Read that its a memory problem

[ivory sleet]

Override the tabComplete method

[zealous osprey]

oh ?

[ivory sleet]

Ye

[zealous osprey]

lemme check

[zealous osprey]

I assume you mean this ?

[ivory sleet]

Assuming you don’t got yourself a PluginCommand which would allow you to set a strategy for tab completing

Well

That’s better

[zealous osprey]

Yea, I dont have a PluginCommand, I just have Command

[ivory sleet]

But it requires you to use ::setTabCompleter which is a method of PluginCommand

[sterile token]

I never used before PluginCommand

I only use it on my command api for registering commands

Then for nothing else

[ivory sleet]

Cool

[sterile token]

Because my command api uses PluginCommand and CommandMap for registering commands

I hate having thousands of line on pl.yml

[zealous osprey]

Thats what Im trying to make, a simple api for easy making and registering of commands with some additional features, like required arguements and stuff

[young knoll]

Just use an existing one

There’s a bunch of em

[ivory sleet]

^

Or well take a look at one of the existing ones

Preferably one of the more pervasive ones

[zealous osprey]

Will do, that seems like a good idea

[ivory sleet]

Good luck

[zealous osprey]

👍

[ivory sleet]

You’ll soon find out people handle commands similarly but not similarly if that makes sense

[sterile token]

thanks

[young knoll]

I’m using ACF right now

The Lang system is kinda annoying

[ivory sleet]

Lang systems are generally painful 🥲

[young knoll]

I just want to have every message run through my translate system

Why is that so complicated

[sterile token]

Overflowstack could be thrown because im trying to connect a fake player to server on main thread?

[ivory sleet]

Probably not

[sterile token]

Oh hmn

So i dont find the cause

[ivory sleet]

Just some method calling itself finitely

[sterile token]

I will still looking what happening

[ivory sleet]

Which overflows the stack

[sterile token]

Oh

Thread.sleep()

Prob

I think that the problems

[ivory sleet]

Some recursive function of yours if I’d gues

[sterile token]

I think the thread.sleep() its causing all the problems

[ivory sleet]

Lol you close the socket?

[sterile token]

No?

[brave sparrow]

Thread#sleep won’t cause a stack overflow

[sterile token]

Allright

so i will still looking what happenins

Im confuse

[young knoll]

What if I recursively call thread.sleep

[sterile token]

Im calling the method fron onEnable

I dont think onEnable method its called recursively

[brave sparrow]

😠

[ivory sleet]

As said you call close on the socket

[brave sparrow]

@sterile token are you calling thread#sleep from a spigot thread?

[ivory sleet]

Unless I happen to be blind

[sterile token]

Im calling the method FakePlayer#connect() from onEnable method

[young knoll]

Sleeping the server thread

Ohno

[ivory sleet]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/net/Socket.html#close() btw verano

[sterile token]

I have to sleep it if not the fake player fet disconnected

I used to work without thread.sleep() but them fake player get taken out from server

[young knoll]

But that’ll just

Freeze the server

[sterile token]

That why

So the fake player dont get disconnected

[brave sparrow]

^^^

[sterile token]

But if i dont freeze the player get disconnected

[young knoll]

Why are you connecting a fake player anyway

[ivory sleet]

Well do you have to connect and do all that login stuff on the server thread?

[sterile token]

PMC (Plugin Message channel)

[ivory sleet]

Like you could just use another thread in principle

[young knoll]

That’s

[sterile token]

Oh i will try doing that

[young knoll]

One janky way to share data

[sterile token]

yeah

And it required a player

So im connecting a fake one

:hummy:

[ivory sleet]

Creative workaround

Still somewhat ridiculous

[young knoll]

But you have to tell the fake player to connect

[ivory sleet]

Or well vulgar in some sense

[sterile token]

Im not connecting it?

Im sending handshake and login packet

My issue is that it get disconnected from the bukkit server

idk why

Anyway i have taken out the socket#close and thread.sleep and getting the error

I will have to make an exausted checked

[ivory sleet]

Myeah try catch throwable maybe

Also don’t use sneaky throws

It’s kinda big ew, especially what it allows you as the coder to bypass

[sterile token]

I will try catching IOException

And i will try FixedThreadPoolExecutor

[ivory sleet]

Ok lol

[sterile token]

Why lol?

[ivory sleet]

I mean if you’re trying to fiddling something into a mediocre working state just start a Thread object and then try catch throwable and print the stack trace perhaps?

Don’t need to make anything fancy before it even works

[sterile token]

Lol

Fuck

Im still having the error

idk what happening

Mnns

I think the problem is not caused there

I think find the problem

[wet breach]

what are you doing o.O

[sterile token]

Fake player connection to use plugin message channel

[wet breach]

that is so pointless lol

[young knoll]

I mean

It’s creative

[sterile token]

Redis its to much for just sending simple cross-server message

I dont wanna send nothing else

[wet breach]

why does everyone want to send messages on a server with no players o.O

[sterile token]

it doesnt make sense using a player for receive the message

Why dont use each server as receiver?

That my biggest question

[wet breach]

what I mean is a server with no players shouldn't be doing anything

[wet breach]

because the plugin message channel stuff is part of MC protocol

I am sure more could be added on in terms of bungee and spigot communicating, but you are free to modify both of those things as well as make PR's

as for making a fake player that is legit there is easier ways to do it

[sterile token]

really?

But the ways i tried no one add it as a real connection

[wet breach]

for the purpose of plugin message channel it is pointless though since I mean servers with no players shouldn't be doing things

[zealous osprey]

Tabcompleters for generic Command

[wet breach]

basically if you want a real connection you will have to minimally have the client stuff on the bungee server

since the connection needs to start at bungee

[quaint mantle]

what library is that

it looks sexy

but i could do better

[sterile token]

Its my own

[sterile token]

And im trying to conenct it from bungee plugin

[wet breach]

there are better uses of having a fake player like you are creating though

other then plugin messaging stuff

like making a video camera

[young knoll]

Like inflating online count

Oh

[wet breach]

easier to record videos of your server using fake players with a minimal client 😛

[sterile token]

its possible?

[wet breach]

inflating online count is just a matter of modifying the number lol

[sterile token]

my goal its find an simple solution for sending simple cross-server messages without extra things

How does Luckperms

It doesnt use anything

And it send cross server message

[wet breach]

the easiest way is to initiate your own socket connection

you are not going to get anymore efficient then that

unless you use unix sockets I suppose

[sterile token]

Doesnt socket require extra setup?

[young knoll]

Carrier pigeon

[wet breach]

you only need like 10 lines of code total or so maybe slight more to create a socket or to connect to a socket

[young knoll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/480406097761402900/945060094830313502/IMG_0697.png

[wet breach]

not overly difficult

[young knoll]

Poor birb

[past vapor]

So there is a method for getting ping Player#getPing() but what about modifying that field?

[young knoll]

Why do you want to modify it

[sterile token]

But if you connect one socket to other socket, i cannot send message to every server or yes?

[past vapor]

I have a more accurate method of calculating it

[young knoll]

Expose it in your own API then

I mean I guess you could reflect it, but why bother

[past vapor]

But I want it to interact with multiple already existing plugins

[wet breach]

you can handle multiple connections on a single port o.O

[past vapor]

e.g tab

[sterile token]

but that a ServerSocket

[wet breach]

who cares?

[young knoll]

I mean go ahead and reflect it then

[sterile token]

Wait its possible to connect a socket from a hosting to socket server on linux vps?

[grizzled briar]

when I try to restart my server with the plugin UltimateAutoRestart it says "could not force restart because your interval argument is faulty" what does this mean?

[sterile token]

#help-server

[wet breach]

not sure why you couldn't connect between two systems

I mean software does this all the time

[sterile token]

two system?

Using sockets and message channel?

that what you mean?

[wet breach]

well your question wasn't quite clear in what you were asking

anyways not sure why you keep insisting on message channels

[sterile token]

Because they dont need extra setup

And every server has it

[wet breach]

there is no extra setup with sockets either

other then putting the plugin on the server

if you can't do that then you really shouldn't be running servers

[sterile token]

dont you require a specific port for each socket?

That the problem if you dont use a vps you cannot achive it

[wet breach]

you don't need multiple sockets for multiple connections

[wet breach]

not sure what you mean by this

this is obviously wrong

[sterile token]

Why?

Hosting doesnt allow opening sockets

[wet breach]

because sockets are not dependent on having a vps or not

[sterile token]

That what i was making refence

[sterile token]

...

[wet breach]

you can use unix sockets then

or make use of the loopback interface

[sterile token]

Oh i never listened before

I will give a try thanks

And sorry for lsoting your time

[wet breach]

not wasting my time

if it was a waste of my time I would have left by now 😛

[sterile token]

I said it because people said that im really hard

😂

[wet breach]

sure but most of your problem is the language barrier

in trying to convey what you are asking

[sterile token]

Yeah that i agree

So unix sockets was called?

I will save it

[wet breach]

Java 17 introduced unix sockets natively 🙂

before java 17 you will have to find a library or make your own in software unix socket implementation

[sterile token]

Oh i would use java 17 to compile, but them i cannot use it for plugins

Because you cant run java 17 plugins on old versions

[wet breach]

your other alternative is making use of the loopback device which is known as localhost or more precisely 127.0.0.1

opening sockets on the loopback device shouldn't trigger anything for the firewall

[sterile token]

And how you connect thems?

[wet breach]

mainly because loopback device doesn't talk to the outside world 😛

instead of just making a socket on all devices, specifically tell java the device/ip you want to create the socket on

[sterile token]

I know but if you are using a hosting you cannot open ports, they already assign one

[wet breach]

loopback device is an exception

[sterile token]

Oh i will read about it

[wet breach]

as I said it is a device that can't make outside connections

therefore, you should be able to create sockets on it

[past vapor]

I don't know what this means

[young knoll]

Google java reflection

[sterile token]

frost i dont still understand what its loopback device

I search "loopback device java examples"

And looks like java sockets

[wet breach]

in code you would do nothing different

the difference however is you will instead specify the device or ip to create the socket on

which is going to be localhost or 127.0.0.1

while the host you are on prevents creating sockets, they usually only do so for the device that communicates to the outside world or the public IP

which is not what you are going to be using anyways

the loopback device can not communicate to the outside world

therefore it makes no sense to attempt blocking creating sockets on it

[paper zealot]

?js

?java

okay

[wet breach]

?java

[sterile token]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[paper zealot]

thamk

[wet breach]

the loopback device however can still be used to communicate to your servers that are on the same system.

[sterile token]

Ah allright so if have 3 servers running on a hosting. I will use as address for socket 127.0.0.1 and then the port they assigned

right?

[wet breach]

you can use whatever port you want as long as it isn't in use. Generally want to stay above port 1024 because that port and those below it require elevated permissions to use

which you most likely won't have

[sterile token]

yes i read that < 1024 are reserved for the system

[past vapor]

Realised i've used it before but im not sure what method im even looking for

[potent marten]

How to make spigot server item translate to player local language?

[sterile token]

HMN

I love intellij

Sometime i wanna throw him outside my windows

[wet breach]

this isn't an automatic thing. Assets in the game will use whatever language the client uses, but for custom stuff you would need to have your own translations

[past vapor]

22.02 00:50:22 [Server] WARN java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: ping

[wet breach]

then its a matter of grabbing the client locale which you should be able to do from the player object and display the translation to that player

[sterile token]

auto doxxed

you send an ip address

[past vapor]

Line right above that is my ip 😟

[sterile token]

Ah no it not an ip address

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#getLocale()

[young knoll]

Ping is probably the mapped name

You need the obfuscated name

[sterile token]

isnt deobfuscated using -remap on buildtools?

[potent marten]

Ya I already change spigot en_us.json language but it just work for few thing not work for cmi placeholder display item name

[wet breach]

well for placeholders it is dependent on the plugin or if you are creating them then the limitation is going to be it most likely doesn't support per player translations

[potent marten]

Ok so you mean I already translate it but plugin placeholder are not use spigot translate?

[wet breach]

spigot doesn't translate anything

you can set the language of the server which only applies to what is in the game already

also, the client language will translate on the client, again for stuff already in the game

but for stuff added by plugins, it is on the plugin authors to setup translations and most do however what most don't do is per-player translations

[woeful crescent]

anyone know if breaking a block is under PlayerInteractEvent useInteractedBlock or useItemInHand?

[wet breach]

it is an all or nothing setting in regards to language for most plugins

[woeful crescent]

which is iat

*it

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/block/BlockBreakEvent.html

[sterile token]

It work but it disconnect the player 😠

[woeful crescent]

it also falls under PIE

[woeful crescent]

which thing is it

[wet breach]

yes because playerinteractevent is basically a catch all

[potent marten]

I mean like this I want translate "Wooden Pickaxe"

[woeful crescent]

yea, but under the event does it count as using your held item or using the interacted block?

[wet breach]

it could be both

multiple events for the same thing can be fired

use which ever one you need for whatever you are trying to do

[woeful crescent]

??????

i mean like

[young knoll]

?tas

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee

[woeful crescent]

no

im asking bc i dont want to

and if someone's willing to answer they can answer

if you don't want to answer just dont

[wet breach]

Well I already stated both those events can fire

[woeful crescent]

both of which?

[wet breach]

the events you listed and are asking about

they all can fire for the same thing

[woeful crescent]

nah, im asking about the methods under PlayerInteractEvent

not separate events

[sterile token]

Wha tdo you think?

[wet breach]

then use which ever method you want or need

[woeful crescent]

im asking which methods do what

[past vapor]

Apparantly there are 0 fields in the Player class 🤔

[woeful crescent]

like does the useItemInHand method used for breaking blocks or is it the other one

[young knoll]

Player is an interface

CraftPlayer is the implementation

[past vapor]

aa

[wet breach]

useInteractedBlock takes whatever action with the clicked block and useIteminhand will apply durability stuff for whatever item is in hand when you were interacting with the block

[woeful crescent]

ahhhhh

kk

thx

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEvent.html

should read the javadocs

?jd

[undone axle]

Spigot: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot
BungeeCord: https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/api/target/apidocs/index.html
BungeeCord Chat: https://javadoc.io/doc/net.md-5/bungeecord-chat/latest/index.html

[woeful crescent]

not much in the docs

for that

[wet breach]

what I told you was from the docs, except for the itemin hand one, which is ambiguous only because it depends what item is in the hand at the time

if its a tool or item that can take durability damage it will apply that

[woeful crescent]

?

i just didn't see it huh

ok

[sterile token]

Finally it working

[past vapor]

22.02 01:07:39 [Server] WARN java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.bukkit.craftbukkit.entity.CraftPlayer sad days

[young knoll]

Doesn’t craftbukkit still have the version in the package name

[past vapor]

dont think so but i'll give it a go

[sterile token]

you are not ussing Spigot-jar

You are using spigot-api that the problem

[past vapor]

I got it

I think

[sterile token]

Spigot jar its the one you get from building it with build-tools

[past vapor]

ffs

[wet breach]

nice

[sterile token]

but my problem its that the player get disconnected

[wet breach]

?bootstrap

[undone axle]

Bootstrap Jar
The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or the entire contents of the bundler directory from your server, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.

Please read the release notes for further information: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/9-years-of-spigotmc-spigot-bungeecord-1-18-1-18-1-release.534760/#post-4305163

[wet breach]

well, the way I was telling you was you didn't need a player, you could just directly communicate with your servers via a plugin. Player connection isn't going to truly work because the loopback device can't communicate with the outside world, which means can't connect to mojang auth servers.

this isn't really an issue as you could just simply allow your player to connect regardless of auth

[sterile token]

No but i have worked with the fake player

And it still connected for 2500ms then it get auto disconnected

[wet breach]

most likely as I stated because of the auth stuff lol

[sterile token]

auth stuff?

Isnt just require handshake and login packet?

[wet breach]

well fake players need to be legit, unless you tell the server to let it connect regardless

[wet breach]

yes but mojang auth servers are involved

[sterile token]

oh i didnt know that part

[wet breach]

which the client needs to communicate with so that a session can be created

[sterile token]

I didnt know

But the client involve the mojan session?

or the launcher itself does it

[wet breach]

normally the launcher does it, but you can do it at the connection level. In either case however you would still need to communicate with the mojang auth servers

which can not be done from the loopback device

[sterile token]

Oh ok

[wet breach]

so, a way around it is you could instead allow your player to connect without fully authenticating so as long as it comes from 127.0.0.1. but I would put some kind of protection in place so you know for a fact it is your software player and not some other thing lol.

[sterile token]

ah ok

Thanks

You are one of that always help i really apreciated

[wet breach]

you would need a plugin on the bungee server to allow that to happen

[past vapor]

22.02 01:22:19 [Server] WARN java.lang.NoSuchFieldException: ping 😢

[wet breach]

because you need to tell the server yeah let the connection happen lol

[wet breach]

read above about the server jar

go to that post read it, there will be another link in said post in regards to NMS

and with that post combined, you should be able to resolve your problem

[valid solstice]

What event to use if i want to check if a player has a certain armor piece on?

[wet breach]

not sure why you would need an event for this

[valid solstice]

i would want to give the player potion effects if they have a certain armor piece on

Because with InventoryCloseEvent, you can bypass the check by right clicking the armor

[storm crescent]

Is it possible to overwrite a bukkit method without making a subclass, if so how?

[young knoll]

Bytebuddy

[storm crescent]

Alright, thanks

[wet breach]

not sure how you would close the inventory and then also right click the armor?

[valid solstice]

no because there are two ways to check if a player wears an armor

they can either put it on in their inv

or right click the armor, and put in on

and it seems to bypass the Invcloseeevent

is there a specific event that checks for both?

[wet breach]

just check on inventoryclick then?

[valid solstice]

isnt there a specific event that checks for armor everytime? i feel like it isnt efficient

[wet breach]

no?

[valid solstice]

the "armor put on" can also be bypassed if a dispenser gives the armor

how do i fix that

[wet breach]

dispenser has an event for whenever it dispenses

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/block/BlockDispenseArmorEvent.html

[valid solstice]

how about /replaceitem?

[wet breach]

that is a command, so you should be able to handle that easily

[young knoll]

There’s a library that adds an armor equip event

[valid solstice]

so i need to think of every possible way that a player can put on armor?

[wet breach]

sounds like they should pr it to spigot 😛

[wet breach]

yeah that is part of programming

preventing interference

[valid solstice]

ah, thanks. I just hope that there is an event for that

[wet breach]

sometimes there is, other times there isn't

and as Coll said above

you can also use libraries that add events

[young knoll]

It’s been a PR for a while

[wet breach]

oh I guess we wait then lol

[valid solstice]

i hope it gets implemented

so i can use 1 event handler for armor instead of making a whole bunch

which i think maybe is inefficient

[wet breach]

it isn't that it is inefficient, just cumbersome to create all the code for the checks

[valid solstice]

yes, this is what i mean

exactly!

anyways thank you

[wet breach]

however you should become accustomed to such things though because ideally you should be preventing your plugin from working in unintended ways anyways or be used to introduce dupes 😛

[cobalt tinsel]

Hi so I need to count player hits, should I do it with EntityDamageByEntityEvent? If so, how could I count them?

[wet breach]

player hits of any kind?

or player hits in regards to specific combat?

[drowsy helm]

player on player hits, entity hitting players? wdym

[cobalt tinsel]

Specific conbat

Combat*

lmao

Yea (player) e.getEntity()

[cobalt tinsel]

player on player

[wet breach]

Then the event you listed will work, just check if they are players and just make a method that counts the hits to each of them

you are going to have to create some kind of grace period where it is determined they are no longer in combat or whatever else

[cobalt tinsel]

yeah like int hits;

[wet breach]

well going to need a list or hashmap

[drowsy helm]

use a map

[cobalt tinsel]

Oh

Right

And then set hits to 0 after the Match ends

[wet breach]

but you are going to have to determine for yourself when combat is dictated as being over

so you know when to clear out that list/map

[cobalt tinsel]

It's for a duels plugin (1v1)

[wet breach]

even so, the server doesn't have a mechanism in place that keeps track if a player is in combat or not

or when said combat is over

so you will have to create your own rules on that

[cobalt tinsel]

Yeah I have an event for that

MatchEndEvent

[wet breach]

most people use a time limit from the last hit

to determine when combat is over

[sterile token]

AnY HELP?

[wet breach]

or if the other player dies

[sterile token]

Someone tag me

[cobalt tinsel]

?

[cobalt tinsel]

Oh kk thanks

[sterile token]

#help-server for plugins/server issues

[cobalt tinsel]

Wdym?

[sterile token]

here its for plugin development

[wet breach]

they are talking about creating a plugin so this channel is the appropriate place 🙂

[sterile token]

ah sorry

[cobalt tinsel]

I'm developing a plugin🤨

[sterile token]

I got confused btw

[cobalt tinsel]

Np

[wet breach]

and now confusion is gone hopefully

[sterile token]

?

[carmine urchin]

When making like an onjoin event where you need to give player certain items and also prevent those items from being dropped, should you create a separate class for every event? Like a class for onjoin, ondrop, and also a class that handles the items? or should you just stuff it all together

[sterile token]

Depend

On the context

for example i done a core

That contains multiple things

And i have one listener for data loading/unloading (onJoin, onQuit and onKick), the for managing the items i have another class called ItemListener

[carmine urchin]

Ahh

[sterile token]

Do ihave explained

[carmine urchin]

Ty yes that makes sense

[sterile token]

Allright no problem

have a lovely day/night

[carmine urchin]

u too!

[cobalt tinsel]

I usually make a PlayerListener and put everything on there but You can do it the way you prefee

[carmine urchin]

Ok thanks

[cobalt tinsel]

yw

[sterile token]

Who needing help?

I see another tag

[hybrid spoke]

hello sir i need help, i wanna understand why Player is not an enum please

[tranquil viper]

I am a little curious about hypixel skyblocks pets... anyone have any guides/links that can teach me about them (or floating heads in general?)

SS:

[hybrid spoke]

what exactly is the question? it's an armorstand following the player prob. sent via packets to each client in near

[tranquil viper]

ah it's an armor stand

I was just trying to think in my head what it could even be I don't know why I didn't think about that

xD

thank you, gonna go do some research >:)

[hybrid spoke]

np, hf

[green spire]

hey just wondering if i were to make an economy plugin but i want it to work across servers is there anything i have to do for it to work on servers in a bungee setup or do i just connect it to a mongodb and that should be good?

[lost matrix]

For private use or for a public plugin?

[tranquil viper]

If implemented properly mongodb should be good

for private ^

[green spire]

private use atm, possibly public but right now its only for my server network

[tranquil viper]

If you wanted it to work across servers just store the uuid and the balance of the player

boom

[lost matrix]

Do you need vault or can you also use a custom implementation. Meaning -> do you use public plugins that depend on vault.

[green spire]

thats what i had a feeling of but i just wanted to confirm i wouldnt need to do anything special

[green spire]

i plan on adding vault support

and using plugins that depend on vault

[lost matrix]

You need to do some special stuff if you dont want your servers performance to tank

[green spire]

oh alright like?

[lost matrix]

Let me look into the src of vault to see if they have any async support by now.

[young knoll]

Vault doesn’t support async balance retrieval does it

Last I checked anyway

[lost matrix]

This is probably what you should do: Use a cache like Redis or Hazelcast between your network and the DB.
There are 2 approaches.

1. Have only the cache hold the data. Every data received should be considered stale instantly. You should use redis locks to make sure your data is eventually consistent.
2. Every server has its own cache and you use Redis Topics to notify when a value needs to be changed. This could yield an even better performance but is also
   infinitely more complex.

[vague oracle]

Is there a way to get an entity from its int ID?

[green spire]

so i want it connected to redis instead of directly to the db?

i think i can do that

[lost matrix]

Yes. And you only request data from redis. And when redis doesnt have the data then it will load it from the DB and hold it for N minutes.

[green spire]

alright ill play around with that and see if i can figure that out, thanks for the tip 👍

[lost matrix]

Why do you need this? There is no API way for doing that.

[vague oracle]

I'm listening to outgoing packets for entity equipment to hide equipment it if they crouch, but I need to get the player object from the id (could also be a mob)

[lost matrix]

Hm i can only think of expensive ways at the moment

[vague oracle]

I found a protocol lib utility for it

[lost matrix]

Ah nice

[vague oracle]

But I can't tell if its more expensive than just looping though all mobs in world

[lost matrix]

Make sure it uses mapping internally and not loop over every entitiy XD

[vague oracle]

Another way is to maybe just put all crouched players in a map

[lost matrix]

Is it only for players?

[vague oracle]

ye but if the packet could also be a mob

[young knoll]

Isn’t there an easy way to get the entity from its id

[lost matrix]

Player starts crouching -> Add his id to a Set<Integer>
Player stops crouching -> Remove him from the set

[young knoll]

I thought there was

[hybrid spoke]

well

you would have to loop

otherwise you wont get every entity

[young knoll]

I thought it was just a map lookup

[tranquil viper]

Anyone have a good tutorial on StringLists in yaml files?

tried: plugin.enabledpvp.getStringList("enabled-pvp").add(player.getUniqueId().toString()); but it doesn't seem to want to add it to the string list

[lost matrix]

Not much content for a tutorial...

[tranquil viper]

maybe you can help me solve my problem then xD

[desert loom]

getStringList returns a copy.

[lost matrix]

This does add it to the string list. You just do nothing with that list afterwards

[tranquil viper]

I saved it

When I try to access it later or manually look at the file it's not there

[lost matrix]

Dont use configs during runtime.
Load all your data when the server starts. From then on you use properly named variables and data structures/classes.
Then save everything when the server stops. You can also regularly save everything every few minutes if you like.

[desert loom]

you need to get the string list, modify it, and then set it back into the configuration using the set method or do what 7smile7 said.

[waxen plinth]

Does it return the list or a copy?

Do you need to do set afterwards?

[desert loom]

it returns a copy

[waxen plinth]

Okay then you would need to call set

But you should really just use pdc for this

Much easier

[lost matrix]

Actually just adding a Scoreboard tag would be super simple here.

  public boolean hasPvPEnabled(Player player) {
    return player.getScoreboardTags().contains("_pvp_");
  }

  public void enablePvP(Player player) {
    player.getScoreboardTags().add("_pvp_");
  }

  public void disablePvP(Player player) {
    player.getScoreboardTags().remove("_pvp_");
  }

  public void togglePvP(Player player) {
    if (this.hasPvPEnabled(player)) {
      this.disablePvP(player);
    } else {
      this.enablePvP(player);
    }
  }

XDD just came up with this idea

  public void togglePvP(Player player) {
    ((this.hasPvPEnabled(player) ? (Consumer<Player>) this::disablePvP : (Consumer<Player>) this::enablePvP)).accept(player);
  }

[olive lance]

can someone send a basic maven config with just spigot as dependency

[lost matrix]

If you use intellij then i got a treat for your

[olive lance]

i do

[lost matrix]

https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/8327-minecraft-development
Install this

[desert loom]

could even remove the hasPvPEnabled check in togglePvP and just check the return value of enablePvP.

[lost matrix]

With this you can create a clean maven or gradle project for all the minecraft platforms

[olive lance]

does it require maven to generate the maven project

i need to install that too prob

[lost matrix]

Intellij has maven bundled but you should def install maven.
You just need to download the maven folder and then add the maven/bin directory to your PATH

[olive lance]

i am literally so clueless about maven

can the plugin generate maven project for an exiting project?

[lost matrix]

No. And you should not try to mavenfy an existing project.
Create a clean maven project and simply copy paste the src folder. IJ can handle that.

[olive lance]

why not try ? if i can ask

it only depends on spigot if that matters

[lost matrix]

It will lead to inconsistencies because there is more to a clean maven project than just the pom.xml

[olive lance]

Also you say IJ has maven bundled, so can I create a maven project with that? or do i need to install it

happy tuesday

[lost matrix]

You dont need to install it but you should. *Its been tuesday for 6 hours for me already XD

[olive lance]

Lol

Whats an achetype

archetype

[young knoll]

Yugioh?

[olive lance]

maven project

[lost matrix]

Basically a template

[olive lance]

Ok i think i got it

made a new maven project

So does the pom.xml get automatically generated?

[lost matrix]

Yes

[olive lance]

its generated an src/main/java directory should i just overwrite the main/java with whatever my src folder has?

[lost matrix]

Click on your old src folder in IJ. Press ctrl + C. Click on your new src folder. Press ctrl + V.

[olive lance]

ok. should i move my config.yml to resources or does that matter?

[lost matrix]

Yes everything that is not part of your source code is now put in the resources folder. Like you plugin.yml and other files like configs.

[olive lance]

so its ok that the java folder is empty?

And how do you trigger the pom.xml to update the dependencies?

[olive lance]

ah ok i see

[olive lance]

Wheres that maven window

[lost matrix]

Top right corner for me

[olive lance]

goit it

view>tool windows>maven

hm

clicked that and my pom.xml is still missing spigot api

[lost matrix]

Did you generate a maven project or a minecraft project?

[olive lance]

maven project

guess it was supposed to be minecraft lol

im gonna go though getting late. ill do this later in the week

[storm crescent]

How do you update a player's uuid in the playerList? (for Bukkit.getPlayer())

[young knoll]

Probably reflection

[lost matrix]

Probably by using a ton of nms and/or reflections.
The players UUID is deeply rooted in a ton of internal mappings.

Better disconnect him and change the UUID early in the handshake.

[storm crescent]

I tried setting the entity uuid and gameprofile but they dont seem to change the Bukkit.getPlayer() method

[lost matrix]

Where do you try to do that?

[storm crescent]

in an on join event

[lost matrix]

Thats WAY to late. You need to take a look at the protocol and see what handshake packets are being sent and when the UUID is evaluated.

[storm crescent]

I see so would I just listen to the handshake packets and change the uuid there?

[lost matrix]

Probably somewhere there

[storm crescent]

Alright thanks

[wet breach]

Login Success

is where the UUID gets set

but if you are trying to change the UUID you might break the session though

[vagrant steppe]

I would do PreLoginEvent

since there’s nothing else that logs in besides a player really xd

[wet breach]

you could put this under a PlayerEvents class

So (plugin namePlayerEvents)

Classes generally are capitialized

I wouldn't do per-event per class

I mean you can if you want

just you are going to have a lot of classes that contain probably just 5 or 10 lines of code and that is it

and you are going to have to register all those classes too

[desert loom]

might be better to name it PlayerListeners

[wet breach]

I didn't say it wasn't easy

Well there is a balance

I think 3-4 events in a class is fine

as long as they are related to each other in some fashion

like player events spanned across 3-4 classes would be perfectly fine

everyone has their preference. There really is no right way of doing something as long as it compiles and runs 😛

I don't like having super long classes myself

but I also don't like needlessly creating classes either that doesn't contain much lol

Anyways do what you think is right. Most projects it really doesn't matter unless you intend to have a bunch of people contribute to it

[desert loom]

yea that's a fine way of doing it.

[humble heath]

.

[wet breach]

?DI

!DI

?DependencyInjection

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[golden kelp]

Which event should I use if I want to cancel the event when player tries to fix a item In a anvil

[desert loom]

the code you posted earlier is in package private.

the constructor has to be public not the variable.

the variable can be whatever visibility you want it to but it's likely better to keep it private.

encapsulation is nice

if you change that to private you couldn't instantiate it outside of that class.

[ivory sleet]

Encapsulation doesn’t mean declare everything private

[golden kelp]

what event is fired when a player tries to fix/enchant something in an anvil

[ivory sleet]

It means that instance variables are only directly changed within the class itself, any dependency that interacts with the instance outside must use its methods it exposes by the type

[desert loom]

I meant the main field. It's up to you if you want to keep it private or not, I was just saying it might be better since I doubt you want anyone having access to that field.

the public Main pl; field

[ivory sleet]

^

Yeah to some extent if you use the preprocess event

but else not really unless you do some really intricate stuff which you probably shouldn’t do anyway

[desert loom]

that won't work to block /plugins and /pl that well.

since you can type /bukkit:plugins or even /plugins <any string beyond here> to bypass what you put.

[wet breach]

could just use permissions

bukkit.commands.plugins

sure

stops them from using the command lol

there is other commands you can block too from the server, they all have permissions

most of which are just under bukkit.commands node

most people don't realize there is permissions attached to the commands bukkit/spigot provides even the vanilla ones too

hence you get all these plugins trying to block commands that already are blockable with just a permission plugin 😂

you can, depends what it needs to do

but in general you should make your plugin handle server reloads as well

not just a reload command for your plugin 😉

the reason people say not to do this

is because most devs don't code their plugin to handle it like they are supposed to

the more people that learn to handle such things, the better 🙂

server reload nulls out objects

like player stuff etc

so you need to recreate your objects or check to ensure they are not null

and basically have a way to correct a null object

most plugins listen for onplayerjoin to add them to a list

but on a server reload you won't have player join event

because the players are already connected 😛

[valid solstice]

Hi,
What is the best way to implement a shared damage system? Something like if Player1 gets damaged, 50% of that damage would be negated and transfered to Player2

[mental zodiac]

@EventHandler
public void damage_event(EntityDamageEvent e) {
Player p = (Player) e.getEntity();
if(p instanceof Player) {
double damagetaken = p.getLastDamage();
String player2name = "Notch";
Player player2 = Bukkit.getPlayer(player2name);
player2.setHealth(p.getHealth() - damagetaken);
}
}

didnt tested it

[wet breach]

I wouldn't. You can end up with too many classes trying to be organized lol

but it is up to you, as long as it is easy to understand and intuitive you are generally fine

anything that might be questionable to someone, add some comments before/during/after the method where it seems feasible to document something

main key is documentation and comments. Those help just as much as having organized classes and intuitive naming schemes

this is how I do my commands

https://github.com/frostalf/ServerTutorial/tree/master/ServerTutorial/src/main/java/pw/hwk/tutorial/commands

just need to handle when the sender is the console and not just check for a player lol

you should only check if the sender is a player if the command being ran is dependent on such things

[desert loom]

I think most permission plugins allow you to prefix a permission with - to negate it

so like -<permission>

[wet breach]

this is the standard in regards to permission plugins

or the adopted one that permission plugins have taken to using

always nice to have something work on the first try

returning false gives them the message automatically that they don't have permission

I generally return true in all the methods for the if's the last outer return false if nothing matched

exactly

hmm wonder if that got changed

or maybe its dependent on the permission plugin being used

I don't use luckperms

I use groupmanager which many here will despise you of using 😛

well I have a customized version of groupmanager

it is open source after all

I use GM because it works and does what I need it to without much fuss

yeah that is really what it comes down to

I just don't have a need for such a feature

some people like that which is understandable

and all the more reason to go use something like luckperms

but, I don't need all the frills 😛

basically GM is what you would think of Debian

and luckperms ubuntu the go to Debian distro

There are people that like Debian vanilla because it doesn't have all the frills that they don't use or care about anyways

where as ubuntu adds quite a lot of useful things out of the box

well, was just an analogy anyways 😛

[valid solstice]

what is the difference of getvalue() and getdefaultvalue()?

whoWasHit.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH).getValue()

whoWasHit.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH).getDefaultValue()

entity damage by entity event

yup

no im not getting the damage

im getting the current health

of who was hit

sorry if it confused you

[wet breach]

the difference is getDefaultValue() is at it says, gets what the default is supposed to be, getValue() gets whatever the value is even if its not the default one since it can be changed.

[valid solstice]

so getdefaultvalue will always be 20 right?

why do more work when i can just get the value directly from getAttribute xD

[wet breach]

it should be unless the default is changed, not sure if defaults can be changed in server config stuff or not. But as far as I am aware it should do that

[valid solstice]

alright thanks

[wet breach]

could do that, but you shouldn't worry what the default is either

default just implies that is what the server is configured for

and you should always respect the default regardless of the number 😛

just have to ensure you don't encounter negative numbers unexpectedly is all

otherwise your players die 🙂

[valid solstice]

Player#getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH).getValue() is the same as Player#getHealth?

[wet breach]

getHealth() should return what the players health currently is

[valid solstice]

wait

wtf

ok im confused

getValue() gets whatever the value is even if its not the default one since it can be changed

[valid solstice]

by changed do you mean damaged?

so isnt that the same as getValue()?

[wet breach]

you can change the max health number

[valid solstice]

oh i see what you mean

[wet breach]

getValue() returns whatever that number is, it can be the default number

or a different number that it was changed to

[valid solstice]

mhm yup, thanks

[sharp flare]

getValue gets the max health the player has if he has bonus hearts, etc, getDefault always returns 20 which is the default vanilla

[zealous osprey]

I have a question which I cant seem to find an answer anywhere for:
I am registering commands via the commandmap, they work, but then trying to get an instance of PluginCommand from them doesnt want to work, I went trough the map, the commands are in there, but just not as PluginCommands, just as regular Command type. Tried to convert it, but that doesnt seem to work either.
Looked into other plugins that do something like this, but most I looked at do it in very different ways to each other and for me not very understandably.
Just for the sake of completion, cause this might be easier, idk, I want to register a tabcomplete to the command, if that helps, this is my final goal anyways.

[blazing rune]

Is it possible to runtasktimer once?

[lost matrix]

PluginCommands are generated if the plugin.yml contains plugin entries. I would just follow the breadcrumbs of the CraftBukkit implementation.

[lost matrix]

Sure. Do you just want to run a task once right away (in the next tick) or wait N ticks.

[blazing rune]

Next tick

[lost matrix]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/scheduler/BukkitScheduler.html#runTask(org.bukkit.plugin.Plugin,java.lang.Runnable)

[wet breach]

these days vault isn't really needed for permissions

query the permissions plugin being used

[tall dragon]

whats even the difference to just using Player#hasPermission?

[wet breach]

luckperms and pex are the common permission plugins in use they have API's

[tall dragon]

ah i see

[wet breach]

they have a wiki

and documentation

https://javadoc.io/doc/net.luckperms/api/latest/index.html

[lost matrix]

Permissions are used to verify immediate action of a Player. Why do you need to check the permission of an offline player?

Elaborate pls

[wet breach]

if it is your voting plugin, why not just keep your own list of players that have been given permission?

[tall dragon]

or you could proccess the vote when they log on

[wet breach]

if every user that has ever joined has been given permission

[lost matrix]

Still not enough information. Its probably better to store the players name and wait for his next login.

[wet breach]

then why would you need to check if they still have permission if they are offline?

[tall dragon]

why would you need to

[wet breach]

you just said this

[tall dragon]

just wait for them to log on

[wet breach]

isn't it pointless to check perms if everyone has perms?

then query their rank

should be fairly easier to do that then to worry about permissions

[lost matrix]

What if someone doesnt use luckperms?

[wet breach]

this is for their own personal needs

[lost matrix]

Ah i see

[wet breach]

if you are using luckperms just use mysql DB option with it

then with your vote plugin, query the DB

for their rank

no need to hook into anything at that point except just use some SQL stuff 😛

[lost matrix]

This sounds like a hacky way if you have the whole LuckPermsAPI at your disposal...

[wet breach]

not really o.O

that is what DB's are for

why would I go through middleware

[lost matrix]

You joking, right?

[wet breach]

no? Not hard to query a DB, acting like as if its some big risky thing o.O

I am not going to use some large API to just query a DB with a simple sql connection

nor would I recommend for someone to do so either

[lost matrix]

It fking is. What if the scheme gets migrated to a new one?
Do you then look into the db and write your quries new instead of doing nothing because the API abstracted that away from you?

[wet breach]

if you are in control of the DB

you know when the scheme changes

you shouldn't be allowing something to change the DB freely without your knowledge

[lost matrix]

Yes. And its better if you dont have to react on changes because you use an abstract API anyways.

[wet breach]

and the API can't stop me from querying the DB no matter how hard it tries

[lost matrix]

Its like measuring the currencies of your calculator instead of using the lcd display...

[wet breach]

If you like to let software change your DB without your knowledge that is on you and poor security practices

anyways you can even setup a function on the DB too

so you don't actually have to query anything

you could just invoke the function instead

[wet breach]

in this case bypassing it would be more efficient

[lost matrix]

I really hope you dont work in the backend...

[wet breach]

just because it is a microservice doesn't mean it is better

I do

[lost matrix]

But it has a clearly defined job. And everything accessing the DB should go through that service for several reasons.

[wet breach]

ok what are the several reasons

other then DB scheme

which isn't really a big concern since no writing is happening

[blazing scarab]

I agree. Database should be an implementation detail

[tall dragon]

its a variable

[wet breach]

its probably at the top

[lost matrix]

Consistency. Metrics. Not breaking SOLID principles. Modularity.
Basically everything that makes out micro service architecture.
If everyone uses this services abstract API then you just have to swap out the implementation
if you want to change something on the data structure. But if 20 other services access this DB
by hand then 20 more services need to be updated.

[tall dragon]

https://luckperms.net/wiki/Developer-API

[wet breach]

I really don't care about someone elses metrics

someone elses metrics is not a valid reason to use someones api

consistency sure, but again we just checking for two things combined, user to get their rank

solid principles? not sure which you infer

Modularity? What modularity? This isn't some large project where we got tons of moving parts

[lost matrix]

I also disagree on that too. Metrics are crucial to find bottlenecks. And i want the API that i use to function at its best.

[tall dragon]

thats pretty likely ye

[wet breach]

ok you can disagree but an opinion is not a fact either

metrics is not a fact of anything in why you should use it

[lost matrix]

You are right. I just stated that i disagree and explained why.

Anyways this is not a fruitful conversation. Lets just move on. 👍

[wet breach]

Basically you are advocating that this large API should be used to query two small data pieces and I would argue bypassing it would be far more efficient in the long run then using said API

I am sure you could probably setup a test to prove that bypassing it would be more efficient even scaling wise

simply because we cut out the middle man

[ivory sleet]

Depends on what your concerns are imho

[lost matrix]

Yes you can cut out all your middlemen if you like that.
But lets just move on.

[wet breach]

a microservice is only as good as the service it provides, if it isn't good enough then you simply don't use it.

in this case it is just too much

in my opinion and I wouldn't use it

[ivory sleet]

If it’s about speed then maybe, but in the long run having layers (such as an api) which separates concerns makes it simpler and more robust against changes

[lost matrix]

That is factually not true. You provide a better implementation. I mean... come on.

[wet breach]

or just don't use it

[lost matrix]

I dont care anymore

[wet breach]

of course you don't but I don't tell businesses to buy something they don't need either. Not that luckperms costs anything. but still same principle

[ivory sleet]

An api allows for the actual concretion to scale and change whilst still supporting consumers

[lost matrix]

pls just stop your rant and lets move on

[ivory sleet]

Very nice

[cold field]

Hi guys, I'm trying to use a scoreboard to save player data for a minigame but I've some questions. First of all is it a good practice?

[ivory sleet]

Cant understand how you don’t want robustness in design

[lost matrix]

Using a scoreboard to store data is not a good practice. It should only be used to display data.

Its an observer of data

[cold field]

So, if I use it to count player kills is ok, right?

[lost matrix]

Nope.

Its ok if you use it to display player kills.

[cold field]

Hum, ok. Can I ask why it's not recommended to use it?

Slow?

[lost matrix]

Not as slow that it would matter. Do you want the data to persist over server restarts?

[cold field]

Nope

[blazing scarab]

It is harder to manage and wiping data, comparing to relational database

Use pdc ftw

[cold field]

Uh, you are right XD

[lost matrix]

You should use a centralised way of storing your data. Maybe a PlayerKillManager singleton that
hosts a Map<UUID, Integer>. Or if you want to store statistics then a PlayerStatsManager.

[cold field]

OK , what if that manager uses PDC?

[lost matrix]

This way sorting and doing a top list is possible. PDC doesnt provide that luxus.

[cold field]

Like a facade to easily access stats

OK ty all of you guys

[lost matrix]

Also valid. But then you would need to erase the data by hand.

Or just set it to 0 at the start of whatever you are tracking

The client does that sorting. You just send it a bunch of Strings.

[ivory sleet]

Client does

[wet breach]

you could either use OfflinePlayer to get the UUID or you could query mojang servers to get UUID. Generally better to use OfflinePlayer since it already has mechanisms in place if the user doesn't exist to query mojang servers as well as built in rate limits since mojang servers only allow so many requests every so often.

Bukkit.getOfflinePlayer(string).getUniqueId();

players name

[ivory sleet]

Yes

It’s not deprecated for removal

Because it might make a request to mojang

To lookup uuid based on name

[wet breach]

because generally you should use UUID to get a offlineplayer object or player object, however sometimes that isn't feasible. It is basically warning you that a players name can change

when a player is offline, they can change their user name via mojang account settings

this is what the deprecation is warning you about

however this doesn't really apply to you

because you want the UUID anyways

not that you are using player names only to store info etc lol

the method that is deprecated is getOfflinePlayer(String) even if you are using methods provided by offline player, that specific method is deprecated and instead should use getOfflinePlayer(UUID) but you are getting their UUID anyways, therefore the deprecation doesn't apply in how you are making use of the method. Also the reason why that method isn't marked for removal because it is needed otherwise how would we lookup UUID's of players 😛

[lost matrix]

Its not deprecated because it gets removed or is draft but simply to make sure people use UUID for retrieval whenever possible. So dont be worried.

getOfflinePlayer will automatically check for online players first

[wet breach]

Player player = Bukkit.getPlayer(username); probably should change this too

for a voting plugin you should always assume players are offline

you can easily check if they are online and convert to a Player Object from offlineplayer

as it provides a method to do so as well as you can cast

you can cast

but if the player isn't on the server though

you are not going to get a valid player object regardless

not without some hacks

doesn't luck perms allow you to query users regardless?

don't think it requires an online player to use its api to query permissions

[eternal oxide]

all permission plugins allow you to query an offline players perms, IF you use their API

[lost matrix]

Or you look directly into the DB and bypass their API.

[eternal oxide]

eww, you need shooting

[wet breach]

still wouldn't require an online player as well

but it seems they are having more troubles using the api then making a simple sql query though lol

[lost matrix]

Dont bother getting an online player directly

[wet breach]

its what I said above

should be using OfflinePlayer until you check and know they are actually on the server

then you could cast it to Player, but I don't really see where they would really need to do that though

OfflinePlayer is all that is needed

[lost matrix]

I mean if he wants to give him immediate feedback then he can call isOnline() and then getPlayer()

But other than that its not really needed, right

[visual tide]

Us vault

Use

perms.has()

But

U gotta run that async

Or luckperms will complain

[wet breach]

using vault isn't needed and just adds another api into the mix, since all vault is going to do is query the permission plugins api anyways

[visual tide]

Vault permissions API ga always worked for me 😐

[wet breach]

means creating a thread

the spigot api has methods for this to make it easier to do things async

[lost matrix]

Not really...

[visual tide]

No need to over complicate stuff
Let the bukkit scheduler do it

[wet breach]

well you are not going to have async any other way

without another thread, it is just sync o.O

[lost matrix]

Yes. You can also do something async on the main thread.

[thick tundra]

Hello, im currently making a plugin and im wondering if anyone can help me with the following issue:
I have an instance of an entity in my class, but once the server unloads that entity i cant use that instance of the entity anymore. anyone here knows how to either keep the chunks at the entity loaded, or how to make it so the refrenced entity doesnt change so i can keep using the object?

[lost matrix]

Async does not mean multi threaded

[visual tide]

iirc you can use the uuid

[lost matrix]

Best example is FAWE. Its async but everything is happening on the main thread.

[thick tundra]

yes but im updating the entity every tick, (armorstand animation).

[wet breach]

I will have to look at it, but I am pretty sure additional threads are created

[thick tundra]

so thats not a good idea i think