help-development

[solid lion]

basically if i removed that whole code within, //START NEW CODE and //END CODE and uncommented my switch the plugin would work fine

yes

[sharp flare]

then dont cancel the event

[solid lion]

i removed the cancel and it still didnt work

[sharp flare]

didn't drop anything?

[solid lion]

thanos

poof

[sharp flare]

your code can be improved a lot in terms of readability

[solid lion]

idk, it is pulling a lot of instances from my config class where i store all my variables and config options

[sharp flare]

debug it, add debug messages on every condition

pretty sure something is not getting fired from your if else statements

[solid lion]

mkay ima test it out with all my messages

[sharp flare]

please use methods

[charred echo]

So I got a function getFruits which returns a mutable List<Fruit> , In the fruit class I have a method makeApple which gives me an instance of a Apple class.

How would I do somethind like

val apples = getFruits().onEach { it.makeApple() }

and have the variable apple be of type List<Apple>

@ me

[sharp flare]

for the sake of readbility

[charred echo]

kotlin btw

[solid lion]

so it completly skipped the for statement and went down to the if statement doing the random number drop math

[sharp flare]

then I'd debug it there if its getting skipped

[solid lion]

wdym? it skipped my debug messages too

[sharp flare]

focus your debug there

it got skipped right?

[solid lion]

i see

[sharp flare]

.

try adding more blocks to your key section

[granite burrow]

how can I get chat color of a string?

[solid lion]

okay now its trying to hit my else statement to drop only one item yet it still drops nothing

[sharp flare]

predefined string?

[granite burrow]

like message from AsyncPlayerChatEvent

[sharp flare]

haven't tried doing chat things, you may try #getFormat or #getMessage

thats from the docs

[sharp flare]

what line is that

[solid lion]

79

i commented it out and then just added the drop amount to be 1 and it still doesnt drop anything though

could it possibly be setting Material drop = Material.AIR causing the issue?

[sharp flare]

if your setting the block to air then this should still give u drops

[granite burrow]

get format is just getting how chat is formatted not the colors in chat

[sharp flare]

then use the other one

[granite burrow]

get message just returns the message not the color

[sharp flare]

when they send the message does it include the "&colorcode" when u get it through #getMessage?

[granite burrow]

no its a formatted chat color message let me try to strip the colors and see what I get

[sharp flare]

so #getMessage just sends a stripped color?

[granite burrow]

to console yeah its stripped of its color, to chat is has all the color, ill show you what I see

thats what e.getMessage is

[solid lion]

sigh im about to summit1G my monitor

[sharp flare]

how about you send me your src let me debug it while I have a lot of free time

is it on github?

[solid lion]

sure gimme a moment to push it to github

[solid lion]

https://github.com/tweedjt/Plugins/tree/master/AutoSmelt3/src/main

[sharp flare]

aight

[sharp flare]

are u using any items for breaking the ores or just normal itemstacks

[solid lion]

just normal itemstacks, but i do have a custom item in there as an option for whoever wants to use it

it still uses the itemstacks though,

[sharp flare]

oh you're using commands to toggle it on

[solid lion]

mhm theres the main command /as to turn it on and off, then asreload to reload the config and /smelt {name} to recieve a pickaxe that autosmelts

[sterile token]

What the difference between: Class<?> clazz and Class<T> clazz?

[sharp flare]

first one is a wildcard

second one is generics

[sterile token]

Yeah and about working?

Its the same or its different?

[sharp flare]

they have different uses

[sterile token]

And thanks for answering

[sharp flare]

you might wanna check java docs

[sterile token]

public class Service<T> {

    private final Set<Object> services = new HashSet<>();

    public void register(T service) {
        this.services.add(service);
    }

    public void unregister(T service) {
        this.services.remove(service);
    }

    public T get(Class<T> service) {
        return this.services.stream().filter(clazz -> clazz.getClass().equals(service) || clazz.getClass().isAssignableFrom(service)).map(service::cast).findAny().orElse(null);
    }
}

What do you think?

[blazing scarab]

I'd use Map

[sterile token]

Okay, why?

Im open to recommedantions

I just ask to understand your idea

[granite burrow]

how can I get the color of a string?

The text is already formatted

[blazing scarab]

Eh, do avoid unecessary looping all over the time?

[sterile token]

Oh i catch it. Like Map<Class, Object>?

[blazing scarab]

Yes

[sterile token]

val?

[sharp flare]

kotlin

[sterile token]

Ah that why didnt understand

I was thinking that syntax its not from java

[sharp flare]

@solid lion

your code is logic mess

100% will not work, after debugging it myself

I guess you gotta rewrite your code, I managed to make it work

fixed the problem your having, you gotta rewrite it yourself . also the items that is being retrieved from the config are never gonna be used unless you make a list outside of the forEach and assign it from there, the main culprit you're not having any drops cuz ur cancelling the event and setting your variable drop to Material.Air, your debugging messages never get sent Idk what utils ur using for that buts it not working and most of all your if else statements are in need of rewriting they are logical mess and thats the reason its not working, your getconfig for retrieving the keys doesn't work so I fixed it in there

[charred echo]

really noice :D

[sterile token]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[tranquil viper]

https://paste.md-5.net/iluyisuviv.cs

Anyone know why this wouldn't show the player or hide the player properly?

It seems to hide them but never ends up showing them

[sharp flare]

create a runnable that would invoke #showPlayer

[tranquil viper]

Yes but that was never necessary in the past?

[sharp flare]

retrieve the player from the map

[solid lion]

Thank you i am already planning on rewriting it, this was my first plugin and it was teaching me to learn java so im still trying to learn better habits and create reusable code 🙂 @sharp flare

[tranquil viper]

wdym

[sharp flare]

happy to help, goodluck! 🙂

[sharp flare]

the one your passing to the parameter of #showPlayer or #hidePlayer is the one that will be hidden to all online players

[solid lion]

Its taken me 3 years to get it that far lmao

[tranquil viper]

LOL

can't believe I did that

that's what I get for writing a plugin at 10:20 pm

thanks

[sharp flare]

no problem 🙂

[sharp flare]

should be toVanish#showPlayer(plugin, player to show)

just change your toVanish variable to online for readability

[quaint mantle]

Hi, so I just used custommodeldata to make a new item. I made a dagger, and it’s overriding the iron sword model. Is it possible to make this dagger independent? As in it can’t use any sword enchantments, and is identified as an independent item

[short raptor]

How can I open a link for the player? I've looked at some threads that say it's only possible when the user explicitly clicks on the link in chat but I know that's false because Hypixel has features where you can click an item in a GUI and it opens a link which is exactly what I want to do

[sullen marlin]

uh

pretty sure its not possible

do you have a mod installed

[short raptor]

I wonder how hypixel does it then

Oh

I think I might be mistaken actually

LOL IM SO DUMB

They use a book

Sorry

[sullen marlin]

yes that is possible

works the same as chat

[raw ibex]

hello is there a way to #938875530378366997

[quasi flint]

He literally said how to do it

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=spigot+remove+all+bossbars

Literally the first link

Is the spigot forum

[quasi flint]

Are u familiar with java?

[quaint mantle]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[terse ore]

which's the difference between creature and entity?

[quaint mantle]

They are the same

In the game

[terse ore]

does EntitySpawnEvent only detect entities spawned naturally?

Or also spawned with spawners

[hybrid ledge]

What is general consensus for libraries? I have one Core plugin with libraries shaded inside JAR and my other plugins are using this Core plugin.
Is it better to use that new mechanism for libraries introduced with 1.17 so libraries will be loaded from Maven central at runtime?

[quasi flint]

Dismembered

[hasty wasp]

it is better to use the lib feature by the spigot 1.18 version.

[terse ore]

    public void onSpawn(CreatureSpawnEvent event) {
        System.out.println("test");
        if (event.getSpawnReason().equals(CreatureSpawnEvent.SpawnReason.NATURAL)) {
            System.out.println(event.getEntity().getName());
        }
    }```

It does not detect mob spawning

am I doing something wrong?

[quasi flint]

U got @EventHandler ?

And registered it in onEnable

[terse ore]

freaking stupid

yeah @EventHandler

[quasi flint]

Kk

[terse ore]

oh yes

omfg

this many mobs spawn at the same time

holly cow

[gloomy arch]

I have a noob question, if I wanted to damage a player every 1.25s when he has a certain state, where would I keep track of this time.

[terse ore]

scheduling?

?scheduling

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[gloomy arch]

Thanks! This looks promising

[terse ore]

yw <3

[zinc spire]

how can i cancel the map render task?

Ok

So if i stop rendering it , the image will disappear or stop updating (freeze)?

[terse ore]

I was trying to make a push command but this isn't pushing

public class test implements CommandExecutor {
    @Override
    public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command command, String label, String[] args) {
        Player player = ((Player) sender).getPlayer();
        player.setVelocity(player.getVelocity().multiply(2));
        return true;
    }
}```

lemme try that

the reason it wasn't pushing was because of I haven't said where to push?

[raw ibex]

Yes

[terse ore]

still not pushing :c

no

but it's the same right?

still the same

[sharp flare]

remove your getPlayer

redundant

casting sender is enough

[terse ore]

k stupid issue

srry 4 bothering

[tardy delta]

Name your class Test not test

[mortal hare]

UIContainerElementPane<T extends UIContainerView<? extends UIContainer<T>>> extends UIContainerElement<T>

mmm yesss

generics

[terse ore]

it's just for testing when I finish I'll delete it

so doesn't rlly matter

oh okok

[tardy delta]

Never start your class name with lowercase

[terse ore]

only that one is lowercase

[calm linden]

?resources

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/

[calm linden]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[terse ore]

it was (Player) sender

without .getPlayer()

[sharp flare]

.....

[blazing rune]

How do I get the last player alive?

[quasi flint]

?

Iterate over online players and check if game mode = 0

Last player standing

[blazing rune]

That ain't gonna work

[quasi flint]

Why tho?

[blazing rune]

Cuz like

It will also get the other players

Who are not dead yet

[quasi flint]

U filter for SURVIVAL players

Or creative the shit u want

[blazing rune]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I'll give that a try

Also

1 more thing

How do I reset a countdown timer I made

[quasi flint]

How shall we know?

We don't have your code

[blazing rune]

I mean like

When it ends

It will reset

[quasi flint]

We need ur code

So we can do shit

Yes man

Line 1750277492

The if else statement

Got a null value

@blazing rune get out of my dms

Rather quickly

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[blazing rune]

https://paste.md-5.net/etizidifef.cpp

THere

Finally I can talk

@quasi flint ^

[quasi flint]

I am in school

No pinging me

[blazing rune]

OOps

Sorry

[quasi flint]

Set the countdown variable to an number

[blazing rune]

Wai

[quasi flint]

And rerun the scheduler

[blazing rune]

tt

Lemme get it

final int[] gameTime = {600};

There

[quasi flint]

Why tf is it an int array?

Could your xplain that to me

[blazing rune]

Intellij told me to do that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[quasi flint]

Why no int gameTime = 600

And the just reset the value once finished

[blazing rune]

I did that

But at some line it said like smth wrong

[blazing rune]

O ok

[quasi flint]

I suspect a little ?learnjava

! learnjava

[blazing rune]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[blazing rune]

:/

[quasi flint]

First learn java

[blazing rune]

Yes i'm doing that-

Which one

Its all in my main

Ok

Yes

For me I find it easier to access

??paste

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

https://paste.md-5.net/

[blazing rune]

https://paste.md-5.net/orevaqaxaq.cpp

Fine ig

Ohh

Yeah

That

[dark arrow]

i am working on a command which sets nearby blocks on fire so is it possible to get near by blocks location?

[unborn palm]

get x y and z possitions with for

i think

[short raptor]

Hey guys, I've found that my plugin is incompatible with another, but I have no idea why. What are some steps to take so that I can figure out what's causing the issue? I don't really know where to start since the error is quite strange:
Cannot invoke "org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.setExecutor(org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor)" because the return value of "org.bukkit.Server.getPluginCommand(String)" is null
Normally you'd see that one when you forget to put your new command in plugin.yml

[dark arrow]

but blocks are some times placed at different y levels

[spiral light]

do you rly use the exact same command name in your plugin.yml and in the getPluginCommand ? also: does the other plugin have the same command name ?

[short raptor]

also: does the other plugin have the same command name ?
Yes, but this is the only plugin where both have the same command name but there's an actual conflict that causes one to not load

There's another where both share a command but they work fine

[dark arrow]

ok

[spiral light]

i think you cant have 2 plugins that use the exact same cmd name and also try to register them .... you should check what getPluginCommand returns and only if not null set listener

[unborn palm]

make 3 loops with x y and z and if block is equals to air skip and continue with other blocks

[short raptor]

How come there are 4 plugins that have the same command, but three of them work fine with mine, and one will cause mine to not load?

Is it because their actual command is something like /command209487209834 and they added an alias for /command ?

[dark arrow]

also how can i look for block in front of players

[spiral light]

if 4 plugins have the same command name and 3 of them work.... you should concider sending the plugin yml of them

[dark arrow]

ok

[sharp flare]

wtf is this code

[blazing rune]

;-;

[sharp flare]

getRelative, and check if above the block is air, set to fire

[grim ice]

btw

i have a question about conventions

[sharp flare]

you can specify your radius in your #getRelative just gotta loop it

[grim ice]

what if i have an acronym

for example

o

why though

so I should have a 25 letters variable instead?

I can just use a comment?

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[wet breach]

depends how well you can understand concepts for programming. If you are really good the last link then

since that is the official Java API 😛

otherwise there is many sites other then what was linked in regards to learning Java

well JS is no where the same as Java

python isn't quite the same but at least with python you have functional programming to a degree down which Java does support, but ideally should be doing OOP with java 😛

[torn shuttle]

Is there a way to modify hitbox sizes without using nms?

huh actually how can it be done at all

[wet breach]

not that I am aware of

[torn shuttle]

looking quickly at forum advice people seem to say you have to raytrace it

[wet breach]

it gets you the hitbox

doesn't let you change it API wise

I suppose you could do that and just apply the hit if it is close enough

[torn shuttle]

well that's not great

[wet breach]

no it isn't lol

[torn shuttle]

god what a mess

the stuff required to make custom models get displayed in-game makes my hair go white

it's not hard it's just very, very dumb

[wet breach]

yeah I am sure for others too 😂

[torn shuttle]

it's like

[young knoll]

What’s this about hitboxes

[torn shuttle]

convert the bbmodel json format to the minecraft json format but split it up by bones

then store your own data about how they relate and move

then animate it tick by tick

by rotating armorstands

then if you want damage you're just going to have to raytrace and I guess scan projectile proximity

there has to be a better solution for hitboxes though

[wet breach]

well hitboxes can be changed as they are hardcoded, just have to find where it is at

so NMS is needed and possibly reflection

[young knoll]

Only works server side though

The client uses their own hitboxes

[wet breach]

yeah won't change how the client sees it

but for some things probably doesn't make a difference

like an example is the hitbox for the wither doesn't include the heads on the sides but server side you could make it do so and thus apply damage in that way 🙂

[young knoll]

You’d have to rayTrace to apply damage but yeah

[wet breach]

a hitbox plugin is probably one of few plugins that can both be a plugin and clientside mod

downside of the mod part is that it would only really work on your server and not anywhere else

[ebon topaz]

public class JoinEvent implements Listener {
    @EventHandler
    public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        event.getPlayer().setResourcePack("https://www.dropbox.com/sh/44cki6n7xai7dir/AAAb1bKbA8CysgOonAnZEPdza?dl=1");
    }
}
``` so when i do this it works technically but doesn't change the texture for sugar but when i put the resource pack in my .minecraft it loads the texture fine?

[wet breach]

not sure if you can force change a clients texture they currently have set

[tardy delta]

I think do it in playerloginevent

[ebon topaz]

but if they dont have one set apart from default

[wet breach]

doesn't mean you can still force change it

[ebon topaz]

well other servers do it

[wet breach]

also, you would need to have the client to have downloaded said resource pack

first

[wet breach]

yes, but not without the users consent

maybe outdated versions you could still do that like 1.8

[ebon topaz]

no it does the this server recommends the use of a custom resource pack and the yes and no thing

[ebon topaz]

but shouldnt it work fine because it still load the resource pack and comes up with the yes or no thing

[tardy delta]

Idk

Ifyou go go the texture pack window is it there?

[ebon topaz]

yeah but the texture for the sugar doesnt change where if i add it to client side through .minecraft it works fine

[wet breach]

if it isn't forced, you can't arbitrarily change the texture pack mid game

that is why the forcing of it is done on the login

if the user hits no, you can have the option to kick

but, after login though you can't force the changing of it

[ebon topaz]

thats not the problem when they hit yes the texture doesnt change

[tardy delta]

Have you already tried applying it in the playerlogin event instead of join? Idk if it may help

[ebon topaz]

i havent yet

[wet breach]

login is the ideal place, because join is after login 🙂

[tardy delta]

That's what i thought

[wet breach]

also you can pause the connection for login for a longer period of time

then you can if they joined

which is nice if its taking them a bit to download that resource pack

for the join part, think at most you can wait 30 seconds before the connection is closed where as on login you can wait as much as like 30 minutes, I would need to relook at the code to confirm that

but it is significantly longer for the login part in terms of waiting

also, it doesn't cause the server to lag on waiting on the login vs the join part

[ebon topaz]

im kinda new to this do i just change PlayerJoinEvent to PlayerLoginEvent?

[wet breach]

I don't know how your code looks, but yeah that is generally sufficient

[next stratus]

In a way, yes you can. You send the download resource pack pop up if they say yes they enter else you can kick them for denying it.

[wet breach]

as far as I am aware this applies in the login or joining portion, I am not aware of it being possible after those phases I could be wrong though

[next stratus]

Oh right ye.. hm. As it's possible during login I wonder if you can do it outside of.

[wet breach]

their code above has it being done in the middle of game play

which I am sure works but doesn't force the client to change packs either

[next stratus]

Mojang pls 🥲

[wet breach]

I wonder if the client reports changing packs

hmmm, doesn't seem like it

if the client at least reported when the pack has changed it would be better on owners considering some games rely on a particular resource pack

[rancid hare]

Why is the .sendPacket now called b?

[quasi flint]

Mojmap mappings

[wet breach]

in the middle of game play?

I am aware of it being done at login and join

join not being the wisest of places

since sometimes it can take more then 30 seconds to download said packs

well sure, but not everyone is running modded clients either

[wet breach]

I know, hence I said it would be nice if the client reported if the pack was changed

this way the server could kick on the basis of the official pack not being used

sure wouldn't get everyone

I am not sure what you are trying to say in regards to what I have said

this only gets sent when the box shows up to accept or not

doesn't indicate during the middle of the gameplay if they changed out the pack is what I am saying

a status of such sent from the client would just be handy for that

I am aware, I guess you are just missing the fact that I am just saying it would be nice if Mojang added it lmao

probably already has been suggested

I am just waiting for Microsoft to stop developing the Java version and then the community can really take control of it and do things that Mojang or Microsoft refused to do

probably won't be much longer, as long as the DRM AKA login stuff is left alone it will be fine to do such things 🙂

[grim ice]

isnt that bad

the client is still rendering stuff and you're sending stuff to it

idk just a guess

[wet breach]

client isn't trying to render anything on login

[grim ice]

and ur not sure if the user is banned or allowed in

[wet breach]

it goes prelogin, login, join

[grim ice]

OH

i didnt know prelogin existed

[wet breach]

but on the prelogin or login the client isn't trying to render anything and that is where you should be doing your ban check and resource pack sending

because those two events allow you to make the client wait for far longer if it is necessary or if the client needs time

the join part is where the client starts to try to render stuff and where time out limits decrease

the time out limit decreases because there is a packet the server and client need to send/respond to, but in the prelogin and login phases this packet isn't part of that so therefore it is the socket timeout you can wait up to

[grim ice]

o

[wet breach]

TCP socket timeout by default is 15 minutes

you can if you want increase this either from modifying the code or the OS settings

generally better to do it from the code this way you don't affect all applications like what would happen if done from the OS settings 😛

[earnest wigeon]

um..

i can't use mvn clean install

i added path and restart but not work

[wet breach]

some logs would be handy

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[wet breach]

second, why are you doing maven clean every time?

you shouldn't really need to do that

[earnest wigeon]

i can't export my server jar

[wet breach]

again, some logs would be handy

we can't go based off what you are saying because you haven't presented a specific problem we can work at. There is like few hundred reasons why it isn't working

but if you use the link above to paste a log

we could narrow down what exactly is going on

[earnest wigeon]

https://paste.md-5.net/docipetepi.sql

[wet breach]

well that is an easy problem

you don't have maven installed

install maven using your OS package repo or use this link to install manually https://maven.apache.org/

[earnest wigeon]

i install,added path and restart

but not work

[wet breach]

Maven isn't dependent on Java

the shell they are using is saying maven can't be found

[earnest wigeon]

i use java 17

[wet breach]

usually an indicator of not installed or it isn't on the path

however you don't necessarily need maven on the path, you could invoke the binary directly if you use the full path

but currently the issue of invoking maven needs to be resolved first for whatever they are trying to do. Either they need to install it or add it to the path if it is already installed. Or invoke directly if adding to path isn't working and also installed.

[earnest wigeon]

rebuildPatches.sh

..?

[spare prism]

is there a way to get the new item slot in the InventoryDragItemEvent without iterating over the inventory and searching for the item?

[tender shard]

getSlots?

[worldly ingot]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/inventory/InventoryDragEvent.html#getInventorySlots()

Yeah

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/inventory/InventoryDragEvent.html#getInventorySlots()
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/inventory/InventoryDragEvent.html#getRawSlots()

[worldly ingot]

Dragging is multiple slots so you can do with that what you will

If you want where the dragging stopped, that's not really exposed

I don't think Minecraft really cares where it stops

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/inventory/InventoryDragEvent.html#getCursor()

wouldn't that work?

if you wanted to know where it stopped XD

[worldly ingot]

That gets the item on the cursor

akin to InventoryClickEvent#getCursor()

[wet breach]

well the drag can't stop if the click wasn't released

unless the client is just weird like it usually is

[spare prism]

Thanks

[red sedge]

how can I make proper rotation system

for placing blocks

like the chest

or uh pumpkins

[dark arrow]

is it possible to create a custom event

[red sedge]

yes

[quaint mantle]

?customevent

?event

?cusevent

?cursedevent

@hasty prawn nooo this is not the day 😦

?eventcustom

[hasty prawn]

[quaint mantle]

?customev

@ivory sleet what is that command ☹️

[spiral light]

?customevents

?customesevents

[hasty prawn]

?eventapi

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/

[quaint mantle]

noooooo

[midnight shore]

Hi guys! I'm making an animation using armorstands and spectator mode, is there any way to get an event when the player quits spectating the armor stand so i can cancel it and make it stay inside the armor stand as long as the animation goes on?

[visual tide]

is it possible to stop flowers from popping off when on the wrong block? does BlockPhysicsEvent trigger if that happens

[hasty prawn]

It probably does, that's a tryitandsee moment

[hasty prawn]

Do they stop spectating by crouching

[midnight shore]

yes

[hasty prawn]

Actually nvm, I don't think there's a stop spectating event so I would just check every few ticks if they're still spectating and if they aren't then make them spectate again

[midnight shore]

how can i check if it is spectating?

are there any methods?

[dark arrow]

thx

[hasty prawn]

getSpectatorTarget

[midnight shore]

ok! perfect

[dark arrow]

?eventapi

[midnight shore]

ty

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/

[dark arrow]

?help

[undone axle]

CafeBabe Help Menu

*Red V3*

**__Admin:__**

selfrole Add or remove a selfrole from yourself.

**__Cleanup:__**

cleanup Base command for deleting messages.

**__Core:__**

embedset Commands for toggling embeds on or off.
info Shows info about CafeBabe.
licenseinfo Get info about Red's licenses.
mydata Commands which interact with the data CafeBabe has about...
set Commands for changing CafeBabe's settings.
uptime Shows CafeBabe's uptime.

**__Downloader:__**

findcog Find which cog a command comes from.

**__Mod:__**

names Show previous names and nicknames of a member.
userinfo Show information about a member.

**__ModLog:__**

listcases List cases for the specified member.
reason Specify a reason for a modlog case.

**__Permissions:__**

permissions Command permission management tools.

Type ?help <command> for more info on a command. You can also type ?help <category> for more info on a category.

[spiral light]

?mydata

[undone axle]

CafeBabe Help Menu

Syntax: ?mydata 

Commands which interact with the data CafeBabe has about you.

More information can be found in the End User Data Documentation.

**__Subcommands:__**

3rdparty View the End User Data statements of each 3rd-party mo...
forgetme Have CafeBabe forget what it knows about you.
getmydata [Coming Soon] Get what data CafeBabe has about you.
whatdata Find out what type of data CafeBabe stores and why.

Type ?help <command> for more info on a command. You can also type ?help <category> for more info on a category.

[spiral light]

?uptime

[undone axle]

Been up for: 27 days, 16 hours, 48 minutes, 38 seconds (since <t:1641595966:f>)

[hasty prawn]

?whatdata

Ok LOL

[spiral light]

?mydata 3rdparty

[undone axle]

I need to be able to attach files (try in DMs?).

[spiral light]

hm

[hasty prawn]

Oh those are sub commands

?mydata whatdata

[undone axle]

This bot stores some data about users as necessary to function. This is mostly the ID your user is assigned by Discord, linked to a handful of things depending on what you interact with in the bot. There are a few commands which store it to keep track of who created something. (such as playlists) For full details about this as well as more in depth details of what is stored and why, see https://docs.discord.red/en/stable/red_core_data_statement.html.

Additionally, 3rd party addons loaded by the bot's owner may or may not store additional things. You can use ?mydata 3rdparty to view the statements provided by each 3rd-party addition.

[midnight shore]

Hi guys again! I was trying to remove an EntityPlayer but i don't know what enum to use, as they are all called with letters

[hasty prawn]

Yes

[neon minnow]

Hi all, im making a double jump and the way I handle is when the player hurt event from fall damage happens it will remove the playername from array so it can be used again, however sometimes the player hurt event does not execute depending on the players position when they finished double jumping they would only jump a couple of blocks so they would not get hurt. How do i efficiently remove double jump? I was thinking async waiting after they jump three seconds then remove their name so they can double jump again?
Thanks

[spiral light]

do you know player.isOnGround ?

[wet breach]

there is very little you can do in regards to the quit event and a lot of the data part of the player object is gone. So you are limited in terms in what you able to use it for, instead you should cast it to OfflinePlayer instead if there is stuff you need from it.

[neon minnow]

No? what do you mean. i just said event doesnt fire always, you want me to check it after a couple seconds ?

[naive bolt]

tf you mean lol

[spiral light]

you can check if the play is back on the ground with player-isOnGround

[neon minnow]

ohh okay

but how do i wait a few sec async

[wet breach]

you are trying to do things with a player object that is otherwise going to be null hence why vanishdata is null

[neon minnow]

idk how to do that

[naive bolt]

no it doesnt matter

i fixed it

[wet breach]

well if its fixed, then its fixed I suppose. Don't mind me then

[neon minnow]

do i check after a few sec?

[obtuse ferry]

Is there a way to convert ChatColor.COLOUR to "&x"

[spiral light]

depends... if you allow them to use double jump via flying is enabled you need to check it many times ... also buggy to use flying for this... most servers swapped to jump + sneak instead of double jumping

[tardy delta]

ChatColour.SOMETHING adds the § symbol interally iirc

[spiral light]

.toString() ?

[obtuse ferry]

Does #getChar() get 6 from gold for example

[midnight shore]

Hi guys how can i remove an entityplayer from the tab list?

[spiral light]

another var in PacketPlayOutPlayerInfo.EnumPlayerInfoAction ...
there are 3 or 4 (a,b,c,d maybe?)

one of them is:

removing;
adding;
update-gamemode;
and update-ping

[midnight shore]

so i only have to try?

[spiral light]

what version ?

[midnight shore]

1.17

[spiral light]

gimme a sec

[midnight shore]

okay

[midnight shore]

Uh! ty, what is that?

[spiral light]

a webpage

[midnight shore]

is it open source?

[hybrid spoke]

[spiral light]

well i think so

but ehm not updated on github xD

[quaint mantle]

?mydata forgotme

[undone axle]

CafeBabe Help Menu

Syntax: ?mydata 

Commands which interact with the data CafeBabe has about you.

More information can be found in the End User Data Documentation.

**__Subcommands:__**

3rdparty View the End User Data statements of each 3rd-party mo...
forgetme Have CafeBabe forget what it knows about you.
getmydata [Coming Soon] Get what data CafeBabe has about you.
whatdata Find out what type of data CafeBabe stores and why.

Type ?help <command> for more info on a command. You can also type ?help <category> for more info on a category.

[quaint mantle]

?mydata getmydata

[undone axle]

This command doesn't do anything yet, but we're working on adding support for this.

[quaint mantle]

?mydate whatdata

hes just

gone

[tardy delta]

nice

[spiral light]

https://timcloud.ddns.net/mapping/
you need to wait for the page to load completly ... and then you can use top left search bar for class names and get an extra page (that you can save for later use) or scroll all the way down those 5000 classes

[tardy delta]

?mydata SELECT * FROM USERS WHERE 1 = 1 lol

[undone axle]

CafeBabe Help Menu

Syntax: ?mydata 

Commands which interact with the data CafeBabe has about you.

More information can be found in the End User Data Documentation.

**__Subcommands:__**

3rdparty View the End User Data statements of each 3rd-party mo...
forgetme Have CafeBabe forget what it knows about you.
getmydata [Coming Soon] Get what data CafeBabe has about you.
whatdata Find out what type of data CafeBabe stores and why.

Type ?help <command> for more info on a command. You can also type ?help <category> for more info on a category.

[tardy delta]

kekw

[ornate heart]

What could be the cause of this?

Whenever a letter with an accent is saved to config it (è) it comes back as this weird character shown in the picture. As you can see in the second picture, the accent saves completely fine to the config, it's just that for whatever reason whenever it tries to read this value from the configuration file, it messes up.

[naive bolt]

?mydata whatdata

[undone axle]

This bot stores some data about users as necessary to function. This is mostly the ID your user is assigned by Discord, linked to a handful of things depending on what you interact with in the bot. There are a few commands which store it to keep track of who created something. (such as playlists) For full details about this as well as more in depth details of what is stored and why, see https://docs.discord.red/en/stable/red_core_data_statement.html.

Additionally, 3rd party addons loaded by the bot's owner may or may not store additional things. You can use ?mydata 3rdparty to view the statements provided by each 3rd-party addition.

[spiral light]

uff ... what did i start here O.o

[tardy delta]

storing the id for the user that doesnt makes sense

[spiral light]

? what do you mean

[midnight shore]

tysm

[tardy delta]

you can get the discord id by code like Player#getUniqueId does

[naive bolt]

but it probs uses a database

so SELECT * FROM something WHERE user_id = "id"

[neon minnow]

Caused by: java.lang.ClassCastException: class org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerMoveEvent cannot be cast to class org.bukkit.entity.Player (org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerMoveEvent and org.bukkit.entity.Player are in unnamed module of loader 'app')

[spiral light]

uff

[neon minnow]

val p = e as Player
if (p.isOnGround) {

[spiral light]

dont use "val p" if you not know what those stuff does

[neon minnow]

???

[spiral light]

also an Event cant be an Player

the Event can have a player involved or just an entity

to get the Player/Entity from an Event you can use
event.getPlayer()
or
event.getEntity()

some events provide more then 1 entity getter (EntityDamageByEntityEvent)
event.getEntity will return the Entity which got dammaged
and event.getDamager returns the Entity which did that dmg

[maiden thicket]

kotlin 😳

[spiral light]

also kotlin for the start might be more difficulty then just a normal proj with maven

[neon minnow]

Ty

[quaint mantle]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[neon minnow]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[quaint mantle]

why... would you even try to cast the event to player?

[neon minnow]

No

I fixed it

You dont get it

[quaint mantle]

No I don't.

[minor otter]

any idea how one might try to cancel the initial block breaking animation from going through, like when you give a player mining fatigue upon hitting a block it still has a tiny delay where on their screen the block appears more broken than it should be, would sending my own block breaking packets override that?

[winged spindle]

Can someone help me pls
I'm using TextComponent from net/md_5/chat/TextComponent
I clearly imported it. It's in my project files but it's still throwing me this
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/md_5/bungee/api/chat/TextComponent at de.louidev.louicity.houses.SellhouseCommand.onCommand(SellhouseCommand.java:30) ~[?:?] at org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.execute(PluginCommand.java:45) ~[bukkit-1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?] ... 21 more Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: net.md_5.bungee.api.chat.TextComponent at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass0(PluginClassLoader.java:147) ~[bukkit-1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?] at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass(PluginClassLoader.java:99) ~[bukkit-1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?] at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:520) ~[?:?] at de.louidev.louicity.houses.SellhouseCommand.onCommand(SellhouseCommand.java:30) ~[?:?] at org.bukkit.command.PluginCommand.execute(PluginCommand.java:45) ~[bukkit-1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?] ... 21 more

[lapis widget]

Your running bukkit instead of spigot @winged spindle

[winged spindle]

that's really it? i just have to use spigot and not bukkit

?

[lapis widget]

Yep

[winged spindle]

huh

well thank you

[lapis widget]

You shouldn't be using bukkit in the first place btw

[winged spindle]

k

[obtuse ferry]

Do I need to use NBT API again or is there a new spigot api method since 1.8 for nbt tags

[neon minnow]

What would you use instead

Yeah aint doing that lmao

Like what

[tardy delta]

should i use strings as primary key in a database, im trying to store kingdoms and they cant have the same name

[hasty prawn]

The client controls whether isOnGround is true iirc, that's why it's deprecated.

[tardy delta]

what the hell

[hasty prawn]

Meaning it can be falsified by a hacked client

[hasty prawn]

Yes, if that's what needs to be unique.

[tardy delta]

ok but why got i four databases now

[hasty prawn]

It's just being thorough!

[tardy delta]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[tardy delta]

does this looks good tho? especially the intialize method?

https://paste.md-5.net/bukidiciju.java

[leaden belfry]

Hey! I got a problem when using a Kotlin plugin compiled w/ ShadowJar.

When importing it from another plugin I can use it's classes properly and the new plugin compiles, but the IDE does not detect the import correctly and everything is red, even though it compiles. Any idea?

I thought it could be the ShadowJar compilation, but checked other projects and they are not doing anything special

[tardy delta]

its kinda weird that you cant call a static field in an enum initializor however you can use a static method

which just returns the field ;/

[elder oyster]

Would Team.addEntry() work with UUID instead of the players name?

[tardy delta]

?tryandsee

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee

[minor otter]

has anyone here worked with mushroom blocks as a custom block before?

I am trying to give the player a mining fatigue effect upon the onBlockDamageEvent but if you use any high level axe the block breaks before the event is even passed so they still get the effect but the block is already gone

[hasty prawn]

Cancel the break event

[minor otter]

would that look funky in game with the block reappearing?

ill run it if its the best option

[tardy delta]

the block will reappear

[hasty prawn]

Kinda, but there's not really another option unfortunately

[minor otter]

yeah ive browsed online and havent been able to see a better option

[hasty prawn]

Or use a different block I suppose

Note blocks and Glazed Terracotta are decent options

[minor otter]

I would use noteblocks but I dont want to take such a large block out of the game

How many blockstates are on glazed terracotta?

[hasty prawn]

4 each

It's just the rotation

[minor otter]

I think im just gonna have to stick with mushroom and accept that its going to look a little funky

[hasty prawn]

Which states of mushroom blocks are you using? Aren't they all technically obtainable on survival by placing blocks in the right places

[young knoll]

Yes

[hasty prawn]

Thought so

[minor otter]

yeah but im cancelling the ability to change blockstate and going to replace natural mushrooms with only full sided versions

[hasty prawn]

Ahh gotcha

That's actually a good solution I might steal that

[minor otter]

I was pretty proud of it until i found out axes annhilate my entire system

[hasty prawn]

Yeah... You could try giving them mining fatigue if they look at a mushroom block with an axe I suppose

[minor otter]

I thought about that but wasn't sure how optimised that may be

[hasty prawn]

Then pray it affects them before they click

I would just try both and see which you like more

[minor otter]

yeah yeah

[tardy delta]

would it be a good idea to save all the members of a kingdom in a collection the kingdom class and the kingdom the user belongs to in the user class or just on one place?

i assume that looping over all the members of a kingdom is easier than looping over all the users and determining whether or not that user is in that kingdom

[blazing scarab]

You have errors. Trace files are error logs

[tardy delta]

ah and the other one? (second one)

[blazing scarab]

Prolly did something strange

[tardy delta]

yea :C

[raw ibex]

how to remove all bossbars

[tardy delta]

wont this work?

[obtuse ferry]

Any ideas why the message doesnt appear and the function doesnt run?

The event works as the enchantmenu stuff below works

I just added another message and it 100% is running

e.getWhoClicked().sendMessage("EVENT");
if (e.getAction() == InventoryAction.SWAP_WITH_CURSOR) {
    e.getWhoClicked().sendMessage("SWAP WITH CURSOR");
    applyEnchantBook((Player) e.getWhoClicked(), e.getCursor(), e.getCurrentItem());
}

Tried if (e.getAction().equals(InventoryAction.SWAP_WITH_CURSOR)) { also doesnt work

[blazing scarab]

immutability moment

[tardy delta]

Validate.notNull moment

you can compare enums constants with == too

[blazing scarab]

what enum constants

[tardy delta]

ah i mean this

:C

[obtuse ferry]

void

I just changed it a bit

and changed the action thing to

if (e.getCursor() != null && e.getCurrentItem() != null) {
    if (e.getCursor().getType() == Material.ENCHANTED_BOOK) {
        applyEnchantBook((Player) e.getWhoClicked(), e.getCursor(), e.getCurrentItem());
    }
}

And its at least running now

The e.getAction() == InventoryAction.SWAP_WITH_CURSOR wasnt working

It wasnt true when I was swapping items

I just used a different less performant method

[neon minnow]

Hi i need some help

InventoryClickEvent is not starting

[obtuse ferry]

Did you register the event

[neon minnow]

i registered the class yes

[young knoll]

Is it annotated

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[neon minnow]

https://paste.md-5.net/edivelanij.coffeescript

Bukkit.getServer().pluginManager.registerEvents(inventoryCore() as Listener, this as Plugin)

So what?

Lmao

[obtuse ferry]

Okay now my remove book isnt working

player.getInventory().remove(book); does not remove the book

[neon minnow]

If you are not going to help, dont mention it at all

Thanks.

[ivory sleet]

use an extension function there

[obtuse ferry]

How can I remove the cursor item then

[ivory sleet]

🙂

[tardy delta]

is a double in java a DOUBLE in sql? i guess yea

[young knoll]

That still won’t work

Iirc there is a setItemOnCursor in inventory view

[obtuse ferry]

Thats what book is

Like you say its not in inventory

apparently player.setItemOnCursor(null); works

[quaint mantle]

how can i remove the empty bottle when someone drink a potion

[obtuse ferry]

kk

[young knoll]

Maybe it is on player

Idk it’s somewhere

[young shell]

Whats the Equivalent to NBTTagCompount in 1.18.1

[young knoll]

You’ll have to check both hands

[blazing scarab]

CompoundTag iirc

nms.screamingsandals.org

[obtuse ferry]

Thats cursed

[trim creek]

wow

[young shell]

Is there something like hasKey() in 1.18.1 on NBT

[trim creek]

0.5 attack is a good rate, I guess. 😆

[ivory sleet]

anyhow, you need to pass ur plugin instance, cant cast this to Plugin whenever you want

[obtuse ferry]

I tried to replace the sword with the updated one with

e.getRawSlot()
player.getInventory().setItem(itemSlot, item);  // update the item

[tardy delta]

heh does anyone knows if a float in java is FLOAT or BIGINT in mysql?

[obtuse ferry]

this doesnt work

[ivory sleet]

and shouldnt have to do it with your inventoryCore also assuming its a class which extends Listener

[blazing scarab]

https://nms.screamingsandals.org/1.18.1/net/minecraft/nbt/CompoundTag.html

[obtuse ferry]

Float since its a float not a big integer?

[tardy delta]

._.

sometimes im confused about float and long

[obtuse ferry]

long is an integer

Wait a minute

Ive been testing in creative

[neon minnow]

my ide is telling me to create a class when I want to use

PacketPlayOutAnimation()

Why? What to import so i can use

ty

[obtuse ferry]

I read somewhere that SWAP_WITH_CURSOR doesnt work in creative

[raw ibex]

will that work?

[young shell]

Is there something like hasKey() in 1.18.1 on NBT

[raw ibex]

i'm asking

[blazing scarab]

check the mappings

[tardy delta]

i dont knwo

[raw ibex]

ok

[young shell]

I didn't find anything, thats why I'm asking to make sure I didn't miss anything

[blazing scarab]

.

[neon minnow]

https://ibb.co/TmsrZQL

why this happen pls

[young shell]

Yeah totally overlooked that

Thanks, I may apply for legal blindness lmao

[tardy delta]

whats that site?

[vernal minnow]

how can i disable player collision on a 1.18.1 server?

all i searched on the internet does not work

[obtuse ferry]

player.setItemOnCursor(null); also didnt work in creative

player.getInventory().setItem(itemSlot, item); // update the item for some reason puts the item in my hand?

[neon minnow]

https://ibb.co/TmsrZQL
Why am i getting this error?

Cant import net mc?

[sleek turret]

No one can help you if you just mention the error

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[neon minnow]

paste what

[sleek turret]

the error

[neon minnow]

Look

https://ibb.co/TmsrZQL

Unresolved reference: minecraft

cant find it

need import for PacketPlayOutAnimation()

[sleek turret]

weird

check your dependencies

[trim creek]

If I would use packets to set the player's displayname on the tab, and on their visible name (aka nametag), would I be able to make per-player scoreboards?

I mean, if I just simply use the team feature, the per-player scoreboard just dies

[young shell]

How can I reobfuscate the NMS dependencies when I do a Mvn package

Because I can't use the mojang-remapped ones

[neon minnow]

i added spigot . jar as a library?

[hasty prawn]

Did you add spigot-api

Because thats wrong if you did

[neon minnow]

added spigot jar

[sleek turret]

im not exactly sure what the problem is, i dont use kotlin

[neon minnow]

dude its not a kotlin issue

i cannot import net.minecraft

im using Intellij

[blazing scarab]

1.8.8 cringe

[neon minnow]

nvm

Fixed

[neon minnow]

You are cringe 😬

[blazing scarab]

😬

[hasty prawn]

Ah yes, be mean to the people who try to help you.

Brilliant plan

[sleek turret]

lmao

[hasty prawn]

Hope you don't need anymore help 😄

[sleek turret]

^^

[neon minnow]

He was not the one that was helping me

Just making unnecessary comments

No one cares.

[hasty prawn]

Doesn't really matter, you're not showing that you're going to be someone fun to help by saying stuff like that.

[blazing scarab]

Using a supported software is always a better practice

[hasty prawn]

^

[sleek turret]

You also are just really rude with people trying to help, you give like tiny bits of information and then when we try to figure stuff out u just give us attitude

[hybrid spoke]

1.8 ftw

[hasty prawn]

Time to use 1.9

[hybrid spoke]

will stay at 1.5.2 but thanks

[sterile token]

I have been using 1.8.8 R3 since March-April 2019 and never had problems

[trim creek]

I also used 1.8.9 a lot

Didn't had too many problems

[grim ice]

Same

never had problems with 1.8

[neon minnow]

yep

[grim ice]

newer versions are just more convenient ig

[lapis widget]

no just no

[ivory sleet]

yes just yes

[blazing scarab]

So you like sitting on trashy legacy api anf fucking with internals i guess

[terse ore]

How can I get WorldBorder getcenter()?

[blazing scarab]

Ill just do hideEntity when you'd have to send and listen to packets

[lapis widget]

The API of 1.9+ is more annoying to me

[blazing scarab]

Ill just use pdc when you'd have to mess with nbt

[ivory sleet]

how?

its almost identical to 1.8

not many major changes

[hasty prawn]

How can you hate more features and bug fixes

[blazing scarab]

but pvp!!!!!!!

[terse ore]

How do I use WorldBorder#getCenter()

?

[terse ore]

it isn't that bad

ppl exagerate it

[blazing scarab]

Are you talking about 1.8?

[terse ore]

I like both pvps

[lapis widget]

1.9+ pvp is discusting

[blazing scarab]

Tbh, i'd even say 1.9 is better than 1.8

[terse ore]

yeah

[ivory sleet]

thats entirely subjective tho, and that does in fact not justify why you would like the api for 1.8 more

[terse ore]

I prefer 1.8 but being realistic 1.9 is more acurrated

Is like going to WW1 and start making people fly

[neon minnow]

1.8.8 is the most popular version ever

[terse ore]

by punching them

[neon minnow]

for servers

[terse ore]

people don't appreciate 1.9

it was one of the best updates

[neon minnow]

most support easy to use and also the highest amount of ppl playing mc are 1.8 easily put in viaversion and boom u can have a server with all version supported since 1.8

[ivory sleet]

can you provide statistics supporting your assertion?

[terse ore]

^^

[lapis widget]

can you proof that its not

[hasty prawn]

I can prove that it isn't! :D

[ivory sleet]

just look at bstats for instance lol

^

[terse ore]

where is that from?

[hasty prawn]

bstats

https://bstats.org/global/bukkit

[terse ore]

ty <3

[lapis widget]

thats litterly the first thing I disable lol

[trim creek]

I have no problems with version

[terse ore]

bruh

[neon minnow]

all 1.8 servers disable bstats

[trim creek]

I really don't understand you guys

[hasty prawn]

Bungeecord

[trim creek]

You are just hating ppl using 1.8

Because just its old

[neon minnow]

this

[trim creek]

It makes no sense

[neon minnow]

hypixel uses 1.8

[ivory sleet]

proof?

[terse ore]

no

[neon minnow]

mineplex uses 1.8

[ivory sleet]

they dont use 1.8 lol

they use 1.7

[terse ore]

💀

[hasty prawn]

Do they really Conclure?

[ivory sleet]

but its whole different story when you maintain your own software

Dessie, they used to at least

for some of their servers

[hasty prawn]

thats pretty funny

[terse ore]

wth is yatopia and catserver

[hasty prawn]

Surely they've updated considering 1.7 isn't supported on them anymore

[blazing scarab]

Pretty sure, Hypixel uses 1.8 because of their gigantic legacy codebase. You have a great chanve to keep everything updated

[terse ore]

wait what

[neon minnow]

this guy really crying over someone who uses 1.8

[terse ore]

I am confused af rn

with the stats

[neon minnow]

its really not that bad

[terse ore]

we aren't saying it's bad

[delicate lynx]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[hasty prawn]

No one is crying, we're just telling you that it's not the best idea.

[neon minnow]

who made this 😂

[blazing scarab]

I will not stop bullying you

[ivory sleet]

anyways stating that just 1.8 server owners are merely the ones who turn off bstats is bullshit

[hasty prawn]

^

[terse ore]

wait what

6 YEARS???

[neon minnow]

Noppe

[terse ore]

the time flies wtf

[delicate lynx]

look at the page source, it has the author at the top

[terse ore]

I feel old with 16y xd

[ivory sleet]

I understand why people use 1.8, but the api is objectively worse

[neon minnow]

No?

[trim creek]

I guess for a pvp server like Hypixel, 1.8 is still a great idea. Ofc for a modern project 1.18 is highly better.

[neon minnow]

bruh i can easily update to latest version, im making my plugin and i tried out 1.18 no problems

[lapis widget]

its phoenix who made it

I think

[hasty prawn]

Ofc yes, you should have solid reasoning behind supporting 1.8.8. If you're using it just for the hell of it you're doing something wrong

[ivory sleet]

yes because there is an api to begin with lol

[delicate lynx]

1.8 server owners when they have to use an outdated plugin to get it to work

[ivory sleet]

its pretty funny that you can emulate pvp (w/o bh tho) and kb completely on any version but 1.8 to match 1.8

[hasty prawn]

Ikr

[ivory sleet]

all things considered, 1.8 users substantially neglect it sadly

[hasty prawn]

All 1.9+ features/bug fixes, or block hitting... very difficult decision really.

[ivory sleet]

yeah, what a true dilemma

[wet breach]

hypixel maintains their own fork, just because they use 1.8 doesn't mean everyone else should. The difference between random pleebs using 1.8 and hypixel is the fact hypixel isn't coming here to complain that something isn't working.

[trim creek]

This is true, but as I know, they don't really want to change

At this moment

[neon minnow]

Everytime i came here, it was not because of 1.8 wasnt working. there are no issues for me

[wet breach]

well they are not the majority so that is fine, but you can't use outdated software and then also want to complain when something isn't working

[hasty prawn]

Oh I'm sure they want to, they just can't.

[terse ore]

but you came for that

[neon minnow]

No. I came here because i wanted to import net.minecraft

that has nothing to do with a version.

[hasty prawn]

What even was the issue

[neon minnow]

Importing net.minecraft to use packets for animations.

[ivory sleet]

Anyways breh I’m enthusiastic towards that you use kotlin

[hasty prawn]

No I know but what was wrong

[brave sparrow]

No we don’t lmao, we use 1.8

[neon minnow]

I just couldnt import it Cuz i didnt know how to but then i figured it out 😄

[hasty prawn]

Ah

[wet breach]

NMS does have to do with a specific version because between each version dictates how it must be done and which kind of reflection you may or may not need

[hasty prawn]

Im sorry for your loss

[ivory sleet]

for all servers except the smps (and proxies but ye)?

[neon minnow]

im pretty sure Packet animations are similar

packetplayoutanimation

[wet breach]

between each version? Depends which versions you want to compare because packets are based on the protocol

[brave sparrow]

It’s a fork so if I want a new api I just make it

[wet breach]

sometimes the protocol between one version to another can be similar while other times significantly different

[hasty prawn]

Exactly, sounds like too much effort.

[brave sparrow]

We don’t have anything running 1.7 and haven’t for like 6 years

[ivory sleet]

oh nvm me then, fair

[wet breach]

not that using 1.7 as a base would be any differently really XD

[brave sparrow]

It’s actually pretty nice, I have some nice events spigot still doesn’t have iirc

[wet breach]

but it makes more sense to use 1.8 due to the whole UUID thing 😛

[brave sparrow]

Would’ve made my viaversion fork a bigger pain 😂

[wet breach]

I should say 1.8 makes an easier base to fork from

[neon minnow]

Like?

[brave sparrow]

Off the top of my head (not sure if spigot still doesn’t have this to be fair), I have a way to get all the drops from when a player breaks a block, and modify or clear it or anything else on the event

[neon minnow]

i got mineplex source code (1.6.4) from 2014 😂

[brave sparrow]

Yeah for sure, and any 1.7 functionality is easy to bring back

I believe we have the 1.7 hunger rate

[wet breach]

well what I was getting at with 1.7 was the fact that you would need to upgrade the protocol anyways

since UUID's came into play officially in 1.8

[brave sparrow]

Yeah 1.7->1.8 was a total pain

[wet breach]

as far as game mechanics go

yeah definitely can easily implement 1.7 in 1.8

[brave sparrow]

Lol

We used to maintain a nightmare spigot fork with all of the different versions supported

[blazing scarab]

Probably the old message

[brave sparrow]

But that was a crazy hassle

[wet breach]

I think that is probably accurately named

[neon minnow]

import mineplex.core.common.util.Callback;
import mineplex.core.common.util.FileUtil;
import mineplex.core.common.util.MapUtil;
import nautilus.minecraft.core.utils.ZipUtil;
import net.minecraft.server.v1_6_R3.ChunkPreLoadEvent;

😂

[brave sparrow]

Hypixel probably does still use 1.7 in places

[wet breach]

wouldn't surprise me

but it would be nice if people stopped comparing hypixel or mineplex as a valid reason to continue using 1.8 or even 1.7

when both places are running their own forks which isn't quite the same thing

[neon minnow]

bro most successful mc servers support 1.8 - latest

[wet breach]

by now, you could probably say they have their own implementations where you couldn't tell it was spigot or some other base fork

[brave sparrow]

In all fairness I don’t have an issue with someone continuing to support 1.8, there are still servers running it and players playing it

[brave sparrow]

I definitely wouldn’t go that far lol

[hasty prawn]

There's nothing inherently wrong with supporting 1.8, you just shouldn't unless you really have to

[wet breach]

well if I do anything in relation to outdated software it wouldn't be to support the players

it would be more because certain versions are easier to work from in terms of backend

[hasty prawn]

I would only support them for a larger audience

[brave sparrow]

Very dependent on your target market and the needs in that market

[hasty prawn]

Yes

[wet breach]

for instance if you wanted a more optimal bungee mc server where everyone goes to first, 1.8 makes a lot more sense code wise to use because it already has a lot of things cut out, just need to implement updated protocol of whatever you are making use of instead of not using 😛

[hasty prawn]

Someone just needs to make a 1.8 Animations mods for latest, then maybe we wouldn't have to deal with this anymore

[wet breach]

lol

if that is all its going to take to have more people move to latest

then I should seek out this mod

and update it XD

[hasty prawn]

We have OrangeMarshall's 1.7 animations mod for Forge, only works for 1.8 though :(

So that helps us exactly not at all

[wet breach]

but yeah you could say my biggest gripe in terms of people using outdated software is people keep expecting to get some kind of support for it instead of just understanding for the most part you are on your own

and if there is some kind of bug, yeah it is not going to get patched XD

exceptions being I guess security related

[hasty prawn]

Should've only fixed the log4j issue in 1.18 and used that as a reason to get people to update

[wet breach]

wouldn't have bothered me

some people wouldn't like that but again goes back to if you are going to use outdated software then you accept all risks that come with it

all being literally anything and everything XD

[hasty prawn]

exactly

[blazing scarab]

yes

[naive bolt]

what should i replace is with

[blazing scarab]

pass the plugin in constructor

[naive bolt]

what

[blazing scarab]

in what context

where do you use this

[naive bolt]

commandManager.java

[blazing scarab]

in commandManager, pass the plugin in constructor.
https://www.w3schools.com/java/java_constructors.asp

so you do new CommandManager(plugin)

[naive bolt]

in where? main file?

[ionic dagger]

I’m looking at kody Simpsons spigot plug-in tutorials, would they still be useful?

They were posted 8 months ago

[minor otter]

you think playermoveevent would be best for that?

[hasty prawn]

That or checking every few ticks

[wet breach]

this isn't inherently bad, however you should use Dependency Injection. But if your plugin isn't something that is designed to be depended on or you are not going to provide an API then really it doesn't make too much of a difference between getting the main class instance using a static or via constructor.

[minor otter]

I would rather not test every few ticks unless it was like every two or three because it could occur after the player clicks and do nothing

highly unlikely but possible

[blazing scarab]

There's service manager, so singletones are not necessary even if plugin meant to be depent on

[wet breach]

doesn't make much sense to use service manager to obtain the main class instance of your own plugin

[blazing scarab]

ehh

[wet breach]

using a static for this isn't inherently bad mainly because the main class isn't going to magically disappear XD

[blazing scarab]

It isnt

But thats global state, still

[wet breach]

main class is global anyways

[blazing scarab]

why so

[wet breach]

what do you mean why so, name a plugin where you can't obtain its main class from another plugin?

[blazing scarab]

Its a regular entry like any other object

[wet breach]

main class of plugins are global anyways, therefore using a static for your main class reference really doesn't make all that much of a difference

the difference however is you shouldn't use the static reference for outside things to get the reference and instead should use DI for such things, but internally doesn't really matter much except in terms of design principles or if the class is designed to be used by other things other then your own plugin. Which case DI is the way to go. Also singletons are not in themselves bad either because sometimes a class needs to ensure that there is only ever one instance of it.

[blazing scarab]

That sounds pointless

Why woukd you ever had a class thst should keep only a single instance? That kills reusability

[brave sparrow]

JavaPlugin#getPlugin

The main plugin class will only ever have 1 instance

In general, there are plenty of valid use cases for a singleton pattern

[blazing scarab]

for example?

[paper viper]

i mean the main plugin class could be a singleton but id argue its better if you use DI

[paper viper]

singleton pattern is very useful

for example

Storing a single GSON instance

or Unsafe

https://github.com/MinecraftMediaLibrary/EzMediaCore/blob/00d13b582fdb31fe4c6d13472f483924dba73c53/api/src/main/java/io/github/pulsebeat02/ezmediacore/utility/unsafe/UnsafeProvider.java#L11

There are certain things where you should only have 1 instance of

but in the scope of plugin instances, id much prefer di