help-development

[dusty sphinx]

install it to your maven repo with buildtools and then include the dependency

[coral sage]

hello, im new to modding mc. Im trying to make a mod for 1.17. Is that supported with spigot?

[dusty sphinx]

of course

[thick gust]

I don't use maven.

[young knoll]

Define mod

[thick gust]

Still didn't figured out how to do it lol

Yo fuck you regulad

Remove that emoji

[dusty sphinx]

get with the program pal everyone else uses a build system for a reason

[young knoll]

Spigot supports server side plugins, which you could call ”mods”

But generally when someone says minecraft mod they don’t mean a plugin

[coral sage]

spigot is server side?

[young knoll]

Yes

[coral sage]

I see

[dusty sphinx]

either or just build the server jar and then include the built jar as a dependency

[young knoll]

If you want client side use fabric or forge

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx How?

@dusty sphinx KEKW XD

[buoyant viper]

i think i went over this with someone and they mad at me

[crisp arch]

mods affect the client side, which mean they can add new game features, like custom items, blocks, and etc

plugins only affect the server, which mean they can only use in-game features

[dusty sphinx]

fuck if i know i only use eclipse to convert projects to maven

[crisp arch]

but plugins are muuuch easier

[buoyant viper]

mods could also be plugins/addons idk

[coral sage]

ok, so is bukkit also server side?

[crisp arch]

so if you can do it with a plugin, then its recommended

[dusty sphinx]

spigot is an extension of bukkit

[young knoll]

Yes

[thick gust]

@buoyant viper Ofc they mad at u cuz u have the wrong profile pic. Use sakurajima.

[crisp arch]

Bukkit & Spigot are serverside ONLY

[buoyant viper]

mod plugin addon all the same thing under a different name

[crisp arch]

Forge & Fabric are both serverside & clientside

[young knoll]

Bukkit, craftbukkit, spigot, paper, etc are all server side

[dusty sphinx]

plugin implies serverside but yeah basically

[buoyant viper]

i was matching with an egirl :(

[coral sage]

oh i see. I thought that these were client side

[thick gust]

@young knoll Bungeecord as well

[buoyant viper]

not necessarily

[thick gust]

@buoyant viper KEKW

[young knoll]

The only client mod loaders I know of for 1.17 are forge and fabric

[buoyant viper]

u can have a client with a plugin system

[dusty sphinx]

i said implies not always means

[crisp arch]

if you are a beginner to this stuff, i recommend using fabric before forge

[lethal thicket]

is importing a .obj model and its .mtl textures into MC possible at all? sorry if this is an annoying noob question, but desperate here

[buoyant viper]

its all down 2 context 😞

[crisp arch]

forge is more powerful, but fabric is easier to setup

[dusty sphinx]

im pretty sure it is but this isnt the server you would ask that in

[young knoll]

No idea, we don’t really excel in that stuff

Try the minecraft commands discord

[dusty sphinx]

yeah

[buoyant viper]

easier to setup bc u gotta do it all by urself 😼

[thick gust]

@crisp arch Fabric kinda sucks I only use it cuz it got better mods. But forge shows you which mods you installed instantly. I didn't figured out how gayric does that yet

@dusty sphinx TELL ME HOW

[jade lodge]

i have spigot 1.18.1 server and when i step into nether portal it doesnt teleport me i only see purple waves

[dusty sphinx]

use modmenu

[buoyant viper]

theres modmenu mod for fabric

[coral sage]

i mean i know how to code with java and have experience with other games making plugins, but i never dabled in minecraft specifically

[dusty sphinx]

import the library

[crisp arch]

fabric has a mod template in github

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx WHICH

[young knoll]

Forge has a mod template you can download too

[dusty sphinx]

the buildtools output

[buoyant viper]

fabric-example-mod?

[sullen marlin]

Is nether enabled in server.properties

[crisp arch]

i think youtube is a pretty good resource

[dusty sphinx]

fabric apis are a lot more abstract

[crisp arch]

yes its a good template

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx Bro i already added it ..

[lethal thicket]

I thought build tools may have assisted

[buoyant viper]

its one plugin entry file and a mixin file its kinda

ehhh

[jade lodge]

there is no server.properties folder in server folder i have spigot.yml and stuff

[sullen marlin]

There is I promise you

Did it say the nether loaded in the startup log

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx I already added the buildtools jar librarryy

[crisp arch]

@coral sage Spigot also has one of the most beautiful javadocs ive ever seen, so you can also use that if you are confused: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/

[thick gust]

@crisp arch No you can't. Error 404: No permission.

[crisp arch]

just get good

[jade lodge]

i cant see the logs i dont have permission for console

[dusty sphinx]

@thick gust well first of all you are using java 1.8 with 1.18

so update to java 17

[jade lodge]

just used multiverse and it can tp me to nether

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx For the love of god if some1 tells me once again i got to update to java 177 i will kms

[jade lodge]

but normal portals doesnt work

[crisp arch]

bro update java 177

[dusty sphinx]

1.18 is built against java 17 lmao

[thick gust]

@crisp arch That's it where do u live?

[young knoll]

Java 177

Damn what can that do

[thick gust]

Fuck you guys

[crisp arch]

Area51, meet you there 👌

[dusty sphinx]

maybe fuckin listen and youd get what you want

[thick gust]

@crisp arch Shaddip

YO I HAVE THE MOST CURRENT FVERSION OF JAVA

[crisp arch]

YOU FINALLY GOT JAVA 177!??!!

[dusty sphinx]

then set it as your jdk in eclipse

[thick gust]

SEEE HERE JAVAAA

17

[crisp arch]

bro hes gaming

[jade lodge]

@sullen marlin can even send ss of my server file there is no properties

[crisp arch]

java 177

[dusty sphinx]

set it as your jdk in eclipse then

[thick gust]

@crisp arch Shaddup dominos guy go plant some coconuts and pluck me bananas

@dusty sphinx HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW?!

[young knoll]

You have access to the server files but not console?

[dusty sphinx]

i dont use eclipse how would i know

[young knoll]

🙃

[dusty sphinx]

look it up

[thick gust]

You fishhead

[jade lodge]

i do have ftp

[thick gust]

It's done

[dusty sphinx]

~~jesus you have to edit an ini to change the jdk in eclipse 💀 ~~

[young knoll]

I mean you don’t

[thick gust]

Jesus it still does not work to fucking fix my errors

[young knoll]

That’s the jdk for eclipse itself, not your project

[dusty sphinx]

import the class then

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx You gotdamn banana plucker stop say that

[heavy perch]

Ahhh welcome to Eclipse

[buoyant viper]

^

[dusty sphinx]

dude literally just find the package the class is in and import it

[young knoll]

Run buildtools with -- remapped and look at the maven info in the 1.17 spigot announcement

[thick gust]

How I change my Java versionon of project?

[sullen marlin]

Also no one is going to help you crash the client

[dusty sphinx]

^

[thick gust]

@young knoll I won't look up a single spigot announcement again

[sullen marlin]

Such plugins will get you banned from spigotmc.org

[thick gust]

@buoyant viper No you wouldnt

@sullen marlin I don't want to publish it lol

[buoyant viper]

at least vsc would grab the right jdk, it doesnt even work with java <11 xd

[thick gust]

@sullen marlin Besides that there are still plugins on Spigot which exactly do that XDDD

[lethal thicket]

LEEEEYEYYYRRRRROOOOOOOOYYYYY!!!!!! JENKINSSS!!!

[heavy perch]

Simplier way I found before on 1.8

Make a 16 row inventory

[young knoll]

Report them

[heavy perch]

#Crashed

[jade lodge]

thats my server folder there is no server.properties

[thick gust]

@young knoll Nah i dont 😄

[dusty sphinx]

intellij users :chad:

[thick gust]

Ankara best city @jade lodge

[jade lodge]

ty

[young knoll]

Oh god there really isn’t

[heavy perch]

Look

[thick gust]

For real now how do I change my Java Version for my project

[young knoll]

And craftbukkit

[dusty sphinx]

gotta love it

[heavy perch]

Eclipse requires a lot of setup

IntelliJ doesn't

WE ALREADY GET THAT

[thick gust]

Fucking IntelliJ Users

Think they aren't subhumans

[heavy perch]

Exactly

[buoyant viper]

tbh in trying to see if i can move my entire java dev into vscode instead of relying on intellij

just as a proof of concept tho

[young knoll]

Oh gos vscode

[buoyant viper]

intellij still on top

[young knoll]

This chat is hurting me more than usual tonight

[dusty sphinx]

vscode is fine its just... not as good? like its more than usable but youll still never catch me giving up intellij

[buoyant viper]

as long as the gradle plugin doesnt shoot itself on me i should be fine

[heavy perch]

Look In HighTech most companies use Jetbrains for some odd reason when it comes to working around Java

[buoyant viper]

since i use gradle... a lot

[lethal thicket]

Visual Studio is the way to go

[buoyant viper]

fuk dat

[thick gust]

For a new project i could only use java 16

[young knoll]

Ah

[lethal thicket]

get it hooked up to Azure DevOps

[young knoll]

Eclipse is uhh

[dusty sphinx]

good job

[young knoll]

Heh...

[lethal thicket]

easy

[heavy perch]

Update eclipse

AND REMOVE THIS WHITE NOISE COLOR

OMGG

[young knoll]

You need a plugin from the marketplace for java 17

[thick gust]

@heavy perch Stfu i dont waste my time doing it

[buoyant viper]

wat

[jade lodge]

how can i see enable_nether command when there is no server.properties. multiverse can tp me but portals only giving me purple waves

[heavy perch]

GO TO PREFERENCES

[magic dome]

Anyone know what event i should cancel to prevent fireballs from being flung by explosions?

[buoyant viper]

if u mean the theme eclipses dark theme is still ass..

[dusty sphinx]

i gotta try out the microsoft toolbox i have never really gotten into it

which is weird because i love windows

[heavy perch]

I use the custom one's

[buoyant viper]

this hurts

[dusty sphinx]

well i dont like windows

i fucking hate windows

but i love it

[thick gust]

Better? @heavy perch

[heavy perch]

REMOVE BUTTOM TABS PLZ

[thick gust]

That does not even make sense @dusty sphinx

[dusty sphinx]

windows is a steaming pile of shit but you gotta love it

[crisp arch]

when i build maven but i get no output uh help https://paste.md-5.net/arobuvulub.xml

[lethal thicket]

You sign up to Azure for free and get access to most things for free even the machine learning studio and some basic VM servers

[heavy perch]

No

[buoyant viper]

do u have the right spigot jar imported

[dusty sphinx]

eh fair

[heavy perch]

Just

USE

GRADLE

GROOVY

[buoyant viper]

use ur mum

[heavy perch]

Fu

[dusty sphinx]

what the hell is java.version

[thick gust]

@buoyant viper Ur mum:

@buoyant viper KEKW

[sullen marlin]

Not helpful

[crisp arch]

oh sh-

[dusty sphinx]

thats not how it works anymore

[heavy perch]

HOW

[buoyant viper]

do maven tasks work with gradle

[sullen marlin]

'I'm having an issue with my Toyota'

[thick gust]

Why can't I install java 17

[dusty sphinx]

your compiler config should look something like this, notice the single tag xml <plugin> <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId> <artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId> <version>3.8.1</version> <configuration> <release>16</release> </configuration> </plugin>

[sullen marlin]

'buy a Honda'

[magic dome]

bumb

[heavy perch]

"I got a Toyota Supra tho"

[buoyant viper]

implying anything could even go wrong on a toyota

[sullen marlin]

It's not helpful in the same way

[dusty sphinx]

those older tags havent worked since java 1.9

[thick gust]

I only find Java 1.8

On offical javala wabsait

[young knoll]

What about a Hy-un-dai

[coral sage]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/org/spigotmc/spigot-api/1.18.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT/ do i have to download every file here?

[buoyant viper]

those shits will only die long after ur gone

[dusty sphinx]

you need to install a marketplace plugin for eclipse to use a jdk newer than 16

[lethal thicket]

looks like an issue with the env vars, tried jar fix? fix's shit like this when I reinstal java all the time https://johann.loefflmann.net/en/software/jarfix/

[heavy perch]

Idk

[buoyant viper]

my family is a hyundai shill, theyre pretty neat

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx I am using jdk 17 for eclipse.

[buoyant viper]

very basic cars tho

[dusty sphinx]

try adoptium.org

oh good job then

[heavy perch]

Hyundai is good

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx Adopt ur mum

[buoyant viper]

yeah

[heavy perch]

Offtopic though

[buoyant viper]

rarely ever have issues with them lol

yeah

[heavy perch]

lets move that talk to general

[buoyant viper]

oh im not a car person

[dusty sphinx]

how the fuck did this turn into car talk

[crisp arch]

works, thanks

[thick gust]

xDD

[buoyant viper]

md referenced toyota and honda

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx Now what if i have jdk 17

[dusty sphinx]

yeah i know its just funny

[crisp arch]

i think md_5 mentioned soemthing about a toyota and a honda

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx There is no Java 17 available in eclipse when i create new java project and on official javala wabseit i just have 1.8 option to download

[dusty sphinx]

yeah just import the class now your libraries should load

[dusty sphinx]

dude for the last damn time i cant help you with that i dont know eclipse and i dont use oracle jres

[young knoll]

You need a plugin

[thick gust]

I already had jdk 17 when I had the problem like 20 minutes ago

I dont need a plugin shaddup xD

[young knoll]

Unless there has been a new beta for eclipse recently

Eclipse does not support java 17 yet

[thick gust]

@dusty sphinx fuck u then 😄

[crisp arch]

wait no something broke again

why is it saying ant

Executing pre-compile tasks...
Loading Ant configuration...
Running Ant tasks...
Executing post-compile tasks...
Loading Ant configuration...
Running Ant tasks...

im so confused

[magic dome]

Yo I know you guys are like deep in a discusstion but anyone know the event that triggers when a projectiles vector is changed by an explosion????

[dusty sphinx]

are you using intellij

[crisp arch]

yes

[dusty sphinx]

did you hit this button

[jade lodge]

anyone help me??

[crisp arch]

here let me show you

[thick gust]

sadge

[dusty sphinx]

this doesnt run your maven build by default it compiles the project with whatever intellij does

[thick gust]

lol regulad blocked me hahahahah xD

[dusty sphinx]

good you made a maven run configuration

[waxen plinth]

I don't know for sure but EntityDamageByEntityEvent might be fired

[dusty sphinx]

now hit the run or debug commands next to it to use it

[spare marsh]

Calculating if a block is inside a certain region for every region created, Is that thread safe? Should I run it Async? It’s just checking the comparing blocks x y and z then comparing for every block in the region

[crisp arch]

i used the intellij Minecraft Development plugin but i guess i should know better, that plugin is full of bugs and inaccuracies

[dusty sphinx]

its not great with bare spigot

its not much better with paper but eh

[crisp arch]

yea, i should make my own template

[dusty sphinx]

i did months ago

[crisp arch]

anyways, i click build and it just says

Executing pre-compile tasks...
Loading Ant configuration...
Running Ant tasks...
Executing post-compile tasks...
Loading Ant configuration...
Running Ant tasks...

and then it ends

[dusty sphinx]

which button are you pressing

you need to hit the play button not the hammer

[crisp arch]

oh sh-

the brain isnt working today

[pastel stag]

if theres anyone here that's familiar w/ pulling a large set of data from an sql server on ChunkLoadEvent into memory and then using that data then flushing it to the SQL server on ChunkUnloadEvent or onDisable can that person provide me with some guidance on how i would have to adapt my plugin to do this instead of just always pulling that data from the database only when its needed

[heavy perch]

Async mostly but must be careful Ig

[pastel stag]

i just dont know what the methods i need to use to call stuff into memory are, or how to differently handle that data than just pulling it from the database live

[heavy perch]

Depends

r u talking about pulling data from SQL?

[pastel stag]

this is how i'm doing things currently https://gitlab.com/thomaslegan13/watchblock/-/blob/master/src/com/n0grief/WatchBlock/EventHandler/SQLLogger.java

[heavy perch]

GitLab I like

[pastel stag]

but for slower databases or ones not local it can cause issues because of the slower response time, i feel like storing the data with a chunk identifier and on chunk load pulling all the relevant sql data for that chunk and working with it in memory then flushing it back on chunk unload may be better

[heavy perch]

Every request you make, even if its prepared statement, you really should use Async

[pastel stag]

i was told async doesnt work with preparedstatements

[heavy perch]

Running SQL requests on main thread could take unreasonable amount of memory

It does depends on the case

[buoyant viper]

gitlab

kinda wanna switch to that

[young knoll]

Not sure memory is the issue

[heavy perch]

mostly memory for me

I run a lot of things on main thread

[young knoll]

It’s gonna take the same memory either way

[heavy perch]

shouldn't be data that asks for more memory on the way

[young knoll]

The problem is that it’s a blocking operation

[pastel stag]

there are certain cases where i cant and ofc by chance they happen to be the more intensive ones, like creeper explosion sql database has to query 20+ block coordinates all at once, on a local database no problem but i have some users that use remote hosted databases and their whole server freezes for a sec every explosion while the plugin fetches and compares all the data

[young knoll]

Yeah don’t do that

[pastel stag]

but the sql operation HAS to happen BEFORE the creeper explosion happens for obvious reasons

[heavy perch]

yeah

don't

[young knoll]

Async get and cache

[heavy perch]

yep

either that or make a runnable delay that will input that into async.

Like

[buoyant viper]

just turn off entity explosion block damage 😎

[heavy perch]

Pro

[pastel stag]

well the creeper explosion block damage is configurable in my plugin based on if the blocks are owned by people

@buoyant viper

[young knoll]

Yeah you need that data already in memory

[heavy perch]

yep

[young knoll]

Otherwise you have to hang the server while you fetch it

[pastel stag]

anyways the getting and caching of the data into memory is what i have no clue HOW to do

[heavy perch]

which would lag the sh! out of the server

[buoyant viper]

was jus jokin

[pastel stag]

im aware thats the solution thats why im asking if anyone can provide me with some docs as to how to utilize it 🙂

[heavy perch]

1. save it up into memory by containers.
2. use YML which should never be used in this world at all.
3. just pull that data on entity prime.

[primal kite]

coming in late an seeing something about sql and slowness. is it slow to write to your sql server which is causing "lag"

[sullen marlin]

youre making a region plugin?

just store it all in ram all the time

it is not much data

[pastel stag]

its a per-block protection plugin

[heavy perch]

I recommend depending on WorldEdit to work with cubids

[sullen marlin]

does it really have to be per individual block

[young knoll]

Are SQL writes blocking too? I assume yes

[sullen marlin]

people arent gonna want to claim each block individually

cuboid regions are much more normal

[pastel stag]

yeah... this is a replacement plugin designed to mimic the exact behavior of a deprecated one

[young knoll]

Yes

[pastel stag]

yes

[heavy perch]

as md said

store it on memory

and use regions too

[primal kite]

Slow sql = right to local server file. Runnable updates SQL from FILE instead of blocking

[pastel stag]

storing it in memory is exactly what i want to do, i was just asking if anyone had the relevant documentation on how to do that and then how to handle that data as im sure its probably slightly different than handling it directly w/ the database

[heavy perch]

Create modules

Worst case scenario ask for help

[young knoll]

You can just write async

[spare marsh]

Calculating if a block is inside a certain region for every region created, I’d that thread safe? Should I run it Async? It’s just checking the comparing blocks x y and z then comparing for every block in the region

[heavy perch]

Caching and locations works different

[spare marsh]

It’s getting the blocks x y z

[heavy perch]

Think that region stores that location already inside a list for example

[pastel stag]

at the moment the only people who are actually having issues w/ the current way the operations happen are ones that are using sql databases that are not hosted on the same machine or local network as the server runs on but id like to implement something specifically for those use-cases just incase

[young knoll]

You probably don’t want to do that async

[heavy perch]

it just streams over it

[young knoll]

Because then you need to wait for the result

[spare marsh]

The Region doesn’t save the blocks

[sullen marlin]

even the naive: for (region r : allRegions) inRegion(block, region) is plenty fast

[young knoll]

And generally you don’t want to wait when doing block protection

[spare marsh]

It just saves the corners

[sullen marlin]

you only gotta compare 2 corners

[heavy perch]

This isn't too bad

Ig

[spare marsh]

Yes but I use the other 2 to check if 2 regions will overlap

[primal kite]

Agreed, but in some cases i found treating a file as a "transactional sql" sometimes worked better.

[spare marsh]

If any of the 4 corner block is inside a region the it is overlapping

[heavy perch]

I see what you say

[spare marsh]

Alright would do this thank you

[sullen marlin]

2 corner

you only need two corners

the min(x,y,z) corner and the max(x,y,z) corner

[heavy perch]

Tru

[pastel stag]

@heavy perch sql is more than fast enough on its own to do what im doing on a playerbase up to like 20 or so players simultaneously w/o any noticeable performance loss but after that it DOES become an issue thats the only reason i'm wanting to figure this out now

[heavy perch]

Just do what MD says

[spare marsh]

How would I then check if two regions overlap without having to check for every block again? I mean yes I use only two corners but the other 2 I use to make it faster to check if the region overlaps

[heavy perch]

I think you already know the answer

but simply id use streams to check

[sullen marlin]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/best-way-to-check-if-2-cuboid-are-conjoined.356873/

[young knoll]

Dog

[quaint mantle]

dog

[spare marsh]

Lol Haha nice Dog

Thank you

[primal kite]

no, the image is actually reversed. it is goD

[spare marsh]

Lmao

[spare marsh]

Alright thank you. And we’ll it is the same Isn’t it? Using 4 corners?

[sullen marlin]

2 corners per region

[spare marsh]

Ohh I get you now yeah my bad haha thank you I appreciate it.

[quaint mantle]

Anyone know the maven dependency to make a 1.3.1 plugin?

Experimenting with very early versions of mc

[remote gazelle]

quick question
what happens if i don't unrgister event listener instance?
does it auto unregister it?
when garbage collected?

[primal kite]

why would you unregister? do you only want to listen for it during certain times on your server?

[young knoll]

You generally don’t need to unregister

[remote gazelle]

well i need to

nvm solved by other way

[young knoll]

Then just do it?

[remote gazelle]

well i didn't know when it is grabaged

but nvm i just came up with idea that doesn't need to unregister

[young knoll]

As long as you unregister it it should be eligible for GC

[heavy perch]

Unregistering an event usually doesn't matter but only if you need the event to work at certain times

[primal kite]

if (eventlistener.isActive()) {do something} else {don't do it}

[young knoll]

Yeah you can do that too

It’s not going to be a huge performance difference

[primal kite]

unless the event is onServerTick() or something like that

[stone sinew]

HandlerList.unregisterAll(JavaPlugin)

[sullen marlin]

its unregistered when your plugin is disabled

[primal kite]

ouch, you can only unregister the entire plugin?

[young knoll]

No

[stone sinew]

You can unregister the listener.

[young knoll]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/HandlerList.html

[quaint mantle]

Still trying to find the maven dependency for 1.3.1 👀 god old stuff is hard to find

[young knoll]

There are a few unregister methods

[young knoll]

API or NMS?

[quaint mantle]

apu

api*

[young knoll]

I think that still exists?

I’m actually not sure

[heavy perch]

GL

[quaint mantle]

yea

lol

[heavy perch]

I think they closed therr repos?

I am not sure lol

[sullen marlin]

if you have the server jar just use that

[quaint mantle]

Oh ok

yea

[sullen marlin]

if you dont have the server jar, then why do you need 1.3

[quaint mantle]

why didnt i think of that

[young knoll]

repo.bukkit.org is dead

[quaint mantle]

lol

[quaint mantle]

life saver 😂

[heavy perch]

bukkit in general is dead

[remote gazelle]

um i know that

[stone sinew]

You said you needed to unregister the listener... so there you go lol

[young knoll]

Alright here’s a question that’s hard to word

Does something like the guava cache exist where the timeout can be different for each entry

[primal kite]

quava cache? are you talking a different garbage collection for different memory sections?

[quaint mantle]

I have somehow made a 1.3.1 plugin work

[young knoll]

Guava cache is a map implementation that support automatic expiry of entries

[quaint mantle]

Time to write an entire core for 1.3.1

[young knoll]

Among other things

[quaint mantle]

:)

[primal kite]

so a hashMap with an expiration date?

[young knoll]

Pretty much

[primal kite]

never heard of it in MC but can be implemented via event listeners for the "entry" being created and a runnable to check the hashMap to .remove().

[waxen plinth]

I mean you don't really need that

It's very easy to wrap a HashMap<K, Box<V>> where the box has an expiration date

When attempting to get from the map, you see if the box has expired

[young knoll]

Doesn’t solve my problem, because it stays in the map

[waxen plinth]

The only downside is that they will hang around in memory until someone attempts to retrieve them

Yeah I guess

[young knoll]

Yeah that’s the issue

It’s for a cooldown and I don’t want entries to just sit there

[waxen plinth]

Oh

I've done that before

Just schedule it to be removed when you insert it

And use remove(K, V), not remove(K)

That way it will only remove if the value has not changed

I guess with cooldowns that wouldn't be an issue anyways, since you can't use an ability while it's on cooldown

[young knoll]

Define schedule

Just a runTaskLater?

[waxen plinth]

Yeah basically

Either that or you make your own "garbage collection" for the cache, with the box approach

Where you periodically check all the values to see if they have expired

[young knoll]

Yeah that would probably be better

[waxen plinth]

It really shouldn't be a problem unless you have thousands of players on one server, which I really doubt you would

[young knoll]

Scheduling a bunch of delayed tasks doesn’t seem ideal

Not just players technically, any entity

[waxen plinth]

Hm

[young knoll]

Realistically it will mostly be players though

[waxen plinth]

Well why is the delayed task an issue

It's really not that expensive

[sullen marlin]

Iterate and delete all expired every now and again

[young knoll]

Yeah I’ll do that

I can probably run that async as well

[waxen plinth]

Alternatively just remove on PlayerQuitEvent, EntityDeathEvent, and ChunkUnloadEvent (all entities in the chunk should be removed)

Should be good enough™️

[young knoll]

True, but the chunk may get reloaded

[waxen plinth]

Are the cooldowns ever more than like 30 seconds?

I mean, honestly what's stopping you from using PDC here

[young knoll]

True

[young knoll]

That’s up to the user

[waxen plinth]

Hm

I mean we can wring our hands about it all day but I really don't think it's going to make a difference how you choose to implement it

[young knoll]

Yeah, it’s very niche anyway

Non-fixed length cooldowns

For anything fixed length I’ll still using the cache

[quaint mantle]

hi hotties, idk what im doing wrong

trying to update my core plugin to 1.18, but im getting all errors

as in evreything bukkit errors lol

[sullen marlin]

Did you read the release thread

[quaint mantle]

yes

i dont use BuildTools*

[sullen marlin]

So you saw you can't depend on the server jar

[quaint mantle]

oh what

i only scanned it

[pastel stag]

so you didn't read it

🤔

[quaint mantle]

💀

[young knoll]

I don’t use buildtools

Ohboy

[quaint mantle]

💀

ok thanks i see what i need now bye

[pastel stag]

The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.```

@vale ginkgo

[robust forge]

Hi does ProjectileHitEvent get called if arrow hits a block that it doesnt collide with? Grass weeping or twisting vines for example. If not how could I detect it?

[waxen plinth]

Pretty sure it doesn't

You would need to check every tick or something

[robust forge]

I already tried that

But it doesnt work 100% of the time

Only like 30%

Because sometimes the arrow travels too fast

So it skips the block

[quaint mantle]

then try 0.5 tick

[waxen plinth]

Then you would have to interpolate its motion between the ticks

[waxen plinth]

That's not how this works lol

[quaint mantle]

🙂

[robust forge]

And how would I do that?

[split panther]

get position on current tick and previous tick
create a linear equation and check whether if it intersect a hitbox

[mighty sparrow]

Hello, I'm making my first plugin...

Color text work but I'm getting those weird characters, why ?

Screenshot:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840393258554490902/920925403110072370/unknown.png

Code:

public class Events implements Listener {
    final String SOUHAIT = "Amuses-toi bien sur §c§l§o§uQueebies World !";
    Player player;
    
    @EventHandler
    public void onPlayerJoin(PlayerJoinEvent e){
        player = e.getPlayer();
        player.sendMessage(Bienvenue(player.getName()));
        player.sendMessage(SOUHAIT);
    }
    String Bienvenue(String name){
        return "§l§oBienvenue §o§2" + name + " §f!";
    }
}

[robust forge]

Use ChatColor

[mighty sparrow]

its gonna make the code long afff only for a little string. Is there another way

[robust forge]

For example player#sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + ”This is a test”);

[mighty sparrow]

There is no other ways?

[stone sinew]

// player.sendMessage(colorize("&6Your name is &e"+player.getName()));

public String colorize(String s) { // Does not use hex colors.
    return ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', s);
}

[mighty sparrow]

gonna create a class tool.java and use this

thanks @stone sinew

very appreciated

[stone sinew]

👍

[primal kite]

ok, this is about the 4 time in the last week and a half that i have done this. if anyone needs help testing a plugin with an actual player online let me know via a PM/DM/{what ever discord wants to call it}

@eternal night I see you too

[eternal night]

xD

surprised people don't just have an alt

or somthing

[primal kite]

some people don't. i have many so i am not worried about it

[chrome beacon]

You could also just use offline mode for testing

[primal kite]

you could but i am not going to subject somebody to that without knowing ALL of the issues behind that.

[chrome beacon]

Not really an issue on a local server

[eternal night]

still waiting for a mojang mapped client project that you can just run

or finding it xD maybe it exists

[chrome beacon]

Vanilla gradle I think it's called

Smth like that

[eternal night]

the sponge project ?

[chrome beacon]

Otherwise just run forge or fabric with empty mods

[eternal night]

oh shit

yea

the disadvantage of running around in the server all day xD

no clue about clients

[tidal hollow]

How can I make a blaze immune to projectile damage?

[somber hull]

cancel the event

How do i set the drops for a block?

        List<ItemStack> drops = (List<ItemStack>) block.getDrops();
        
        for (ItemStack i : drops) {
            drops.remove(i);
            plr.sendMessage(i.getType().name());
        }
        drops.add(new SpawnerFactory(plugin, spawner.getSpawnedType()).createSpawner());

i have this rn

[chrome beacon]

Cancel ProjectileHitEvent

[somber hull]

and the block drops are set to drop a spawner

[somber hull]

I dont think it makes a copy

List<ItemStack> drops = (List<ItemStack>) block.getDrops();

i then modify that list

Ok, so i think it does create a copy.

How do i set the drops??

[young knoll]

Use the blockdropitemevent

You can remove the old drops and then spawn your new drops

Or just change the type of the old drops

[quaint mantle]

online mode = false have no issue other than clients joining, it just disable the authlib i think

[somber hull]

how would i get the block from the block break event?

[tardy delta]

event.getBlock()

or getBreakedBlock() idk

[somber hull]

Oh sick

thanks

that helps a lot

[somber hull]

does modifying getItems change the drops?

Also the drops are item entitys, how do you convert a item into a item entity?

[young knoll]

Removing yes

You cannot add to it

[young knoll]

World.dropItem

[somber hull]

oof, well then the blockbreakevent worked fine

cause spawners dont drop items anyway

the issue was that it might not work with telepathy enchants

so i was trying to set the drops of a block

[echo saddle]

is spigot patched for the latest CVE?

[eternal night]

?exploit

aw

md used a fun command

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-security-releases-—-1-8-8–1-18.537204/

[quaint mantle]

?log4j

?log4j

[undone axle]

Find information about the log4j2 security patches here: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spigot-security-releases-—-1-8-8–1-18.537204/

[eternal night]

ah yes xD

thanks

[echo saddle]

more specifically, is it 2.16.0?

[quaint mantle]

read the last post down the thread

[smoky oak]

there is a new log4j vulnerability

[quaint mantle]

read the last post down the thread

[smoky oak]

just rerun buildtools i guess

[robust forge]

Could you help me with creating the linear equation? I havent made anything like this before with Java / Spigot

[smoky finch]

How do I keep an item frame from falling when it's not attached to a block?

[crimson terrace]

maybe its the entityDamageEvent or something like that. Itemframes are entities after all. maybe the entityDeathEvent?

could cancel it

not sure on it tho

[smoky finch]

You can't cancel EntityDeathEvent

[torn shuttle]

68 lines, 58 sonarlint warnings. This is what we call programming in style

[quaint mantle]

Hello
Why when i try to spawn a bunch of items with nms, they get despawned ?

[crimson terrace]

but you can spawn an entity you set to be the exact same as the dying entity

[feral wing]

hi guys, i'm trying to code something to be able to click on a player but with distance.. so my idea was to right click in the air with a interact event and shoot a projectile, but i need to make the projectile invisible and that seems impossible, do you guys have any idea how to do that ?

[smoky finch]

Does that even have anything to do with the issue?

[buoyant viper]

i think bukkit has a raycast method u can use instead

i just dont know where it is

[feral wing]

oh ok

i will check that thank you

[quaint mantle]

i know how to change tablist header and footer with nms
but how to change the player order in tablist ?

[drowsy helm]

it goes by the game profile name

[tacit drift]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/hitboxes-and-ray-tracing.174358/

see RayTrace Class

[torn shuttle]

does anyone have a really good sqlite guide, I can generally have sqlite functional but I don't like my implementation and feel like there has to be an easier way

[tacit drift]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-sqlite.56847/

but, MySQL would be easier

[torn shuttle]

I'm happy with sqlite for now

hm this is already fairly similar to how I currently do it

[tacit drift]

if it aint broke dont fix it

[torn shuttle]

it ain't broke but it is also a pain to extend functionality for

[torn shuttle]

man

adding columns is actually not very fun huh

looks like sqlite doesn't natively have a way to add a column if one doesn't exist so you just shotgun tables into it and handle errors when it turns out they existed

a bit dumb

seemingly the only way to really do it almost 100% natively would be to version the table itself and then add based on the version which is also not amazing

[smoky oak]

can't you attempt to access a table to see if it exists, before 'shotgunning' a new one into it?

*column

[torn shuttle]

not directly with a statement, it requires a workaround

[smoky oak]

try{access} catch(...){interject}, wouldnt that work?

[torn shuttle]

the issue is you can't do it using sql statements even though IF NOT EXISTS exists for checking if a table exists

which is just annoying

I need to start generating the tables modularly because the more things I track the more torturous the code gets

[smoky oak]

can't claim i know how to do stuff modularly

most of the things i do can be hardcoded

[torn shuttle]

stuff I do can be hardcoded... today

[tacit drift]

MySQL

[torn shuttle]

I'm not going to switch to mysql just because you put the letters in bold

not to mention mysql afaik has exactly the same issue

[smoky oak]

I found that luckily for my purposes i can use player PDC

[torn shuttle]

sqlite is useful, but I find the statements to not be very fun to work with and it is not easily extensible once you already have data going

well, by default anyway

I'm sure you can construct something around it to make it easier to deal with

[smoky oak]

to be fair it will be a nightmare to get the data from the PDC in a readable format

choose depending on situation i guess

[torn shuttle]

sqlite is easy enough to explore with the right software

also has the advantage of being very easy to backup

and restore

and move

[tardy delta]

i'd just use pdc for small data

[smoky oak]

i dont

[tardy delta]

what are you saving?

[smoky oak]

eh well

i have an item based magic system in the works

im storing the number of items (as int) each player has used

[tardy delta]

in the player?

[smoky oak]

ye

i was told pdc is fairly stable even over versions

[tardy delta]

mwoa yea

thats not bad

[smoky oak]

and then like twenty or so extra variables

like effect time for long lasting effects

since this isnt something admins need to see it's not too big an issue either

it can be checked per player, which is enough

[tardy delta]

minecraft effects?

[smoky oak]

no

custom ones

thats why i need to store effect time

[tardy delta]

ah that would be really simple otherwise

is there no way to make a custom effect by extending the effect class or something?

[smoky oak]

oh I haven't tried that

might be worth looking into

[tardy delta]

probably you might be using nms

goes brr

[smoky oak]

lets not remap my spigot api

[quaint mantle]

Exists a event

[smoky oak]

yes

gotta be more specific than that

[quaint mantle]

Is there an event when a cactus is broken by a block?

[frosty tinsel]

I think it's BlockPhysics

[smoky oak]

its probably block break, physics update, or block place

[frosty tinsel]

Or something similar

[smoky oak]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/cactus-breaking.216315/

[mortal hare]

quick question

does InventoryClickEvent .getCursor() returns cursor after inventory handling (e.g picking up the same type to cursor) or before the calculations?

[tall dragon]

when an event is Cancellable its pretty much always before

[mortal hare]

well i have no choice than to cancel the event

which sucks

[tall dragon]

what are you trying to achieve

[mortal hare]

since i don't need to resend the inventory packet

im trying to recalculate pickup all cursor with some exceptions

basically im simulating pickup cursor action, but i don't pickup all the items which are in specific array (GUI)

[opal gazelle]

Hi, could someone tell me if it's possible to get the current join and quit message outside of the quit and join event?

[oblique lantern]

hey, im trying to add some aliases for some commands, and i would like someone to answer this question
can i make an alias for commands with arguments? like, if i have a command that is /command one and another one that is /command two and i want those aliases to be something like /1 and /2

is that possible to do? with the options available on the commands.yml file

[tall dragon]

im afraid not with the options in commands.yml

[zealous osprey]

Is there a way to check if an item has been destroyed with an even ?
I've tried #EntityDamageEvent and #EntityDeathEvent
both dont seem to work

So like throughing an item into fire or so would trigger it ?

[tall dragon]

ItemDespawnEvent maybe?

[oblique lantern]

ok, thanks either wya

way*

[tall dragon]

you could of course make another command, and just make it run the one with args

[zealous osprey]

doesnt trigger when the item just gets destroyed

[tall dragon]

well if you throw an item into fire EntityCombustEvent will be called

[zealous osprey]

It was an example, I'd rather have it be called whenever an item is destoryed

But I might need to use multiple events to get that result

[tall dragon]

idk what u have tried but EntityDeathEvent should work for that

[zealous osprey]

I'll try again, but it didnt work the first time around

Oh might not have worked cause I have an error in my code preventing the plugin even being loaded, well damn

[tall dragon]

:D

[zealous osprey]

EntityDamage works, EntityDeathEvent aparently not, damn

[tall dragon]

EntityDeath only works for living entities then

[zealous osprey]

makes sense since the only enity it returns is a living instance

[tall dragon]

then ur gonna have to use multiple events to get the desired outcome

[zealous osprey]

think so aswell

[quaint mantle]

Is it possible to disable block collisions for a specific entity? (I'd also extend some nms Entity if needed)

[mortal hare]

it should be possible, but not for player connection driven player entity via Pathgoals but im not sure how to utilise those to achieve what you need

i'd rather use packet entity, since those do not tick, and could clip through the walls just fine.

[quaint mantle]

I want some hostile ArmorStands to be able to go through walls and control their movement via setVelocity

[eternal night]

Entities have a noClip or noPhysics option

Well their NMS internal representation does

[quaint mantle]

Already set the noClip value to true, but that had no effect

[tardy flame]

How to change NMS to work with java 8?

^^ 1.18

[quaint mantle]

What do you mean by that?

NMS Code works just fine if your plugin is compiled by Java 8 🤔

[tardy flame]

Wait a second i will post the error

[tardy flame]

cannot access net.minecraft.world.damagesource.DamageSource
  bad class file: C:\Users\opkar\.m2\repository\org\spigotmc\spigot\1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT\spigot-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-remapped-mojang.jar(net/minecraft/world/damagesource/DamageSource.class)
    class file has wrong version 60.0, should be 52.0
    Please remove or make sure it appears in the correct subdirectory of the classpath.
[INFO] 1 error
[INFO] -------------------------------------------------------------

[eternal oxide]

1.18 requires java 17

[tardy flame]

So you can't compile it with java 8?

[eternal oxide]

it will not run on a lower java version

[tall dragon]

if you really want. u can just compile the 1.18 server on java 8

and it will work :D

[quaint mantle]

You can compile it to Java 8, but you still have to use Java 17

[tardy flame]

Okay, how I can do it?

[chrome beacon]

You can't with NMS

Compile it with Java 17

[quaint mantle]

Are we talking about a plugin, or the server itself?

[west pecan]

just install a newer java 5head, java 8 is hold af and slower

[tall dragon]

^

[tardy flame]

Plugin

[tardy flame]

-

Something like this?

    <properties>
        <project.build.sourceEncoding>UTF-8</project.build.sourceEncoding>
        <java.version>17</java.version>
    </properties>

    <build>
        <plugins>
            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-compiler-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.8.1</version>
                <configuration>
                    <target>1.8</target>
                    <source>1.8</source>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>
...

in pom.xml

[tall dragon]

uhh, no

you just need to install a never java

your plugin can still compile on java 8

if you want

[tardy flame]

I have java 16 and 17 downloaded

[tall dragon]

open cmd, type java -version

what does it output

[tardy flame]

Java version: 1.8.0_312, vendor: Amazon.com Inc., runtime: C:\Users\opkar.jdks\corretto-1.8.0_312\jre

[tall dragon]

ye

[tardy flame]

Bc I use it it project

[quaint mantle]

If you're using IntelliJ with maven, go inside your pom.xml and edit source and target

<source>8</source>
<target>8</target>

After this, go inside your Project Structure menu, go to Project and set Project Language Level to 8 (Also select a Java 17 JDK, otherwise you still won't be able to compile)

After that you should be fine

[tall dragon]

if you want to run a 1.18 server im pretty sure you're going to set your environment variable path to the correct java version

[tardy flame]

Yeah, I can't on java 1.8

[quaint mantle]

Or just use the full path everytime 🤔

[west pecan]

you can just launch the server with the path to java 17 dont need to change env vars

[tall dragon]

yea or that

[tardy flame]

omg.

I made it before the other way round that I set jdk to 8 and java version 17 ._.

But thanks anyways 😛

💋

[fierce quail]

I have an Entity and i want it to always look at the player. The problem is, i want it to be individual for every player, so the player sees the entity facing himself. Is there any easy way and if so or not, how can i do that without using libraries?

[zealous osprey]

You want an entity to look at a player, but from the view of every player it is looking at them ?
So like we have 2 players, and both see that the entity is facing the player ?

[fierce quail]

Yes

[zealous osprey]

I think you'll need Protocollib to send the rotation info of the head individually to each player

[lunar schooner]

Step 1 out of i dont know how many in writing a Rust wrapper for all Bukkit APIs, I have automatically generated a JSON structure for a jarfile containing all methods and such 😂

[grim ice]

do you all think a auction house plugin would be hard

[tall dragon]

shoulnt be too difficult

[fervent panther]

Is it possible to have one player see blocks but gave them not be there for another player

[tall dragon]

yes

with packets

[fervent panther]

How?

[tall dragon]

that is a question for someone else haha

maybe @ivory sleet can be of assistance

[lunar schooner]

An example of the produced json: https://paste.md-5.net/rofatuhiyo.json 😂

[tall dragon]

i wish you lots of luck & patience for this project :)

[lunar schooner]

Halfway there luckily :"D

Now it's time to build a Rust program that takes this JSON, and emits JNI wrappers

[young knoll]

You don’t need packets

Player#sendBlockChange

[grim ice]

How do you guys think i can make an auction house plugin

like basic ideas,,etc

to store the items andstuff

[young knoll]

You probably want a database

[grim ice]

do i use sql or smth

[tall dragon]

you could

could also use redis

[young knoll]

SQLite is a good option

[tall dragon]

whats the benefit of using SQlite over normal storage

[young knoll]

Databases are designed for this

Flat file not so much

[snow compass]

is it some reason to use §x§5§5§F§7§5§5 ? instead something some are both human readable and easy to type?

[young knoll]

That’s the default spigot format

But you can always implement your own

Or use adventure or whatever

[snow compass]

I know it is spigot default 🙂 but the question are way?

I modify the method to accept other hex format (no issue), I mean Spigot self not use it when parse the hex (use mincraft format/standard hex format).

Is only used when it go thru the char´s in the for loop and never use §

[chrome beacon]

That symbole was chosen a long time ago

[crisp arch]

Failure to find org.spigotmc:minecraft-server:txt:maps-mojang:1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/ was cached in the local repository, resolution will not be reattempted until the update interval of spigotmc-repo has elapsed or updates are forced

Im building with md_5's mojang -> spigot remapper but i get this error

[young knoll]

Minecraft does indeed use the selection sign symbol

Not so much anymore though

[snow compass]

yeah but is no point use §x§5§5§F§7§5§5 when mincraft self accept #hex. I accept first § but the rest are not needed at all.

[chrome beacon]

It does?

You sure

[snow compass]

He could do like §xhex

[snow compass]

yes I copy TextComponent and test my self

[karmic mural]

Could someone help me understand what this error means? I thought I understood but it seems I was wrong...

 in 'string', line 41, column 6:
      Use: true```

The weirdest bit here is that it's pointing me to a piece of code that I haven't changed in ages. (not included in what I sent here, I just thought I should mention that)

[snow compass]

this is orginal method, it jump over the § and only use the numbers so it parse #55F755

            if (c == 'x' && i + 12 < message.length()) {
                    StringBuilder hex = new StringBuilder("#");
                    for (int j = 0; j < 6; j++) {
                        System.out.println("hextest " + message.charAt(i * (j)));
                        hex.append(message.charAt(i + 2 + (j * 2)));
                    }
                    try {
                        format = ChatColor.of(hex.toString());
                    } catch (IllegalArgumentException ex) {
                        format = null;
                    }

                    i += 12;

[young knoll]

Run your yml through an online parser

Yes ChatColor.of is designed to parse #rrggbb

That’s what it’s for

[snow compass]

yes but I mean the method self 🙂 You don´t need make it so complicated. I can easy remade it s you only need type §x55F755. thats way I ask way made it like it done here?

[karmic mural]

Oh... I figured it out lol.

[crisp arch]

bump

[chrome beacon]

Have you run BuildTools

[crisp arch]

yes

[crisp arch]

im trying to run md_5 specialsource, because i used spigot remapped mojang

[lunar schooner]

Kind of curious, why does Bukkit rely on Eclipse Aether, an already archived project, not updated in a while?

[coarse moon]

hey everyone, I'm trying to create my first big plugin and I want to allow some bungee cord features (like staffchat, sending to servers, /hub, /report, etc.). do I need to create an entirely separate bungeecord plugin or is there a way I have this functionality with a spigot plugin? i've never used bungeecord

[chrome beacon]

You need a Bungeecord plugin for most stuff. Basic things can be done without

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

Read this ^

[crisp arch]

i used spigot remapped mojang, now how do i remap it back?

[coarse moon]

okay, thank you!

[chrome beacon]

The maven plugin will take care of it

[coarse moon]

do you know when i would register a bungeecord command over a spigot command? like what's the difference?

[chrome beacon]

Register where you need it

Should it be on the server or on the proxy

It's up to you

[crisp arch]

nope i get an error

md_5 says i need to remap

[coarse moon]

alright, thank you

[grim ice]

Anyone has an idea of what database should I use to store my Player auctions? im making a plugin

[crisp arch]

MySQL

or if you dont want to host an sql server, SQLite3 works

[grim ice]

ok thanks ill do that

[crisp arch]

the internet is a good place to start ;)

[olive lance]

Is there a link anywhere on supplying placeholders with PlaceholderAPI? Their tutorial only shows how to use default ones

[chrome beacon]

It's the same for every placeholder

[olive lance]

Im trying to make my own not use the vault_rank and player_name default ones

but i think i found something

[quaint mantle]

What could be a reason why Entity#teleport literally does nothing at all?

[quaint mantle]

Something cancels the teleport event

[quaint mantle]

And what if there's no plugin installed with any TeleportEvents? 😅

[golden turret]

if i store a player variable somewhere and the player disconnects, if i try to send a message to him, it will simply do nothing, right?

[tardy flame]

Don't store player object

[quaint mantle]

it may throw illegal state exception

[olive lance]

i will reutrn a nullpointerexception

mb

well not return

but ya

just stop storing the player when he disconnects

[ivory sleet]

From what I know, the implementation will turn some of its internal variables to null

[chilly haven]

How do i get the player who was hit by a projectile

[ivory sleet]

Which in other words mean that the object is no longer 100% safe to use

Storing it may also implement a memory leak

[golden turret]

i think it is saying that nothing will happens

[ivory sleet]

Provided that ::getHandle does not return null

[olive lance]

what exactly do we mean by storing a player variable is it just what it sounds like

[ivory sleet]

I mean like the instance

[quaint mantle]

Keeping a reference on player w field or smth

[ivory sleet]

Yuh, any strong reference basically

[olive lance]

ok so ive been doing that a ton but stopping when disconnected bc when i go to reference players i dont want to parse the uuid of every one wouldnt that hinder performance or no?

[ivory sleet]

Performance as no memory leaks or speed?

[olive lance]

what kind of memory leak would arise i am genuinely not educated

[ivory sleet]

Well a memory leak just means there’s an object which no longer is strongly referenced or generally has no real reason to be used, however it cannot be collected by the garbage collector.

I mean you have to work hard to get a memory leak by accident

But yeah

Also about the parsing

[olive lance]

So if I have no reference to the player after he disconnects

Is that ok theN? but continue

[ivory sleet]

Do you mean Player -> UUID or UUID -> Player?

[ivory sleet]

Yes

Sounds splendid

[waxen plinth]

Store the uuid

It's not expensive to get a player by uuid

[olive lance]

Well it would be back and forth both ways

Like in pvp

[ivory sleet]

Yeah just a thread safe HashMap essentially iirc

[waxen plinth]

Stop prematurely optimizing if you don't know the actual computational cost

[olive lance]

would have to check players to then see what team they are in player->uuid then to check teams members

idek whereim going with this

[ivory sleet]

Me neither lol

[olive lance]

heres some of my code https://paste.md-5.net/wowoyoyuhi.java

cool link

[ivory sleet]

But yeah, usually we do the optimizations after fiddling stuff into work

[olive lance]

wowoyoyuhi

[ivory sleet]

At the stage when you see bad performance

[olive lance]

That sounds like a smart way to work

[waxen plinth]

Or if you know in advance that something is expensive

[ivory sleet]

And then of course there’s this non functional requirement that your software should be fast

[waxen plinth]

But you shouldn't assume without knowing

[ivory sleet]

Which is hard to tackle

So make it a functional requirement by setting a requirement on the speed

Like, I want this to work fine when the server is at 500 players

[olive lance]

how do you know how fast your plugin is running

[waxen plinth]

You can look at timings

[ivory sleet]

Indeed

[gritty urchin]

How to send enderdragon to specific client

[tacit drift]

packets entity?

or change the direction of a enderdragon that it takes?

[gritty urchin]

yeah packet entity

[olive lance]

how to reindex in intellij?

[tacit drift]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/spawn-entity-using-protocollib-wrappers.370803/

[gritty urchin]

what about with NMS

I don't want to use additional dependency

[ivory sleet]

🌝

[tacit drift]

well, I wouldn't recommend NMS

future updates can break the plugin

[gritty urchin]

Yeah its only for one version

[tacit drift]

and pretty much every server uses protocollib

[gritty urchin]

I do not plan on updating

I've tried this

        final EntityEnderDragon entity = new EntityEnderDragon(world);
        PacketPlayOutSpawnEntityLiving spawn = new PacketPlayOutSpawnEntityLiving(entity);
        ((CraftPlayer)p).getHandle().playerConnection.sendPacket(spawn);```

but it doesnt work

[olive lance]

intellij says cannot resolve method about a method i just defined in another project. Ive restarted the IDE already and still spitting this

[quaint mantle]

Oooo 1.12

[olive lance]

nvm

[gritty urchin]

Yeah how do I send it

[olive lance]

i didnt rebuild

[golden turret]

another project you mean

literally another project?

[olive lance]

yea i got it i didnt rebuild it

[golden turret]

if yes and you are using maven/gradle to use that, update it on the maven

[olive lance]

oh yea im a nub and dont use those

[golden turret]

congratulations

[olive lance]

im not saying that to be that guy

[quaint mantle]

Four words:
Use proper build tool

[olive lance]

i actually just donrt know how to lmao

[tacit drift]

what events do i need to listen to in order to protect an armorstand completly?

[olive lance]

armostandChangeEvent

something like that i know for sure

[tacit drift]

atm i only listen to EntityDamageByEntityEvent and EntityDamageEvent

[olive lance]

PlayerArmorStandManipulateEvent

[quaint mantle]

Cant you Just armorstand#setInvulnerable and addEquipmentLock on all slots?

[trail lintel]

Hey guys, glad to have found this discord. I'm just getting started and trying to add a custom item. I am adding it like so.

enderBagItem = new ItemStack(Material.ENDER_EYE, 1);
ItemMeta meta = enderBagItem.getItemMeta();

But this seems to be inheriting the actual behavior of the ender eye as well as the appearance of it. How do I tell it just to use the sprite of the ender eye, but remove any right click events for it?

[tacit drift]

i don't think there is a setInvulnerable

[chilly haven]

Hi am trying to make a poison bow so i am using the entitybowshoot event and then get lore of the bow if it is Poison I. But idk how to get the player that is shot and then give that player poison

[tacit drift]

oh wtf

there is

first when i've looked for something like that i didn't find it 🤣

[quaint mantle]

There is

[olive lance]

How do you take off ul,bold,italic etc without removing the actual color? Or is there maybe some kind of previous color?

[merry briar]

Hey, I want copy blocks from other location to a other location, but how?

[quaint mantle]

place the color after decoration

[ivory sleet]

Adventure 😌

[quaint mantle]

or use adventure smg

[olive lance]

Can you link? i cant find that

[quaint mantle]

docs.adventure.kyori.net

Well, you'll need to setup a build tool first

[olive lance]

got it thanks

[mighty sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/921114926142070784/921114932475482132/unknown.png

Im coding Bukkit in kotlin

and it says that broadcast message is deprecated

what does that mean

[quaint mantle]

1. You are on paper
2. The deprecation note literally says you what to use instead

Wasnt meant thst paper is bad

[mighty sparrow]

idk what deprecated means

[buoyant viper]

it means its an old way of doing something and is (usually) planned for removal @mighty sparrow

[mighty sparrow]

ooooh thanks!

my english is not my first language its a new word for me owo

[buoyant viper]

yeah paper is phasing out a lot of bukkits api for text-related things in favor of their own with kyoris adventure lib

[quaint mantle]

Google translator is your friend

spigot should do it aswell

[merry briar]

?

[ivory sleet]

and paper will probably mark their deprecations to for removal as soon as the hard fork happens.

if not already done that is

[ivory sleet]

Location::getBlock then just Block::setType

Idk how you get your locations but yeah thats 'bout it

[merry briar]

i know, but not whif the locations

[buoyant viper]

kinda sadge tho, wouldnt a for removal actually lead to paper not supporting a lot of bukkit/spigot plugins?

[mighty sparrow]

is there a paper documentation

like bukkit

[ivory sleet]

yes, but I mean thing is, minecraft itself stopped using raw strings a long time ago, so arguably its for quite justifiable reasons.

[buoyant viper]

what if we just beg md to update bukkit api

😎

[ivory sleet]

alternatively ye

[quaint mantle]

yeah. However, the hardfork is far away. I think they would do it when paper would have enough big community

[ivory sleet]

yeah, gonna get hangar up running first 😛

[buoyant viper]

isnt that for sponge?

[ivory sleet]

is it?

[buoyant viper]

or is it paper+sponge

[quaint mantle]

Paper+Sponge

[ivory sleet]

ya

[sacred mountain]

16.12 19:45:35 [Server] Startup18:45:35.590 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Pool stats (total=10, active=0, idle=10, waiting=0)
16.12 19:45:35 [Server] Startup18:45:35.590 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Fill pool skipped, pool is at sufficient level.
16.12 19:45:47 [Server] Startup18:45:47.400 [AL-MySQL-Pool housekeeper] DEBUG com.zaxxer.hikari.pool.HikariPool - AL-MySQL-Pool - Pool stats (total=40, active=0, idle=40, waiting=0)
16.12 19:46:05 [Server] Startup18:46:05.590 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Pool stats (total=10, active=0, idle=10, waiting=0)
16.12 19:46:05 [Server] Startup18:46:05.591 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Fill pool skipped, pool is at sufficient level.
16.12 19:46:17 [Server] Startup18:46:17.400 [AL-MySQL-Pool housekeeper] DEBUG com.zaxxer.hikari.pool.HikariPool - AL-MySQL-Pool - Pool stats (total=40, active=0, idle=40, waiting=0)
16.12 19:46:35 [Server] Startup18:46:35.591 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Pool stats (total=10, active=0, idle=10, waiting=0)
16.12 19:46:35 [Server] Startup18:46:35.591 [luckperms-hikari housekeeper] DEBUG me.lucko.luckperms.lib.hikari.pool.HikariPool - luckperms-hikari - Fill pool skipped, pool is at sufficient level.
16.12 19:46:47 [Server] Startup18:46:47.401 [AL-MySQL-Pool housekeeper] DEBUG com.zaxxer.hikari.pool.HikariPool - AL-MySQL-Pool - Pool stats (total=40, active=0, idle=40, waiting=0)```

Console is just being spammed with these debug msgs, please help me

[buoyant viper]

#help-server ?

[quaint mantle]

Sponge decided to use Hangar because Ore is written on Scala, and that scares contributors

[olive lance]

How can i be sure my papi extension will load after my plugin?

[ivory sleet]

ah fair enough

[quaint mantle]

depend in plugin yml i think

[eternal oxide]

?scheduling

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/scheduler-programming/

[sacred mountain]

no one is there

[ivory sleet]

patience young one

[buoyant viper]

and this channel isnt for server issues

[olive lance]

Ive been following their tutorial on their site and Im not extending javaplugin so will a plugin.yml do anything?

[ivory sleet]

nope

if you have a separate jar