help-development

[smoky oak]

you cant change one variable you have to make it completely new

[hybrid spoke]

yeah

immutable concept

DTOs

very useful

[daring sierra]

cool

[calm whale]

But I should have only one, I clear the default renderer to add mine with the red X cursor

[lost matrix]

This:

  @EventHandler
  public void onInteract(final EntityDamageEvent event) {
    if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof final Player player)) {
      return;
    }
    player.sendMessage("Yay");
  }

[lusty cipher]

let's watch how every other discord will say the same, but seeya 👍

[hybrid spoke]

we already helped you enough

aaand hes gone

[candid galleon]

bruh pattern variables are MWAH

[young knoll]

“”” Strings “”” are also neat

[hybrid spoke]

okay i am not a fan of this

at least not yet

[lusty cipher]

The biggest downside I see of records is that Gson doesn't support them and it's the only lib embedded in MC (or Spigot? idk) that I am aware of

[young knoll]

The instanceof variable creation is very nice

[lusty cipher]

that final does look..... weird

[lost matrix]

Oh you like casting and redundant calls...

  @EventHandler
  public void onInteract(final EntityDamageEvent event) {
    if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof Player)) {
      return;
    }
    final Player player = (Player) event.getEntity();
    player.sendMessage("Yay");
  }

[smoky oak]

how in the world do you create a variable with a instanceof operator

[grim ice]

wdym

itll run code

for each stick

[lusty cipher]

Java 16 feature lol

[young knoll]

Technically the final isn’t necessary

[grim ice]

isnt that what he wants

[hybrid spoke]

yeah

[lost matrix]

😦

[smoky oak]

no isnt instanceof just comparing two objects and checks if both are instances of the same class?

[grim ice]

@lost matrix why do you add final?

[hybrid spoke]

to let the compiler know it will not change anymore

[lusty cipher]

You could also just do it like this, makes it even simpler for a short code block

  @EventHandler
  public void onInteract(final EntityDamageEvent event) {
    if (event.getEntity() instanceof final Player player) {
      player.sendMessage("Yay");
    }
  }

[grim ice]

I liek this

[lost matrix]

My IDE does. I like my variables to be qualified in anonymous methods/classes like lambdas and thread safe by default.

[grim ice]

yeah i know but its not necessary right

[smoky oak]

ah so you create the variable if and only if its an instance of the variable you are trying to create

that makes more sense

[hybrid spoke]

nope

and overusing it is bad too

[grim ice]

o

[hybrid spoke]

at least against the java language specifications

[grim ice]

but tbh i like how smile do stuff

ill prob do his way dunno

[lusty cipher]

but if you're already using Java 16 you could also just use var to skip writing types completely lol

[grim ice]

making my own style is really bad for now i guess, i found out i competely suck at principles

[lost matrix]

I would disagree on that. Wait let me search the article that explains why you cant
use enough final in java

[candid galleon]

var is a forbidden word for me

[lusty cipher]

var is bae

[smoky oak]

im only using java 16 because I dont want to use legacy mode

[lost matrix]

Same. Go do JS if you want ambiguous variables.

[grim ice]

ikr

[smoky oak]

urgh

in js

I can never remember what 'this' is

[daring sierra]

it works and it's clean. why no likey?

[lost matrix]

https://javamex.com/tutorials/synchronization_final.shtml
"When should I use final?" -> "whenever you possibly can"

[grim ice]

for me i liked how smile did it

ill 100% use his way from now on

[hybrid spoke]

i am stuck on j8 due to my work so i cant really get into j16. maybe it will change sometime but not for now

[young knoll]

It’s only bad if you purposely make things final that shouldn’t be final and then create ugly workarounds

[candid galleon]

unnecessary final usage is so ugly imo

[young knoll]

You’d hate netbeans

[celest oasis]

How to check if the mobs is undead or not?

[young knoll]

You’d probably need a custom method for that

[lost matrix]

I feel that. Had to fight a bit for java 11. But as long as its inside a container and the micro service delivers what its
specified to do i can use any LTS version.

[young knoll]

I don’t know if the API exposed anything

[smoky oak]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Zombie.html
Maybe that helps

[lusty cipher]

if (entity instanceof Zombie) and then check for every other undead mob?

[smoky oak]

yea

[young knoll]

You could make a set of entity types and then use contains()

[lost matrix]

In the sense that the SMITE enchantment would do extra damage to them?

[hybrid spoke]

this doesnt mean that you have to declare every var. as final. overdoing it is just "wrong" and ugly. instead you could just declare your method as final instead of the local vars

[candid galleon]

there's probably a tag for that

[minor garnet]

i getting this error on run my maven project why ? im using jdk 1.8

[young knoll]

Don’t know if Mojang ever moved that to a tag

[cyan oyster]

[19:49:03 ERROR]: Could not load 'plugins\a.jar' in folder 'plugins': uses the space-character (0x20) in its name

but the plugin name is

a.jar
no spaces

error

[young knoll]

Not the file name

The name in plugin.yml

[hybrid spoke]

your project sdk is probably too low

[celest oasis]

No I wanted to make if undead attack player the damage is reduced to 75%

[hybrid spoke]

set it to 8 or higher

[celest oasis]

Under certain cicumstance

[hybrid spoke]

then build again

[lost matrix]

But i prevent stuff like this by default:

[quiet ice]

You are using Java 8+ features with a compile target of java 5

[lusty cipher]

Look at EntityDamageEvent (i think that's the name), check if its a player being damaged and then check if its a zombie, skeleton or whatever attacking. then override the damage. ez

[grim ice]

@lost matrix btw how do i make intellIj do that too

[hybrid spoke]

yeah but does it even matter?

[grim ice]

i think it doesnt do that for me

[celest oasis]

        if (event.getCause() == EntityDamageEvent.DamageCause.ENTITY_ATTACK) {
            System.out.println("Test");
            for (Class classCheck: UNDEAD) {
                if (classCheck.isAssignableFrom(event.getEntity().getType().getEntityClass())) {
                    event.setDamage(event.getDamage() * 0.75);
                    return;
                }
            }
        }

That's what I did for now event is EntityDamageEntityEvent

[hybrid spoke]

the sdk in your project structure

[lost matrix]

It wont compile otherwise

[hybrid spoke]

@minor garnet

[lost matrix]

Has to be final. Anyways.

[candid galleon]

could also just use a ternary

one line it

[hybrid spoke]

not what i meant. if you get the error in your ide or not, does that even matter?

[lusty cipher]

And what's wrong with that?

[hybrid spoke]

controlled final looks so much better than just declaring everything as final

[lost matrix]

Yes it matters. The error shows that this code will not compile because the used variable is not effectively final.

[cyan oyster]

oh

[hybrid spoke]

so you make it final because your ide just said to do

would agree otherwise if you would code in notepad

but you dont

[lusty cipher]

javac will tell you the same thing (in the lambda case)

[lost matrix]

No i make everything final so all my variables are automatically thread safe on default.

[celest oasis]

The test pop up in console but when I change the print(Test) to after isAssignableFrom it didn't pop up in console

[young knoll]

I would just use a list of entity types rather than classes

[lusty cipher]

^

reflection for such a case is..... nasty

[lost matrix]

It also shows a clear intention for the variables not being subject to re-declaration.

[young knoll]

Just don’t be like mojang

final immutable lists are evil for modders

[hybrid spoke]

understandable on instance or class variables, but not at local variables. just declare the method or parameter as final so nobody can override it.

[lusty cipher]

For the final thing, I personally only really care for fields to be final if they should and then. Inside of a function I don't make anything final in 90% of the cases, except if there's a lambda.

[hybrid spoke]

thats a point but redundant for cases where this will never be required

[celest oasis]

So that means I had to put in every mob into the list right?

[lost matrix]

If the method is a bit longer and somewhere down the line the var is used in a lambda or another thread,
then someone going into that code has no idea what variables are safe to re-declare. He has to go through
the whole code and look for any usages before changing anything.

[young knoll]

Every entity type that you want to consider undead

You can do it all in one line with Arrays.asList or similar

[celest oasis]

Alright thx

[lost matrix]

But i see your point. Im not saying its a convention. Just my preference.

[hybrid spoke]

^ agreed

[candid galleon]

instanceof Zombie and Skeleton should cover most of the alternatives

i think technically spider is undead?

[stone sinew]

Whats he trying to do?

[candid galleon]

EntityType#isAlive is also a thing

[young knoll]

Zombie, skeleton, zombie piglin, wither

[lost matrix]

Did he follow up on my question what qualifies as "undead"
I would say everything affected by the SMITE enchantment.

[candid galleon]

honestly isAlive should cover all of it

[young knoll]

Ah yeah isAlive looks good

I was wondering if spigot exposed that somewhere

Although that may be for LivingEntity not undead

[grim ice]

what java tutorial do you guys think is good for functional interfaces and java principles? I'm missing on those

[hybrid spoke]

#isAlive doesnt even have javadocs

[celest oasis]

I was about to ask that

[young knoll]

You can always test it

But I assume its the same as instanceof LivingEntity

[candid galleon]

wym

why would it be attached to entitytype lol

[lost matrix]

Ill go into NMS and look how the smite enchantment determines undead...

[young knoll]

Because not all types are alive?

[candid galleon]

ah

i see

[young knoll]

I assume there is a Boolean somewhere in NMS that spigot should expose

[celest oasis]

Yep it is

[young knoll]

The smite enchant and instant health/damage effects must use something

[hybrid spoke]

arent nearly all Monster undead

[young knoll]

No

[grim ice]

No

[young knoll]

Most are not

[lusty cipher]

is a Creeper udnead?

[young knoll]

Silverfish, spiders, creepers, endermen, ghast, blaze, are all not undead

[celest oasis]

Zombie variant, Skeleton variant, wither and zoglin only

[grim ice]

there are 49 undead mobs

[celest oasis]

Those are counting from other game

[lost matrix]

Honestly... this is a bit undynamic but you could just write an EnumSet and add your EntityTypes that should be affected in there.

[celest oasis]

Like mc dungeons

[young knoll]

Yeah that was my original suggestion

Well a set, enumset is a good call

[hybrid spoke]

there is nothing you can identify if its undead or not actually

[young knoll]

There is

There has to be somewhere

[hybrid spoke]

at least not in the api

[celest oasis]

Isn't that same as writing an arraylist of entityType and check if the entityType is in the list or not?

[young knoll]

Pretty much

But set.contains is faster than list.contains

[lost matrix]

This is how the smite enchantment does it.

entityliving.getMonsterType() == EnumMonsterType.b;

Very insightful

[celest oasis]

lmao

[young knoll]

Monster type should be exposed in the API then

I assume arthropod is also a part of that

[lost matrix]

I have no idea whats part of that because i dont have the moj mappings applied atm

[grim ice]

do you guys recommend "Clean Code"?

[young knoll]

Well apply the dang mappings then :p

[hybrid spoke]

the book?

[grim ice]

yes

[hybrid spoke]

which one

[lost matrix]

No. Make your code hacky and unreadable. This way they cant fire you because only you understand your code.

[young knoll]

Exactly

[grim ice]

by robert martin

[grim ice]

no its a book lol

[young knoll]

Job security through obscurity

[hybrid spoke]

yes

[lost matrix]

Definetively. But there is also a talk on yt where he goes through his whole book. Recommendable.

[grim ice]

okay ill read it i guess

i hope i can understand something from it though LOL

[lost matrix]

Watch the talk on yt. It covers almost everything in his book and is quite watchable.

[zealous crow]

hello there, not 100% sure it's a good place to do it, but as dev's what do you think about my project and it's documentation attached? is it reallistic to have a 200€ budget(shops hook excluded) for it?

[hybrid spoke]

its pretty easy written

have it myself

informative

[young knoll]

I’m sure he’s a great guy but writing an entire book about clean code does not make you sound fun at parties :p

[hybrid spoke]

yeah he declares it as his own recommendations and cover every possbile unclean code part

[zealous crow]

french mistake^^ thanks

[candid galleon]

is that a default powerpoint background

[hybrid spoke]

but his idiom is like "you have to do this and everything except of me is doing it wrong"

[zealous crow]

yes why bother the content is more important isn't it? (it google doc BTW)

[candid galleon]

why bother having it in the first place

[grim ice]

bro why is he explaining how far away is the sun

wtf

[dim bluff]

hey... I'm still stuck xD, why is the "dataSection.getKeys(false)" empty

[candid galleon]

well what does the config look like?

[lost matrix]

You also go watch the talk. He has great anecdotes and starts every chapter with an interesting science fact.

[candid galleon]

and how do you know it's empty?

[worn tundra]

Just check #isSet
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/configuration/ConfigurationSection.html#isSet(java.lang.String)

[grim ice]

dont use configs on runtime

smile wouldve told you that lol

[candid galleon]

yall really got some issues with configs

[lost matrix]

He doesnt. He loads it in his onEnable once. (unlike you...)

[grim ice]

o

[hybrid spoke]

provide more code

[grim ice]

lul

[dim bluff]

I just printed the keySet of the map

[candid galleon]

can we see the code and the resulting print message?

[lost matrix]

look into plugin/YourPlugin/config.yml instead of the one in your IDE.

[open pawn]

hey i made a copy paste plugin and when i copy chests and tileentity in general i use nbtTagCompound with 1.15 NMS and when i load the nbt the chest/beacon/any other tile entity i see the copied chest/beacon inventory for a milisecond and then it instantly closes. i checked and the items are not bugged

any help?

[dim bluff]

it says items: {} I think this explains alot...

[lost matrix]

Thats what i suspected earlier.

[dim bluff]

why isn't my config.yml from the IDE saving?

[lost matrix]

Show your onEnable. the saveDefaultConfig() method fails silently if there is already a config present so that user configs dont get overwritten.

[grim ice]

LMFAO

WTFs/minute

[lost matrix]

Should be fine. Remove the config.yml and restart your server.

[dim bluff]

it keeps creating an emptry config

"empty"

[lost matrix]

Ok

1. Stop the server
2. Remove the config.yml
3. Start the server

If you just delete then restart, the onDisable will safe the empty map into your file

[hybrid spoke]

why are you reloading the config after just saving it

[lost matrix]

Does saving from jar -> disk also load the config?

[dim bluff]

Pog

[hybrid spoke]

it should

[dim bluff]

tytytytytytytytytyy

[lost matrix]

idk honsetly. I just use my custom config system.

[lost matrix]

It works?

Noice

[hybrid spoke]

yeah it does

at least if the config doesnt exist

otherwise it fails

[dim bluff]

gotta fix plugin stuff but thats ez. The part of loading the map works

tyty

[grim ice]

its been fking 30 minutes

he still didnt start talking about coding

what the fuck?

[hybrid spoke]

not everything in coding is coding

[grim ice]

yeah but i dont wanna know how faar is the sun from me

or why i would go to jail for coding

ffs im making spigot plugins

[calm whale]

I'm still stuck on my try to prerender a map, if someone can help me it would be awesome !
Here is the last code and the last result: https://paste.md-5.net/utajiwenic.java

[ancient plank]

coding for me is 30 minutes of making sure my packages and maven is set up correctly

[grim ice]

wtf

it takes like 3 minutes

[bitter mural]

Hey, all! Is there a standard way to simulate a random tick in a chunk that is more than 128 blocks from any players, or should I roll my own?

[lost matrix]

Coding for me is starting to write 2 lines of code and then getting side tracked by this channel

[ancient plank]

lol

actual truth

[eternal oxide]

That render looks to me like the wrong width

[zealous crow]

I have a nice score for my WTF per minute about my plugin request documentation i published few minutes ago: only one typo and not a single "WTF bro 200€ for that work! you are crazy!"

[bitter mural]

Coding for me is setting out to make a prototype, and getting so bogged down on architecture that I don't code any features for 2 days

[calm whale]

how that ?

[grim ice]

aaa im so lost

idk what to start with

i wanna get better at java but idk what to do

[eternal oxide]

line 74 why not just 0 - 3 ?

you are pasting in quaters

[calm whale]

I paste nothing

[hybrid spoke]

isnt coding like having a brilliant idea in midnight, getting up, setting everything up and then being lazy?

[eternal oxide]

you are setting the map in quaters

4 across teh z

[calm whale]

ok but what do you mean ?

[eternal oxide]

you are doing a whole mess of math in your for loops that can easily go wrong. do the math in the setPositionRaw not the for loops

[lost matrix]

Yes 100%. I always have those 1AM great ideas where i start a clean new project just to abandon it shortly after.

[grim ice]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[grim ice]

https://paste.md-5.net/meqexeboke.java is there spaghetti here

[calm whale]

I really suck when it's about maths so can you explain me what operation I'm supposed to do here setPositionRaw(x, 1., z); ?

[eternal oxide]

ok, each section of your map is 32?

or 64?

well you are setting chunk tickets on an area of chunks 64 x 64

[calm whale]

OH, WAIT, I juste set the scale to normal

it is almost good

[crude charm]

Is it possible to do x marks the spot on 1.8?

^ using inbuilt spigot methods

aka no packets

[grim ice]

i want to access something from an abstract class but the field is protected, what do I do

[eternal oxide]

a getter

[crude charm]

^

[grim ice]

it works there?

ok ig

[worldly ingot]

If you have a protected field you can access it from the child class. Unless you're not extending it

In which case, yeah, same package or a getter

[eternal oxide]

Originally his design was an abstract class with a protected static Map as he only need to access it within all command classes. But his design seems to have expanded beyond that and he is now wanting to access it from other classes, invalidating the original design. He should move the map to its own class now with getters/setters. and scrap the abstract base class.

[grim ice]

i was using same package and it looks ugly as fuck

so i changed it

isnt it same as static abuse?

[eternal oxide]

no

[grim ice]

either way

i had a listener class in a commands package

lol

[eternal oxide]

Thats fine, if yoru listener is ONLY affecting the command

not a listener class but a listener in a command class

[grim ice]

i dont need the setters tho right

[crude charm]

Yup, but if I was to do that then I would make a sub package for that command with the command + listener

up to you tho

[eternal oxide]

Its time to redesign yoru whole layout.

[grim ice]

i prefer a diff package for listeners

[crude charm]

^ thats what I do

[eternal oxide]

your leaders Map should now be in its own singleton class with util methods/getter/setters

[crude charm]

wdym?

[grim ice]

o

[eternal oxide]

never give direct access to the map. Keep full control of add/remove/search/clear etc via getter/setter

[grim ice]

o

[grim ice]

btw

how to make a method accept any type of collection

like a list or an arraylist or a hashmap

[eternal oxide]

I showed you a method like that

[stone sinew]

Collection<Object>?

[eternal oxide]

public <T extends Collection<ItemStack>> void doStuff(T collection)

[grim ice]

o

Raw use of parameterized class 'Collection'

[eternal oxide]

or whatever

[grim ice]

public <T extends Collection<Object>> void doStuff(T collection)
?

[eternal oxide]

don;t use Object if you know what the contents will be

[grim ice]

btw what does "T" mean?

also i dont

[quiet ice]

what the hell am I witnessing

T is a generic parameter in this case

[grim ice]

Someone trying to learn, and someone helping

[eternal oxide]

T means, read up on java generics

[grim ice]

theyre not explaining whats t or e or whatever

NVM

i foudn a website

t means type right

i knew k and v

[eternal oxide]

yes

they are all generic variables

you assign something to, then use in yoru code

in our case it was a type variable T was assigned T extends Collection<Object>

so T value would accept anyhing that extended Collection

[grim ice]

but public void clear(Collection<Object> collection){

would work too

right

[eternal oxide]

yes

learn generics and use them

they are mighty powerful

[grim ice]

o

[bitter mural]

How does one measure the impact of one's plugin on a server? I.e. how much lag?

Is there maybe a tool people use, or maybe emperical evidence? Feedback from users?

[eternal oxide]

/timings

[tidal skiff]

bruh i thought this was a simple thing but apparently not

how tf do u generate a random number

i cant find any useful info online

that explains how it works

[eternal oxide]

google java random

[tidal skiff]

i have

[eternal oxide]

and what did you come up with?

[tidal skiff]

new Random() shit

[eternal oxide]

good shit

[grim ice]

how do i return based on an if? isnt there smth liek return ? smth

[manic bison]

hey, how can i count how many players have a certain potion effects ?

that returns an int

[grim ice]

private int potionSearchIdk(){
int i = 0;
for(Player player : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers){
if(player.hasPotionEffect(effect)
i++
}
return i;
}

[manic bison]

thanks!

[grim ice]

:D

@eternal oxide idk it seems useless to make those util methods

as each of my classes

have their own checks

[eternal oxide]

all your checks shoudl be in your one class

the one with the Map

all your other classes should use the util methods to request a result

[grim ice]

so i have to make like

7 util methods

for checks?

[eternal oxide]

if thats what you need, yes

[grim ice]

aaa

is that really necessary, i cant see any improvement if i do that

its the same thing

[eternal oxide]

you should only be needing isLeader, getLeader, isMember, addLeader, addMember, getTeamIndex, removeMember, removeLeader, clear

[stone sinew]

Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().stream().filter(p -> p.hasPotionEffect(Effect)).collect

[grim ice]

^

[grim ice]

I MEAN

aaaaaaaaaaaa

why is life this painful

btw

dis no work

public <T extends Collection<Object>> void clear(T collection){

[eternal oxide]

no work?

[grim ice]

yes 1s lemme sendu da thing

reason: no instance(s) of type variable(s) exist so that LinkedHashMap<UUID, List<UUID>> conforms to Collection<Object>

[tidal skiff]

anyone know how dream did his 'Minecraft, But The World Changes Every Time...'?? like how do u generate a new seed and delete the old one

[eternal oxide]

it would be easier if you gave a full error

[grim ice]

Required type:
T

Provided:
LinkedHashMap
<java.util.UUID,
java.util.List<java.util.UUID>>
reason: no instance(s) of type variable(s) exist so that LinkedHashMap<UUID, List<UUID>> conforms to Collection<Object>

[eternal oxide]

and the code?

[worldly ingot]

he's passing a map into his clear method that requires a collection

(1) your method signature above has no purpose being generic whatsoever

[grim ice]

public <T extends Collection<Object>> void clear(T collection){
collection.clear();
}
clear(leaders);

[eternal oxide]

other way around I believe

[worldly ingot]

(2) tf are you writing a method to just call .clear()?

[eternal oxide]

yeah, its a map nto a collection

so you need to find that collection in values to remove it

[grim ice]

o

[eternal oxide]

um, why are you calling clear on teh collection you just passed?

[grim ice]

to cleaar it

[worldly ingot]

Yeah but you can just not write the method to begin with and just call collection.clear()

Like...

[eternal oxide]

clear shoudl be a no args method to clear the map

[worldly ingot]

Why are you writing a method for that?

[grim ice]

someone told me i shouldnt give direct access to the map so i did it

i prob misunderstood him though

[eternal oxide]

if you want to remove a specific team you create a method like removeTeam or removeLeader

[worldly ingot]

I mean... yeah that's definitely not what they meant lol

[grim ice]

then ill just use the built in method

[stone sinew]

private Map

public Map getMap() { return map; }

[grim ice]

tbh why even make the methods

[grim ice]

u prob dont get him too

[eternal oxide]

yeah no, don;t return teh map

[grim ice]

i dont think i should make those methods tbh

if i should i would prob just make isMember and isLeader

[eternal oxide]

yes

[grim ice]

and getteamindex

are the only ones useful

others are like 2 lines

[eternal oxide]

Thats what I'm saying. util methods. Do not explose the map itself

before it was fine as your map was in an abstract class as protected static

Now you are needing access in other classes you move it to its own singleton class with util methods to control all access

You may not see the point in this simple code, but later when you want to run things async and have to synchronise code.

[grim ice]

yes

[waxen plinth]

DURABILITY should do the trick in 1.12 and below

[eternal oxide]

or some other plugin tries to access your map via the async chat handler. You can easily make your code threadsafe.

[worldly ingot]

There's nothing wrong with exposing the map in a getter but if you're going to do so, at least either make a copy. Immutable or mutable depending on whether or not you want to allow developers to adjust a copy of the map when they receive it (either Collections.unmodifiableMap(map), Guava's ImmutableMap.copyOf(), or new HashMap<>(map) depending on what you want - all of them are different)

Though it also shouldn't be your primary means of receiving information from a map. Ideally there would be getters that yield the appropriate values/keys

[quaint mantle]

Since I don't need the whole lib I included what I need and this is the modifications I did on ItemTrait (not tested yet):

[waxen plinth]

I'm on mobile

Could you put it on a paste service?

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[quaint mantle]

https://paste.md-5.net/gasazuraya.php

[waxen plinth]

Looks good to me

I'll merge if you want to PR it

[quaint mantle]

I'm sorry but I will let you do so if and whenever you want. I'm working on something right now ^^

[waxen plinth]

Okay

[lost matrix]

VersionResolver.getNms().getVersion() <= 1.12 float condition with doubles can be dangerous.

[waxen plinth]

That's gonna be fine as long as you don't do ==

[quaint mantle]

my bad. Thank you to have spotted that ^^

my getVersion returns an int. modified it on one side but forgot the other ^^

[waxen plinth]

But it would be a good idea to use an int for the major semver

Okay

[lost matrix]

Might be 1.12000000000000024 and fail

[waxen plinth]

True

[grim ice]

https://github.com/2Hex/Teams

anyone can help me make dis better

but no toxicity pls

im still learning

[cold field]

Pre-Generatred seeds with pre-generated worlds probably

[hidden delta]

did you make your repository private?

[waxen plinth]

I don't know if it's possible to delete the main world

You can easily make more though

[grim ice]

a collab did it

[quaint mantle]

how to make a description of the subject with the ability to add lines through the config?

[severe zenith]

hey, how to prevent a EntityDamageEvent to be reduced by armor or something

[lost matrix]

You want to prevent armor from reducing the damage?

[severe zenith]

yeah, sry

[quaint mantle]

I think through if and setcanceled

[severe zenith]

didnt get the english word

no i want to call it

[lost matrix]

Thats not possible directly. You can set the damage in the event to 0 and reduce the entities health by the amount of damage in the event before.

Unless you are in an older version. For some reason the event had a setFinalDamage() method which could be used to bypass all damage reduction...

Why was that removed anyways?

[severe zenith]

no im in 1.16

[severe zenith]

EntityDamageEvent e = new EntityDamageEvent(p, EntityDamageEvent.DamageReason.CUSTOM, 0);
Bukkit.callEvent(e);
p.setHealth(p.getHealth() - 10);

do you mean like this?

[lost matrix]

No

[severe zenith]

what do you mean with "in the event before"?

[lost matrix]

  @EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST)
  public void onDamage(final EntityDamageEvent event) {
    if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof Player player)) {
      return;
    }
    final double damage = event.getDamage();
    event.setDamage(0);
    player.setHealth(Math.max(player.getHealth() - damage, 0));
  }

You should also increase the event priority

[severe zenith]

ok, got it, thanks

[quaint mantle]

how to make a description of the subject with the ability to add lines through the config?

are you speaking about items name and lore @quaint mantle ?

yes

via config

It's complicated.
You need to read the config file and to build the item stack accordingly.

You know how to read a config file ?

yes

For item stack building you can take a look at https://github.com/Redempt/RedLib/

I already have a config with the name of the item

how can I add a description to an item?

[lost matrix]

You can load a List<String> from a config.

item:
  type: IRON_SWORD
  name: "Cool item name"
  lore:
    - ""
    - "This is"
    - "an example"

Then you can read the List<String> from the path item.lore

[quaint mantle]

how to use it?

[lost matrix]

How to use what exactly?

[quaint mantle]

https://github.com/Redempt/RedLib/blob/f70fb9ca7ac4267af576fb7a6071b4947f07ac32/src/redempt/redlib/itemutils/ItemUtils.java#L82

how do I get the name and description from the config in the code?

oh

final List<String> lore = plugin.getConfig().getStringList("mySampleItem.lore");

[lost matrix]

    final FileConfiguration configuration = ...;
    List<String> lore = configuration.getStringList("item.lore");
    String name = configuration.getString("item.name");
    Material material = Material.matchMaterial(configuration.getString("item.type"));

[quaint mantle]

can I add more lines of description?

[tall dragon]

yes

[quaint mantle]

as many as you want

how?

but if you add too much you will have display issues in minecraft

[tall dragon]

well type them in the config

[quaint mantle]

item:
  type: IRON_SWORD
  name: "Cool item name"
  lore:
    - ""
    - "This is"
    - "an example"
    - "with more lines"
    - "and even more lines"

[tall dragon]

as shown here

[quaint mantle]

thank you all very much for your help. I will try

Good luck

[restive tangle]

    private static void createItem(Material mat, String name, Boolean glow, ItemStack itemParse){
        ItemStack item = new ItemStack(mat);
        ItemMeta itemMeta = item.getItemMeta();
        itemMeta.setDisplayName(Utility.color(name));
        if(glow){
            itemMeta.addEnchant(Enchantment.LUCK,1,false);
            itemMeta.addItemFlags(ItemFlag.HIDE_ENCHANTS);
        }
        item.setItemMeta(itemMeta);
        itemParse = item;
    }

I made this method , on the init i added the createItem and added it to the on enable , the itemParse is the private itemstack in the class

it does not seem to work because whenever i call this command it does nothing

    public static void giveLobbyItems(Player p){
        p.getInventory().clear();
        p.getInventory().setItem(0,Items.multiplier);
        p.getInventory().setItem(4,Items.clicker);
        p.getInventory().setItem(5,Items.playerCompass);
        p.getInventory().setItem(8,Items.warp);
    }

[tardy delta]

Boolean

[restive tangle]

?

[tall dragon]

he means you should use the primitive type

aka "boolean"

[restive tangle]

oh , alright ill try thanks

[tall dragon]

well that wont solve the problem

it was just an observation

[restive tangle]

hm , so what do you think the issue is

[tall dragon]

well this is not quite enough information. can you show me the init part

[restive tangle]

    public static ItemStack warp;
    public static ItemStack multiplier;
    public static ItemStack playerCompass;

    public static void init(){
        createItem(Material.BEACON, "&6&lClicker", true, clicker);
        createItem(Material.PAPER, "&e&lWarp",true, warp);
        createItem(Material.EMERALD, "&e&lShop",true, multiplier);
        createItem(Material.COMPASS, "&e&lPlayers", true, playerCompass);
    }```

[tall dragon]

huh

[quaint mantle]

works. thank you very much to everyone

[tall dragon]

why dont you make createItem return an itemstack

and set the variable in the init method

like clicker = createItem(Material.BEACON, "&6&lClicker", true);

[ivory sleet]

static init block

[restive tangle]

@tall dragon thanks , it works

[grim ice]

how to get a random index of a list

list.get(ThreadLocalRandom.current().nextInt(smth and list.size())

[tardy delta]

yes

[hardy pivot]

Hi

I have created a 1.17 plugin and i want to run in 1.8, but i dont want to create the same plugin for 1.8, how i can do a complete [1.8-1.17] support?

[stone sinew]

You usually just ask your compiler nicely.

[quiet ice]

How often do you use the material enum?

[stone sinew]

I don't have problems with Material between versions

[quiet ice]

If you use it often that you may need to rewrite your plugin, if you never use it, there isn't too much of an issue

[stone sinew]

Material gets the enum from the server version so it shouldn't cause issues

[quiet ice]

Perhaps, but you need to port your old 1.17 material code down to 1.8

And if you don't want to have the 10+ second delay (may differ from machine to machine) you will have to basically have two declarations for each version

[stone sinew]

I have my own enum but I've used material (when testing) in all versions 1.8-1.17.1 with no issues.

[quiet ice]

Material.BROWN_WOOL is a candidate that would bork

[stone sinew]

Well obviously you would need to check xD

When I wasn't using my own enum I did Material.valueOf() for the materials everything else I only got the material from getType() anyways

[quiet ice]

It becomes easier if you write your stuff with inter-version compat in mind

[quaint mantle]

bork

🐶

[quiet ice]

That is bark

[quaint mantle]

bork bork

[burnt current]

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean. So I should use System.out.println() to print the type of the block and see if it is the right type and then before I fetch the BlockData from the block check with an Instanceof check if it is the right type?

[quaint mantle]

huh

what does that even mean

[burnt current]

how exactly do you mean?

[feral lodge]

what is the NMS packet for moving a fake player (both position and look)?

[lost matrix]

Yes. Check the type of the block.

[silver shuttle]

Are there any spigot limitations to the Java method "Runtime.exec()"?

[ivory sleet]

probably not

Tho I usually use the process builder or what its called over exec from Runtime altho I'd presume they do roughly the same thing

[silver shuttle]

kk

ty

[ivory sleet]

oo found this https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6856028/difference-between-processbuilder-and-runtime-exec

[lost matrix]

Sounds like you wanna do some shady stuff

[silver shuttle]

pfffh I would never

just add an ingame command to execute real cmds

[severe zenith]

Bukkit.getPluginManager().callEvent(new EntityDamageEvent(p, EntityDamageEvent.DamageCause.CUSTOM, 5));

any idea why this doest work?

[silver shuttle]

and pass the arguments into that command

[ivory sleet]

[silver shuttle]

🙂

[ivory sleet]

it does but why

[next stratus]

Hey, just a question regarding lores + nbt; I wanna store some values on a item and make it update in the lore when something happens how would ya'll do it? 🙂

[severe zenith]

it doesnt, my healt does not change

[ivory sleet]

ofc not

but it fires the event

use Attributable#getAttributeInstance to change the health

[severe zenith]

theres no static method
org.bukkit.attribute.Attributable.getAttributeInstance()

[eternal oxide]

Attributable

[ivory sleet]

its an instance method my fellow developer

[burnt current]

ok, so I tried if(location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().getType() instanceof Material.BRICK_STAIRS), but then Material.BRICK_STAIRS in my IDE gives me the error Unknown Class 'Material.BRICK_STAIRS and the line after that (Stairs stairs1 = (Stairs) player.getWorld().getBlockAt(location.add(1,4,4)).getBlockData();) gives the error Declaration not allowed here.

[eternal oxide]

== not instanceof

[severe zenith]

ok how to get the attributable instance of the player?

[eternal oxide]

it already is

[burnt current]

oh ok. The line after that still gives the same error though

[ivory sleet]

actually

player.setHealth(amount) should work

[severe zenith]

ah, ok

[quaint mantle]

List<String> lore = config.getStringList("messages.gui.onebottle.lore");
lore = lore.replace("&", "\u00a7");

why doesn't it work?

[ivory sleet]

Im dumb sry

[eternal oxide]

player.getAttribute(Attribute)

[quaint mantle]

thats a list

you cant do replace

List#stream().map(s -> s.replace()).collect(Collectors.toList())

how can I do this? this is a description of the subject

[eternal oxide]

.add on a location operates on that object. You already modified the Location, so modifying it again will miss your target block

[quaint mantle]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.geeksforgeeks.org/stream-in-java/amp/

[severe zenith]

this is without the damage effect. is there a possibility to add it? also tried Player.damage(double) but this can be reduced by armor. :/

[quaint mantle]

how can this be used?

[ivory sleet]

yeah listen to the damge event also

[quaint mantle]

read the link i sent

[ivory sleet]

and neutralize possible resistance

[quaint mantle]

streams are the most useful thing in java collections

[ivory sleet]

imagine streams without lambdas

[quaint mantle]

how would that even work lol

[burnt current]

ok and what should I use instead?

[quaint mantle]

create a runnable in every function

.map(new Mapper<T>())

[ivory sleet]

streams without generics

[quaint mantle]

cast from objects

[ivory sleet]

🥲

[eternal oxide]

create a Location object to test against, so you don;t modify it multilple times

[quaint mantle]

@quaint mantle, I still didn't understand how to do it

Bruh

List#stream().map(s -> s.replace()).collect(Collectors.toList())

cmon you got this

[ivory sleet]

pog

[eternal oxide]

why 1,1,4? seems a rather specific location

[burnt current]

yes. The whole thing is in a listener for a BlockPlaceEvent. When a certain block is placed, a block should be set at certain coordinates from the coordinate where it was placed.

[eternal oxide]

always oriented in one direction?

[burnt current]

yes

[lost matrix]

So its not relative to the placed block. Always in the same position relative to the player.

And from the looks it could even be the same block the player just placed.

[burnt current]

no not to the player. To the block placed by the player

[lost matrix]

Wait. let me look at the code again.

[burnt current]

I have made it so that it is only executed when a certain block is placed. In this case a red banner

[lost matrix]

Mind showing the whole method?

[burnt current]

of course

[severe zenith]

how to know that a entityDamageEvent is the on i called?

[burnt current]

But I remove some parts that have nothing to do with this part of the method, as the message would then also be too big

[lost matrix]

You can create a Set of events and call remove on it. It returns true if the removed element existed in the set.

[severe zenith]

when i use damage() i dont get the event object

or do i?

[lost matrix]

Oh i see what you are trying to do...

Hm. There are two approaches. Ill give you one example.

[burnt current]

@EventHandler
    public void BannerListener(BlockPlaceEvent event){


        if(event.getBlockPlaced().getType() == Material.RED_BANNER) {
            Player player = event.getPlayer();
            event.setCancelled(true);
            Location location = event.getBlockPlaced().getLocation();

Main.getPlugin().getServer().getScheduler().runTaskLater(Main.getPlugin(), () -> {
                location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().setType(BRICK_STAIRS);
                if(location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().getType() == Material.BRICK_STAIRS)
                Stairs stairs1 = (Stairs) player.getWorld().getBlockAt()).getBlockData();
                stairs1.setFacing(BlockFace.WEST);
                player.getWorld().getBlockAt(location.add(1,4,4)).setBlockData(stairs1);



                player.playSound(player.getLocation(), Sound.ENTITY_ITEM_PICKUP, 10, 29);
            }, 300);

Oh crap I think I have found the error

[stone sinew]

Main.getPlugin().getServer().getScheduler().runTaskLater(Main.getPlugin(), () -> { to Bukkit.getScheduler()

[burnt current]

i have forgotten the {} after if(location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().getType() == Material.BRICK_STAIRS)

[paper viper]

🥲

[lost matrix]

Number one:

  public void damageWithoutReduction(final Player player, final double damage, final DamageCause cause) {
    final EntityDamageEvent event = new EntityDamageEvent(player, cause, damage);
    Bukkit.getPluginManager().callEvent(event);
    if (event.isCancelled()) {
      return;
    }
    player.setHealth(Math.max(0, player.getHealth() - damage));
  }

[burnt current]

oh 😅 thank you... This looks much simpler

[paper viper]

You should try to avoid naming your main class as Main too

and get into the practice of using dependency injection

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[severe zenith]

but this doesnt do the damage effect, does it?

[lost matrix]

I dont think does the damage effect.
2 Options: either damage the player with a value of 0. Or use the second approach im about to write ^^

[burnt current]

Ok I will have a look at it. However, I still have a question about it: What are the differences there?

[lost matrix]

  private final Set<UUID> bypassedPlayers = new HashSet<>();

  public void damageWithoutReduction(final Player player, final double damage) {
    this.bypassedPlayers.add(player.getUniqueId());
    player.damage(damage);
  }

  @EventHandler
  public void onDamage(final EntityDamageEvent event) {
    if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof Player player)) {
      return;
    }
    if (!this.bypassedPlayers.remove(player.getUniqueId())) {
      return;
    }
    final double damage = event.getDamage();
    event.setDamage(0);
    player.setHealth(Math.max(0, player.getHealth() - damage));
  }

[paper viper]

so you know what a constructor is right?

So instead of storing the plugin instance as a singleton (which is what you are doing right now while using static), you remove the static to make it not a singleton anymore, and pass that instance around

through the constructor

For example:

public final class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {

  private MyPlugin instance;

  @Override
  public void onEnable() {
    instance = this;
    getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, new MyListener(this));
  }

}

public final class MyListener implements Listener {
  
  private final MyPlugin plugin;

  public MyListener(final MyPlugin plugin) {
    this.plugin = plugin;
  } 

  @EventHandler
  public void onDeath(final PlayerDeathEvent event) {
    plugin.doSomething ... etc
  }

}

i typed this in Discord and without IDE

so im not sure if the second line of onEnable is correct but I think it is

[burnt current]

I am not sure... I had studied OOP in Java but have never used it.

[paper viper]

you should review some java skills then

but its what is called first when an object is being instantiated

[burnt current]

ok

I'll have another look at that too. Thanks for the tip

[paper viper]

np

[severe zenith]

that works! thank you so much <3

[burnt current]

ok, so now I don't get an error in my IDE or in the console, but the stairs are still facing south, even though I set their facing to west. Do you know what I could have done wrong?

[lost matrix]

Did you set the changed BlockData back on the block?

[burnt current]

yes

Should I send the complete code again?

[lost matrix]

Sure...

[burnt current]

@EventHandler
    public void BannerListener(BlockPlaceEvent event){


        if(event.getBlockPlaced().getType() == Material.RED_BANNER) {
            Player player = event.getPlayer();
            event.setCancelled(true);
            Location location = event.getBlockPlaced().getLocation();

Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(Main.getPlugin(), () -> {
                location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().setType(BRICK_STAIRS);
                if(location.add(1,4,4).getBlock().getType() == Material.BRICK_STAIRS) {
                Stairs stairs1 = (Stairs) player.getWorld().getBlockAt()).getBlockData();
                stairs1.setFacing(BlockFace.WEST);
                player.getWorld().getBlockAt(location.add(1,4,4)).setBlockData(stairs1);
              }


                player.playSound(player.getLocation(), Sound.ENTITY_ITEM_PICKUP, 10, 29);
            }, 300);

[lost matrix]

    if (event.getBlockPlaced().getType() == Material.RED_BANNER) {
      Player player = event.getPlayer();
      event.setCancelled(true);
      Location location = event.getBlockPlaced().getLocation();
      Block relativeBlock = location.add(1, 4, 4).getBlock();

      Main.getPlugin().getServer().getScheduler().runTaskLater(Main.getPlugin(), () -> {
        relativeBlock.setType(Material.BRICK_STAIRS);
        BlockData stairData = relativeBlock.getBlockData();
        Stairs stairs = (Stairs) stairData;
        stairs.setFacing(BlockFace.WEST);
        relativeBlock.setBlockData(stairs);
        player.playSound(player.getLocation(), Sound.ENTITY_ITEM_PICKUP, 1.0F, 2.9F);
      }, 300);
    }

Cleaned it a bit up. This should work.
If you dont see changes then the stairs might already face west.

Just tested it. It works.

[burnt current]

yeah it works 🥳 thank you so much for your help 🙏

[unkempt peak]

are you sure the if statements are working?

[gilded spruce]

can anybody tell me what an instance is and what it does

[unkempt peak]

sysout inside the if statements and see if they are running

[unkempt peak]

well 1st of all you should learn java because that's simple java logic but an instance is a new object of a class

[gaunt saffron]

i sadly had to install intellij, have 2 issues i can't really solve
my plugin gave me this directory jetbrains://Idea/settings?name=Better+Comments
where are the configs? im on win10

when i use comment with line shortcut, it jumps to the next line, i don't want that...
how do i fix this?

also, where are all the settings located, i'd like same setup on multiple machines

[unkempt peak]

for example you have a class with named Car with 2 variables for color and size. In that class you could have a constructor to define those values. then to make a new car object you would say something like new Car("red", 100); that is an instance of the Car class with the color variable set to red and the size as 100

[ivory sleet]

ye basically an instance is a unit created from a class where the class acts like a blueprint

[gilded spruce]

okay ty I will try to understand that xD

[ivory sleet]

as kidalder said a new Car(...) is an instance of the class/type Car

yes types are declared in form of classes in Java

[gaunt saffron]

well screw the settings dir, it jumping to next line when i comment makes it super annoying pretty much unusable

[gilded spruce]

can anybody give me a code example from the use of an instance with the car I am too dumb to get it

[ivory sleet]

class Car {
  int size;
  public Car(int theSize) {
    size = theSize;
  }
}

//then
Car instanceOne = new Car(3);
Car instanceTwo = new Car(4);
Car instanceThree = new Car(3);

three separate instances of the class Car

despite both instanceOne and instanceThree having the same value in terms of size

they're separate instances

[gilded spruce]

im so confused hahaha i think I have to start with Hello World again

[unreal quartz]

ah yes

[gilded spruce]

but thank you

[unreal quartz]

i will take a size 1 car please

[ivory sleet]

hello world is unorthodoxly complex

[quiet ice]

You should look at FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition, much better than hello worlds

[quaint mantle]

print Sus

if the number is 69 print funny

[gaunt saffron]

please? at least some tips

[quiet ice]

see, noone uses intelliJ nowadays so you wont get help \j

I do be that sometimes though

[quaint mantle]

intellij is just better

slower, but better

[quiet ice]

yet noone can help that man?

[gilded spruce]

okay I give this one more try and ask a few questions. is "size"a variable in this case? Because why can you make an int variable that has the value "theSize"? xD bro im soooo confused

[quaint mantle]

ive never had an installation issue with intellij

[ivory sleet]

class MightyAlmost {
  Object o1;  //called a field or instance variable
  static Object o2; //called a static field or static variable

  void method(Object o3 /* called a parameter variable or just a parameter*/) {
    Object o4; //called a local variable or just variable sometimes
  } 
}``` @gilded spruce

[gilded spruce]

whats that

[quaint mantle]

yes

[ivory sleet]

its terminology for different variable types

[grim ice]

u can make size private and final right

[ivory sleet]

indeed

[grim ice]

tbh i have a new goal now

[gaunt saffron]

what do people use... peipke screamed at me for NOT using it

[grim ice]

instead of coding in spigot api

[quiet ice]

no need for the keyword spam at this point though

[grim ice]

ill stop

and move on to javadocs

[ivory sleet]

spigot api javadocs 😄

[grim ice]

ill try to learn for like a month or smth idk

[grim ice]

nu

the normal javadocs :D

[ivory sleet]

oh

there's a lot of things there

[grim ice]

will it take a year to finish>

2?

[ivory sleet]

but learn the classes in java.lang

[grim ice]

o

[ivory sleet]

thats the utterly most important ones

[grim ice]

i mean im mising on like

[quiet ice]

Well, except maybe ClassValue and co

[grim ice]

functional interfaces

[ivory sleet]

oh

[grim ice]

which i kinda understand

and uhh

principles sort of

[ivory sleet]

yeah

principles and design patterns are arguably senior level

[grim ice]

inheritance i kinda understand it but i still need more foundation

[ivory sleet]

ye

[grim ice]

idk whats more

oh yeah oop

i gotta get better at oop too

[ivory sleet]

but from my pov u've evolved quite the knowledge just lookin back like 2 months

or 1

[grim ice]

o poggers

i still suc doe lUl

[ivory sleet]

room for improvement 😄

[grim ice]

true

[quaint mantle]

// Required type declaration (class, enum, record, interface, abstract class)
// The class can be public, package private, or final
public final class Class {
    //   ^ this means the class cannot be extended
    // If the "field" is public, you can do instance.field
    // with no modifiers, (public or private), the field is public to other classes in the package
    private int i = 0;

    // i is a parameter: new Class(2)
    public Class(int i) {
        // since the two variables have the same name, you must use 'this' to assign it
        this.i = i;
    }

    // instance only method
    public void setI(int i) {
        this.i = i;
    }

    // instance-only "Getter" method
    public int getI() {
        return i;
    }
}

@gilded spruce

[ivory sleet]

Pin worthy almost

[quaint mantle]

lol

[grim ice]

why are java docs example so simple but when i see someone's example it gets so confusing

(i dont mean the one imaginedev sent btw)

[quaint mantle]

i mean

[ivory sleet]

ikr

[quaint mantle]

could ask md5 to pin it

[lost matrix]

Youll hate this:

@Data
@AllArgsConstructor
public final class Class {
  private int i = 0;
}

[grim ice]

Ms. 5

LOL

[quaint mantle]

@Data

[ivory sleet]

😶

[grim ice]

whats that

[quaint mantle]

lombok

[grim ice]

oh god

[paper viper]

Lombok isn’t friendly for beginners tho

Makes em confused

Where the hell methods

[grim ice]

yeah im not gonn a learn that soon tbh

[paper viper]

Lol

[lost matrix]

Yes ofc. Just wanted to mock conclure#

[quaint mantle]

^ pls dont use lombok in abstract classes!!!!!!

[grim ice]

LOL

[ivory sleet]

I swear lombok is a fucking cult

[lavish hemlock]

I like Lombok :)

[grim ice]

when should i come back to spigot api?

a month or

[ivory sleet]

you could do it in parallel

[lost matrix]

You can learn quite a bit by just writing a bunch of spigot plugins. Ive learned java 2 years ago and only
wrote spigot plugins for the first year.

[quaint mantle]

Lombok users:
Kotlin users:
Default java users: 🖐️ 🔨

[ivory sleet]

worst thing with lombok is yet this annotation on annotation thing

a complete disaster

[grim ice]

o

but i just feel pathetic when i talk in this channel tbh

[lost matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-brian-baumgartner-kevin-malone-few-words-waste-time-gif-4759685

[quiet ice]

A hammer is all a competent man needs

[paper viper]

Annotation abuse is honestly horrible

[grim ice]

lol

[ivory sleet]

lmao

[paper viper]

It’s so unreadable

Lol

[quaint mantle]

@heretere

@jade perch

[paper viper]

L

[grim ice]

me who writes 10k letters long staff applications:
no

[paper viper]

And also I already seen the text file

But yeah no idc that’s not going to persuade me lol

[ivory sleet]

if anything lombok dissuades anyone who might have contributed

[calm whale]

Hey, sorry but I'm back with my map problem, actually it works fine but it loads only around the 0:0, even if I select an another region 🤔
https://paste.md-5.net/icayigenac.java

Just to remind, I'm trying to prerender a map

[grim ice]

whats ternary?

[lost matrix]

Never written enterprise code i see. Get into some container like Spring or Quarkus where 90% of the code is just generate at compile time with lazy loading proxy classes and all that nonsense and where you have honestly no idea where half of your instance get injected from.

[grim ice]

its an if statement in a return thingy or what

[quiet ice]

bool ? a : b

[grim ice]

yeah but can u explain it

[quiet ice]

basically an inlined if statement

[grim ice]

oh ok

it looks cleaner than my if() return true; :(

[paper viper]

Well yes ik how it feels like to use such libraries and be confused cause you have no idea what the hell is happening internally lol

[ivory sleet]

if (x) {
  return y;
}
return z;

return x ? y : z;

[grim ice]

thxxx conclure

conclure best

[narrow furnace]

@grim ice how long have you been a beginner

at java

[grim ice]

idk

im still learning doe

[narrow furnace]

i mean usually thats the first thing and then you become intermediatw

[quiet ice]

It's not always cleaner

[quaint mantle]

return if (x) y else z

[narrow furnace]

but you are just eternally a beginner

[grim ice]

fam

no need to mock u know

[narrow furnace]

are you learning entirely through discord

[grim ice]

no

i read websites too

but thats it

[quaint mantle]

thou must read the entire html

[lost matrix]

I mean its great because this is already a fully working endpoint:

@Path("/hello")
public class GreetingResource {

    @Inject
    GreetingService service;

    @GET
    @Produces(MediaType.TEXT_PLAIN)
    @Path("/greeting/{name}")
    public String greeting(@PathParam String name) {
        return service.greeting(name);
    }

    @GET
    @Produces(MediaType.TEXT_PLAIN)
    public String hello() {
        return "hello";
    }
}

But confusing af

[ivory sleet]

[quaint mantle]

[lost matrix]

Java Enterprise is ew

[narrow furnace]

if you just took a beginner course

[paper viper]

Yeah

[narrow furnace]

.. then you wouldnt be a beginner anymore

[grim ice]

idk man

[narrow furnace]

and it would be a lot faster than asking in here for everyrhing

[grim ice]

what course

i dont pay btw

[ivory sleet]

like every intermediate course guarantees to de-beginnerify you

[narrow furnace]

i could send the first one i did if u want

[lost matrix]

If you are a student you can get this git something something student package with a ton of courses.

[grim ice]

sure

[grim ice]

uh

idk im too lazy to give them the proof

[lost matrix]

If you have an .edu email you will automatically get accepted

[grim ice]

no, my school is too bad for this shit

my school is the type of place

that people die in

some guy actually got murdered here

[lost matrix]

wtf

[ivory sleet]

sounds engaging

[lost matrix]

Are you in america?

[grim ice]

they got struck by a brick

[narrow furnace]

https://java-programming.mooc.fi/

[grim ice]

into their face

[narrow furnace]

this course is elite

[grim ice]

oh fuck

i tried that

[ivory sleet]

wth lol

[narrow furnace]

its not just in finnish btw

[ivory sleet]

nice embed desc

[narrow furnace]

bro its the best course ive ever taken i stg

[grim ice]

they have so many useless examples

they take too long on REALLY beginner stuff so they waste ur time

[narrow furnace]

ik what u mean put thats like a lot of courses

[quaint mantle]

took me 2 months to understand classes

[grim ice]

wtf?

[quaint mantle]

functions ftw

[narrow furnace]

you think they are below you until youve done the first one or two parts

then it gets to harder stuff

and harder stuff becomes easy

[grim ice]

o

ok il take ur advice

how much did it take you

to finish it

ppl told me its like 144 hours

if it is, im ready to learn all day if its gonna help me

[ivory sleet]

why 144

[paper viper]

12^2

Obviously

[narrow furnace]

in total it was like a month and a half or something

first 3 parts took 3 days tho

so it gets harder lol

[grim ice]

o

i skipped part 1.5 i think

when i was reading it

it was so boring and i wanst learning anything

[narrow furnace]

yeah that can be frustrating

[grim ice]

but r u sure javadocs wont help more than it

[ivory sleet]

I strongly advocate to learn by doing

sure u can read on the internet

but then take that into practice also 😄

[grim ice]

that means ill get bullied more for sucking :D

[narrow furnace]

yes thats what the course has you doing

it has a lot of exercises

[grim ice]

do i need to do their exercises

ew im not installing their ide or whatever

[narrow furnace]

well yes

learn by doing

[ivory sleet]

o right I tried something once and it had exercises but those were pretty meaningless, maybe yours is better

[narrow furnace]

i switched to intellij half way through so it will ve fine

[grim ice]

ok

ill try to do this website 7 hours a day first

if its too short ill go for 12

[narrow furnace]

theres a bit of reading explaining something, then one or two exercises to practice and understand it

[grim ice]

it would prob be better than the time im wasting here asking for basic stuff

[lost matrix]

You will burn out on the first day

[grim ice]

really?

[narrow furnace]

you should be able to complete it a lot faster than me if you do that i suppose

[grim ice]

i bet not, i grinded games for 16 hours a day before

i also code 14h/ day

but i always suck

[narrow furnace]

bro

sleep

[grim ice]

no

sleep is for the weak

[narrow furnace]

🙁

[grim ice]

when im good at java ill become weak sure :D

[paper viper]

I only code 3 hours a day

Play video games an hour

[narrow furnace]

lol

[paper viper]

That’s it

[grim ice]

HOW R U BETTER THAAN ME AHFUAWEFHAEFHFEAWHAWEFH

[paper viper]

Rest of day I play clarinet, play tennis

[grim ice]

i suck

[paper viper]

Do other stuff

Lmao

[hexed hatch]

Does the server currently expose Xbox gamertags for migrated players?

[grim ice]

i didnt move from my home since 3 months

i just eat code and play

im useless to society lol

@narrow furnace

wait wdym

there are only 2 parts in that website lol

[narrow furnace]

2 parts beginner and advanced

[paper viper]

I play in BYSO 😂

[narrow furnace]

each split into 7 parts

[grim ice]

i finished the beginner one tho

[narrow furnace]

so 14 total

[grim ice]

how do i stilll suck

:<

[narrow furnace]

what all 7?

[grim ice]

im a failure

[grim ice]

yes

[narrow furnace]

wow

nice

[paper viper]

Nah you aren’t

[narrow furnace]

that was like 5 minutes lmao

[grim ice]

no

[paper viper]

The more you are experienced at code the more efficient you will write code

[grim ice]

i knew the website

[grim ice]

o

i got recommended that website when i was called a clown for coding plugins without knowing basic java

pulsebeat can vouch

[ivory sleet]

wish thsi was true for me

[grim ice]

i mean i still suck

[paper viper]

I’m forced to do it cause I’m busy during the school year

Lol

[narrow furnace]

stop saying u suck then

[ivory sleet]

yeee

[narrow furnace]

"the moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease forever to be able to do it"

wisdom right there

[grim ice]

nah

ill get clowned on if i say im good :D

[paper viper]

Btw you should always have an open mind if you are a beginner

Don’t argue with us like last time like that cause we are trying to help you

Lol

[grim ice]

i w a s n t

e

wait what the fuck

this mooc thingy is fucked up

why do they teach about npe and null only at the end of Java Programming I

wtf

i mean its free so

[narrow furnace]

wait so have u done all of java programming 1?

cos thats what i meant by the first 7 parts

[grim ice]

yep and a bit of java programming 2

[narrow furnace]

damn nice

[grim ice]

i mean part 7 i dont understand a few stuff in it

but i understand stuff in 8 and 9

which kinda triggers me lmfao

theyre talking about hashmaps

at like

part 9 or 8

[narrow furnace]

lmao

well it is a beginner course so

[grim ice]

i prob will finsih it in a week if i wanna completely understand it

bro

im fucking done

@narrow furnace they tell u about packages and what "import" means at part 11

what the actual fuck bro

this should be in part 1?

[opal juniper]

import after hash maps

we love to see it

[grim ice]

lmao

[lavish hemlock]

sintax