help-development

[eternal night]

LMAO

this is a first

I have never met someone that actually translated their codebase

I love it

[sage depot]

LOL

i was watching you guys

[weary geyser]

😐

[wraith rapids]

TOTALEN KRIEG

[eternal night]

glad to see gecko knows as much about todays political landscape as he does about java code :>

[sage swift]

?ban @sage swift

[sage depot]

yes

[sage depot]

how 2 ban your self

1. you cant

2. just break a rule

[wraith rapids]

i ran a server called nazicraft for 2 years

[sage depot]

3. or just leave

[burnt current]

is noted. but that doesn't matter now. Can anyone help me with this?

[sage swift]

bassed

trebled

[eternal night]

wild version of based xD

[sage swift]

how many furnaces did it have

[sage depot]

-farts-

[sage swift]

smells u

kisses u lovingly

[eternal night]

Gecko is really trying to cosplay a reddit mod

[sage swift]

so much

[granite stirrup]

KK

[wraith rapids]

6 million

one for each player

[proud basin]

How can I stop players from doing /ver then hitting tab

[burnt current]

Now can someone help me with this?

[wraith rapids]

i don't think you need reflection for that to begin with

i don't remember how you get it

search ping and latency in the javadocs

do you expect me to go on the javadocs and search it for you

[eternal night]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#getPing()

like

bruh

there is a search bar

😂

you just smash your head onto your keyboard

and find what you need

[dusty herald]

I think that NMS would be better to receive latency anyways

[worldly ingot]

wat

[eternal night]

the fuck

[wraith rapids]

bukkit latency and nms latency are the same

[worldly ingot]

There's API for it. It was added in 1.16.5

[dusty herald]

For these reasons it should not be used for anti-cheat purposes.

[wraith rapids]

both are based on the shitty keepalive packet system and are inaccurate as shit

[eternal night]

smh NMS is API anyway now 🙂 Mini-confirmed

[wraith rapids]

you'll want to use actual pinging or looking at other packets to get the real latency

[eternal night]

why are you compiling with java 16

when targetting java 8 xD

and running a java 8 server

[wraith rapids]

MUH RECORDS

[granite stirrup]

why cant u use it for anticheat purposes XD

[wraith rapids]

you can, but it will be shit

[crude axle]

Both the parent POM and the two preceeding modules builds successfully

[wraith rapids]

it is entirely based on the keepalive packets from the player

[crude axle]

And they target 1.8 too

[wraith rapids]

which any standard cheat client can spoof or delay at will

[granite stirrup]

lol

[wraith rapids]

slightly more manageable on purpur, as they have an option for alternative keepalive

but still not good for anticheats, as they can still be delayed by up to 30 seconds without repercussion

[eternal night]

Welp /shrug no clue what is failing.

[granite stirrup]

we need a getPing without it using packets

thing is if they using packets for getPing why no packet api yet

bruhhh

[eternal night]

packet api is stupid xD

[granite stirrup]

we need a PacketAPI for spigot

[eternal night]

we really do not

[quiet ice]

It is severely version dependent

[granite stirrup]

we need to listen and use and stuff for packets

[granite stirrup]

yes we do

[wraith rapids]

because getPing does not specify that it uses packets

[eternal night]

fam, why are you using an API in the first place

[quiet ice]

^

[wraith rapids]

that it uses packets under the hood is an implementation detail

[eternal night]

if you are just gonna break on every impl update

[wraith rapids]

and not part of the api

the api contract is just that it returns a poor approximation of the player's ping

[eternal night]

similar to how sendBlockChange uses packets under the hood but doesn't expose it to the API

[quiet ice]

heck, half the server uses packets under the hood

[granite stirrup]

wE need packets

:)

[wraith rapids]

literally everything uses packets if you dig far enough

[eternal night]

5head

[wraith rapids]

anything that interacts with a player, anyway

[granite stirrup]

yeah but to use them u need to use nms

[wraith rapids]

you don't even know what a packet is

stop arguing about this

[granite stirrup]

theres no sending vanilla packets in spigot

:(

[eternal night]

fam. You do not seem to understand what an API is supposed to do

it is an abstraction layer

[wraith rapids]

or what packets are

[eternal night]

abstraction

[quiet ice]

Packets are severely version dependent and not something that will EVER be added to spigot API

If a packet is removed ABI is broken and you have a plugin that borks

[granite stirrup]

well atleast they should add so u can hide a entity from a entity

lol

[quiet ice]

Md has worked hard on avoiding this

[eternal night]

PR it

[wraith rapids]

that could be supposedly added in api

[granite stirrup]

i would but idk how to use .patch files

[wraith rapids]

but i doubt it ever will

[quiet ice]

isn't that already possible?

[eternal night]

tho hiding an entity from another

[wraith rapids]

seems like a very fringe need to have and most would just use protocollib

[granite stirrup]

not without nms no

[eternal night]

doesn't need to involve packets

[wraith rapids]

no the hiding is for players

[eternal night]

yea

but like, hiding an entity from another seems like a pathfinding thing

not a packet thing

[quiet ice]

But you wouldn't send packets to random entities

[granite stirrup]

u can hide entitys from players using packets

[granite stirrup]

i meant players

hide entity and show entity to and from player

we need that to be a feature

[ivory sleet]

[eternal night]

Don't see a reason why "hide entities from players" isn't a possible API addition

go for it

[wraith rapids]

when I get to working on my farm optimizer plugin, i'll give clientside protocol fucknuggetry entities a try

why have entities on the server when the client can do all of the work

[eternal night]

only thing you gotta find out how to handle is entities going out of scope

[wraith rapids]

of course they would need to move about and do a little bit of things or they'd just look dead

[granite stirrup]

i cant idk how to all i know is u use a packet to do it also idk how to use patch files

[quiet ice]

make it performant though, this can easily kill performance

[wraith rapids]

but that can be done asynchronously probably

[mortal hare]

        this.itemStacks = new ItemStack[type.getSize()];
        this.elements = new GUIElement[type.getSize()];
        ItemStack itemStack = airElement.getItemStack();
        for (int i = this.itemStacks.length; --i > -1;) {
            this.itemStacks[i] = itemStack;
        }
        System.out.println(this.itemStacks.toString());

why this doesnt work

it should fill the array

[eternal night]

if you understand packets and the network stack you should be okay to learn how to use patches

[mortal hare]

with items but all it does

it sets the first index

[quiet ice]

And I do not think that you need patches for that if it is possible via packets already

[mortal hare]

while type.getSize() is 9

[eternal night]

this is the weirdest forloop setup I have ever seen

[wraith rapids]

consider using a less illegible for loop

[eternal night]

for a "fill entire array"

[wraith rapids]

for (int i = this.itemstacks.length - 1;i >= 0;i--)

[mortal hare]

it doesnt require third operation

im used to it

[wraith rapids]

the third operation makes it more legible

[quiet ice]

and has no difference on performance

And isn't there an hotspot intrinsic Arrays.fill?

[eternal night]

I think so

[mortal hare]

i just want to implement it manually, that's not the problem

problem is

it for loops properly

but

it doesnt

[wraith rapids]

why are you filling it from the end to the beginning if you're putting the same element in each index

[eternal night]

legit just Arrays.fill(myObjArray, objInstance)

[mortal hare]

store the same reference in differemnt indices

[wraith rapids]

just Arrays.fill

[mortal hare]

ik

i want to do it manually this time

[quiet ice]

clone it?

[wraith rapids]

stop being gay

[eternal night]

legit no reason to do it yourself 😂

[mortal hare]

ik

i checked the code

its the same

[quiet ice]

It is not

[mortal hare]

i just want it to know why this doesnt work

[quiet ice]

Arrays.fill is hotspot intrinsic

[eternal night]

Well, most certainly not the same as your for loop shit

[quiet ice]

It will always perform better

[wraith rapids]

hotpot intrinsic means that the jvm impl for a specific environment may have an environment-specific implementation for that, which may perform faster

[mortal hare]

rude

i just wanted to find out why this doesnt work

[wraith rapids]

it should

[mortal hare]

not to get bullied for writing for loop ffs

[quiet ice]

yea sure, but it is still worth it

[eternal night]

since when is fill even hotspot intrinsic tho

[wraith rapids]

but I can't read your for loop

so i can't help you

[quiet ice]

Is your issue that you are using the same instance?

[mortal hare]

why it doesnt set the same reference

[quiet ice]

And not an Object#clone?

[mortal hare]

doesnt it work

like pointers

[wraith rapids]

what are we even talking about

[mortal hare]

Reference

[eternal night]

c++ people trying java

[mortal hare]

is reference

it should add

reference to every index

[wraith rapids]

what is the intended behaviour

and what is the actual behaviour

[mortal hare]

the same reference

[wraith rapids]

describe concretely

[mortal hare]

Fill the array with the same reference of object

[wraith rapids]

and how are you determining that this does not happen

[eternal night]

are you sure your type length isn't fucked up

[quiet ice]

        for (int i = this.itemStacks.length; --i > -1;) {
            this.itemStacks[i] = itemStack;
            if (this.itemStacks[i] != itemStack) {
              // Impossible
            }
        }

[mortal hare]

i just checked it, i is iterating backwards

[quiet ice]

if that is what you are asking

[mortal hare]

9 times

[wraith rapids]

how do you determine that it works incorrectly

[mortal hare]

system.out.println(Array.toString()) returns empty braces

[wraith rapids]

arrays do not implement tostring

use Arrays.toString(array)

empty braces would indicate that the length is 0

[mortal hare]

then why tf it does compile

[eternal night]

^^ else it would be null

[mortal hare]

if it doesnt have

that

[eternal night]

it is an object fam

they all have toString

just nothing useful afaik

[wraith rapids]

yes, it doesn't implement it

it inherits the Object implementation of it

[mystic tartan]

Is it possible to teleport people to other worlds when they join the server, it's just not tp'ing me. Do I need to set a runnable to run after a second or something?

[mortal hare]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-huh-what-confused-unsure-gif-4751998

[wraith rapids]

namely spewing out fucking gibberish

regardless, [] indicates a 0 length array

[null,null] would be an array with 2 null elements

[quiet ice]

In java, almost everything is an object

Except primitives

[mortal hare]

ik

[wraith rapids]

inventory.getSize() might return the number of filled slots in the inventory

doublecheck that

[eternal night]

lets hope that changes soon 🙂

where is project valhalla

[wraith rapids]

that is, an empty inventory would have a size of 0

[eternal night]

when I need it

[quiet ice]

And they support toString, the implementation of toString on arrays is just []

[mortal hare]

that's not an inventory

that's an primitive array

with object references in it

[wraith rapids]

i didn't have the effort to scroll up

yes, but you are constructing it from what

new ItemStack[type.getSize()];

[mortal hare]

that's a enum

class

[quiet ice]

#help-development message

[mortal hare]

of integer data

[wraith rapids]

then the fucking enum has 0 elements i guess

[mortal hare]

it doesnt

[wraith rapids]

i don't know but your array is 0 length

[mortal hare]

it iterates 9 times

as it should

🙃

[wraith rapids]

anyhow

are you using Arrays.toString

[quiet ice]

according to the code, no

He is using Object#toString

[wraith rapids]

yeah, that's why I asked

he might have changed it later after I told him about it

based on how he's still saying it doesn't work, he either did and it still doesn't work, or he ignored me

[mortal hare]

i didn't compiled it yet

on Arrays

util class yet

ok it works

i guess

[quiet ice]

There is something wrong with your way of debugging if you think that it does not work

[mortal hare]

i thought that array was not an actual object

[wraith rapids]

it is

[mortal hare]

like in c array is a basically pointer but with syntax sugar

[wraith rapids]

arrays are sort of special, but they are still objects

they have their own classes

and so on

does intellij have a good way of finding and removing text matches from all files in the project

i need to remove like 200 stouts scattered in random ass files

[mortal hare]

there is some sort of search in files function

but i dont remember the hotkey

i'd rather powerup sublime

and just use replace in all files

function there

[granite stirrup]

k back

[quiet ice]

Good ol CLI will also do it

[cold pawn]

Im trying to use text component to get a players chosen name and display it as there name but you can hover over it and see there user, how would I go about doing that if its even possible at all?

[mortal hare]

paper forks or spigot

[cold pawn]

spigot

[wraith rapids]

scrub

[burnt current]

short question: Is it possible to give an invisibility effect to arrows shot by launchProjectile(), add particles and query if the arrow hits a player?

[mortal hare]

send packet of entity destroy with entity id in it

that's my solution

[mortal hare]

#Component.setHoverEvent(HoverEvent.Action.SHOW_TEXT, new TextComponent("Your text"));

[burnt current]

and how can you do that? Sorry for this question, but I am still quite a beginner as far as spigot coding is concerned.

[mortal hare]

well i would use protocollib

but i don't know how should i explain...

[mortal hare]

try it. edited

[eternal oxide]

This is not beginner coding. Far beyond your experience I'm afraid.

[mortal hare]

but maybe arrow can have invisiblity effect

someone try it

[cold pawn]

Ah ok

[mortal hare]

add invisibility potion with no particles effect

oh nvm

that's not

what its meant to do

that's for arrows hit potion effect

strangely

i dont see a method

to set potion effect type for an entity

that's weird

or im blind

[sacred bone]

hey, i dont know if im having a crisis but i can seem to use the playerConnection field from the getHandle() in 1.17 to send packets to players, am i missing something? ive looked around but i cant find anything about it, i used Arrays.stream(players).forEach(p -> ((CraftPlayer) p).playerConnection.sendPacket(packet)); in previous versions, however i get this error now, does anyone know the new way?

[mortal hare]

mapped field have been changed i guess

[visual tide]

anyone know why papi is saying "failed to register expansion! with every one i try?

[mortal hare]

maybe extension API was written for the older version of PAPI

[visual tide]

hm

[burnt current]

ok too bad. Thanks anyway

[mortal hare]

yep

only living entities have potion effects

sadly

and some

[foggy bough]

I have this ```java
public void onHoe(PlayerInteractEvent e) {

    Player player = e.getPlayer();
    if() {
        
    }
    
}``` how can I check if a hoe has been used?

[mortal hare]

other ones

[cold pawn]

Like this?

[sacred bone]

yup, unfortunately i cant seem to find the new way:( imma have another look around

[mortal hare]

probably, i use Adventure API in paper so don't remember it quite properly

[foggy bough]

anyone?

[mortal hare]

wait

that should be new TextComponent()

not new Text()

if its not extended

the class should be derived from BaseComponent

in order for this to work

[quaint mantle]

Call .getHandle? Maybe

Unless that’s not a thing anymore lol

[mortal hare]

also thanks for clearance i didn't knew that JVM has better implementations for some OS'es.

i use Array fill now, so ok 😄 I just needed to know why it didn't worked in the first place

[wraith rapids]

f.e the Math.sqrt method is hotspot intrinsic

by default it delegates to StrictMath.sqrt

which then calculates it iteratively

but the JVM could, if the system's instruction set supports it, just delegate it to the underlying processor in a single instruction

@HotSpotIntrinsicCandidate
    public static double sqrt(double a) {
        return StrictMath.sqrt(a); // default impl. delegates to StrictMath
                                   // Note that hardware sqrt instructions
                                   // frequently can be directly used by JITs
                                   // and should be much faster than doing
                                   // Math.sqrt in software.
    }

[mortal hare]

yea ik rn

i wonder is there a quick_sqrt() implementation

[sage ferry]

Check if the material is a hoe

[mortal hare]

with 1% error

[wraith rapids]

i don't remember there being one

[eternal night]

Yeah don't think jdk has its own quake fast inverse

[mortal hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8u_k2LIZyo

[eternal night]

Yea, but I mean the java impl of that is rather straight forward xD

tho slower than the c one

because java doesn't allow for the fun pointer casting

[wraith rapids]

strictmath sqrt is native

[eternal night]

I mean, native doesn't make it faster than fast inverse sqrt

[wraith rapids]

definitely not

but it could be written in c

[eternal night]

oh it most certainly is o.O

hotspot is mainly c isn't it

[wraith rapids]

myeah

[quiet ice]

Nope

[eternal night]

c++ ?

[quiet ice]

They are writing more and more stuff in java actually

[wraith rapids]

GRRRAAAAALLL

[eternal night]

in hotspot ?

that is graal fam

[quiet ice]

even hotspot reduces the amount of c code

[sharp bough]

random programming videos are the onnly thing keeping me alive

thannk you

[eternal night]

Ah. Well I live for j9 and j9 only

[wraith rapids]

my slimefun addon is now fully reload compatible

jesus christ that was painful

[eternal night]

🥳

[wraith rapids]

hard to rewrite a part of slimefun to get it to work cause sf is dumb

apparently i'm infringing their license or something now because I haven't released my modifications publicly

[quiet ice]

I thought you hated sf by heart

[wraith rapids]

i did

and i do

my hatred for it is fucking incandescent

[quiet ice]

for as long as noone realises the difference, noone can blame you there.

[wraith rapids]

i'm openly advertising it

fuck them and fuck their license

[quiet ice]

Excluding the fact that bukkit is GPL

[wraith rapids]

like, i skimmed over their license and from what I can tell I don't need to release my modifications to the public unless I distribute the modified product

[quiet ice]

isn't that basically the GPL

[wraith rapids]

it is yeah

[digital rain]

so have you found smth? if not thats ok but tell me, bc id like to have this off my head

[wraith rapids]

but there is a variant of gpl that requires you to publish your modifications even if you don't distribute

iirc, anyway

[quiet ice]

AGPL?

[wraith rapids]

i'm not a license or legal guy

[paper olive]

if you don't distribute how do they know

[wraith rapids]

because i told them

[quiet ice]

AGPL is fucking stupid if you ask me

[wraith rapids]

or, well, I told a guy

and the guy told them

[paper olive]

good going

[wraith rapids]

everybody on my server and the community around it hates slimefun

i keep a blog about how shit it is

so invariably people will go to their discord incited by my hatred to tell them they suck

[hexed hatch]

I haven't looked but I wasn't able to find that plugin last I looked for it, I think it's lost

But I'll look after I get done with something I'm working on and get back to you

[wraith rapids]

GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE
Version 3, 29 June 2007
it's not even AGPL

fucks were talking out of their ass

[hexed hatch]

sounds like a sexy server 😩

[digital rain]

nah thats alright

anyways thnaks for the effort

[sacred bone]

sorry that was my bad, i did try usign getHandle(), however still the same :C

[chrome beacon]

b

Field names are no longer mapped by default

playerConnection is the field b

[wraith rapids]

you're no longer pink

did you run out of money

[chrome beacon]

Lmao I got gifted that

[sacred bone]

just found that a minute ago, thank you so much !

[crude axle]

Tried changing source and target from 1.8 to 16. Same issue occurs

[vale cradle]

ma man

[crude axle]

I also re-ordered how each module is compiled. It only happens to that one

[opal juniper]

NNYa what is ur server

I would like to know

[wraith rapids]

i don't spread that around

[opal juniper]

Is it hypixel

[wraith rapids]

maybe

[opal juniper]

Omg you are famous

[wraith rapids]

i occasionally discuss personal-ish shit in the community so I don't want random ass "pls teach me java" people from these discords there

[opal juniper]

My man runs the hive

Fair fair

[wraith rapids]

i feel like i've had this exact exchange before

down to calling hypickle the hive

it was on paper though i think

[opal juniper]

How large if you don’t mind me asking- like
~50
~100

100

Lmao

[wraith rapids]

50 seems about right

it's not big

[opal juniper]

Cool man

[wraith rapids]

i don't really have effort for big things

it runs on some shit tier shared host

[opal juniper]

I mean - 50 ain’t bad at all

[wraith rapids]

not concurrent, but active users

[opal juniper]

Nice work

Yeah I get ya

[noble glade]

how do i make a sword that summons lightnight where my cursor is when i block like in hypixal skyblock

[wraith rapids]

hypickle hypickle

everybody's after the pickle

[noble glade]

i am gona use for my private smp

[opal juniper]

High pickle down

Listen for some event
Get the location
Summon the lighting

It’s really that simple

[noble glade]

is there a command for that cuz im dumb

[opal juniper]

A command?

[noble glade]

yeah

or plugin

im very stupid

[opal juniper]

I mean ur in #help-development so I assumed I were tryna write it

[vale cradle]

It's very specific, I think you'd need to create one

[opal juniper]

^^

[noble glade]

how does hypickel d o it

[opal juniper]

Lmao

[wraith rapids]

with code

[vale cradle]

who knows dude?

[vale cradle]

But there's a way to

[opal juniper]

The only way with spigot is to use the method isBlocking() under humanEntity afaik

I don’t know of an event

[wraith rapids]

you can't block with swords anyway

unless you're a 1.8 plebian

[opal juniper]

I imagine

He is a pickle admirer

[wraith rapids]

a pickle warrior

[noble glade]

yes

[opal juniper]

[noble glade]

i eat the pickles on my mcdonalds cheeseburger

[dusty herald]

who doesn't

[opal juniper]

Yuck

[dusty herald]

👀

[opal juniper]

I hate pickles

[dusty herald]

reminds me that I had a burger that had burnt onions yesterday and that's probably the best thing i've had all year

i ate it with chic fil a sauce

[opal juniper]

Smh

[dusty herald]

shhh

[quaint mantle]

pickles 🤮

[wraith rapids]

burnt things are good things

[dusty herald]

burnt bread too

[opal juniper]

Uk feels bad man

[wraith rapids]

carcinogens are spicy

[dusty herald]

really?

i had no idea

[wraith rapids]

i literally eat coal

[opal juniper]

I love the feeling of lung cancer - oooh it tickles

[wraith rapids]

wash it down with gasoline

[noble glade]

but help

i want the lightning sowrd

[opal juniper]

Mother - please supply me with a nutritious source of pure carbon

[opal juniper]

Are u on 1.8

[noble glade]

yes

[opal juniper]

Ok

So find a copy of the 1.8 jd

And get reading

[noble glade]

what

im stupid remember

[opal juniper]

Have you ever coded before?

[noble glade]

no

im stupid

just lightning sword go BBRRRRRRBRNRBRNRRN

[wraith rapids]

you need to ask in the stupid channel

aka help-serbur

[opal juniper]

Ohhh I assumed cause you were in help dev you at least had an ide

[noble glade]

i dud

i ded ask

[dusty herald]

netbeans

[noble glade]

eberywun in tere is dumb

[wraith rapids]

then you need to wait for your fellow stupids to answer

[opal juniper]

Your idea is very specific

[wraith rapids]

this channel is for cool kids only

[noble glade]

ok

so i just want a sword that when i block it spawns lightning at my cursor

[opal juniper]

So find some1 that will code it for you or learn Java and then come back

[noble glade]

AAAAAA

code it for me and ill pay you in

vbucks

[opal juniper]

Nah I’m good

It’s nothing personal

[wraith rapids]

pay me in 5 star reviews and I may consider it

[opal juniper]

But I just have a vendetta against 1.8

[noble glade]

ok

alright so how do i 5 star you

[opal juniper]

On Yelp

Or tripadvisor

[noble glade]

oOka

oka

[wraith rapids]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/villager-lobotomizatornator.83355/

gib 5 🌟

[opal juniper]

What the actual fuck

[wraith rapids]

yes, i have a public plugin

exactly one

[opal juniper]

First of all I think I had a stroke reading the title

[wraith rapids]

i forgot about it for like months and paper changed shit under me so i got a bunch of negative reviews

[vale cradle]

lmao

[noble glade]

so do i just go into the comment thing and say good job now ligthning sword go brrr

[opal juniper]

No

[wraith rapids]

download it, throw it in the recycle bin and give it a 5 star review

feel free to say that you got paid to review

[opal juniper]

Just say good job - keep up the good work u are a very cool man

Oh

Nvm then

[wraith rapids]

there are already 2 or 3 reviews saying they got paid to review

[opal juniper]

I don’t know what it is but my plugins always get exactly 1 x 5 star

(Having only made 3)

[wraith rapids]

all of my reviews are 5 stars

except for like 2 or 3 people complaining about it not being open source

and another 2 or 3 complaining about it blowing the fuck up when paper changed shit

[opal juniper]

Yeah fair

[noble glade]

it wont let me

[opal juniper]

Did I hear correctly that paper are getting rid of destroytokyo

[opal juniper]

You have to download it

[sweet sun]

Hi, my friend wants to learn Java-Spigot but he doesn't know where to start?

anyone that have good tuts or tips?

[opal juniper]

Do they know Java?

[sweet sun]

a little

[noble glade]

i did

[opal juniper]

Well probs a yt tutorial then I guess

[sweet sun]

which one for Java is good?

[opal juniper]

No clue mate

There is this

?learnjava

[undone axle]

Here are some links to get you started on learning Java:

• https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
• https://www.sololearn.com/learning/1068
• https://www.learnjavaonline.org/
• https://programmingbydoing.com/
• https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/java/index.html

The last one is the only official one, however some of those concepts assume that you already know a bit about programming.

[opal juniper]

For java stuff

[sweet sun]

thnx

and spigot stuuf?

[opal juniper]

But spigot api is mostly yt tutorials

[sweet sun]

?learnspigot

doesnt work

[opal juniper]

There isn’t one

But spigot api is mostly yt tutorials

[wraith rapids]

i dunno, I haven't really been to paper recently

i have a bunch of alts there still but I just haven't been feeling like it

[noble glade]

done did boom brrr

[wraith rapids]

it might be the fucking rainbows

[noble glade]

made the godamn review

[opal juniper]

Yea

[eternal oxide]

I stear clear of rainbows

[noble glade]

fungusinmyturd

is my user

[wraith rapids]

did you know

the pride rainbow has 6 colors

[opal juniper]

I did not

[wraith rapids]

in the bible the number 7 represents perfection and completeness

[noble glade]

nnnnnnytahrhjahr

[wraith rapids]

the number 6 represents imperfection and imitation

[opal juniper]

Stop there

No

[wraith rapids]

666 is the number of the beast

[opal juniper]

You went too far

Stop

[wraith rapids]

god creates

satan imitates

[noble glade]

NNYaKNpGms0eUVpiSdHx

NNYaKNpGms0eUVpiSdHx i made the plugin

[wraith rapids]

pride is the first of the 7 deadly sins

you are all literally worshipping satan

[opal juniper]

It’s too late

[noble glade]

NNYaKNpGms0eUVpiSdHx i mean i made the thing

NNYaKNpGms0eUVpiSdHx the reviev now make liaghtning sword go brrr!11!11

[wraith rapids]

you can probably do it with mycommand or something

[opal juniper]

Knowing NNYa he is not gonna code that for you

[noble glade]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[wraith rapids]

i might teach you java though

[opal juniper]

And I don’t know him

[noble glade]

i just want a sword brr thing

pls

[wraith rapids]

start with installing the intellij ide

[opal juniper]

Lmaoooooooo

[vale cradle]

kek

[noble glade]

intellij idea??

[wraith rapids]

yeees

[noble glade]

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

[opal juniper]

This is hopeless

[noble glade]

i want sowrd go brr

[wraith rapids]

anyway

yall need jesus

[noble glade]

not spend 8 hor infpornt of computr coding sord

i hab schol

more exam

[wraith rapids]

ask your teacher to write it for you

[opal juniper]

Fiverr

[noble glade]

im poor

i sell drugs for money

[vale cradle]

yikes

[wraith rapids]

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/lightning-sword.18913/

[vale cradle]

well, ye

[wraith rapids]

this one strikes yourself with lightning when blocking

that's close enough

can't block with swords since 1.9 so i'd guess yes

[vale cradle]

don't think so, you can't block in 1.15

version where the plugin claims to be native

[wraith rapids]

it literally says 'blocking with the sword' in the description though

[versed violet]

Guys, do you know if Kotlin is worth learning?

[wraith rapids]

are you a furry

[opal juniper]

That’s dumb

[vale cradle]

Well, sort of

[wraith rapids]

kotlin is not worth learning no

[opal juniper]

Yeah I think so

[wraith rapids]

kotlin is gayyy

[vale cradle]

why?

[opal juniper]

I would like to learn it

[wraith rapids]

because i say so

[vale cradle]

I would say it's totally worth

don't trust him kek

[versed violet]

Alright 👍

[compact haven]

Kotlin isn't really worth it just for spigot development

But if you do other stuff by all means

[opal juniper]

Wait Cafebabe is python

Lmaoooo

I didn’t expect that

[vale cradle]

Why not?

[sweet sun]

whats has to be next the x?

[opal juniper]

Well what does the sum mean

[sweet sun]

1s okay?

[vale cradle]

mhm

[opal juniper]

Sum = +
Product = *

[visual tide]

division = /

subtraction = -

and mod = %

[wraith rapids]

lshift, logical rshift, arithmetic rshift

negation, inversion

sadly java doesn't have rotation

[quaint mantle]

Lol nothing wrong with using kotlin

For spigot stuff :/

[granite stirrup]

java is better

[quaint mantle]

How what?

Give me some logical reasoning

[granite stirrup]

idk

[quaint mantle]

Yea so don’t say that lol

[granite stirrup]

but i think its better

[quaint mantle]

You don’t even know how and you definitely don’t know kotlin then. So your statement means nothing

[granite stirrup]

well yeah might of never used kotlin but i dont think i want to use it isnt it just a modified version of java

[quaint mantle]

That has to be the most retarded thing I’ve heard today.

Just cause it compiles to jvm doesent make it a modified version of java. It has its own uses. If you’re coding your kotlin to look like java then there’s a problem

[granite stirrup]

i dont use kotlin

lol

[quaint mantle]

Yea so don’t say java is better?

[granite stirrup]

i dont think i would ever use it really

[granite stirrup]

cross-language tho isnt better

[quaint mantle]

You probably shouldn’t if you’re thinking like that lol.

Cross language?

[granite stirrup]

yeah it compiles to different languages right

[quaint mantle]

I don't get why you need to start a conversation about this, if he prefers Java and its better in his opinion let the man be.

(Eventho kotlin is better imo if you know how to use it)

When somebody is claiming java is better when they don’t know a single thing about the language there claiming against it’s annoying

And they should learn to not speak

[hybrid spoke]

kotlin > java

but kotlin also == java

[granite stirrup]

oh i do not like the kotlin for methods lol this looks like python fun main() { println("Hello World") }

[hybrid spoke]

but its fun to do that

:D:D

[quaint mantle]

What’s bad about that?

[granite stirrup]

uh i just feel like fun doesnt describe what it is much

[hexed hatch]

Function

[quaint mantle]

You must not have a brain then

Obviously it’s a function?

[granite stirrup]

well yeah but i like using java

i like the void

[quaint mantle]

That’s a stupid reason to chose a language over another

Kotlin has extensions which are pretty useful

[granite stirrup]

kk but i have gotten so used to typing java if i started typing in kotlin i probs type java code XD

[quaint mantle]

You should stick to java for a while tbh

[wraith rapids]

from what i've seen the lines of java you've written can probably be counted with the digits of a single hand

[granite stirrup]

also i hate when u have no ; at the end of the line

[quaint mantle]

???

[wraith rapids]

there's no need to listen to him pink harambe

[granite stirrup]

i like the ; at the end of the line

[wraith rapids]

he just says random shit

[quaint mantle]

Yea this guys a disgrace to programming LOL

[wraith rapids]

like 1.14 performs better than 1.16

[hexed hatch]

A word of advice idk: maybe don’t express opinions on things you have very limited understanding of

[granite stirrup]

what just personal opinion

[hybrid spoke]

1.14 is unstable af

[wraith rapids]

or packets need to be part of the bukkit api

[quaint mantle]

You can still use ; btw

I’d you want to put things on the same line

[granite stirrup]

it didnt say on the website

[quaint mantle]

And you know where your line ends already? Why’s the colon useful

Unless you have two lines of code on the same line, then you can separate it with a ; lol

[wraith rapids]

the colon is where the shit comes out from

[granite stirrup]

um it kinda helps to know when the line ends for my self....

i sometimes forgot when line ends

[quaint mantle]

Lol it doesent end at the end of the line or anythinf

[hybrid spoke]

if there is no ; a will end it

[granite stirrup]

alr i just too used to java

[quaint mantle]

So that’s why you think kotlins bad?

[granite stirrup]

i like the ; at the end of the line lol

[quaint mantle]

Cause you’re used to java

[granite stirrup]

yeah pretty much why would i need something that can compile to java if i could Just use java

[quaint mantle]

You still haven’t said anything valid as to why Java’s better?

[wraith rapids]

java is marginally less gay

[quaint mantle]

So idk why you keep saying retarded shit.

[granite stirrup]

its mostly cuz i like the syntax better

[quaint mantle]

Kotlin doesent have to compile to jvm

That’s just if that’s how you chose to use it

[granite stirrup]

eh but does kotlin even support maven?

[wraith rapids]

lol

[quaint mantle]

Nah dude kotlin doesent support maven

[wraith rapids]

you need to use ant

for kotlin

[granite stirrup]

eh i like using maven with java

[cold heron]

gradle?

[granite stirrup]

it helps with installing libs and shit

[quaint mantle]

Yea you can’t use maven with kotlin dude fs

[vast sapphire]

tf is kotlin? i haven't touched it

[granite stirrup]

ew no

[hybrid spoke]

you dont even know how maven works

[quaint mantle]

Lol bro ofc you can fucking use maven with kotlin

[cold heron]

man says ew to gradle and uses ant

[quaint mantle]

Gradle kts is the best imo

[granite stirrup]

gradle is legit json but worser

[quaint mantle]

What?

[granite stirrup]

it just look like json to me

[wraith rapids]

lol

i'm dying

[cold heron]

do you know what json looks like

[granite stirrup]

yes

[quaint mantle]

This guy has to be meming

[wraith rapids]

he's not

[quaint mantle]

He’s actually stupid 😂

[wraith rapids]

or if he is he's really fucking persistent about it

[vast sapphire]

i code my minecraft plugins in lua like all the cool kids, i haven't really gotten anywhere but yeha

[granite stirrup]

  "json": {
    "some_json": "lol",
    "lol": "test"
  },
  "idk": {
    "lol": "test"
  }
}```

[quaint mantle]

@wraith rapids like it’s kinda mind blowing the shit he’s saying. That he has to be meming

[wraith rapids]

i'm on the fence

[granite stirrup]

thats json but i think cuz theres alot of brackets and shit in gradle it just looks like json

[hybrid spoke]

so java also looks like json?

[wraith rapids]

based

[granite stirrup]

no... gradle is legit all brackets almost

[quaint mantle]

Yea bro you code in brackets

In gradle

[granite stirrup]

eh idk i just think gradle is to complex

[quaint mantle]

I believe it you don’t even understand maven

[granite stirrup]

i code in intellij

[wraith rapids]

meanwhile in java
new HashMap<>(){ @Override public Set<Entry<K,V>> entrySet() {...}}

no brackets here

of any kind

[granite stirrup]

k just forgot about what i said then

idc anymore

lol

[quaint mantle]

Yea you should take back everything you said it’s so idiotic

[granite stirrup]

but im not using kotlin

[wraith rapids]

good

[hybrid spoke]

thats on you

[wraith rapids]

kotlin is gay

[granite stirrup]

i just dont like the syntax...

[wraith rapids]

see the difference between you and me is that you have poor reasons for disliking kotlin

i, on the other hand I have no reason to dislike it

I just do

[quaint mantle]

Like if he came to me with logical reasoning. I’d respect his opinion lol

[granite stirrup]

i just dont like the syntax

[quaint mantle]

The syntax that you just learned? In about 2 min from the kotlin website

[granite stirrup]

also about gradle is pretty complicated and hard to setup also idk i just dont like it much not very user friendly

[quaint mantle]

Very user friendly imo

[granite stirrup]

that was legit a helloworld program thats easy to learn lol

[wraith rapids]

i also don't like gradle

for no particular reason

[quaint mantle]

It’s much quicker as well in comparison to maven after the first build

[wraith rapids]

myes

[granite stirrup]

its not as user friendly/beginner friendly than maven

[wraith rapids]

i should switch to gradle

as it's better

[granite stirrup]

who cares about speed tho

[quaint mantle]

I do

[granite stirrup]

i dont

just as long as it compiles

im alright

[wraith rapids]

i've been compiling this 76 source file project for 8 minutes

[versed violet]

What's even difference between them

[quaint mantle]

I’d rather sit there for half a second waiting for my compile. Instead of 10 seconds

[wraith rapids]

i'd enjoy some extra speed

[quaint mantle]

You should use gradle kts then it’s mad easy

[wraith rapids]

i know

[granite stirrup]

it isnt even a big time gap between really

[quaint mantle]

Literally dependencies {
implementation(“your dependency”)
}

It’s that simple

Uses maven local

[wraith rapids]

write me a maven -> gradle converter

[granite stirrup]

yeah but i dont know i just dont like that syntax

[quaint mantle]

Lol you can do it ez, it’ll take like 5 min if you actually try

[granite stirrup]

im sticking with maven cuz yes

[wraith rapids]

i don't have the effort to write things

[quaint mantle]

You prefer xml syntax nice nice

[granite stirrup]

xml is better than json like thingy

[quaint mantle]

It’s not json tho?

[wraith rapids]

give me a maven -> gradle converter pink harambe

[granite stirrup]

ik

but it looks a bit like java

[quaint mantle]

I don’t have one

[wraith rapids]

get one

[quaint mantle]

I just start it out in gradle

How many dependencies you got

[granite stirrup]

https://sagioto.github.io/maven2gradle/ ?

[wraith rapids]

do you expect me to actually spend any amount of effort

[granite stirrup]

i saw this lol

[quaint mantle]

I mean if you actually want to make the switch

Then yea but otherwise up to you lol

[wraith rapids]

i don't want to switch, per se

[quaint mantle]

That’s just for dependencies I don’t think that does your whole pom

[granite stirrup]

i dont think i want to switch

[wraith rapids]

i want my compiling to not take 10 fucking minutes

[quaint mantle]

Yea then definitely use gradle

The first build is as fast as maven

Then after that it’s quick af

[wraith rapids]

yeah maven compiles the entire module each time

[quaint mantle]

My whole ass spigot compiles in 3 seconds

[wraith rapids]

gradle only compiles the modified classes iirc

[granite stirrup]

can u add cache in maven

[quaint mantle]

Cache?

[granite stirrup]

u know cached data

gradle does it i think

so thats how its fast

it caches it only modifies what it needs to

[wraith rapids]

tell him pink harambe

[quaint mantle]

Good you just proved to yourself mavens shit.

Idk what he’s even sayin man LOL

[wraith rapids]

me neither lmao

[quaint mantle]

But anyways @wraith rapids send your pom

[granite stirrup]

do u not know about cache?

[wraith rapids]

i don't want to

[quaint mantle]

No what’s caching

[wraith rapids]

it has secret things in it

[vast sapphire]

is there a program where i can access another pc's files when that pc is on a different network, i have my minecraft test server on a different network and don't feel like stopping/restarting every time i build the plugin

[wraith rapids]

like my social security number and bank account pin

[hybrid spoke]

can you hack facebook for me @wraith rapids ?

[wraith rapids]

probably not

i can barely open the frontpage

much less log in with existent fucking credentials

[amber sorrel]

@vast sapphire I use RemoteDesktop from windows 10 and that allows me to access my pc and it's files from anywhere

[quaint mantle]

You try local testing it’s very quick?

[vast sapphire]

oh ok

[wraith rapids]

get a plugin manager and reload the plugin

[vast sapphire]

I port forwarded it so my team can build plugins with an intellij sharing plugin

[hybrid spoke]

just dont test your things

[vast sapphire]

yea sure

[wraith rapids]

that's the spirit

[quaint mantle]

Ah jenkins type shit

[granite stirrup]

its a thing where it stores like file stuff somewhere and its used to make things fast idk

[wraith rapids]

exactly

[quaint mantle]

Why’s caching fast? This is for idk to answer

[wraith rapids]

obviously because you store stuff in a file

files are fast

[granite stirrup]

cuz if u cache the data and then just compile and modify what u need u can save time on doing other files that has already been compiled but hasnt been changed recently (idk lol)

all i know is mostly all it does it make things faster and i dont know how it works or shit

[hybrid spoke]

explain it to him pink harambe

WITHOUT GOOGLE

[granite stirrup]

?

[wraith rapids]

do it

[granite stirrup]

who

lol

[hybrid spoke]

pink harambe

[granite stirrup]

whos that

[wraith rapids]

the harambe of pink coloration

[granite stirrup]

godcipher?

[quaint mantle]

This guys beyond explaining anything to

It’ll pass thru his head

[hybrid spoke]

^ this is pink harambe

[granite stirrup]

oh

is it cuz of his pfp

[hybrid spoke]

no he looks like this in real life

[granite stirrup]

lol

[quaint mantle]

I’m purple monkey

Not pink

[granite stirrup]

even if u did i probs forget it

[hybrid spoke]

oh didnt knew you r a girl

[wraith rapids]

looks pink to me

[quaint mantle]

My mc skin has a gun shot in the back tho. Out of respect for harambe

[granite stirrup]

are u tired

or just me

[quaint mantle]

You’re saying shit like your asleep

So I think it’s just you

[granite stirrup]

its 00:46

i slept late

woke up early 😢

im just waiting for food now

[hybrid spoke]

01:46 here

[quaint mantle]

5:50 pm

[granite stirrup]

ur 1 hour ahead lol

[granite stirrup]

how do u read time again XD

i mostly forget cuz i never need to look at the time

i only know 12 hour time

i think its 12 hour time

[wraith rapids]

02:50

[hybrid spoke]

are you okay?

[wraith rapids]

sleep is for the weak

[granite stirrup]

idk

[hybrid spoke]

ok

[granite stirrup]

im pretty bored tho

[wraith rapids]

it's bright pretty much 24/7 at this time of the year at this latitude so it doesn't really matter when I sleep

better to work at night time anyway as it isn't so fucking hot

[quaint mantle]

If you can’t read time and see how it relates to military time you need to go to school LOL

[granite stirrup]

its been raining for 3 days

straight

and it was thundering 3 days ago

[hybrid spoke]

35° here

[granite stirrup]

its hot and cold here

[wraith rapids]

i'm an ancient nord so 20C is hot as fuck for me

[hybrid spoke]

melting inside

[wraith rapids]

skyrim is for the nords

[granite stirrup]

its 13 degrees c according to google

apparently its meant to rain

and its gonna happen like that for 3 more days

its gonna be raining alot

lol

[wraith rapids]

i pollute the nearby forests with hundreds of litres of oil every year

[granite stirrup]

why

[wraith rapids]

i also burn old tractor tyres and plastics and materials that release poisonous gases and shit yearly

[granite stirrup]

do u actually

[wraith rapids]

hundreds of litres may be an exaggeration but yes

[granite stirrup]

cuz if u do thats gonna kill everyone

[granite stirrup]

w h y

[wraith rapids]

i run my car with the AC on for shits and giggles

and pour extra engine oil in my diesel tank so it smokes more

[granite stirrup]

wouldnt ur car explode

[wraith rapids]

no, a few percent of engine oil in diesel is fine

diesel and engine oil are both oil

diesel is just more intended for the diesel cycle internal combustion engine

but an old diesel engine like mine will run on just about anything

from alcohol to sunflower oil

[valid totem]

how do i disable hit cooldown

[wraith rapids]

i add extra engine oil because the fuel pump and valves and many other components wear down less with the added lubrication

[granite stirrup]

packets but just use 1.8 combat thingy

whatever it was

oh yeah

oldcombatmechanics

ocm

[valid totem]

as in the way hypixel duels combo

[wraith rapids]

i store the waste oil when I change the oils in my cars and tractors or whatever

[granite stirrup]

yeah ocm does that

[valid totem]

how you can literally get a million hits

[wraith rapids]

but instead of returning it to a waste disposal site, I burn it

[valid totem]

in combo duels

[granite stirrup]

just use ocm

its to hard to probs make ur own

lol

[wraith rapids]

last year I buried minerite tiles with asbestos in them in the forest

[valid totem]

does ocm work with mobs

[granite stirrup]

what

no ocm is for players only

why would u want it on mobs

[wraith rapids]

yes, it works on mobs

[granite stirrup]

wait it does

[wraith rapids]

as in, when punching mobs

[granite stirrup]

i thought it didnt

oh lool

[valid totem]

ocm isnt compatible with 1.17

[granite stirrup]

oh....

why are u using 1.17???

its unstable

if ur doing a production server

u dont want to use it

[wraith rapids]

you'll have to wait a few days or weeks for plugins and shit to update to 1.17

[granite stirrup]

yeah

it just released

well

like 5 days

but yeah

[valid totem]

shit

i thought i was on my lock screen

[sonic dirge]

Some will also be waiting for Paper to test on before releasing an update.

[granite stirrup]

lol

did u just type ur password in chat @valid totem

u probs should change it

[sonic dirge]

lol