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eternal night May 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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usually not no

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not spigot internally at least

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obviously the network setup outside might have fun with the server

weak berry May 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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Yeah

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least now i know somethings wrong with my programming and not spigot lol

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Thanks 👍

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 8:59 PM

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how would I make a timer that resets every second

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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maybe add 1 to a variable every tick and if its is 20 reset it to 0?

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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nvm

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i figured it out

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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lol

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:01 PM

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thats a good idea though

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xd

left swift May 23, 2021, 9:02 PM

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How can I continue color from prefix to player name using scoreboard teams? I mean team.setPrefix(ChatColor.RED) and i want to make player name in red color (without team.setColor() method)

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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this might work but i dont know public boolean ping(String ip, int port) { boolean online = false; Socket s = new Socket(); try { // if this does not fail it would mean server is online s.connect(new InetSocketAddress(ip, port), 10); s.close(); online = true; } catch (IOException e) { /* offline */ } return online; }

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i never done sockets before

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so dont count me on that one

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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int j = (arrayOfPlayer1 = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()).length;```

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what should I do

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I get an error but I need it to be an Array

torn oyster May 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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are minigames hard to make

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cuz it seems i've made a few

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not the most experienced person

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but im not too sure what a minigame really needs

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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final Player[] players = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().toArray(new Player[0]);

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if you really need an array

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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ok bet

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thanks

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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eternal night ```java final Player[] players = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().toArray(new Player[0]...

arraylist is better

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to me

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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why

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:13 PM

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idk

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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neat xD

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:14 PM

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didnt decompile just trying to learn spigot again cause its been a fat minute

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working on old projects

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from like 5 years ago

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and just trying to update them

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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lmao

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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but yeah, if you wanna have an array list you could go ```java
List<Player> arrayList = new ArrayList<>(Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers());

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tho like, if you are just iterating both of those conversions are useless

solemn shoal May 23, 2021, 9:15 PM

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can anyone figure out whats wrong with this config path (spigot.yml)?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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what xD

solemn shoal May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.villagers-max-per-tick

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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ah

solemn shoal May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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for some reason trying to read that value (using YamlConfiguration) yields in a null

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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I mean, the activation range is set on a per world basis

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:16 PM

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wtf it took 1 min loading 6 recipes

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XD

solemn shoal May 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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ah

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right

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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so the default one would be world-settings.default.entity-activation-range.wake-up-inactive.villagers-max-per-tick

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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[23:17:19 INFO]: [MyPLugin] SERVER STATUS: ONLINE

welp my plugin detected my server is online

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Might wanna use the java ServerSocket or something better with netty

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:18 PM

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ivory sleet Might wanna use the java ServerSocket or something better with netty

whats wrong with Socket

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lmao

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I mean, socket can be both really

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it doesn't specify what end of the TCP communication it is sitting

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:20 PM

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i tested this and it works XD public boolean ping(String ip, int port) { boolean online = false; Socket s = new Socket(); try { // if this does not fail it would mean server is online s.connect(new InetSocketAddress(ip, port), 10); s.close(); online = true; } catch (IOException e) { /* offline */ } return online; }

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:20 PM

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oh, you are being the client

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Idk the exact scenario but ServerSocket would arguably more scalable assuming you might want to see check more than just a single server as any amount of connections can sort of be made in to a ServerSocket. Tbf I dont use java net anyways so not really relevant probably.

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:22 PM

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ivory sleet Idk the exact scenario but ServerSocket would arguably more scalable assuming yo...

i mean i dont need to check multiple servers or even one i just added it to my plugin cuz

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yes

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:22 PM

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for the flex

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 9:22 PM

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granite stirrup i mean i dont need to check multiple servers or even one i just added it to my p...

Well the initial recommendation wasn't to you

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:22 PM

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ivory sleet Well the initial recommendation wasn't to you

ik

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i love ? and :

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cuz u could do someBool == true ? "yes" : "no"

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really nice feature i like

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:24 PM

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or you just do someBool ? "yes" : "no"

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:24 PM

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oh

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:24 PM

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because lets face it, comparing booleans with other booleans basically just means, please look at java tutorials xD

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:25 PM

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well i knew that u could do if (someBool) i didnt know it applied to the ? :

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Ah xD yeah it just takes a boolean. No matter where that comes from

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:26 PM

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eternal night Ah xD yeah it just takes a boolean. No matter where that comes from

lmao

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idk if theres a thing to convert a bool to a string with yes and no

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they probs is

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idk tho

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Yes, Boolean.toString

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:27 PM

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lmao

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:28 PM

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your ping method might be problematic tho

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:28 PM

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probs

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idc what its called tho

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:28 PM

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no like, you close the socket after a potential exception throwing method

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:28 PM

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oh

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what?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:29 PM

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like, s.connect might throw an IOException

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if that happens, s.close() is never called

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which prevents the socket from closing

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:29 PM

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oh so do i need to close it?

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in the catch

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:29 PM

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yes, but that is what you have either finally or try-resource blocks for

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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how do i use try-resource?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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private boolean isResponding(final String host, final int port) {
    try (final Socket socket = new Socket()) {
        socket.connect(new InetSocketAddress(host, port));
        return true;
    } catch (IOException e) {
        return false;
    }
}

dusk flicker May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Id recommend just using a finally

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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why ?

dusk flicker May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Just my preference

random epoch May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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Try resource auto closes

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:31 PM

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ah

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:33 PM

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eternal night ```java private boolean isResponding(final String host, final int port) { tr...

    public boolean ping(String ip, int port) {
        try (final Socket s = new Socket()) {
            // if this does not fail it would mean server is online
            s.connect(new InetSocketAddress(ip, port), 10);
            return true;
        } catch (IOException e) { /* offline */ return false; }
    }```?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:33 PM

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ye

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:34 PM

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do u know what i should call it instead of ping cuz idk if its the right word

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maybe i could call it isOnline idk

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:35 PM

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Yeah, isReachable, isResponding

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all of those are fine

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:35 PM

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oh k

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:35 PM

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I mean isOnline is neat too

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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granite stirrup ```java public boolean ping(String ip, int port) { try (final Socket...

then s.close()

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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wat

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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or smth

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or

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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its alr in twr

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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ok

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twr meaning try catch?

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explain

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:37 PM

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twr = try with resources

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a socket implements autocloseable

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 9:38 PM

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ok

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:38 PM

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and is automatically closed at the end of the try block

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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What is the replacement for this?

Objective objective = board.registerNewObjective("Stats", "dummy");

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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replacement in what way ?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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i didnt know that u could have a array of interfaces

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lmao

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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its depreceated @eternal night

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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cold tartan its depreceated <@!202850073812402177>

deprecated*

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 9:39 PM

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granite stirrup deprecated*

thx

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english is the ~~shittiest~~ crappiest language for spelling

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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board.registerNewObjective("identifierName", "criteria", "My awesome display name")

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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cold tartan its depreceated <@!202850073812402177>

sounds like depre seated lmao what u just said

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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you can also read javadocs to find out more 🙂

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?jd+

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?jd

queen dragonBOT May 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/

Overview (Spigot-API 1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

package index

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:40 PM

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thanks cafebabe

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/scoreboard/Scoreboard.html#registerNewObjective(java.lang.String,java.lang.String)

Scoreboard (Spigot-API 1.16.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.scoreboard, interface: Scoreboard

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tho I must admin, spigot tends to sometimes have some rather interesting deprecation notices

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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eternal night

i see

worldly ingot May 23, 2021, 9:41 PM

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i think most, if not all, deprecations are justified

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:42 PM

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I mean, something like a method reference would help here and there

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tho with how little people actually read those 😦

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maybe not

worldly ingot May 23, 2021, 9:42 PM

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sometimes there aren't replacements ;p

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deprecations don't necessarily mean that something is to be removed

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:42 PM

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True xD Best message is the map id thing

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:42 PM

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i mean deprecated things doesnt mean it will break things

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:43 PM

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just like deprecated, this is trash API, works anyway but welp you do you please use different things

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which is absolutely correct just kinda fun

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:44 PM

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most deprecated things is old tho

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:44 PM

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Or super new 🙂

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:44 PM

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well yeah but most are old

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:44 PM

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true

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:47 PM

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lmao it took me forever to hook into papi cuz i kept getting null pointer still dont know the problem but i fixed it xD

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i probs did something wrong in the code

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:48 PM

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never worked with papi 😦 ¯_(ツ)_/¯

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:48 PM

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i just have this giant class that main extends

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XD

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very messy

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does getServer().getIp() return the actual ip of the server

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:49 PM

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Well the bound IP

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which like

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:49 PM

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ah my bound ip is 0.0.0.0 i think

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:49 PM

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yea

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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which is localhost i think

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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how do I catch multiple exceptions for one try statement?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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Yeah, I mean tbh half of the day you have a proxy infront anyway

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just multiple catches

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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i get an error though

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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give it a quick google

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:50 PM

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thats why im confused xd

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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tranquil viper how do I catch multiple exceptions for one try statement?

try {

} catch(Expection1|Expection2 e) {
  e.printStackTrace();
}```

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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i tried that aswell

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get an error

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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shouldnt give u a error

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what error

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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LOL

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I mean

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you cannot catch what isn't thrown

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:51 PM

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but it just threw it

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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where

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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tranquil viper

e.getRickClicked() doesnt do exceptions??

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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heyyyyy

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you know what

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its been 5 years

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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xD

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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i thought

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...

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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oh

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oh no

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xD

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yeah

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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lMFAO

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:52 PM

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that exception wraps the null pointer exception

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when something in your listener fails

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won't show up inside the listener itself

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:53 PM

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he probs got a nullpointer in there

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:53 PM

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wait im confused again now

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 9:53 PM

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whats in ur listener

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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Yeah you are just getting a nullpointer exception somewhere in your listener

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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im joking

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shh

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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if your scroll down a bit in the exception there should be a Caused by:

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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i know what im doing

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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ah 😉

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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xd

eternal night May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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perfect

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 9:54 PM

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yea its classcast

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which i was catching

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but it happened in a different method

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and i didnt notice

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it was in a different one

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xd

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:00 PM

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for some reason im getting this message

warm galleon May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON 'typing_gamedb'.* TO 'typing_game' @'%';

It says im doing something wrong? anything obvious?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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are you registering them on the main scoreboard ?

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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this is how I initialized the test team:

Team test = board.registerNewTeam("Test");
        test.setPrefix(ChatColor.GOLD + "[Test] ");

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:01 PM

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eternal night are you registering them on the main scoreboard ?

im not sure what you mean by main scoreboard

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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warm galleon ```sql GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON 'typing_gamedb'.* TO 'typing_game' @'%'; ``` It s...

where is that username at tho

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like

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there is a space

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between username and the @

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which should not be there

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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cold tartan im not sure what you mean by main scoreboard

where do you get board from

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:02 PM

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oh wait

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i got it

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Scoreboard board = manager.getMainScoreboard();

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i made that my board

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rather than this:

Scoreboard board = manager.getNewScoreboard();

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:03 PM

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yea

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the scoreboard commands operate on the main scoreboard

warm galleon May 23, 2021, 10:04 PM

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eternal night which should not be there

thats a discord thing

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idk why it adds a space

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:04 PM

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Hmm, idk if you need the quotes around your db name

warm galleon May 23, 2021, 10:05 PM

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eternal night Hmm, idk if you need the quotes around your db name

tysm

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lmao

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:06 PM

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if I had to guess that messed up the regex that is the .*

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tho, don't quote me on that

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:07 PM

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i heard that the skript parser is just regex is that true?

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:08 PM

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I mean, might be might not be. In the end it could very much just be regex under the hood

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tho that isn't too much of an issue

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the parser in skript is not the issue either when it comes to speed lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:08 PM

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skript parser is really slow lol

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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But it runs once

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and then it is good

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like, they don't do any just in time loading afaik

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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well doesnt it run it again when u reload scripts and load scripts

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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so after the startup they have an IR of the skript anyway

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Well yes, but like that doesn't affect the runtime

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:09 PM

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i meant its slow reloading and loading and such

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:10 PM

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yea xD Tho in production that shouldn't really happen too much

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:12 PM

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I can't figure out why this prefix doesn't work

Team test = board.registerNewTeam("Test");
test.setPrefix(ChatColor.GOLD + "[Test] ");

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the team works, just not the prefix

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:12 PM

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it is regex

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LMAO

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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granite stirrup it is regex

wdym

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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neat lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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skript

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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not your issue. That seems fine tho tbh

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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the parser

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is just regex

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I don't see why that shouldn't work

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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i mean it works in the tab menu

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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and a bunch of checks

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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just not in chat

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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like 20

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checks

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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are vanilla team prefix send in chat o.O

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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https://github.com/SkriptLang/Skript/blob/9dad477bd8e068582412c16e0485e2ede6797165/src/main/java/ch/njol/skript/lang/SkriptParser.java

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:13 PM

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oh wait no

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Then why would that work xD

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:14 PM

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eternal night are vanilla team prefix send in chat o.O

i thought it was

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:14 PM

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idk xD

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Maybe it is

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:14 PM

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no i got it

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

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the skript parser is like 1886 lines long

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XD

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

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i didn't realize that in vanilla the chat isn't affected by prefix

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

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is it not

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:15 PM

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im pretty sure

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cuz i made a team thru the normal way

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and it didn't do the chat thing

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so

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:16 PM

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did you give it a prefix

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tho

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:16 PM

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yep

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:16 PM

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ah. Well I would personally suggest your own chat handle anyway xD

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:16 PM

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theres a massive bug in mc that crashes servers from the inside

cold tartan May 23, 2021, 10:16 PM

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ya, i prob will

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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did u know that

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its all caused by one item

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lmao

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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huh ?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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map markers

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;-;

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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oh that

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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they crash the server

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if u have to many

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cuz it sends to much packets

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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But the client cannot create those in vanilla no ?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:17 PM

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someone had ALOT of markers

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

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eternal night But the client cannot create those in vanilla no ?

it can

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

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like, the 3d ones with a crazy ton of layers

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oh

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that is sad

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:18 PM

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theres a dupe glitch for markers

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it was to do with nether portals

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i believe

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they crashed the worlds biggest anarchy server

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with it

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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seems like an easy thing to prevent tho

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:19 PM

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not really

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someone made a map thats had like 100k markers and it lowered ur fps like to 0

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and if u hold it

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it kicks u off the server

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XD

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Yeah but can't you limit those packets

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:20 PM

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actually its like a ban

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i think

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it keeps kicking u

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if u hold the map

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apparently someone developed a mod to disable them so they dont crash

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wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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yes you can limit the packets

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the thing about anarchy servers just is that they don't want to do that because they're dumb like that

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it's not an issue and it's not a problem

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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you can probably also cap the amount of decorations applicable to a map on the server no ?

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the server needs to process that too

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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the only way to make it into a problem is by actively not fixing it

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:23 PM

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yeah

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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wraith rapids the thing about anarchy servers just is that they don't want to do that because ...

he added a patch but it wasnt really a good patch it was just limiting how many item frames u can see in a chunk

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i thinK

eternal night May 23, 2021, 10:24 PM

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well yea that is a trash patch

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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cuz they could just do more markers

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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worst possible patch

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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and still crash the server

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probs

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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interferes with normal gameplay

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and doesn't even solve the issue

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:25 PM

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yeah its a crazy thing in mc tho

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and it should be fixed really

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cuz imagine people using this on real servers thats not no rules

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:26 PM

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nothing new and not the most pressing or blatant issue that has been lying around and causing issues

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at least they patched the treasure maps crashing servers one in 1.17, allegedly

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villagers still suck

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portals still suck

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:26 PM

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i wouldnt think something like a map so harmless crashing servers XD

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:27 PM

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the entire game is a dumpster fire

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Can I make intellij run a command in the terminal after I've hit package in maven's lifecycle thing

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:28 PM

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what command are you running after?

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 10:28 PM

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I need to just run a simple batch

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:29 PM

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wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLP9c0Z4Q3Y

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wait intelij has a terminal

quaint mantle May 23, 2021, 10:29 PM

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yup

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:30 PM

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yes so does every ide

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lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:30 PM

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ive just been using cmd

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to build my project

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XD

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:30 PM

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if you're using maven theres a maven icon in the top right

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you can click to build

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:31 PM

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i like typing the command since u get responses from it

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that might be helpful

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XD

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:31 PM

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you still get a response

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its literally just a shortcut for maven commands you still ahve to type them

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:31 PM

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i like doing mvn package since it gives everything

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVrNn5TuMkY

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:34 PM

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i like maven because i clicked package 5 minutes ago and it's still at "scanning for projects"

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:34 PM

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?

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:35 PM

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looks like it just got to resources

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time to go make some coffee

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:35 PM

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wraith rapids i like maven because i clicked package 5 minutes ago and it's still at "scanning...

weird mine just takes like 1 min

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and u probs have faster pc than me

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:35 PM

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this machine can't even run pisscord

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:35 PM

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lmao

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i thought u would have a good gaming pc

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what its just bad apple

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oh wait

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wrong one

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wait no

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its bad apple

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;-;

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:38 PM

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granite stirrup wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLP9c0Z4Q3Y

you know you can do this inside mc too lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:39 PM

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lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:39 PM

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paper viper you know you can do this inside mc too lol

ik

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idk how tho

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:42 PM

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https://files.catbox.moe/k8hua9.mp4

▶ Play video

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:43 PM

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gentle yacht https://files.catbox.moe/k8hua9.mp4

fake

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:43 PM

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no

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Thats not fake at all lol

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It's pretty cool too

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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how do u know

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Because I made it too

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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it cant be that high quality tho

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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it can be because its black and white

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:44 PM

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^

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With color, it's a bit slower

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https://minecraftmedialibrary-wiki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/code/video/maps.html

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one of the disadvantages with maps however is that it sends a ton of bandwidth to users

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and it would lag for latency

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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why is it so bandwidth heavy anyway

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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but there are entities too https://minecraftmedialibrary-wiki.readthedocs.io/en/latest/code/video/entities.html

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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wraith rapids why is it so bandwidth heavy anyway

no idea

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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it's just a few pixels with shitty color depth

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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how can that possibly fucking use so much bandwidth

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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maybe they coded it shit

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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who?

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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well it's mojang so that's a given

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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paper viper who?

mojang idiot

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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video streaming is always really high bandwidth

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:47 PM

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well back when I did it there was no compression

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but nowadays there's compression so idk

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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lmao

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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i saw your old video

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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md_5 why are u here

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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cause he made a plugin before iirc

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very long ago

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that played videos on a map i think

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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it was pretty bad, but good for the time

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:48 PM

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Yeah

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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for reference, the bad apple video is on a 7x7 display at around 30fps, 4:3 res

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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md_5 why are u jumping into the conversation randomly

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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and it uses around 10 mbps

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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try decreasing the compression threshold in server.properties

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might be able to shave a lot of bandwidth off

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though maybe the plugin is sending whole frames>

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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I didn't know that

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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hmm, i havent touched that before

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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my plugin only sent changed columns

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:49 PM

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That'd be interesting to look at

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:50 PM

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yes, it is sending entire frames, i thought that would be more efficient instead of a ton of smaller updated rectangles

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especially for video

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:50 PM

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Banana carried me with all that nms coding

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lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:50 PM

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u could split the video into a cells and then send updated cells

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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hard to manage

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idk if VLC supports that either

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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whats vlc

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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vlc media player

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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why do u need that lmao

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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You can use that in Java

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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my approach was basically to just only send updates if more than a few pixels in the column changed

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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https://github.com/caprica/vlcj

GitHub

caprica/vlcj

Java framework for the vlc media player. Contribute to caprica/vlcj development by creating an account on GitHub.

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:51 PM

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produced some artifacting, but helped a lot

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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interesting

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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sullen marlin produced some artifacting, but helped a lot

why not MD_5 instead of md_5

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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bro sotp asking stoopid questions idkid

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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the only major example of the artifacting is the cats shadow shouldnt be there

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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paper viper bro sotp asking stoopid questions idkid

lmao just curious

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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sullen marlin

that looks real bad lmao

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:52 PM

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basically just didnt deal with horizontal lines well

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I'm sure you can do better these days

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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it looks streched

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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do you remember if you updated each column individually with a packet?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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and pixelated (but then again its mc lmao)

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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iirc each frame was a packet, and the packet allowed you to only send select columns

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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and do you know approximately how much bandwidth you managed to save by updating the columns only?

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:53 PM

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packet format has changed since I did this

gentle yacht May 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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it hasnt changed too much with the update area so far

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right now it lets you update a rectangle of any size

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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oh I also rendered all the packets in advance

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cause it also used a lot of server cpu

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:54 PM

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why does the pillagers always face me

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even in creative

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 10:55 PM

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@paper viper did u put a gh link in the docs?

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Else might wanna do that heh

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Oh for mml?

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Yeah maybe lol

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 10:55 PM

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Ye

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:55 PM

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wraith rapids why is it so bandwidth heavy anyway

I never understood why it had to render every frame

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:55 PM

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i forgot about that lol

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:56 PM

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wait can u do everything without nms

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:56 PM

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?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:56 PM

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i meant can u do things in nms without it

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:56 PM

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iirc, youtube actually uses an algorithm which only checks for changes in pixels (pixels are the same if they are the same before)

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:56 PM

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like is there ways to replicate it

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but it isnt nms

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:57 PM

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render a map? sure

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:57 PM

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Yeah

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:57 PM

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paper viper iirc, youtube actually uses an algorithm which only checks for changes in pixels...

i thought it uses a blob like thing

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:57 PM

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video compression is its whole own branch of science

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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granite stirrup i thought it uses a blob like thing

It doesn't. It's also the reason why videos with snow may lag a lot

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cause there are a lot of changes in pixels from the falling snow

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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worth reading up on how jpeg works

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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yeah utube can make a 5gb file maybe to like 30kb

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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though you'll need at least 2 years of university calculus to appreciate it

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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it only stores the differences in pixels

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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granite stirrup yeah utube can make a 5gb file maybe to like 30kb

thats a strech

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:58 PM

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not just differences

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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isnt jpeg relatively bad now

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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yeah utubes compression is really good

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u dont even notice a difference

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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there are dozens of different ways you can compress a video stream and the best algorithms are mixes of them all

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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@drowsy helm same principle is used for H.26X, mp3 etc at the core

paper viper May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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Yeah

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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only really in dark areas

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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jpeg is just an easy example

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 10:59 PM

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jpeg sucks

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no transparency

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 11:00 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2aEzeMDHMA

YouTube

Computerphile

JPEG DCT, Discrete Cosine Transform (JPEG Pt2)- Computerphile

DCT is the secret to JPEG's compression. Image Analyst Mike Pound explains how the compression works.

Colourspaces: https://youtu.be/LFXN9PiOGtY
JPEG 'files' & Colour: https://youtu.be/n_uNPbdenRs
Computer That Changed Everything (Altair 8800): https://youtu.be/6LYRgrqJgDc
Problems with JPEG: COMING SOON
Upside Down Trees (Huffman Encoding):...

▶ Play video

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this video probably does an ok job

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havent watched it though

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:00 PM

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md_5 ignores me lmao :(

eternal night May 23, 2021, 11:01 PM

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I'd do too

paper viper May 23, 2021, 11:01 PM

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me too

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:02 PM

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lmao the old mario where it was limited to like 30kb or something like if u took a screenshot of the game it would be bigger than the game itself XD

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 11:02 PM

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i havent seen a computerphile video in years lmao

paper viper May 23, 2021, 11:02 PM

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i remember watching Computerphile for learning dithering

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error difussion dithering

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which is it's own separate topic too

cyan bluff May 23, 2021, 11:04 PM

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Using PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent, how can I check if the command is valid?

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(1.16.5)

sullen marlin May 23, 2021, 11:05 PM

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?xy

queen dragonBOT May 23, 2021, 11:05 PM

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http://xyproblem.info/

The XY Problem

Asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem

paper viper May 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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I was wondering

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Would entity name tags use a lot of bandwidth?

#

Cause entities and using nametags are also another way for playing videos (which will be updated constantly)

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

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i think its a 1 time thing that gets cached

paper viper May 23, 2021, 11:07 PM

#

ic

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:09 PM

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can someone make me this I dont understand coding its a whole tutorial but u have to skip to 38 sec for tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_kRspIX2eE

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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asking is forbidden

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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fuck my discord logged me out on the web

#

hang on

paper viper May 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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good

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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i need to get my 2fa code

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:10 PM

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and this is why i prefer ripcord

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no hassle

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you just click and you're in

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just like god meant credentials to be

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:11 PM

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k im logged in

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:12 PM

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bruh is anyone gonna help me\

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:13 PM

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sinful raptor can someone make me this I dont understand coding its a whole tutorial but u hav...

then learn java

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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no i cant

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i tried

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im stupid

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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then ur out of luck

opal juniper May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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Don’t come here lmao

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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m8

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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then pay someone money to do it for you

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and do it somewhere else

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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bruh this is help developenmt

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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yes

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we help you develop things

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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yeah

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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not we help you by developing things

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:14 PM

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can u help me

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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write it

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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m

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ok

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I have idea

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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if you have a question about writing it, ask it

#

we won't write it for you

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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we dont write shit for u

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u have to write the shit

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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help me set up the thing like whith the packages on the sides

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thats what i dont get

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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bruh

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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package what

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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learn the ide ur using

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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look at the vid

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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i don't have the effort

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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'D

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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send an image

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:15 PM

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oki

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:16 PM

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@sinful raptor ur making me loose brain cells

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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cant add image

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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link the image

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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uhh how

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/324667367860862977/839835522008743956/what-are-vectors-1.jpg

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like this

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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just go to vid and then go to 1:03

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

#

no

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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PLZ

#

its easy

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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goodbye

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:17 PM

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NOOO

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:18 PM

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md_5

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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:buoobuoo:

opal juniper May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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sinful raptor NOOO

What don’t you get

vital tiger May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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gosh darn why is nuvotifier dependency not available :/

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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the things on the side

drowsy helm May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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have you made a project yet

opal juniper May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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Packages are basically folders

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:19 PM

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no i haveny

opal juniper May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Well, make a project

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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yeah but I want to know hot to set it up

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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new feature 👀

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Pog

sinful raptor May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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ill send you a picture of what I have

opal juniper May 23, 2021, 11:20 PM

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Oh I

#

Ok

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:21 PM

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my phone charges pretty fast

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its been like 5 mins and its already 11%

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-plugin-with-maven-using-intellij-idea/

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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actually maybe it was like 2 mins

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i didnt keep track of time

#

i like just put it on charge

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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i'm using youtube mobile on desktop because the new material layout or whatever it's called is super fucking slow

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:25 PM

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Then mine charges unbelievably slow

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:26 PM

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wraith rapids i'm using youtube mobile on desktop because the new material layout or whatever ...

then dont use it

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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wraith rapids i'm using youtube mobile on desktop because the new material layout or whatever ...

it isnt slow for me

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its actually faster

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

#

Did you know you can turn off pings for replies

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:27 PM

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ivory sleet Did you know you can turn off pings for replies

yes but why

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because it turns on all time and i dont want to keep turning it off

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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Uh does it? Weird not for me

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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ivory sleet Uh does it? Weird not for me

for me it does

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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ivory sleet Uh does it? Weird not for me

lol

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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it did turn off repeatedly at some point

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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ivory sleet Uh does it? Weird not for me

see

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

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but it's been quite a while since

#

idk if that's been patched

#

haven't used pisscord for ages

ivory sleet May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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What do you use now? Still rip one?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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after i send my message it turns on

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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yeah

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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whats pisscord

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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discord

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aka shitcord

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:29 PM

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lmao

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arent u using discord rn

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LMAO shitcord is a thing

#

XD

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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no

#

i'm using ripcord

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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isnt that discord

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:30 PM

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no

#

it's a discord client written from scratch in like c or something

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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ah is there anyway to lower this i added 1 command 1 placeholder and its like 16.4kb

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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you're probably shading in your mom

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:31 PM

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im not shading anything in

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the classes folder is 28kb

#

lmao

#

apparently its 60kb on disk

#

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:33 PM

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that means that there are many small individual files

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:33 PM

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most files arent more than 4kb

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6kb

#

lmao

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:33 PM

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usual sector size is 4kb so anything smaller than 4kb is going to use 4kb on disk

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in flatfile, anyway

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

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well yeah but the real size is no bigger than 6kb

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of each file

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:34 PM

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compression is different

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:35 PM

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i also removed the meta-inf completely

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since i didnt need it

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the precious bytes im saving from that

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is quite alot LOL

#

no but its legit all my classes in the jar

#

no shaded things

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16kb is pretty small tho

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im saving 2kb from deleting the meta-inf using a thing in maven

ancient plank May 23, 2021, 11:37 PM

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I cry when I update a dependency and get an error about manifests

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:37 PM

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yeah but i dont need the manifest

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like when do u ever need it

ancient plank May 23, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I'm gonna be honest my brain is too small to really know what it does kekw

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:39 PM

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me either

ancient plank May 23, 2021, 11:39 PM

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I just add one when I get an error or smth

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:39 PM

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omg

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my world generation in mc just almost generated a penis in the ocean

#

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half of a penis

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in the ocean

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LMAO

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thats natural world generation for u

vagrant stratus May 23, 2021, 11:42 PM

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Gotta finish it m8

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:44 PM

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LOL

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my code for my plugin is dumb

past glen May 23, 2021, 11:45 PM

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so I ~~stole~~ borrowed this code for launching a projectile but e.damage doesnt work, what do I use instead? ```@EventHandler
public void onPlayerInteract(PlayerInteractEvent e) {
if (!(e.getAction() == Action.RIGHT_CLICK_AIR)) return;

    if (!(e.getItem().getType() == Material.DIAMOND_HOE)) return;

    Fireball f = e.getPlayer().launchProjectile(Fireball.class);
    f.setIsIncendiary(false);
    f.setYield(0);
}

@EventHandler
public void onEntityDamage(EntityDamageByEntityEvent e) {
    if (e.getDamager() instanceof Fireball) {
        Fireball f = (Fireball) e.getDamager();
        if (f.getShooter() instanceof Player) {
            Player shooter = (Player) f.getShooter();
            if (shooter.getItemInHand().getType() == Material.DIAMOND_HOE) {
                e.damage(10.0);
            }
        }
    }
}```

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:46 PM

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past glen so I ~~stole~~ borrowed this code for launching a projectile but e.damage doesnt...

what do u mean by doesnt work well

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

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question:

if ((e.getAction().equals(Action.RIGHT_CLICK_AIR) || e.getAction().equals(Action.RIGHT_CLICK_BLOCK)) && StaffMode.sm.contains(p))

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

#

is this real 👀 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nURoFHyXUo

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tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

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works when clicking in the air

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does not when clicking blocks

past glen May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

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granite stirrup what do u mean by doesnt work well

its not a method it recognizes

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

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its does it twice

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:47 PM

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past glen its not a method it recognizes

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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i think mc only calls interactevent on blocks and not air

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:48 PM

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you think its cause of off hand?

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:48 PM

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tranquil viper you think its cause of off hand?

what

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:49 PM

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when i right click a block it says "vanish enabled" then "vanish disabled"

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im 99% sure its cause of off hand

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how would I check if it is just the main hand

sage swift May 23, 2021, 11:49 PM

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PlayerInteractEvent#getHand

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:49 PM

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yea ik that

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but like

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how do I check if its the main hand

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and not the off hand

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:50 PM

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tranquil viper how would I check if it is just the main hand

interact only gets called when u interact with a block not a air block tho

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i think

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:50 PM

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join general 1 i can ss

sage swift May 23, 2021, 11:51 PM

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PlayerInteractEvent#getHand

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:51 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:51 PM

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ahh

sage swift May 23, 2021, 11:51 PM

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and it gets called for blocks and air

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:51 PM

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ok thank you

sage swift May 23, 2021, 11:52 PM

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as well as redstone components such as pressure plates

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:52 PM

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im dumb

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:52 PM

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welp it still dont work

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i have an idea now that I know its EquipmentSlot though

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thanks

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@quaint mantle can you join vc

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real fast

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so I can show you what it's doing

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dang ok

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:54 PM

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as if explaining code on vc was any easier than it is in text

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:54 PM

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wraith rapids as if explaining code on vc was any easier than it is in text

nah I just want to show what my issue is

wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:54 PM

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send an image

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:54 PM

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imma just download gyzago

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1s

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:56 PM

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wraith rapids send an image

https://gyazo.com/65c45bf52fbbe0d742ab1e131ea39781

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wraith rapids May 23, 2021, 11:58 PM

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use == to compare enum constants

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:58 PM

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k

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:58 PM

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i use .equals for everything almost lmao

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.equals compares the object right and == compares the memory ?

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i forgot

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:59 PM

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wraith rapids use == to compare enum constants

works but doesnt affect anything

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I still have the same issue

sage swift May 23, 2021, 11:59 PM

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he didnt say it would fix it

tranquil viper May 23, 2021, 11:59 PM

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sage swift he didnt say it would fix it

true xd

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where did that go

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wat

granite stirrup May 23, 2021, 11:59 PM

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the bot probs deleted it

tranquil viper May 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

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where

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am I missing them

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

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== test identity equality

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

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u dont need {} sometimes

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:00 AM

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aka reference equality

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equals tests equality

tranquil viper May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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I understand Im missing them but I dont see where xd

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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for example, two Integers may be equal, they have the same value

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but they may still be 2 different objects

tranquil viper May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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ah

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that actually makes sense

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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in such a case .equals would return true and == false

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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k

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:01 AM

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most notably it's a noob trap with Strings

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"abc" is equal to "ab" + "c"

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but not ==

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because appending c to ab creates a new String object

tranquil viper May 24, 2021, 12:03 AM

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so anyone know why then xd

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:03 AM

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so does .equals compare content?

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:03 AM

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that is one way of describing it

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equals compares the objects, == compares the references

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:04 AM

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k

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:04 AM

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a == b is true iff a is b (from NNY lol)

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:04 AM

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so will "abc".equals("ab" + "c") be true or false?

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:04 AM

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true

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:05 AM

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true, because "abc" is equal to "abc"

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:05 AM

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is there a ===?

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:05 AM

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not in java

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in some languages === stands for == and == for equals

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or vice versa

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:06 AM

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ah it should be like .equals in java or something lmao

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:06 AM

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I wish java had === and == lol

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:07 AM

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lol

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same

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:08 AM

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hmm ye

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:09 AM

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i think === should be .equals in java signifying that it is more accurate than ==

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:10 AM

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I think
javas == should be === (strict)
and
javas .equals should be just ==

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oops

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:10 AM

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accurate is subjective

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:10 AM

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wraith rapids accurate is subjective

i mean its a little more accurate

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than ==

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:10 AM

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whether what is more accurate than what depends on what you're looking for

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:11 AM

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i guess

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:11 AM

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== is perfectly accurate in that it never returns incorrect values

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:11 AM

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but i still think there should make .equals ===

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:11 AM

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someone could implement equals improperly and it could return incorrect values for comparisons

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but it still depends on what you're measuring

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if you're measuring reference equality, == is accurate

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if you're measuring object equality, equals is accurate

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:12 AM

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well i still think === should be .equals

cyan bluff May 24, 2021, 12:20 AM

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How can I detect if a command in the event PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent is a valid command?

quaint mantle May 24, 2021, 12:21 AM

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[Irrelevant response] I mean.. does it matter?

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:23 AM

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Bukkit#getPluginCommand(PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent#getMessage()#split(" ")[0]) != null or smtng

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lol

quaint mantle May 24, 2021, 12:23 AM

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testing against null

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dangerous 🙂

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:24 AM

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no it isnt

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null is kinda everything but nothing at the same time lol

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:24 AM

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cuz Server#getPluginCommand is nullable obv

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:25 AM

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if (plugin.getCommand("command") != null) wouldnt this work lmao

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:25 AM

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ye

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or I mean

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that asserts whether ur plugin has a command with the name "command"

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:26 AM

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cuz u probs gonna give events access to ur main file instance XD

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:26 AM

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Server#getPluginCommand uses the CommandMap as its lookup

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:26 AM

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ivory sleet that asserts whether ur plugin has a command with the name "command"

oh

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what does the # even do in java

quaint mantle May 24, 2021, 12:27 AM

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I still stand by my point, who cares if they enter an invalid command? 😄

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:27 AM

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It’s just javadoc syntax

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But basically that the methods belongs to that class

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N137 ye probably xy issue

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:27 AM

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why not just do Bukkit.getPluginCommand?

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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I use Server to make it more object oriented but ye Bukkit class works too

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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quaint mantle I still stand by my point, who cares if they enter an invalid command? 😄

i mean if u want to make a custom invalid command message then you may want to know it

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:28 AM

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Assuming no idiot set a custom server with Bukkit#setServer

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:29 AM

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lmao

cyan bluff May 24, 2021, 12:29 AM

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ivory sleet Bukkit#getPluginCommand(PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent#getMessage()#split(" ")[0])...

thx

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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ivory sleet Assuming no idiot set a custom server with Bukkit#setServer

why does that exist

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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That was basically done in a core plugin which bamboozled like all of their other server plugins then they asked for support

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Idk

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:30 AM

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o

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lol

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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it might be there so then the bukkit loader thing can set it?

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:31 AM

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Yeah

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I would argue for that a setter shouldn’t be exposed and instead letting Bukkit reflectively set the server instance

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The api is anyways non extendable in most cases

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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its sad that nms is not cross version

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idk if thats a word

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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🥲

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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XD

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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it's the way it is intentionally

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:33 AM

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yeah but it sucks

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ass

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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It’s kinda yucky ye, I mean we have a decent api so that’s kinda nice

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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u wanna make a plugin with nms that works everywhere bam most of your dreams are ruined

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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use a multi module project

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or reflection

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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i mean u can bypass that but

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i mean it isnt easy

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:34 AM

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Yeah here is how it will look with a trivial abstraction https://github.com/MinecraftMediaLibrary/MinecraftMediaLibrary @paper viper 👀

GitHub

MinecraftMediaLibrary/MinecraftMediaLibrary

A library built off the Spigot API to play media for users on a server. - MinecraftMediaLibrary/MinecraftMediaLibrary

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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i think nms should be able to be distributed

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maybe not modified

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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even if it wasn't relocated into a different package for each nms version, you still couldn't build against multiple versions at once

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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but atleast make things with it

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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because you can't depend on multiple versions of the same artifact at once

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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^

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:35 AM

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you'd still need a multi module project or reflection

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or use the fucking ide to import all of the server jars ever made like one golden fucknugget

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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i still dont get what reflection does it look for a class for whatever version you have

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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reflection is the ability of code to look at itself

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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Technically mojang could have included an api for their server implementation for cross version compatibility although I guess it’s not in their interest.

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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dont use reflection for this still lmao

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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reflection is when code is able to look in a mirror and see what code has been written

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:36 AM

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it gets super messy

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if you use reflection for this

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like extremely

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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i dont use nms anyway

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i try to avoid it really

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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Found out lambda method factory is fast so that’s pog

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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for example I could programmatically look at all of the methods declared in a given class, or on a given object

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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or if it’s was meta factory idr

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:37 AM

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its sad that u cant upload anything that has nms in it

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:38 AM

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you can but you're liable to get craftbukkit'd

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generally though nobody cares

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:38 AM

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granite stirrup i try to avoid it really

well it depends on your usage

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nms is very powerful

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:39 AM

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well i mean everything in bukkit might use nms lol

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well yeah but i only avoid it cuz its hard to implement it with cross version in mind

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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cross version is gay anyway

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there is next to zero reason to be on anything but latest

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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most servers run 1.8 or 1.12.2

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lmao

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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no

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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thats why u have to support it

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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less than 8% of servers are on 1.8

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only like 2 or 3% are on 1.12

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:40 AM

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no

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most run 1.12.2

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hypixel does on some of there minigames

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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someone pull up the stats

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Hypixel runs 1.7 but they have a custom software

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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no some of there minigames is 1.12.2

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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Uh 1.12? what the fuck

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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1.16.x accounts for like more than 75% of all servers

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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So their situation is hugely different as opposed to using public available software

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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who uses 1.12

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:41 AM

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literally nobody uses 1.12

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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lol

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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except some mods i guess

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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everyone uses 1.12

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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1.12 is even more unpopular than 1.8

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and that's at 8% already

past glen May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

#

so I have code to shoot a wither skull from my wither staff item and to shoot a dragon fireball from my dragons fury item, the wither staff works but the dragons fury does not, whats wrong? ```@EventHandler
public void onPlayerInteract(PlayerInteractEvent e) {
if (!(e.getAction() == Action.RIGHT_CLICK_AIR)) {

        if (e.getItem().getItemMeta().getDisplayName().equals(ItemManager.wither_staff.getItemMeta().getDisplayName()))
        {

            WitherSkull f = e.getPlayer().launchProjectile(WitherSkull.class);
            f.setIsIncendiary(false);
            f.setYield(0);
        }

        if (e.getItem().getItemMeta().getDisplayName().equals(ItemManager.dragons_fury.getItemMeta().getDisplayName()))
        {

            DragonFireball d = e.getPlayer().launchProjectile(DragonFireball.class);

            d.setIsIncendiary(false);
            d.setYield(0);
        }
    }
}

@EventHandler
public void onEntityDamage(EntityDamageByEntityEvent e) {
    if (e.getDamager() instanceof WitherSkull) {
        WitherSkull w = (WitherSkull) e.getDamager();
        if (w.getShooter() instanceof Player) {
            Player shooter = (Player) w.getShooter();
            if (shooter.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().getDisplayName().equals(ItemManager.wither_staff.getItemMeta().getDisplayName())) {
                e.setDamage(10.0) ;
            }
        }
    }
    if (e.getDamager() instanceof DragonFireball) {
        DragonFireball d = (DragonFireball) e.getDamager();
        if (d.getShooter() instanceof Player) {
            Player shooter = (Player) d.getShooter();
            if (shooter.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().getDisplayName().equals(ItemManager.dragons_fury.getItemMeta().getDisplayName())) {
                e.setDamage(10.0) ;
            }
        }
    }
}

}```

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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i seen alot of 1.12 servers

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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granite stirrup no some of there minigames is 1.12.2

Their server implementation is 1.7.10 but they don’t allow 1.7.10 for instance

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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than 1.16

candid galleon May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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@past glen use pastebin please

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or a paste website

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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i don't care what you've seen

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the statistics don't lie

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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wraith rapids the statistics don't lie

(yes they do)

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:42 AM

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somebody pull up the stats page so we can bury this stupid debate already

candid galleon May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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what's your source @granite stirrup ? other than "ive seen alot"

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c4rmlGahUU XD

YouTube

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wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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"hypickle uses it"

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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candid galleon what's your source <@!389841806025687050> ? other than "ive seen alot"

minecraftservers.net

candid galleon May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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good source 👍

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link?

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:43 AM

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thank you

candid galleon May 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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@granite stirrup that "website" just has a picture on it

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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but i seen like every singLe server on a serverlist site and its all 1.12.2

candid galleon May 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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it has no actual data that's presentable

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this guy's a troll 👌

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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idk i seen loads of 1.12.2

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:44 AM

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at least the 1.8 people have a decent excuse

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1.12 is literally pointless

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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granite stirrup but i seen like every singLe server on a serverlist site and its all 1.12.2

Every server doesn’t necessarily have a plugin or smtng which sends data to bstats so he might be negligibly inaccurate

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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you have like, what, pre-flat materials

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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1.12 is the best one for performance lmao but still has most of the features u want

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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not really

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i want waterlogging

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building underwater shit without waterloggable stairs and shit is cancer

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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no you doooooont

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:45 AM

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add it then

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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why so many on .4

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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now do paper vs spigot

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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lol

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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anyway my server is 1.14.4

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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lmao why

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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i meant 1.14.4

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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that is even more fucked up

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1.14 is the worst performing modern version

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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yeah

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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let me tell u why

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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you really should be using 1.14.1

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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let me tell u

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:46 AM

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Why 1.14 lol

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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it's possible that 1.14 is the worst version in the history of the game

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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1.14.4 has all these unnecessary bugs that are fixed in 1.14.1 👍

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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1.16.5 uses to much memory lmao and it crashes my server

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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🤡

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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my server pauses

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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lol that just means that you have it set up incorrectly

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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it uses over 1.6gb of ram

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;-;

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i only have 1.46gb

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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OMG!

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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you don't know what "uses" means

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:47 AM

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1.6 GB!!

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hwo could mincreajrift do dis!

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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and the server dies when it goes over

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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i'm currently running a 1.16.5 server with less than 1gb of memory

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i have 150+ plugins installed

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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idkid how old are you

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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including multiverse, towny, dynmap and mcmmo

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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no im not kidding

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Its using alot of memory

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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it isn't

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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it is

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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you just can't read the values right

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:48 AM

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no its legit on the panel

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:49 AM

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you probably don't even know what the difference between the heap and native memory is

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you are looking at numbers and going omg they are big when you don't even know what they mean

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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bro i readed the numbers on memory usage on the panel it went over 1gb

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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yeah the panel doesn't know shit

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and you don't know shit either

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:50 AM

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;-;

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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anyway, 1.14 is literally the worst version

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it has the worst performance, the most gamebreaking issues and crashes and bugs

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it doesn't have support

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it doesn't have any useful features over 1.13

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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but muh pillagur

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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or any advantages compared to 1.15

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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und i dont wan beez!

shrewd totem May 24, 2021, 12:51 AM

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yuh villagers > beeeez

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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if you use fucking 1.9, 1.11, 1.14, 1.15 any of those cursed versions

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you should go die in a hole

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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1.10 is great though

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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like i can somehow vaguely get 1.15

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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sage swift 1.10 is great though

thats why i didnt add it there

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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oh youre serious

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what

ivory sleet May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Factions hence 1.8 is good cuz tnt is optimized and 1.8 pvp

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🐷

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Lol

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:52 AM

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the nether changes and some underlying world system changes in 1.16 can be a dealbreaker for some people

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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one point ate is my favrit vershun

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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1.17 new updates are going to help push more people over too

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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but i don't really think anybody would run 1.15 seriously

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1.17 is going to break so much shit

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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maybe its cuz i was using paperspigot 1.16.5

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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like holy fuck

shrewd totem May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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paper viper 1.17 new updates are going to help push more people over too

from where?

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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from lower versions

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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paper hasn't been called paperspigot for like 5 years

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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yeah that is true its going to break shit lol

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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and paper works fine

paper viper May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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java 16 right

shrewd totem May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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pvp elitists wont budge

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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muh tnt cannons

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muh 25cps

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:53 AM

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yeah but when i did paperspigot 1.16.5 it went over 1gb of ram and it was like 1.9gb

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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yeah and that's not an issue

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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omg 2 gb of ram

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how will i survive

wraith rapids May 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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if you don't want it to go over 1gb, restrict it to 1gb

granite stirrup May 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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i only have 1.5gb of ram

sage swift May 24, 2021, 12:54 AM

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in 2021