help-development

[wet breach]

I currently make $5k/month as a tire tech. So it would have to be minimum of that

[echo river]

Damn

Nice

[wet breach]

and I even have benefits such as taking breaks whenever I want, calling off work whenever

guaranteed 40 hours of work

[echo river]

For how long have u been developping stuff ?

[wet breach]

in MC or in general?

[echo river]

In mc

[wet breach]

since pretty much its beginning

[echo river]

Oh wow

[wet breach]

I helped make holograms a thing in MC 😛

[echo river]

W achievment

[lilac dagger]

Wait, the old way?

[wet breach]

http://dev.bukkit.org/projects/holoapi

this is the first plugin to ever provide holograms

holographic displays came out 3 months later I think it was

[young knoll]

What was the old way

[wet breach]

the old way is the horse age bug

[young knoll]

It was like wither skulls or fucked up horses wasn’t it

[wet breach]

once 1.8 hit, it turned into armorstands since mojang patched the horse age bug

[echo river]

Lol what

Lmao wtf?

Never heard of that

[wet breach]

yeah if you set the horses age to a negative value, it turned invisible and upside down too if I recalled

and all that was visible was the name tag

which is what is the hologram

[echo river]

Hahaha

This is hilarious

[wet breach]

holoapi's devs were not the ones to discover the bug

[fierce cipher]

@wet breach can u do it?

[wet breach]

someone else did that and we credited them for finding it, but we took that info and made it into a plugin 😄

[fierce cipher]

can u do it

can u send me the jar file

[echo river]

Omg hes back

[wet breach]

and well, here we are now with mojang making entity displays which is awesome

[fierce cipher]

can u do it gng

[echo river]

Yeah gj tho

[wet breach]

also because of holoapi and holographic displays mojang was forced to keep holograms

and the armorstand was chosen for that role

[echo river]

Yeah mojang has been doing good technical stuff recently

[wet breach]

nothing at the time was better suited

[fierce cipher]

@wet breach can u do it like send me the jar file??

[echo river]

Yeah makes sense

The api in 1.8 is hideous

[fierce cipher]

was bro playing with me?

[echo river]

Log and Log2

Lmao

[wet breach]

oh yeah, was a crazy time then

[fierce cipher]

no bro

[echo river]

Sorry

[fierce cipher]

can u do it

i rlly need smone to do it

[wet breach]

I was there for the whole debacle of the DMCA stuff. I left BukkitDev shortly after that lmao

[echo river]

Oh yeah

Mojang wanted to take bukkit down right ?

[wet breach]

no

[echo river]

Oh

[wet breach]

otherway around. A developer from bukkit dmca'ed Mojang

and tried to take down bukkit

[fierce cipher]

yo @wet breach if u can make the jar u get 100 bucks

[echo river]

Wtf

[fierce cipher]

im dead ass ong no crosses

[wet breach]

Mojang just never responded to the guy, they were upset because they were like one of the only devs to not get hired by mojang and have their rights to code paid off

[fierce cipher]

so can u do it?

[wet breach]

and so they felt cheated due to this and believed mojang was stealing or benefiting from bukkit code

so it was done in rage/retaliation

[fierce cipher]

bro i will pay u 100 bicks

bucks*

ONG

can u do it

you will also get dev

[lilac dagger]

Yo, if you're in money you can pay me and i'll compile you anything

😄

[echo river]

Yeah that sucks

[wet breach]

Mojang owns bukkit just fyi

that was the other thing that developer didn't know

even though it wasn't really a secret and by the time they found out mojang had owned bukkit for a few years lol

anyways it was crazy XD

[echo river]

Oh yeah right

[fierce cipher]

@lilac dagger make me it and i'll pay u

[echo river]

Wtf lol

[lilac dagger]

Alright, which plugin?

[fierce cipher]

this is my challenge i doubt u can do it btw, its a yes or no and u have to do it in a week 🙂

Can you make a server that runs Minecraft 26.2 Snapshot 4 by remaking paper to support 26.2, and supports paper & purpur 1.8.8 - 1.21.11 plugins by automatically remapping the plugins? It should support eaglecraft and bedrock edition (Port 19132), and should work with bungeeguard.

its ok if u cant btw

that

LOL bro def gonna give up

[lilac dagger]

Ah

[fierce cipher]

so can u?

[echo river]

"LOL bro def gonna give up"

like

mmmmmh

[fierce cipher]

bc he stopped typing

[lilac dagger]

You know

[fierce cipher]

@austere cove

@vital token

@worldly ingot

[echo river]

omfg

[lilac dagger]

This challenge sounds possible if i worked with all of these at once lol

[fierce cipher]

wdym its one thing

[lilac dagger]

But not sure about plugin bit

[fierce cipher]

can you make me the jar file and i pay u $100

[lilac dagger]

They all work differently i can't unify them to work from 1.8.8 to latest

Nah man

100 is nothing for this

[fierce cipher]

@worldly ingot
this is my challenge i doubt u can do it btw, its a yes or no and u have to do it in a week 🙂

Can you make a server that runs Minecraft 26.2 Snapshot 4 by remaking paper to support 26.2, and supports paper & purpur 1.8.8 - 1.21.11 plugins by automatically remapping the plugins? It should support eaglecraft and bedrock edition (Port 19132), and should work with bungeeguard.

its ok if u cant btw

[lilac dagger]

Only thing i see is a ban tbh

[slender elbow]

@fierce cipher i will do it for $2000 USD

[worldly ingot]

I was generous

[slender elbow]

50% upfront

[echo river]

lol he got banned

[lilac dagger]

Lol

Figured

[echo river]

thank mod

[worldly ingot]

I muted him for a week. Might give him an opportunity to learn how we conduct ourselves in this community instead

[echo river]

haha

[slender elbow]

you think so?

[echo river]

I dont think he understands why he got muted

it might be a bit hard for him

        Block block = world.getBlockAt(blockLocation);
        // Updates the block Type first, then changes the state :
        block.setType(material);
        BlockState blockState = block.getState();
        blockState.setData(materialData);
        // If the block is directional, adjusts its facing
        if (this.getDirection() != null && materialData instanceof Directional) {
            Directional directionalData = (Directional) materialData;

            RelativeBlockDirection relativeDirection = this.getDirection();
            AbsoluteBlockDirection absoluteDirection = direction.getAbsoluteWith(relativeDirection);
            directionalData.setFacingDirection(absoluteDirection.toBlockFace());
        }

        // Then updates the block
//        blockState.setRawData(materialData.getData());
        blockState.update();
    }```

hum

Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Provided data is not of type org.bukkit.material.MaterialData, found org.bukkit.material.Bed

at blockState.setData(materialData);

I have 2 questions

First is why tf is this hapenning ? Like materialData is of type MaterialData

and if changing the materialData after using blockFace.setData() actually works

(I was using rawdata, which worked fine but I want to understand why this doesnt work)

(btw this is a method for placing structures)

nevermind I think this is because of block updates

I'm using setTypeIdAndData() now and it works

[rotund ravine]

Here’s a challenge for u! Spigot, but. It’s on hypixel!

[quaint basin]

Is it possible to set an entity in a spawner using component data?

[thorn isle]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Monster_Spawner#Block_data

[quaint basin]

https://pastes.dev/xlz3F3M9MY I break the spawner and the entity appears on the item lore, but then when I place it on the ground, the spawner is missing the entity

[quaint basin]

I don't know what to do with this

[young knoll]

You need to be opped to place it with entity data

[quaint basin]

im opeed

[young knoll]

You may also need to be in creative

[quaint basin]

how can i do this on survival

[young knoll]

Use the place event to copy data to the placed block

[quaint basin]

have some method to avoid that? https://pastes.dev/0IJkyxPycb

[thorn isle]

they've evolved from screenshots to photos of computer screens

[quaint basin]

I have an /orders plugin that works on multiple servers.

For item collection, I'm doing the following:

Adding an item to a lock in a global Redis server where that order ID cannot be collected if it's already in the lock where the addition has a 5-minute time limit. After successfully adding the item to the lock, then performing the operation on the database, and once the database operation is completed, then giving the items to the player and removing the order ID from the lock (only removing it if successful).

Currently, this has a problem: the server closes before the task in the main thread that distributes the items is finished.

I'm probably overcomplicating this and maybe I don't even need Redis. Does anyone have a better suggestion?

https://pastes.dev/whwHfWhoF9]

I'm going to remove the Redis lock and only use the database for this. If it returns 0, it means the operation on the database has already been completed and I won't deliver the items. I had a duplicate in this plugin (that's why I added the lock to Redis) where the person was using a mod called Delay Packets. This only allows sending multiple click packets absurdly fast, right?

https://pastes.dev/MKbLqi8Tko

Now I just need to know how to implement the logic for what happens if the server closes before delivering the items to player inventory

[echo basalt]

You can either use a distributed lock + timeout or use the db itself yeah

[quaint basin]

I'm having a headache right now if the server close before the scheduled task is executed

[echo basalt]

the timeout would expire and the lock would unlock

pair that with a db call and you can see if it locked and expired, or if it locked and succeeded

[quaint basin]

I'll only use the database for this:

I'll have two fields in the database: delivery_status and delivery_server_id.

I'll allow item collection only if delivery_status = IDLE and automatically update it to PROCCESSING along with delivery_server_id.

After this database operation is completed, I'll give the items to the player and schedule an update of delivery_status to IDLE.

If the item task isn't executed, then delivery_status will be idle. When a server with this plugin installed starts, I check if there's any row with delivery_status = processing and if server_id matches delivery_server_id, then I update the state to idle

What do you think of this approach?

[echo basalt]

I mean yeah that'd effectively use the db as a lock

[quaint basin]

Yes, I don't think redis it's worth here

[echo basalt]

lower latency

You're doubling your processing latency by using sql for both

[quaint basin]

But I don't think that advantage is worth the complication

[wet breach]

just fyi DB's like mysql allow for creating functions within it to execute and you can have one that routinely runs to do cleanup

this way you don't have to create extra queries to do cleanup

[quaint basin]

My world is taking up 200 GB. How many chunks need to be generated to occupy all that space?

[echo river]

Hey, I was just wondering why most of java is using private variables + getters/setters, I feel like this is a bit restricting especially in an api

Like if there is a bug in a method to set a variable you have to find a workaround instead of accessing a public variable, because the variable is private

(Fireball setDirection hum hum)

[chrome beacon]

If there's a bug you should report it and get it fixed. As for why there are getters and setters for stuff is a concept called Encapsulation. You can read about it in more detail on Wikipedia

but basically it keeps behavior contained so other parts of the code don't directly mess with the internal state of an object in a way that's not intended. A pro for APIs like Spigot is that it helps with maintaining backwards compatability. For example should a value no longer be represented by a primitive field but instead by a component or similar; Spigot can then just add the required conversion logic in to the setter/getter instead of having to check that field every tick for changes

[echo river]

yeah ok makes sense

but the bug is in the 1.8.8 api

sooo

its cooked

I found a fix but I barely understand the way its done lol

[chrome beacon]

Well if you're on 1.8.8 you really should be using a maintained fork

or be maintaining one yourself

[echo river]

where can I find one tho ?

[chrome beacon]

There are ton of them out there

just give it a search

Personally I recommend you just stay up to date

[echo river]

I want to do it in 1.8 lol

but you are talking about a fork of spigot right ?

because I cant really find a repo for spigot

[chrome beacon]

?stash

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[chrome beacon]

?contribute

[undone axle]

You can find information about contributing to Spigot at the following links:
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/cla/
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/guide-contributing-to-spigot/
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/README.md
https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/CONTRIBUTING.md

[chrome beacon]

^ you can skip account and cla stuff as you're not making a PR

[echo river]

ok

what is a pr btw ?

public repo ?

[chrome beacon]

Pull Request

[echo river]

oh

ok

so thats about licensing and legal stuff right ?

[chrome beacon]

The cla you mean?

It is yeah

[echo river]

ok ok

ty

[golden turret]

yo, how do i change the player name above his head on newer versions?

like, make his name rainbow

[orchid trout]

whats the difference between a duck?

[buoyant viper]

a duck and a what...

[tender shard]

the beak

[mortal vortex]

ty gaming nword

[tender shard]

delicious

[umbral ridge]

nms

[echo river]

Hello, I want to make a small "NPC" plugin, nothing too complicated, just having fake players that send a message / open a menu when clicked. I want to code it myself, but I'm unsure on how to do it. Should I create a NPC class and then for each different NPC, a subclass, with different actions for each. Or should I add a "type" field to each NPC (maybe via an enum) to differentiate them

I find the first option more elegant but im not sure

[ivory sleet]

usually through text display displays iirc

[drowsy helm]

So you want to hardcode your npcs

not make them configurable?

If you want to hardcode it then i would say yeah first option is easiest, just make an NPC class and extend from it

[flat folio]

Hey, I have a problem. My account was hacked and the email was changed. What should I do?

[drowsy helm]

?support

[undone axle]

[e-mail]

[drowsy helm]

email that

probs have to get your account deleted

[wet breach]

or if you don't care about it, I guess get a new one

[flat folio]

I have a premium plugin like CMI.

[wet breach]

then I guess you are emailing support and hoping they can do something for you

personally I would just buy the plugin again

[flat folio]

😭

[quaint basin]

i did /spark heapsummay -save-to-file https://imgur.com/a/WwtJnlh

and i have two files. what should i use to see on app?

[tender shard]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[haughty pollen]

mb sry

[echo river]

Ok ty 🙂

[quaint basin]

https://pastes.dev/IE7rVVZc0l is this normal?

[mortal vortex]

Is an error normal...

[wet breach]

some would say yes

[young knoll]

Haven’t seen that one before

[quaint basin]

this is not a error

[thorn isle]

are you trying to analyze a heap dump

did you take a memory allocation sample with spark yet? that's not the same as a heap dump, it's like the cpu time sampler but for allocs

[golden turret]

my client doesnt want it

[sly topaz]

your client can't have rainbow names then

well, I guess if you're fine with a rainbow limited to a palette of 16 colors

though even that might prove difficult due to name length limit

[smoky anchor]

one way that would be really annoying to do imo
replace all players with mannequins
they can have fully custom name
I can't think of any drawbacks rn

[sly topaz]

there is a ton

handling disguised entities is a pain in the ass due to entity data expectations

[ivory sleet]

if u can use mannequins, whats stopping u from going the easy route w text displays

[golden turret]

what about packets?

but i saw the display name has a cap of 16

[sly topaz]

what do packets have to do with it

you can spawn text displays using packets if you want, but you are still going to have to use text displays

[echo river]

genuinely

I hate the 1.8 api

a stair is facing west, you get its facing, its west. A bed is facing west, you take its facing its... EAST

😭

And setFacing is reversed

Can I modify my spigot so it does things differently ?

[thorn isle]

just use worldedit or something to paste your structures rather than doing it manually

or alternatively use nms

[echo river]

lol

[thorn isle]

iirc bukkit also has blockdata (de)serialization methods that you ought to use rather than manually calling getters and setters for each property

[echo river]

well isnt spigot open source ?

couldnt I just modify how it behaves ?

oh

is bukkit the software and spigot just the api ?

that would make sense lol

[thorn isle]

kind of but not really

you can maybe try forking some 1.8 server project that has already done the legwork for you

but don't expect anyone here to handhold you through it

[echo river]

yeah ok

[thorn isle]

also, changing the way how the api behaves will break anything using the changed parts of the api

so unless you plan on writing all your plugins yourself, i'd advise against it

[echo river]

that what I was planning to do

I want to make a practice map thats a server

so it would only be used locally

hum

this is a bit overwhelming

I dont really understand the difference between bukkit, craftbukkit and spigot

in the server dir

public BlockFace getFacing() {
        byte data = (byte) (getData() & 0x7);

        switch (data) {
        case 0x0:
            return BlockFace.SOUTH;

        case 0x1:
            return BlockFace.WEST;

        case 0x2:
            return BlockFace.NORTH;

        case 0x3:
        default:
            return BlockFace.EAST;
        }
    }```

absolute madness

[young knoll]

1.8 moment

[echo river]

😭

I dont really know much about licenses and legal stuff, but since this is open source, I assume I can modify it and then publish it on github no ?

or are there issue related to the dmca ?

[chrome beacon]

Modify what?

Spigot you mean?

[echo river]

yeah

 public void setDirection(Vector direction) {
        Validate.notNull(direction, "Direction can not be null");
        double x = direction.getX();
        double y = direction.getY();
        double z = direction.getZ();
        double magnitude = (double) MathHelper.sqrt(x * x + y * y + z * z);
        getHandle().dirX = x / magnitude;
        getHandle().dirY = y / magnitude;
        getHandle().dirZ = z / magnitude;
    }```
normalizing the vector also modifies the speed

hahahahaa

😭

[chrome beacon]

Yeah

This is noted in modern javadoc

[echo river]

hum

soo

ig this doesnt really matter for now since this is a personnal project

[thorn isle]

are you doing this for the sake of learning how to do it or are you just aiming to get a "practice server" whatever that is done

[chrome beacon]

I believe it's fine but just keep in mind you cannot share the jar

[echo river]

both kinda

[echo river]

oh

rip

why ?

[thorn isle]

because unless you are specifically in it to learn the grit, forking 1.8 is definitely not the easiest or most effective way of going about doing the latter

[echo river]

like if I recompile a modified version I cannot share the jar ?

[echo river]

yeah since this is a practice map for bedwars I have to do it in 1.8 unfortunately

[thorn isle]

doesn't matter

you don't have to fork 1.8 to do it

[echo river]

wdym ?

[thorn isle]

write a plugin

[echo river]

yeah ik

but the api is broken

[thorn isle]

not really

not to mention that you're not allowed to distribute your modified server jar since it will include copyrighted object code

[echo river]

thats weird no ?

like

[thorn isle]

so it will at best be a nice personal trophy or a paperweight

[echo river]

ok ok

[chrome beacon]

BuildTools exists for a reason

[echo river]

ohh

[thorn isle]

the api works fine, and like i said, for pasting your practice map or whatever structure you're trying to paste, just add worldedit as a dependency and use its api; it exists on 1.8

[echo river]

ok ok

[thorn isle]

if you really insist on doing the block properties via setters yourself, just flip the BlockFace direction before setting it

that one thing is not worth taking the entire server apart and redoing it

[echo river]

yeah ok

I just dont really understand why I cant modify spigot and oopen source it

[buoyant viper]

u would be redistributing Mojangs property, which is no-no

[thorn isle]

you can open source the spigot part probably, but not the jar

the spigot codebase is a series of modifications applied on top of mojang code

to do anything useful with it, it needs to be whipped with the mojang code

which is haram

[echo river]

lmfao

[buoyant viper]

mojang is pork...

[echo river]

I think I dont really understand what bukkit and spigot are

[thorn isle]

this is why to get a runnable spigot jar you need to get buildtools, which will download the mojang code from mojang directly, and then apply the modifications on top of it, and locally produce the jar

[echo river]

oh ok

[buoyant viper]

Bukkit is an API that outlines a way of interfacing with Minecraft

CraftBukkit is the implementation of Bukkit that does the interfacing with Minecraft

Spigot is additions to both

[echo river]

ok

I mean I still dont get it but I get that mojang code = no no

lol

[buoyant viper]

yeah just dont redistribute mojang code in source or compiled forms and u will be good

[echo river]

yeah ok

[buoyant viper]

need spigotclip so bad

waiting for buildtools makes my brain go mush

[lilac dagger]

i just built everything once

😄

plus i still need to go via build tools to get the local repo things

[rugged fulcrum]

Anyone need a developer?

[mortal vortex]

This is a channel where people ask for help with development... I think people who frequent this channel are already developers.

[thorn isle]

I have a bunch of pending slave labor that I could use a developer to do for free

[mortal vortex]

Wow vcs… really great comment to make during black history month.

[thorn isle]

just wait until we get to pride month

[echo river]

lmao

[umbral ridge]

can you detect what type of a value is returned when you use select statements? in sql

[lilac dagger]

you can get the column names

[umbral ridge]

yes but can you get column types?

[lilac dagger]

do you need the datatypee?

hmm

[umbral ridge]

i could make a converter class but i dont know.. its a mess

it feels like it could be done easier but i havent found a solution yet

[lilac dagger]

the result set doesn't have a get type from column index/name

but i wonder if there's a query you can run

that gets the datatype

something like this maybe?

[umbral ridge]

i found this now

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/api/java/sql/ResultSetMetaData.html#getColumnTypeName-int-

result set has a metadata

bruh

[lilac dagger]

nice

getColumnTypeName

pretty cool

[umbral ridge]

wish they had some kind of sql -> java data type mapper

i still have to manually check string and do something like Int (String) -> Int (data type)

[lilac dagger]

i just do it like this

tho it's interesting there's a metadata with column types

[umbral ridge]

yea

ill expose the ResultSet in my wrapper class

it also contains ResultState and like execution time.. etc..

[echo basalt]

Ew

[lilac dagger]

how do you do it?

[echo basalt]

I'd abstract statistics

More of a data structure ick for your case specifically

[lilac dagger]

i mean i could as well make a small orm

but this works fine

[echo basalt]

small ORM is fine I just don't like how you're doing stats :)

player id | statistic name | statistic value is a bit more flexible

[lilac dagger]

not sure i follow

i do have player ids

[echo basalt]

yeah but you also have a column for each statistic type and that's inflexible

[lilac dagger]

oh yeah, because i need to sort by column type

[echo basalt]

For leaderboards?

[lilac dagger]

yes

[echo basalt]

You could just use a WHERE

SELECT playerId, statisticValue FROM statistics WHERE statistic_id = "bombs_defused" ORDER BY DESC LIMIT 10 or whatever the query is

and that lets you do custom statistics and reuse that code everywhere

[lilac dagger]

so let me understand, you made a statistics table

player id'd with statistic value and name

and you put everything in there?

[echo basalt]

Yea

[lilac dagger]

what happens if you have 20 statistics times 40k from players

[echo basalt]

Not everyone plays the game and sql is built for large volumes anyways

[lilac dagger]

i guess you could index it

[slender elbow]

small numbers

[echo basalt]

worry when it becomes a problem yeah

[slender elbow]

sql engines are built for more than you could ever imagine

[echo basalt]

I mean grocery stores keep all their transactions + receipts for like 2 years at least

so

[lilac dagger]

someone has to use columns

plus i think you can just add a new column if needed

[echo basalt]

lame

[echo basalt]

cope

[slender elbow]

cringe

[lilac dagger]

Well, i'd need to pull a lot more queries per joined player

It's cool but my schema doesn't change often

[slender elbow]

and what's the problem with that

the relational part of relational database is important 😔

[umbral ridge]

what about that?

[slender elbow]

that doesn't look all that different than using jdbc directly

[umbral ridge]

its a little nicer isnt it?

[slender elbow]

the passing of params

the rest, ehhh

[umbral ridge]

i like to have things more explicit the way they are by default.. eg.: how do you know if query was successful? if there's no exception thrown? if there's no results? that's why i like things more explicit

[lilac dagger]

I guess i could join all those but how long would such a query look 👀

Even the current approach is a bit long in 2 of my minigames

[umbral ridge]

i wanna change that because right now its ok.. but since it's an object, i can pass anything i want in there and thats dangerous.. want to make it specific.. either a String which can be converted from any types like Integer, Boolean and would work fine, but pain in the ass comes from converting these.. so I dont know. because.. I could pass json as a parameter and effectively it's a string, but, I dont know how sql server will accept it

[lilac dagger]

I do have a json string

I use the TEXT data type

It's pretty cool that it works

[slender elbow]

any mediocre database has built-in json types you can query inside of directly

what kind of database do you use lol

[lilac dagger]

Sqlite doesn't as far as i know

[umbral ridge]

i use EmilyDatabase

XD

jk im on basic mysql

[slender elbow]

sqlite definitely has json operations

not specifically a json column type but it lets you operate on them

[lilac dagger]

I don't know, last time i checked i had to use TEXT instead

Oh yeah

[umbral ridge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BbJdwrOsM7nTa

[slender elbow]

although, sqlite doesn't really have types to begin with

[lilac dagger]

Yeah, it has very few

[slender elbow]

no i mean

[echo basalt]

every time I try to abstract jdbc into something nicer I end up with a shittier jdbc

[slender elbow]

everything regarding types is a lie

[lilac dagger]

Oh

[robust helm]

every time i try jdbc, i end up liking mongodb

[slender elbow]

there is absolutely 0 type safety offered by sqlite

it's all stored equally, you can omit types entirely

[lilac dagger]

I see

[slender elbow]

by default*

you can enable some or another pragma directive but, like, it's a waste of time anyway

[lilac dagger]

I'll make an orm in the near future

Hopefully the end result will look nice

[slender elbow]

just use jooq lol

i mean if you wanna do it for fun go ahead

[lilac dagger]

And where's the fun in not building it from scratch

[slender elbow]

but if you want to save resources then that's going to take you nowhere

[umbral ridge]

that sounds like a nightmare

wait, does mysql have types that java dont?

yes

christ, i have to make a mapper still

[lilac dagger]

Jooq seems cool but i was thinking more on the line of hibernate's orm

And have like the crud plus some sorting

[umbral ridge]

why are mushrooms growing like crazy everywhere

even on crafting tables

everywhere with a flat surface

inside houses

on wood planks

[lilac dagger]

Fungi devour wood if i remember correctly

Moist wood plus leaves and that's a perfect place for a mushroom

[lilac dagger]

Oh

Minecraft mushrooms

[umbral ridge]

oh lol

XD

everywhere

[lilac dagger]

Is this from world generator?

[umbral ridge]

world generator is default

no there werent that many mushrooms here when i started but like they grow everywhere

[lilac dagger]

Might be a small bug i dunno if this is intended

[thorn isle]

they do grow and spread in low light conditions, and i think soul fire lanterns or whatever these are called give exactly that level of light

[umbral ridge]

XD

fuck

[wanton fog]

guys, can someone help me with my plugin??

i have a problem that when i shoot an arrow

it goes sideway

spigot 1.8

pls

help me

[lilac dagger]

It's really old tho

My guess is it has to do with entity id 0

Is there any other entities before you joined?

I think i had a similar bug on my 1.8 server

[young knoll]

Setting the velocity too high also breaks things

[wanton fog]

yeah, the velocity is set in * 10

[wanton fog]

not really

[wanton fog]

do u know how to fix it?

[lilac dagger]

Rejoining i think?

Or panda spigot

It's more new it has a download on github

[lilac dagger]

But try this first

times 10 sounds like a lot

[wanton fog]

double speed = 10.0;

        arrow.motX = dir.getX() * speed;
        arrow.motY = dir.getY() * speed;
        arrow.motZ = dir.getZ() * speed;

        world.addEntity(arrow);

i use it

[wanton fog]

panda spigot?

[lilac dagger]

Yeah

It's the best thing to run if you're on 1.8.8

Probably has some fixes

[lilac dagger]

Try first with a speed of 1.2

Does it still go sideways?

[wanton fog]

lemme try

wit

yeah, it still going sideway

but a little bit less

[lilac dagger]

Hmm

How do you calculate direction?

[wanton fog]

Vector dir = player.getLocation().getDirection().normalize();

do u know the problem?

[lilac dagger]

Might still be the entity id 0 i think

You can try the player.getEyeLocation().getdirection

Not sure it chsnges anything tho

[wanton fog]

it works but if i increase in velocity it goes sideway

[lilac dagger]

Well, find the max spot

[wanton fog]

if i put: double speed = 5; the arrow still going sideway

[lilac dagger]

Whst happens if a friend joins?

And tries to shoot

Does it go sideways still?

Let's see if my issue still exists

[wanton fog]

ok

[lilac dagger]

@wanton fog does it still happen?

[wanton fog]

yeah

[lilac dagger]

hmm

so it's velocity too high then

[umbral ridge]

this happens with fireworks too

idk if its intentional or not

[lilac dagger]

might be velocity prediction being messed up on this version

is it still the same on newer versions?

[young knoll]

I believe so

Iirc it’s only the rendering that’s wrong though, the arrow still lands in the correct place?

[marble shoal]

Is there a Discord bot that can verify if users have purchased any of my plugins, submit reviews, etc.?

[lilac dagger]

I doubt because of cloudflare

[mortal vortex]

yess... scraping + cloudflare = pain in the ass

[mortal vortex]

How do you stop knockback on Mannequins? is it just a matter of events, or is there a setter?

[young knoll]

Are mannequin’s living entities?

If so you can use the knockback resistance attribute

[mortal vortex]

idk are they?

u tell me bucko

[young knoll]

Yes

They also have a setImmovable

[mortal vortex]

thnx

i was doing setCollidable lol

[golden turret]

guys, I want to change the player name using packets and teams, this is the closest I could do

how should I do it right?

im delaying the packets so i can /tp and see if it works

[sly topaz]

what version are you developing for that you still have obfuscated names

[golden turret]

1.21.10

[sly topaz]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[golden turret]

gradle

i just found out that i need to add the entry to the team with the new name

instead of the old one

which can cause an issue, since multiple players will have the same empty name

i need to confirm that with a 3rd player though

[golden turret]

also, this doesnt load

[sly topaz]

sadge, they had useful blogposts

https://github.com/patrick-choe/mojang-spigot-remapper

this was the popular gradle plugin for remapping with gradle

sadly it seems to have been archived recently. Should still work fine though

[random grove]

I want to programmatically open a container block (chest, barrel, etc.) for a player in a way that:

1. Respects other protection plugins that may want to prevent a player from accessing the container
2. Plays the chest open animation and sound
3. Does not require the player to physically click the block

What event(s) do protection plugins (e.g. WorldGuard, GriefPrevention) typically cancel to prevent a player from opening a chest, and how can I check against those programmatically without the player physically clicking the block?

Also, does player.openInventory(container.getInventory()) correctly play the chest open animation and sound, or does that need to be handled separately?

My current best attempt:

// block is the container block, player is the player
PlayerInteractEvent fakeEvent = new PlayerInteractEvent(
    player,
    Action.RIGHT_CLICK_BLOCK,
    player.getInventory().getItemInMainHand(),
    block,
    BlockFace.UP
);
Bukkit.getPluginManager().callEvent(fakeEvent);

if (!fakeEvent.isCancelled()) {
    BlockState state = block.getState();
    if (state instanceof Container container) {
        player.openInventory(container.getInventory());
    }
}

Is this the right approach? Does firing a fake PlayerInteractEvent correctly trigger protection plugin checks? And does player.openInventory() handle the animation/sound, or do we need to do something extra?

Actually, to clarify — the code snippet above is just meant to illustrate the intent, not as a serious attempt. I'm aware it has issues (e.g. logging plugins like CoreProtect would record it as a real interaction). I'm more interested in understanding the correct approach from scratch.

[thorn isle]

this is always difficult because bukkit has no first-class concept for "protection"

firing an interact event should in principle probably be enough for container access, but your mileage may wary depending on the protection plugin

iirc no, opening the inventory like that does not fire the sounds and open the lid, but i'm not 100%; try it and see

regarding the fake event, remember to cancel them before the monitor priority, as otherwise e.g. custom item plugins might fire off item use logic for the held item; again whether this works or not depends on which priority those plugins listen to at

also be aware that anticheat plugins might kick the player or cancel the event if you fire an interact event for a block that's far away

[random grove]

Is there a smaller subtitle I can send a player? I've done

player.sendTitle("", SUBTITLE, 0, TEMP_TICKS + 20, 20);

But the subtitle still appears very large on the screen. I could have sworn that I have seen other servers show smaller subtitles to players, ones that don't take up the entire screen.

[thorn isle]

there's the actionbar, but it's much lower and much smaller, shown over the hotbar

the title itself can be made smaller and moved around the screen with a custom font

[random grove]

thanks

[pine forge]

Is there a known problem where AdvancementDoneEvents dont seem to be emitted on 26.1.2 servers?

[rugged fulcrum]

Can someone help me? I need a developer

[orchid gazelle]

?metaquestion

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[pseudo hazel]

if you need a developer to make things for you

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[grave abyss]

How to acually implement shield stunning back in to spigot?

[mortal vortex]

Was that a thing?

[thorn isle]

is it no longer a thing?

i assume you the mechanic where hitting a shield with an axe knocks it down and "stuns" it for a bit

[slender elbow]

🤔

[mortal vortex]

I thought that was just cooldown

[thorn isle]

i mean yeah it is, a cooldown to using the shield

[pseudo hazel]

yeah the cooldown is only active if it got hit by an axe and there is a kind of breaking sound that plays too

[slender elbow]

yeah but stunning didn't get removed or anything lol

unless spigot bug but w/e

[thorn isle]

inb4 "i mean spiggot 1.8"

[young knoll]

1.8 doesn't even have shields :c

[slender elbow]

you'd think

but that's how they get ya!

[worldly ingot]

inb4 they backported shields

[golden turret]

yo, any ideas for a concurrent TreeSet?

it would be nice if i didnt to manually sync

[thorn isle]

java has a concurrent skip list map which you can iirc use as a tree set

[golden turret]

yea, just found out

[thorn isle]

i recall it being one of the best performing concurrent sorted set implementations in the world

beaten only by some arm-specific impl using LL/SC nonsense

[golden turret]

i just found out i actually need a concurrent list 😭

because im sorting my stuff by priority and i want to be able insert elements with the same priority

[thorn isle]

consider map<priority, set<T>>

there are concurrent linked list implementations i'm certain and i'm pretty sure the jdk has at least one, concurrentlinkeddeque perhaps, but iirc that's not indexable into

but a treemap that maps from priority to a bucket of elements all sharing the same priority will work just as well

[jagged matrix]

command /smpstart: permission: vexon-smputil.smpstart trigger: execute console command "/minecraft:tp @a %player%" execute console command "/title @a title [{bold:true ,text:"START!",color:green ,underlined:true }]" execute console command "/minecraft:clear @a" execute console command "/minecraft:give @a golden_carrot 16" execute console command "/essentials:killall drops" execute console command "/minecraft:worldborder set 2500" execute console command "/minecraft:gamrule pvp false" wait 3 seconds execute console command "/title @a title [{bold:true ,text:"30 MINS NO PVP",color:dark_red ,underlined:false }]" execute console command "/minecraft:weather clear" execute console command "/minecraft:time set 1000" wait 30 minutes execute console command "/minecraft:gamrule pvp true" execute console command "/title @a title [{bold:true ,text:"PVP ON!",color:green ,underlined:false }]"

why doesen't it work (the title)

[chrome beacon]

I recommend you ask about Skript in the SkUnity discord

but I'm going to assume it's because of the " "

Your command contains it so now it's confused to where the command end or starts

[winter jungle]

Why using skript effects and stuff, if you can use console commands 😭

[sly topaz]

that's a funny way to use a scripting language

[echo river]

yo guys fun fact, in 1.8.8, the bottom and top part of doors do not behave the same with Facings

😄

HAHAHA

funny right ?

[wet breach]

you mean a known thing?

[thorn isle]

at the risk of repeating myself, have you tried doing this with the worldedit api yet

[echo river]

I will suffer

lol

Bed             : getFacing() = same as MC, setFacingDirection = same as MC

Button (stone)         : getFacing() = same as MC, setFacingDirection = same as MC
Button (wood)         : idem

Chest
Ender Chest        : getFacing() = same as MC, setFacingDirection = same as MC
Trapped Chest

Furnace
Dispenser        : getFacing() = same as MC, setFacingDirection = same as MC
Dropper

Repeater        : getFacing() = opposite to MC, setFacingDirection = opposite to MC (same as getFacing()) => This is a case of the use of "Spigot Facing" instead of "Minecraft Facing)
Comparator : Not Directional

Cocoa             : getFacing() = same as MC, setFacingDirection = same as MC


DOORS : 
All doors behave the same, however the top half of the door is not affected by getFacing() or setFacingDirection(), the raw data is always 8, which translates to the Facing WEST, with getFacing(). The bottom half handles the facing.

            : getFacing() = opposite to MC, setFacingDirection = opposite to MC (same as getFacing()) => This is a case of the use of "Spigot Facing" instead of "Minecraft Facing) (Only for the lower half of the door)



GATES : 
All gates behave the same
            : getFacing() = the Direction to the left of the Minecraft Direction : SOUTH (Minecraft) = EAST (Spigot), WEST = SOUTH, NORTH = WEST, EAST = NORTH, setFacingDirection = same as getFacing()) => This is a case of the use of "Spigot Facing" instead of "Minecraft Facing, but this time, it is not using the opposite direction, but the direction to the left.


Ladder
Lever
Piston
Sticky Piston
Pumpkin
Jack o' Lantern
Redstone Torch
Torch

Skull

Stairs

Wooden Trapdoor
Iron Trapdoor

Tripwire Hook

[sonic sonnet]

Hi, whats the best way to create bungeecord with multiple hub servers?

Because in the config I need to setup an fallback server for bungeecord to work. But the fallback server can change, bacause lobby-1 can get reboot. And in the meantime the fallback server is offline players can't connect (they get an com.google.common.base.Preconditions.checkArgument(Preconditions.java:145))

And the screenshot code is not working when the fallback server is offline. How can I fix this?

[sullen marlin]

Why not just use the priorities system inbuilt to bungee?

[sonic sonnet]

Because I add/remove servers automatically, we have a lot of instances

It would be ideal to have an event before the internal priority server is picked to modify the result and bypass the priority, but that is not possible. Or to change the priorities trough the API.

[wet breach]

why are you rebooting the hub?

second why not make use of transfer packets and move them to another hub?

[thorn isle]

use velocity and the proxy connect event and write your custom logic for selecting which backend a player goes to on join

[wet breach]

but the solution here is quite obvious, stop rebooting the hub so much

that shouldn't be a normal everyday thing and if it is you have issues that should be resolved so you don't have to do that

[sonic sonnet]

Its not like I am rebooting it every hour. But during update releases or night reboots (automatically) this problem occurs. And rebooting is a everyday thing, just to clear all cache etc

[wet breach]

night reboots shouldn't be a thing

[sonic sonnet]

Alright I understand your point. But still I want to look for a solution because in the rare case I do need to reboot the lobbies, I dont want to lose a lot of players...

[wet breach]

well you don't lose them

they come back

[sonic sonnet]

Does that bypass the priority check?

[wet breach]

but yeah I routinely let mc servers run for months before rebooting them. Servers are capalble of that or should be. If you loose the proxy server you are going to lose players regardless where they are at, unless you can move them to another proxy. Since the hub is a mc server itself and instead of moving them to another mc server that may just be another game mode, you can just have them move to a minimal world/server of nothing. IE its an mc server that implements the bare minimum to allow connecting. Once your hub server comes back up, just move them all back. Bungee has api to move players to servers.

[umbral ridge]

this depends a lot on the hardware that runs the servers

and the system

[wet breach]

no

[umbral ridge]

yes

[wet breach]

if you are rebooting you are just ignoring a problem

[karmic fossil]

Good I would like to change my name on the spigot page if possible

[wet breach]

java didn't come out today

[umbral ridge]

if you are not rebooting you are ignoring the problem

[wet breach]

Java is used as a server everywhere

[umbral ridge]

XD

[wet breach]

why is it those places don't need to reboot but MC you must do so?

[umbral ridge]

a lot depends on the system and hardware

[wet breach]

what makes MC more special then any other software out there?

[sonic sonnet]

Sometimes its better not to argue with some people 😂 doesn't make any sense

[umbral ridge]

if we want to discuss this further, i have to tell you how minecraft works

[wet breach]

once you provide an example of this I will believe you otherwise its just a fallacy sorry

[umbral ridge]

you are a fallacy

[wet breach]

Java is simply not new, minecraft is not some revolutionary software either. It doesn't make use of anything different then other servers out there that runs on java.

[sonic sonnet]

Just google "is it good to reboot a minecraft server everyday?" and ALL forum post literally say the same.. lol

[wet breach]

because they don't know java

I probably been running servers longer than you been alive or nearly so.

and I have been using Java since it came out

[sonic sonnet]

I have colleague it workers who been here for over 50+ years and don't know how to make an excel formula... 😂

[wet breach]

cool, not talking math here

[sonic sonnet]

Just saying that time doesn't say anything. But alright. You win, I don't have time for this 🤓

[wet breach]

if you are rebooting everyday it means you have a plugin that is causing issues and needs to be resolved. Sometimes the mc server code has a flaw in it, mojang isn't always perfect and that should be fixed too. But the fix is not rebooting, all that is doing is just avoiding fixing the problem that causes you to need to reboot to begin with

longest I have ran an mc server without rebooting it, is 1 year

I had to reboot because the system OS needed to reboot to update the kernel

either I am some mystical wizard only capable of running an mc server that long without a reboot or I actually know what I am doing

the proxy server needing to reboot is understandable because sometimes you get ghost connections locked up in the system and you can only clear it if the application that originally created it dies.

but the mc servers on the other hand not true since its the proxy that handles all the connections

this is why profiling your java applications is a thing

as well as why JVM arguments even exist

so you can tailor your JVM to your needs

[thorn isle]

works fine for me

[rotund ravine]

Mostly shitty plugins needing u to do so

Ahh you already said that

[wet breach]

Lol

[echo basalt]

let the dude reboot his stuff damn

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-patrick-star-rebooting-reboot-gif-4770991

[echo basalt]

in any case resilient systems should handle downtime gracefully

[buoyant viper]

u should not need to restart a minecraft server Daily lowk

[solid heart]

Could be a hardware issue?

[wet breach]

The only hardware issue that would require rebooting a jvm would be failing ram or failing storage drive which if thats the case you have bigger issues than worrying about rebooting the jvm.

[solid heart]

Yeah, I was thinking maybe RAM. Storage also makes sense

[wet breach]

When it comes to servers rebooting should not be an everyday thing or be necessary. That is not how they are designed

[solid heart]

If op is hosting on their own hardware I'd say they should check that out, otherwise their provider's machines are probably pretty good

[wet breach]

If they want to implement graceful reboots to make it more convenient for their players that is fine. But my point has been rebooting daily just should not be necessary and if it is you have plugins or something causing problems and should be looked into to resolve.

[solid heart]

I agree that having to reboot daily is unusual

[mortal vortex]

Why are you using Skript like this?

you’re using a scripting language like a command block

Skript has a send title thing. You don’t need to daisy chain commands and hope they work.

[soft swallow]

Please dms me

Who would like to help me with the dms server, I will pay? someone who can handle the deluxe menu

[robust helm]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[robust helm]

handling delux menu is tough 🥀

[civic mica]

Its actually pretty easy tbh, just use the advanced menu as the base

[robust helm]

it was sarcasm

should have added /s mb

[thorn isle]

shmeluxe shmenu

just do chest guis

[thorn isle]

i am interested in receiving money

give me money for free

[hybrid spoke]

put it all on red, easy x2

[lilac dagger]

Cough give all your money to the house cough

[lilac dagger]

^

[tender shard]

go work

[quaint basin]

Yes, I suspect it's aswm, but I'm not sure

And sorry for the delay

[thorn isle]

take an allocation sample with spark also

[kind hatch]

How would I go about adding a patch to spigot directly?
I'm looking to add a configuration option to the spigot.yml, but I don't know how to actually get to that point.

I understand how to contribute to/work with bukkit and craftbukkit, but not spigot.

[sullen marlin]

Commit it to Spigot-Server and then run ./rebuildPatches

[kind hatch]

Spigot-Server as in the the folder generated by BuildTools?

Or is there something I'm missing on stash?

[sullen marlin]

Yes, Spigot/Spigot-Server

(buildtools)

[mortal vortex]

[kind hatch]

I think I have figured it out, but I'm not sure how to send these patches to stash now.

[kind hatch]

Does anyone know what spigot changes when it comes to chunk loading?
Cause I am having trouble with chunks not unloading and I can't seem to pin down why.

I also can't find any related settings that would mess with it either

[umbral ridge]

there is a setting in spigot or bukkit.yml that lets you control when the server unloads chunks, maybe you have changed it

[kind hatch]

What setting specifically?

[thorn isle]

Chunk gc iirc, but I don't think it has done anything since mojang reworked the system in 1.13 or 1.14

[quaint basin]

https://pastes.dev/yBX1xTfrmj Here, the CraftPlayer instance remains active even after the player leaves for 12 hours because the lifetime is 12 hours?

If this code is executed for the player ofc

[thorn isle]

I think so yes though I'm not 100% sure if the player disconnecting will clear it

One would think it would, but reasonable assumptions are off the table in thus ecosystem

[quaint basin]

I asked if the instance remains active when the player logs out

[thorn isle]

Have you taken a spark alloc sample yet

[quaint basin]

I have 60 craftplayer instances with 10 onlines

[chrome beacon]

What do you do with this dialog

[quaint basin]

to say the price of the item to put in /ah

[thorn isle]

Which craftplayer? I see a bunch of humanentities

[quaint basin]

Actually, this is for searching for items in /ah by a specific name

[thorn isle]

Which line are we talking about

[chrome beacon]

Yeah but what are you doing with the object

[quaint basin]

Isn't a Human Entity a Craftplayer?

[quaint basin]

what object

[chrome beacon]

The dialog

[quaint basin]

https://pastes.dev/7ni1wauISP just to send to the player

i send all the code

[thorn isle]

yes but i need to know what reference we are talking about

[quaint basin]

This fixes the leak, if there was one btw

[chrome beacon]

??

[thorn isle]

if we're talking about the humanEntity variable which is passed to the lambda, yes, that is strongly referenced by the lambda

[chrome beacon]

What fixes the leak

[thorn isle]

which in turn will be strongly referenced by the action callback system until the dialog gets unregistered from it

[quaint basin]

kk

[thorn isle]

which,

[quaint basin]

https://imgur.com/a/rhLwwy5

[thorn isle]

i doubt that

[quaint basin]

doubt what

[thorn isle]

that that has anything to do with a leak that'd be related to the humanEntity variable

have you taken an alloc sample yet? i'm not talking about a heap dump

[quaint basin]

I can send you the heap dump if you want

[quaint basin]

idk how do this

[thorn isle]

upload it on heaphero.io and share the link here

spark sampler start --alloc

[quaint basin]

this can crash/lag the server?

[thorn isle]

to the same extent as spark sampler start can crash or lag your server

it's a sampler

--alloc makes it sample memory allocations instead of cpu time spent

[quaint basin]

spark sampler start --alloc
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] Stopping the background profiler before starting... please wait
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] Starting a new profiler, please wait...
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] Allocation Profiler is now running! (async)
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] It will run in the background until it is stopped by an admin.
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] To stop the profiler and upload the results, run:
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] /spark profiler stop
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] To view the profiler while it's running, run:
[21:36:02 INFO]: [⚡] /spark profiler open

when should i stop?

[thorn isle]

it was the first thing i recommended because it's fast and easy and convenient and rules out allocation pressure problems, so it's a good first step

but i suppose we are pretty late for the first step by now

run it when you're having the issue

[quaint basin]

https://imgur.com/a/kDye4Ik

idk if this is a issue

[thorn isle]

or more ideally, run it when you're not having the issue, to get a baseline; and then also run a separate session when you are having the issue, so you can compare

the same best practices as cpu time sampling apply

[wet breach]

they can be NPC's and doesn't inherently mean player

[thorn isle]

in this context since it's a dialog it's almost certainly going to be a player, but the issue is that the Audience and like 10 other references in the class "are probably craftplayer", so just saying craftplayer doesn't really make for an answerable question

either way

yes, this is almost certainly a memory leak

i vaguely remember someone complaining about this at paper

the custom click action is basically just a command callback wrapper; the same problem iirc does or did apply to adventure/paper clickable text component callbacks

which i find extremely silly, and which is why i just do my own command callbacks with an explicit referent so you can reason about the gc and explicitly clear it if desired

i would probably do the same for dialogs; or if you want to keep using this as is, you can wrap the player you pass to the lambda in a weak reference

or in this case, since you get an audience of who clicked the button from the callback itself, just cast the audience to player - that's the player you showed the dialog to, there's no need to keep a strong reference to them

this will still leak any other references in the lambda, meaning shit like plugin reloads is going to leak like a sieve, but that is not as operationally significant as leaking player references

[kind hatch]

I can't really tell if this is doing anything either tbh.

[kind hatch]

Is there an easy way to revert/not include certain spigot patches when compiling spigot?
Or do I have to revert everything by hand?

[buoyant viper]

u can just delete the patch file i think

idk

[kind hatch]

I tried that already. Does not seem to work as I expected it to.

[buoyant viper]

rip

[kind hatch]

Ohhhh wait

I had to run applyPatches after deleting the patch files

Frickin patch workflows man

[buoyant viper]

F

[kind hatch]

Now for the fun part.

I get to binary search the entire patch history to find a little problematic one that I need to fix

I love having to do the shotgun blast approach

[buoyant viper]

😭

wtf is bro changing...

[slender elbow]

git bisect my beloved

[worldly ingot]

bisect is too complex for my little head

I understand it and how it works, I just go stupid mode when I try to use it

[slender elbow]

aw poor baby

[mortal vortex]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[sterile horizon]

Can anyone help me with Minecraft server

[robust helm]

yes, especially in #help-server

[hot temple]

If anyone want custom plugin or best authentication plugin i can give you for Money

[robust helm]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[hot temple]

Yes

[mortal vortex]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[hot temple]

Yes dm

[robust helm]

whaaaat

[smoky anchor]

Read the effin bot message. This is no place to offer anything.
Also, the best authentication is not running an offline server ;)

[fast quarry]

Hello, i'm on intellij idea ultimate, do anyone know why nothing is imported after i sync gradle changes? I installed 1.21.11 version of spigot via buildtools just before, tried to restart my pc but nothing changed :(

build.gradle:

plugins {
    id 'java'
    id 'com.gradleup.shadow' version '8.3.0'
    id("io.freefair.lombok") version "8.13.1"
}

group = 'me.mingolino'
version = '1.0-SNAPSHOT'

repositories {
    mavenCentral()
    mavenLocal()
}

dependencies {
    compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot:1.21.11-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'
}

targetCompatibility = sourceCompatibility = '21'
compileJava.options.encoding = 'UTF-8'
setLibsDirName('../server3/plugins')

Solution : it's not R0.1 but R0.2 for 1.21.11

[buoyant viper]

need the spigot repository also

?wiki

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/

[fast quarry]

if i installed spigot with buildtools, why mavenLocal() is not enough?
in my previous plugin, it was enough (in 1.21.6)

[lilac dagger]

It should still be enough

Show dependency

[fast quarry]

where?

[lilac dagger]

Maybe you're using the remapped and haven't clicked it in buildtools

From your gradle

[fast quarry]

images are not allowed here, can i dm you?

[lilac dagger]

Sure

Uses 1.21.11 version but he was on R0.1 while he needed R0.2 instead

[robust helm]

they are for verified users btw

[fast quarry]

thx

[quaint basin]

yea i see. thanks

I'm getting this error in the playerQuitEvent. Is it because I'm trying to do block #getType on a unloaded world?

[thorn isle]

i don't know, i left my crystal ball at home

[quaint basin]

i forget to send the error lol: Chunk system has shut down, cannot process chunk requests in world '00000000-0000-0000-0009-01f7709f4042' at (0,0) status: minecraft:full

I have this error when doing block#getType in unloadMinionInternalLogic. The problem is that this method is only called if the world is loaded, so I don't understand why I'm getting this error.

https://pastes.dev/Wtv6sixncM

[kind hatch]

After a serious amount of time testing, I have found that my issue does not stem from chunk loading, but rather entity activation range.
I spent far too long on this since initially the settings in the spigot config weren't applying, but for some reason, they work today.
I blame this on my hardware. I think I finally understand the need for ECC memory.
-# It's a damn shame it's so fucking expensive

Now I can finally move on to what I was originally going to do

[meager estuary]

Hey everyone! I’m currently developing a unique, first-of-its-kind Minecraft project: a 1:1 scale Anime Dungeon RPG.

The project features:

Cyber-style Hub: A mid-sized spawn with a futuristic aesthetic.

Custom NPCs: Fully integrated systems for trading and gear upgrades.

Multiverse Portals: A dedicated zone where each portal leads to a different anime-themed world.

RPG Mechanics: A custom leveling system and unique textures for full immersion.

I’m looking for passionate people to join the team. If you're interested in building something truly new, DM me for details!

[chrome beacon]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[thorn isle]

stack trace

[quaint basin]

https://pastes.dev/EMYzNuKpSP

[thorn isle]

is the server shutting down?

[quaint basin]

no

[thorn isle]

is 8b59144e-7bbf-425d-a496-28bd07094e2b the same world the player was in?

[quaint basin]

not guaranteed

he can may be or not

[thorn isle]

            World world;

            try {
                world = bukkitMinion.getLocation().getWorld();
            } catch (IllegalArgumentException ignored) {
                minionService.remove(bukkitMinion.getUuid(), false, false);
                plugin.debug("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unloaded: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
                continue;
            }

this doesn't check if a world is loaded

[quaint basin]

An exception is thrown if the world is unloaded, no?

[thorn isle]

on bukkit Location? no

Location.world is nullable

[quaint basin]

/**
* Gets the world that this location resides in
*
* @return World that contains this location, or {@code null} if it is not set
* @throws IllegalArgumentException when world is unloaded
* @see #isWorldLoaded()
*/
@UndefinedNullability // Paper

[thorn isle]

World that contains this location, or {@code null} if it is not set

[quaint basin]

i have world null check after

World world;

            try {
                world = bukkitMinion.getLocation().getWorld();
            } catch (IllegalArgumentException ignored) {
                Bukkit.getLogger().warning("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unloaded: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
                continue;
            }

            if (world == null) {
                Bukkit.getLogger().warning("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unavailable: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
                continue;
            }

[thorn isle]

let me check what the source actually does

[quaint basin]

kk thanks

[thorn isle]

okay yeah it's a Reference now

consider using Location::isWorldLoaded for clarity however

[quaint basin]

    /**
     * Gets the world that this location resides in
     *
     * @return World that contains this location, or {@code null} if it is not set
     * @throws IllegalArgumentException when world is unloaded
     * @see #isWorldLoaded()
     */
    @UndefinedNullability // Paper
    public World getWorld() {
        if (this.world == null) {
            return null;
        }

        World world = this.world.get();
        Preconditions.checkArgument(world != null, "World unloaded");
        return world;
    }

        /**
     * Checks if world in this location is present and loaded.
     *
     * @return true if is loaded, otherwise false
     */
    public boolean isWorldLoaded() {
        if (this.world == null) {
            return false;
        }

        World world = this.world.get();
        return world != null && Bukkit.getWorld(world.getUID()) != null;
    }

this does not make sense

[thorn isle]

not sure what this is then, since the world is loaded but the chunk system is "shut down"; my only guess is the world is presently being unloaded, but that sounds a bit too coincidental to be true

[quaint basin]

The isWorldLoaded check has one more check which is to use Bukkit#getWorld

[thorn isle]

try using that and see if that helps

iunno

[quaint basin]

I believe this is an error in the paper api no?

[quaint basin]

I don't see how that makes sense.

[thorn isle]

looks fine to me

[quaint basin]

Why does location#isWorldLoaded use Bukkit#getWorld and location#getWorld doesn't, even though getWorld should guarantee that the returned world is loaded?

[thorn isle]

i don't know

[quaint basin]

So it doesn't make sense to you too xd

[thorn isle]

it makes sense in the sense that maybe the world exists in nms but not bukkit, or some such; i could see why that extra check could be there, but since it isn't documented, i don't know why it is there

either way, try that and see if it makes a difference

right

that's a java Reference<World>

i assumed it was some nms codec registry bullshit

getWorld only throws if the world has been unloaded and garbage collected

i.e. the world object no longer exists in the runtime

if it still exists in the runtime, because it's for example strongly referenced by some entity, it won't throw and will return the unloaded world

isWorldLoaded checks that the world object exists and that the world is actually still registered in the server and loaded

so @throws IllegalArgumentException when world is unloaded this is misleading or incorrect

[quaint basin]

i see

[thorn isle]

it isn't guaranteed to throw if it's unloaded, but it might

[quaint basin]

this should be clear ig

if (!bukkitMinion.getLocation().isWorldLoaded()) {
  plugin.debug("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unloaded: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
  continue;
}

World world = bukkitMinion.getLocation().getWorld();

(...)

Do I have to change to this then?

[thorn isle]

however strictly speaking the doc doesn't say "if and only if the world is unloaded", so it's not strictly wrong

it's just misleading

[quaint basin]

yes is not wrong

yea

but should be more clear

[thorn isle]

myes

yeah add the isWorldLoaded check in there

[quaint basin]

i'll replace all this code:

World world;

            try {
                world = bukkitMinion.getLocation().getWorld();
            } catch (IllegalArgumentException ignored) {
                minionService.remove(bukkitMinion.getUuid(), false, false);
                plugin.debug("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unloaded: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
                continue;
            }

            bukkitMinion.getLocation().isWorldLoaded()

            if (world == null) {
                minionService.remove(bukkitMinion.getUuid(), false, false);
                plugin.debug("Skipping minion unload on player quit because its world is unavailable: " + bukkitMinion.getLocation());
                continue;
            }

[quaint basin]

by this

[thorn isle]

myes

[gentle inlet]

are there any public codebases for the main core plugin for big mc servers, which I could learn and take inspiration from?

[mortal hare]

export const RegisterDataWriteError = {
  USER_ALREADY_EXISTS: "USER_ALREADY_EXISTS",
} as const;
export type RegisterDataWriteError = ValueOf<typeof RegisterDataWriteError>;

export type GenerateUserId = () => UserId;
export type CreateUser = (username: Username) => Promise<UserId>;
export type WriteUser = (id: UserId, username: Username) => Promise<UserId>;
export type FindUserIdByUsername = (username: Username) => Promise<UserId | undefined>;

doesnt seem to fit anywhere

[ivory sleet]

probably just apply basic dependency inversion logic to how it fits ur code base layers

and I mean, TS has STE and btw ur problem isn't really an FP problem

[kind hatch]

Ayooo, when did spigot get hashes?

{
    "name": "4624",
    "description": "Jenkins build 4624",
    "refs": {
        "BuildData": "1766f29a5430bb246f77e2fe24debb93a26a587d",
        "Bukkit": "330fe805d8a4cdd955b4b8bad51ac9f018732745",
        "CraftBukkit": "6faf826d9bdba7149233ed8eb8e1a4039b933669",
        "Spigot": "566f9723ddc5625b20aaa5f7acee9e8328ba5399"
    },
    "hashes": {
        "CraftBukkit": "ab935aa6306712dab3bd027c90be4bf3207a4a5cd7ca7fb7a5b5c00b97066069",
        "Spigot": "b9387407a71e92f67be5b6dac91b5a633b8d672137945164ce92b1b36906ef7c"
    },
    "toolsVersion": 197,
    "javaVersions": [69, 70]
}

Hmmm, these are not the kind of hashes I thought they were.

What are they for then?

Rather, what are they hashes of?

[slender elbow]

i don't know

[young knoll]

Is it the git commit hash?

[slender elbow]

that would be the ref above

[mortal vortex]

I get the feeling you do know and are gatekeeping

[sullen marlin]

theyre hashes of the jars produced by Jenkins but unfortunately I dont think the build is 100% reproducible always yet

some stupid non reproducibility on some maven plugin or something that I didnt get far enough chasing down

but if you can reproduce them, then great job

[kind hatch]

How would one go about checking that?

Using our own Jenkins instance?

[buoyant viper]

every copy of spigot is personalized...

[sullen marlin]

build twice on two different PCs and check if the hashes match

they probably wont

then use a tool like diffoscope to find out where they don't and try and fix it

if they do match, then yay I guess

[kind hatch]

As part of the jenkins pipeline or with BT the regular way?

[sullen marlin]

I think any way

I doubt it's jenkins itself introducing the non-reproduceability

you'll see it was a year ago I was exploring this

CB commits:

a4b0b9b255a19c043bd0ad5f20acfd1481635a9c
debf62aecb049be4a6d0bcca3d3644c9d5f1d054
3f33bb772b7fcc83393483a76c6d7f3c37976251

shows specialsource and file system permissions were at least two issues that have been resolved

idk what's left

[kind hatch]

Wow, I didn't even know file permissions could contribute to the problem.

I know hashing is based on how you do it.
I just wouldn't have thought that permissions were involved in it.

[sullen marlin]

it's because .jar files can have file permissions in them

so if the permission is different, the .jar is different and so the hash is different

[kind hatch]

Doing a quick look around and I see that maven 4.0 might have a solution

Need it to officially release tho

[sullen marlin]

Im sure its possible in Maven 3, I just didn't get there for whatever reason

[kind hatch]

Ahh yea it is, I'm seeing that everything related to it is pointing to a maven-artifact-plugin and even the reproducability page says

There is no Maven version prerequisite. Everything happens at plugin level:

I take it I'm just supposed to slap the plugin into the craftbukkit/spigot pom and go from there?

[sullen marlin]

I doubt that is the source of the non reproduciability

I would start by identifying the differences --- see above

diffoscope is best run in docker due to large amount of dependencies

As the Maven page says: " Really checking reproducibility requires to rebuild from a completely different setup: this is harder to do, even if containers may ease the task."

[kind hatch]

Aww man. I hate docker.
-# (Only cause I'm bad at using it)

You wouldn't happen to have a docker image for that would you? 👉 👈

This ubuntu downtime is really making it hard to install the things I need

[mortal vortex]

u just got ghosted by the big md kek

[kind hatch]

Yea, my fault for askin fr fr

But actually, I can't even find a good/working mirror to download from and it's throwing a major wrench in this

I might have to revisit this when the ubuntu repos are back up and running

[halcyon meadow]

how do i block putting stuff into bundles

pls help

[sullen marlin]

docker run -ti --rm -w $(pwd) -v $(pwd):$(pwd):ro registry.salsa.debian.org/reproducible-builds/diffoscope ./First.jar ./Second.jar

[halcyon meadow]

.

[quaint basin]

If I have multiple backend servers behind a Velocity server, is it possible for the asyncplayerpreloginevent event from multiple backends to be called for the same UUID simultaneously?

[young knoll]

I don’t see how that would happen

Unless the backends are exposed directly, but they shouldn’t be

[quaint basin]

Do you know why HuskSync lets the player log in and blocks the user from performing any actions until inventory data, playtime, etc. are fetched, instead of blocking the player from logging in until everything is fetched?

[young knoll]

No idea

[quaint basin]

Does Velocity simply redirect players to a specific server? Can't it redirect a player to server B even if they are being processed in the asyncplayerprelogin on server A?

Or the velocity have some validations

@tender shard https://github.com/WiIIiam278/HuskSync/issues/585 https://github.com/WiIIiam278/HuskSync/pull/614

should I enable or disable?

[robust helm]

velocity runs in front of your minecraft server

asyncplayerlrogin should only be called at the server the player is sent to

you could have them connect to server A and in the prelogin event make velocity move the player to server B

but i dont see why you would need to do that

[quaint basin]

If I create a synchronization plugin that depends on this, I need to handle everything independently of the infrastructure

What I can do is add a lock to AsyncPreLoginEvent and release the lock until the data is fetched, and if another server is locked while processing this event, then set result as not_accepted

[thorn isle]

Yes; anything before login itself can happen on any number of backends in any order, including when the player is online and connected to another backend

[halcyon meadow]

.

[thorn isle]

So the player can be briefly connected to multiple backends at a time (though logged into just one at a time)

This is why husksync does the hacks it does

[quaint basin]

so i can do this

I think it's a better solution than HuskSync approach

[thorn isle]

Depends

[quaint basin]

of what

[thorn isle]

On what you need the data for and when

[quaint basin]

The data refers to the player's inventory/enderchest data etc and I need it as quickly as possible

It's pointless for a player to join the server if they can't do anything

[thorn isle]

Husksync needs to do it the way it does and has no other alternative because it has an api that promises the data is ready on join and only "owned" by one server at a time

Inventory sync is a prime example of this

[quaint basin]

I didn't understand that

[sly topaz]

if you're fancy, you could mess with configuration phase to add a configuration task specifically for fetching the inventory

[quaint basin]

inventory sync u mean this? https://modrinth.com/plugin/inventory-syncs/changelog

[young knoll]

Ah yeah I guess the player would still be connected to backend A while joining backend B

[thorn isle]

I have discussed this problem and possible solutions with others here

[sly topaz]

is the inventory loaded though

[thorn isle]

It can be

[sly topaz]

does the player keep connection on both servers past configuration phase for that to be the case

[thorn isle]

The player joins one server before they leave the previous

In practice config usually takes enough for the player to quit the previous server before joining the next, but that is by no means a guarantee

And there are no async config prejoin events or such that you can manually delay without blocking the main thread

There is prelogin, but that happens before the proxy triggers the quitting on the previous server

[sly topaz]

you have to do some hackery to add your own configuration tasks, yeah

[thorn isle]

This is what I ended up doing as well

[quaint basin]

But simply preventing the player from entering server B if they haven't completely left server A yet

[thorn isle]

Well you can't without blocking the main thread

[quaint basin]

If the playerquitevent on server A is called, then the player's inventory can no longer be updated (unless some plugin does it)

[thorn isle]

Because the player won't leave the previous server before logging into the next

[sly topaz]

that's usually how proxies work, you can't avoid it unless you were using something like transfer packet which I assume can work differently

[thorn isle]

There are a few hacks, like kicking the player

That makes them quit before velocity sends them to a fallback server

[sly topaz]

that sounds fun