help-development

[chrome beacon]

ouch

thought it would be

[rare ether]

if it were my previous code would handle it i think. this one: java final Block block = event.getClickedBlock(); final Player player = event.getPlayer(); final Plot eventPlot; if(block != null) { eventPlot = PlotManager.getInstance().getPlot(block.getChunk()); if(ProtectionUtil.canPlayerAffect(player, eventPlot)) return; event.setCancelled(true); }

ill set the event to always cancel just to be sure it isnt issue with detecting

yeah cancelling the event with no conditions doesnt do it either

ill try cancelling BlockPhysicsEvent

[chrome beacon]

The interact event is the right one

You can see it working here https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/nms-patches/net/minecraft/world/level/block/BlockRedstoneOre.patch#31

[rare ether]

.

it may be used for detecting but cancelling doesnt work

[chrome beacon]

And you're testing on Spigot?

also is the listener triggering

[rare ether]

yeah

[rare ether]

yeah cuz it prevents me from doing literally anything else

[sly topaz]

so, PHYSICAL interaction just isn't triggering is what you're saying

[rare ether]

no well it is

but it doesnt seem to correspond to redstone ore lighting up

because cancelling it with no conditions at all prevents other things but not this

[sly topaz]

that might just be a bug, though it's hard to say

[rare ether]

maybe thats intented idk, but im just looking for a way to make it work

[sly topaz]

you could cancel the BlockRedstoneEvent

[rare ether]

i already do

it only works for certain redstone components like dust, repeaters etc

doesnt even work for pistons

i mean i do it on a condition so ill try with no condition

i forgot its not cancellable lol

so no thats not it

[sly topaz]

it might just be that the redstone ore lighting up is a client side effect, but let me check just to be sure

[rare ether]

i m pretty sure that it can be detected by detectors but i didnt bother to check my bad, lemme just check that

but i think since 1.13 its server side

[chrome beacon]

yeah that's it

Just tested it myself, the effect only shows up for the player walking on the ore

[young knoll]

Doesn’t it involve a state change though

It triggers block updates afaik

[chrome beacon]

It desyncs from the client

Probably only triggers once on the server but multiple times on the client or smth

causing them to go out of sync

[sly topaz]

I wonder if cancelling block physics altogether does anything

[chrome beacon]

probably not

[young knoll]

Probably client prediction then

[sly topaz]

I don't get what I am supposed to be looking at lol

[chrome beacon]

The ore not glowing after the player standing on the ore

It however glowing on the Dummy account

since they are on the ore

[sly topaz]

ohh

so, yeah it is a client side thing

@rare ether sadly there's nothing you can do about it

an alternative would be to layer it with a block display of the block so that it never looks lit up

[rare ether]

ill check with a detector now, if its only client side that fine

i didnt consider it could be only client side mb

[sly topaz]

the current changes so a detector would in fact detect that

[young knoll]

Current?

Nothing should be changing server side when the event is cancelled

[rare ether]

yeah i just checked my code works, its just client side glowing now

[sly topaz]

I mean normally, not when the event is cancelled

[rare ether]

so the playerinteract one is actually the one

in the future ill try some packet shenanigans to fix it client side but its find if its just cosmetic, i shouldve looked on the other client im testing this on but i didnt think about it

sorry for wasting everyones times lol

and thank you guys so much for the help ❤️

[sly topaz]

there's nothing in the server you can do about it, even with packets

but as said, you can put a block display on top so that it doesn't loop like it is lit up, if anything

[rare ether]

are you 100% i couldn't fix the client-side prediction by sending an update which says that the ore has stopped being lit up?

i think id work but i have an easy way to test that theory

give me a minute

[sly topaz]

the thing is, the server has stopped lighting the block, but the client just doesn't see it that way

[sly topaz]

as you can see here

if other players look at it, it doesn't look lit up

[rare ether]

lemme tell you sth

because these are two possible scenarious

1. the block actually gets lit up and everyone gets and update from the server and sees it

2. the effect is just client side, because its just client prediction and server never sent anything

right now the second thing is happening

HOWEVER

[sly topaz]

both things are happening

[young knoll]

You could probably sendBlockChange to the player to stop it from glowing

Probably gotta have a 1 tick delay though

[sly topaz]

if it is client side it'd glow regardless of whether it is a fake block no?

though I guess that would revert the state change maybe, worth a try

[rare ether]

i just did an experiment: Player1 triggered the ore to light up. Player2 joined after 15 seconds. both players saw the ore stop glowing in the same exact moment

so

[young knoll]

Not it you set it to the unlit state

[rare ether]

there are two options

either server sends an information about remaining glow time to the player joining

or

it sends a packet after the glow effect stops

if its the second it should be possible

thats why im asking if you're 100% sure @sly topaz

[young knoll]

It’s the later

[rare ether]

is there a quick way i can do this rn? i have little experience with minecraft protocol but i thought it might be possible

[rare ether]

that's perfectly fine

[sly topaz]

sendBlockChange is an API method

Player#sendBlockChange to be more specific

[young knoll]

Just do a quick Material.REDSTONE_ORE.createBlockData(), set the lit property to false, and then sendBlockChange the block data

[rare ether]

im just sending the state of the ore after cancelling the event, lemme see if it works

[young knoll]

True, that should work too

You’ll probably need a 1 tick delay is my guess

[rare ether]

idk what happened but the detector sees it again lol i broke sth

[sly topaz]

Bukkit.getScheduler().runTask(YourPlugin.instance(), task -> {
 var data = (Lightable) Material.REDSTONE_ORE.createBlockData();
 data.setLit(false);
 player.sendBlockChange(clickedBlock.getLocation(), data);
});

[rare ether]

okay so as someone has mentioned earlier the method for detecting the change by looking for a block below is mediocare at best and when walking off an edge of a block the event can still pass

[smoky oak]

.

[rare ether]

the client side fix though: event.getPlayer().sendBlockChange(blockBelow.getLocation(), blockBelow.getBlockData()); worked

but i still have to think of a reliable method for detecting when the interaction happens, ill try BlockPhysicsEvent maybe

[sly topaz]

wait, didn't the player interact event fire for it?

just use that

[rare ether]

i think it fired but PlayerInteractEvent doesn't provide the block for physical interactions according to javadoc

so i have a flawed method of detecting it

[sly topaz]

I am not sure what you mean

[rare ether]

check the javadoc

you'll understand

[sly topaz]

I do not

if PlayerInteractEvent fires for it consistently, then just cancelling it + sending the block change should be good

[rare ether]

okay, and how do i check what block the player interacts with

[sly topaz]

isn't clicked block the block interacted in this instance

[rare ether]

no

check the javadoc

[sly topaz]

it seems to be

[young knoll]

Where does the javadoc say it’ll be null

I only see that for getClickedPosistion

[rare ether]

it actually seems like it is, i just tested that

ill report it cuz the docs should be more clear about it

it clearly says in the description that its the clicked block

[sly topaz]

it is the clicked block though, you're clicking the block with your ass pressure

[rare ether]

hahhaha lol hard to argue with that

[sly topaz]

(for those who don't get the joke)

[rare ether]

getClickedBlocks works, why did i even bother writing that detection lol

i actually wanna report that because the name is needlessly confusing

do i just do that on forums?

[sly topaz]

?jira

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa

[sullen canyon]

what do you imply by so called "ass"?

[sullen marlin]

Is the issue that you don't click with your ass?

I guess it could be getInteractedPosition or something

But it's been that way for 15 years

[rare ether]

i think it'd just be great if the description in the doc mention that it also covers not clicked blocks

[sullen marlin]

Yeah that's easy

Just put it on jira

[rare ether]

Okay, thanks ❤️

[sly topaz]

it is a running joke that when the player triggers something by stepping on it, it is because of ass pressure

didn't think I'd have to explain it lol

[sullen canyon]

🐒

ass.

[young knoll]

Maybe you don’t

[bronze robin]

can i not use placeholders for for skins

on fancynpcs

and also my deluxemenus dont actually work

my warps menu dont do shit

[chrome beacon]

Sounds like a question for #help-server

[sullen marlin]

--- a/src/main/java/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEvent.java
+++ b/src/main/java/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEvent.java
@@ -159,9 +159,9 @@ public class PlayerInteractEvent extends PlayerEvent implements Cancellable {
     }
 
     /**
-     * Returns the clicked block
+     * Returns the block that was interacted with.
      *
-     * @return Block returns the block clicked with this item.
+     * @return Block returns the block interacted with.
      */
     @Nullable
     public Block getClickedBlock() {
@@ -169,9 +169,9 @@ public class PlayerInteractEvent extends PlayerEvent implements Cancellable {
     }
 
     /**
-     * Returns the face of the block that was clicked
+     * Returns the face of the block that was interacted with.
      *
-     * @return BlockFace returns the face of the block that was clicked
+     * @return BlockFace returns the face of the block that was interacted with
      */
     @NotNull
     public BlockFace getBlockFace() {
@@ -180,7 +180,7 @@ public class PlayerInteractEvent extends PlayerEvent implements Cancellable {
 
     /**
      * This controls the action to take with the block (if any) that was
-     * clicked on. This event gets processed for all blocks, but most don't
+     * interacted with. This event gets processed for all blocks, but most don't
      * have a default action
      *
      * @return the action to take with the interacted block

How's this?

[rare ether]

Since the getClickedBlock name is actively misleading a little nudge by saying something like @return Block returns the block interacted with, even if the interaction was not actually clicking on the block or some adnotation with similar meaning is in place imo. But the rest are imo fine because their names do not suggest anything else than they actually do. I really appreciate you making this changes ❤️

[sullen marlin]

    /**
     * Returns the block that was interacted with, even if the interaction was
     * {@link Action#PHYSICAL} rather than clicking on the block.
     *
     * @return Block returns the block interacted with.
     */
    @Nullable
    public Block getClickedBlock() {
        return blockClicked;
    }```

[rare ether]

that's perfect

[tawny osprey]

Hello can someone kindly explain the RegisteredServiceProvider class pleasee

[hardy garnet]

Is manual world saving syncronous?

yes right?

[stiff mist]

server is on 1.21.8 when players join in 1.8 scoreboard is on half cant see another half of scoreboard and world on 1.21.8 is mach deaper so when i dig hole for factions base and player form lower version joins can see anything evrythingis black
pics https://postimg.cc/tZ3Zzbbk

paying for help

[sly topaz]

any kind of saving is synchronous

[sly topaz]

it is a class that is used for the service provider API, would be more helpful to understand what you're trying to do with it though

[sly topaz]

is this your plugin you're talking about? Because if not this goes to #help-server

[spiral roost]

I'll give PacketEvents a look, thanks for the tip!

[tawny osprey]

i think i got the gist of it, ty though 😄

[onyx fjord]

how does storing PDC look when there's multiple worlds?

for the player

what i mean is - is it tied to a world or copied over as soon as player travels to a world

or kept in one

[chrome beacon]

If you attatch a pdc tag to the player it would be kept when changing world

It's tied directly to the players data not a specific world

[tranquil oyster]

Did anyone work with Scarpet? ``` __on_use_item(player, item, hand) -> (
if (item~'id' == 'minecraft:flint_and_steel' && player~'name' != 'Panyel',
(
player~'send_message'('⚠ Only the realm master can use flint & steel to light portals!');
cancel();
)
)
)

[sullen marlin]

sir this is spigot

[young knoll]

Spigot? I thought this was Spanish class

[tranquil oyster]

Uncultured spigotians

[mortal vortex]

uncivilized spigoter who cant use the right channels

[tranquil oyster]

No i

fk. o meant no u

Anyway, my bad, I mistook this discord for the admincraft one

Have a good kne

[mortal vortex]

have a good kne too brah

[wooden bay]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-jeff-marvel-rivals-absolute-cinema-gif-13695558822116321078

[worldly ingot]

What the fuck is Scarpet? What!?

Where do these server implementations come from!?

Ah it's a gnembon creation lmao https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/carpet

[burnt trench]

Anybody willing to make a Server Software with me (fork), that focuses on performance and stability?

[pseudo hazel]

is there nothing existing that works for your usecase?

[burnt trench]

I wanna do it myself, with privace stability performance etc.

[smoky anchor]

well decide, alone or with ppl

[burnt trench]

I want to make it with 5 devs max mby

[smoky anchor]

Will it be in Rust at least ?

[burnt trench]

Java 💀 its minecraft

[smoky anchor]

"its minecraft" ok and ?

[burnt trench]

If you can make minecraft in rust, ok fine

[smoky anchor]

there are server softwares for Minecraft Java client that are made in different languages

anyways I was just making a joke

[burnt trench]

Anybody willing to make a Server Software with me (fork), that focuses on performance and stability?

(Language = Java)

(DM me)

[vast ledge]

https://github.com/Minestom/Minestom

[burnt trench]

self-made I said

[vast ledge]

Did you read what it is?

[burnt trench]

Im terribly sorry

Does it allow paper and spigot plugins tho?

[vast ledge]

No, it says that in the readme

Do you understand what "writing my own server" means?

If you wrote your own server, paper / spigot plugins wouldn't run either

[burnt trench]

I said FORK

[smoky anchor]

🥄

[vast ledge]

._.

[smoky anchor]

Best I can do

[burnt trench]

Ima ask it somewhere else

[vast ledge]

If you fork, you're not gonna be able to improve/ make it more private tho

[burnt trench]

facts

I may use Minestom

But not many people will use it because it had no paper support

[vast ledge]

Yea, if you want a fast and efficient/ private server, you're not na wanna add another layer on top of another server software

[burnt trench]

Facts

I will do it

Sorry for my messages btw

[vast ledge]

np xD

[burnt trench]

:P

welp, if anybody wants to join: DM me :P we use minestom :P

[upper cypress]

If you force an interaction entity to ride the player, could the player interact with it?

[grand flint]

wdym interact w it

[upper cypress]

Like will it register your left and right clicks if the entity is riding you

[grand flint]

no?

its riding u

[upper cypress]

I mean like this

If the interactions hitbox overlaps with your LoS

[worldly ingot]

You could try it 👀

[upper cypress]

idk how to code it and vanilla mc doesn't allow entities to ride the player

[grand flint]

so why u asking

[thorn isle]

i don't remember if you can punch your mount while riding it

at a baseline i'd assume yes but i would also understand it not doing that

easy way to check; jump on a boat or on a horse and try punching it

if the entity is riding on the player on the other hand, i don't see any reason why it wouldn't be punchable

[echo basalt]

here's another way to explain it

or in my own words

[young knoll]

Man is talking to himself

[mortal hare]

paper

you wont get anything faster with couple of people than paper which has massive community anyways

if you really want performance you need to make your own server with something like minestom

which in some cases can give you 10-20x performance gains due to how there's situations when something is not needed in NMS that wont be in there

[young knoll]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[young knoll]

@tender shard can I copy your old blog post onto the wiki?

[rotund ravine]

👀 Did i use AI for that

[mortal hare]

honestly tools like skript are not that bad. Its like DSL for bukkit api

it costs efficiency but it allows for best stability across server versions and technologies

for simple things like chat commands, static guis i think its even better to move the functionality to such DSL's or to datapacks

like utility features, since those would be the most stable across server versions the most and those things won't cost as much in terms of performance

or for example you could extend skript parser with expressions to support your server core functionality

like persistence layers, economies, actions etc

that way the game logic itself wouldn't be coded into the game server software itself but in readable format that's easy to port across server versions since those skript files would be linked to proper apis at runtime

its actually the same logic as gta does with mission stuff

it doesnt actually code those missions into the game code, it has its own DSL to script those things outside of the game core engine

for example older gta games had .scm files which carried opcodes for mission stuff

[young knoll]

Pfft, why use skript when you can use JShell

[mortal hare]

because jshell is general purpose, and skript expressions can be domain driven

if you hate skript you can make your own DSL

[young knoll]

What’s wrong with general purpose

[mortal hare]

its just that skript has community support

[mortal hare]

with DSL you describe only what the current functionality supports

with general purpose you can do whatever you want

it just simplifies syntax

a lot

[thorn isle]

i'll categorize this take in the same folder as "we should all move away from plugins and use datapacks"

[mortal hare]

you could

i just prefer domain specific abstractions (DSL, config files with schema validation) over general purpose ones (API's in general purpose langs)

[ivory sleet]

im not sure about stability icl

[young knoll]

I mean it should in theory be as stable as the Bukkit api

[ivory sleet]

thats pure idealism

[young knoll]

Hence the in theory

[thorn isle]

the one thing skript is good for is quickly rigging up something quick and dirty and terrible for, say, a one-off minigame on short notice

even then if you have a decent framework to start with, just rawdogging it with quick and dirty and terrible java is probably going to be faster

[ivory sleet]

i mean maybe for like single threaded, straight forward features like a tp command or something skript would suffice... but anything else you'd quickly be quite limited

sure you could do economies, but how do u handle async saving/loading of the data w skript?

[thorn isle]

there's a lot of syntactic sugar and convenient "qol" things like persistent and global variables that make jerryrigging terrible shit easy and fast

[mortal hare]

that's the thing you would build an expressions which would be parsed to do persistence to a database

[thorn isle]

async saving? who cares

[ivory sleet]

save main thread?

[young knoll]

I would rather use JShell for that

[thorn isle]

the goal is to get it to barely run as soon as possible with as little effort as possible

[ivory sleet]

elaborate

[young knoll]

Scripts syntax is horrendous to me

As someone who is used to more traditional programming syntax

[mortal hare]

you wouldnt build something abstract like persist variable1 to database but expressions like:

persist player Dovias inventory
persist player Dovias winning status

or if you want something more high level you wouldnt even expose such things in the skript expressions themsleves

[thorn isle]

never would i use skript for anything proper or run it on a production server

[mortal hare]

how the expressions would be interpreted that would be up to server's software

having DSL for game actions allows for hotpatching of certain features without restarting the server

for example

[thorn isle]

all of my plugins are reloadable

if your plugin isn't reloadable it's bad

[young knoll]

Hypixel should make their mini games in skript

[mortal hare]

just like you do websites with components nowadays with tools like react or astro you could build your game logic out of DSL expressions

minigames would work really well actually for such case

[thorn isle]

minigames is about the only thing i use skript for

it's very convenient

[ivory sleet]

that's for frontend, sure u can compare that to like some declarative gui framework language or whatever

[thorn isle]

we try to come up with something new every week so writing a skript for it and then tossing it in the trash is quite economical

[ivory sleet]

yes I mean thats for persistence, I more meant lets say you wanna callback on once an io op has been invoked

[mortal hare]

it depends on how big software is actually. some ERP solutions have their own DSL languages

for example Microsoft have X++ for Dynamics 365 ERP to control things programatically

or AWS having lambda expressions

the point of DSL that it abstracts the logic out of the software for good that shouldnt suppose to be

essentially turning your software into rule engine

[ivory sleet]

ye but like x++ is completely out of scope for game dev

[mortal hare]

Grand Theft Auto San Andreas missions internally are coded using .scm files which contain opcodes for certain actions in game

[ivory sleet]

unless its changed last years

[mortal hare]

that's why DYOM mod and Cleo exists

for example

its not as if those missions are hardcoded into gta_sa.exe executable

gta_sa.exe has interpreter for those opcodes and does actions depending on those values from those .scm files

IF IS_BUTTON_PRESSED PAD2 RIGHTSHOULDER1
AND flag_create_car = 1
AND button_press_flag = 0
    IF IS_CAR_DEAD magic_car
        DELETE_CAR magic_car
    ELSE
        IF NOT IS_PLAYER_IN_CAR player magic_car
            DELETE_CAR magic_car
        ELSE
            MARK_CAR_AS_NO_LONGER_NEEDED magic_car
        ENDIF
    ENDIF 
    flag_create_car = 0
    initial_car_selected = 0
    button_press_flag = 1
ENDIF

[young knoll]

A lot of games have scripting systems for quests

But that’s different from the core game logic

[ivory sleet]

bro .scm is not the same as x++ respectfully, they were designed for different purposes

unless there's some terminology im not familiar with here

[mortal hare]

that's just an example
the point of is both are DSL for specific needs

X++ was made to control Dynamics 365 software

[ivory sleet]

keyword specific needs

[mortal hare]

.scm was made for controlling missions ingame

different domains, different syntax

both allow for flexibility high enough to be executed at runtime

[thorn isle]

i spent many years exploring and trying out various solutions to scripting quests

among many others, betonquest

which is probably turing complete and very flexible

but at the end of the day no scripting language is as flexible and robust and convenient than an actual programming language

in my current quest framework, everything is declared in java source

[young knoll]

What about both

JavaScript

[ivory sleet]

JavaSkript?

[thorn isle]

do we even have a lts way of running javascript in java anymore

didn't nashorn kick the bucket?

[young knoll]

KubeJS is a popular mod

It uses Rhino

[ivory sleet]

nashorn back in the days

[young knoll]

https://github.com/mozilla/rhino

[thorn isle]

either way, it's the best architecture decision i think i've ever made; i have type safety and generics, all the benefits of object oriented programming, linting and compile-time-errors and a wide array of things you would have to struggle to get working with a scripting language

[ivory sleet]

but as said like, sure you can have some expression that is interpeted, but as soon as you need fine grained control over things like concurrency, api between plugins etc then ur skript will just become a layer of cumbersomeness

[thorn isle]

and yes this includes abstracted persistence where i just toss shit into a record or a state class and gson magics it into whatever storage medium is configured

[mortal hare]

fine grained control should be handled by server software not the skript

no one's saying that you should put your data inside .csv lol

[ivory sleet]

not talking about other ecosystems and environments given they require other premises

[ivory sleet]

yes but where you do draw the line

sure for something simple as a tp command its pretty obvious

but economy, that can depend

[thorn isle]

unfortunately perfect foresight is rare to have, so "the server will handle it" only works to handwave the problem to the extent where you're working with incredibly tried-and-tested systems

[mortal hare]

where you see the actual functionality and the technical part

if you know the functional requirement you can base where to draw the line on that

[ivory sleet]

what if this changes back and forth as you go deeper and accumulate more dev cycles

where the line isnt constant

business requirements change, tech requirements change inevitably

[mortal hare]

if you get slowed down by the changes back and forth then it mean it deserves to be inside a DSL and not be hardcoded into server software logic

[thorn isle]

like if you've ever tried to build an api that you have to use in another project, you'll know this problem

unless you have perfect foresight, your skript side of things will invariably end up requiring things you weren't able to predict in how "the server will handle it", and now you're weaving between the two to fix and patch this and that and refactor the interfaces and it'll be terrible

[ivory sleet]

yes but then you again land in the issue where too much of your stuff is in DSL, so you when you wanna extend and add to the software, you're restriced by the ABI and API of whatever the DSL provides

[mortal hare]

the same applies with deprecated features overall

what's the deal with skript in this case idk

you cant avoid a problem that something is not working as expected

[thorn isle]

even in super battle-hardened systems where the interfaces are very mature and a lot of people before you have already hit those roadblocks hard enough for them to be refactored out, you will often spend a good portion of your time doing workarounds around "the server will handle it" because you happen to need a specific behavior

[mortal hare]

how designing a DSL is any different than designing an API itself. Gradle DSL is just an suite of API built on top of groovy and kotlin

some DSL use their own rule engines

some dont

[ivory sleet]

im talking about Skript for the Bukkit API

or whatever similar shit

Gradle itself is an entirely different story

[mortal hare]

you refactor both layers. its the same story as refactoring an API

you remove or deprecate those expressions

you can avoid this in either case

[ivory sleet]

the thing here is that groovy and kotlin are more or less isomorphic

[mortal hare]

i've never seen a plugin which has completely stable configuration file across various server versions, neither the DSL would be in such case

[ivory sleet]

skript is not isomorphic to Java

so removing/modifying may have to be done if you use skript, meaning full recompilation, but it doesnt have to be the case if you wrote it in java

[mortal hare]

well i've seen one

[thorn isle]

le configurate versioning

[mortal hare]

EssentialsX

but damn it is crusty

[mortal hare]

you're bringing a point that maintaining one layer is easier than two, sure, that's a valid point but with that you decouple your logic from actual software which powers that logic.
I would personally consider using multiple custom DSL to achieve whatever I want, depending on the type of the feature

one for quests, one for commands, each for minigame type

[ivory sleet]

I mean sure, that could work

[mortal hare]

in high level syntax sense

essentially i've reinvented datapacks

but in custom syntax

[ivory sleet]

im just saying skript in particular, since that was kinda what fired the topic

[mortal hare]

well yeah skript is more general purpose. Im just saying skript is a good candidate just because it has already lots of apis for handling expressions

and you can modify skript to remove specific expressions you dont need

it leaves the hardwork of syntax parsing for skript devs not you

[thorn isle]

the only expression i need is the member reference .

everything else is just syntactic sugar

which, sure, is nice, but i'm not changing languages just to be able to add to a list with +

[ivory sleet]

ye i suppose, the other thing that's a bit problematic with having ur own dsl languages, assuming u're not using something more known is that u dont have any editor highlights, tab completions or static syntax analysis- tho thats less of an issue its still somewhat if a QOL lost

[mortal hare]

on the other side your DSL would already be simple enough to grasp since it would be quite limiting in terms of what it does

[ivory sleet]

that depends on the level of complexity regarding ur DSL

[mortal hare]

the more complexity it has the worse

usually

[ivory sleet]

so about gradle dsl

[mortal hare]

well i do hate gradle dsl a bit

😄

[ivory sleet]

well its not fair to bring up gradle dsl vs minecraft plugin dsls

but yea

[mortal hare]

for example simple dsl for commands (@ symbol means specific argument type, it it doesnt have one its literal, () means positive action, {} negative action, based on that keyword server software searches for a registry with specific action.
actions can be registered via different plugins for example:

• gui plugin could allow you to register action to server core which opens a gui
• command dispatcher plugin could allow you to register actions to server core which allow you to execute collection of server commands

pvp @player(pvp_toggle){pvp_player_not_found} @boolean(pvp_toggle_state){pvp_invalid_state}

[sly topaz]

I like what Skript has built in terms of an stdlib, however the implementation leaves things to desire

[mortal hare]

based on those registered actions, command registration plugin scans the syntax and applies the dispatching

by utilizing mojang's brigadier

[ivory sleet]

how does skript impl work?

[mortal hare]

minimalistic and extensible

[ivory sleet]

does it compile to jvm bytecode, or does it just compose a set of functional interfaces?

[mortal hare]

latter one

[ivory sleet]

or i mean jvm bytecode is probably not...

yea

[sly topaz]

It doesn't compile to bytecode, no

[ivory sleet]

yea and well... invokedynamic is quite fast

[sly topaz]

it just parses the syntax with a rather clunky parser and then matches it to given expressions/effects/sections/events

[ivory sleet]

makes sense

[sly topaz]

in part that's why it works well, since everything is interpreted, makes for easy hot-reloading and all

[ivory sleet]

rather clunky parser
what is meant by this?

like the lexing and parsing is happening in one stage or?

[slender elbow]

I can't imagine parsing English to be very elegant :D

[young knoll]

There’s a version of skript that does compile to bytecode

It has a slightly different syntax though, and much less adoption

It’s called ByteSkript

[sly topaz]

I know about that one, it was made by one of the Skript maintainers it seems

but it doesn't retain compatibility with OG Skript syntax so it has no adoption, not sure if it works properly either

[slender elbow]

skript could really make use of dynalink

[young knoll]

Just ask chatgpt to update it to support the OG syntax

[slender elbow]

but that also implies compiling to bytecode, albeit it's still very dynamic

[young knoll]

What could go wrong

[sly topaz]

it doesn't feel like making it compile to bytecode would be all hard to hack into the current codebase, if it were to be in a similar fashion to what python does

[thorn isle]

does pressing the drop item key while not looking at your inventory fire the inventoryclickevent with the drop_all/one_slot action?

[mortal vortex]

Just a question I have, might make sense with a pretend scenario: suppose we want to have a command which attempts to perform block modifications over a region, and this is run by regular members, i.e, we should respect claims provided by other plugins. For simplicity, we can analogise this to "WorldEdit for normies".

How would you ensure that every single block within that range, atleast from X, Z (disregard Y, as most claim plugins include alll Y ranges), is modifiable by the player running the command? Of course I am aware you can simulate a BlockPlaceEvent, with bogus data, providing atleast a Player and Location (and awiating its cancellation. - external), but is this really efficient? Iterating over the entire region, and firing an event per block?

[eternal oxide]

fire the bukkit event to change each block and only change if the event is not cancelled

[mortal vortex]

and again, as I asked, is that really the smartest solution?

[eternal oxide]

yes

any protection plugin will cancel the event

[mortal vortex]

Right, but you're also iterating over an entire region, which would be O(n), is there nothing smarter?

[eternal oxide]

no

you have to ask other plugins if they will allow you to change each block

[mortal vortex]

Alright, sounds about right.

[wet breach]

If you are using something like world guard you can use math to find what border over laps and what regions are overlapping as well as how far the modification extends outside the region.

You need to learn graph math or vector math if you want to take the math approach and this requires no iterrating

[mortal vortex]

🫃

that would require me to assume all claims are WG regions, not player-made claims

[thorn isle]

It's either building against specific protection plugins to use optimized queries like whether your edit volume overlaps with a worldguard region, or using generic spoofed events that work with any plugin but perform poorly

Generally, building directly against protection plugins is better, but it's good to have the event trick as a fallback that an admin can enable from a config if they have unsupported plugins

[sly flint]

!edit

!help

!code

[smoky anchor]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[sly flint]

ok i have Problem

[11:07:37] [Server thread/ERROR]: [ModernPluginLoadingStrategy] Could not load plugin 'ExcellentServerManager-2.6.jar' in folder 'plugins'
org.bukkit.plugin.InvalidPluginException: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/luckperms/api/node/Node
at io.papermc.paper.plugin.provider.type.spigot.SpigotPluginProvider.createInstance(SpigotPluginProvider.java:127) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at io.papermc.paper.plugin.provider.type.spigot.SpigotPluginProvider.createInstance(SpigotPluginProvider.java:35) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.strategy.modern.ModernPluginLoadingStrategy.loadProviders(ModernPluginLoadingStrategy.java:116) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at io.papermc.paper.plugin.storage.SimpleProviderStorage.enter(SimpleProviderStorage.java:38) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at io.papermc.paper.plugin.entrypoint.LaunchEntryPointHandler.enter(LaunchEntryPointHandler.java:36) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R3.CraftServer.loadPlugins(CraftServer.java:507) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.initServer(DedicatedServer.java:274) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.runServer(MinecraftServer.java:1131) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$spin$0(MinecraftServer.java:319) ~[paper-1.20.4.jar:git-Paper-496]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/luckperms/api/node/Node
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) ~[?:?]
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source) ~[?:?]
at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.<init>(PluginClassLoader.java:78) ~[paper-api-1.20.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
at

https://pastes.dev/XGQQNvyo3v

[smoky anchor]

1. paper, I would advise you go to their discord
2. do you depend on Luckyperms in your plugin.yml ?
3. please tell me you do not have 1.6k lines long class

[young knoll]

Oh boy

Who doesn’t love a nice god class

[quaint mantle]

Is this a good way to check if two block locations are adjacent?
locationA.distanceSquared(locationB) == 1.00d

I couldn't find a built-in method on Bukkit api

[wooden bay]

Use Manhattan distance (sum of axis differences)

[quaint mantle]

you are right lol. I already had that method somewhere and forgot about it

return Math.abs(a.getX() - b.getX()) + Math.abs(a.getY() - b.getY());

[young knoll]

Don’t forget the Z

[quaint mantle]

I don't need the Z in my particular case, but thanks for reminding me. It's for stuff on a 2D plane

[wooden bay]

    public boolean areAdjacent(Block a, Block b) {
        return (Math.abs(a.getX() - b.getX()) +
                Math.abs(a.getY() - b.getY()) +
                Math.abs(a.getZ() - b.getZ())) == 1;
    }

This should work

[quaint mantle]

it's called Manhattan distance because of taxis 🚕 lol. it's fun

[sharp dagger]

Hello, is there a way to update or set water to not flow just in one direction, but be able to flow in other?
For example I have this code:

    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockFromTo(BlockFromToEvent e) {
        Island island = ((IslandStore)plugin.getIslandStore()).get(e.getToBlock().getLocation());
        if(island == null || !island.isIn(e.getToBlock().getLocation())) {
            e.setCancelled(true);
        }
    }

If I place water on the edge it calls this function just once and will not flow in other directions where it could flow?

[sly topaz]

you can't change the way the water flows by cancelling an event, however you can change it by modifying the terrain

what you can do is probably is place barrier blocks in the server side so it flows the way you want and send block changes to the players so they don't notice these are there

not ideal, but that's probably what you'll have to do

it is either that or directly modifying the server logic that deals with that, which wouldn't be easy on Spigot

[thorn isle]

It might almost be easier to toss out the vanilla water flow logic altogether and manually place blocks to create "flow"

But unless you really need this for some reason, I wouldn't bother, it will be super involved one way or the other

[grand flint]

wait how do u place a lower water block

is that a block property

[thorn isle]

I do kind of want to recreate terraria style water logic at some point

[grand flint]

or are they seperate blocks

[thorn isle]

Yes, it's a block property ranging from 1 to 8 iirc

Bubble columns are separate blocks, for whatever reason

[grand flint]

lmao what

gnore me

[thorn isle]

It can exist without magma or soul sand yes

[grand flint]

no i asked

if it could exist without that

seaweed in it

but then i forgot

u only place the seaweed

to turn it into a source block 😭

[thorn isle]

I'm not really aware of any association between weed and bubbles

[grand flint]

yeah ik there isnt any

yk when u place the water at the top

and let it go down

but then u place seaweed

all the way to the top to convert all the water into source blocks

[thorn isle]

Haven't heard of it but yeah that probably works

[grand flint]

how do u make ur water elevator

place the water one by one?

[thorn isle]

Waterlogged blocks can't tell apart source and non source blocks

I don't remember

Probably

[grand flint]

u put water at the top

it flows down

then u climb up with seaweed

which turns it into a source block

after u break the seaweed

[thorn isle]

I think I last played the game before waterlogging was a thing

But that makes sense yeah, sounds much easier

[grand flint]

seaweed is always underwater though

wait can u place seaweed without water

[thorn isle]

Seaweed was added in the same update as waterlogging

I don't think it has a not waterlogged state, no

[sharp dagger]

I tried to do this, but it seem to not work. Barrier is set, but I want for player to instantly send packet that there is air. For some reason it does not work:

        BlockState blockState = block.getState();
        blockState.setType(Material.BARRIER);
        blockState.update(true, true);

        loc.getWorld().getNearbyEntities(loc, 20, 20, 20, entity -> entity instanceof Player)
                .forEach(player -> ((Player) player).sendBlockChange(loc, Material.AIR.createBlockData()));

[sly topaz]

you can just do Block#setType

as for the block change, I got no idea, maybe it is because it happens at the same tick?

try wrapping it into BukkitScheduler::runTask

also, you could just use Entity::getTrackedBy instead of nearby entities

[sharp dagger]

Entity::getTrackedBy will not work, because I don't have an entity 😄

Also is there no way to set block server side without sending to player?

[sly topaz]

I had assumed you were doing this in front of some player but yeah

[sly topaz]

there is not, no. Unless you're willing to use PacketEvents

[sharp dagger]

Will try that

[sly topaz]

packetevents documentation for reference: https://docs.packetevents.com/

[sly flint]

they said dont support that version

yes

i have

[sly flint]

if you want plugin github
https://github.com/qhtaniwaft5r

[left jay]

hey so can someone help me figure out why this runnable task in this class that sends a message when a player is blocking only triggers when a player is looking at a block?
https://pastes.dev/3kUcQalFSI

[mortal vortex]

isnt that what isBlocking does?

isBlocking implies there is something in front.

otherwise, could you not use interact event

[left jay]

I assume not in a BukkitRunnable, right?

or ig i should say not in the scope of the class

[young knoll]

You don’t have to look at a block to block

[mortal hare]

#show heading.where(level: 3): it => {
  if it.numbering == none {
    return it
  } else {
    let (body, numbering, level, ..args) = it.fields()
    let content = heading(
        ..args,
        numbering: none,
        level: 2,
        outlined: true,
        text(counter(heading).display() + " " + body, size: 1.333em)
    )

    block(spacing: 1.5em, content)
  }
}

man this is such a smart hack

it converts markdown typst headings:
###

into:
##, but leave styling from ### heading, meaning that table of contents will behave as heading is TOC level 2 when actually TOC level 3 heading was typed. neat

basically operator overloading but in markdown 😄

[left jay]

which is why im so confused

[somber tusk]

Hi, I have used Spigot Buildtools to download spigot file and added it to my Eclipse external libraries in Java Project. I can not import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;
What should I do now (Im on version 1.21.8 - JDK 21)

[sullen marlin]

Did you add spigot-api

[eternal oxide]

Which jar did you add to your external libraries?
Are you using Maven/Gradle?

[somber tusk]

Im not using Maven or Gradle

[somber tusk]

I do not know where to download it

i think im missing the shaded spigot api

[eternal oxide]

If you are using external libraries in Eclipse you do not need the API

[somber tusk]

I added the Jar from buildtools

[eternal oxide]

You built Spigot with Buildtools so you should have the full fat jar

but you only really need the API

Is there a reason to not use Maven? It would make life so much easier

[somber tusk]

Idk how to use it…

[eternal oxide]

?maven Create a new Maven project in Eclipse, then follow the instructions.

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-maven/

[eternal oxide]

Spigot itself is a bootstrap jar so should not be used as a dependency

?bootstrap

[undone axle]

Bootstrap Jar
The main spigot-1.18.jar is now a bootstrap jar which contains all libraries. You cannot directly depend on this jar. You should depend on Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api-1.18-R0.1-SNAPSHOT-shaded.jar, or the entire contents of the bundler directory from your server, or use a dependency manager such as Maven or Gradle to handle this automatically.

Please read the release notes for further information: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/9-years-of-spigotmc-spigot-bungeecord-1-18-1-18-1-release.534760/#post-4305163

[somber tusk]

May I ask. Where can I download spigot api

[eternal oxide]

You ran Buildtools so you already have it

Spigot/Spigot-API/target/spigot-api...

in the folder you ran buildtools

[somber tusk]

Oh okay, thank you so much

[fading cairn]

Hello, I want to create my first Java plugin using the Maven extension in Visual Studio Code. I haven't used Maven before, and the documentation seems insufficient. Where should I start?

[mortal hare]

honestly no one i think apart form maven packaging devs knows how it works from end to end 😄

you mostly go to maven central repository on the internet, search the package you want to and copy the xml configuration declarations inside your own pom.xml

unless you're working on some kind of CI/CD pipeline or custom packaging there's usually no need to configure it thoroughly

everything mostly works automagically

you just tweak some xml tags sometimes and thats it

[drowsy helm]

This is a pretty good place to ask AI to summarise how it works. The main thing you have to worry about is dependencies and repositories, the rest you sorta learn as you go

[fading cairn]

@mortal hare @drowsy helm
So, should I use Visual Studio Code or IntelliJ IDEA? Code completion is great in VSCode.

[drowsy helm]

IntelliJ

It’s much better suited for java

But you can get away with vscode

At the end of the day it’s just a preference thing, IJ just has a lot more java specific tools

[hybrid spoke]

code completion is also great in IJ

[wet breach]

there is also netbeans

md_5 and myself use netbeans 🙂

[pseudo hazel]

or eclipse

💀

[hybrid spoke]

my personal favorite is the text editor

[pseudo hazel]

notepad all the way

or google docs, just like how they do at google

[mortal vortex]

damn neovim is enuff

[mortal hare]

configuring it to make it work is cancer

[mortal vortex]

works for me dawg

[mortal hare]

im not questioning if it works

im questioning the brittleness of the configurations across version upgrades

i use vscode just because extensions and lsps are primarily designed for it

[mortal vortex]

Tbh I only installed one lsp and thats it

[mortal hare]

meanwhile LSP in neovim are just ports of vscode ones which might be not fully compatible

[mortal vortex]

Yuhp

[slender elbow]

wonder if it'd be possible to back that with jetbrains' intellij engine somehow

i mean possible yes, but the wiring is probably bleh

[mortal vortex]

literally skin intellij until its just bones

remove GUI

slap nvim on top

[slender elbow]

yeah I mean that's how they made Fleet, the engine is its own module, but the wiring is the fun part because it doesnt use standard lsp protocol

[fresh coral]

looking for a dev that knows what theyre doing and has time

[slender elbow]

protocol protocol

[mortal vortex]

I liked the part where this channel was called “hiring-developers”

But thanks.

[fresh coral]

no other channel with developers activly chatting

[mortal vortex]

Ok and?

What makes you think this is a place to recruit people?

[mellow edge]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[rough drift]

....light... mode..??

[fading cairn]

The Netbeams and Eclipse interface reminds me of the design from 2008. 😅

As a student, I have a Copilot Pro subscription. It predicts and displays the code I want to write in Visual Studio Code. Does it do this in IntelliJ IDEA?

[chrome beacon]

That does exist in IJ as well

I don't really recommend using that though

[fading cairn]

I have no knowledge of Java. I want to improve my Java skills by developing plugins myself. I will use my familiarity with other languages.

[thorn isle]

if you're on paper, you can get Chunk::getPlayersSeeingChunk; entity tracking distance and chunk sending distance are different

[chrome beacon]

Then I don't recommend using it even more

[fading cairn]

😅

[thorn isle]

there is a copilot extension for intellij iirc

[fading cairn]

After learning about class structures in C#, I will try to write my own plugin. After all, they work on the same logic in all languages.

[thorn isle]

that said yeah i'm not sure if learning with copilot is the best idea

[fading cairn]

I downloaded it, but I couldn't log into my Copilot account.

[thorn isle]

programming is like 10% knowing the language and 80% being able to research the libraries/frameworks you have to work with

copilot entirely does away with the latter

[fading cairn]

I last wrote my helloworld command in 2016 using Eclipse. 🤣

I was a little kid back then, I didn't understand.

[worldly ingot]

It's better to learn the language without any tool assistance. Shouldn't really be using AI unless you can write all the code it's capable of generating to make your life faster

I only started using AI in the last like 9 months or so after 10 years of writing the code on my own

[fading cairn]

The area where I use Artificial Intelligence is very limited. I only use it when I get stuck on errors.

After learning about class structures, I will try writing plugins with IntelliJ IDEA.

[thorn isle]

be sure to ask it to actually explain out the errors in depth rather than just tell it to "fix the errors"

[fading cairn]

Basically, a Hello World, then I'll test the authorization system. I'll open the menus and such.

I'm asking about the problem. I activated Copilot Pro a few days ago. I haven't opened my membership. 😅

[thorn isle]

asking an actual person is probably still the best option but an ide-integrated ai is definitely easier to communicate with, since it'll see your project and the errors without you having to pastebin everything

[fading cairn]

My main field is 3D and CGI. But I still have a lingering interest in writing plugins for Minecraft.

[quaint mantle]

w flash

[smoky thunder]

Hello, I added support for nexo to the plugin, and since then I've been getting this message. Can you advise me on how to fix it?

[thorn isle]

https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/net.byteflux/libby-bukkit/1.3.1

Note: this artifact is located at AlessioDP repository (https://repo.alessiodp.com/releases/)

add this to your repositories

[worthy yarrow]

Also that’s not nexo

[thorn isle]

i searched for "byteflux libby bukkit maven coordinates" on google, in case you want to try and solve future similar errors on your own

[worthy yarrow]

I searched up “why does the unresolved dependency error occur when compiling my project in IntelliJ” kek

[worthy yarrow]

https://docs.nexomc.com/community-guides/api

[lime mauve]

Why is Java so hard without an ide

[grand flint]

Well all languages are mostly like that

lua and python has less keywords for example they would be easier

[quaint mantle]

Because imports

Nobody memorizes them

[dry hazel]

import module java.base;

🙏

[worldly ingot]

Just import all modules. Problem solved

[somber tusk]

can someone help me pls. I added the spigot api jar but I cannot import JavaPlugins

[sly topaz]

Eclipse in the big 2025

anyhow, are you using maven/gradle or just the IDE's classpath functionality?

[somber tusk]

Im not using maven or gradle

[sly topaz]

I would recommend using gradle, as you'll eventually find yourself using it anyway

[somber tusk]

okay I will try

[sly topaz]

as for your current issue, I am not familiar with Eclipse's build system features so I can't really help much in that regard, but if you do end up using gradle then we can go from there

[somber tusk]

ty ❤️

[old flicker]

I am having a really strange issue that I cannot pinpoint. On my 1.21.1 test server, this code works fine and has worked on production in the past.

            if (clickedItem.getType() == Material.TNT) {

                kitsSelected.add(p);
                p.closeInventory();
                kitsSelected.remove(p);

                ItemStack stone = new ItemStack(Material.STONE, 64);
                ItemStack tnt = new ItemStack(Material.TNT, 32);
                ItemStack wind = new ItemStack(Material.WIND_CHARGE, 3);
                ItemStack slab = new ItemStack(Material.SPRUCE_SLAB, 4);
                ItemStack redstone = new ItemStack(Material.REDSTONE, 16);
                ItemStack lever = new ItemStack(Material.LEVER, 4);
                ItemStack bread = new ItemStack(Material.BREAD, 16);

                p.getInventory().addItem(bread);

                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.TRIDENT));
                p.getInventory().addItem(wind);
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.WATER));
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.IRON_PICKAXE));
                p.getInventory().addItem(stone);
                p.getInventory().addItem(tnt);
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.FLINT_AND_STEEL));
                p.getInventory().addItem(slab);
                p.getInventory().addItem(redstone);
                p.getInventory().addItem(lever);

                p.getInventory().setHelmet(new ItemStack(Material.IRON_HELMET));
                p.getInventory().setChestplate(new ItemStack(Material.LEATHER_CHESTPLATE));


            }

But, though I am getting fully working results on my test server: only 3 of the items in the code are actually given on the production server, also running 1.21.1 (with viva version for 1.21.8 clients). And its only this kit in particular, the others work as intended.. the others are identical code and work flawlessly.

im not sure if its the way my production server is setup that is affecting this or if there is something I am missing

I know on production it gives trident, pick axe, and wind charges as the three items.. not sure about the armor

OTHER KITS have a lot of these items that are not being given here...

im actually so lost and shocked that this is happening

[chrome beacon]

yeah that's not something we're going to able to diagnose from that

but what I can note is that you should avoid calling close inventory in the click listener

[thorn isle]

at face value this should work but you probably knew that already

[old flicker]

Yes it absolutely should. I am not sure how to go about diagnosing and fixing this issue.. maybe try naming the kit differently or changing the order of the items? but it doesnt make sense why it works on my test server and not production

[thorn isle]

print the inventory contents to sysout in between each add, and then maybe a tick later

ideally plug the thing into a debugger and see who's messing with the inventory but that might not be good on a production server

[chrome beacon]

Making a copy of prod and debugging there is an option

[thorn isle]

yeah that's the big guns

[chrome beacon]

Could start by making sure that it's not just client server desync

[old flicker]

I think that's the best way to go about it yeah. In theory I shouldn't have to add a slight delay with all the other kits working as intended but maybe its a weird quirk with spigot in this specific kit. 🤷

eg. heres a working kit for anyone who might have a better idea with the why .. that stuffs always interesting to me:

            if (clickedItem.getType() == Material.IRON_CHESTPLATE) {

                kitsSelected.add(p);
                p.closeInventory();
                kitsSelected.remove(p);

                ItemStack bread = new ItemStack(Material.BREAD, 16);

                ItemStack stone = new ItemStack(Material.STONE, 64);

                p.getInventory().setItemInOffHand(new ItemStack(Material.SHIELD));
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.WOODEN_AXE));
                p.getInventory().addItem(stone);
                p.getInventory().addItem(bread);
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.WATER_BUCKET));
                p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.IRON_PICKAXE));
                p.getInventory().setHelmet(new ItemStack(Material.IRON_HELMET));
                p.getInventory().setChestplate(new ItemStack(Material.IRON_CHESTPLATE));
                p.getInventory().setLeggings(new ItemStack(Material.LEATHER_LEGGINGS));
                p.getInventory().setBoots(new ItemStack(Material.LEATHER_BOOTS));
            }

Anyways thanks for the help!

[thorn isle]

btw you can just do p.getInventory().addItem(new ItemStack(Material.STONE, 64)), there's no need for the random intermediate variables

[worldly ingot]

Even better, #addItem() takes varargs

player.getInventory().addItem(
    new ItemStack(Material.WOODEN_AXE),
    new ItemStack(Material.BREAD, 16),
    new ItemStack(Material.STONE, 64),
    new ItemStack(Material.WATER_BUCKET),
    new ItemStack(Material.IRON_PICKAXE)
);

[short pilot]

does anyone have code snippet or examples of how to shoot a ton of fireworks (randomized, like a celebration)

[worldly ingot]

Could break down the problem into parts which should make this problem easier:

1. You need a min/max point to generate a random x/y/z for your firework's position
2. You need a list of colours you want to randomly select from (one for the fade, one for the firework)
   a. Optionally, you can select multiple colours. Up to you
3. You need a list of patterns you want to randomly select from
   Put those all together into a FireworkEffect.Builder and you're good to go

[fallen elbow]

is there any dutch developer here who i can contact?

[quaint mantle]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[umbral ridge]

No

[misty ingot]

is there a way to send fake packets for a bunch of blocks to the player at once or something?
i have a full region which i want to swap out for fake blocks for a player and i think looping through each x,y,z might not be the best way

[thorn isle]

there's sendBlockChanges on paper at least, i think it also exists on spigot

on either world or player, i don't remember

probably player since they're spoofed only for a specific player

[chrome beacon]

Player#sendBlockChanges does exist in Spigot

[misty ingot]

it requires a Collection<BlockState>
so to get all the blockstates do i still just go through every x,y,z? (but then the packet is sent only once, at the end)

[worldly ingot]

Yes

[misty ingot]

well damn

[worldly ingot]

It may still send multiple packets - in fact it probably will - but it will send less

But computers are good at iterating over numbers. You should be fine

[misty ingot]

i tried doing this async and that didnt exactly go very well either

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, async world reads aren't perfect. That's the reason we have chunk snapshots

[misty ingot]

well yeah computers are pretty good at numbers but what about a large number of players?

thats my primary concern with it being sync

actually, thinking about it, i dont think a few hundred players will do that much

[quaint mantle]

sending the packet should be async

[quaint mantle]

You might do it just once then save it to a variable

[misty ingot]

i am running it sync but even then its giving me this error

[18:29:14 WARN]: [HypingKOTH] Global task for HypingKOTH v1.0-BETA generated an exception
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot read field "captureTreeGeneration" because the return value of "net.minecraft.world.level.Level.getCurrentWorldData()" is null

Collection<BlockState> blocks = new ArrayList<>();
for (int x = region.getMinimumPoint().getBlockX(); x <= region.getMaximumPoint().getBlockX(); x++) {
  for (int y = region.getMinimumPoint().getBlockY(); y <= region.getMaximumPoint().getBlockY(); y++) {
    for (int z = region.getMinimumPoint().getBlockZ(); z <= region.getMaximumPoint().getBlockZ(); z++) {
      if (region.contains(BlockVector2.at(x, z))) {
        Location loc = new Location(hill.getWorld(), x, y, z);
        if (loc.getBlock().getType() != Material.AIR) {
          blocks.add(loc.getBlock().getState());
          loc.getBlock().setType(material, false);
        }

i ran it async then realised i cant (it was giving me the same error) so i made it sync and im still getting it

[quaint mantle]

Is world where region is from loaded?

[misty ingot]

a player is standing inside the region

and the region is quite small

[fickle spindle]

It's better if i divide the code in functions for example for the

p.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', m));

i make a function to something like that:

        p.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', m));
    }```
or that i leave the code as the first one?

I'm not saying that only for messages and stuff for like getting stuff in the config so that the code can look cleaner and that it's "easier" to reach faster something that i usually need / use

[plush vortex]

you should use HEX instead of normal &

[thorn isle]

if you just want to send the default block state, you can create that from the material without having to do world reads

[misty ingot]

i need to check the block i am replacing before replacing it
so i need to do world reads

the problem is solved now, i was using the wrong scheduler

[short pilot]

what's an efficient way to place schematics into a set place?

I assume it'd have to be nbt format but idk

[thorn isle]

depend on fastasyncworldedit and use it to paste the schematic

no point in reinventing and maintaining an incredibly hacky nms wheel

or i suppose more ideally, depend on worldedit rather than fawe, so server admins have the option to choose between the slow but reliable worldedit or fast but hacky fawe

[young knoll]

I mean it’s not actually that hacky when using NMS

The game has a built in method to load an NBT file, then you just need to parse the data

[thorn isle]

well yes but async this and that is always hacky

[young knoll]

?

[wet breach]

depends how efficient and what you are willing to sacrifice

also if you are running the server or not

[short pilot]

just a small build

i assume there's a way to do it within the api itself with nbt files (?)

maybe worldedit has api that supports it i dunno

[wet breach]

you will need to parse the NBT data yourself from the schematic and then set the block data using the API

https://github.com/frostalf/JNBT

[young knoll]

The api can use the vanilla structure format to do it, yes

But not the schematic format

[wet breach]

its not that hard to parse schematics

nor is it even slow

[short pilot]

would schematic format be better

[wet breach]

depends on you and your needs

personally I don't mind schematics

[young knoll]

They’re smaller

That’s basically the only difference

[wet breach]

wouldn't say the only difference

[young knoll]

Well, easier to make too I suppose

Structure blocks can only export 48x48x48

[wet breach]

schematics can't save some things if I recall unless you make a custom version, but structures can essentially save all data

[young knoll]

Though I believe fawe can export to the vanilla format for any size

[short pilot]

i just have a small structure i'd like to paste using a command im coding

but have like 0 knowledge on how to or which libraries can help

[wet breach]

well then I probably wouldn't worry about efficieny

and just worry about coding the ability to do the thing you want 😛

[short pilot]

(trying to make a minigame; although maybe just having a structure block in the world and pasting to reset the stage would be way easier)

[wet breach]

efficiency doesn't matter if you can't even get something working you know >>

[wet breach]

I can save you some trouble here

[young knoll]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/structure/StructureManager.html#loadStructure(java.io.File)

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/structure/Structure.html#place(org.bukkit.Location,boolean,org.bukkit.block.structure.StructureRotation,org.bukkit.block.structure.Mirror,int,float,java.util.Random)

[wet breach]

delete the world the minigame is in, reload said world

the lobby of the minigame is the default overworld

minigames or game is a separate world that you can unload, remove and then paste the master world and then load up

and now everything is reset and you didn't have to mess with any pasting

[short pilot]

hmm

oop intent isnt to reset between games

it's to reset stage between rounds

within a singular game

[wet breach]

same concept

you just use a different room in the lobby world

so they appear as if they are somewhere else

or you could just use a different world for that too

used to run something like 100 minigames at a time per server

[short pilot]

hmm i see

im trying to minimize the amount of change that happens from the players' side so it appears smooth

[wet breach]

also breaking it up like that also allows you to run the minigames and the lobbies on different servers too

[short pilot]

hmm

[wet breach]

IE scaling becomes easier

players don't really care if they get teleported

as long as the teleporting isn't taking like 5 minutes lol

and given the recent updates its easier to transfer players between servers as well

or well its more native

[short pilot]

am pondering

[wet breach]

also minigame worlds are extremely small, probably no more then a few megabytes lol

which is also nice because you can stuff these worlds into a database

[short pilot]

ah

[wet breach]

well to get them small you have to prune the excess world to what you need

but the nice thing of having them in a database is that it didn't matter where the servers were located they always had access to the worlds and the data needed for them 🙂

so no worrying about accidentally deleting files from some MC directory 😛

We know a thing or two because we have done a thing or two here, anyways there is a lot of options at your disposal

[short pilot]

yus

is there any victory code i could peek at for minigame ending celebrations

fireworks/particles/sounds when someone wins the game

[wet breach]

someone here might have something

I don't have any of that stuff, or at least publicly available

[short pilot]

right now i just randomize all the effects which leads to varried results; idk if i should just hard code how the fireworks spawn

[wet breach]

just make everyone dance

shouldn't be that hard with display entities and armorstands etc lol

[round finch]

Hi people

I'm trying to help someone with world generation but I don't know entirely know how Minecraft vanilla handles chunks with trees and structures

[thorn isle]

do you have a question

[fading cairn]

@chrome beacon@thorn isle@wet breach@hybrid spoke

Firts Plugin 🥳

[fading cairn]

😁

[thorn isle]

use intellij

vscode is garbage

[fading cairn]

I'm currently using IntelliJ. I'm used to it.

[thorn isle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-plugin-with-maven-using-intellij-idea/

[fading cairn]

I wrote the plugin in the picture.

It is currently working

[thorn isle]

looks pretty much alright, only nitpick i have is that coreCommands should be CoreCommands; java classes are always UpperCamelCase with a capital first letter

[hybrid spoke]

cool! but why did i got pinged 🤔

[fading cairn]

You helped me that day. I wanted to show you that your help was not in vain. 😊

[fading cairn]

Ahh okey

[hybrid spoke]

ohh, i didnt remember! nice, keep it going!

[fading cairn]

😊

[wet breach]

first

nice

on my phone thought it said flirts

and was like, oh, who is this spamming a flirt plugin

[fading cairn]

[wet breach]

well there was a spammer earlier today so I was thinking there was another person spamming but just pinging people XD

[thorn isle]

i'm glad the marriage plugin fad is all but dead

[round finch]

How do take into count chunk borders with tree generation?

[grand flint]

there is a nice tutorial its for roblox studio

but same chunk generation

if i find it ill send it to u

[round finch]

Putting everything in same class is bad practice

You should up plugin class instance

I see you command class mb

[sullen marlin]

You use a populator instead

[young knoll]

Is that like

Minecraft beta 1.0

[round finch]

we're writing our own b1.7.3 server

some of it is taken by bukkit / fork

[young knoll]

The way the modern game handles it is by doing population for a chunk once all 8 neighbour chunks have been generated

[thorn isle]

chunks at the decoration stage can write to adjacent chunks at a lower generation stage

[young knoll]

Not back then :p

[thorn isle]

e.g. if a tree generates at the edge of the chunk, it will write those leaves and suchlike in the adjacent chunk the tree crosses over into

once the blockpopulator stage for the adjacent chunk runs, it will see those blocks and not spawn a tree or any other decoration that would conflict with them

strictly speaking this makes chunk generation non-deterministic and dependent on chunk generation order, but what can you do

[oblique furnace]

I am currently working on a plugin, that has custom helmets. How can I make the helmet have a armor trim?

[grand flint]

You need to create each of the model and texture for the armor trims then uhh

Do that first I'll respond with the rest later 🙏

[oblique furnace]

So you need to create an extra texture pack for that???

[plush vortex]

For custom items yeah

Unless you use default minecraft stuff you need a texture pack

iirc

[grand flint]

Yeah obv?

How else would you make your custom helmets

If you are asking how to apply an armor trim to a vanilla helmet it would be

i think its with ArmorMeta

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/ArmorMeta.html

yeah there look set trim

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/ArmorMeta.html#setTrim(org.bukkit.inventory.meta.trim.ArmorTrim)

[oblique furnace]

Ok, change of plan😅 . Can I connect a texture I made (its a crown btw) with a specific (netherite) Helmet you can't obtain in survival(/without the plugin)?

And if yes, how can I do it?

[grand flint]

ofc u cant ❤️

[oblique furnace]

If I have a cool idea it obviously doesnt work -_-

[quaint mantle]

You could spawn item display crown when player is wearing the "special" helmet

[grand flint]

are u silly 😭

(without the plugin)

he wants it in vanilla survival

[quaint mantle]

Command blocks/Data packs 🗿

[grand flint]

eugh

he said in survival btw

thats creative

[quaint mantle]

Yeah then no way

[oblique furnace]

No, I want to do it with a plugin😅

The Item shouldn't be able to be obtained in vanilla without commands

So players dont get an item with a crown texture without it being a crown

[grand flint]

yeah so just use the custom model data or item model of the item

then give an item with that item model with a command

players cant het it

[zealous scroll]

afaik, with 1.21.5, itemstacks in packets are now hashed to cut down on duping and desync. I can't remap items from incoming client packets because I can't read the item data, haven't figured out how to fix this in a week, any ideas?

[plush vortex]

what are you making? mod, plugin etc

[zealous scroll]

a test snippet i made:
https://gist.github.com/braulio-dev/6595c19ecdbbe9d812471558b40c5dda

basically im making a packet-based item system, which just serializes a custom item type's ID and the item's individual data into its PDC and then re/maps it on packet events so lore, item name, attributes, etc can all be updated in real time. this also allows for a pretty neat versioning system and reduces the need for backpropagation for items that are 'outdated'

[grand flint]

or just update the item when the user interacts w it 🙏

[zealous scroll]

this implementation worked in 1.21.4, but in 1.21.5 items are hashed and i can no longer map them back to their 'original' state that the server holds.

server -> maps item ✅ -> client receives -> client sends packets -> remaps items ❌ (this doesn't work anymore, because the item sent by the client is hashed) -> server receives

[grand flint]

mythic has an item updater as well
https://git.lumine.io/mythiccraft/mythiccrucible/-/wikis/Item-Updater

[plush vortex]

cache the item and then use the cache when processing the clicks

i guess

https://tenor.com/view/head-scratcher-confused-perplexed-huh-clash-with-cam-gif-10198268

[zealous scroll]

that's my initial thought but there is no identifiable property an item possesses once its sent back to the server in its hashed form

just amount, type, and components added/removed (not useful)

[plush vortex]

yeah idk

wtf lol

cache the slot contents BEFORE you send them
then use the slot index from the packet to look up the item that you cached

since mojang made it like area 51 i think the only work around is you keeping the data alive and then use it

other than that idk

[echo basalt]

do any of you nerds have experience with nms containers

for some reason dragging looks weird and it tries to pick up items for a tick

[remote swallow]

that menutype guy thats no longer here might

[echo basalt]

removing a sendAllDataToRemote fixed the weird behavior

I wonder how much this is gonna suck

[outer ember]

How can i do a thing to all players in 10 blocks arround a pos?

[eternal oxide]

a thing

[outer ember]

idk like killing them

and how to add a api LIKE WORLDEDIT to my project

[dawn summit]

Could someone help me? On my server, I have a ping of 90, but when I enter survival mode, it goes up to 9000. This only happens in survival mode. There's no problem in the lobby.

[fickle spindle]

i've multiple message that i want to send on different line it's better to do x p.sendMessage or there is a better way of doing it?

[eternal oxide]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/command/CommandSender.html#sendMessage(java.lang.String...)

[real crater]

Can someone help me create a plugin that links different attributes

[sly topaz]

what does that mean

[plush vortex]

i'm assuming earth, fire, water, air - maybe? 😂

[sly topaz]

Bro wants to become the avatar

[plush vortex]

you know how to code, right?

[oblique beacon]

My account has been compromised and my email address has been changed, so I can't handle this myself.
Where should I contact the administrators?

[mortal vortex]

?support

[undone axle]

[e-mail]

[mortal vortex]

@oblique beacon

email

[oblique beacon]

Thank you

[oblique furnace]

I have a plugin, that has crowns(netherite Helmet with Protection 5) but somehow it didn't show any armour points. I believe it gives armour tho.

[smoky anchor]

Do you mean it doesn't show the blue text on bottom
But still gives you armor points when you equipt it ?

[mortal vortex]

or do you mean it doesn’t show the chest plate icons?

[thorn isle]

applying any custom attributes to an item removes its default attributes

if you're on paper, you can check with /paper dumpitem

[mortal vortex]

didn’t you tell me a minute ago you found a dev?

[cerulean cave]

yeah

sorry

i forget

he was offline so i thoguth he left

[wet breach]

seems their memory is low and thus they can only remember limited things

[young knoll]

Offline = gone

It’s like when you hide the lollipop behind your back from a toddler and they think it’s gone

[mortal vortex]

or when the pentagon tried to claim 2.3 trillion dollars disappeared by staging a catastrophic event to make people think it was gone.

[wet breach]

this is completely false on both accounts

[mortal vortex]

it’s not.

2.3 trillion dollars really went missing.

[wet breach]

you are misrepresenting a speech that happened a day before 9/11. The 2.3 Trillion dollars didn't just disappear as in like it vanished. What was being referred to was that the accounting of 2.3 trillion was lost through undocumented transactions, outdated systems and the sorts

but I don't expect non-citizens of the US to actually know this and just misrepresent or misquote stuff all the time

[mortal vortex]

okay thanks Reuters.

[young knoll]

No no

We aren’t doing a 9/11 argument here

[mortal vortex]

I’m not.

[wet breach]

its not a 9/11 argument and am not going to comment on that

I am referring to the 2.3 trillion dollar thing

[mortal vortex]

Your wording reads exactly like the Reuters page

“Misrepresentation”

[wet breach]

because you are misrepresenting the facts and trying to say something happened that didn't

[mortal vortex]

I’m completely aware that it really happened like a year prior. And it wasn’t money that went missing suddenly, it was a statement of like decades of untraceable funds.

I’m just fucking around

Plus there is already way more viable counter arguments for 9/11 other than just the 2.3 trillion thing.

[eternal oxide]

Patriot act

[wet breach]

what about it?

[mortal vortex]

someone speaking facts

[mortal vortex]

Probably a ruse to enact it.

Like yk how whenever congress wants to ban a firearm modification, like idk a supressor, there’s suddenly some kind of shooting involving that EXACT modification so they can skew voters into agreement.

[wet breach]

congress never banned supressors

[mortal vortex]

that was an example.

I don’t know if it’s congress or what but you see these legislators get together, talk about how they wanna ban sometging and then suddenly there’s a real case, and it gets banned.

[wet breach]

you mean state representatives and you are referring to states banning something. Completely different then congress. States have their own legislative systems in which they can pass laws on stuff for their state.

[mortal vortex]

Like the luigi mangione ghost gun. How the body or, some portion of it was 3D printed. Right after there was a bill put forth to ban ghost guns.

[wet breach]

So California for example, can ban something, but it doesn't mean its banned in the other 49 states

[mortal vortex]

Yeahhh

[wet breach]

ghost guns were already banned

[mortal vortex]

Federally?

[wet breach]

yes

[mortal vortex]

oh we in the wrong channel 😭

[wet breach]

You can not assemble or produce a weapon without a gunsmith license and weapons must all have a serial number on them and reported

that has always been the federal law since a very very long time, well before 3d printing was ever a thing lmao

[mortal vortex]

Oh right

Wait then why would Oregon need a law for it just last year if there is already federal legislation on serial numbers?

https://youtu.be/BJsO9Y4fjkU

[wet breach]

If there was anything that was done, was that the law that existed was broadened to specifically ecompass 3d printed weapons to ensure someone couldn't use 3d printing as some kind of loop hole which it never was but just in case

[wet breach]

because in order to charge and convict under federal law, you have to prosecute in federal court

which requires a federal prosecutor who is not the same person as the state prosecutor

IE, federal prosecutor could technically choose to not try the case even though the state wants that to happen

therefore, state law that mirrors federal one so that you can be charged under state law

[mortal vortex]

oh

Erm can we switch back to 9/11. that’s something I can actually regurgitate 4chan conspiracies on much easier.

[wet breach]

It just so happens not a whole lot of states actually had a lot of state laws on this matter

[thorn isle]

HELLO KIDS TODAY WE WILL BE PRINTING A FEDERAL CRIME

[mortal vortex]

YAYYYYY

[main juniper]

Anyone know how to properly fetch a users total payment (spent amount) amount from the tebex api, been trying for a few hours and keep getting met with 403 error.

I've read their docs, and so far I have still had no luck

[wet breach]

wouldn't you have this info already?

otherwise its good that you are getting forbidden message

[main juniper]

???

[wet breach]

if a user buys something from you, you should have the payment amount sent to you right?

[main juniper]

no duh, however I am working on a plugin showing tebex logs, and history for server admins

[wet breach]

so keep track of that yourself

not sure what is hard here

[main juniper]

I mean I could but wouldnt it be easier to not store all that data, and have the tebex api that can do it, do it itself?

[wet breach]

obviously it won't let you

[main juniper]

Stored data like that can be manipulated

I dont want that as an option

[wet breach]

manipulated by who?

[main juniper]

Are you slow?

[wet breach]

then I guess you just suck at security or you are worrying about something above your station

[grand flint]

by the goblins silly

[main juniper]

And you suck at answering questions, your reply has nothing to do with what I asked but ok

[grand flint]

You already store the data

When a purchase is made

[wet breach]

they are currently not, the Tebex site does, but its not allowing them access to said things which only leaves storing the info themselves

They don't want to store said data because someone with magic access will manipulate it

[grand flint]

its fine maybe he is just better than us

[wet breach]

Anyways the proper way to do this, is you have a service that pulls the data or stores it whenever it recieves it and puts in the DB

no one should have ssh access or the sorts, but even if they do you can make it so they can't alter with that

you make another user for the DB that can only read but never modify

this is the user you use if you want to read the data and thus ensuring it can't be manipulated

again as I said either you suck at security or you are worrying about something above your station

[sly topaz]

what did you try

[wet breach]

something forbidden obviously

[sly topaz]

they have an endpoint to retrieve payment, so there shouldn't be any issues on that regard. If you're getting a 403 then that probably means your game server secret key is wrong

[wet breach]

they want to get the history of payments

as in to figure out overall what a user paid

so like, the ability to grab all payments a user has ever made and then get a total for that

[sly topaz]

they have an endpoint for that too: https://docs.tebex.io/plugin/endpoints/customer-purchases

well, for the active ones

doesn't seem like they have anything for expired ones

[wet breach]

yeah, so wouldn't help in grabbing the overall

which they would need to just keep track of that themselves

[slender elbow]

joy joy_cat rofl

[wet breach]

which isn't all that hard

[wet breach]

you forgot the colons

[sly topaz]

you could probably get it from their API by using the sales endpoint but that sounds annoying

[wet breach]

possibly, but wouldn't know. I don't use tebex. However I did present them a solution which they arbitrarily said was no good lol

I suppose what you said could be another

[thorn isle]

looks like they already ragequit the server