help-development

[pure dagger]

yeah, but actually the Exception should never be thrown, so is it like the best thing?

its just that the method shouldnt be executrd if its full, you should check

[sly topaz]

that sounds like the job for a checked exception, in which case I'd go towards a custom FullPageException like Emily suggested but a Result enum or whatever is also a valid choice

[slender elbow]

an exception being thrown in that case means the caller failed to ensure the fullness of the page, and you throwing it is a more extreme response communicating that

it's okay to throw exceptions, people don't like it because a) unchecked exceptions are overused for custom exceptions, so it's easy to miss if you don't rtfm, and b) it "makes the code ugly"

[pure dagger]

yeah but it should not be thrown

if i make code im trying to make code that will never trigger that exception

[slender elbow]

but it isn't your code that triggered the exception

it's the user's

this is a meaningful exception

[pure dagger]

so you mean, like someone uses my code?

ok

[sly topaz]

you were saying earlier if they don't check isFull then that'd trigger this hypothetical exception, this is somthing you can't control so you have to respond to the consumer of your method in some way

[slender elbow]

I just mean the user of the Page class

[pure dagger]

who is user

[slender elbow]

and "your code" here is the Page code

[pure dagger]

someone else coding

?

[slender elbow]

whoever uses the Page class

[sly topaz]

whoever uses this piece of code, be it you or someone else

[slender elbow]

you

[pure dagger]

im using it

[slender elbow]

then you are the user of the page class

[pure dagger]

okay

[worthy yarrow]

I mean internally you could just call isFull on any operations related to adding things to the page

[sly topaz]

yeah but then it'd fail silently when it is full, which isn't a good design

[pure dagger]

ill just throw the illegalstate thing

[worthy yarrow]

Which is why you'd throw an exception

Is that the point you guys are trying to make?

[sly topaz]

yes

[worthy yarrow]

ah

[pure dagger]

ok im throwing this thing

[sly topaz]

it all comes down to unchecked vs checked exceptions imo, you should give a read to some java guide about that

[pure dagger]

okayy

public class Page {

    private final List<Article> content;

    public Page(List<Article> content) {
        this.content = content;
    }

    public boolean isFull() {
        return content.size() >= 27;
    }
    
    public boolean hasIndex(int index) {
        return index>=0 && index<content.size();
    }
    
    public void addArticle(Article article) {
        if (isFull()) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("The page is full");
        }
        content.add(article);
    }

    public void removeArticle(int index) {
        content.remove(index);
    }

    public void setArticle(int index, Article article) {
        if (!hasIndex(index)) {
            throw new IndexOutOfBoundsException("Index of " + index + " is out of bound");
        }
        content.set(index, article);
    }

}
``` what do you think

[minor urchin]

no

[wraith delta]

In the game when i do / to type a command for my plugin it shows up as plugin:command, even if i use alias because the alias is the same as the plugin name. what identifies that the plugin name is that? which i could change and it not affect the jar

[wet breach]

in the plugin.yml

there is spot to put the name of the plugin. This is what is used and not what you physically name the jar

[wraith delta]

Thanks

[thorn isle]

i love physically naming and putting pottery jars on my server

[echo basalt]

@torn shuttle funny situation

Got a digi sms saying my address is now available for their service

2 mins later my meo internet died

Hasn't been back since

It's been 2 hours

[torn shuttle]

cursed ahead of time with bad internet

that's what you get

[echo basalt]

Fucking blackhole

[torn shuttle]

I haven't switched out of digi yet despite the 60h of outage I've had in 1 week

just because the other dudes all want 2 year contracts and I might move in january

[floral cloak]

@tepid coral check dms

[short pilot]

in context of happy ghast, how can you check if a player dismounting is the player that is "driving" the happy ghast? Does vehicle class have index slots for each possible seat or something?

[fresh timber]

can anyone help?

[alpine citrus]

hey guys, question, is it possible to play MC offline on a server, bypassing the auth server to develop offline?

[fresh timber]

change online mode to false in server.properties I think

[alpine citrus]

dude, i'm actually tweaking, i kept changing it in the config files

i just spent like 2 hours on 3rd party clients

booted right up

[thorn isle]

you could try ghast.getPassengers().indexOf(player) == 0 but i'm not sure if the dismounting player is already removed from the list by the time the event fires

[buoyant viper]

Nope

minecraft is pay to play sadly..

offline mode is a lie spread by the global elites to give us peasants false guidance

[alpine citrus]

real, my ISP actually charged me one of my lungs to port forward

🙁

[short pilot]

can anyone confirm this

[sullen marlin]

Try and see?

[placid rivet]

can you set a repair cost after 1.21? i want my items to always cost 6 levels and setRepairCost is deprecated

[chrome beacon]

Read the deprecation note

[placid rivet]

what do you mean by note

'setRepairCost(int)' is deprecated since version 1.21 and marked for removal
that's the error i get, where can i find the note?

[placid rivet]

oh, okay

ty

[chrome beacon]

and if you want the note in Intellij open the maven/gradle tab and click the download button

and download sources and documentation

[chrome beacon]

this is from the javadoc at

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[charred blaze]

do TaskTimers last through a server restart?

[hazy parrot]

No

[pure dagger]

why cant i put "\n\n"

[grand flint]

bc its not a vanilla thing

[pure dagger]

why can i do 1 ?

how to do that

[grand flint]

oh idk i just made it up tbh

[pure dagger]

i can put 1 \n but not 2

more than 1 will be just the same as 1

[slender elbow]

put where?

[pure dagger]

as a string

i do

i mean

player.sendMessage("something**\n\n**something");

will just do 1

[pseudo hazel]

wait that works?

[slender elbow]

is that a question? because it should work fine and be two newlines

you can put as many newlines in any string as you want, whether the thing trying to render that text supports it nicely is a different question

[pure dagger]

;-;

maybe i missed something

[pseudo hazel]

I just send multiple messages haha I didnt know the chat window supported this format

[pure dagger]

what d oyou mean

[brittle geyser]

maybe you need player.sendMessage("something\n§r\nsomething");

[pseudo hazel]

I meant I just do player.sendMessage("text"); player.sendMessage(""); etc

[pure dagger]

ok adding a reset

between

works

[pliant topaz]

weird

afaik the string blocks should work too, but i am not completely sure

tho that raises the question if it would, again, not account for thr second new line

[trim depot]

how to get channel using NMS with spigot mappings on 1.21.8?

[sullen marlin]

?xy

[undone axle]

https://xyproblem.info/

[trim depot]

Well i dont know how to make player injection anymore because i cant get channel normaly anymore

I tryed getting it using PlayerConnection but i just couldnt find it

[young knoll]

There are tools for this like packet events and protocollib

Otherwise I don’t remember how you access it now :)

The joys of NMS

[solar slate]

Dos anyone have ideas on what I can add to my permissions plugin? So far it includes all the base elements like groups, per-player permissions, group prefixes, negative permissions, and GUI's for group and player editing. Yes it does integrate with Vault as well. I'm mainly looking for the most commonly used features in permissions plugins, but any suggestions are appreciated!

[young knoll]

Web editor

[solar slate]

This is a good idea, but it definitely last on my list as it will most definitely be the MOST complicated compared to other additions

[left jay]

question, how would i go about detecting when a player puts down their shield? i already have this for a player putting their shield up

[young knoll]

What if it’s in their main hand

Or disabled because they got hit with an axe

[left jay]

well for my custom item system, that cant happen

for both cases

[young knoll]

I think the easiest way would just be a runnable that checks Player#isBlocking every tick

[frail pilot]

Did this for test purposes few month ago

    private void injectListener(Player player) {
        final CraftPlayer craftPlayer = (CraftPlayer) player;
        final ServerGamePacketListenerImpl packetListener = craftPlayer.getHandle().connection;
        logger.info("Retrieve the connection");
        final Connection connection;
        try {
            final Field connectionField = ServerCommonPacketListenerImpl.class.getDeclaredField("e"); //connection
            connectionField.setAccessible(true);
            connection = (Connection) connectionField.get(packetListener);
        } catch (ReflectiveOperationException e) {
            return;
        }
        logger.info("Extract the channel");
        final Channel channel;
        try {
            final Field channelField = Connection.class.getDeclaredField("n"); // channel
            channelField.setAccessible(true);
            channel = (Channel) channelField.get(connection);
        } catch (ReflectiveOperationException e) {
            return;
        }
        logger.info("Inject " + player.getName());
        channel.pipeline().addBefore("packet_handler", "custom_packet_reader", new CustomPacketReader(logger));
    }

    private static class CustomPacketReader extends ChannelDuplexHandler {
        // Implement it yourself
    }

[young knoll]

Ah right they made it private

[frail pilot]

Yeah

[left jay]

hey so im trying to force the player to stop putting up their shield when this method gets triggered, how can i do that?

public void guardBreak(Player player) {
        player.sendTitle("GUARD BREAK!", "", 10, 40, 20);

        ItemStack shield = player.getInventory().getItemInOffHand();
        if (ItemSystem.getItemTypeFromItemStack(shield) == ItemType.SHIELD) {
            player.getInventory().setItemInMainHand(new ItemStack(Material.AIR));

            Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(nmlShields, () -> {
                player.getInventory().setItemInOffHand(shield);
            }, 1L);
        }

        player.setCooldown(Material.SHIELD, 40);
        damageCooldowns.put(player.getUniqueId(), damageCooldowns.get(player.getUniqueId()) + 40);
    }```

[fresh timber]

I am using

player.getWorld().strikeLightning(player.getLocation());

(I have also tried World#strikeLightningEffect())

to, well, strike lightning. The only problem is absolutely nothing happens. No fire on the ground, no damage to the player when I use .strikeLightning, obviously no lightning visuals, no sound, etc. I have debugged to the moon and I'm absolutely sure that the code reaches this point.

~~The only possible culprit I can think of would be that I set players weather using things like

player.setPlayerWeather(WeatherType.DOWNFALL);
```~~
EDIT: Just tested after resetting players weather and this does not fix it.

Does anyone know how to fix this?

[wraith delta]

import org.bukkit.block.data.Attachable;hmm, why isnt it found in 1.21

[sly topaz]

1.21.0?

[sly topaz]

is this the only plugin you have on the server

[fresh timber]

no

[sly topaz]

try in a clean server just to be sure

if it works there then you at least know it is just one of the plugins messing with your logic

[wraith delta]

yea

[fresh timber]

my plugin depends on other plugins tho lol

like luckperms, placeholder api, multiverse

[sly topaz]

just make a simple test plugin which strikes lightning

[sly topaz]

1. Why 1.21 lol, you're 8 versions behind
2. https://helpch.at/docs/1.21/org/bukkit/block/data/Attachable.html It definitely existed then so your environment might just be messed up

make sure you don't have any transitive dependencies overriding your declared spigot version

[wraith delta]

support older server versions

hm, this import worked instead import org.bukkit.material.Attachable;

[sly topaz]

that is the wrong Attachable

just look at the dependency tree and see if any of your dependencies isn't accidentally pulling an older spigot version

[echo karma]

can someone help me , clearlag plugin always clear my minecart i want to disable it but idk how to

[sly topaz]

that is a question for #help-server. It'd also be helpful to know which clearlag plugin you're using exactly, there's tons of them

[echo karma]

oh ok

thanks btw

[lapis hinge]

Hello, I am a PHP Developer, I have developed numerous minecraft bedrock factions servers. I got bored and decided to learn how to make spigot plugins. For my java factions core, i want to know how to make custom enchants?

In bedrock, you can essentially just extend the Enchant class and make a new enchant? Anyone got any github repo or code that shows how I can make enchants, alot of the ones online are super complicated and hard to look at.

[sly topaz]

sadly on the spigot side it is quite a bit more complex than that since it involves modifying registries, which there's no API for. Here's a guide for it if you're up to it: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/1-21-4-register-custom-enchantments-with-nms.651347/

[wraith delta]

neat. i decided to use Directional instead

[lapis hinge]

wow, i didnt realize how more advanced bedrock softwares are then java. it is so much easier to do stuff there.

[fresh timber]

the easiest thing to do is just make your own using nbt and lore

[lapis hinge]

108 => new IronTouch("Iron Touch", Rarity::COMMON, ItemFlags::PICKAXE, 0x0, 5),

foreach($list as $id => $enchant) {
            EnchantmentIdMap::getInstance()->register($id, $enchant);
        }```
all u have to do on pocketmine

😭

[fresh timber]

also I did this and it worked so idk

[lapis hinge]

public function getSlotsFilled(Item $item) : int {
        $enchants = 0;
        foreach($item->getEnchantments() as $enchantment) {
            $enchantment = $enchantment->getType();
            if ($enchantment instanceof raveEnchant) {
                $enchants++;
            }
        }
        return $enchants;
    }```

only downside is that php is a trashy language so the optimization isnt as good as java.

[lapis hinge]

👍

thats what im going to do

[lapis hinge]

Well on pocketmine checking for every single enchant nbt would be kinda bad for performance? Is the penalties for doing this insignificant?

maybe i cache nbt -> enchant class
and then foreach all the enchant nbts and then enchant->trigger ??

[sly topaz]

you don't really deal with NBT on the bukkit side of things

while doing the lore thing is easier, it often ends up more complex if you want to support anvil as well as just showing it inside an enchanting table

if you still want to do it this way, then you'll want to use PDC to track the enchantment on items

[sly topaz]

then one of the plugins in your server is cancelling an event or something that is making it not work

[lapis hinge]

You dont use NBTs??

[sly topaz]

NBT is considered too flaky so it isn't exposed in the API, but you can pretty much set any value via API

the closest thing to dealing with NBT is PDC, which is an abstraction over it but only for custom values

[lapis hinge]

NBTs are such a big thing on the software i use

ye custom nbts

So essentially i check the items lore for enchants?

[sly topaz]

if that's the way you want to go about it, yes

[lapis hinge]

what is the performance penalties for doing this method?

[sly topaz]

there shouldn't be any performance penalties for something that simple

[lapis hinge]

is it igsinificant?

[lapis hinge]

bro on pocketmine that would be aids

50 players checking, 5 items each scanning for lore.

java is async on default tho right?

this feels so weird, i dont have to worry about making my code overly optimized

[sly topaz]

it is not asynchronous, no. But the way it works is quite different since you wouldn't have to constantly scan the lore or anything like that, you'd just add it to the lore when giving the item stack to the player and then check in the interact event whether they have the given enchant and apply your enchantment effect

[lapis hinge]

oh.

Also for color codes, does java use "&"?

Or do I have to use ChatColor

[lapis hinge]

Would I check if the item has the enchant before or after calling the enchant function?

[sly topaz]

you can make use of that if you parse it with ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', message), you can make an utility function like:

public static String color(String message) {
  return ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', message);
}
// Usage
somePlayer.sendMessage(color("&e&lThis is a bold yellow message"));

[lapis hinge]

like for example java private void handleLifesteal(Player attacker, Player victim, ItemStack weapon, double damage) { if (!CustomEnchantmentManager.hasEnchant(weapon, LifestealEnchant.class)) return;

[lapis hinge]

bet ty

[sly topaz]

you would call this method inside the damage event given it is a lifesteal enchantment

[lapis hinge]

im asking if i should check if the item has the enchant before or after calling the enchant event

like uh

[sly topaz]

I mean, the item should already have the enchantment in the lore if that is what you mean

[lapis hinge]

eh its fine whatever

thx for the help preciate it

[sly topaz]

I was making an example in a paste site but accidentally closed it and lost it all lmao

[lapis hinge]

wow its ok

[sly topaz]

that said, once that happened I realized I am dumb since we have AI now: https://chatgpt.com/share/689d5a8c-d8c0-8013-bb89-b8c55306ebb3

[lapis hinge]

i got somewhat of a base now

[sly topaz]

the last example it made is pretty much what I was writing

[lapis hinge]

    public static ItemStack addEnchant(ItemStack item, String enchantName, int level) {
        CustomEnchant enchant = ENCHANT_REGISTRY.get(enchantName.toLowerCase());
        if (enchant == null || item == null) return item;

        level = Math.max(1, Math.min(enchant.getMaxLevel(), level));

        item = removeEnchant(item, enchantName);

        ItemMeta meta = item.getItemMeta();
        List<String> lore = meta.hasLore() ? new ArrayList<>(meta.getLore()) : new ArrayList<>();

        String colorCode = LEVEL_COLORS[Math.min(level - 1, LEVEL_COLORS.length - 1)];
        String enchantLore = ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&',
                colorCode + enchant.getName() + " " + toRoman(level));
        lore.add(enchantLore);

        meta.setLore(lore);
        item.setItemMeta(meta);
        return item;
    }

    public static ItemStack removeEnchant(ItemStack item, String enchantName) {
        if (item == null || !item.hasItemMeta() || !item.getItemMeta().hasLore()) {
            return item;
        }

        ItemMeta meta = item.getItemMeta();
        List<String> lore = new ArrayList<>(meta.getLore());

        lore.removeIf(line -> ChatColor.stripColor(line).trim().startsWith(enchantName));

        meta.setLore(lore);
        item.setItemMeta(meta);
        return item;
    }

    public static boolean hasEnchant(ItemStack item, String enchantName) {
        if (item == null || !item.hasItemMeta() || !item.getItemMeta().hasLore()) {
            return false;
        }

        for (String lore : item.getItemMeta().getLore()) {
            if (ChatColor.stripColor(lore).trim().startsWith(enchantName)) {
                return true;
            }
        }
        return false;
    }```

this is what i kind of made out? most of it is kinda copied from an old repo

im confused why using nbts wouldnt be better tho lol

[sly topaz]

mostly because you don't get any inter-compatibility with other plugins that way

though you don't get that either by using the lore but alas

[lapis hinge]

i see

@sly topaz last thing, when reducing players heart here? what is the best function to use?

i see there is a damage function

the software i used on bedrock i would just do setHealth(health - 2)

[sly topaz]

damage will deal actual damage, meaning it will respect any damage reduction modifier (that is, armor, enchantments, etc)

setHealth won't, but you can do that too

[wet breach]

Pretty sure damage also initiates hurt animation while sethealth wont

[tall dome]

Hi!
I've noticed that org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager class is marked as @Deprecated(forRemoval = true) but PluginManager isn't. What will SimplePluginManager be replaced by?

[chrome beacon]

It is not

As for Paper you should ask them

[tall dome]

My bad, it's marked in Paper

[wooden bay]

ye

[trim depot]

Thank you ❤️

[solid wave]

anyone help me pls

my player data was lost when i join a sever by bungecoord

idk how to fix that

[chrome beacon]

enable bungeecord mode on the server

[solid wave]

i đi

i did

[chrome beacon]

is online mode enabled on the Bungeecord

[solid wave]

yes

i can join the sever

but the player data was lost

[chrome beacon]

you can do that with offline mode as well

anyways double check that bungeecord is set to true in the spigot.yml

and that you're connecting through the Bungeecord and not directly to the server

[young knoll]

What’s that other thing

IP forwarding?

[wet breach]

its not lost. The UUID of players is different in offline mode then it is for online mode

what you can do is find your offline mode UUID and then find the corresponding file and update the uuid of said file to be online ones

[solid wave]

oh

how to find uuid

are the files in playerdata is uuid?

[chrome beacon]

The uuids should not change when the proxy is setup correctly (ip-forwarding enabled). Bungeecord can pass the ip and online mode data to the server

Which is why I was asking the questions about the setup earlier

[solid wave]

ik

and how can i fix

idk where to find offline mode uuid

[chrome beacon]

Was your server in offline mode before you added the Bungeecord

[solid wave]

yes

[chrome beacon]

So all of your save data is in offline mode form?

[solid wave]

yes

[chrome beacon]

Do you want to convert them to enable online mode

[solid wave]

my sever still offline mod

[chrome beacon]

yeah but the Bungeecord probably isn't

[solid wave]

no

[wet breach]

if bungeecord was in offline mode the UUID's will definitely change

[solid wave]

ye

[solid wave]

my bungee was in online mode

and the sever that lost data is offline

[chrome beacon]

set bungeecord to offline mode

[wet breach]

ah ok so I see what happened

[solid wave]

oh

[wet breach]

you directly connected to the server then, which caused offline UUID to generate

[solid wave]

sao i just need to change bunge to offline mode?

[chrome beacon]

yes

[wet breach]

instead of connecting through proxy, and then when you connected through proxy it was online UUID. Either way, it is an easy fix to get your data back

[solid wave]

dang

many yt tutorial say i need to change to online mode

that why

[wet breach]

since the data was never deleted or removed that is

[solid wave]

k

[chrome beacon]

well yeah the tutorials aren't designed for cracked users

[solid wave]

yes

it's work

thank yall

[wet breach]

[solid wave]

silly mistake lol

[robust helm]

Is there an event for an item changing its slot in an inventory with something like getOldSlot() and getNewSlot()?

[pseudo hazel]

its usually a combination of multiple events

[brittle geyser]

no

[brittle geyser]

check InventoryDragEvent

[sly topaz]

InventoryDragEvent is only for when they literally drag items around the inventory

InventoryClickEvent should fire for 90% of the slot changes

or if you're not shy to internals, you can hook into the Slot object which will allow you to do things when it changes

[pure dagger]

How much memory does an empyty class instance take

[brittle geyser]

is it chatgpt prompt?

[pure dagger]

🤔

[brittle geyser]

In most languages, an “empty” class instance is not actually size-zero — there’s always some overhead for bookkeeping.
If we take Java as the example (since that’s your main language), here’s what happens under a 64-bit HotSpot JVM with compressed OOPs (ordinary object pointers) enabled:

• Object header:

  • Mark word — 8 bytes (stores hash code, GC info, lock state)
  • Class pointer — 4 bytes (pointer to class metadata; 8 bytes without compressed OOPs)

• Padding/alignment: JVM aligns objects to 8-byte boundaries.

• No instance fields — so only the header + padding remain.

That means:

Mark word   :  8 bytes
Class ptr   :  4 bytes
Padding     :  4 bytes
-----------------------
Total       : 16 bytes

So an “empty” object in Java is usually 16 bytes.

On other platforms or with other settings:

• Without compressed OOPs → usually 24 bytes.
• 32-bit JVM → usually 8 or 12 bytes (depends on alignment).
• C++/Rust/Go → an empty struct/class can be 0 bytes at the type level, but the language may still assign 1 byte or more when placed in memory, or add vtable pointers if polymorphism is involved.

If you want, I can show you how to actually measure this with Instrumentation.getObjectSize() in Java to see your exact JVM’s value.

[pure dagger]

Wow you typed that really fast

[brittle geyser]

xd

https://chatgpt.com/

[pseudo hazel]

sure ,but is it correct?

[grim hound]

uh

[grim hound]

(a different plugin throws this)

[solar slate]

doesn't look like a different plugin throws it

[grim hound]

SystemKamer depends on PoliceSystem, however, it does so with lazy loading, so no issue should ever occur

[solar slate]

Lazy loading?

[brittle geyser]

what is SystemKamer plugin?

[brittle geyser]

what it does

[grim hound]

it's my private plugin

[solar slate]

that would make sense why it says it's already enabled

[grim hound]

both of these

[grim hound]

huh

[brittle geyser]

i mean method onEnable

[grim hound]

none. of. your. business.

ah like

it just instantiates classes depending on PoliceSystem

[grim hound]

but it's delegated

does not reference it in the main class

[brittle geyser]

are you trying to create new plugin instance?

[grim hound]

no

so it shouldn't throw it

[brittle geyser]

show code

[solar slate]

Is it used as a dependency?

[grim hound]

yes

[grim hound]

.

[solar slate]

If it's used as a dependency why are you having to call the onEnable() method? Just having a hard time understanding the use case

[brittle geyser]

PoliceSystemPlugin:185

[grim hound]

.

[brittle geyser]

show what is below

[grim hound]

you don't reference the classes you depend on

[solar slate]

I assume the error at 185 is because you're already calling the onEnable() method from another plugin? (As long as im understanding this correctly)

[grim hound]

cuz for circular dependency

[grim hound]

I am not

[brittle geyser]

.

[grim hound]

not gonna fit

[brittle geyser]

maybe you forgot to replace new build

[grim hound]

a lot of field decl

[grim hound]

it's automatic

[solar slate]

ai seems to think the problem is within the PoliceSystem plugin 🤷

[torn shuttle]

ai needs to stop doing this

[wooden bay]

what does bro think about 🤔

[nova notch]

obviously it has to think about all the flaws of your prompt so that it can tell you you're doing everything perfectly

[torn shuttle]

if it wasnt' for the fact I'm doing DOTS in unity right now I wouldn't even use ai

I'm just not familiar enough with this entire ecossystem

[pure dagger]

what does that mean

do players always have an inventory open ?

[ivory sleet]

I men the client always keeps tracks of its own items you know

[pure dagger]

What does that mean

[torn shuttle]

I do not like var in C#

it's a bad feature made for bad people

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-gif-11630051

[ivory sleet]

whats bad about it, out of curiosity

[torn shuttle]

you have 1.5 seconds to figure out what type this is

        var temp = Instantiate(prefab);

vs

        GameObject temp = Instantiate(prefab);

[slender elbow]

does the statement "it's bad in C#" imply "it's not bad in Java"?

[torn shuttle]

no, I don't even acknowledge it as a real feature in java

if I don't see it it doesn't exist

[ivory sleet]

its clearly GameObject!

ye but I get what you mean; that is if knowing the exact type is important

[torn shuttle]

unless you've only ever vibecoded or are literally ai I can't imagine how not knowing what type a variable is wouldn't be a massive problem

if you don't know then you must look it up, you can do hardly anything without knowing what the types you're working with are

[ivory sleet]

yea, more meant, let's say you already know the type from a function parameter

then you're maybe invoking List#sublist(begin,end)

and store that in a variable

[torn shuttle]

sure, that can work if you are literaly writing the code right now

it's not going to fly when it's 3 years later and you were using two massive apis

[proud basin]

and I do not like you

[ivory sleet]

i mean sure, id just say depending on context, it can be more fine to utilise var as a means to shutdown verbosity

[ivory sleet]

maybe a bit too honest

[torn shuttle]

var a = ab(c);

mmmh

look how few letters I had to use

very efficient

[ivory sleet]

Im sure you could use fewer

[torn shuttle]

so true

you could even use emojis

[proud basin]

I thought we were expressing our feelings

[torn shuttle]

var 🚣‍♂️ = 🪵 ( 🏃‍➡️ );

are we reaching peak efficiency yet

[ivory sleet]

what if, no symbols at all are used

mind to mind telepathy

[torn shuttle]

=;

[echo basalt]

@lost matrix I need an opinion

[torn shuttle]

it's bad

yw

[echo basalt]

[torn shuttle]

when'd you start making emojis out of selfies

[remote swallow]

[echo basalt]

[young knoll]

You could just

Not use var

[echo basalt]

var bad

[slender elbow]

but what is the type of bad?

i can't read it

[torn shuttle]

I don't, but ai loves it

[slender elbow]

ai can suck my left nut

followed by the right one

[young knoll]

Tell the ai not to use it

[torn shuttle]

sounds like you'd have to pay for premium access for that type of treatmnet

[young knoll]

And if that doesn’t work idk, learn to write your own code

[torn shuttle]

the reason it annoys me is because I am rewriting it

I just didn't know the dots pipeline for unity so I had it generate one for me

if I wasn't going to touch it anyway it wouldn't bother me

also this pipeline is pretty neat

about 75k trees and shrubs and I'm cruising at 300 fps

nice

also much nicer than godot, unfortunately

[young knoll]

Skill issue

[torn shuttle]

I kinda wish

godot has some really nasty overhead for c# internally

there's like a whole thing about it

plus it only has extremely basic gpu instancing for meshes so you've basically invited to do everything from frustum culling to occlusion culling and lod

[young knoll]

Yeah but unity did that one bad PR move

[torn shuttle]

which to be clear is not why I stopped using godot, I was actually halfway thorugh writing my own systems for that

no, the reason I gave up on it is because you can't even get a decent profiler for it

I was having to profile through my ide

literally the godot wiki on their profilers

very funny

had a good laugh

[echo basalt]

🤔 How can I run a task for both active and inactive data, on a single worker node in a schedule, with fault tolerance

[torn shuttle]

sounds like unit testing

[echo basalt]

throwback to that one time I used weakreferences wrong at work and you'd just take damage (even on creative) every time GC hit

[torn shuttle]

weakreferences for weak people

seems about right

[echo basalt]

ah yes strong people have memory leaks

[torn shuttle]

means I had memory to leak

strong people rewrite projects from godot to unity to hit 400 fps

💪

[plush rivet]

If I have a Block in NMS, how do I go about changing the Hardness and Blast Resistance of the block?

[mortal hare]

bruh

    private void ignoreBranch(final JsonParser parser) throws IOException {
        JsonToken token = parser.nextToken();
        if (!token.isStructStart()) {
            return;
        }
        int depth = 1;
        while ((token = parser.nextToken()) != null) {
            if (token.isStructStart()) {
                depth++;
            } else if (token.isStructEnd()) {
                depth--;
            }

            if (depth == 0) {
                break;
            }
        }
    }

i've wrote this only to found out that parser.skipChildren() exists

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[torn shuttle]

man

it's so hard to get into data oriented programming after a decade of oop

not impossible or anything but I just keep finding new ways of recycling structs that I'm just not used to

[buoyant viper]

just Code

[torn shuttle]

I've been programming for absolutely crazy amounts of time these past few days

[weary folio]

@EventHandler
    public void OnPlayerJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        Player player = event.getPlayer();
        new BukkitRunnable() {
            @Override
            public void run(){
                String path = "players." + player.getUniqueId() + ".gui";
                List<ItemStack> items = (List<ItemStack>) plugin.getConfig().get(path);
                List<String> types = new ArrayList<>();


                for(ItemStack item : items) {
                    if (item == null) { return; }
                    NBT.get(item, nbt -> {
                        String type =  nbt.getString("type");

                        types.add(type);

                        if(type.equalsIgnoreCase("speed")) {
                            player.setWalkSpeed(0.3f);
                        }
                    });
                }
                player.sendMessage("5");
                if(!types.contains("speed")) {
                    player.setWalkSpeed(0.1f);
                }

            }
        }.runTaskTimerAsynchronously(plugin, 20, 0);

    }

i have this code here that works perfectly fine up until "player.sendMessage("5");"
where it does nothing after the for loop, what do you think i could be doing wrong to the point where no code inside of public void run() executes past the for loop?

[mortal hare]

sounds like a data race problem due to async timer? or maybe not since i dont see any collections being used outside the timer callback itself

what's the data type of NBT in this case?

have tried printing a debug message inside for loop? maybe all items are returned as null?

how does yaml file contents look like too

[weary folio]

NBT is an api where you can add nbt data to it

[weary folio]

ive done that already, and it works fine but no code runs after the for loop

[weary folio]

i used to have it so runTaskTimer wasnt asynchronous but that didnt work either

[weary folio]

the yaml file has the other stuff from my plugin, nothing else

[fresh timber]

omg bro

thing I put in a while ago so natural lightning strikes don't happen :)

ty lol

why does this crash the server?

                LightningStrike bolt = player.getWorld().strikeLightningEffect(player.getLocation());
                bolt.setVisibleByDefault(false);
                player.showEntity(getPlugin(), bolt);

It spams errors but I can't seem to find the newest error so here is the log (attached, very long error)

[weary folio]

so what is the fix?

[chrome beacon]

You're making a lightning strike in the lightning strike event causing a lightning strike event

Aka an infinite loop

[torn shuttle]

that moment when you unironically create a class called SystemManager

and nearly createa a SystemManagerFactory

[weary folio]

whats the full code?>

send the whole file

[torn shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[weary folio]

not the whole file just all the code inside the file

[torn shuttle]

it's not a power the jedi would teach you about

[tired elbow]

Hi

I'm having a problem working with a node system

The problem is this. I'm creating a node that has to do with the advance done, but I've already created its constructor, and now when I try to create an object or node with it, I get an error.

[weary folio]

i found this in the error: "Caused by: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError: Exception java.lang.StackOverflowError [in thread "Server thread"]"

[tired elbow]

I don't know if I'm mixing methods and things that have nothing to do with each other since I'm a junior, but I learned basic things.

[weary folio]

meaning that something is happening so fast that its overflowing

[fresh timber]

yes I figured it out

[weary folio]

is there anyway i can fix this issue?

[tired elbow]

hi

look at this💀

import org.bukkit.entity.Player;
import org.bukkit.event.EventHandler;
import org.bukkit.event.Listener;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerMoveEvent;

public class PlayerMoveNodo implements Listener {

public PlayerMoveNodo(PlayerMoveNodo event) {
    event.PlayerMoveNodo(new PlayerMoveEvent(null,null,null));
}

@EventHandler
public void PlayerMoveNodo(PlayerMoveEvent event){
    Player player = event.getPlayer();
    event.setCancelled(false);
    event.getPlayer();
    event.getFrom();
    event.getTo();
}

}

You understand the form of my code, because I don't

[nova notch]

...what in the hell

[pliant topaz]

an event listener doesnt need a defined constructor, you do not have to construct the event, it's passed to you in your PlayerMoveNodo method where it's annotated with @EventHandler

also, if the event hasn't been cancelled yet, you do not have to set cancelled to false.
The last 3 lines in your method do not do anything, they return the player, the location from where the player moved and location of where they moved to, but the return value of these methods is ignored and not e.g. set to a variable

and one last thing (this is personal preference), in java the most used naming convention is classes: MyClassName
methods/variable: myMethodName

[tired elbow]

Thanks and I'm here to explain to you about the canceled event XD

When I create an object with that class it cannot access the events

So I put variables of the events

[pliant topaz]

You do not need to create an object of an Event Listener

[tired elbow]

That is, use PlayerMoveNodo event1 = new PlayerMoveNodo();

Ok but I want to create nodes with OOP

POO**

[mortal vortex]

BAHAHAH POO

bahahaha

[pliant topaz]

That is not what you are supposed to do with an event listener, a listener listens to a specific event on the server and executes your logic, there should only exist one instance of a listener. You register it in your onEnable:
Bukkit.getPluginManager().registerEvents(new YourListenerClass(), this)
(this referring to the actual plugin instance)

[tired elbow]

Thanks, but how will I make my node system?

I want to do something similar to Visual Bukkit

I will find a solution on my own.

[pliant topaz]

I would not recommend creating something like visual bukkit for learning. In my case i created many small plugins to get into on how to use the api which helped a lot

[pliant topaz]

And what excactly do you mean with node system?

[tired elbow]

You know, little blocks of code that run from top to bottom.

How to scratt

Scratch

[pliant topaz]

Do you mean inheritence?

[tired elbow]

Yeah

POO

I know him as POO

[pliant topaz]

interesting name haha, but why would you need multiple instances of a listener? i dont really get your whole intention in what you are trying to achieve, sorry

[nova notch]

you need to start by learning java

[tired elbow]

First of all POO means

[pliant topaz]

wait, i think theres a resource for thath

[tired elbow]

Programación orientada a objetos

[pliant topaz]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

Codecademy - Learn Java: Interactive Java programming course from basics to more advanced concepts. Perfect for absolute beginners.
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
JetBrains Academy - Java Developer Track: Learn by doing with projects and challenges. It covers Java fundamentals to advanced topics.
https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/
Udemy - Java Programming Masterclass for Software Developers: Updated courses that cover Java 8 to Java 17 features. Suitable for those who prefer structured learning.
https://www.udemy.com/course/java-the-complete-java-developer-course/

For Intermediate to Advanced Learners:

Oracle Java Tutorials: The official guides by Oracle for Java programming—great for understanding the depth of Java.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
Baeldung - Learn Java and Spring: Focus on Spring Framework and modern Java technologies. Best for intermediate learners aiming to expand their knowledge.
https://www.baeldung.com/

Practice and Hands-on Learning:

Exercism - Java Track: Solve exercises and get feedback from mentors. Great for practicing coding skills.
https://exercism.io/tracks/java
LeetCode: Practice your coding skills and prepare for technical interviews with Java.
https://leetcode.com/

Free Resources and Documentation:

Java Programming and Documentation: A comprehensive collection of Java programming guides, tutorials, and API documentation.
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/

Community and Support:

Stack Overflow: A vast community of developers. Great for getting help with specific problems or understanding concepts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java
r/learnjava on Reddit: Join the community of Java learners and get advice, share resources, and discuss projects.
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjava/

Remember: Learning to program takes practice and patience. Don't hesitate to experiment with code and participate in community discussions. Happy coding! 🎉

[tired elbow]

I've been watching a course from a guy named Mauredev.

[pliant topaz]

Theres a few useful sources you can check out :)

[tired elbow]

And I've been learning on sololearn

Well, what about the nodes

I want to make a basic API to understand and more than understanding with nodes

[pliant topaz]

I dont know if an api for starting is not a little much for the beginning, but you can give it a try

[tired elbow]

It was that or a minigame.

[pliant topaz]

I think a minigame will be easier

[tired elbow]

I also have other projects like a mod

[pliant topaz]

Or even just a simple spawn protection plugin

[tired elbow]

Maybe yes, but there are almost no tutorials in Spanish.

Programación
Orientada a
Objetos
POO

[nova notch]

we heard you the first 5 times

[tired elbow]

XD

In case it's not clear

[pliant topaz]

You can just experiment :) its a lot of fun and teaches you a few things. The javadocs will probably be of help for that: https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/

[tired elbow]

Sure bro, I based my code on that thanks

[pliant topaz]

For learning java in general the same applies, small, but different applications make a good learning foundation. Bigger projects right at the start can be a bit much when you do not have too much experience with java and the api itself

[tired elbow]

Oh sure, the furthest I got was when I added a mob with Geckolib just by looking at the wiki because no tutorial was updated to my version 🥶🥶🥶

What's more, I have the entity and it flies and shoots air balls.

[wet breach]

Nothing like having a large project full of bad code thus being suboptimal and using more resources than necessary

But then again that is your average free plugin for you lol

[pliant topaz]

lmao

[tender shard]

I remember my first java course in school a thousand years ago, we had to use some weird tool called "Hamster Simulator" where you control a hamster sprite with java lul

[pliant topaz]

We had to control a atomic cleanup robot with greenfoot. There was much swearing against it from my side...

It hung up, hat no auto-import and was stuck on java 8 😭

[lost matrix]

A friend of mine that started "Wirtschaftsinformatik" asked me if i could help her solve a module.
They had a ladybug sprite that was in a forest and needed to be moved...

[young knoll]

Reminds me of what was basically my first programming experience back when I was like 11

Moving a little robot using what was basically scratch but even more basic

[grave plover]

„Wirtschaftsinformatiker are no real Informatiker“ - a Mentor from the Ersties Program of my Uni

[pliant topaz]

I dont really get why Wirtschaftsinformatik is its own field tbh

[pure dagger]

what is this description...

how do i learn something from these docs... am i dumb

[slender elbow]

dokumention :stonks:

[pure dagger]

-_- what

what the hell is that class for

[robust helm]

i think its used to represent a registered storage provider

not sure though

[pure dagger]

service

bro

u ruined

that

[solid wave]

my geyser stop working after i put my sever in bunge

anyone know why?

[chrome beacon]

Did you setup Geyser on the Bungeecord

if not you need to do so since all players should be connecting through that and not directly to the server

[solid wave]

yes i did

but it still wont work

[chrome beacon]

and what happens when you try to connect

[solid wave]

idk

i use/plugins

and see the geyser red

[chrome beacon]

/plugins shows plugins on the server

not Bungeecord

[solid wave]

oh

[chrome beacon]

also a red plugin indicates somethings wrong, check the log for errors during startup

https://geysermc.org/wiki/geyser/setup?host=self&platform=proxy-servers

You do not need Geyser on the server ^

[solid wave]

which sever

u mean only the bunge and the lobby sever need it?

[chrome beacon]

No

Only Bungee

[solid wave]

oh ok

[chrome beacon]

Refer to the setup guide I linked

[solid wave]

it's work

tysm

[lean pumice]

@lost matrix srry for the ping, I remember you made a guide on the logic of how to create a well-made minigame plugin, but I can't find the post anymore.

[worthy yarrow]

That may have been illusion

https://github.com/IllusionTheDev/Minigame-Demo @lean pumice

[robust helm]

ping dont work when editing btw

[worthy yarrow]

I swore it did

@lean pumice

(sorry if I double pinged kek)

[robust helm]

i swore afaik it didnt

[worthy yarrow]

I feel like I've been pinged from them before

who knows, discord will be discord

[young knoll]

Let’s find out!

@worthy yarrow is smelly

[worthy yarrow]

No it does not

[worthy yarrow]

Fortunately I've been taking more showers so this no longer applies to me D:

It'd be cool if you could edit a reply ping

[lean pumice]

Tnx tnx

[fickle spindle]

can i make like that on Tab without a command it doesn't give you all the players name but it give you some words i type an argument in a command?

[thorn isle]

yes

[fickle spindle]

How?

[thorn isle]

implement TabCompleter

[fickle spindle]

But it works for commands

[young knoll]

What

[fickle spindle]

There is a way for edit the Tab complete when it isn't a command

Like to make chat commands

[young knoll]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#setCustomChatCompletions(java.util.Collection)

[fickle spindle]

And i can make with this method if too? For example if I type hello can I get a different type completion?

[young knoll]

Don’t think so

[fickle spindle]

Okay thanks anyways

[shadow vale]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[fickle spindle]

The site isn't loading maybe because I'm to scared for nms

[eternal oxide]

@tender shard fix your site!

[shadow vale]

ye

[thorn isle]

no, not as of 1.13 or whenever we switched to brigadier

command completions are only sent for commands now

you used to be able to eavesdrop on exact keypresses in the chatbox since the client would send a tabcomplete request for every keypress in chat, command or not, before

[clear elm]

how can i make a plugin which uses vault a standalone economy plugin

[thorn isle]

what now

[cobalt drift]

Hi, whats the best and easiest way to get the Base64 representation of an itemstack?

[thorn isle]

serialize to bytes and then encode the bytes into base64

what do you need a base64 representation specifically for, though? if you're storing it in a database as a string, the snbt string is probably better; the bytes can also be stored as a blob

if you're storing it in a config, json/snbt is much better than base64

if it's just on disk in a file, raw bytes are fine

[lilac dagger]

i just put the json directly in my sqlite/mysql database

and it works just fine

[grand flint]

it does and its so shit

[lilac dagger]

i have a settings map and i convert it to json and store it

[grand flint]

bo point kf ever using sql

[lilac dagger]

it's so nice that it work

[grand flint]

if ur storing full json

some plugins do that

[lilac dagger]

wait

[grand flint]

i just never use them

stupid fucking plugins

[lilac dagger]

i have stats as well 😄

it's just nice having the options inside the same database

[grand flint]

yeah

mongodb ;D

[lilac dagger]

well

there are options

but for my need this is great

default options doesn't show

[grand flint]

u cant even edit the value properly with phpmyadmin

[slender elbow]

phpmyadmin ☠️

[quaint mantle]

phpmyadmin in big 25 🥀

[grand flint]

balright

what else would i use

[lilac dagger]

well

[slender elbow]

making a good application frontend

[lilac dagger]

you just don't edit the options

[plush sluice]

for ex I use datagrip

[grand flint]

..??

for plugins?

[slender elbow]

sure

[grand flint]

60~ plugins??

dont be a dumbass

most of them have web ui that suppoets it

im not making a frontend for 60 plugins

[quaint mantle]

https://www.jetbrains.com/pages/intellij-idea-databases/#

[grand flint]

anything important has a page

[slender elbow]

I'm talking about when making your own product

not navigating someone else's database

that's yuck

[grand flint]

dope

[quaint mantle]

Or actually typing something into sql console

[slender elbow]

they should offer a good frontend

[grand flint]

well yeah obv??

[slender elbow]

then?

[grand flint]

we r in spigot btw

🙏

[slender elbow]

and?

[grand flint]

im obv talking about plugins emily

[slender elbow]

me too

a plugin is an end user application in the end

[grand flint]

idek when i got here tbh

i was in general

[grand flint]

ah i love devoting my free time to make a good frontend for my free plugin that has mysql

so then everyone come and ask support about how to set it up and use it

[slender elbow]

by frontend I don't mean a web ui or some panel

i just mean general editing frontend wherever

presentable

inventory GUI, dialogs, commands even

rather than having the user go to the database directly

[grand flint]

that ob exists for most plugins

bro what r u on about emily

did u think i go to my database to edit my plugin configs 😭

[slender elbow]

why else would you use phpmyadmin lpl

[grand flint]

well a lot of sfuff

for example my guild plugin decided to delete my entire guilds table

so i had to use phpmyadmin to restore it and resetup some database only values

there is tons of things

[slender elbow]

bad plugin

keep backups

[grand flint]

yeah i do thats why i restored it

it decided to delete 300~ guilds bc it couldnt find the table w a name

[short pilot]

is there a good way to find out the earliest version your plugin will be compatible with? I'd like to reach as many as possible and am currently using 1.18.2 spigot

[cobalt drift]

What is snbt?

[thorn isle]

string nbt basically

[cobalt drift]

Ah ok, I want to save in database but blob is too long in my opinion. How do I serialize the itemstack to bytes?

[thorn isle]

the shit you enter in the /give command

it's a paper specific feature, ItemStack::serializeToBytes

this gives you a byte[]

[cobalt drift]

And for Spigot?

[thorn isle]

glhf

[plush rivet]

eh?
if you dare

[thorn isle]

bukkit object stream or some shit

[cobalt drift]

Ah that one …

[thorn isle]

you shouldn't use bukkit object stream apparently

i don't remember why but i remember someone here getting mad every time it's brought up

but i also don't remember the proper way to serialize items on spigot

[cobalt drift]

Ok maybe someone will say me how to do it better. Maybe I will just send my solution in here and hope that someone gets mad haha

But thank you so far

[sly topaz]

BOS is fine

paper people get mad at it because it has the same issues as ConfigurationSerializable ItemStack serialization

[plush rivet]

With a block in NMS, how would I go about changing the hardness and blast resistance?
I think I need to get the BlockData from a registry? to then change the values and then re-apply it to the block? I'm not sure
Any help is appreciated

[young knoll]

You need to replace the entire registry object

Also changing the hardness will cause clients to behave weirdly

[buoyant viper]

whatever version ur spigot-api version is for is a good indicator

u can gradually lower it too if ur not using features for the latest version

[short pilot]

ah yes i meant the latter thing u said

is there a way to tell the minimum lowest version supported (assuming every later version is thus supported)

or do i have to plug and check

the feature part makes sense too, like if you're taking an entire mob that hasnt been released yet

[short pilot]

oki

[mortal vortex]

Is it possible to get the death message string as the translation keys, like death.attack.fall?

[worthy yarrow]

I don’t think so, I’ve been making a debugger and ran into this issue so I just basically mapped damage causes to strings

[mortal vortex]

Oof okay

You made a lib out of it?

[worthy yarrow]

No, sorry

Working on the actual relayed debug info and making it easier for end users to read

Maybe might do that eventually, haven’t decided but kinda niche

[halcyon osprey]

Hello, I have a question about CommandExecutors, is there any built-in way to validate user input?

Otherwise, is there a popular library to faciliate this?

I see there's https://github.com/CommandAPI/CommandAPI - is this widely used and trustworthy?

[mortal vortex]

No it has 620 stars for no reason.

[halcyon osprey]

Haha, of course stars mean everything, you can't bot them, and they definitely 100% correlate with usage on Minecraft servers. Silly me, a beginner asking for feedback, trying to verify with users in the community!

[mortal vortex]

i've never heard of people botting stars on GitHub for a minecraft projectttt...?

with a commit history that goes back years?

[halcyon osprey]

Irrelevant, stars don't mean everything nor do they answer all questions. So maybe next time don't make such a sarcastic comment and instead be open to the idea that some users don't have much experience 🙂

Otherwise you could choose not to reply, thanks!

[mortal vortex]

they definitely 100% correlate with usage...
mfw then they show usage stats on the readme

[halcyon osprey]

So from your perspective anything with 600 stars is trustworthy and widely used. Noted, I think I'll wait for a more informed reply, but I appreciate your sarcasm and your condescending replies to a beginner. Indeed very helpful.

[nova notch]

you cant bot 32 contributors

[mortal vortex]

THEY SHOW SPIGOT, AND MODRINTH DOWNLOADS BRUH IM NOT TALKING ABOUT STARS ANYMORE

but alr bro

if u think spigot and modrinth has a botting problem, then sure, every plugin may as well be botted?

Can you survey how many plugins or servers run an API? no?

You can only take the word of users, and those stars and downloads are users.

[halcyon osprey]

Okay, I don't care from some statistics showing downloads or stars. Please let's not turn this into an argument. You can think downloads correlate to trustworthiness, I will choose to be more cautious. If you don't have any good feedback then you're not obligated to reply, thanks!

[mortal vortex]

Then how else do you want to gauge trust worthiness? From word of mouth? Sure. You trust Google as a company because you know that practically everyone is using it, you wouldn't trust it if just one person said "yeah i trust it". But in this situation, what are you expecting? Every person to say, "yeah I trust it". If anything you're going to get one person respond and say "Yeah its trustworhy".

[halcyon osprey]

Not interesting in arguing, I'm here to ask a question and you seem to be keen to debate it. I get it, 602 stars tells the whole story for you. I'm not interested in that, so let's end it here and perhaps someone else will reply.

[mortal vortex]

we have already deduced that:
a) its impossible to get a metric of who's using it
b) the only metric would be word of mouth
c) word of mouth is not possible to ascertain from a small pool.

but alright, continue being dense.

[nova notch]

you probably should consider more "do i need this for my project" and go from there

i think the answer to whether its trustworthy is clear

you can also determine "widely used" by looking at the downloads

[mortal vortex]

nah, the 626 stars are botted dude

[mortal vortex]

again botted bro

[halcyon osprey]

Abb3v, must you be so condescending?

Perhaps not reply, I would appreciate it

[mortal vortex]

This is like when my parents yell my full name holy shit.

[halcyon osprey]

It does seem like a useful plugin, as from what I can tell there is no built-in input validation nor way to support annotations as the user types

[mortal vortex]

I wonder, when buying things at a supermarket, do you hold each item, wait for a dozen people to walk by and ask what they think?

👏 free spirited individual

[halcyon osprey]

Abb3v, I understand you're angry that I'm not taking your "602 stars means everything" comment seriously. We can agree to disagree. Please feel free to stop derailing.

[mortal vortex]

626*

[glossy laurel]

Well, you should probably read what it does and decide whether that is sufficient for your needs, we can't really decide for you

[mortal vortex]

😭

[halcyon osprey]

Indeed, yes it does fit my needs. I was wondering about the reliability and usage of such a plugin in the community, as well as if there were any more popular alternatives or in fact built in methods. I have gathered that no such built-in methods exist.

Perhaps I should have known all this from the fact that the project has 626 stars

[mortal vortex]

Went off at me for being sarcastic but look whos the smartass now?

[nova notch]

🍿

[halcyon osprey]

Ah, so you can see how it is? Perhaps then we can agree to disagree.

You could be nicer and less condescending to a beginner asking for help.

[nova notch]

thats kinda just how a lot of mc dev communities are tbh

[glossy laurel]

||I mean, I think you should've asked whether there were alternatives, rather than if this was a reliable plugin 🤷‍♂️ ||

[halcyon osprey]

In my mind this was sort of implied by the question, but you are right I could have clarified

[mortal vortex]

im not being condescending, you asked if it was trustworthy, not if it can do everything you asked of it? So yes, Stars are a metric of that.

[glossy laurel]

^

[halcyon osprey]

This was definitely not condescending 🙂

"You idiot look at the stars"

[mortal vortex]

never said that

did i call you an idiot?

[halcyon osprey]

Ah, alright, that was definitely not the implication. Glad to see we're being honest!

[mortal vortex]

ok.

[halcyon osprey]

Unfortunate

But I appreciate the openness and helpful replies @nova notch @glossy laurel

[mortal vortex]

"you're not in the list abb3v, go fuck yourself"
(ahem, like you said, an implication)

[halcyon osprey]

That one I'll admit

[mortal vortex]

LOL ur funny now

[halcyon osprey]

That was 100% my intention

[jagged thicket]

🎊

[mortal vortex]

happy independence day gng

[jagged thicket]

thanks

[mortal vortex]

love from bjp

[swift lichen]

I need help.

I have already coded myself a rank system using permissions, but now I am stuck here:

I want to sort all people on the tab board by their name, meaning this order as an example:

OWNER
DEV
ADMIN
MOD
PLAYER

I have no clue how to do so...I would appreciate any help

[young knoll]

I believe you need to use colour characters to do it

Since tab is alphabetical

[glossy laurel]

Is thats how its done? Thats cool

[sullen canyon]

put numbers before team names

[young knoll]

I think there might also be a packet for tab priority now

But I don’t know if we have api for it

[sly topaz]

yeah the player info packet handles priority now

[mighty marsh]

Easiest is to put numbers before the team names

0000 comes first

then 0001 etc.

However many roles you need

[young knoll]

Ah we do have api for it

Player#setPlayerListOrder

[swift lichen]

well yes, but if someone names himself 000001 for example, theywil suddenly be at the top of the scoreboard yk

[swift lichen]

I have already seen that one, how exactly do I use this tho...

I mean in intelli it just says red, and you cant use a "#" for anyhting

[chrome beacon]

Yeah you don't actually put #

[swift lichen]

oh yes, I just saw, it just means someting like a method in a class

[chrome beacon]

yeah

[swift lichen]

is this a good code for that?

    int order;

    switch (playerDataManager.getPlayerRank(player.getUniqueId())) {
        case DEV:
            order = 0;
            break;
        case ADMIN:
            order = 1;
            break;
        case MOD:
            order = 2;
            break;
        case PLAYER:
        default:
            order = 3;
            break;
    }

    player.setPlayerListOrder(order);
}```

[chrome beacon]

Could consider making the ranks an object

containing their display name order etc

instead of hardcoding an enum

[swift lichen]

oh true

good idea

I will make this after I managed to do that stuff with the sorting, ty for the idea

[mighty marsh]

No it goes on team name first, then alphabetically within the team

So if player B is in team 00_Owner and player A is in team 01_Admin then B will come before A

[swift lichen]

Oh

[fresh timber]

does Bukkit.getEntity(UUID) require the entity with that uuid to be in a loaded chunk to find them?

[eternal night]

Yes q

[fresh timber]

rip

[fresh timber]

I have per player text displays, is it safe to store these in a map that contains the entity object so I can unload them when the player leaves?

I was told it can cause memory leaks or something so I used uuids but then I can't unload them

[eternal night]

Mark them as non persistent

That way they will be auto despawened when their chunk is unloaded

[fresh timber]

bro I want them to stay if the chunk is unloaded for hte player

[chrome beacon]

Then respawn them when the chunk is loaded again

[fresh timber]

seems like that would cause performance issues to constantly respawn them

[chrome beacon]

Not that bad

[fresh timber]

will Chunk objects stay the same throughout server runtime so I can store chunks that have text displays for the player in a map

[chrome beacon]

I believe it should be fine looking at the implementation

Just be aware that it holds a reference to the world

so it could be problematic if the world is to be unloaded

[fresh timber]

that probably wont happen

thanks

[slender elbow]

i mean, it would be no different than the game spawning them when the chunk loads? lol

like, quite literally, instead of the game spawning it, you spawn it

[fresh timber]

also the chunk will pretty rarely ever reload because I forceload a lot of chunks and the map is very small, so should I still do this?

[worthy yarrow]

It’d be nice to ensure no displays accidentally stick around

[fresh timber]

oh yeah I guess it fixes the problem

cus if the chunk is loaded it can remove it on quit

[worthy yarrow]

There can certainly be some issues where they stick around after you’re done tracking them and then now you can’t remove them

I mean you can… but not without extra effort programmatically or the vanilla /kill command

[fresh timber]

I mean yeah I mark all these player displays with nbts so it shouldn't be too hard to remove them

[worthy yarrow]

Easiest to just mark them as non persistent, they’re display entities so in the sense of a traditional entity object, they’re a lot more performant

[slender elbow]

there is no reason not to mark it as non-persistent

[worthy yarrow]

^ realistically you’re not tracking them when you don’t need to anyway

Just makes cleanup easier and you can still do so manually while tracking

[fresh timber]

well then I have to rewrite all my code to spawn em in again

also if I save the text display object in a map and mark it as non persistent then it gets despawned because they unload the chunk, can I respawn it with just calling the object and spawning at its own location?

[slender elbow]

well, not the Entity reference itself

you could store the entitysnapshot

[hardy garnet]

Hey, I am having an issue of DisplayEntities randomly disappearing upon server restart. I am also having an issue where mobs marked as persistent are also disappearing on server restart. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this issue?

[chrome beacon]

Any plugins installed?

[hardy garnet]

None besides the one im working on

which doesnt despawn entities like that

[chrome beacon]

What version are you on

[hardy garnet]

1.21.8

[chrome beacon]

output from /version

[hardy garnet]

latest

is what it says

wait

CraftBukkit version 4528-Spigot-7c52c66-37c783b (MC: 1.21.8) (Implementing API version 1.21.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)

[chrome beacon]

Is the despawning entirely random?

or is there any way to recreate it?

[hardy garnet]

Its seemingly random

some locations the entities are entirely gone

other locations the display entities are there, but the mob entities are not

the only consistent thing is they are all present before the server saves and shuts down

I know, because I went and checked them all. Unloaded and reloaded chunks. Relogged

I am in the middle of refactoring, so what I might end up doing is loading all those chunks and just removing the entities and respawning them

a little annoying, but thats life

[young knoll]

As long as you don’t do setPersistent(false) they should stay

Except for monsters that may despawn

[hardy garnet]

monsters despawn even if you setPersistent(true)?

[young knoll]

Yes

That’s only for them being saved in chunk unload

You want setRemoveWhenFarAway(false)

[mortal vortex]

When an item has not been modified, in vanilla it shows that "When in Main Hand" followed by some attributes like: 6 attack damage, 1.2 attack speed...

Are those values accessible from ItemMeta? I was trying to do :

meta.getAttributeModifiers(EquipmentSlot.HAND);

but I imagine thats only if the item has been modified? So is there not a way to get those values?

Otherwise should i define it all inside the plugin? like:

 public static Double getAttackDamage(Material material) {
        return switch (material) {
            case WOODEN_SWORD -> 4.0;
            case STONE_SWORD -> 5.0;
            case IRON_SWORD -> 6.0;
            case DIAMOND_SWORD -> 7.0;

and then only change it if a meta modifier was found?

[young knoll]

Material#getDefaultAttributeModifiers

[mortal vortex]

thanks hunk

[mortal vortex]

Do enchanted books store enchantments different to items?

[slender elbow]

yes

they are stored in the stored_enchantments component as opposed to the enchantments

[young knoll]

EnchantmentStorageMeta

Throwback to when they stored them the same way and silk touch books meant free grass blocks

[mortal vortex]

for fuck sakes bruh

now i gotta check if this bullshit is an enchanted book?

[manic delta]

#help-server

This is for development

[quaint mantle]

Sorry and thank you!

[versed ember]

I'm trying to hide the attack damage / attack speed stats on an ItemStack, but everything I can find explaining it uses something deprecated, how can I hide them now?

in 1.21.1, specifically

[buoyant viper]

is it deprecated bc it's old or is it deprecated bc it's experimental

[versed ember]

bc it's old

[buoyant viper]

F

[kind hatch]

Take a look at the ItemFlag class

[versed ember]

oh awesome tysm

[versed ember]

I'm surely doing this wrong in many ways, but do you know why this doesn't work?

ItemStack set_attributes_hidden_item = ((Player) sender).getEquipment().getItemInMainHand();
ItemMeta set_attributes_hidden_meta = set_attributes_hidden_item.getItemMeta();
assert set_attributes_hidden_meta != null;
set_attributes_hidden_meta.addItemFlags(ItemFlag.HIDE_ATTRIBUTES, ItemFlag.HIDE_ADDITIONAL_TOOLTIP);
set_attributes_hidden_item.setItemMeta(set_attributes_hidden_meta);

((Player) sender).getEquipment().setItemInMainHand(set_attributes_hidden_item);

[kind hatch]

You need to apply the ItemMeta to the ItemStack using ItemStack#setItemMeta(ItemMeta meta)

Then set the itemstack in the players inventory

Everything else looks good, minus the snake case naming convention, just gotta tie the meta to the item.

[versed ember]

you're right about the snake case, I'm used to GDScript where it's normal 😭😭

[kind hatch]

Yea, it’s not really a big deal, but I just wanted to point it out since Java conventions. :p

[versed ember]

fair enough!

[versed ember]

very stupid question, but what do you mean by "ItemStack#setItemMeta()"? is that different from this:

set_attributes_hidden_item.setItemMeta(set_attributes_hidden_meta);

[kind hatch]

Oh, I guess I missed that

[versed ember]

ah lmao

[kind hatch]

I’m on my phone right now so it’s hard to read the code blocks

But no, that’s how you do it.

[chrome beacon]

Are you running Paper

[versed ember]

weird, it doesn't seem to do anything, it looks the same in-game

[versed ember]

Purpur, which should work the same in this context right?

[kind hatch]

Ohhhh, wait

[chrome beacon]

Yeah

[kind hatch]

The item flag you have isn’t correct

Hide additional tool tips doesn’t work on attributes anymore

There are specific flags for it

[chrome beacon]

You need add an attribute modifier to make the hide attributes flag work. This is not required on Spigot

[versed ember]

I was mainly just trying to remove the attack damage and attack speed on swords, I was kinda just trying HIDE_ADDITIONAL_TOOLTIP to see if that was what I needed

[versed ember]

ooooooooh ok

[kind hatch]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/inventory/ItemFlag.html

I think you want #HIDE_ATTRIBUTES

[chrome beacon]

Adding any attribute modifier will overwrite the default ones

On Spigot adding the flag will remove all attributes implicitly when the hide attributes flag is set. Paper on the other hand requires you to add an attribute so it's not using the defaults

Small differences like this is why you really should ask in the right discord for what you're programming/tasting against

Especially now with Papers hardfork causing more and more deviations in api

[versed ember]

ooooooooooh that's right, I forgot they did that, I still thought they'd work the same way

so I just need to add a new attribute to the item for it to hide them?

[chrome beacon]

A new attribute modifier, yes

[versed ember]

perfect, ty!

soooooo I may or may not have another issue...

that kinda brings me back to my initial question, AttributeModifier() is deprecated, so how do I add an attribute modifier to an item now?

[wet breach]

I do love the taste of code

[versed ember]

mmmm paper

[wet breach]

not sure how paper does their stuff, but deprecated does not necessarily mean unusable. Usually should read the notes for the deprecation as it will indicate if there is a new api for it or not. If there is not then odds are it still works

[versed ember]

I think I figured it out, it looks like it's just a certain use for it that's deprecated, so if I use args of a different type it works

[mortal vortex]

pov: @versed ember

[versed ember]

I assumed that I'd have to change the code to support newer stuff if I used a newer version, and since I started learning java today I wasn't gonna bother, but ig I thought wrong

[buoyant viper]

why is my intellij autoformatting like this shit ass way

[wet breach]

seems its formatting after the semi colon which typically indicates the end of a line lol

probably should check your formatting rules

[buoyant viper]

i have like never touched them so idk why its doing that

[wet breach]

well since intelliJ is a big fan of shortcuts for everything, maybe its possible it was activated with a short cut?

[mortal vortex]

Has anyone been told yet by intellij that their code is violent to minorities?

Because it happened to me

[buoyant viper]

well

what expression is it

[wet breach]

apparently you can report to intelliJ code stuff that is offensive or whatever

not sure why IntelliJ cares but seems they do

[mortal vortex]

You can name your function the n word and it wont care.

not to insinuate i tried

[wet breach]

Well it is because people have to report it

so its not like a premade filter thing

[mortal vortex]

youd think... theyd have a list already?

[eternal night]

Isn't that just spelling / grammar helper?

[buoyant viper]

hang on

so the formatting was stupid because i was stupid

i forgot int i

i just typed int =

[wet breach]

lol

[buoyant viper]

ah

so my intellij is just fucked as a whole

its not highlighting errors in my code

like at all

just wont pop up until i try to compile

[pliant topaz]

IJ at it's best

[mortal vortex]

"violent associations"?

this a DEI-grammarly inside of a code editor?

[eternal night]

Dei?

[mortal vortex]

question mark because u dont know the acronym or?

[eternal night]

Because I don't see how DEI, a program related to employer responsibilities is connected to writing neutral English

[mortal vortex]

im making a joke?

and also wdym "neutral english"?

[mortal vortex]

"Neutral" English is not a linguistical concept, its a political / social concept.

"neutral" is a word to describe a style of writing, like formal or informal. OR relating to bias / stigmatism

if you genuinely believe that "target" is informal for that context then you severely misunderstand english

[eternal night]

No, in this context it's fine

But whatever spellchecker IJ uses does not get that

[mortal vortex]

which explains my joke

[eternal night]

Yea my bad it must have flown over my head

[mortal vortex]

really cant tell if ur being sarcastic?

[mortal vortex]

Neutral English in grammar generally applies to the half way point between formal language / informal language. "Neutral" English in this case is not that, it means "neutral communication", which is:

language that upholds inclusivity, and avoids words with otentially harmful, violent, or exclusionary connotations.
This is obviously the intended usage of it when they say "violent associations"... so its being political. DEI as an acronym means Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. its not just for employer resonsibilities. its essentially like an initative for how to act

[eternal night]

Thanks for the explanation!

[mortal vortex]

okay asshole

wait, makes sense ur a person that agrees with rad.

[eternal night]

[mortal vortex]

what, is this not meant to be sarcastic?

[eternal night]

I did not previously consider neutral English to target inclusivity lol

In my head it was just avoiding strong or emotional words

Under your above definition the DEI joke makes more sense

[mortal vortex]

alr i apologies for my language then. i thought u were being a smug asshole

[hardy garnet]

Are mobs that are e.setInvulnerable(true);

only hittable when in creative mode? I am able to hit them in creative mode but not survival

[mortal vortex]

Creative ignore the invulnerability flag for most entities i think

[hardy garnet]

Gotcha, dang

[mortal vortex]

Why? What do you need

[hardy garnet]

I've got a work around and all, its just less elegant im fine

[mortal vortex]

i mean, what are you trying to do that warrants such a question? perhaps u coud get a better answer

[hardy garnet]

I have an entity that I don't want to die that when damaged, it damages something else. I already have it working so its fine

[thorn isle]

lmao

oh lord have mercy

[hardy garnet]

Is that supposed to be a joke or genuine criticism

[mortal vortex]

wym