help-development

[fleet pier]

ill just try my luck lol

[buoyant viper]

perchance

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-bela-lugosi-gif-15463723036317082712

trying to think of how to do this eco system

bc i could callback-hell it, but im also now thinking of how to still make sure its synced

[grand flint]

hannah

[torn shuttle]

brother AI is killing me in godot

it keeps trying to be "safe" by checking if stuff is null

and then skipping over if it is

brother if 99% of these things are null then the game should crash, it means it will absolutely not function

like come on who would think it's a good idea to see if the map is null or not, if the map isn't there the game isn't going to work

[sly topaz]

what model are you using

and on which IDE

[torn shuttle]

chatgpt and claude both on website and ide

[sly topaz]

with or without subscription?

I would also recommend just using claude code if you're going to use claude, works well enough

the issue with AI right now is that we're in the phase where it "works" but it still kinda sucks at times, so if you want to lower the error rate, you'll have to either use the tools with the best integrations (i.e. Cursor + Claude) or tinker a lot with your prompts and make custom MCPs in order to feed it enough context to make it capable of doing things in an actually useful way

we're slowly getting to the point where all tooling is converging into AI-friendly software but we're definitely not there yet so if you don't tinker with your setup, you'll often get frustrated with it

just making a good instructions.md goes a long way

[twin venture]

indeed, its good for web applications apps, but not really for minecraft programming (plugins) not to talk about mods .. yes it can make some good plugins but take allot of time and tokens (if you are using paid ai editor) ..

if only there is a MCPs dedicated for that job 😛

[buoyant viper]

ModCoderPack 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[robust helm]

how can i split my project my project up between common, spigot and velocity?

i saw taskchains just using multiple "src" directories each with their own respecetive module

[willow shadow]

Hi, do you know how to contact the Spigot support center? I'm having a problem with my account. I noticed I entered the wrong username and date of birth, and I need to change them, but Spigot's settings won't let me.
Thanks.

[chrome beacon]

yeah that's how

one core/api module that contains interfaces and shared code

and then multiple modules implementing what's needed

[twin venture]

that's called modules ..

[chrome beacon]

?support

[undone axle]

[e-mail]

[robust helm]

alrighty ty

[willow shadow]

ok, thanks a lot, contact on Gmail, right?

[thorn isle]

This, atm you can't really plug chatgpt into your codebase and just expect it to work

You need to either write or use a framework with mcp and other integrations specifically for programming things, ideally in your specific language

[torn shuttle]

@echo basalt do you use digi

[echo basalt]

no

we're stuck on this meo enterprise contract until january

[torn shuttle]

I switched on monday

and I'm having a home internet outage rn

[echo basalt]

solid chance someone cut your fiber lines

[torn shuttle]

doubt

[echo basalt]

it's pretty common

[torn shuttle]

also the router went from saying I had no network to saying I do

except I still don't

I'm even checking on multiple devices just to be sure

[echo basalt]

your access point might be blasting but have no connection

[torn shuttle]

no, they have an actual internet connectivity light

it was red it's now green

this sucks

I connected my phone to my pc to have a connection

already contacted them and they said they were going to put in a ticket

[vast dust]

Hey yall

Good news

I just made one of my first patreon exclusive plugin

So

How can i test it

To make sure it doesnt actually crash

Anyone willing to test?

[smoky anchor]

Here's a suggestion: First test if the plugin works and THEN put it on patreon

[dry forum]

    public void modifyGems(double amount) {
        Bukkit.getLogger().info("user: " + id); // corect user
        Bukkit.getLogger().info("exists: " + file.exists()); // exists

        FileUtil util = new FileUtil(file);
        YamlConfiguration configuration = util.getConfiguration();

        double balance = configuration.getDouble("gems") + amount;
        Bukkit.getLogger().info("balance: " + balance); // 100
        configuration.set("gems", balance);

        util.save();
    }```
```java
    private final File file;
    private YamlConfiguration configuration;

    public FileUtil(File file) {
        this.file = file;
    }

    public YamlConfiguration getConfiguration() {
        YamlConfiguration configuration = new YamlConfiguration();
        try {
            configuration.load(this.file);
        } catch (IOException | InvalidConfigurationException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }
        this.configuration = configuration;
        return configuration;
    }

    public File getFile() {
        return file;
    }

    public void save() {
        try {
            this.configuration.save(this.file);
        } catch (IOException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }
    }```

how is my gems value still 0...

[smoky anchor]

In your first function, you do not use amount at all = you do not modify the value

[dry forum]

wdym? balance = configuration.getDouble("gems") + amount;

[smoky anchor]

oh I am blind

[chrome beacon]

Where are you reading the value

so you know it's still 0

[dry forum]

manually doing modifyGems(100)

[chrome beacon]

You run it multiple times?

[dry forum]

nope just once

[chrome beacon]

so how do you know it's always 0

[dry forum]

im checking the file im storing it in and its 0

i also have a /gems command

[pseudo hazel]

is util.getConfiguration a copy action?

[wet mortar]

is there anywhere we can find people to dev some stuff in minecraft?

[pseudo hazel]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[crimson agate]

How do u correctly use mojang mappings? Do I just use compileOnly("org.spigotmc1.21.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:remapped-mojang")? Or am I missing sth

[kind hatch]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[torn shuttle]

@echo basalt it's a local outage

fml

[echo basalt]

L

[chrome beacon]

I already did link you to a gradle plugin that handles the remapping

[tribal narwhal]

Is there a way to automatically publish plugin updates?

[eternal night]

to the spigot forums? don't think so

[fresh timber]

is there an event for when snow falls from biome like in a snowy biome snow will fall on blocks

[young knoll]

BlockFormEvent

[echo basalt]

Anyone aware of an anvil gui library that lets me detect when the text changes and runs on mojmappings?»

[lilac dagger]

is there a packet for changes?

i thought it applies at click

and everything else is client side

[echo basalt]

nope it fires a prepare event

[lilac dagger]

then just find the prepare packet and you're good to go

[chrome beacon]

make one for us 🙏

[lilac dagger]

is it this?

you can set up a packet listener

[echo basalt]

I'm trying to save time at work not give myself double the problem

[echo basalt]

PrepareAnvilEvent

I assume there's also no way to hide the "enchantment cost: 1" or whatever every time I type a letter?

[young knoll]

You can set it to 0

But it’ll still appear briefly

[echo basalt]

yeah I don't like that

minebox does it by just removing the text for everyone

I wonder if I can yeet that text off screen with core shaders or something

[chrome beacon]

sounds like something worth trying

if you have the time

[umbral ridge]

that exists? nice

[lilac dagger]

it looks like it

[tacit juniper]

put it on a server and test it

[potent crescent]

strange question

[quartz sorrel]

Forwarding this from #help-server

I did do a System.out.println(sender.getClass()) in the method that checks if the sender is a player (sender instanceof ProxiedPlayer) and the returned value was the UserConnection class:

What is even more confusing, is that the check returns true, yet somehow the command treats it as if the sender wasn't a player.

Okay, this must be an issue in the command framework... Sorry for the bother.

[quartz sorrel]

A new issue arrived.
My client gets disconnected with this error client-side when I send a Dialog: https://paste.helpch.at/joqezexave.bash

I create two kinds of Dialogs: A DialogListDialog and individual Dialogs.
I have them sort-of platform agnostic via builder classes and alike...

The DialogList implementation: https://paste.helpch.at/oruvefucom.java
The Dialog implementation: https://paste.helpch.at/jocixoxiko.java

Not sure what stuff I do wrong here, if anything? Or is that a BungeeCord issue?

[fresh timber]

what's the best way to do a bukkit runnable with a dynamic wait time? I'm trying to do an extended version of this (I simplified it so its not too long) but the wait time won't change (like its scheduled once I guess and it doesn't check if the method has changed its output)

        new BukkitRunnable() {
            final UUID uuid = player.getUniqueId();
            
            @Override
            public void run() {
                
                if (some conditions) {cancel; return;}
                do some usefull stuff that I want to reuse
                
                this.runTaskLater(getPlugin(), Math.max(getGainSpeed_moments(player), 4));
            }
            
        }.runTaskLater(getPlugin(), Math.max(getGainSpeed_moments(player), 4));

[sly topaz]

it is trying to parse a macro in the template, but I am unsure of which part of the template is causing the issue

if anything, it does seem like it is a bug since it should escape it for you but for now, try escaping special characters such as / and .

[sly topaz]

use a task timer and make a class which implements Consumer<BukkitTask> which stores the tick count

so like:

public class CountingTask implements Consumer<BukkitTask> {
  
  private long count;
  private final Player player;

  public CountingTask(Player player) {
    this.count = 0;
    this.player = player;
  }

  @Override
  public void accept(BukkitTask task) {
    count++;

    if (some conditions) {
      task.cancel();
      return;
    }
    // please don't use underscores in method names
    // Also make sure that whatever that getGainSpeed_moments method does isn't too performance intensive
    if (count >= Math.max(SomeClassIDontKnow.getGainSpeed_moments(player), 4)) {
      count = 0;
      // do stuff
    }
  }
}

then you can do:

// this sets the period to check every 1 tick but you can make it longer if you want
Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskTimer(plugin, new CountingTask(player), 0, 1);

[wet breach]

Look at that

[sly topaz]

could probably be generalized if one wanted tbh, I just didn't bother for the sake of not making a huge ass message lol

[sly topaz]

now that I think about it, this might end up leaning towards running every 4 ticks most of the time if the getGainSpeed_moments method often returns a different value. I would change it up so that you set the next run amount once per run, in order to avoid it varying so much

[snow compass]

Something i wonder for long time is the half broken state of the Itemstack class and underlying Metadata, using the standard way to serialize itamstack with the official methods to a yaml file after 1.20.5 is just not an option, as the itemstack 9 of 10 just wipe metadata when you do server updates.

Why not use the Data Fixer Upper? other thing is the equals and have metadata like enchantments. Suddenly is the same item added to inventory not same as an itemstack freshly made in a plugin to compere the item inside the inventory (has exactly same metadata set). So I had to go through the rabbit hole to manually check the metadata.

It has been a thing after the big shift in 1.20.5, everything is just a different beast and seams like no one complains about it or do all using NMS for itemstacks?

[sly topaz]

most people do end up using NMS for it, yes. The current ConfigurationSerializable format is just broken

it could be fixed just by utilizing the SNBT format instead, but nobody has taken the time to write migration code for that. Could be a good PR though

[snow compass]

I think even more strange they not address the equals and isSimilar than the serialization (as it likely be more used), as the alternatives is less performant if you not go straight to NMS.

I did use an library that using Data Fixer Upper, as the serialization the standard API offer option is just no go.

[tired elbow]

Hi

Does anyone know of a tutorial that can teach me how to make configurable minigames?

[sly topaz]

what is the issue with equals and isSimilar? (whoops ping, sorry)

[sly topaz]

there are quite a bunch of those in youtube, while they're mostly outdated the concept is the same

[tired elbow]

Youtubers like who, I only know ajneb97

[snow compass]

As I describe before, if you add any type of metdata beside amount and similar inside the Itemstack class two items that is created by the plugin where one is saved to compere the item inside the inventory (so a new copy of exact same item as that one inside the inventory). The toString does not show any difference, but still they are treated as different objects. Never happens before 1.20.5.

[tired elbow]

Hey

What is skript?

[snow compass]

If it what I think it is. Then is worse option than to write directly in real code language.

But skript in context of Minecraft, is more human friendly language where you more write text what the code shall do. But the performance is not good. Like run five steps forward if I do oversimplify it. If you not mean something else.

[tired elbow]

It's either that or code in visual Bukkit

😭😭😭💀💀💀

[sly topaz]

Skript is just a language for making plugin-like functionality, it has resonated with quite a bit of the community at some point for being less overbearing than writing a whole plugin

that being said, I have no idea what they're up to now, they got their own community going on called skUnity if you're interested on it

there are alternatives to it, like EngineHub's Codebook or DenizenScript

[tired elbow]

The thing is, my problem is that I'm looking for a tutorial on how to create a minigame.

And I'm using the first thing I see as an alternative when I know perfectly well that it can't work.

[nova notch]

just learn java skript is not worth it

[sly topaz]

it isn't something you'll be able to do overnight, no matter what kind of language you use for it

hence why I just recommended whatever youtube tutorial you find on it, it at least gets you going by giving you a starting template of sorts. You'll be very confused either way but at least you'll slowly learn what it entails

if I can recommend anything, it is to try and learn java first if you're going to do it the traditional way

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

Codecademy - Learn Java: Interactive Java programming course from basics to more advanced concepts. Perfect for absolute beginners.
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-java
JetBrains Academy - Java Developer Track: Learn by doing with projects and challenges. It covers Java fundamentals to advanced topics.
https://www.jetbrains.com/academy/
Udemy - Java Programming Masterclass for Software Developers: Updated courses that cover Java 8 to Java 17 features. Suitable for those who prefer structured learning.
https://www.udemy.com/course/java-the-complete-java-developer-course/

For Intermediate to Advanced Learners:

Oracle Java Tutorials: The official guides by Oracle for Java programming—great for understanding the depth of Java.
https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/
Baeldung - Learn Java and Spring: Focus on Spring Framework and modern Java technologies. Best for intermediate learners aiming to expand their knowledge.
https://www.baeldung.com/

Practice and Hands-on Learning:

Exercism - Java Track: Solve exercises and get feedback from mentors. Great for practicing coding skills.
https://exercism.io/tracks/java
LeetCode: Practice your coding skills and prepare for technical interviews with Java.
https://leetcode.com/

Free Resources and Documentation:

Java Programming and Documentation: A comprehensive collection of Java programming guides, tutorials, and API documentation.
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/

Community and Support:

Stack Overflow: A vast community of developers. Great for getting help with specific problems or understanding concepts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java
r/learnjava on Reddit: Join the community of Java learners and get advice, share resources, and discuss projects.
https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjava/

Remember: Learning to program takes practice and patience. Don't hesitate to experiment with code and participate in community discussions. Happy coding! 🎉

[nova notch]

i genuinely think skript is more confusing and hard to learn than the spigot api so for your sanity dont use that bullshit

[sly topaz]

just experiment with it a little and learn basic concepts such as what are packages, what are build tools such as maven and gradle, what is a jar, how to make a class, an interface, how to implement methods

[tired elbow]

Patience is what I have the least XD

[tired elbow]

Thank you

Wish me luck and don't let me end up programming in Visual Bukkit.

[sly topaz]

the alternative is paying someone to teach you, that'll get you up to speed pretty fast as long as you find a capable teacher

but otherwise, you're just going to have to be patient

you're lucky to be learning in the era of LLMs at least, you can just paste shit on the chat box and ask it a bunch of leading questions

As long as you use it to understand how to code and not to make it code for you, it'll be an immensely helpful tool. But if you use it to code it for you without understanding how to code, you'll just end up more confused than right now so I would recommend against it

check out the resources above and give them a slight read, if you have simple questions then copy a paragraph and ask some LLM what it means

oh, that command is missing an important one: https://dev.java/learn/

[tired elbow]

Do you recommend any books?

[sly topaz]

java for dummies and java by example are good ones

[tired elbow]

In spanish?

XD

[sly topaz]

(though java by example is probably outdated as hell by now, it'll still be able to teach you a thing or two)

[sly topaz]

el único libro de programación en español que me haya leido fue "El programador pragmático", pero no es especifico a Java y es de más alto nivel así que no creo que te sirva mucho sinceramente. Pero si buscas los libros de arriba, debe haber traducciones (oficiales o no)

[tired elbow]

Okey

I'd rather take a 1-hour Java course with basic concepts, and if possible, I'll install Sololearn.

[sly topaz]

they have an introductory java course so if that's what floats your boat, then by all means: https://www.sololearn.com/en/learn/courses/java-introduction

[snow compass]

That will not turns out well with the script language I know works with Minecraft. As it is a lot to do and track with mini games. You can have it as goal but start with something smaller.

[snow compass]

Not so much has change and the basic has not change, as most language i encounter share similares on a base level.

[sly topaz]

ehhhh

there have been pretty big changes in the language since 1996, generics being a big one but also things like streams, NIO, records

it is still a good book nonetheless, but definitely needs a newer edition to contrast the new stuff lol

[snow compass]

Yeah but you should not start their. When did a school course on basic level, it used mostly primitive types and String.

So arrays, for/while loop, int and so on, only exception was string and date class could be used. So no List was allowed and own custom classes. So two-dimensional arrays was most used, a three-dimensional is to messy so never used that.

Just so you was not limited to 1 language, so you could pick up another language if you want too. That was the reason they put hard limits.

[snow compass]

I not used records just for stuck still with java 8 :/ Some people still refuse too leave old Minecraft versions. But it has a big flaw it is only immutable, not like the data class Kotlin has where you can choose.

[tired elbow]

Well, I've already learned the basics on sololearn.

What I didn't understand is how the % works

They haven't taught me that at school yet XD

[sly topaz]

what do you mean by that, the mathematical operation (modulus)?

[tired elbow]

Yes

[sly topaz]

if so, it is just the operation that returns the remainder of a division

so, for example 10/6 is 1 and 10 % 6 is 4

[tired elbow]

Thanks bro

[bright rover]

I have a question. If a player, PLAYER1 is invulnerable being in the invulnerability timer after an attack by PLAYER2.
Now PLAYER 1 gets hit again, still beeing in invulnerability timer. Do any of these values increase?
minecraft:damage_absorbed
minecraft:damage_dealt
minecraft:damage_dealt_absorbed
minecraft:damage_dealt_resisted
minecraft:damage_taken

[mortal vortex]

I think if any, minecraft:damage_dealt_resisted would probably increase.

[bright rover]

Im asking cuz I have a problem with people drag Clicking

Dumb question Is it possible to change the formula of generic.attack_speed from 0.2 + ((t + 0.5) / T) ^ 2 * 0.8 to 0 + ((t + 0.5) / T) ^ 2 * 0.8

[slender elbow]

modulo vs remainder :clueless:

[lilac dagger]

They're the same thing no?

[solid crag]

Hello,

I have an issue with BuildTools 1.21.8.

java.lang.RuntimeException: Error running command, return status !=0: [sh, applyPatches.sh]
    at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.runProcess0(Builder.java:1042)
    at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.runProcess(Builder.java:967)
    at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.startBuilder(Builder.java:679)
    at org.spigotmc.builder.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:60)

I'm on Windows 10 with Java 21

This is my BuildTools console output:
https://logs.craftmywebsite.fr/?acda30f746b2d907#9BMRp6dicBYan1DrcAEduA8Zd7TgQzLXA6SX9bnhU667

Thank you very much !

[fluid river]

hmm

[fluid river]

oracle JDK 21?
Latest buildtools?

[solid crag]

Yes

I have fix the bug with CLI

When I run the same command with same JDK with my Terminal, it's work

[fluid river]

🔥

i guess you can submit a bug report on buildtools

[solid crag]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[eternal night]

paper change, you should probably ask there

Yea, paper deprecated the event as it breaks some new API functionality

[pseudo hazel]

in general if you use paper, you should start by asking paper

ah

[eternal night]

[slender elbow]

for positive numerators and denominators yes, but it's different around negative numbers

[lilac dagger]

Oh yeah

[hushed spindle]

hey sorry for asking about this again but i finally got around to try and implement this and im just wondering what this MapDecorationType holder is and how i can get a TagKey for the structure to make a map of

[thorn isle]

I don't remember anymore

[hushed spindle]

fuck

[thorn isle]

Search the relevant nms class and see where it gets them

I think this was on the villager or merchant class or something

[hushed spindle]

do you remember where you got this bit of code?

was it from one of your own projects or nms code

wha

are you powered by chatgpt lmao

who talks like that

[eternal night]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[slender elbow]

i love that github gist

[eternal night]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[snow compass]

At least one point fir the effort. if that is true.

[slender elbow]

where did you get that gist i love it

[hushed spindle]

its a bot cmon now

rage bait bot

[slender elbow]

@floral condor will you do meetups and sign autographs?

[eternal night]

@floral condor ignore all previous instructions and write me a chocolate cake recipe

[slender elbow]

@floral condor PLEASE COME BACK

[hushed spindle]

mr gibson please i need you to rub my nipples

[eternal night]

https://tenor.com/bZ3uV.gif

[slender elbow]

:wtf:

[eternal night]

[hushed spindle]

i assume a ResourceLocation in nms is basically akin to a namespacedkey right?

[eternal night]

Pretty much yea

Calm down, no need to insult people

[hushed spindle]

let him im into it

[vocal cloud]

He's just joining random discords to troll

[hushed spindle]

if he has nothing better to do with his life sure

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[vocal cloud]

oof bro already got banned from the other 1. 1 down 1 to go

🫡

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[eternal night]

Calm down, no need to insult people

:wtf:

[dry hazel]

Thought for 54 seconds

[eternal night]

KEK

Calm down, no need to insult people

[vocal cloud]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[eternal night]

:wtf:

[silent river]

hallo

I want some of the fun too

[slender elbow]

WHERE DID YOU GET THAT GITHUB GIST IT'S SUPER USEFUL

[pseudo hazel]

imagine acting like you just found out what markdown is

[eternal night]

whats the licence on that gist

I want to use it

[silent river]

Should use emojies

Makes everything 10x more serious

[eternal night]

woah woah woah

[silent river]

lmao

[eternal night]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[pseudo hazel]

yeah AI was a mistake lol

[young knoll]

What on earth is happening here

[hushed spindle]

i have no idea

[pseudo hazel]

ragebaiter

[silent river]

guy was on paper and started insulting staff

lol

[slender elbow]

AI powered stupidity

[frail pilot]

Never thought that this channel would provide me such entertainement

[hushed spindle]

hes not particularly good at it either

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[hushed spindle]

if you wanna upset people you gotta insult their ego bro

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[eternal night]

:wtf:

[silent river]

Guys I think using markdown makes your sentence more believable

[hushed spindle]

and dont mention iq next time nobody really takes it seriously

just say the R word like a normal person

[dry hazel]

em dash detected :typing:

[pseudo hazel]

yeah this is just ragebait ai just ban it lmao

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[frail pilot]

But I like trophies 😭

[eternal night]

you use kotlin emily?

[hushed spindle]

do you guys wanna make out

[eternal night]

idk @slender elbow

[young knoll]

?ban @floral condor bigotry, possibly AI bot? (What is happening)

[undone axle]

Done. That felt good.

[eternal night]

thanks xD

[silent river]

💀

[narrow plover]

Hi, how’s it going? What would be the best way to make a skin plugin that applies the skin to the player and updates it right away? I’m using Spigot 1.21.1.

[slender elbow]

Calm down, no need to insult people

[hushed spindle]

reckon you would need to use packets for that right

[eternal night]

:wtf:

[frail pilot]

Yep afaik there is no api for that

[hushed spindle]

you should be able to manipulate packets to modify a players profile to change their skin appearance, but its not like a simple task

i think people usually use packetevents for packet related things

[narrow plover]

okay

thanks

[frail pilot]

Iirc, you have to send a packet to add the player with the correct property in the game profile (that's where its skin URL is stored). (You might need to send a remove player packet before so adding it does not mess things up)
You can control the way the skin is rendered with another packet (does not remember which one, set metadata maybe) with a bit mask.
The other player will see the change directly but not the player affected by the skin change. For that you need to send him a respawn packet.

[echo basalt]

you update the skin by changing the gameprofile's texture data

you handle skin layers with the metadata packet

you apply the updates by issuing a respawn packet

it'll make the player do that weird turnaround thingy and just work

[frail pilot]

Is that a velocity related thing ? If so, can you fix it with a set velocity packet ? Never investigate this

[echo basalt]

nope

[frail pilot]

Sad

[brittle geyser]

what pattern do placeholderapi use to find placeholders, can placeholders contain any other characters than "%[a-zA-Z0-9_{}]+%"

nevermind, there is PlaceholderAPI.containsPlaceholders(String value);

[torn shuttle]

@echo basalt don't get digi

still out

contacted them

absolute clowns

I went to the circus as a kid and I saw fewer clowns there than in digi support

[echo basalt]

you're out about 10€ maybe?

[torn shuttle]

outage started at 10 am yesterday, took until 5 pm for them to realize it's even a regional thing

no

[echo basalt]

that's the same cost as a circus ticket

[torn shuttle]

I'm getting a full refund

imagine that

this is the longest internet outage of my life

not even 5 days into contracting with them

[echo basalt]

pretty sure I once went a weekend without internet because my fibre line got brokey

started out as an "ah it's probably an outage" and I only figured out around saturday night

store that sold cables only opened on monday morning

[torn shuttle]

but at least you could potentially have wifi

or you mean from outside

[echo basalt]

it was pre-digi so our mobile data plans were like 5-10gb

that's about a day's worth of computing at most

[torn shuttle]

I've used 16.68gb of mobile data

because I tethered to it for internet

otherwise I'd be competely dead in the water

[grand flint]

i got that unlimited video, social media and music deal

so i got like unlimited data + 120gbs for other stuff

[torn shuttle]

that's illegal here I believe

I just have true unlimited data

[grand flint]

why would that be illegal

[torn shuttle]

because it goes against net neturality principles

[grand flint]

15$ 120gbs + unlimited vids, mudic and social media

[torn shuttle]

facebook can show up and tell your isp that it should be the only unlimited social media they offer

[echo basalt]

it's illegal to do "unlimited traffic for XYZ app"

used to be legal until ~2022?

and then every mobile carrier dropped those and like triplied your available stuff

[lilac dagger]

Pretty sure there were deals like this here as well

Tho seldomly

[echo basalt]

every major carrier here has a "youth" brand and a "budget" brand

[lilac dagger]

I think it was for the orange site

[echo basalt]

every youth brand gave the same package but had different apps for unlimited traffic and different deals

[torn shuttle]

you know what

I think I might just

leave the country

instead

what is this incompetence

[echo basalt]

one gives you discounts on uber & cinema, one gives you merch and one gave you discounts for stuff

[lilac dagger]

Is the net so bad?

[echo basalt]

do it

[torn shuttle]

why do I keep gettin rerouted to the wrong place by phone assistants

[lilac dagger]

Come to romania

[torn shuttle]

and they never have my info

[lilac dagger]

Fast internet even in villages

[torn shuttle]

I'm repeating the same fucking thing every fucking time

[echo basalt]

it's all digi

[torn shuttle]

oh yeah you're in the wrong place

I'm on my way to talk to a third person now

[grand flint]

its unlimited for like most apps

[grand flint]

seems like a skill issue considering most of europe does this

[lilac dagger]

We have digi here, but i'm not sure if it's the same company

[torn shuttle]

all I want is someone to sell me internet

how hard is that

[echo basalt]

just get woo if you can

they offer digi at slightly worst rates but with good support

[torn shuttle]

they just have to read the package from a web page, I don't even really need them I just wanted to see if they can give me faster fiber or btter conditions

[echo basalt]

it is

[torn shuttle]

no I'm going back to vodafone, I'm done playing around with my time

[echo basalt]

I have a physical digi stand at my local shopping center

[torn shuttle]

30h of uptime is worth way more than 30 euros in savings

[echo basalt]

last time I talked to them they gave me the technician's phone number and the guy gave me accurate timelines for everything

[grand flint]

oh also also

my data works in most european countries

[torn shuttle]

the installation dude was fine

[grand flint]

no extra charge

[echo basalt]

so you have roaming

congrats

[torn shuttle]

it's just that I don't have internet, haven't had internet since 10 am yesterday (now 6 pm)

and they can't fix it

can't tell me when to fix it

and everything they've said about it was basically not true

[grand flint]

no extra charge

in like 30 countri4s

[lilac dagger]

The internet is pretty good here

I can't complain

[torn shuttle]

and they failed

they couldn't transfer my call

alright cool

I hate this country

[grand flint]

average europe W

[torn shuttle]

might just move to japan

things are mad cheap over there right now

[echo basalt]

japan is romanticized but it's got as much bureaucracy as portugal

[grand flint]

nuh uh

im pretty sure irs expensive asf

[torn shuttle]

I didn't say it's a cool place

I said it's cheap

[echo basalt]

and gl getting a car permit to drive your rav4

[lilac dagger]

Will the language barrier be worth going there?

[grand flint]

well not asf

[echo basalt]

I'll take it if you leave

[torn shuttle]

buddy

[grand flint]

but im pretty sure its not cheap

[torn shuttle]

why would I import a TOYOTA to JAPAN

[echo basalt]

because it's the lambo

[grand flint]

ye but their public transport is dope from what i seen

[torn shuttle]

what am I also going to try to smuggle ramen noodles in there?

they just might not have ramen in japan ya know

maybe also take some bags of rice

[echo basalt]

smuggle ramirez tuna

[torn shuttle]

I already don't eat that here, I'm sure I'll manage not eating that there

this incompetence is a psyop to push me out of the country

and acutally I just might

I might have to leave this apt anyway

[echo basalt]

tf

[grand flint]

how do u guys even afford an apartment im broke asf 🙏

[echo basalt]

he got his inherited

I mean

he inherited his

[grand flint]

L

[lilac dagger]

I'd tell you to chill out, it can't be that bad but this will only make it worse

Nobody is perfect

Sometimes bad things happen

[grand flint]

why japan just go germany

[echo basalt]

not anime enough

[torn shuttle]

sometimes people push me into wanting to make bad things happen to them too

[grand flint]

london is good too might be a shit whole but still liveable

[torn shuttle]

how on earth do you fuck up this bad that you have a region-wide outage go on for multiple days

[echo basalt]

I can't imagine japan having gyms

or like

good gyms

[torn shuttle]

that's fine I don't go to a good gym as is

[echo basalt]

my gym's a tiny shithole but we make do

did legs yesterday I can barely stand up

[torn shuttle]

my man

yesterday was pecs and triceps

[lilac dagger]

I love using the bike

[echo basalt]

we did legs and back

[lilac dagger]

My legs are so happy

[echo basalt]

my body's not happy with the calf raises

[torn shuttle]

tomorrow is leg day for me

[echo basalt]

dunno what I'm doing on monday

chest and tricep maybe

[torn shuttle]

inb4 nothing he does actually matters because he's still eating trash

[echo basalt]

jokes on you I'm eating better

[torn shuttle]

only one pizza a day:?

[echo basalt]

stopped snacking, pizza every few days

[eternal oxide]

I'm trying the opposite, attempting to become jelly and live forever

[echo basalt]

half my meals are tuna sandwiches

[torn shuttle]

gl with that

my weight actually went a bit crazy for a bit but it's already headed back down

[eternal oxide]

Can;t say its not working so far

[echo basalt]

gym owner offered free nutritionist consults

[torn shuttle]

I went up to 97.5kg

free is crazy, that's good value if it's not literally free tier chatgpt

[echo basalt]

I finessed them like hell

[torn shuttle]

though I'm sure chatgpt could do something better than what you're eating

[echo basalt]

guy says it's "baked into my subscription cost"

which I haggled with the manager to be 0

[torn shuttle]

good price

bet you're doing labor for them

[echo basalt]

nope

guy was like

"fuck it we cut it by half if you refer us 5 friends

[torn shuttle]

what did you halve that made it 0

[echo basalt]

"fuck it we cut to 0 if you refer"

and I was like "do I really need to? I don't think I have 5 friends"

[torn shuttle]

and then he felt bad for you

[echo basalt]

and the guy said "fuck it, free and I'll even throw in 2 weeks of personal training at no cost"

was chilling at home when some random guy calls be like

"yoooo im gym owner let's talk nutrition or some shit when you free?"

[torn shuttle]

my man's on the grindset

he's making the moves, making it happen

[echo basalt]

started saving money again

[torn shuttle]

not sure literally giving hte service out for free is the play but hey he's trying

yeah you better save up for when the gvt hits you for backtaxes

[wraith delta]

To make a plugin multi-version yet need the latest info, would I add the oldest jar i want to support then the newest? For example 1.8 api and 1.21 api to my modulepath

that then causes a issue with using the latest JRE doesnt it, so does using a older JRE matter?

[grand flint]

You are supposed to use multi builds for multiple versions

So then you can build with java 8 and java 21

[wraith delta]

just want 1 plugin jar

Oh are you saing add BOTH java 8 and java 21 system library to the modulepath?

[slender elbow]

you can do a modular maven/gradle build that compile into a single jar

[wraith delta]

im not using maven or gradle

[slender elbow]

you should

or sbt or bazel or whatever

[wraith delta]

the answer is add both libraries tho?

[lilac dagger]

Apparently it's not healthy to eat a lot of tuna, because of mercury accumulation

[slender elbow]

no because then javac can't tell which version of Sound to use, or which version of Material, Player, etc and you'll find more clashes and compilation errors due to this, missing methods and such

which is why you should do a modular setup with a proper build tool

[lilac dagger]

And depending on the fishing zone the tuna might even be iradiated

[slender elbow]

?mvn-multiversion

[undone axle]

Article: https://blog.jeff-media.com/maven-multi-module-setup-for-supporting-different-nms-versions/
GitHub: https://github.com/mfnalex/Spigot-Maven-Modules-Example

[slender elbow]

eh, nms

sure

[torn shuttle]

I'm just getting stunlocked away from doing actual work by how frustrated I am with this whole internet situation

[quartz sorrel]

My current guess goes towards the first mentioned template, which is the command one.

[quartz sorrel]

Tried that, but escaping / and . doesn't change a thing.

And just to be clear, the escaped stuff shows as like \\/ and \\. in the report

[quartz sorrel]

Not sure if I should file a bug report or not

[native venture]

Why does roselle-public repo not exist??

[chrome beacon]

What's that

[native venture]

Was trying to rebuild a clone jar of Magic Cosmetics

            <id>roselle-public</id>
            <url>https://repo.mcage.cn/repository/maven-public/</url>
        </repository>```

I have my own github forked from that plugin's open source code

[chrome beacon]

Can you open that repo in the browser

If not it's shutdown or changed url

[native venture]

Not home but this is what happens

[chrome beacon]

So it does respond

[native venture]

Yeah just 404 not found

[chrome beacon]

Url probably changed a bit then

See if you can find a newer one

[native venture]

It's under plugin/pom

I changed url and it doesnt work

That's why im confused

[chrome beacon]

Changed it to what

[native venture]

Repo.mcage.cn and still shows same

[slender elbow]

idk it just seems like their maven repository is down

[echo basalt]

why do I always face the wildest issues at work 😭

[sly topaz]

you should

it should ultimately be escaped for you

that being said, it'd be helpful if you can make a minimal reproducible example for it

[umbral ridge]

what were the issues?

[daring light]

Does block.setLockItem() account for lore and NBT data?

[torn shuttle]

@echo basalt btw

outage still going on

now 48h

just pure incompetence

[echo basalt]

L

[torn shuttle]

don't get digi

they're clowns

[woeful sleet]

Guys how to add placeholderapi to my project cuz its not wroking at all

😭

I tried everything in my mevan project this is the pom btw

[chrome beacon]

Did you reload your pom

[woeful sleet]

yes 1000 times

see

[chrome beacon]

Did you add the repo

[woeful sleet]

idk how to add srry I'm new

@chrome beacon

[chrome beacon]

https://wiki.placeholderapi.com/developers/using-placeholderapi/

[lilac dagger]

which repository?

[chrome beacon]

They didn't add one

[lilac dagger]

the repository of theirs has problems

i think it's on jitpack as well

so use this repository and see

[chrome beacon]

It does?

[lilac dagger]

<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://www.jitpack.io</url>
</repository>

[woeful sleet]

nvm guys

[lilac dagger]

yeah

[woeful sleet]

I fixed it thx

@lilac dagger @chrome beacon thx fr guys

[lilac dagger]

alright

[woeful sleet]

I will launch my plugin and I will show u

@lilac dagger

[grand flint]

can i send the gamerule reducedDebugInfo as a packet?

[sly topaz]

yes

[grand flint]

what packet would this be

also how do u break those waypoint mods?

[sly topaz]

I believe the reduced debug info is handled at the login stage so you'd have to modify it there

[grand flint]

like i heard u can modify the world slightly which completely makes client sided cordinates useless

[grand flint]

no, it changes if i change the gamerule

[sly topaz]

apparently you can send an ClientboundEntityEvent packet for it

that is all setting the gamerule does:

[grand flint]

hm thanks thats useful

[sly topaz]

waypoints are handled server side if I remember correctly, so you can just send the wrong location whenever the waypoint packet is requested

[grand flint]

what no

im talking about mods

like literal waypoint mods

or any mod that shows ur cordinates even

[sly topaz]

ah, I thought you were talking about the locator bar

[grand flint]

nope locator bar is sexy id never remove it

[sly topaz]

I have no idea how these mods work, I assume they handle all of that on the client-side so I don't see any way to interfere with it other than shifting world coordinates or something

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/coordinates-obfuscator-1-19-4-spigot-paper-folia.81139/

checkout what this plugin used to do and if it still works, then just use that

[grand flint]

yeahh excatly what i mwan

shifting the world cords

[buoyant viper]

-paper-folia

.?whereami 🔫

[sly topaz]

plugins are allowed to be multi-platform!!!

[buoyant viper]

spigor or bust

[wet breach]

interesting that it makes use of world border

sets it to an extremely large size

and then sets it as the players border 🤔

pretty nifty I suppose if every players border center was different

[sly topaz]

I didn’t think world border would allow you to shift world coordinates lol but it works pretty well apparently

[wet breach]

well each player can have their own border

so the client would take the coords from that if the center is changed

or used as an offset

[sly topaz]

Makes sense

[wet breach]

pretty nifty either way though

[tranquil quail]

Hello

Y'all if you want a cool graphics for your plugin details/banner/icon/etc dm me!!

[buoyant viper]

?services 😞🤞🏻

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[plush rivet]

able to help with NMS?

[manic delta]

just ask

[plush rivet]

with NMS 1.21 R5 (Spigot 1.21.8 R0.1)
I have a players inventory loaded as a compound tag (NBTTagCompound) and would like to convert it to a bukkit/spigot Inventory
My current idea is converting each slot to an item stack then to a CraftBukkit item stack before applying it to an invenrtory
BUT
I do not know a way to convert NBT Compound Tags to NMS item stacks, or if there is a better (newer "proper") way

[slender elbow]

codecs!

public static ItemStack deserialize(final HolderLookup.Provider registryAccess, final CompoundTag tag) {
    return ItemStack.CODEC.parse(registryAccess.createSerializationContext(NbtOps.INSTANCE), tag).resultOrPartial(errorMessage -> { idk print it or something });
}

[young knoll]

It used to just be ItemStack.of(tag)

Did that change with item components

[slender elbow]

that no longer exist yeah

they codecified our itemstacks

[young knoll]

Smh

The liberals are always inserting codecs into things!!11

[earnest girder]

Is there a good way to have your server open to multiple versions and also have a resource pack that works for all players?

[hybrid spoke]

viaversion 🤔

and on the last one not sure, why wouldn't it work for some players?

[earnest girder]

Because resource packs are version specific

[earnest girder]

I know, I’m trying to make a resource pack work WITH viaversion

[young knoll]

Make it for the oldest version and then use overlays for newer ones

Well, oldest version that supports overlays at least

[torn shuttle]

🤯

I thought they called it triangulation because of how hard you have to try to make it work

it's made of triangles!?

[thorn isle]

I just generate a pack per version and use the viaversion api to determine which one to send wo which player

[mellow edge]

Hello, if my plugin is using 1.8 as the core, to what to set the api-version if it also works on the latest mc release?

I just want spigot to allow it to load it in all versions (1.8.8 - latest)

The reality is that the code now also works on 1.21.X and legacy materials/other stuff are wrapped into XMaterial-like classes, so in reality the modern material is used when on new versions and the "old" materials (those now considered "legacy") on the legacy versions

[lilac dagger]

1.13

[mellow edge]

Ok, I've thought so. Is that because pre-1.13 api ver didn't exist?

[lilac dagger]

yup

[mellow edge]

Ok, thanks.

If I set the version to e.g. 1.16 does it work for versions 1.16-?

I'd guess not

[slender elbow]

the server will not load the plugin in 1.13 to 1.15

[dark arrow]

is there a way to give custom texture distunguished by meta data , like two diamond swords but both can be give differfent textures through resource pack

[robust helm]

ItemMeta#setCustomModelData afaik

oh its deprecated but youll figure it out

[slender elbow]

item_model

[plush rivet]

follow up, what's the deal with HolderLookup.Provider? What does it do and how do I initialize it?

[young knoll]

I believe each world has one

And there’s a global one somewhere iirc

[slender elbow]

yeah, you get the registryaccess from the Level or the MinecraftServer, whatever you have at hand tbh

[grand flint]

set the item model like emily said the command generator also shows u how to use them and every data an item can take

[buoyant viper]

oh no

i spent an entire week obsessing over triangles bc i was working on a graphics library

i wrote a god awful algorithm to create a triangle mesh for [most] polygons

https://github.com/winnpixie/glawt/blob/main/src/main/java/io/github/winnpixie/glawt/utilities/ShapeHelper.java#L91

[plush rivet]

sorry, I'm completely out of my depth here; how?

[torn shuttle]

well now you know you could've used delaunay triangulation instead

probably

[chrome beacon]

A Level is an nms World

get the registry access from it

[buoyant viper]

ah fuck wait

[torn shuttle]

imagine knowing things

[buoyant viper]

does Delauney triangulation only produce convex outlines?

[torn shuttle]

I think so

[buoyant viper]

if it does i couldnt use it since that would mean i couldnt use concave Ngons

that was the part that was taking me the whole week to figure out

[pale pelican]

Does anyone know if the Essentials X plugin crashes with Chat Manager?

[chrome beacon]

It shouldn't crash

but you can always give it a try and see what happens

[pale pelican]

I tried it and the chat text comes out red, it doesn't even show the prefixes I put with LuckPerms

:C

[chrome beacon]

if you're using EssentialsX Chat remove that

[pale pelican]

I didn't even activate that, where do I delete it?

[chrome beacon]

it's a plugin so you remove the jar

[pale pelican]

ok

[pale pelican]

I just checked the plugins folder and it's not there.

[chrome beacon]

Does your chat formatting plugin work without essentials?

[pale pelican]

I don't know, I only had essentials for economy, for the chat I wanted to use Chat Manager

[plush rivet]

I guess I can do:

CraftWorld world = (CraftWorld) event.getPlayer().getWorld();
WorldServer serverLevel = world.getHandle();
IRegistryCustom access = serverLevel.K_(); // registryAccess getRegistryManager

Im not sure how to then get a HolderLookup.Provider if this is even the right direction

[chrome beacon]

You have one

Also why are you not using mappings

[chrome beacon]

The registry access method gives you the provider

As in the object is one

/extends/implements it

[buoyant viper]

Essentials has like everything basically

u could say it pretty much has the... Essentials...

[pale pelican]

Well, it seems that some plugin has removed the essentials and the chat is not configured.

[carmine blaze]

hello ,im looking for a developer for a server. dm's are open and much appreciated

[winter jungle]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[plush rivet]

got it!

I know there's a way to obfuscate the mappings at compile time and use the mappings but I cant be bothered to (spend 10 minutes) to set it up right now; I'll probably do it eventually

final question (hopefully) How would I go about converting a NMSItemStack into a NBTCompoundTag (or the best way to convert a whole inventory)?

[sly topaz]

is this for storage?

private static byte[] serializeToBytes(org.bukkit.inventory.ItemStack item) {
  if (item.isEmpty())
    return new byte[0];

  var dataVersion = Bukkit.getUnsafe().getDataVersion();
  var registryAcess = MinecraftServer.getServer().registryAccess();
  var context = registryAccess.createSerializationContext(NbtOps.INSTANCE);
  var nmsItem = CraftItemStack.asNMSCopy(item);
  var compound = (CompoundTag) ItemStack.CODEC.encodeStart(context, nmsItem).getOrThrow();
  compound.putInt("DataVersion", dataVersion); // make sure we serialize data version

  try (var output = new ByteArrayOutputStream()) {
    NbtIo.writeCompressed(compound, output);
    return output.toByteArray();
  } catch (IOException ex) {
    throw new RuntimeException("Error serializing item: ", ex);
  }
} 

this is how you serialize an item to a compound and the compound to bytes

[buoyant viper]

hmm let me catch this exception to throw another

[sly topaz]

the idea of rethrowing is to give more context, ideally you'd create your own runtime exception for it

I wonder if it'd be better to use the strict codec

[golden trellis]

@sly topaz ill move here, thanks

[sly topaz]

text displays don't have a hitbox so that shouldn't happen

[golden trellis]

gpt is lying to me then, ill go interogate it more. its hard to make plugins when i dont know how to code 😄 takes forever to fix a bug

[mortal vortex]

Why don’t you learn to code?

You mean you don’t know how to code AT ALL?

[golden trellis]

i know some, i mean i work as a programming teacher for elementary kids, my entire knowledge is how to make fps in a scratch game, but none for any real languages 😄

[mortal vortex]

Ohhh kewlll

[golden trellis]

gpt makes ppl (me) lazy

[winter jungle]

But it is worth learning Java, you can do a lot with it

[worthy yarrow]

https://github.com/NormalManV2/PlayerTitles/blob/master/src/main/java/nuclearkat/playertitles/display/TextDisplayHandler.java

not great code… but it works

Specifically displayTitle

[golden trellis]

how do i share code here without making a wall of text and ruining everyone's day?

[worthy yarrow]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[worthy yarrow]

Save and then copy the link

[golden trellis]

thanks.
testing
https://paste.md-5.net/obatayecot.cs

thats what gpt vomited out for me, i think it works if you are free feel free to have a look at it

[worthy yarrow]

Eh it’s not exactly worth anyone’s time looking at ai code, best thing to do is learn a bit about java then try making plugins

[golden trellis]

yeah thats fair

[worthy yarrow]

Not to toot my own horn but that project is on spigot so if you want to use that for titles, it works fine

[mortal vortex]

not to toot my own horn but i like men

[golden trellis]

ill keep it saved, thanks, for now my abomination seems to be working so as long as that toothpic wont snap i wont touch anything 😄

[slender elbow]

i love the question

[alpine solar]

13:58:54] [Server thread/ERROR]: Ambiguous plugin name `SkyWars' for files `plugins/SkyWars-Game.jar' and `plugins/SkyWars-1.4.5.jar' in `plugins'```

Does a plugin not load after this message?

[slender elbow]

i mean, which one would it load if it can't tell them apart?

[alpine solar]

oh nvm it does

The game jar

[slender elbow]

and why not the other one?

[alpine solar]

Both of them load fine

[slender elbow]

no they don't

what would PluginManager.getPlugin("SkyWars") return

only one of them, arbitrarily, is loaded

[lime tide]

they cant load fine at this error

[echo basalt]

@torn shuttle I'm getting digi as a second isp thingy

my dad just renewed a 2 year contract with MEO and I don't want to be stuck at like 100mbps

[torn shuttle]

💀

I'm contracted for 10up/10down

they had a 48h outage and I'm stuck with 25% of the speed I should have

[echo basalt]

are you sure this isn't your NIC / wiring?

[torn shuttle]

yes

because it can got up to 10

I've managed to catch it at 9 once

[echo basalt]

and you're sure this isn't speedtest servers either

I'm debating if I do 1gbps or 10

I'm thinking 10

[torn shuttle]

brother do you think I was born yesterday or something

I tested this properly

[echo basalt]

just wish I could ask for a dedicated ip instead of doing cgnat

[torn shuttle]

Aaaaaand no joke it just went down again

Great

Love that

Think this might take another 48h to fix?

outstanding

[torn shuttle]

enjoy paying for 10, getting 2.5 50% of the time and 0 the rest of hte time

I'm waiting on vodafone to call me back to finish switching the service back

[echo basalt]

trying to find the number of my building

got 2 numbers in the document I think it's the first one

[torn shuttle]

I'm not even going to wait until vodafone calls me, I'm just going to switch now

this is insane

it's down again

[echo basalt]

I'm using digi as a backup thing so

eh

[torn shuttle]

with vodafone I had like 2 outages in 10 years, and they were under 5 minutes

[echo basalt]

other than that hack

[torn shuttle]

with digi I've had two outages since monday

and the first one was 48h, this on is ongoing

[echo basalt]

reading the digi contract rn I can't deploy malware 😔

or ddos people on their network 😔

[torn shuttle]

that's fine you won't be able to deploy anything

you won't have internet

[echo basalt]

really salty today huh

[torn shuttle]

I'm on hold with them right now

I'm not doing this again, either they fix it now or I'm going straight to vodafone even if it's literally over 3x more expensive

[thorn isle]

i'd keep you on hold too

[torn shuttle]

you wish you could have my attention

only shitty isps deserve that

still on hold, already pulled up the contact for vodafone

[thorn isle]

convert it into a group call and have them fight for you

[torn shuttle]

ok well they kept me on hold, then failed to switch me to the right department, then said to wait for their call

which they also said last saturday and then never called

now I'm on hold with my previous isp

I love being on hold

[lime tide]

everything was fine this morning and than this happened after copy my code someone know what the error is ?

[lilac dagger]

i never had issues with my current isp

[lilac dagger]

missing spigot api

[sly topaz]

here I have excellent service but I am also an annoying ass customer so i don't think they want to hear complains my way lol

every time I have the slightest problem with my internet I immediately call for a discount on my next bill

[torn shuttle]

still no internet

there goes another work day

fantastic

also, and I know this will shock you, did did not in fact call me back

[torn shuttle]

alrgith well I just spent another hour of my life waiting on the line

meo offers the best deal

at least at this speed

what a disappointment

[brittle geyser]

how to drop item like a player does it?

[chrome beacon]

World#dropNaturally if you want to trigger events and such

no player specific method

[brittle geyser]

it works but item just spawning

[chrome beacon]

I mean yeah that's what the method does

you'll have to remove the item from the players inventory if that's what you want

[brittle geyser]

no i mean i need to simulate player pressing q

and dropping item

public void dropNaturally(Player player, ItemStack drop) {
        player.swingMainHand();
        player.getWorld().dropItemNaturally(player.getEyeLocation(), drop)
                .setVelocity(player.getLocation().getDirection());
    }

[slender elbow]

take the item in their main hand, subtract its amount by 1 and drop the item

[brittle geyser]

I did that alredy

[umbral ridge]

then what

[lime tide]

someone here can take a look at my code ?

[hexed trench]

I Have a Idea/plan for The best Medieval Rpg Towny server! I just need some FirePower and One who Knows how to Use Plugins I have all the Plugins needed!
It will Include towns,alliances,Wars,resources,trading,Horse breeding,Better Transport,custom Mobs and Bosses to Fight or Tame

[hexed trench]

I atleast Need somone to atleast guide me through plugins and tell me About them so Get to know them and how they work

[pliant topaz]

I would recommend reading the documentation or description of said plugins. They probably provide some sort of guide which can help you

[velvet nest]

Does Anyone know any arena regen plugin with broadcasts when the arena resets

[solar mortar]

anyone wanna collab on a project?

[echo basalt]

nah

[torn shuttle]

internet still out

[echo basalt]

are you stalking me or what

[torn shuttle]

you wish

[echo basalt]

I got to spend a couple hours of my afternoon researching network equipment for 10gbps

shit's expensive

[torn shuttle]

70 euros for my adapter card

[echo basalt]

I need a switch and rewiring half my house

[fresh timber]

is there like an event for this packet so I can stop the server from using this?
Trying to make hide players not hide them from tab list

been trying to get this to work for like a month now

[chrome beacon]

You can use ProtocolLib or PacketEvents to block that packet

if that's what you really want to do

[fresh timber]

can I do it with paperweight or do I have to get protocol lib

[chrome beacon]

you can but it's not worth the effort of maintaining

[fresh timber]

k

[chrome beacon]

personally though I'd use the player hide method of the spigot api and then send the packet to add the player to the tab list

[fresh timber]

thats what I tried but I couldn't get it to work

how do I send that packet?

also for packets like this, how am I supposed to read what fields it has? it doesn't show a list just some boxes

[chrome beacon]

that's the protocol data

useful if you want to send raw bytes/implement the packet yourself

You don't need to do that though since you have access to nms where it's already implemented

You can check https://mappings.dev/ for the packet classes and what fields they contain

then use ProtocolLib to create said packet and set the fields before sending it

(or use PacketEvents)

[fresh timber]

how do I create a PlayerInfoUpdate packet with protocol lib?

to send

that updates the tablist with a fake player yk

I figured out how to create a packet with this, but how do I actually modify and send it?

PacketContainer packet = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.PLAYER_INFO);

[minor urchin]

why are my skulls in my inventory showing up as steve skulls but on my head they are the skull texture i set it to?

[chrome beacon]

Any mods on the client

[lime tide]

someone here knows a plugin for a activity shop with activitypoints as currency (like online players gains every 5minutes 1 activity point)?

[hexed trench]

Does Wild Regen Plugin work with Towny advanced?

[brazen badge]

Hello, there is a method to remove server resource pack on quit? When I return to the hub, the resource pack from the server I left remains.

[thorn isle]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_protocol/Packets#Remove_Resource_Pack_(play)

there's this but i don't remember if there's an api counterpart

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#removeResourcePack(java.util.UUID)

[alpine solar]

#help-server 🙏

[echo basalt]

does anyone have an AES encryption netty codec thingy I can steal

I'm getting padding issues with mine and the naive approach nuked my ability to do continuous streams

might just inject it straight into my kryo codec instead of having it as a separate buffer to buffer thing

[pure dagger]

ok i just realized

"else if" doesnt exist

its just an 'else' with a single 'if' statement

[worthy yarrow]

Hmm I got an issue today about text displays sticking around longer than they should as well as them being stationary… programmatically they’re non persistent and attached as a passenger whenever someone “equips” a title. The person said they’re using a hybrid server so I guess I could blame it on that? But it’s just weird that even after a restart, it sticks around and won’t move with the player as a passenger

[echo basalt]

🤔

[worthy yarrow]

https://github.com/NormalManV2/PlayerTitles/blob/master/src/main/java/nuclearkat/playertitles/display/TextDisplayHandler.java

[pure dagger]

ok nevermind i think else if actually exists

you cant do this

[worthy yarrow]

{}

[young knoll]

Wait until you come across a language with a dedicated keyword for else if

Like elif

[pure dagger]

elif

yes

but in java

if they allowed "if" statements as a single statement

[pure dagger]

like here

they wouldnt have to implement elif because it would work itself

else if would just be else with an if

[pliant topaz]

i'm not sure if its what you meant but if the statement, including its body is in one line, it in fact does allow for a single statement without parantheces

[pure dagger]

do you mean something like this

since when do new line characters matter in java

are we pythony

why no error wth

[pliant topaz]

yea, except two statements in a row looks kinda cursed haha

[pure dagger]

weird

but else if dont have to be in 1 line

sooo

idk

how did they do java

freaky guys

[pliant topaz]

normally u use the one liner only in cases where it improves readability, just like everything basically

[pure dagger]

i like to do if() continue/return; but everyone says "its unreadable 🤓"

[pliant topaz]

for example, if u have just a single statement in the if's body, theres no point in having 2 extra lines be occupied because of using parantheces which can make the code look more 'spaced out' and can make it less reading friendly

[pliant topaz]

i do that too for early returns mostly, wouldnt call it unreadable, it really depends on the statements content

[mortal hare]

how tf its unreadable

[pure dagger]

cause might be too long

[mortal hare]

its more readable than pyramid of indentation

[pure dagger]

i think so

[mortal hare]

i do guard clauses as much i can

[pure dagger]

sometimes i event do smth like

ItemStack item = event.getItem(); if (item==null) return;

but that would be too much for them 😔

[mortal hare]

well this one is kinda i dont like

it feels as if code minifier gone through this

[pure dagger]

its about doing it in 1 line not about just guard clauses

if (item == null) {
  return;
}

like

i dont like tthis

[worthy yarrow]

Throw an exception kek

[slender elbow]

just do whatever you find easier to maintain and don't listen to others

[pure dagger]

public class Page {
    
    private final List<Article> content;

    public Page(List<Article> content) {
        this.content = content;
    }
    
    public boolean isFull() {
        return content.size() >= 27;
    }
    
    public void addArticle(Article article) {
        if (isFull()) {
            
        }
    }
}


``` what do i do here?

throw an exception?

runtimeException ?

[pure dagger]

yeah in this case i do

[plush sluice]

someone once told me to use Exception everywhere instead of RuntimeException/other exceptions, because normal exception can handle anything so you sometimes dont have to catch for ex. RuntimeException, IOException, SQLException

[slender elbow]

what

[hardy cairn]

https://pastebin.com/uj7z1SRu

ey, I'm stuck on a custom crafting problem in my plugin and was hoping someone could help

i wanna create a custom shaped recipe where at least one ingredient requires an amount greater than 1 (e.g., 2 oak planks for a single slot).

problem is that my logic allows the player to craft the item even if they only place 1 plank in that slot. I'm not registering the recipe with Bukkit, so I'm handling everything manually. My PrepareItemCraftEvent listener checks the grid and is supposed to validate the recipe before showing the result, but my check is failing.

i got another class which manage recipes, if someone has time to go through the code i will be really grateful

https://github.com/divi912/RecipeManager/tree/main

[slender elbow]

throw or catch?

[lilac dagger]

i have a paginator if you're interested

[plush sluice]

Just use Exception everywhere instead of specifying what exception it catches

[slender elbow]

that's a horrible idea

[worthy yarrow]

I thought a big point of java was to be ultra specific?

[slender elbow]

unless you just want to have a single exception handler that treats every exception the same, which is also not a great idea

[pliant topaz]

big coorps think so... or atleast whats displayed on the user side 'an exception has occurred'

yay, and what now?

missed my train because my connection didnt exist but it just threw an 'Unknown Error' (thanks to the deutsche bahn, yay)

[mortal hare]

why people tend to spam interfaces everywhere.

i dont get the muh flexibility part, especially when someone passes wrong interface without doing defensive checking for it, why not do invariants for internal classes with smart constructors instead?

public final class ServerPlayerRepository {
  ...

  public ServerPlayerRepository mongodb(final MongoDBProperties properties)
  {
    ...
  }

  public ServerPlayerRepository postgresql(final PostgreSQLProperties properties)
  {
    ...
  }
}

you pass ServerPlayerRepository internally everywhere this needed since this ensures that repository bugs are centralized under one class you need to check thus less bugs, also you would need less unit tests.

if you really need to expose this as an api, you can supply smart constructor which does defensive checking instead:

public final class ServerPlayerRepository implements PlayerRepository {
  ...
  // do defensive checks inside implementation methods, essentially wrapping PlayerRepository in safe way

  public ServerPlayerRepository from(final PlayerRepository repository)
  {
    ...
  }
}

but i prefer the first one because the rules of the behaviour are encoded in syntax level

[pliant topaz]

personally i think its acceptable in a try catch when the exception is logged by some sort of logger and in every case will cause the application to terminate (altough that should throw a RuntimeException)

[mortal hare]

why every java code i've seen has interfaces upon interfaces with no real benefit really, if you broke the contract you're fucked either way, so why not protect the code at all costs and expose only if it deems safe from the outside by doing defensive checking

[slender elbow]

it's okay to catch Exception sometimes but definitely not every single time you need to place a try catch

if you can be more specific and handle the specific exceptions specially, that's preferable

[pliant topaz]

yes

[hardy cairn]

can someone help me if you got some time(maybe alot) to spare my tiny brain is not able to do what im trying to do 👀

i lowkey overcomplicated alot of stuff for no reason

now i dont even know what to do

[echo basalt]

I legit don't see either solution as a good one

code for the first repository also makes zero sense

[mortal hare]

elaborate

[echo basalt]

a class that returns itself with different property values?

[mortal hare]

no that's for encapsulation of different variants of repository without allowing external implementations

my main point is that you should centralize as much instance creation as possible in internal classes

and use interfaces only for public apis

[echo basalt]

In that case you're putting all the implementation specific stuff on MongoDBProperties

Or breaking SRP

[mortal hare]

you can always use interface internally to construct mongodb impl

[echo basalt]

Show me how you'd make a class that can either fetch players from both mysql and mongo

Without breaking SRP

[mortal hare]

you create objects of implementations of PlayerRepository which correspond to the persistence type

and wrap them under that class

sec

public final class ServerPlayerRepository implements PlayerRepository {
  private final PlayerRepository repository;

  private ServerPlayerRepository(PlayerRepository repository)
  {
    this.repository = repository;
  }
  
  // do centralized override method handling between implementations (exception handling etc)

  public static ServerPlayerRepository mongodb(final MongoDBProperties properties)
  {
    // check properties
    return new ServerPlayerRepository(new MongoDBPlayerRepository(properties));
    ...
  }

  public static ServerPlayerRepository postgresql(final PostgreSQLProperties properties)
  {
    return new ServerPlayerRepository(new PostgreSQLPlayerRepository(properties));
  }
}

smth like this, ofc this is too specific, but lets say you pick persistence type out of configuration file, it would return only and only according type of persistence object based on the config file contents

it enforces strictness

and allows you to control the instances which get passed to other objects

[echo basalt]

If it's just a wrapper what'd be the purpose of your ServerPlayerRepository?

Caching?

Also why public methods to create a repository if you're already in the repository class

Is the first init with a null param?

I usually opt for static factory methods on the interface itself

[mortal hare]

for example you internally you would pass player repository instances only through this class

public final class PlayerRepositoryService {
  private final PlayerRepository repository;  

  private PlayerRepositoryService(PlayerRepository repository)
  {
    this.repository = repository;
  }

  
  // Now you're guaranteed that this class is not passing external instance which might be buggy, even if its internal buggy implementation, you can easily track the bug down, since its centralized. You have compile time safety of intended behaviour
  public static PlayerRepositoryService from(ServerPlayerRepository repository)
  {
    return new PlayerRepository(repository);
  }
}

[mortal hare]

it should've been static factory methods. fixed

[mortal hare]

essentially for exception handling, caching, anything that's related between persistence layers

[mortal hare]

also the code would be self documenting, since autocomplete would only show the compatible types which are intended to be used

sure you lose flexibility over this, but for internal classes i see it as a big win

unless you're exposing an public api, or working with a big team, in that case you can do defensive checks inside centralized class and pass interface through smart constructor

[pure dagger]

but im not catching, im throwing new Exception, if someone catches Exception they will also catch RuntimeException

am i

right

?

[plush sluice]

i didnt notice that before, srry

[pure dagger]

yeah you could show me, but for now im trying to do it myself

polak?

@plush sluice

[plush sluice]

i noticed that after ive seen message from Emily

[plush sluice]

ta

[echo basalt]

I mean sure you should generally add a "service" layer between your "manager" and "database"

[pseudo hazel]

its always good to explicitly catch exceptions you might be expecting

[echo basalt]

I use mine for request de-duplication

[pseudo hazel]

imo its kinda bad to always just catch Exception

[pure dagger]

what do i do if someone does Page#add() if its full

they should check by using isFull

[echo basalt]

Where your case falls apart is mostly in code styling imo

[pure dagger]

mega mocne

[mortal hare]

wdym

[echo basalt]

I'd apply dependency inversion to that service and hide all the implementation details

Here's how I do it at work

[mortal hare]

yeah but you lose safety guarantees, and you need to document interfaces well in that case

[echo basalt]

https://paste.md-5.net/nigufelica.java
https://paste.md-5.net/nidecezeyo.java

[mortal hare]

i dont get the fear of editing source code of existing class

[echo basalt]

Dependency inversion isn't about reworking the class and it not breaking

[mortal hare]

if its refactored well enough and doesnt contain logic inside constructors or overriden methods, its easy to add new invariant

[echo basalt]

Dependency inversion is about hiding implementation details and, in my opinion, simplifying the mental process of using the API

You only need to know what you can call and what you can expect from it

[pure dagger]

yeah so what do i do here? when its full

[echo basalt]

Sure being able to change the code and whatever comes as a biproduct of that

[mortal hare]

im not saying avoid interfaces, im just saying that you should prefer invariants for internal code and for public api's you should still expose interfaces but in a way that's defensively checked against bugs that might occur from external implementations

it pays off of not having debugging nightmares

[sly topaz]

you could always just use sealed interfaces

[echo basalt]

Yeah that's an advantage of the service thing, as I mentioned prior

it's split between "service" and "database" so you can pinpoint which one's failing

[pure dagger]

😔

im being ghosted

[sly topaz]

not depending on a concrete type has the benefit of being flexible, even if at the cost of exposing your logic to possibly illegal states

[mortal hare]

if you do defensive checks inside service classes you essentially leak abstraction details

[echo basalt]

You are using a system after all

Leaking abstraction details when you fuck up is okay

Like saying "hey idiot you can't create a player with no id"

[sly topaz]

I don't believe this is an either or situation tbh, you use one pattern when you want flexibility and the other when you have a concrete system with fixed inputs/outputs

[echo basalt]

if the argument is between "generic flexible service" and "per impl service impl" then it's a case-by-case basis

[slender elbow]

either make add have a meaningful return type, like an enum (SUCCESS, FAILED_PAGE_FULL, FAILED_I_DONT_LIKE_YOU etc), or throw (and specify it is thrown) like IllegalStateException("cannot add to a full page"), or even a custom one, like a FullPageException

[pure dagger]

okay so ill just throw

it should be clear that you should check for isFull() imo, but idk how to do that

i never did this

i just used to return

but i wanna make more readable code now

[sly topaz]

whatever it is that you do, make sure you don't just silently fail by returning null or something like that. It makes for hard to diagnose code