help-development

[shy junco]

It's not very important to me right now, I need to get data from the client

[slender elbow]

okay

it is important because you can't send a login plugin message after the login process

[trim lake]

Its Block#getBlockData().getMaterial().isInteractable() reliable to disable interaction with blocks, or would be better to have list of intractable materials? I want players still be able to place block but not interact with anything.

[young knoll]

Does setting useInteractedBlock to deny in the interact event also disable placing?

[trim lake]

I will check if that clicked block is interactable, not item/block in player hand. It will be disabled anyway. For example if you right click chest you are not placing what ever block you are holding

[sly topaz]

don't ask me lol

[woeful crystal]

Where can I find the non-obfuscated 1.21.8 nms mappings?

[drowsy helm]

https://mappings.dev

[woeful crystal]

Thank you so much

That's amazing

[tranquil quail]

Fella Plugin Creators, if you see this dm me!

[worthy yarrow]

For what

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[young knoll]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[alpine urchin]

have you looked into https://github.com/Tofaa2/EntityLib

[sly topaz]

just skimped the readme, doesn't look as fancy as ClientEntities but does the job ig

[alpine urchin]

lol

[sly topaz]

I also really confused by that repository

[alpine urchin]

idk how maintained cliententities is, you suggested its not, but entitylib is more popular

[sly topaz]

why is there a discord bot there

[alpine urchin]

im not their spokesperson

lol

dont ask me lol

W comeback

[sly topaz]

turns out it just has lots of integrations

[alpine urchin]

wtf is that supposed to mean

[sly topaz]

the discord bot is just the bot for their discord server, the blockbench folder is a blockbench addon for the lib

I hate monorepos

[alpine urchin]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/calling-call-the-police-911-gif-25252175

[tranquil quail]

Simply reaching out to creators to talk to them

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah that doesn't answer the question

Talk to them about what

[thorn isle]

you can talk here

as long as it's dev related

as for dm's about non dev related things, i doubt anyone is going to slide into your dms from here to share their life story or whatever you're after

[shy junco]

I have this Velocity plugin code that sends a packet to my Fabric mod:

public void onLogin(LoginEvent event) {
    WrapperLoginServerPluginRequest request = new WrapperLoginServerPluginRequest(1, CHANNEL, new byte[0]);
    logger.info("Sending token request to player " + event.getPlayer().getUsername());
    
    PacketEvents.getAPI().getPlayerManager().sendPacket(event.getPlayer(), request);
}```

The mod receives it:

```ClientLoginNetworking.registerGlobalReceiver(HANDSHAKE_CHANNEL, this::handleHandshake);

private CompletableFuture<PacketByteBuf> handleHandshake(
        MinecraftClient client,
        ClientLoginNetworkHandler handler,
        PacketByteBuf buf,
        Consumer<ChannelFutureListener> responseSender) {
    
    try (FileReader reader = new FileReader(TOKEN_FILE)) {
        String token = readToken(reader);
        PacketByteBuf responseBuf = prepareTokenResponse(token);
        return CompletableFuture.completedFuture(responseBuf);
    } catch (IOException e) {
        LOGGER.error("Error reading token", e);
        return CompletableFuture.failedFuture(e);
    }
}```

buf structure:

```   private PacketByteBuf prepareTokenResponse(String token) {
        PacketByteBuf buf = new PacketByteBuf(Unpooled.buffer());
        if (token.isEmpty()) {
            buf.writeInt(0);
        } else {
            buf.writeInt(1);
            byte[] tokenBytes = token.getBytes(StandardCharsets.UTF_8);
            buf.writeInt(tokenBytes.length);
            buf.writeBytes(tokenBytes);
        }
        return buf;
    }```

But I don't understand how to receive the response from the client mod in my plugin.

[raw haven]

Add a listener on PluginMessageEvent

[chrome beacon]

Why are you asking this again

you've already been answered

Use the API

and move to the Paper discord for further questions

since this is the discord for Spigot and Bungeecord

[woeful crystal]

Is it safe to use a plugin that has spigot 1.21.8 nms shaded into it on a 1.21.7 server?

From what I've seen, all of the mappings I use are unchanged between the two versions

[worthy yarrow]

try it

[thorn isle]

nms shaded in

that is probably not what you want

[slender elbow]

1.21.7 server

that's just outdated 1.21.8 builds

[buoyant viper]

spigot plugin
:D

[keen charm]

👋

Is there a limit for lore on an item?

[grand flint]

if there is its really big lmao

a single line has a 256 character limit

pretty sure total lines would be 256 as well

[sly topaz]

you got it mixed up

there is a 256 limit for the total amount of lines, not characters

[grand flint]

isnt there a line limit

[thorn isle]

i'm sure there is, but it's probably beyond anything that'd be practical to render on the screen anyway

[grand flint]

yeah excatly

[thorn isle]

looks like it's measured in terms of the nbt length of the component and defaults to 2097152, presumably in bytes

there's also a max component length constant somewhere set to 262144

[young knoll]

Yeah at some point you’ll overload the networking system

Especially if it’s a packet that has multiple items with big lore together (not sure if such a thing exists)

[thorn isle]

i think the old inventory click packet was like that, for drag events

now it's a list of HashedItemStack which is i think lighter

[slender elbow]

yeah it's just a funny hashcode

[buoyant viper]

she hash on my item till i stack

[young knoll]

What about the window items packet

[slender elbow]

what about them

lore component has a single network codec

for all itemstacks

[young knoll]

Doesn’t it send the entire window of items at once

Or am I crazy

[slender elbow]

yeah but that's just a List<ItemStack> network codec

they are still individually encoded

[young knoll]

Ah

I thought the entire packet could run into a limit if you had a full chest of items with huge lore

[slender elbow]

yeah there is a limit for how big any one individual packet can be

i don't remember what it was but isn't that how the typical chunk ban or whatever works? give someone shulkers full of written books and stuff

[young knoll]

Maybe? I figured the server would refuse to send it if it knows it’s too big for the client

[slender elbow]

oh it'll certainly refuse to encode it

and proceed to kick the client

[young knoll]

Seems weird to kick the client

Just put them in the empty void of nothingness! Much more fun

[buoyant viper]

brain fart that ill test later but does UUID#fromString care if the string has hyphen separators or not?

oh hi @tender shard lol

im also having issues w recaf rn LOL

my fault i was using an old launcher version woops

[slender elbow]

yes

recaf launcher
failed to launch recaf

YOU ONLY HAD ONE JOB

[young knoll]

Sadly it doesn’t accept strings without the -

[buoyant viper]

D:

[buoyant viper]

user issue

i was running an outdated launcher that doesnt limit the version for JFX, bc apparently its kinda broken

[worthy yarrow]

runtime event trace toggling 😄

[remote swallow]

That cause could do with some formatting

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah, I was being lazy

That raw info would be displayed when you click a particular event though, otherwise a summed up format is in order ofc

Oh weird, it gets the data of the block post event if you will... should be stone but it's shown as air

[echo basalt]

does it show who cancelled it and a stacktrace of when

or is it literally an event logger

[tranquil quail]

I asked a staff and I have got permission :D

[worthy yarrow]

Rn it just logs and shows basic information

[worthy yarrow]

Good idea tho

[vast dust]

Hey yall

Im making a graves plugin

I have everything ready

I just wanted to know

That

How can i make it

So

The grave chest block

is shown as a grave texture

Without making a resource pack

and overriding another block's texture

[drowsy helm]

you'll have to mess around with block displays

[vast dust]

So, just overwrite the chest's texture but not all chests

[vast dust]

Okay, elaborate please

[drowsy helm]

not much to elaborate, you'll have to use many block displays to make a grave. It won't actually be a chest because therse no way of overriding the chest's texture with vanilla

just put a barrier, listen for player interact and open a menu

[vast dust]

Ohh i have already researched that way too haha

I was just wondering

If theres a way

to either make the chest invisible

but still interactable

and place a custom block over it

or either

a way to overwrite the chest's texture with custom metdata

[drowsy helm]

no

not without a resource pack

[vast dust]

Okay

But with the resource pack

Im not against the resource pack yk

But

Im just afraid

that it will make all chests the grave texture

which we dont want

Basically what i want is

The chest with a specific metadata

to be shown as a grave

I dont mind if its a resource pack

@drowsy helm

[drowsy helm]

yeah dont think thats possible

[vast dust]

Can we talk in dms rq

I have a few ideas id like to discuss regarding this

That i researched

[drowsy helm]

you can discuss it here

[vast dust]

Alright

So basically

1. Was the resource pack but then it'd overwrite all chests
   2nd. Was a unused/custom block, but then i'd have to make a custom inventory which is just wayy too timetaking as of now

So

Is there any work around you can suggest for this?

I was trying to use custom model data

but turns out

when you overwrite the textures using custommodeldata

it still places as its original

model texture

and i couldnt find a workaround

[drowsy helm]

yeah chests on the ground dont have custom model data

[vast dust]

yeah

[drowsy helm]

you're going to have to do a custom inventory solution any way you do it if you don't want to use a chest

[vast dust]

Im gonna try to go into mcreator and see if that has something

[vast dust]

Oh, alright. Thank you for your help

[echo basalt]

we do something like this at work

it looks fucking awful tho because MEG is shit

and I think our model is backwards

[thorn isle]

Lmao

Mythic 🚮

[mellow blade]

hello everyone! I've been trying to implement custom auth via a token (fabric client and spigot), but nothing works.. I've tried sendPluginMessage (nothing appears on the client), protocollib with custompayload (complains that there's no strings or minecraftkeys - how do I set a channel?), what's the best way to do that? I can't find practically any documentation on plugin messaging

[echo basalt]

Did you register the plugin messaging channel?

[vast dust]

@echo basalt

Hey

I think i found a way

[mellow blade]

yes, both outgoing for request and incoming for reply

[echo basalt]

Cool

[vast dust]

Illusion

Nvm

[echo basalt]

chat should I block him

[mellow blade]

idk 💔

[echo basalt]

What have you got so far

[mellow blade]

I'll send snippets rn rq

[echo basalt]

Also I'm under the impression you're using different channels for different data types?

[mellow blade]

yeah, I never worked with modern networking, only on beta 1.7, so idrk how this works

registering channels in onenable

getServer().getMessenger().registerIncomingPluginChannel(this, "geckex:auth", ah);
getServer().getMessenger().registerOutgoingPluginChannel(this, "geckex:authrequest");

ah is AuthHandler

[echo basalt]

Right so in that case you're saying the server will RECEIVE data on the auth channel and send it through authrequest

[mellow blade]

and here's the authhandler (yes, i did register events)

@EventHandler public void onJoin(PlayerJoinEvent e) {
  Player p = e.getPlayer();
  p.sendPluginMessage(plugin, "geckex:authrequest", new byte[0]);
}

[mellow blade]

that's what i want, yeah

[echo basalt]

please use proper naming 🙏

[mellow blade]

it's empty because it's just a way to signal fabric mod to send back token on auth channel

[mellow blade]

wdym?

[echo basalt]

Check pins and scroll down a lil

[mellow blade]

Ah ok i see

[echo basalt]

Anyways I'm not sure if an empty byte array works

Now show me your client code

[mellow blade]

just an old habit of working with bukkit haha

here's whats on fabric

void init()
        PayloadTypeRegistry.playS2C().register(Payload_AuthRequest.ID, Payload_AuthRequest.CODEC);
        PayloadTypeRegistry.playC2S().register(Payload_AuthResponse.ID, Payload_AuthResponse.CODEC);

        handler = new PlayPayloadHandler<Payload_AuthRequest>() {
            @Override
            public void receive(Payload_AuthRequest payload, ClientPlayNetworking.Context context) {
                context.client().player.sendMessage(Text.literal("Got authrequest"), false);
                ClientPlayNetworking.send(new Payload_AuthResponse(System.getProperties().getProperty("beeshield.token")));
            }
        };

        ClientPlayNetworking.registerGlobalReceiver(Payload_AuthRequest.ID, handler);
}

and the request/response:

public record Payload_AuthRequest() implements CustomPayload {
    public static final Identifier CHANNEL_ID = Identifier.of("geckex", "authrequest");
    public static final Id<Payload_AuthRequest> ID = new Id<>(CHANNEL_ID);
    public static final PacketCodec<RegistryByteBuf, Payload_AuthRequest> CODEC = PacketCodec.unit(new Payload_AuthRequest());

    @Override
    public @NotNull Id<? extends CustomPayload> getId() {
        return ID;
    }
}
public record Payload_AuthResponse(String token) implements CustomPayload {
    public static final Identifier CHANNEL_ID = Identifier.of("geckex", "auth");
    public static final Id<Payload_AuthResponse> ID = new Id<>(CHANNEL_ID);
    public static final PacketCodec<RegistryByteBuf, Payload_AuthResponse> CODEC = PacketCodec.tuple(PacketCodecs.STRING, Payload_AuthResponse::token, Payload_AuthResponse::new);

    @Override
    public @NotNull Id<? extends CustomPayload> getId() {
        return ID;
    }
}

i'm calling the init in onInitialize in ModInitializer

[buoyant viper]

underscore in the class name is diabolical work

[mellow blade]

i've thought of modifying login packet to include the token, but didn't want to get into that yet, i would have to modify bukkit server too then (or do heavy fuckery)

[mellow blade]

this is temporary i swear i'm not that bad 😭 🙏

[mellow blade]

also basically 0 documentation about this on fabric docs, one singular example snippet and that's it

[echo basalt]

I'm under the impression he's registering his own packets instead of payloads

not sure yet

[mellow blade]

(again, i have no experience on modern networking, so forgive me)

[echo basalt]

Are you receiving the request on the server?

[buoyant viper]

fabric "packets" are custompayload, they just look strange bc of what fabric makes u do i guess

[mellow blade]

No, I send response only when I get the request packet, and server's handler is not getting hit

[echo basalt]

I'd say

https://github.com/PokeSkies/FabricPluginMessaging

just rip this

[mellow blade]

the thing is

uhh

i've based my code on this mod

this one is server side only

[echo basalt]

aha

[mellow blade]

so i had to tweak some stuff here and there to clientplaynetworking for example

[echo basalt]

haven't fucked around with fabric in a while but your bukkit code is "fine"

[mellow blade]

i will clean it up when i get it working i promise

[mellow blade]

just tried to send a single byte, still nothing

[unreal sundial]

can someone help me with finding code? all i see is .java files called IIIIIIII

[echo basalt]

Looks like you're trying to decompile an obfuscated plugin

[unreal sundial]

im sorry what does that mean?

[echo basalt]

someone put in effort to make sure you can't decompile / reverse-engineer the plugin

[unreal sundial]

so its impossible

to

read it

[echo basalt]

nothing's impossible it's just impractical

[unreal sundial]

is there a way to deobfuscu something it

[mellow blade]

well you can manually change names back to something legible thru something like enigma

(given that logic is intact and not obfuscated, so you can make sense out of whatevers there)

[mellow blade]

so is there anything i can do? i just need to communicate between fabric and bukkit

[sage patio]

any idea why i always have to manually import Latest version of spigot?

1.21.8 will get imported correctly when a new version is released, but now then its the latest? no

(this project is not mine so its on maven, but the latest spigot its always the same on maven)

[hazy parrot]

What

[chrome beacon]

because it's not already cached on your system so Intellij can't detect it

also I have no idea why you've changed the group id

[sage patio]

whe previous ones wasn't cached either, this is the only maven project i have

[sage patio]

to import multiple spigot imports? thats what the project it self said

[chrome beacon]

You should be using multiple modules

[sage patio]

say hello to MTVehicles which it was and still it is a pain

i'll build and import the latest one manually then

[misty ingot]

how can i get the display name of a Material in a specific language?
for example
BREAD would give me Pain

[eternal night]

you can't, the server only ships en_us

[winter jungle]

doing the annotation in the same line is a crime

[thorn isle]

have you tried gluten free bread instead

[echo basalt]

spigot and spigot-api are different

spigot is build with BT and cached in mavenlocal

and sometimes illegally distributed through other maven repos like <REDACTED>MC and some others

heck I have a private repo with some folia devbuilds and other goodies myself

[sullen marlin]

Also what's with the ......

[echo basalt]

he was thinking about it

[sterile geyser]

help me

[echo basalt]

no

[winter jungle]

nah

[echo basalt]

buddy left the server 😭

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[winter jungle]

he left

I think he took it personally

[sage patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741875863271899136/1400431591427145740/image.png?ex=688c9d0e&is=688b4b8e&hm=eee1812cb76b4a1bc07a625be3635a3b28a4550a490e27e06ac2a90239766e1f&

i've no idea how maven works

[sage patio]

hmm, lemme try that

[sullen marlin]

I have never heard of the dot thing, sounds like a fun hack

[misty ingot]

oh. fu-

no workaround?

except ofcourse manually making a config file with the translated name of each material

[thorn isle]

why are you trying to translate it manually

[sage patio]

first of all, THE CODE IS NOT MINE xd (https://github.com/MTVehicles/MinetopiaVehicles)
seems it needs spigot

[thorn isle]

typically you create a translatable component and then have the client translate it to the correct locale

[misty ingot]

that works too, how would i go about doing that?

[thorn isle]

depends on the context in which you are trying to display the text

[misty ingot]

what in the

[misty ingot]

in an inventory

[thorn isle]

with adventure, you create one with Component.translatable(translation key), you can get the translation key from an itemstack/block

i don't remember how bungee components on spigot work anymore since it's been too many years since i last used them

[misty ingot]

i wonder if that works with PAPI

likely not right

[echo basalt]

my favorite hack is softdepending on zZZZzZZzZzZ so your plugin initializes last without depending on "first-tick" stuff

[thorn isle]

depends on how you do it

[misty ingot]

i basically wanna return the display name of a material i choose through a papi placeholder
now i could do this easily IF i was allowed to do it in only en_us

but its in another language

[sage patio]

still using this master peace to build spigot xd

[thorn isle]

so you choose the material with the placeholder?

[echo basalt]

papi doesn't support components afaik

but you can run the result through minimessage elsewhere

[echo basalt]

1_21_R5 is 1.21.7/8

[misty ingot]

the code chooses what material
the placeholder is just a placeholder

[thorn isle]

it doesn't directly, but yeah minimessage works

[sage patio]

yea i'm building the versions i want to use one by one

already build 21.8

[misty ingot]

ima be real, never used minimessage
how would i do this?

[thorn isle]

i don't remember

basically minimessage is a string format that supports defining components with like <hover> and <translatable> tags, which you'll need to use since papi works with strings rather than components

so you take your raw string, parse it through papi, then parse it with minimessage into components

and then you shove the components in the item lore or send them in chat or whatever

[echo basalt]

pretty sure kyori also has a translation thing where you can use the player's locale

that way you skip translatable components entirely and decode them on the server

as long as the server has access to the lang data

[slender elbow]

he's just very dramatic

[slender elbow]

i'm going to take a wild guess and say that the PlayerJoinEvent is called before the client sends the channel registration request, on the server the earliest you can send a payload for any given channel is for the respective channel's PlayerRegisterChannelEvent

[mellow blade]

hmm

how should I reorganize it then?

[slender elbow]

instead of sending in the join event, send in the other event i suggested, making sure the event is being called for the channel you are registering (auth or whatever)

[alpine solar]

HUH

aren't you supposed to use modules?

[slender elbow]

yes

[sage patio]

Its not my code / project, i was just trying to get it to work

[alpine solar]

😭

[sage patio]

Also i dont know much about maven

[worldly ingot]

What does that work? That's kind of a big brain move (if not profoundly stupid) lol

[slender elbow]

a big brain move to improperly structure your project yes

[thorn isle]

how does that work with so many duplicate classes on the classpath?

[worldly ingot]

That's why I also said profoundly stupid

[potent heron]

anyone can give me an idea for make a pluin

[grand flint]

steal a brainrot

grow a garden

[potent heron]

a plugin of steal a brainrot?

[grand flint]

yeah

[potent heron]

Tell me something else like what you want me to do

[grand flint]

idk go play the roblox game

it has a gazillion players

[worldly ingot]

Roblox unironically is probably a good place to find inspiration

[potent heron]

ok

Yes

[thorn isle]

bomb your neighbor (in minecraft)

[grand flint]

yeah even

roblox steals from steam

minrcraft steals from roblox

ez

[sand bridge]

Cheap or free ah plugin that comes with bedrock and Java support that gets consistent updates (is like none of these/very few)

I'm sure is plenty of people willing to pay 5,10 prob even 20$ for it

[grand flint]

15$

[potent heron]

but I still can't publish a paid plugin

[grand flint]

hmm

publish an extension for the plugin first

then publish the paid plugin lmao

[potent heron]

ok

[thorn isle]

why would an ah plugin need consistent updates

seems like a pretty feature complete concept, no?

you put things up for sale and people can buy them

you could probably write one against 1.8 and have it work on 1.21.8

[grand flint]

noo way

[slender elbow]

"bump version"

[grand flint]

lmao

[wooden bay]

peak me

[daring light]

What would be the best way to disable a specific item from being crafted?

[eternal oxide]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Bukkit.html#removeRecipe(org.bukkit.NamespacedKey)

[potent heron]

anyone is bedrock for taste mi plugin

[wooden bay]

Let me taste your plugin

[coral dagger]

Can everyone help me with my plugin

package de.WombedCone.minecraftServerPlugin;

import de.WombedCone.minecraftServerPlugin.commands.testCommand;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public final class MinecraftServerPlugin extends JavaPlugin {

@Override
public void onEnable() {
    // Registrierung des Befehls
    if (getCommand("testCommand") != null) {
        getCommand("testCommand").setExecutor(new testCommand());
        getLogger().info("testCommand erfolgreich registriert.");
    } else {
        getLogger().warning("Fehler: testCommand wurde nicht in plugin.yml gefunden!");
    }
}

@Override
public void onDisable() {
    getLogger().info("MinecraftServerPlugin wurde deaktiviert.");
}

}

name: Minecraft Server Plugin
version: '1.0-SNAPSHOT'
main: de.WombedCone.minecraftServerPlugin.MinecraftServerPlugin
api-version: '1.21'
commands:
testCommand:
description: Ein Test
aliases:
- test
permissions:
Test:
description: Erlaubt Zugriff auf den testCommand
default: op

package de.WombedCone.minecraftServerPlugin.commands;

import org.bukkit.command.Command;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandExecutor;
import org.bukkit.command.CommandSender;

public class testCommand implements CommandExecutor {

@Override
public boolean onCommand(CommandSender sender, Command cmd, String label, String[] args) {
    if (sender.hasPermission("test")) {
        sender.sendMessage("§aDas ist ein zweiter Test");
    } else {
        sender.sendMessage("§cDu darfst das nicht tun.");
    }
    return true;
}

}

ich wollte nur mal testen zu programieren

und es funktioniert nichts

[kind hatch]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[kind hatch]

We have it for a reason

[thorn isle]

what do you need help with specifically

[daring light]

Thanks!

[pure dagger]

do we do == or equals to check if 2 inventories are the same? cause i think they have to be the same object

[worldly ingot]

They should be referentially comparable, but if you're ever unsure, there's no real harm in calling equals()

Except an NPE I guess lol

[young knoll]

Objects.equals

[pure dagger]

okay so its better to use == ?

[hybrid spoke]

if you want to make sure it's the same object, sure

[pure dagger]

i guess i do

[hybrid spoke]

otherwise equals is always the better option

[pure dagger]

i wanna check if the inventory is a gui, so i can cancell event, but im not sure if this can be 2 objects but same inventory

if you know what imean

[hybrid spoke]

this uses equals for example https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-gui-inventory/

[mortal hare]

who the hell decided that this is a good idea

"Im gonna waste hours in debugging because i wont tell you what broke" ahh moment

i hate visual studio

ofc it was a caching issue in visual studio

because WHY WONT THE CLEAN AND REBUILD OPTION WONT CLEAR THE CACHE

who would have thought that it would clean the project

[young knoll]

What are you doing in visual studio

[mortal hare]

including the cache

im forced to use it for x++

i'd have to say it was the worst experience i ever had in programming

[young knoll]

x++?

[mortal hare]

desync issues everywhere

yes

its proprietary microsoft language based on .net

[young knoll]

Is that like some weird language made by Elon musk

[mortal hare]

for dynamics 365

the tooling for is like made out of twigs

it barely works

and always throws errors even if you didnt do anything wrong

for example i had to edit xml file manually because visual studio has a bug where regenerating it doesnt append parameters properly

that's how awful it is

[young knoll]

The heck is dynamics 365

[mortal hare]

i thought i've seen everything ,but then i saw x++ ecosystem and it was new low for me

[mortal hare]

legacy axapta ported to webclient that's now rebranded as dynamics 365 finance & operations

its ERP system basically

its slow, lacks basic functionality, tooling for it is awful

i cant see a single reason i would use it

[young knoll]

So why are you forced to use it

[mortal hare]

work related

[young knoll]

Some company that never migrated after 20 years?

[mortal hare]

nope. im talking about modern stack

that's the modern stack im describing of Dynamics/Axapta

its awful

[young knoll]

I assume the old one was just chalk on a slate

[mortal hare]

its like getting segfaults everywhere but its not that you cause it but some weird visual studio bug does it

and you're the bug hunter for bugs which caused visual studio xml generators for that system

there's no LSP for it in visual studio code, it there was i would never use that pile of crap

the worst i've seen is that you need to use visual basic to generate reports for certain records

and its ok, its legacy right, its understandable

but then you realize that that sometimes it deletes the whole design from the project for no apprarent reason if it fails to load it

and now you have to redo the design all over again just because visual studio craps itself

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pedro-pascal-smiling-happy-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-nick-cage-gif-27709110

[wet breach]

and this is why, if something works you probably shouldn't change it

[mortal hare]

all of tech which d365 f&scm uses is kinda legacy in a way but with new layer of paint (GUI was ported from desktop app to web UI which is kinda awesome)

buttt.... i would expect legacy components be stable as a rock (backend stuff)

yet its either visual studio which is buggy or the build tools for it

[wicked bluff]

Just saw today that the bungee TextComponent is depreciated, I almost never need to use it, does this mean that spigot is getting Adventure as a replacement?

[young knoll]

Ur using the paper api aren’t you

[wicked bluff]

No, but I am trying to send players rich text on Spigot, Paper and Folia.

[young knoll]

Well I assure you it’s not deprecated

[wicked bluff]

I see, loaded another project, still getting used to Intellij switched from eclipse. Good I don't have to relearn how to do components. whew.

[buoyant viper]

are you using paper?

no, but i am using paper

mfw

but yeah Paper+Folia might just complain bc it recommends u use Adventure, but until they hard break their API ur basically fine using Bungee components

[feral salmon]

@sullen marlin Can we talk privately? I would like to talk to you about trying to contribute more too the SpigotMC project and its infrastructure.

I have alot of unused equipment and 10 static ip addresses.

been here for 9 and 1/2 years now.

I am quite invested in this marketplace and its future.

[woeful crystal]

Hi

[vast dust]

Hey guys

I will be done with my graves plugin today

Just adding polishes

Anyone who'd be down to help me find bugs in the plugin and test it?

DM

[winter jungle]

I could swear I have read a message like this before

[feral salmon]

If at first you don't succeed, try try again.

[drowsy helm]

i might be wrong but i think spigot infra is already subsidised by a sponsor\

and not to throw a shot at you, but nothing in your website really shows that you're a reputable host

[twin venture]

how much time it takes?

[sullen marlin]

5-7 years

[wooden bay]

https://tenor.com/view/strinova-celestia-gif-138751152240754732

[buoyant viper]

what are the prerequisites for using api provided by another plugin, just setting as a [soft]depend in your plugin.yml, and the Plugin classloader will do the rest?

[young knoll]

Yep

[buoyant viper]

going to try my best to prevent cyclic dependencies, but how are those handled?

iirc i know a cyclic hard depend just fails

but i remember reading somewhere recently that cyclic softdepends are "handled arbitrarily"

[twin venture]

iam dead :e

[thorn isle]

for paper plugins yes; for bukkit plugins it is arbitrary

[alpine urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-funny-cant-believe-lebron-james-gif-11974292

[umbral ermine]

hey i want to make a plugin for 1.21.1 and i have coded it .zip can someone tell me how to make it be .jar?

[chrome beacon]

I assume you vibe coded it

as you've been answered in general you can use maven or gradle

[thorn isle]

Change the extension from zip to jar

[chrome beacon]

I'm going to assume they just zipped the .java files

[thorn isle]

Good enough

[young knoll]

What the JVM can’t compile it itself?

Smh

[thorn isle]

Let me tell you about graalvm

[misty ingot]

when i set the display name of an itemstack, it makes that name italics
how can i remove the italics?

[lilac dagger]

&r in front?

[misty ingot]

why does it make it italics anyway

its so... unnecessary

[lilac dagger]

i dunno

may be a way to differentiate from the og name

[pseudo hazel]

yes its because when you name an item in an anvil its italic so people know its different from the underlying name

[misty ingot]

i see.

well at least it does serve a purpose

[lilac dagger]

oh right

display names comes from anvil feature no?

[young knoll]

Pretty much

[lilac dagger]

that's so cool

[young knoll]

Back before we had components and all that fancy stuff

[slender elbow]

1.6? :p

[young knoll]

1.4

[grim hound]

When you retexture an elytra, the texture curves at the edges, not to mention that it needs to be in a very specific location to even render
Does anyone know how you could render some bigger elytra texture that does not curve on the edges?

[potent crescent]

?? really?

wtf

is that really? lol

[last kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/try-it-and-see-give-it-a-try-try-try-and-see-try-it-yourself-gif-24095805

[potent crescent]

i dont think

it will work

[grim hound]

They are the same thing

[potent crescent]

really?

[grim hound]

Like 4 people told you so already

[thorn isle]

a jar is just a zip, the format is the same

[potent crescent]

omg

[thorn isle]

but a jar of course needs to have the correct things in it to function as a plugin

which, if you vibecoded it and it's like .txt and .java files, is not what'll happen

[potent crescent]

I thought we needed a meaven to assemble and build it.

[thorn isle]

that is preferred, but just compiling .java files through javac into .class files and then zipping them up works as well

it's just a lot more effort to do that, so maven is used to automate the process

so i still would recommend you look up how to set up maven and gradle and use that to build

[potent crescent]

alr

It was a strange idea for me 😂

[thorn isle]

changing the texture won't be enough, you'll have to change the model to have a different transformation, specifically scale

i think that should be possible with modern versions; it used to be that equipped item models, like armor or elytra, weren't remodelable/texturable with custommodeldata

but i vaguely remember support being added for that in i think 1.21

[grim hound]

Ah

I see what you mean

So basically creating a high resolution elytra texture and put my own texture on the part that's always rendered flat

And just increase the scale somewhere

I wonder, will minecraft pixelate it or does it not do any bs and just renders the vertices as they are?

[thorn isle]

vertices are a model thing, pixels are a texture thing

[grim hound]

I am aware

[thorn isle]

you can't pixelate vertices

[grim hound]

I am

Not

The sharpest pencil in the pencil case

[thorn isle]

can you rephrase your question

[grim hound]

Basically elytras

They render the major part of them on a flat surface

However, if you texture goes beyond a certain point

It will become 3d

As in: the texture will wrap around a 3d block

[grim hound]

However, this seems to be correspondent to specific parts of the elytra texture

Some won't render at all

[thorn isle]

different portions of the texture are UV mapped to different faces of the model

this should work the same say as upscaling regular block textures does

[grim hound]

Now I want to render wings, which should be only on a flat surface to look good

[thorn isle]

my recommendation would almost be to get one off of mcmarket to get your hands on a wings model, or make one in blockbench

the standard elytra model won't do

it has a fixed shape and size and changing the texture only changes what colors that shape look like

[grim hound]

Yeah I know

But you can just put the texture on only one face

(altough not sure where that is)

No wiki on that

[grim hound]

Since I need to make it look "flat"

Just having trouble getting it right, since it seems to often get into the other faces at the edges

And when made smaller, it just intersects with itself when rendered for some reason, and well, is smaller, much less noticeable

[thorn isle]

are you trying to make the wings appear visibly larger ingame than the vanilla elytra is?

[grim hound]

Nope

[thorn isle]

smaller?

[grim hound]

Nope

Same size if I could

But I could take larger

[thorn isle]

you just want them to be higher resolution?

[grim hound]

Well bigger and not intersecting

Since resolution can be probably solved by just using a higher multiple of the 2:1 ratio of the elytra texture for the canvas

[thorn isle]

if you want them to be larger, you have to change the model

same if you want to change the shape otherwise, i.e. make them not intersect

i can't find the specific model in the assets with a quick search, you might be better off asking in some modeling discord like blockbench

or mythicmobs, but they will probably tell you to buy one of their 500 copy-paste $25 wing asset packs

[grim hound]

Blockbench it is

[misty ingot]

how can i go about supporting color codes like #ffe400

[grand flint]

minimessage

[misty ingot]

how exactly?

[echo basalt]

color:#ffe400

[buoyant viper]

Components

either with ur own way of formatting it, or with a prebaked solution like MiniMessage like others mentioned

[thorn isle]

minimessage is quickly becoming the new industry standard

i really advise against a homebrew solution of parsing it yourself

[misty ingot]

so i have a component now, which i got from #deserialize()-ing a string with a color tag
now how would i use this component to set the name of an item, or to send this message to a player

[buoyant viper]

besides gradients and "actionable" components (hover, click) i support mm-esque formatting :p

[young knoll]

I mean

Spigot can parse it fine

[young knoll]

For sending a message to a player you can use adventure platform
Bukkit

[thorn isle]

if you mean the § thing, yeah, though you'd probably want to regex the #rrggbb into that so the end user doesn't have to deal with the §s

[young knoll]

For an item name, either NMS or just use the legacy serializer to go back to a string

[buoyant viper]

https://github.com/winnpixie/commons-spigot/blob/main/src/main/java/io/github/winnpixie/commons/spigot/TextHelper.java

&#RRGGBB and <#RRGGBB> 😎

[thorn isle]

i would've just uh

[misty ingot]

how the heck does it get the color from the hex

[buoyant viper]

Components handle that magic for me internally lol

i just supply spigot with the String format it expects

[misty ingot]

so how exactly am i support to use this

[thorn isle]

done replaceAll with (?i)#([a-f,0-9])([a-f,0-9])([a-f,0-9])([a-f,0-9])([a-f,0-9])([a-f,0-9]) and §$1§$2§$3§$4§$5§$6

[misty ingot]

i have to turn the string i get into a component?

[young knoll]

But that’s not a compiled regex!!!!111

[thorn isle]

idk how regex actually performs in java actually

[buoyant viper]

yeah, i have an unpushed commit that cleans it up with regex instead of the manual by-char handling i do there

[thorn isle]

the strinbuilder scan method might be more efficient

[young knoll]

I found one that actually compiles the regex to a pattern a while ago

Don’t remember where it was, somewhere on the forums

[thorn isle]

i mean you can just toss that into a Pattern.compile and then do new Matcher(str).replaceAll() or something

String::replaceAll is just api sugar for matcher anyway

[misty ingot]

@buoyant viper what exactly do you do with the output of #convertHexTags to make it work?

[young knoll]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/hex-color-code-translate.449748/#post-3867804

[thorn isle]

you pass the string to one of the spigot methods that handle color codes

[young knoll]

I think this was it

[thorn isle]

just as you would pass a string with other § color codes

e.g. player::sendMessage

[young knoll]

Doh that doesn’t link to the exact reply

[thorn isle]

myeah that's how you'd do it

those matcher methods were the best thing added in java 9

[misty ingot]

so the string that method gives me is formatted in a way that i can just use it straight up?

[young knoll]

public String translateHexColorCodes(String startTag, String endTag, String message)
    {
        final Pattern hexPattern = Pattern.compile(startTag + "([A-Fa-f0-9]{6})" + endTag);
        Matcher matcher = hexPattern.matcher(message);
        StringBuffer buffer = new StringBuffer(message.length() + 4 * 8);
        while (matcher.find())
        {
            String group = matcher.group(1);
            matcher.appendReplacement(buffer, COLOR_CHAR + "x"
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(0) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(1)
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(2) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(3)
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(4) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(5)
                    );
        }
        return matcher.appendTail(buffer).toString();
    }```

Though you should move the pattern to a static field

[buoyant viper]

this is roughly what my new method looks like

[thorn isle]

or no that doesn't use the new java 9 methods

[buoyant viper]

but with the regex pattern being a constant yeah

[thorn isle]

that uses the old ugly java 8 while find

[young knoll]

The method itself should probably be static too

Also isn’t StringBuffer the fancy threadsafe one

[sly topaz]

StringBuffer in the big 2025

[ivory sleet]

Ye

[young knoll]

Should be a StringBuilder

[sly topaz]

oops mention, sos

[buoyant viper]

yeah

[young knoll]

Technically it’s in the big 2020

And we all know that year was a mess, so the code fits

[thorn isle]

public String translateHexColorCodes(String startTag, String endTag, String message) {
        final Pattern hexPattern = Pattern.compile(startTag + "([A-Fa-f0-9]{6})" + endTag);
        Matcher matcher = hexPattern.matcher(message);
        return matcher.replaceAll((MatchResult match) -> {
            var group = match.group();
            return COLOR_CHAR + "x"
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(0) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(1)
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(2) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(3)
                    + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(4) + COLOR_CHAR + group.charAt(5);
        })
}

[buoyant viper]

tldr; just use minimessage

i just have a custom solution because i hate myself and reinvent the wheel

[young knoll]

But minimessage has to parse it to a component and then back to a string!!!!111

Muh cpu cycles

[sly topaz]

private final static char COLOR_CHAR = '§';
private static final Pattern HEX_PATTERN = Pattern.compile("<#([A-Fa-f0-9]{6})>");

public static String color(String message) {
  return HEX_PATTERN.matcher(message).replaceAll(mr -> {
        var hex = mr.group(1);
        var sb = new StringBuilder(COLOR_CHAR + "x");
        for (char c : hex.toCharArray())
          sb.append(COLOR_CHAR).append(c);
        
        return sb.toString();
  });
}

[ivory sleet]

now ur creating a new array no?

[thorn isle]

what now

replaceAll builds and returns the string

[buoyant viper]

this may be almost exactly what mine is, minus directly using .replaceAll there

[thorn isle]

i don't think you need an extra stringbuilder here

the group(1) in place of group() is correct

[sly topaz]

I mean, it is the same thing except you're using the + symbol instead of an explicit string builder

but it gets translated down to a string builder anyway

[thorn isle]

mmm i don't think it does anymore

it was in like java 9 or 16 or something that string joins were optimized a bit

[ivory sleet]

Ur still cloning the arr in the for loop

Which vcss version doesnt have

[thorn isle]

it tries to estimate the length ahead of time now and does it all with just a single string construct if it can

in this case the length can be determined ahead of time since the joined bits are all either string constants or char primitives

[sly topaz]

I don't think that would impose any performance issues tho

[thorn isle]

if we're counting allocations and shit the while find stringbuilder is probably the most efficient approach (replaceall still needs to splice together a bunch of strings), but this is a bit less verbose

[sly topaz]

I do wonder whether it gets optimized away

[ivory sleet]

Ye definitely

[thorn isle]

you can get rid of the array clone with the String::chars iterator i think

[sly topaz]

Does compiler explorer have a JITted Java output? lol

[thorn isle]

it might get optimized away by jit yeah

seems like a viable case for escape analysis maybe

looking at how shit gets jit'd is a bit more complicated than bytecode since it depends on runtime heuristics

you usually just run the program with a benchmark with the some arcane jit debugging flags on that i don't remember that dump the c1 and c2 compiled code and display inlining info and shit

[sly topaz]

There is no possible way a color message method is called enough times that it gets optimized out but I do wonder

[thorn isle]

and then you look at it with some assembly viewer

[sly topaz]

I’ll try make a JMH benchmark since I am bored

famous last words

[thorn isle]

i last did this a few years back when trying to optimize server AABB allocations and i was like blackout drunk so i don't quite remember the process anymore

all i remember is that i'm very disappointed in jit escape analysis

almost every allocation of AABB could be eliminated with competent escape analysis, but jit gives up because there are like 50 nested overloads on the AABB resize methods, so they can't be inlined

i'll eventually maybe try submitting a pr to paper that straightens out the overloads directly into the ctor

[sly topaz]

Tbf that is not something a JIT would take care of

They need to be fast, and escape analysis of that level is probably not

[thorn isle]

i mean it would work if jit would inline the entire call

but it goes over the default instruction length for inlining

it works fine when you crank it up to like 10x

but that has other issues

[sly topaz]

I wish we had compiler intrinsics in Java

That way we could just hint the jit to in-line stuff as necessary

[thorn isle]

there's @ForceInline but it's restricted for internal jvm classes only

because regular java devs can't have nice things

what do you mean you want more control over your code and how it runs? no, fuck you, also we're getting rid of unsafe because fuck you

you could accidentally BREAK SOMETHING if we let you use these things

[sly topaz]

They do treat us pleb Java devs like babies

Then there’s languages like Nim which just let you do whatever you want

[buoyant viper]

just write C

a Segfault awaits at every corner

[slender elbow]

https://fxtwitter.com/kosa12m/status/1950700183790158167

(send that for embed)

[torn shuttle]

wonder when they'll release chatgpt 5

the deadline is tomorrow right

yeah

[grand flint]

whats wrong with the new gpt

[torn shuttle]

on august 2nd new EU laws kick into action that start regulating ai companies

[grand flint]

its pretty smart if u ask me

depends how u ask it though

like if u just say code me a plugin ur just stupider than the ai 🙏

[grand flint]

whats the law

[thorn isle]

how are they regulated

social scoring

i already violate it

good

[torn shuttle]

starting tomorrow any new models that come out have to say where they trained from

so models are trying to do a big last push in the next 24h

seemingly the idea would be to have gpt 5 out before the new deadline hits

[thorn isle]

neat

[torn shuttle]

there's other stuff as well but that's probably the biggest immediate change

much funnier is how they're fighting against microsoft

they have a contract with microsoft where microsoft has a bunch of rights and owns 49% of their business but only until openai achieves AGI

[echo basalt]

@lost matrix remind me, did you have some sort of distributed map that would do instant reads/writes to a local cache with eventual replication?

[sly topaz]

I highly doubt they have gpt 5 ready

[echo basalt]

I need something with instant reads, eventual writes and distributed

[torn shuttle]

so now microsoft is already saying gpt 5 is kinda bad while altman is out there claiming it's literally going to destroy all of human civilization the moment it comeso ut

[sly topaz]

and if they launch, it si gonna be the most mid launch ever

[echo basalt]

TTL etc are nice-to-haves

[torn shuttle]

it's just very, very funny

honestly the main thing I want is just for them to slash api costs by a lot so other providers do the same, api prices are still way too high

[thorn isle]

it's going to be another nothingburger i'm sure

[torn shuttle]

eh I mean it'll probably just be a bit better

I don't find any of the gpt models to be better than claude right now

maybe it'll meet claude, or maybe beat it by a bit

I did hear they are finally doing 1 million context size though which is nice

[sly topaz]

that sounds like you want Hazelcast

[torn shuttle]

I mean google has been doing 2 million for months but it's still nice

[echo basalt]

Does Hazelcast populate the map on startup?

[thorn isle]

if you agree to share traffic with them they give you something like 10m free daily tokens, and you can enable it for specific projects so you can do both

[echo basalt]

trying to do guilds with claims without having to worry about latency

[sly topaz]

you can configure it to, but it isn't the default

[thorn isle]

i use it for the deep research models because i don't really care if openai trains their shit on the specific bearing sizes or spare part specs i'm trying to find online

and it saves me lots of money because the deep research models eat up tokens like crazy

[echo basalt]

My AI's suggesting this

[thorn isle]

how does eventual replication with instant writes work

[echo basalt]

I don't care about instant writes

[thorn isle]

what if two parties write a value to the same key

[echo basalt]

they can have locks idm

in short I need instant read access to "loaded guilds" across the entire network, can do async / locked writes and once a guild becomes unloaded it gets removed from the maps and yeeted into the db

[lost matrix]

I have a map that synchronizes local caches between several instances.
Its using redis. Want me to send it?

[echo basalt]

Sure might as well

Sounds like RLocalCachedMap with extra steps

[sly topaz]

if you're already using redis then LocalCachedMap is probably your best bet

[torn shuttle]

I don't see why I should care if whoever trains their models on my code honestly

[echo basalt]

problem with LocalCachedMap is that the data is only cached when it gets hit

[lost matrix]

Let me document it real quick

[thorn isle]

yeah, if anything, it just means the next model might be marginally better at what i'm trying to do

[echo basalt]

the AI solution could work

where it just gets every key and calls get

for shits n giggles

[thorn isle]

but if you use it to like process personal information of other people it might be illegal or something

[torn shuttle]

I know it trained on my data because there's some specific patterns I do it recognizes really well

I love putting static classes as listeners inside of other classes

I don't know really anyone else does that but the ai definitely sees it coming when I start typing it

[sly topaz]

it is gonna populate the map eagerly, however you'll have to put in a strict cache eviction rule in order for that to not get stale

[echo basalt]

it can get stale idm

[thorn isle]

out of curiosity, what is this for

[sly topaz]

inb4 1.8 cannon factions

[echo basalt]

Rpg server thingy

Already explained up above sorta

Sup fella

[sly topaz]

are those still popular

I can't remember the last time I have seen one

[daring light]

I wonder why

[torn shuttle]

you're right, we should ban you here as well

maybe a mod can wake up and deal with that

[thorn isle]

i think i implemented this myself a while ago for generic network-wide player data, like nsfw filter toggle status

[sly topaz]

@young knoll maybe you wanna take a look at this

[thorn isle]

though it was a sort of homebrew solution on top of rabbitmq rather than redis, because i don't like redis

but redis is probably the more appropriate tool

[sly topaz]

I don't think anyone actually likes redis anymore

or well, valkey now

[thorn isle]

it seems like it's a jack of all trades and kind of shit at them all

[echo basalt]

I jiat realized making feature flags with it becomes effortless

[thorn isle]

were they ever?

i remember there being two or three big ones

but they all went bankrupt

[torn shuttle]

they come and go

[thorn isle]

i don't think it's any less popular than like say towny, just setting up a good rpg server that's worth playing takes way more money and effort than the alternatives

so they all go bankrupt and run out of manpower in like a year

[torn shuttle]

even if you make a good rpg experience, they all end at some point

unless someone starts working on a WoW type beat in minecraft which you'd have to be insane to try

[echo basalt]

[torn shuttle]

at some point you have just reached the end of the experience

[thorn isle]

if it isn't super massive you can probably churn through new players as old ones leave, rather than try keeping up with new content

a new one is born every minute

[torn shuttle]

sure

[lost matrix]

https://gist.github.com/Flo0/2006d9b7beaecd299f56812d3c7f9f1b

[torn shuttle]

there's some servers out there that kinda do it but they don't tend to stay in the zeitgeist for long

even if it's new to someone, it no longer is news

[sly topaz]

if HP Skyblock could get popular with MMORPG-like features, I am pretty sure other gamemodes could as well

[thorn isle]

well yeah i don't think churning through players and staying hip with the mainstream are mutually compatible

or god knows

the mainstream seems dumber and dumber every year

[echo basalt]

that literally looks like you reinvented RLocalCachedMap

[thorn isle]

fucking "generator" servers

literally 3d cookie clicker

[lost matrix]

🥲

[sly topaz]

is that still a thing, I was amazed that got any popularity

[thorn isle]

it seems to be more popular than ever

[torn shuttle]

hey I like a good incremental game

nothing wrong with those

[sly topaz]

I never got the concept right, is it just like, mining? Lol

[lost matrix]

With the exception that it provides computation methods that utilize RLocks to lock down states while they are being modified by one of the cache holders.

[torn shuttle]

I'd take an incremental game over a gacha game any day of my life

[thorn isle]

it has evolved to "dungeon" servers where instead of generating things you auto-attack progressively more damage-spongey mobs that stand still and don't fight back, for incremental weapon upgrades

[sly topaz]

I love gacha, I am sadly too poor to actually enjoy it though

[thorn isle]

i.e. stand in place and pick a new mob to auto-attack once a minute or so as the old one dies

[torn shuttle]

that's just poor execution on a concept that could work

[thorn isle]

they're all like this, this is the mainstream execution

i think because it's functionally just a reskin of the already popular generator/idle bullshit

making it actually a game would defeat the point

[sly topaz]

so like, vampire survivors but in minecraft

or holocure

[torn shuttle]

you can make something like that fun imo, you just have to do it right

[thorn isle]

is that some mobile game i'm too old to know about

[torn shuttle]

even if it's autofarming mobs

[echo basalt]

Looks dope, only improvement I'd make for it would be adding update / removal listeners

[torn shuttle]

vampire survivors is a whole genre on steam now, and a pretty wildly popular one at that

it autoattacks and you just pick from upgrades while dodging enemies

in a sense you could see it as a spiritual successor to those 2d space shooter games

a lot of those also just always had guns shooting

[lost matrix]

Yeah probably a good idea. The methods are there anyways, and adding just a List<BiConsumer<K, V>> is not a huge problem 😄
Ill add that right now actually.

[echo basalt]

And maybe some configuration system where I can pass a default executor or something

[torn shuttle]

really vampire survivors is just a bullet hell game where you have to pick your powerups as you go

[echo basalt]

I wouldn't mind turning this into a full library with sets and other collection types

[torn shuttle]

man I really am putting off working on my resourpack pack hosting ysstem

fml

I should get back to that

[lost matrix]

I went down that rabbit hole. A little bit like an ODM.
Imagine you could use mongoDB with a simple Map<K, V> interface. Or Files.
This makes my persistance trivial.

[echo basalt]

I wouldn't take it as far as hooking into mongo or whatever

[sly topaz]

HoloCure is the highest rated free to play game in steam, and it is essentially vampire survivors but vtubers instead of vampires

[echo basalt]

just something with configs and whatever else

maybe something that implemented Map instead of just a couple methods

[undone axle]

Done. That felt good.

[young knoll]

Crap that wasn’t a softban

[torn shuttle]

lol

[echo basalt]

also line 56 could be reworked to invoke loadFullRemoteState

[lost matrix]

  private final Map<String, SomeData> localMap;
  private final Map<String, SomeData> mongoMap;
  
  public SomeClass(MongoDBDataHandlerFactory mongoFactory) {
    this.localMap = new HashMap<>();
    this.mongoMap = mongoFactory...;
  }
  
  public void load() {
    this.localMap.putAll(this.mongoMap);
  }
  
  public void save() {
    this.mongoMap.putAll(this.localMap);
  }

Example. It can serialize practially anything automatically.

[echo basalt]

at that point

just have RemoteMap and CachedMap<K,V>(RemoteMap<K,V>) impls

[undone axle]

CafeBabe Help Menu

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?cleanup

Base command for deleting messages.

​

**__Subcommands:__**

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between Delete the messages between Message One and Message Two...
bot Clean up command messages and messages from the bot in the...
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**__Subcommands:__** (continued)

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[young knoll]

Crap

[echo basalt]

jishuna you're bogging down the chat

someone mute him

[lost matrix]

The staff here is of questionable quality i must say

[young knoll]

Hey wait a second

[echo basalt]

I think I've seen my dad more than you, smile

[lost matrix]

Is that a euphemism for something? I dont get it.

[echo basalt]

milk joke

[torn shuttle]

he does

[lost matrix]

What?

[echo basalt]

dad went out for milk and never came back joke

[torn shuttle]

I saw that

[lost matrix]

Ah

[echo basalt]

perv

[torn shuttle]

worse than perv

[thorn isle]

although rather than doing locked/synchronized writes, they were instant and local, but could only be performed on the "authoritative" server, typically the one the player was currently connected to

[torn shuttle]

a cowardly perv

stand your ground

leave that stupid joke up

[sly topaz]

don't worry I saw it too

[thorn isle]

cross-server writes were locked and used futures

[lost matrix]

Delusional peple here. Shaking my head.

[echo basalt]

smh my head

[torn shuttle]

I ain't no coward, I'll say it: the mods think @echo basalt milks his dad, and I think that is very funny

[echo basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-gif-26460622

as for the events it might be worth knowing if they came from a resync vs whatever else

[lost matrix]

Anyways, no idea why i even went there. I got stuff to do. Hf spigoteers

[thorn isle]

this was actually a little difficult to get right since on velocity, a player connects to the target server before they disconnect from the source server

[torn shuttle]

tell his dad hi on my behalf

[lost matrix]

The AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent is fired before he disconnects from the previous server.
That is such a mess to deal with.

[thorn isle]

thankfully there is a time window during which the client goes through the config phase and that's more than enough to update network state for who is the authoritative server

[echo basalt]

can we get a removeIf pls :3

[torn shuttle]

ok I need to actually look at this resource pack hosting code again, fml

[thorn isle]

yeah, but in practice any network message sent by the origin server on player disconnect reaches the target server before joinevent so it kind of works out

though only because it takes some time for the client to reconfigure and talk with the target server before properly joining in

which is kind of unreliable in principle but in practice it works with good enough margins for me to trust it

if it ever develops into a problem, i can always drop and resend some config packets to keep the player in between login and play for as long as i like, making sure the network state is all set

for now though, no need

[echo basalt]

Also @lost matrix your library fails in some cases if there is remote data that isn't locally cached

I'm also changing the thread-safe methods to return futures

Might be worth adding remoteValues and localValues methods as well

[dry orbit]

Is there any way to manually check wether a client is official (not cracked) and currently on a valid auth session with microsoft without needing online mode to be on? (so I'd avoid to require /login for these users)

I already tried keeping online mode to true and preventing kicks via asm (redirecting to login instead), but this really messed up uuids.

[grand flint]

u kept saying bruh

[grand flint]

literally what fastlogin does ..?

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/fastlogin.14153/

bro u speak like an idiot

[young knoll]

?ban @thorny furnace continued racism

[undone axle]

Done. That felt good.

[grand flint]

@molten hearth

[slender elbow]

xDDDDDDDDDD

[grand flint]

LMAO

[young knoll]

Bot are you gonna get those messages?

[grand flint]

dont bro that shit is so funny

[young knoll]

Oh wow it did get them

Just took a while

[grand flint]

also doesnt discord delete it

does it w me sometimes too

[young knoll]

Yes if you ban through discord you can remove messages

But that’s a separate thing

[molten hearth]

WHAT DID I MISS

😡

[hard socket]

how can I check player interactions with display entities if they have no hitbox?

[torn shuttle]

well hey

google refunded me

so I got that going for me

[smoky anchor]

use interaction entity

[sullen marlin]

@torn shuttle what is this code doing? https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-8077

at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_21_R5.CraftChunk.getEntities(CraftChunk.java:127) ~[spigot-1.21.6-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:4518-Spigot-d5ca3f8-98f7fa2]
at com.magmaguy.elitemobs.CrashFix.delayedChunkCheck(CrashFix.java:65) ~[?:?]
at com.magmaguy.elitemobs.CrashFix.onChunkLoad(CrashFix.java:85) ~[?:?]

[torn shuttle]

iirc checks for persistent data containers to check identifiers

as in iterats through entities in the chunk and checks their pdc

[sullen marlin]

so ChunkLoadEvent -> event.getChunk().getEntities()

[torn shuttle]

yeah

is the paste website fixed

[sullen marlin]

ages ago?

[torn shuttle]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[torn shuttle]

https://paste.md-5.net/isujatiroq.java

[sullen marlin]

why would Chunk.isLoaded be returning false during ChunkLoadEvent

[torn shuttle]

🙂

why do chunks unload twice

why do chunks load twice

and why at random

[sullen marlin]

hm? can you repro?

I can't repro

[torn shuttle]

yeah

but very inconsistently

last I verified the issue was a while ago so I don't have any code that has currently verified that for 1.21.8

at this point I no longer design anything to depend on vanilla chunk loading because it will actually double load or double unload at random, messing things up

should be as simple as picking a random non spawn chunk somewhere to track then going to it and away from it repeatedly to see if it's still happening while logging the result

or keeping a set of loaded chunks based on loads / unloads then checking if it ever tries to add something twice or remove something twice

[young knoll]

Aren’t you supposed to access entities in the EntitiesLoadEvent

[torn shuttle]

maybe, this is really old non-critical code

the other stuff I was checking was locations, not entities

I don't like using persitent entities, I make my own

[sullen marlin]

I suspect the issue is more for some reason Chunk.isLoaded is false in ChunkLoadEvent in that stack trace (but not what I can repro)

the ChunkLoadEvent code scares me

[torn shuttle]

yeah it's bad

having used it probably more than most

it's real bad

[worldly ingot]

The world code scares me

[alpine urchin]

you are scared of a digital world?

[bold nebula]

can someone help with this packet? I can't find it in protocollib

[sullen marlin]

It'll be some sort of movement packet

[pliant topaz]

looked at their packettype class, looks like to be PacketType.Client.LOOK

[alpine urchin]

guys, i may have a collaboration planned with dmulloy2

any ideas, a packet debate would be kinda nerdy and lame

[echo basalt]

talk about packet abstractions instead of raw networking

generic wrappers vs your version specific stuff

procotollib's a buggy mess figure out the problems it faces

the real goat is comphenix his bukkit posts still pop up from time to time

[alpine urchin]

link some bukkit posts

[wet breach]

what kind?

[buoyant viper]

we are finally getting protocolevents and packetlib

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[alpine solar]

protocolevents 😭

[placid rivet]

I don't know how to make furnaces to smelt items faster, how can i achieve that in a plugin?

[sullen marlin]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/Furnace.html

See cook time

[woeful sleet]

Hello

guys

@sullen marlin How are u today?

[sullen marlin]

Also, eg, https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/inventory/FurnaceStartSmeltEvent.html

Ok thanks

[mortal vortex]

i tried ur fried egg spice blend btw

was nice

[sullen marlin]

Everything eggs?

[alpine urchin]

im stacking them racks to acquire spigotmc for $1,000,000 SOON™

as unofficially agreed according to my understanding

[remote swallow]

i have a feeling if md ever sells spigot whoever buys it will get so many gdpr requests

[mortal vortex]

yeah from woolies

[young knoll]

Nah I already have a plan for that

(I’m going to invade the EU)

[sullen marlin]

Slay

[mortal vortex]

thanks queen!

[sullen marlin]

I think you can buy it online too, but if you're ever in Melbourne there's this Lebanese supermarket called oasis bakery that has 10/10 duqqa too

Probably even better than the eggs

[mortal vortex]

ill be in melb next week so sure thing

[placid rivet]

thank you

[sullen marlin]

Whatcha doing in Melbourne

[mortal vortex]

I wanted to watch the Annie Musical...

@ the princess theatre

[sullen marlin]

It's a hard knock life

[mortal vortex]

so true

[placid rivet]

that didn't work for me at all

[alpine urchin]

sus md5

[sullen marlin]

What's your code

[placid rivet]

should i use some kind of runnable to set the speed every time, or should i use it once for every furnaces?

[chrome beacon]

Set the cook time in the event

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/inventory/FurnaceStartSmeltEvent.html#setTotalCookTime(int)

[placid rivet]

@EventHandler
public void fasterSmelting(FurnaceStartSmeltEvent e){
int normalCookTime = e.getTotalCookTime();
e.setTotalCookTime(normalCookTime / speedMultiplier);
}

speedMultiplier is 8

i'm not really that good into programming, thought this thing would be easy

[chrome beacon]

that looks correct

Did you register the listener

[placid rivet]

yes

[chrome beacon]

Are you getting any errors

[placid rivet]

not at all

but lemme check one more time

no

nothing

[sullen marlin]

Is the code running

[placid rivet]

well the plugin has some other listeners which work

oh nvm

it doesn't

i'm stupid

didn't check that

oh okay it works

i added some line of code that i thought wouldn't change anything

and it didn't give out any errors in the intellij

thank you guys

[daring light]

Is there a way to get entities in a world that are not loaded?

[young knoll]

Load them

Or do some unholy parsing through the entity NBT files

[brittle geyser]

Who knows how to correctly use @code tag in javadoc here?

 * {@code @Service
 * @Test({LoggerService.class, ConfigLoader.class}) //<- closes here
 * public class DatabaseService {
 *     // ...
 * };
 * }

[robust helm]

how can i bind the server to a different ip in tasks.runServer{} in build.gradle?

[robust helm]

nvm default works

[mortal hare]

i love it when chatgpt just casually stereotyped india in my prompt

[lilac dagger]

you can put classes in annotations?

[slender elbow]

sure

[lilac dagger]

this is actually super useful for my annotation config system