help-development

[grand flint]

well its mostly dark vs light theme

not like theme themes

[kind hatch]

Application first if and when possible, database as fallback

[grand flint]

yeah i think

thats the smartest

if they change it on that application

it saves there

[mortal hare]

I would even say that technically denormalized data doesnt exist. Every data store should be normalized to the context of usage. If its not normalized than means data is useless on its own because it has no context. Thus nosql views for application persistence is normalized to the application logic context, and relation database persistence store would be normalized for generic context acting as a single source of truth for various types of context-specific normalizations

[flint coyote]

Yeah databases should be used as a final guard and shall be built upon some caching layer that acts as an in-memory store. And for most applications you either don't have concurrent (write) access or you are able to circumvent it because you are within a single application instance. Which is precisely the reason I never took the step to use Databases for Minecraft Plugins. A single file per user does the same job since there won't ever be concurrent access as long as you don't mess up your multithreading (if you even need that) and it's simple to cache the usually relatively small amount of playerdata using a hashmap and a data class

I'm sure you can have plugins with a huge amount of data where a database CAN make sense. E.g. LogBlock. But more often than not a (or multiple) flat-file(s) stored in-memory with periodic saving will do just fine.

Just make sure to have backups. The minecraft server exploding would destroy your data when using flat-files. This won't happen with a DB running on a different server. But you could just have an automatic system that grabs the file(s) every day and stores them on another server as well

[potent crescent]

omg too long message

[wet breach]

caching is only necessary if your DB can't handle the amount of queries you are doing

internet these days is really reliable and redundant. But you can implement caching if internet is a concern I suppose

validation does not necessarily need to happen as soon as possible, only really needs to happen for things that need it

[eager arrow]

can someone help me delete my thread

[drowsy helm]

report the thread and a mod will delete it

[eager arrow]

on spigot itself or on discord?

[drowsy helm]

on the forums website

theres a report button

[eager arrow]

alright thank you

[mortal niche]

is there a way i can make it soe parteicles render from farther away

[eternal oxide]

no

[inner marsh]

Anyone helping with BuildTools

i setup BuildTools but i didn't get net/minecraft and bukkit/craftbukkit in my maven

[chrome beacon]

Make sure it's done running and thay you built the right version

And if you're using Mojmaps; that you used the --remapped flag

[inner marsh]

I didn't use promt, I downloaded via the interface, and I didn't encounter any problems, unless the maven part was skipped, but how do you know that :/

[chrome beacon]

The gui has a toggle for the remapped flag

And you can check the log for what it did

[young knoll]

Set the “force” Boolean in the spawnParticle method

[eternal oxide]

I didn't think you could override the client render settings

[potent heron]

How i can edit a plugin Or update it

[mortal vortex]

Can you give a little more context?

Probably by... editing it?

If you have the source then just edit the files.

[young knoll]

It just “suggests” that the client render the particle from farther away

No guarantee on specific client behaviour

I think the vanilla client just renders it as long as the chunk is visible

[mortal niche]

yeah thanks i already goolged it and it told me the same thing

[cinder abyss]

Hello, is there a guide/code example for spawning and editing ItemDisplay with packets (ProtocolLib) ?

[wraith oasis]

is there a way to make block displays appear only for specific player (protocollib) and manipulate them?

[slender elbow]

there sure is

[wraith oasis]

but the question is how haha

[worthy yarrow]

Which part

Appearing for specified players means sending some packets to only specified players, and manipulating the displays means manipulating the displays and then sending some more packets lol

[wraith oasis]

but like, can i move the existing blocks (the blocks that have been sent through packet) or do i need to create new ones

[kind hatch]

I don't think you even need protocollib when we have Player#showEntity & Player#hideEntity

[wraith oasis]

won't there be too much load coming on the server?

[worthy yarrow]

Good question, could look at DecentHolograms and how they do it, I believe they use armor stands and packets, but display entities are easier to work with anyway... given shadows api knowledge is correct, you should just do it through the api

[wraith oasis]

for example there will be like 500 players working with 25 blocks each at one time

[young knoll]

Of course you can move existing entities

[kind hatch]

In theory no, as display entities are much more performant than regular armorstands.

[worthy yarrow]

^

[wraith oasis]

but existing entities on player side

[worthy yarrow]

Entities are server side

[wraith oasis]

i may check it

[young knoll]

You just need the entities internal ID to tell the client which entity your packet is for

[wraith oasis]

i know but the question was can i work with already spawned blocks trough packets for player

[wraith oasis]

i think i will try this first,

[worthy yarrow]

elaborate on spawned blocks

[kind hatch]

If you keep track of them yes

[worthy yarrow]

Like block displays?

[young knoll]

Presumably protocollib already has an api to fetch a free entity id

[wraith oasis]

yea

[worthy yarrow]

Do that, there's no reason to use packets when you can do it through the api

[wraith oasis]

alright thanks for help guys, lets try 😄

[worthy yarrow]

I remember asking why DH hasn't switched to display entities and they said because packets are more performant

As well as complaining that display entities tick, but they don't iirc?

[young knoll]

They can still use display entities with packets?

And yes they do technically tick

[kind hatch]

IIRC, they do internally, but they really shouldnt

[young knoll]

They check if their vehicle is still valid

And that’s it

[worthy yarrow]

Ah

Complex computations man

[kind hatch]

Even then, it's still much more performant than armorstands

[worthy yarrow]

I mean I get the work of an overhaul but still

People complain we don't get modern tools

We get modern tools

People don't use them

[young knoll]

Not much to overhaul tbh

Just changing some packets

[worthy yarrow]

I think another one of their complaints was versioning support, but like you already have the armorstand shit written so...

[wraith oasis]

is there a way to set transparency/opacity of display blocks?

i haven't found a way yet

[worthy yarrow]

I think you may need a custom model, iirc block bench has some opacity config when designing models

[fickle spindle]

hello, the idea of making an homes plugins and a team plugins came to my mind but i don't want to make both in the same .jar i want to make them work one alone of the other but i would love to integrate some stuff of one to the other for example the homes one i want to integrate an item in the gui of the homes that it's the team home how can i make the 2 communicate? (Sorry if it's a stupid question but I'm really new to creating API or whatever can make them communicate)

[alpine solar]

you can use multi modules

multi maven modules

[potent heron]

How can I edit the description of a plugin already uploaded to Spigot? Also, how can I upload a new version? I can use @ to reply to you.

[eternal oxide]

enable 2fa

[potent heron]

@eternal oxide i need 2fa?

[eternal oxide]

yes

[potent heron]

ok

[fickle spindle]

can u explain a bit pls?

[grand flint]

r u on maven or gradle

[fickle spindle]

maven

[grand flint]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/multi-module-maven-setup-for-a-spigot-plugin.673546/

[fickle spindle]

it's the best way for make a stuff like how i said or it's one way?

[grand flint]

dows it better?

[fickle spindle]

idk

[grand flint]

no it doesnt so follow it

[fickle spindle]

okok

ty

[pure dagger]

do i have to a deep copy when i want to return ItemStack[], and make sure outer methods cant edit it ?

like do i just create another one and place all of the contents in loop ?

 public List<ItemStack> getContent() {
        List<ItemStack> clonedContent = new ArrayList<>();
        for (ItemStack itemStack : content) {
            clonedContent.add(itemStack.clone());
        }
        return clonedContent;
    }

[grand flint]

why would that not be editable

u can still edit the list no?

[thorn isle]

Yes, itemstacks are mutable, so a defensive clone of a collection of them must be deep

[pure dagger]

whaat?

i dont wanna outer methods to edit it

read only

so i return a clone

[grand flint]

just return a constant

im so smart

[thorn isle]

Thankfully cloning itemstacks is fairly cheap nowadays

[pure dagger]

??

[pure dagger]

ok but if i have a record with Itemstack and some other fields

do i ...

what do i do

[grand flint]

if u return a constant, then it cant be edited 🧠

[pure dagger]

i think i should override getter in recird

record

[pure dagger]

yeah ..

[thorn isle]

Construct a copy of the record with a clone of the itemstack

[pure dagger]

no noooo

i should just clone it in getter in record

right

[thorn isle]

Ideally not

[pure dagger]

why

the record was supposted to be immutable

[thorn isle]

Shallowly immutable

[pure dagger]

or idk

[thorn isle]

But sure if you want to enforce it to be deeply immutable, do that, but also remember to clone the stack in the constructor, and be aware of any performance impact repeatedly cloning it might incur

[pure dagger]

ooookay

couldnt they make an ImmutableItemStack class?

or smth

or is it stupid

instead of cloning it every time in getter i would just do new ImmutableItemStack(Itemstack) and return that

i could return the same one many times

is that stupid ?

[thorn isle]

It'd be nice if there was an immutable itemstack type yes

[pure dagger]

so you can do it yourself

?

or too complex

[lean pumice]

why there is an error downloading XSeries depdencies?

i am tring to download decentholograms that contains XSeries, but it don't find in https://jitpack.io, but i tink it is in maven

[worldly ice]

i believe it's case sensitive

make sure you have the right caps in groupId and artifactId

[lean pumice]

ye is correct

[worldly ice]

you need caps

(taken from https://jitpack.io/#DecentSoftware-eu/DecentHolograms)

[lean pumice]

is the equal thing (i tried now)

only XSeries doesn't work

[worldly ice]

what is xseries

[lean pumice]

https://github.com/CryptoMorin/XSeries

but... it is in maven

[worldly ice]

send relevant info from pom

[lean pumice]

wait, now i fixed cleaning, installing, and packaging

tnx

[hard socket]

https://paste.md-5.net/exaqugeces.cs
how can I make the motion smoother, I am using a ItemDisplay

[worldly ice]

you could try translating the item display with interpolation instead of tp'ing it but not sure if that's recommended

[young knoll]

You can set the teleport interpolation too

[worthy yarrow]

Make a little bit of a better algo kek

[young knoll]

The default is 0, which means it doesn’t have any interpolation when teleporting

Where most (all?) other entities do

[worldly ice]

oh didn't realize that was a thing

thats neat

[zealous scroll]

what event is called when a player clicks an interaction entity

or are none called

[worthy yarrow]

Should be playerInteractEntityEvent iirc

It should be at least one of the playerInteract events

[forest cobalt]

How to make tickrate of hopppers fast like what settings

ticks-per:
hopper-transfer: 100
hopper-check: 100
hopper-amount: 100 what do i do for this to make it go very fast and collect speed

[zealous scroll]

none of them are fired for interact entities for me

ill debug a bit more

[worthy yarrow]

It's been a little while since i messed with interaction entities, but something is telling me only right clicks are noticed

[zealous scroll]

yeah its a right-click

[young knoll]

It fires a damage event for a left click

And InteractEntity or InteractAtEntity for right click

Don’t remember which

[zealous scroll]

this is not the case

i didnt mean to leave mention on the reply enabled sorry

I tested with both events and both were called for other entities but not interact events

its a problem with nexo, nevermind

[sick hinge]

is there a way to wait a specific amount of seconds, not ticks?
I'm writing a plugin that does potentially expensive operations asynchronously and I want to make sure that if the operation takes longer than a certain number of seconds it is automatically cancelled
I worry that if I use ticks, the operation could cause tps to drop leading to the operation being given more time than it actually should

[worldly ice]

you could create a new thread and use Thread.sleep to sleep a certain number of ms and cancel after that time has passed

though it depends on what you're using for those async operations

for example you can use Future::get with a timeout

[wet breach]

if it is asynch despite its name the server creates a new thread for that task, therefore since that task is in its own thread it should not affect the main thread

using ticks or seconds is not relevant to a timer

[sick hinge]

if the operation is using cpu resources wouldn't it lag the server if it's doing too much?

like, this is noticeable with FAWE for instance

even though I think it does almost everything in other threads

[wet breach]

the only difference is that if you go based on ticks, if the server lags, your task will also be delayed where as if you use seconds then your task will ask to be executed but since server is lagging still may get delayed in executing

[sick hinge]

if I use ticks and the tps drops that means the task (that is potentially lagging the server) gets more time than it actually should

that's what I'm worried about

[wet breach]

depends on your cpu. Most of the time, your server is only using at most a single core, with threads occupying other cores but not necessarily using them fully

[sick hinge]

is using normal jvm threading fine on spigot?

[wet breach]

real world time it would take longer, but this doesn't mean that it was actually doing anything in the server if the server itself is lagging

[wet breach]

sure, what do you think async bukkit tasks are built on top of?

[sick hinge]

I didn't know if there was any oddities with using it

like it could make sense if it has weird behavior on server shutdown etc.

[wet breach]

your only downside is that you wouldn't be able to rely on the bukkit task api if you are handling your own threads

[wet breach]

server forcefully exits if everything does not shut down in a timely manner

as for the whole ticks and seconds part, you should in general rely on ticks though. Because this keeps everything at the pace of the server, where as if you use seconds then you may not necessarily be in sync with the server but some tasks do require this

[sick hinge]

I don't really understand why that matters
when I need to actually get things to the main thread I can just schedule a task

also this is for the purpose of a timeout

[wet breach]

because if the server is going slow you want your task to slow down with it

[sick hinge]

that's not really what I want here

[wet breach]

if you go faster then the server can process, all you are doing is contributing to the problem

I guess you are not quite understanding

[sick hinge]

what I want here is to kill a task when it's taking too long

[worthy yarrow]

The way you’d have to tell time is the same way the server does, so your system is only ever going to be as aware as the server in this case

[wet breach]

then, you need to run your own timer for this, but this whole taking too long is where you are getting confused when the server slows down

when the server slows down, its not that your task is slowing anything down, or that its spending too much time on your task

rather the server as a whole has slowed down

the server will start skipping ticks and it remembers it has done this

if everything gets too slow for too long

[sick hinge]

maybe I misunderstand how the scheduler works
if tps is 10, and I schedule a task for 20 ticks later, will it execute after 2 seconds or 1 second (roughly)?

[worthy yarrow]

21 ticks technically iirc

[wet breach]

you should probably do research on game loops. The tick rate of the server is essentially the game loop and it doesn't necessarily control how fast anything executes per-say especially when it comes to threads, but it does control how fast everything in the game goes

[worthy yarrow]

Task scheduling would take a tick + wtv you define as the delay -> ran every x ticks

[wet breach]

if we are running at 10tps, which is 10 ticks per second, and you schedule something 20 ticks later, then it will execute at the 30th tick.

the server can still count ticks even if it is running slower

in comparison to real world time. It would take 50% longer. So technically if you are measuring with a clock it would take longer to get to that 30th tick at 10tps, then it would at 20tps

but the same amount of ticks would go by before your task executed

20TPS is 50ms just fyi

so if we run at 10tps then we are at 100ms

which in comparison for executing stuff is relatively fast lmao

[sick hinge]

by that you mean mspt?

[wet breach]

or was it 1 tick is 50ms 🤔

[sick hinge]

1s = 1000ms
1 tick = 1/20 s = 1000/20 ms = 50ms

[wet breach]

right so, 1 tick is 50ms, so if we go to 10TPS then, 1 tick is 100ms

[sick hinge]

I mean like, still, not killing a task that is lagging the server after the timeout period (because the server thinks less time has passed) seems like a bad idea

[wet breach]

I think a better thing you should do if you are that concerned is to have a thread separate from everything that keeps track of TPS

if it hits 10TPS or whatever you decide, you can just pause your tasks

until TPS improves

to pause a task you wouldn't cancel, instead you would add in your code a boolean where if its true it would just skip to the end of the method

[sick hinge]

that doesn't really work in my case (tasks are player-submitted, they're going to expect them to be done somewhat soon after submitting a command; I want to make sure that if they do a task that's too large it's killed after a certain timeout)

[wet breach]

this way your task is still there, just waiting.

[worthy yarrow]

This doesn't seem like a very graceful fallback

[wet breach]

then you will need to add in the the task a method that records the time when task starts executing, and then you will need a timer to measure from there how much time has elapsed and if that time has elapsed kill it

[worthy yarrow]

If a task is "too large" then I guess you could split the workload into multiple threads... or just not allow tasks of that size

[wet breach]

at this point it is up to you which time you want it to depend on, that is real world time or in game time

since both are not always in sync

[sick hinge]

I can't predict in advance what will take longer (well, unless someone solves the halting problem that is)

users submit code that may perform actions on the world

[worthy yarrow]

Well what defines a player submitted task? Couldn't you gather enough context from this to decide whether or not it's a heavier load?

[wet breach]

but I think if you implemented a method that would just simply pause a task instead as a first measure it might be better then just outright killing it. Maybe reserve that for tasks tthat are taking like 10 minutes?

[sick hinge]

using a timer is a smarter idea than what I was thinking actually

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah completely killing a task especially as these are player submitted sounds like end user frustration 100% of the time

[sick hinge]

I was thinking to check Thread.interrupted occasionally and have another task run after a timer that interrupts the thread but just checking the timer then instead is definitely better

[wet breach]

you should avoid interrupting a thread

because you could indefinitely suspend a thread on accident this way

[sick hinge]

(tasks really shouldn't take more than like... 5 seconds)

[wet breach]

yeah so after like 2-3 minutes I would kill the task

maybe sooner

[thorn isle]

What now

Are you talking about suspending a thread?

[wet breach]

No, but I did word what I meant to say wrong though

I meant that they should learn how to interrupt a thread properly otherwise you won't be able to interrupt it at all

and thus unless you implemented some way to kill it, the thread runs indefinitely

[ivory sleet]

ye interrupts can get messy if ur undisciplined

[potent heron]

anyone can test mi new plugin
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/staffx.127407/

[grand flint]

Add staff mode it will be better

Why would anyone pick that plugin rather than everything else available

[potent heron]

Because I'll be adding a lot of things to it.
I'll add that when you say bad things in the chat, you'll get an alert, and when you have certain alerts, I'll ban you for 1 hour. Give me ideas, otherwise.

[grand flint]

staff mode is the most important for a staff plugin

but make sure everything is configurable

i dont think u should add a lot of things

just make the things u do add perfect

add minimessage formatting as well

[slender elbow]

add a /dn command

[potent heron]

what?

[potent heron]

what is /dn command?

[thorn isle]

here we go

[slender elbow]

lol

deez nuts

[potent heron]

ok

emily do you crete plugins?

[slender elbow]

sometimes

[grand flint]

add mini message formatting

nobody likes a modern plugin without minimessage

[potent heron]

ok

[thorn isle]

i will die on the § hill

16 colors is perfectly sufficient

[torn shuttle]

man I should've done this a long time ago

[echo basalt]

we just setup proper gradle scripts

[grand flint]

aura

eugh

[torn shuttle]

imagine not having 15 different mc plugins

[grand flint]

literally 🙏

[torn shuttle]

couldn't be me

[grand flint]

same w node modules

[echo basalt]

it auto downloads and stuff

[torn shuttle]

this does something way more useful, it auto symlinks

that's true pog behavior

[echo basalt]

can be achieved with a gradle task

[torn shuttle]

sure

if you're CRINGE

like you

[echo basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-right-emotiguy-right-emoji-right-emoti-right-joecoin-right-gif-15919445577196092049

[torn shuttle]

this is much nicer

[thorn isle]

imagine maintaining compat against more versions than just latest

[torn shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/diesofcringe-gif-24606059

[echo basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-joe-computer-gif-6415300656589330844

[torn shuttle]

damn illusion how'd you grow up to be such a cringelord that doesn't appreciate a proper ui

I guess the universe had to even out after producing a gigachad

[echo basalt]

😔 if only I read elitemobs' src and discovered half the UIs are hardcoded

[grand flint]

elitemobs eugh

mythicmobs

[torn shuttle]

this man wants to be able to customize literally the plugin setup page like modifying what it says would make any sense

[echo basalt]

this guy gets it

make a config generator webpage that links back to the plugin

like

/elitemobs setup

click to open link, set my settings and shit

light/dark mdoe button

press "confirm" and maybe even run a command

[grand flint]

ohh but its by magma so now its good

[torn shuttle]

here's a counter argument

how about just no

it adds nothing

there's only three buttons

[echo basalt]

I forgot you're the guy who refused adventure support because 4 people asked for it

[thorn isle]

i support magmaman because i dislike mythicmobs much more

[torn shuttle]

if I was going to add a feature every time 4 people asked for it I would have to add and support 50443 new features

[grand flint]

ye bc ur a loser

[thorn isle]

nuh

[grand flint]

yuh

[thorn isle]

your mythic dumpster is a dumpsterfire

[grand flint]

mythic has the best plugins no questions asked

[echo basalt]

ah mythic my beloved

[thorn isle]

i can feel my blood pressure rising just thinking about it

[echo basalt]

add a negative space to mythichud and it breaks all kinds of alignment

[torn shuttle]

that's literally all mc gui spacing

[grand flint]

well yeah it calculates the alignment by it self

so negative space fights it

[echo basalt]

not if you do the math proper

[torn shuttle]

then you should do the math numbnuts

[echo basalt]

even if I counterbalanced the thing it still fucked itself up

it literally adds 1px to every character

[torn shuttle]

isn't this a done issue now

[echo basalt]

stupid ass plugin

[torn shuttle]

didn't we get custom uis

with like

1.21.7 or whatever

[echo basalt]

dialog

[torn shuttle]

yeah that

[echo basalt]

buddy thinks mythichud is a deluxemenus alternative

[thorn isle]

it's not a cure-all but it's pretty cool

[grand flint]

the other hud plugin is better

i forgot name

[echo basalt]

betterhud

never got it working proper

[thorn isle]

yeah the whatever hud plugin that isn't part of the mythic ecosystem

[echo basalt]

happyhud used to be separate but then mythic bought it

mythic buys a bunch of shit

private equity firm type shit

[thorn isle]

they are the king midas of shit

everything they touch becomes shit

[echo basalt]

took like 4 months to update to 1.21.4

[torn shuttle]

I remember when songoda did the same thing

[echo basalt]

songoda my beloved

instead of ruining plugins she ruined lives

[torn shuttle]

porque no los dos

[echo basalt]

thought you were fr*nch not a spaniard

[torn shuttle]

imagine being born 5 minutes ago and not even knowing early 2010s memes

[echo basalt]

😔

can you rhyme with vaseline

[torn shuttle]

I'll dunk you in gasoline

[echo basalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxcGaFeu18

[torn shuttle]

that was so bad I feel like you owe me something greater than money

[echo basalt]

BJ at the back of that mcdonalds?

[torn shuttle]

it feels like yu now owe me some kind of spiritual debt

[echo basalt]

close enough

[torn shuttle]

you need to stop putting everything you find in a fast food joint in your mouth

[echo basalt]

😔

[torn shuttle]

anyway we were talking about that dialogue thing

isn't that a better option

[slender elbow]

and miss out on hovers, clicks, keybinds, shadows, fonts...

[torn shuttle]

I haven't looked into it yet

[echo basalt]

it doesn't fill the same purpose

mythichud is about permanent hud elements

dialogs are an alternative to chest UIs

bit like bedrock forms

[torn shuttle]

oh

k

never even really bothred to much with those ui elements

otherwise I'd probably already have made a plugin for it

eh who knows maybe something to add to fmm in a distant future

do dialogues work on bedrock with the same functionality?

or no, or not yet

[echo basalt]

bedrock forms are different to dialogues

bedrock forms can take in pictures and shit

they have a different UI style (and language)

[torn shuttle]

fml

[echo basalt]

lets you do shit like this

[torn shuttle]

why does mojang do this

just make it once and make it universal

[echo basalt]

dialogs are more about this

[torn shuttle]

feels like raw java ui design

[echo basalt]

yup

except it has to be sent in the configuration phase and there isn't much you can do

bedrock UIs can be sent at any time and it's just a big json object

bedrock's protocol is a lot more flexible when it comes to things like these

[torn shuttle]

hm

[echo basalt]

you can just define a new entity and spawn it in

change its hitbox on the fly

and play custom animations

[torn shuttle]

well I can do that one lol

but it took some work

[echo basalt]

happy ghast?

Interaction entities?

bedrock is native

[torn shuttle]

why use interaction entities when you can just scan events instead, it's so much worse!

[echo basalt]

virtual hitbox?

yikes

[torn shuttle]

it's not aabb because aabb is cringe

it's obb

rotates with the entity and can have a different x and z

plus since it's virtual I can customize interaction distances

damn it I have accidentally created a ghost server

I don't even where is htat process

gottem

[slender elbow]

no, dialogs can be inlined

[thorn isle]

oh, neat

i figured there'd have to be some way of doing that or else people wouldn't have it running doom already

[pseudo hazel]

this is pretty close to whats possible in java except for the theming, which would be amazing to be able to customize

[thorn isle]

with enough resourcepack magic you could probably pull it off

what i do find strange is that the far more flexible and exploitable (and more 13-year-old-frequented) bedrock dialogs don't have a huge ⚠️ sign always at the top of the dialog, while java's more gimped and less customizable dialogs do

[young knoll]

You could probably make a fancy theme with font magic

[thorn isle]

this isn't google

[slender elbow]

solution: do not attempt to hide player while disabled

[pseudo hazel]

thats because at java they still kinda care about the game

[thorn isle]

i wish they didn't, in this particular instance

i wonder if we can get rid of it with resourcepack nonsense or if it's hardcoded

[pseudo hazel]

the warning sign is not the biggest issue I have with the dialogs on java

that would be the aforementioned fact that its like a 80% fleshed out system with just being shy of the right amount of customization

[worldly ingot]

It's a starting point

Consider it version 0.1

And remember, this is a dialogue. As in a form. For user input.

[pseudo hazel]

thats true I guess they could be updating it

yes but still

for example it would be nice if we can change the text on the dialog based on like an option the player selects or a value in an input box

[worldly ingot]

Anything with user input should have a warning saying "Look, this is third party, we can't guarantee what this unknown server is going to do with that data". If they don't include that warning, Mojang can be culpable

Liable*, sorry, is the more appropriate word

It's the same reason they have the checkbox when you first open the multiplayer menu

[pseudo hazel]

yeah so they kinda dropped the ball with that for bedrock

[worldly ingot]

Yes, but Bedrock is maintained by Microsoft, so their design decisions are theirs

I think that it too has a third-party server warning though

[pseudo hazel]

yeah I guess the general server warning when you enter multiplayer should be enough though?

or is it because the dialog looks like an actual minecraft menu

[worldly ingot]

Could be that, yeah

[pseudo hazel]

and the warning is also there to prevent softlocks

[worldly ingot]

There's that as well, yes

[pseudo hazel]

with the disconnect ability

[torn shuttle]

what does that even mean

man I need to take a look at this a year from now when over 50% of people are running a server capable of using it

[pseudo hazel]

it means you can do something like /dialog show player {} where {} is the actual contents of the dialog, instead of some link to an existing dialog

and ofc throught the API is the same thing

[slender elbow]

a direct holder rather than a reference holder

you can either register dialogs to the registry with a datapack, which will be sent to the client, and then open them via their resource location, or create them on the spot and send the whole dialog layout every time you want to open them

[sly topaz]

27.7% of servers have them available, as per bstats

so we are not that far away

I am amazed at the amount of people who got stuck at 1.21.4 though

[uncut zodiac]

where should i go/look for a complete beginner

[lean pumice]

how i can avoid this?

then i cancel the interact event

[worldly ingot]

Hasn't that been fixed for a long time now?

I guess you could send a block change one tick after you cancel the event

[worldly ice]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-plugin-development/

[thorn isle]

5 bucks says 1.8

[lean pumice]

i tried but it isn't not working

[thorn isle]

so it's working?

[worthy yarrow]

love double negatives

[young knoll]

I don’t not love double negatives

[worthy yarrow]

kek

[remote swallow]

i dont not love no double negatives

[buoyant viper]

jesus

[ripe depot]

are registered recipes automatically unlocked in the crafting book when you have the materials?

[sullen marlin]

Good question

I don't know though. Maybe try and see?

I know some part of recipes is weirdly advancement based, but might not be unlocks

[fleet pier]

is there a way to play a SPECIFIC cave ambient sound in spigot 1.8.9

there has to be a way right 🥹

[grand flint]

yeah

update to latest

[fleet pier]

ur a funny one

😍

[grand flint]

pretty sure they are defined under a single sound id

so no u probs cant

[fleet pier]

not even through packets?

wild

[grand flint]

no bc its already on the client im pretty sure

if u say please ill double check

@fleet pier

[fleet pier]

please

🥺

[grand flint]

and a kiss

[fleet pier]

💋

mmm

[modest crypt]

⁉️

[grand flint]

rate my new plugin page

ignore the bottom part

[fleet pier]

vulcan not good

so

[grand flint]

who deleted my link

yall r racist

[grand flint]

ye but rate it

[fleet pier]

ill give it a 6

out of 10

[grand flint]

@ivory sleet ik u did it

[ivory sleet]

?

[grand flint]

u deleted my link 💔

[ivory sleet]

ugh it wasnt me this time

[grand flint]

yay

[fleet pier]

[grand flint]

i forgive u then

[fleet pier]

give him a warning for pinging

💔

i gave him a kiss and everything

[grand flint]

ight so

im not checking it

[fleet pier]

and he still didnt answer my question

[grand flint]

while i was mid

checking it

[fleet pier]

well

im waiting

[grand flint]

yeah no

its not even defined, its in a single file

its in ambient.cave.cave

i think its hardcoded icl

[fleet pier]

🌧️

why are we ghost pinging @grand flint

[eternal oxide]

are you trying to play a specific cave sound?

if so use teh play sound method where you can provide an extra value (random or something)

start at 1 and go up one by one untill you get the sound you want

1.8? Nope, send a packet providing a seed to play sound

[young knoll]

It’s just a long

It’s used as the seed on the client

Afaik there’s no nice way to figure out which seed will yield which variation

[austere crow]

why would a plugin not decomplie im using something to decomplie this plugin but when downloading the result it is justa empty zip if i do this same decomplier with a diff plugin it works perfectly

can i do it somehow on intellij cuz i tried just a jar to zip but then i get the .class files not java those are read only on intellij cuz the JD converts them to .java for viewing

[buoyant viper]

today, this poor soul is going to learn about "Obfuscation"

some obfuscators will jumble up the code and purposefully cause most decompilers to crash while attempting to read a class

but still have the code able to run on the JVM

i believe Paramorphism is a prime example of an obfuscator that has this feature

[austere crow]

yes this was a possibility but it wasnt the issue it was actually windows now reading contents switched to non windows computer it worked had to use 7zip not normal to unzip but thx for helping

i dont know why but did i just get the notification for those messages

[buoyant viper]

F

[modest cosmos]

Hey, I'm trying to download Leaderheads, but when I click on the spigot page, it shows me this error

[sly topaz]

maybe you don't have 2fa enabled or something like that

[modest cosmos]

Actually I have 2fa enabled, still not working

[sly topaz]

no idea then

[modest cosmos]

any spigot staff will answer me?

[sly topaz]

they're around usually, but you can also contact the email ig

?support

[undone axle]

[e-mail]

[modest cosmos]

ty, apreciate it

[sullen marlin]

The plugin is long deleted

[modest cosmos]

Is there any other similar plugin that I can use?

[wooden bay]

Topper

[warm scroll]

Does anyone know how to develop a plugin

[sullen marlin]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[warm scroll]

Like I have a mod idea, but I have no clue how to actually code it

[chrome beacon]

Start with getting to know Java

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

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Java Programming and Documentation: A comprehensive collection of Java programming guides, tutorials, and API documentation.
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Community and Support:

Stack Overflow: A vast community of developers. Great for getting help with specific problems or understanding concepts.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/java
r/learnjava on Reddit: Join the community of Java learners and get advice, share resources, and discuss projects.
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Remember: Learning to program takes practice and patience. Don't hesitate to experiment with code and participate in community discussions. Happy coding! 🎉

[warm scroll]

Can I pay someone to dev it for me, I have all the info and all that

[echo basalt]

?services or check pins in #general

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[echo basalt]

Mods and plugins are different things BTW

[warm scroll]

Well I what bedrock access so it has to be set up as a plugin

[potent heron]

that fails?
<dependency>
<groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
<artifactId>Vault</artifactId>
<version>1.7</version>
<scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>
</dependencies>

[chrome beacon]

Did you forget to add jitpack as a repo

[potent heron]

now?
<repository>
<id>jitpack.io</id>
<url>https://jitpack.io</url>
</repository>
</repositories>

<dependencies>
    <!-- Spigot API -->
    <dependency>
        <groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
        <artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
        <version>1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
        <scope>provided</scope>
    </dependency>

    <!-- Vault API -->
    <dependency>
        <groupId>com.github.MilkBowl</groupId>
        <artifactId>Vault</artifactId>
        <version>1.7</version>
        <scope>provided</scope>
    </dependency>
</dependencies>

[slender elbow]

use 1.7.1, and make sure you refresh maven on intellij (little floating maven button)

also it's VaultAPI, not Vault

[potent heron]

@slender elbow

[slender elbow]

did you do the refresh

[potent heron]

oh thanks xd

[wooden bay]

🥄 🍚

[potent heron]

you can try the plugin

[wooden bay]

what you finished it?

[potent heron]

When I finish it, this plugin is a plugin that I've been working on for a few weeks.

[potent heron]

yes

[wooden bay]

you finished faster than me

[potent heron]

but I've been doing it for a month

[keen charm]

👋

When listening to Clientbound packets using NMS, should I do super.write(ctx, rawPacket, promise); for each subpacket in a ClientboundBundlePacket or just do it for the main bundle packet?

[chrome beacon]

just the bundle packet

[dreamy glade]

Hi. Is this the only way to do this or there is a more optimal approach? Thanks

// I want to get the player available slots.
final PlayerInventory playerInventory = oPlayer.getInventory();
int totalEmptySlots = 0;
for (int i = 0; i < playerInventory.getSize(); i++) {
    if (i < 0 || i > 35)
        continue;

    final ItemStack itemInSlot = playerInventory.getItem(i);
    if (itemInSlot == null)
        totalEmptySlots++;
}

[young knoll]

One improvement would be to just use an enhanced for loop on the inventory itself

Inventories are iterable<ItemStack>

[dreamy glade]

I see. Thank you.

[keen charm]

👋

[17:20:03 WARN]: java.lang.IllegalStateException: void future
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.VoidChannelPromise.fail(VoidChannelPromise.java:198)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.VoidChannelPromise.addListener(VoidChannelPromise.java:58)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.VoidChannelPromise.addListener(VoidChannelPromise.java:26)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at ZelHide-1.1.7.jar//com.zeltuv.hide.nms.NMS_v1_21_7$1.write(NMS_v1_21_7.java:81)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite0(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:891)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.invokeWrite(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:875)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.write(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:984)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannelHandlerContext.write(AbstractChannelHandlerContext.java:868)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.DefaultChannelPipeline.write(DefaultChannelPipeline.java:964)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.AbstractChannel.write(AbstractChannel.java:300)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at net.minecraft.network.Connection.doSendPacket(Connection.java:496)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at net.minecraft.network.Connection.lambda$sendPacket$13(Connection.java:476)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.runTask(AbstractEventExecutor.java:173)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.util.concurrent.AbstractEventExecutor.safeExecute(AbstractEventExecutor.java:166)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:472)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.channel.nio.NioEventLoop.run(NioEventLoop.java:569)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$4.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:998)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at io.netty.util.internal.ThreadExecutorMap$2.run(ThreadExecutorMap.java:74)
[17:20:03 WARN]:        at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583)

I'm getting this error when trying to add a listener

                            // Write raw packet for final outcome
                            try {
                                LINE 81 -> promise.addListener(ignored -> Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLaterAsynchronously(plugin, () -> {
                                    // Unlist
                                    if (!player.isOnline()) return;
                                    if (!addedPlayer.isOnline()) return;
                                    unlistPlayer("REMOVE", addedPlayer, List.of(player));
                                }, 10L));
                            } catch (Exception exception) {
                                exception.printStackTrace();
                            }

[hybrid spoke]

see here: https://javadoc.io/doc/io.netty/netty-transport/4.1.63.Final/io/netty/channel/VoidChannelPromise.html#isVoid--
you're using a VoidChannelPromise on which adding a listener is an illegal operation

[keen charm]

public void write(ChannelHandlerContext ctx, Object rawPacket, ChannelPromise promise) throws Exception this is the write method I'm overriding, I didn't specify it to be VoidChannelPromise tho

Is it possible to add a listener somehow?

[hybrid spoke]

a VoidChannelPromise is probably still passed in, since overriding the method doesn't change the parameters passed.
you could try to unvoid it

[grand flint]

did java not get the transfer packet??

[keen charm]

But would it still be linked to the actual promise (aka, would the listener work as expected)?

[hybrid spoke]

that's at least what I would expect, but I'm also just refering to the javadocs. haven't dealt much with netty

[grand flint]

why doesnt this use the transfer packet in java??
https://modrinth.com/plugin/server-redirect

i thought it was but it says the client needs to have the mod installed lmao

[young knoll]

Guess they didn’t feel like changing new versions to the transfer packet

[grand flint]

i cant find a single plugin that does it

wow how fucking nice https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/transferproxy-transfer-packet-proxy.114653/

they made a proxy using the transferproxy

how very smart

if i wanted a proxy

id just use velocity

who made this shit bro 💀

how does this transfer packet work am i just confused

or does nobody bother to make a proper plugin w it

[young knoll]

It just tells the client to transfer to another server

If that server has transfers allowed

[sly topaz]

The transfer packet means transferring the connection out of the proxy, hence why velocity or bungee wouldn’t use it

[young knoll]

You can also do it with a command

/transfer mc.hypixel.net 25565 @a

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017515898870956154.gif?size=48&name=pepe_laugh&quality=lossless

[worldly ingot]

You should run that command on your server

For no reason in particular

[sly topaz]

“Wow this server looks a lot like Hypixel”

[young knoll]

:c

Oh hell yeah minehut has transfers open

Time to modify my ban command

[worldly ingot]

Oh we don't have transfers open lol

Forgot about that

[grand flint]

yeah but like why tf did this guy make his own proxy

based on the transfer protocol LMAO

also can i not transfer from one proxy to another?

[sly topaz]

you can transfer to anywhere, as long as the receiving server has transfers enabled

[sly topaz]

as for why, it might just be some additional server synchronization logic on top of the transfer packet in order to transfer data along

I imagine they use cookies in order to do that

[grand flint]

ye ig but im shocked there isnt a single plugin

[sly topaz]

there's little use for it

when are you ever needing to transfer a player into a different server completely

only person I see loving this is probably minehut

[grand flint]

Proxy updates when you have a multi proxy setup

Or transfer to another network

[tame ibex]

is it possible to add images to scoreboard in older minecraft versions using resourcepack too?

or let me ask this what version starts making it possible

[sly topaz]

I can count the amount of servers with a setup like that with my hand

hence why, it has little use

[sly topaz]

I imagine people do that with font hackery

so whenever custom fonts were added

[tame ibex]

could you tell me when? 🥹

[sly topaz]

1.16

[grand flint]

ye mini servers dont

what about large servers

[sly topaz]

any big server is going to use a custom solution rather than something off the shelf

[grand flint]

duh ik im saying they have a use

[sly topaz]

they might, but even in big servers you don't see this kind of thing due to the way things were before that packet existed

[grand flint]

proxy down -> transfer to another proxy

[sly topaz]

proxies have been made and configured to work without it, so there's little use for it now

[grand flint]

well ye most large servers dont run anything on their proxy anyways

idk though i think its useful asf

[torn shuttle]

the path to make a plugin able to do this was honestly downright stupid

so much god damned effort and work

I could've just made a standalone game

[grand flint]

couldve just downloaded nexo 🙏

what does the plugin do

[lilac dagger]

that's so cool

do chairs work?

[grand flint]

have u never seen nexo 🙏 😭

[torn shuttle]

they will by the time I'm done with it

a lot of work went into making that api be buttery smooth

it uses callbacks

it's very neat

[potent heron]

@slender elbow
Please test my plugin. I've been using it for a week and need feedback.
https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/️randomrain☔️.127459/

[grand flint]

not bad

i wouldve roasted u if u put a global radius

but its a radius around each player

[lilac dagger]

looks really good

[sick hinge]

I'm trying to create a block display entity with protocol lib but I can't figure out how to set the block state (or scale for that matter)
I get that I'm supposed to send an entity metadata packet, but I can't figure out how exactly to do that (I've tried a few things based on the protocol wiki page but none of them seemed to work)
here's my code (kotlin):

// spawn block display entity (this part seems to work)
run {
    val packet = PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.SPAWN_ENTITY)
    // header
    packet.integers.write(0, player.regionEntityId);
    packet.uuiDs.write(0, UUID.randomUUID());
    packet.entityTypeModifier.write(0, EntityType.BLOCK_DISPLAY);
    val box = region.box;
    // position
    packet.doubles
        .write(0, box.start.x.toDouble())
        .write(1, box.start.y.toDouble())
        .write(2, box.start.z.toDouble());
    pm.sendServerPacket(player, packet);
}
// set entity metadata (this is wrong but idk how to fix it)
run {
    val packet = PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_METADATA);
    packet.integers
        .write(0, player.regionEntityId)
    val blockData = WrappedBlockData.createData(Material.BLACK_STAINED_GLASS);
    // throws Field index 0 is out of bounds
    packet.blockData.write(0, blockData);
    pm.sendServerPacket(player, packet);
}

[toxic sage]

Hi, I have a strange issue.
When I add an attribute modifier to a player's max health, their hunger suddenly decreases without any reason.
Here's the code:

String test = "test";
for (Player player : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()) {
    player.sendMessage("add");
    AttributeInstance instance = Objects.requireNonNull(player.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH));
    instance.addModifier(new AttributeModifier(test, 4, AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER));
}

new Scheduler(JavaPlugin.getPlugin(CostumePlugin.class)).later(() -> {
    for (Player player : Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()) {
        player.sendMessage("remove");
        AttributeInstance instance = Objects.requireNonNull(player.getAttribute(Attribute.GENERIC_MAX_HEALTH));
        List<AttributeModifier> list = instance.getModifiers().stream()
            .filter(v -> test.equals(v.getName()))
            .toList();
        list.forEach(instance::removeModifier);

    }
}, 50);

Current: git-Purpur-1632 (MC: 1.18.2)*

• You are running the latest version

I don't really know why this is happening

[potent heron]

thanks

[chrome beacon]

Is it consuming hunger to heal

[slender elbow]

I'll check it out

[potent heron]

Ok

[echo basalt]

The entity metadata packet uses a list of wrapped data values

Writing to blockData isn't the same as writing a data value of type "block data" at a given index

[sick hinge]

what property am I supposed to use then?

[echo basalt]

something like this

you should have a method to get the serializer for block data without having to pass a class

[supple zodiac]

hey

im making a skyblock plugin and im looking for developers to help me

[young knoll]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[hexed robin]

I am making a custom implementation of bungeecord

I have a simple setup
192.168.50.64 is the bungeecord server (ferriscord)
192.168.50.2:25565 is the mc server
192.168.50.2 is the minecraft client

I am stuck when the player tries to join in the game at Joining World
I have attached a log file to show what happens
Am I missing some step regarding connecting the user?
I do not in this example do mojang authentication

Minecraft Server (paper 1.21.8)

[02:46:43 INFO]: UUID of player TRiLON is 9600b880-7c04-4dcc-87f2-491971200012
[02:46:13 INFO]: Disconnecting TRiLON (/192.168.50.2:56864): Took too long to log in
[02:46:13 INFO]: TRiLON (/192.168.50.2:56864) lost connection: Internal Exception: io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: Pipeline has no outbound protocol configured, can't process packet ClientboundLoginDisconnectPacket[reason=translation{key='multiplayer.disconnect.slow_login', args=[]}]```

Any ideas?

If possible someone explain to me what bungee < -- > paper does during connection
Thanks in advance
Tag me please

[buoyant viper]

if ur on paper u should probably use Velocity

[hexed robin]

But I'm making my own, I don't want to use velocity

[young knoll]

Does the minecraft wiki have the login sequence documented like wiki.vg did

?protocol

[undone axle]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_protocol

[young knoll]

Ah yes it does

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_protocol/FAQ#What's_the_normal_login_sequence_for_a_client?

[fleet pier]

did a lot change regarding scoreboards from spigot 1.8.9 to 1.19

[drowsy helm]

considering it's a 7 year difference, i would say yes

[fleet pier]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-gif-20741357

NO GIF PERMS IS CRAZY

[drowsy helm]

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[slender elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-xqcow-embed-fail-no-embed-no-embed-perms-gif-26146774

[fleet pier]

idk whats more embaressing

😭

[mortal vortex]

Gif perms in this server must be purchased, via dming @molten hearth

[buoyant viper]

a lot changed about like. the Whole game

[fleet pier]

talking api wise

clown

for the scoreboards

[echo basalt]

"clown"

chill out

no the scoreboard system is STILL dogshit

also 1.19 was a while ago

[slender elbow]

I was gonna say that scoreboard entries now can have cool display names and score entries, number format etc

but spigot has no API for that

🥸

[sick hinge]

continuation of this; I managed to get to this code

val packet = PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_METADATA);
packet.integers
    .write(0, player.regionEntityId)
packet.dataValueCollectionModifier.writeSafely(0,
    listOf(
        // type = block data
        WrappedDataValue(0, Registry.get(java.lang.Byte::class.java), 14.toByte()),
        // index = block state
        WrappedDataValue(0, Registry.get(java.lang.Integer::class.java), 23),
        // (the block state value)
        WrappedDataValue(
            0,
            Registry.getBlockDataSerializer(false),
            WrappedBlockData.createData(Material.BLACK_STAINED_GLASS)
        ),
        // end sentinel
        WrappedDataValue(0, Registry.get(java.lang.Byte::class.java), 0xFF.toByte()),
    )
);
pm.sendServerPacket(player.player, packet);

but I'm now getting

io.netty.handler.codec.EncoderException: Failed to encode packet 'clientbound/minecraft:set_entity_data'
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Can't find id for 'WrappedBlockData[handle=Block{minecraft:black_stained_glass}]' in map net.minecraft.core.IdMapper@22c8c639

I'm not really sure what that means or how to fix it

[sick hinge]

nvm, I figured it out:

val packet = PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_METADATA);
packet.integers
    .write(0, player.regionEntityId)
packet.dataValueCollectionModifier.writeSafely(0,
    listOf(
        WrappedDataValue(
            23,
            Registry.getBlockDataSerializer(false),
            BukkitConverters.getWrappedBlockDataConverter().getGeneric(WrappedBlockData.createData(Material.BLACK_STAINED_GLASS))
        )
    )
);
pm.sendServerPacket(player.player, packet);

[sly topaz]

what are you trying to do with this

[sick hinge]

create a block display entity that's only visible for one player

(to denote a selected region)

[sly topaz]

you could do that with the API no?

[sick hinge]

I don't believe there's a way to make an entity for solely a single player

I don't want the entity to actually exist in the world

[sly topaz]

you can make an entity, set visible by default to false and then show it to that player specifically

[sick hinge]

(also, I'm in too deep now /j)

[sly topaz]

I see, a lot of people tend to go that route for the same reason actually, we usually just recommend to not do that since it is annoying

[worthy yarrow]

What's the issue with the entity existing?

[sick hinge]

I don't want to have to keep track of what entities are owned by my plugin if I can help it

[worthy yarrow]

Unless you're dealing with thousands or more, I get it but otherwise... ?

[sly topaz]

eh, they're already half-way there, no point in going back now

[worthy yarrow]

Just curious

[sly topaz]

just make sure to spawn the entity every time the player goes out of view distance (unless you're constantly teleporting them nearby)

[sick hinge]

yeah this is my current attitude lol
like doing it that way would've probably been less painful but I already got this far

[worthy yarrow]

There's no probably lol it would have been less pain (.)

Anytime you can use the api, you probably should

[sly topaz]

I wonder if using packetevents would've been easier, I don't know whether their wrappers for entity data are good

I wish this was more actively maintained: https://github.com/CubBossa/ClientEntities/

if it was I would totally recommend people to use that instead

[sick hinge]

honestly I don't think I regret doing it this way because I learned a lot about how minecraft packets work

[worthy yarrow]

It's good to learn for sure, but again less pain is less pain

[sly topaz]

hopefully you just don't have to deal with cross-version support, that's where things start to get annoying

though for block displays I don't think their entity data changed at all since their introduction

oh, that is apparently not true, their block state data had the id 22 in 1.20.1, it became 23 on 1.20.2 onwards

[worthy yarrow]

Were interaction entities released the same version as the other display entities?

[sick hinge]

I am planning on supporting multiple versions and also fabric (but fabric will just render it in mc rather than hacking a block entity to do it so that'll be a lot easier)
for versions without block displays I probably just won't have a region preview

[worthy yarrow]

Perhaps that's where the numerical change came from 🤷‍♀️

[sly topaz]

they were all released in 1.19.4 yeah

[sick hinge]

if it gets painful enough I'll just switch to the "better" approach

[worthy yarrow]

Go have a look at decent holograms, all their stuff is packet based

[sly topaz]

if it is just a block hologram, you could use an invisble armor stand in older versions

[sick hinge]

yeah but I don't really feel like doing that

[sly topaz]

as long as you don't do any fancy transformations, it works

[sick hinge]

also I don't think that would work

because I am doing scaling

[sly topaz]

reminds me when people would just use entities of different sizes to do scaling of that kind

display entities were truly a godsend for server-side mods/plugins as well as vanilla

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah but interaction entities don't throw events for all types of player interactions D:

Only right clicks smh

[sly topaz]

they throw for both

damage for left click, interact for right click

[worthy yarrow]

I can't say for sure, I remember a couple of people having issues with them and their supposed thrown events

Yk I actually just made an event tracing system for debugging, I could test that rn

[sly topaz]

I mean, it is part of their entity data

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Interaction#:~:text=[NBT Compound / JSON Object] attack%3A The last attack (left click) to hit the entity

[worthy yarrow]

I'm speaking from other's experience so again I cannot say for sure

I just know I tried helping a couple times lol

[sly topaz]

people do get a bit confused when it doesn't trigger the interact event with left click given it is called an "interaction" entity and not a "hitbox"

[worthy yarrow]

Funny you say that because that was my fix.. adding a hitbox lol

But this only worked for intersecting entities, ex: shooting an arrow at it

I ended up breaking arrows with that actually

[sly topaz]

oh, I don't think it fires for interaction with anything other than players

so if that's where people are getting stumbled then it's more understandable

I think the packet fires regardless but I am not completely sure, the events definitely do not

[worthy yarrow]

I need to implement this filter better for the event tracer

String simpleName = event.getClass().getSimpleName();
        return !simpleName.equals("EntitiesLoadEvent")
                && !simpleName.equals("AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent")
                && !simpleName.equals("PlayerPreLoginEvent")
                && !simpleName.equals("PlayerLoginEvent")
                && !simpleName.equals("ChunkLoadEvent")
                && !simpleName.equals("EntityAirChangeEvent")
                && !simpleName.equalsIgnoreCase("GenericGameEvent")
                && !simpleName.equalsIgnoreCase("BlockPhysicsEvent")
                && !simpleName.equalsIgnoreCase("ChunkUnloadEvent")
                && !simpleName.equalsIgnoreCase("PlayerMoveEvent");

Best way to filter right here kek

Also oddly enough, when AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent is traced by this system, the player cannot log in

Doesn't get past encryption and just times out

[drowsy helm]

What the frick

Use a for loop bruh

[worthy yarrow]

Yeah duh

Was gonna have two kinds of filters -> filter in/out kinda thing

I still need to implement support for custom events

[echo basalt]

just use a set

[bold nebula]

anyone know how to send this packet to the player?

[worthy yarrow]

I am now

[pseudo hazel]

reflection 💀

why are you filtering events like this

[worthy yarrow]

Bc bukkit doesn't expose a collection of events

[pseudo hazel]

but why would you need this

[worthy yarrow]

Debugging event driven systems

[pseudo hazel]

yeah but like, why not listen to the events

[worthy yarrow]

I mean I am... all of them

[pseudo hazel]

why, if you are hardcoding the if check for it, why not just listen to the ones you need

[worthy yarrow]

bc that was just annoying events being thrown when you load in, also it's fixed now anyway

public class TracedEventConfig {

    private final Set<String> enabled = ConcurrentHashMap.newKeySet();
    private final Object lock = new Object();

    public void enable(String name) {
        this.enabled.add(name);
    }

    public void disable(String name) {
        this.enabled.remove(name);
    }

    public boolean isEnabled(Event event) {
        return this.enabled.contains(event.getClass().getSimpleName());
    }

    public boolean isEnabled(String name) {
        return this.enabled.contains(name);
    }

    public Set<String> getEnabled() {
        synchronized (this.lock) {
            return new HashSet<>(this.enabled);
        }
    }

    public void toggle(String name) {
        synchronized (this.lock) {
            if (this.enabled.contains(name)) {
                this.enabled.remove(name);
            } else {
                this.enabled.add(name);
            }
        }
    }

    public void loadFromFile(Path path) throws IOException {
        synchronized (this.lock) {
            this.enabled.clear();
            if (!Files.exists(path)) return;
            try (Stream<String> lines = Files.lines(path)) {
                lines.map(String::trim)
                        .filter(s -> !s.isEmpty())
                        .forEach(this.enabled::add);
            }

        }
    }

    public void saveToFile(Path path) throws IOException {
        synchronized (this.lock) {
            Files.createDirectories(path.getParent());
            Files.write(path, this.enabled, StandardOpenOption.CREATE, StandardOpenOption.TRUNCATE_EXISTING);
        }
    }
}```

[sudden plaza]

I'm not very familiar with network programming or how a Minecraft server works, and I want to know if players can hack my server by obtaining an item from their inventory by simply sending a network packet to obtain the item.

[eternal oxide]

Sneaky buggers are hackers, but generally they exploit dupe bugs in plugins to obtain items

[pseudo hazel]

you cant cheat in items by just telling the server you have them, that only works in creative xD

[sudden plaza]

But a player on the server gets an item in one way or another, and it doesn't have to be in creative mode. What prevents him from sending a network packet that he receives, for example, when he gets a drop from a mob?

[pseudo hazel]

well, the server determines what the mob drops

the client cant really invent items or pull them out of thin air, as they would probably be ignored by the server and other players

atkeast I assume thats what happens in vanilla

[worthy yarrow]

If anything when an interaction occurs involving whatever they managed to get would just be removed by the server

The client doesn't handle lifecycles of items and what not so

[pseudo hazel]

yeah the server controls what items a player has

[worthy yarrow]

And that's assuming they were even able to "spawn" anything in with a packet

Which I don't think is even possible?

If so like steaf said it at least wouldn't be recognized by anything other than the client who sent the packet

[sudden plaza]

Does this mean that the server doesn't accept item acquisition packets from the client at all? Does the server calculate the drop itself and then send a network packet to the client?

[pseudo hazel]

yes

[worthy yarrow]

Yes

The server handles lifecycles of all in game objects you could say

[pseudo hazel]

the client is just able to display the state of the server essentially

[worthy yarrow]

Don't get me wrong the server trusts the client too much but not like that lol

[pseudo hazel]

and request changes

if the client could spawn in items with a packet, there would have been big problems already xD

[worthy yarrow]

That'd be what we in the biz call "f'ed in the a"

[buoyant viper]

minecrafts networking is pretty server authoritative, it only gets funky when the client is in Creative Mode

[sudden plaza]

Are there any people here with Rostelecom wifi?

[mortal vortex]

Rotschild Wifi? yeahp

[sudden plaza]

Rostelecom is russian provider. It's just that there are people from Russia with this provider. I wanted to ask them why the ports aren't opening if everything is done correctly

[mortal vortex]

yes i use rotschild wifi

[sudden plaza]

rotschild and rostelecom is different providers

[mortal vortex]

ohh sorry

I use Rotschild Wfii

[slender elbow]

creative mode :despair:

[worldly ingot]

[grand flint]

bedrock ah exploit

[sullen canyon]

which ports?

[misty ingot]

public Order getOrder(UUID orderID) {
        for (Order order : playerOrders) {
            if (order.getOrderID().equals(orderID)) {
                return order;
            }
        }
        return null;
    }

so i have this method that gives me an Order object from a list
Order myOrder = getOrder(orderID);

if i were to make changes to myOrder through methods i built into that object, would the changes reflect in the list or would i have to put the object with changes back into the list myself

[thorn isle]

if you get the object from the list and then change that object, then by definition the object you're changing and the object in the list are the same object

[manic delta]

Yes

[thorn isle]

and so any change you make on one object is reflected in the list because there is only one object

[eternal oxide]

Java is pass by reference not by value

[fossil nacelle]

Can someone help me, I just want to delete the starter kit that people in my server get from the Essentials Kit when the player drops the items or dies

[misty ingot]

for some reason my brain knows this but still manages to convince itself that java is pass by reference only when it feels like it is

either way, good to know

[manic delta]

Delete it from config?

[eternal oxide]

I'm the same

[misty ingot]

iirc you can also disable starter kit from the main essentials config

[fossil nacelle]

I want people to get it still just don’t want it all over the ground when players die

[manic delta]

Probably there is a option for that

[fossil nacelle]

I can’t figure out where

[manic delta]

Just control + f and type "kit"

Also #help-server for that issue

Here is for plugin dev

[fossil nacelle]

Alright

Thanks

[sudden plaza]

Any

[young burrow]

Hello, is there a way to remove the first person item bounce animation when changing its nbt? on 1.21.8

[slender elbow]

yeah there was some way using a resource pack

[thorn isle]

you can try suppressing the slot change packet if you didn't make any outwardly visible nbt changes

the client will update it when next interacting with it somehow, without the animation iirc

if you want to change like the name or something outwardly visible, dunno

[young burrow]

What's was the way?

[slender elbow]

i can't remember

[young burrow]

Aww, thanks for the answers though

[slender elbow]

aha!

@young burrow https://minecraft.wiki/w/Items_model_definition

hand_animation_on_swap

[young burrow]

Oooooh, thank you so much!

[slender elbow]

and you can use the specific item model on an itemstack with the item_model component

[young burrow]

Thx!

[pastel axle]

So, I'm trying to work around an 11 year old vanilla bug where if you Ctrl+Middle click a block, in this case a populated Chiseled Bookshelf, when you place it back down it temporarily (until modified) loses its blockstate data.

I've verified I can see the items that are "meant" to be in it in the ItemStack in the user's hand using getItemMeta().getAsComponentString(). What would be the right way to read the data? Or will I have to manually parse the string (with the expectation it will probably break every release)?

[alpine solar]

Is there a way to prevent arrows from getting stuck to an item frame?

[eternal oxide]

ProjectileHitEvent probably. Check if its an arrow and its hitting a frame, then cancel

are you canceling the hit event or removing the arrow?

[alpine solar]

oh wait

wrong channel

[echo basalt]

Bukkit.getItemFactory

[potent heron]

How can I create a plugin that costs money? I don't want to do it, but I want to know.

[echo basalt]

release it as a premium plugin on spigot

few rules here and there

[potent heron]

i cant look

[pastel axle]

I... don't see how this helps. Isn't this just a way to create ItemMeta?

[echo basalt]

It has a parse method

[pastel axle]

I assume you mean createItemStack(str)?

[echo basalt]

something like that yeah

[pastel axle]

that just returns an itemstack, which I have

[kind hatch]

?premium

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/premium-resource-guidelines.31667/

[echo basalt]

Ah

Then yeah you can get the data off the meta

print out the itemmeta class and go from there

[unreal sundial]

can someone help me turn .jar file back to the src folders etc

[alpine urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

@unreal sundial welcome to reverse engineering

[unreal sundial]

😎

[alpine urchin]

which jar is it

[unreal sundial]

You want me to send it?

[alpine urchin]

no

what project is it

[unreal sundial]

Its a polish one you dont know it

[alpine urchin]

well

are you a dev

[unreal sundial]

no

[alpine urchin]

do you want to edit something

in the “source”

to make a new jar

[unreal sundial]

no why

Isn’t that just stealing

[alpine urchin]

whats the point of having source

if its not to modify something

[unreal sundial]

I haven’t ever made no plugins so I want to see inside of it

how the code looks and folders etc

Could be any plugin really

[alpine urchin]

then learn from open source plugins

i don’t think you should tackle reverse engineering and learning how to code

at the same time

[unreal sundial]

what’s that?

[alpine urchin]

it has a pretty long definition, but for your sake, they openly share the source code

with you

that’s one of the benefits of Open source software (OSS)

[unreal sundial]

so they’re free to use?

[alpine urchin]

usually yes

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/list-of-open-source-plugins/

[potent heron]

what fails

[unreal sundial]

Tysm

[alpine urchin]

i suggest you also watch a series

to learn

some plugins can be a bit challenging to understand if you’re a beginner

[pastel axle]

The problem is dumber than I thought. the block NBT is already correct, it contains the books, but the block state doesn't accurately reflect the block data. Refreshing (via update or via clone and set) either of them doesn't fix it. Am I going to have to spoof an interact event by re-applying one of the books?

[alpine urchin]

how can a problem be “dumb?”

https://tenor.com/view/robot-ai-robot-ai-meme-ai-meme-gif-509507551361818171

[pastel axle]

Through the power of "I'm dumb and so is the missing event" 😂

[alpine urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-ping-me-ever-mysteriousmrenter-mrenter-themysteriousmrenter-dog-gif-1807032614263527205

[pastel axle]

Ok but thank you for making packetevents, it's very useful 🙂

[alpine urchin]

i was trolling

but

if you need help and i have time i can attend to yiu

thanks for the support matt, it means a lot

[grand flint]

got ur modrinth page on the spigot page of vulcan as well

have u seen the updated page

[broken heron]

Hi everybody

Regarding Dialogs,
I was wondering to what extent the Bukkit API has started implementing this system. I did some research in the Bukkit documentation, but aside from two methods — showDialog and clearDialog — I didn’t find much. In particular, I found no system for registering new dialogs from within a plugin, and to make things more uncertain, both methods are tagged as @experimental.

Should I assume that this feature is still under development and more support will be added soon?
Is it too optimistic to think that we’ll be able to easily create dialogs directly from a Java plugin in the near future?
Or did I possibly miss some methods/features in the documentation and it's already possible to do all this — I just overlooked the relevant information?

In the case that this isn’t currently possible — or might never be, for various reasons — Would it be possible to retrieve user input from a datapack-defined dialog inside our plugin code?
Conversely, could we send variables from the plugin to the dialog to dynamically adjust the content, even though the dialog itself is defined statically in the datapack?

[thorn isle]

i hear adventure fully supports dialogs already

[chrome beacon]

Adventure supports Dialogs yes

but so does Spigot

[chrome beacon]

Spigot shares it's Dialog implementation with Bungeecord. You'll find more information about them in the Bungeecord Javadoc

https://ci.md-5.net/job/BungeeCord/ws/dialog/target/apidocs/index.html

[thorn isle]

bungee's implementation doesn't support items, or does it?

[chrome beacon]

Not sure

[broken heron]

thanks, so I need to have bungeecore in my plugin dependencies to use these features..
register Dialogs from bungeecore API and open/clear from Bukkit API ?

[chrome beacon]

That will be included when you depend on Spigot

There is no need to depend on it separately

[thorn isle]

i recall it being brought up here and i think it was an issue with bungee not having the bukkit classes like itemstack on the classpath/as a dependency, so it physically can't declare dialog api methods that do anything with itemstacks

[chrome beacon]

that is true

but there are item hover components, no?

[broken heron]

hmm ok thx u, i going to do some tests about that

[thorn isle]

no clue how that works, never used bungee

[worldly ingot]

The item hover events use raw item data strings

I had attempted to add an interface for BungeeCord to accept and have Bukkit ItemStacks implement it so you could pass them seamlessly, it just never went anywhere

[raw haven]

Hi is there any boilerplate project to create a plugin ?

[thorn isle]

there is an intellij addon that creates a plugin project with all the resource and maven boilerplate

[chrome beacon]

The Minecraft Development Plugin for Intellij comes with one. There are also plenty of maven archetypes (or you can make your own)

[misty ingot]

[20:08:20 INFO]: [org.mongodb.driver.cluster] Exception in monitor thread while connecting to server 37.27.174.75:15575
java.lang.IllegalStateException: zip file closed
        at java.base/java.util.zip.ZipFile.ensureOpen(ZipFile.java:846) ~[?:?]
        at java.base/java.util.zip.ZipFile.getEntry(ZipFile.java:338) ~[?:?]
        at java.base/java.util.jar.JarFile.getEntry(JarFile.java:517) ~[?:?]
        at java.base/java.util.jar.JarFile.getJarEntry(JarFile.java:472) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.findClass(PluginClassLoader.java:209) ~[folia-api-1.21.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:593) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass0(PluginClassLoader.java:169) ~[folia-api-1.21.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader.loadClass(PluginClassLoader.java:164) ~[folia-api-1.21.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at java.base/java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:526) ~[?:?]
        at HypingOrders-1.0-BETA-all-1753898478979.jar/dev.siliqon.hypingorders.lib.mongodb.internal.connection.DefaultServerMonitor$ServerMonitorRunnable.lookupServerDescription(DefaultServerMonitor.java:234) ~[HypingOrders-1.0-BETA-all-1753898478979.jar:?]
        at HypingOrders-1.0-BETA-all-1753898478979.jar/dev.siliqon.hypingorders.lib.mongodb.internal.connection.DefaultServerMonitor$ServerMonitorRunnable.run(DefaultServerMonitor.java:159) ~[HypingOrders-1.0-BETA-all-1753898478979.jar:?]
        at java.base/java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583) ~[?:?]

ehm.. what did i do wrong?

[thorn isle]

mongobongo went bonkers

[misty ingot]

so its not my fault?

[thorn isle]

did you reload something?

[echo basalt]

boys why the fuck is my VANILLA client yellow

[alpine urchin]

How tf is it being “bound to PacketEvents” a disadvantage

[thorn isle]

sometimes mine turns black

[alpine urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-funny-cant-believe-lebron-james-gif-11974292

[echo basalt]

and it crashes once in a while

[shy junco]

I have this Velocity plugin code that sends a packet to my Fabric mod:

public void onLogin(LoginEvent event) {
    WrapperLoginServerPluginRequest request = new WrapperLoginServerPluginRequest(1, CHANNEL, new byte[0]);
    logger.info("Sending token request to player " + event.getPlayer().getUsername());
    
    PacketEvents.getAPI().getPlayerManager().sendPacket(event.getPlayer(), request);
}```

The mod receives it:

```ClientLoginNetworking.registerGlobalReceiver(HANDSHAKE_CHANNEL, this::handleHandshake);

private CompletableFuture<PacketByteBuf> handleHandshake(
        MinecraftClient client,
        ClientLoginNetworkHandler handler,
        PacketByteBuf buf,
        Consumer<ChannelFutureListener> responseSender) {
    
    try (FileReader reader = new FileReader(TOKEN_FILE)) {
        String token = readToken(reader);
        PacketByteBuf responseBuf = prepareTokenResponse(token);
        return CompletableFuture.completedFuture(responseBuf);
    } catch (IOException e) {
        LOGGER.error("Error reading token", e);
        return CompletableFuture.failedFuture(e);
    }
}```

But I don't understand how to receive the response from the client mod in my plugin.

[chrome beacon]

Sounds like a question for the Paper discord

Also why are you using PacketEvents for that? Velocity has api for sending them

(And recieving them)

[shy junco]

this not work for login packets

[slender elbow]

yes it does?

https://jd.papermc.io/velocity/3.4.0/com/velocitypowered/api/proxy/LoginPhaseConnection.html#sendLoginPluginMessage(com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.messages.ChannelIdentifier,byte[],com.velocitypowered.api.proxy.LoginPhaseConnection.MessageConsumer)

but i don't think the LoginEvent is the correct event for this

[misty ingot]

for (Order order : playerOrders) {
            plugin.getLogger().info(order.getOrderID().toString());
            if (order.getOrderID() == orderID) {
                plugin.getLogger().info("1");
                return true;
            }

the first getlogger line prints the same string as orderID.toString()
true is never returned

what.

(orderID is a UUID)

its equal but i am being told its not

[thorn isle]

don't use == on strings if that's what you're doing

== isn't equality, it's identity

.equals() is equality

[misty ingot]

mother-

[thorn isle]

IDE's should warn you about this

[shy junco]

Why? I coded the auth plugin on Fabric with a backend on Velocity. Which event should I use then?

[slender elbow]

PreLoginEvent I presume?

you might need to make use of the continuation/async event API is velocity to prevent the login process from continuing until your response packet arrives

[young knoll]

Did you feck up a core shader?