help-development

[buoyant viper]

but also for API u dont need buildtools

and most plugins built earlier will probably just work™*** on newer server versions

[dapper walrus]

the issue is that i cant compile because i need an outdated api

it seems im looking for 1.7.2 since shampaggon states its support starting on that version

[buoyant viper]

on spigot its support range states 1.7-1.21

hmm

D: no boobs?!

[young knoll]

Yeah the source for 1.7 and earlier got nuked by the DMCA

[dapper walrus]

i hope it compiles with 1.8.8

[torn shuttle]

you know what's crazy

I've been doing this for years

I still can't remember which one comes first, player join event or the other one

[buoyant viper]

i think im gonna need to rewrite my entire logging system for my bt gui

and by that i mean make a significantly WORSE version of java.util.Logger

[torn shuttle]

also I need a sanity check

I got a negative review on spigot because I am sending resource packages on the player join event

is this not exactly what minecraft does

because the dude is saying players are failing to get the rsp because I am sending it "too early"

am I crazy?

[pastel axle]

I call it on the PlayerJoinEvent and also have had zero issues

[drowsy helm]

What not use something like logback instead

[buoyant viper]

because i hate myself

and love to reinvent the wheel in the worst ways imaginable

[drowsy helm]

Ive had 0 issues with it

[dapper walrus]

why not running it later? maybe a tick

[short pilot]

Tried making this config file, but it looks like on first run, the config only generates on shutdown and without the comments any help

Then subsequent runs will generate with the comments as expected

fun generateDefaultConfig(config: FileConfiguration) {
    config.options().setHeader(
        listOf(
            "--------------------------------------------------",
            "Happy Ghast vanilla friendly plugin by DerexXD",
            "Report all ur troubles at the link below!",
            "coming soon",
            "--------------------------------------------------"
        )
    )
    config.setComments(
        "base-speed", listOf(
            "By default only riding a happy ghast will boost its speed; dismounting will return it to normal",
            "Speed used for the Happy Ghast (attribute:flying_speed base in vanilla mob stats)"
        )
    )
    config.addDefault("base-speed", baseSpeed)
    config.setComments(
        "default-speed", listOf(
            "Speed used for the Happy Ghast when not mounted (attribute:flying_speed base in vanilla mob stats)"
        )
    )
    config.addDefault("default-speed", defaultSpeed)
    config.setComments(
        "always-affect-tamed-ghasts", listOf(
            "If the increased speed should happen always (not only when a player is riding the Happy Ghast)"
        )
    )
    config.addDefault("always-affect-tamed-ghasts", affectHarnessOnly)
    config.setComments(
        "affect-untamed-happy-ghasts", listOf(
            "If the plugin should make untamed Happy Ghasts faster too"
        )
    )
    config.addDefault("affect-untamed-happy-ghasts", affectAll)
    config.options().copyDefaults(true)
}

fun load(plugin: JavaPlugin) {
    val config = plugin.config
    baseSpeed = config.getDouble("base-speed", 0.17)
    defaultSpeed = config.getDouble("default-speed", 0.05)
    affectAll = config.getBoolean("affect-untamed-happy-ghasts", false)
    affectHarnessOnly = config.getBoolean("always-affect-tamed-ghasts", false)
}

[rotund ravine]

Is this for a config.yml?

Just use saveDefaultConfig and have the comments already in the config

I know spigot is iffy about comments

[short pilot]

makes me head hurt sometimes

[worldly ice]

from the README it looks like you just have to clone the repo, run compileSpigotVersions.sh then mvn package

iirc the built .jar should be in the target/ dir

[ripe depot]

how do i convert from net.md_5.bungee.api.chat.TextComponent to net.minecraft.network.chat.Component?

[smoky anchor]

Better question, why do you need this ?
If you're already working with NMS just use NMS from the start

[drowsy helm]

Adventure >>

[ripe depot]

i'm not working with nms

my whole code is built on TextComponent

but i need to send an inventory title change

[ripe depot]

how would i convert using this?

i need to preserve colours, styling, nested components/extras and fonts

[drowsy helm]

Adventure has an nms serializer

[eternal oxide]

just reopen the inventory to change its name

[ripe depot]

ok this works

[acoustic galleon]

if i shade a plugin with @onenable

then onenable from this shaded plugin will be executed?

[eternal oxide]

no

only the class which is specified in the plugin.yml

[acoustic galleon]

on shaded plugin?

[eternal oxide]

only the class that is specified in the plugin.yml in the root of YOUR plugin

[acoustic galleon]

oh yes then main class from shaded plugin

will be completely ignored

then should i remove the shaded plugin on soft-depend right

[eternal oxide]

you shoudl not shade another plugin at all

[acoustic galleon]

packetevents is a plugin

[eternal oxide]

you depend in it but don;t shade it

[acoustic galleon]

why?

many ppl shade packetevents

like grimac

[eternal oxide]

if it is a plugin it is independant

[acoustic galleon]

u dont know packetevents?

im saying packetevents is a plugin bc they have @onenable

but is likely an api

[eternal oxide]

it HAS an API its its own plugin

[acoustic galleon]

what should i shade?

packetevents-api?

[eternal oxide]

its a standalone plugin

[acoustic galleon]

then can i shade?

[eternal oxide]

I already said noi

[young knoll]

You can

[eternal oxide]

you should have it ON your server as its own plugin. Do NOT shade it

[young knoll]

Or at least you used to be able to

[eternal oxide]

well you could shade but that is the incorrect way to use it

even its own documentation shows you not to

its scope is "provided"

[young knoll]

https://github.com/retrooper/packetevents/wiki/Shading-PacketEvents

[eternal oxide]

well, later it seems they say you can shade it

as its a plugin I would not

Read its documentation it shows you how to use it. It even shows code examples of how to initialize it

[acoustic galleon]

https://prnt.sc/BW5ow4tUyY_P

i have 2 plugin.yml

this is normal?

[eternal oxide]

no

do nto shade if you do not understand it

if you shade you must relocate

[acoustic galleon]

i alr did

and I don't understand your analogy either. everything has its first time

even more gradle/maven

[tough ember]

Hello how can j remove my account?

[grand flint]

u have to write an apology letter for creating one

[thorn isle]

i prefer sending it on the authme login event, as players with slow connections/poor hardware can time out from /login if the pack takes too long to download/reload assets

but yes it should work on the playerjoinevent

[young knoll]

You can send packs in the config phase too

Which will make them load before the player actually loads into the world

But I don’t really know how to do so

[pure dagger]

Is ChatColor deorectaed

?

[young knoll]

No

[grand flint]

if ur using paper yeah it will say that

[pure dagger]

Oh oky

[potent crescent]

This "Thread Status: Awaiting moderation before being displayed publicly." How much its take time?

[tender shard]

these shitty inlay hints are getting more and more broken in every new IJ version

[lilac dagger]

i have them disabled

all they do is push my code out of the recommended length

[thorn isle]

i like to keep my variable/parameter names consistent since that makes them disappear

there's a setting somewhere to hide the parameter name hints if the variable/expression you're passing has the same name as the parameter

[lilac dagger]

there's a setting for it?

[thorn isle]

there are a bunch of settings for the hints somewhere

no clue where

i adjusted them once like 5 years ago and then never touched them afterward

you can have like regex patterns for class/method/parameter names you don't want hints for and shit

[lilac dagger]

i found them

[azure zealot]

Disable that shi

[echo basalt]

stop updating ij

ez fix

[worldly ice]

Looks like they setup their modules incorrectly? Try changing the version in the parent pom to 2.3.0-FOX instead of 2.3.1-FOX

[tacit coral]

Does the tablist render colors differently? I have a hexcode and when its in chat its the right color but in tab it gets changed to a different color?

[chrome beacon]

how are you setting the color in tab?

[tacit coral]

Using the adventure api -

private static final LegacyComponentSerializer SERIALIZER =
            LegacyComponentSerializer
                    .builder()
                    .hexColors()
                    .hexCharacter('#')
                    .character('§')
                    .useUnusualXRepeatedCharacterHexFormat()
                    .build();

String header = SERIALIZER.serialize(Component.text("Header", TextColor.fromHexString("#E03C31"), TextDecoration.BOLD)

[wind jacinth]

Not the minecrat riding

[grand flint]

anvil

@wind jacinth

[wind jacinth]

thank you

[grand flint]

its anvil place or fall something liek that

its when an anvil falls onto the ground i think

then u need to adjust the pitch cuz that sounds very low pitch

[wind jacinth]

place and fall sound the same

yeah its just a very low pitch

[violet dagger]

I need help, i have znpc on my second world (i made spawn on it) and i want to make it rtp on main world when u click it

[chrome beacon]

#help-server

[violet dagger]

When i click it random tp me to that spawn world

Ih

Oh

[potent crescent]

How long will it take?

[chrome beacon]

until a moderator has time

so soon(tm)

[eternal oxide]

about treefiddy

[potent crescent]

alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr alr

[sage patio]

i didn't see that while publishing resources, is it new?

or threads

[winter jungle]

Item item = overNPC.getWorld().dropItem(iconLocation, itemStack);
item.setPickupDelay(Integer.MAX_VALUE);
item.setVelocity(new Vector(0, 0, 0));
item.setGravity(false);
item.setCustomName("NO_PICKUP");
item.setCustomNameVisible(false);
item.setTicksLived(Integer.MAX_VALUE);

Someone has a idea why my item still disappears after some time?

[worthy yarrow]

I think we need more code, but why not just use an item display?

actually .setTicksLived may be the issue, this sets the entities age rather then a period of time it should be around for

[winter jungle]

Because an item display does not have the “Dropped” animation

[worthy yarrow]

Not too sure why that'd exactly cause it to be removed though, perhaps some internal cleaning for entities that have definitely been around for too long... Integer.MAX_VALUE will return you like 200 years or so

[winter jungle]

I only added #setTicksLived later, before that it didn't work either

[worthy yarrow]

Well you could still use an item display and world.DropNaturally() after some time if that's teh goal

[winter jungle]

I could have a look at how DecentHolograms does it.

[worthy yarrow]

They're all packet based with armor stands

But spigot gives us display entities now

It'd be something like this I assume:

Wow

really not gonna embed

[pseudo hazel]

mkv never embeds in discord

[worthy yarrow]

fuckin obs man

wonder why it defaults to mkv

[pseudo hazel]

torture

[winter jungle]

Well but this is static, but I need this dropped animation

[worthy yarrow]

You can just simulate that with transformations of the display entity

Little extra work

[winter jungle]

it won't look as good as the original one

[worthy yarrow]

I mean

It's not like they're using some secret math techniques interally

[eternal oxide]

easily done with displays. I posted code a while back to do this

[worthy yarrow]

I wonder if block displays have a way to induce that animation

[winter jungle]

time to install mcp to get the official calculation from the game lmao

[eternal oxide]

I even did the sin bounce and rotation

#help-development message

[winter jungle]

Thanks

[trim quest]

Anyone knows how to upload an api to Jitpack that depend on Buildtools generated spigot dependency.

my github action workflows works but cant upload to jitpack

https://github.com/Erano01/EranoAPI-Parent

Jitpack build log

[INFO] Reactor Summary:
[INFO] 
[INFO] EranoAPI-Parent 1.0 ................................ SUCCESS [  0.783 s]
[INFO] EranoAPI 1.0 ....................................... SUCCESS [ 12.402 s]
[INFO] NMS 1.0 ............................................ SUCCESS [  0.003 s]
[INFO] V1_21_R1 1.0 ....................................... FAILURE [  1.512 s]
[INFO] V1_21_R2 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_21_R3 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_21_R4 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_20_R3 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
....
[INFO] V1_16_R1 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_15_R1 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_14_R1 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_13_R2 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_13_R1 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_12_R1 1.0-SNAPSHOT .............................. SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_11_R1 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] V1_10_R1 1.0 ....................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] Dist 1.0 ........................................... SKIPPED
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] BUILD FAILURE
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Total time:  14.819 s
[INFO] Finished at: 2025-07-24T20:37:26Z
[INFO] ------------------------------------------------------------------------
[ERROR] Failed to execute goal on project V1_21_R1: Could not resolve dependencies for project me.erano.com:V1_21_R1:jar:1.0: Could not find artifact org.spigotmc:spigot:jar:remapped-mojang:1.21.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in spigot-repo (https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/) -> [Help 1]

i guess i have to upload it into maven repo

then jitpack can fetch it from there

[elder leaf]

hello any help i dont know

[slender elbow]

well, what is it complaining about?

[elder leaf]

C:\Users\hopko\Downloads\weekly-regional-elections (6)\src\main\java\cz\churaq\ravarynvolby\integrations\LuckPermsIntegration.java:148:53
java: method builder in interface net.luckperms.api.query.QueryOptions cannot be applied to given types;
required: net.luckperms.api.query.QueryMode
found: no arguments
reason: actual and formal argument lists differ in length

i tried this QueryOptions queryOptions = QueryOptions.builder(QueryMode.EXACT).context(contextSet).build();

but still

[trim quest]

guys i really need someone that expert on CI/CD processing with spigot.

[buoyant viper]

how do u import spigot NMS

maybe u need to tell dep manager that its provided at runtime and not absolutely necessary for usage or something

[trim quest]

using buildtools with github actions

check EranoAPI-Parent/actions

will provide EranoAPI submodule to my clients

[slender elbow]

where did you get "EXACT" from loll

did you ask AI or something

it's an enum, you should look at the enum values for which one you are interested in

[elder leaf]

i asking AI

bcs i dont know how to fix

and ai said this

[slender elbow]

that method takes a "QueryMode"
looking at the javadoc, QueryMode is an enum
you should look at the enum values for which one you are interested in
https://javadoc.io/doc/net.luckperms/api/latest/net/luckperms/api/query/QueryMode.html

[grand flint]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-scared-face-terrified-sweating-gif-26719243

[grand flint]

why did u have that ready to send 🙏 😭

W help

[slender elbow]

if you value any of your time or dignity as a programmer, you should take a proper Java course instead of rotting your brain with AI "assistants" that, unlike your abilities to think critically and solve problems, can't get things right

[eternal night]

AI assistance isn’t about replacing thinking—it’s about not wasting time reinventing the wheel every five minutes. If using tools to work smarter offends your “dignity,” maybe the real problem isn’t the AI.

[trim quest]

i agree this. for example i am using ai assistants atm for CI/CD stuff and its sucks if you dont know the context that you are developing on.

[buoyant viper]

nice em dash, cant fool me, lynxGPT

[eternal night]

[trim quest]

vibe coding: ❌
vibe engineering: ✅ / meh

[grand flint]

its the people who use it

[eternal night]

-# I am just shitposting to annoy emily

[slender elbow]

lynx, both of us know that you do not need to shitpost to annoy me

[eternal night]

aww really?

[slender elbow]

am watching dankpods

wanna join?

[eternal night]

who?

[slender elbow]

green ipad aussie

[buoyant viper]

i mean theres some truth to what em said

to fully rely on AI (vibecode) is pure idiocy

u must still at least know the language and have a basic understanding of common errors

otherwise ur code is as good as mine (not at all)

[grand flint]

nah

if u know how to code

ai is soo super useufl

[buoyant viper]

if u know how to code

yeah thats like the whole point

[trim quest]

it is what she said actually.

[grand flint]

it just speeds it up as long as u arent being an idiot

[grand flint]

she* (i found out an hour ago)

[buoyant viper]

to vibecode (to me) is to quite literally try to code (make AI write it) without knowing how to

[trim quest]

being fully rely on AI means that you are blindly developing something that you dont know.

[buoyant viper]

maybe i should put pronouns in bio

i hate having <<<METADATA>>> stored :(

[grand flint]

I ALSO FOUND UR NAME

[elder leaf]

thank u

[buoyant viper]

regex pronouns 🙏🏻

i fucked up the regex.

there we go

[buoyant viper]

this is true

https://winnpixie.com/ 🙏🏻

[grand flint]

YOO

I ALSO FOUND OUT WHERE U LIVE

[buoyant viper]

i should update this a bit

[slender elbow]

programming languages such as "Java"

"PHP"

[buoyant viper]

i actually have a different version of it that doesnt look as dumb lol

[slender elbow]

better than my landing page

uh

[slender elbow]

youtube is 404 booooo

[buoyant viper]

a bit more in-depth

one day i need to write a proper resume but ive only had one job and i havent done college LOL

so like i have fuckin Nothing to put on it

[trim quest]

you can use vercel to upload your resume. its free for frontend deployments.

you can also set it your dns setup on there for your custom domain.

[green gyro]

Hi folks. Want to ask abot minor version backwards compatibility. If I compile against 1.21.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT, will all versions of 1.21 work as long as I don't use new api methods?

[buoyant viper]

u should use the api version that matches the minimum version youd like to support in this case

if u dont intend on using new features, why depend on newer api?

[green gyro]

Just out of interest, as the plugin did load on an older minor version

[chrome beacon]

yeah it'll work for all versions that contain the methods you're using

(and fields etc, you get the idea)

[potent crescent]

i have disabled proplem check by worng how can i back it

[buoyant viper]

no more problems in the code 🙏🏻

[cinder abyss]

very good color scheme

[buoyant viper]

thank u

i took graphic design one year in highschool and vaguely remember how to color something

[cinder abyss]

Also, hum-hum, hello (but it's night for me)
How can I dynamically generate the resource pack for an item with custom model data ?
Idk if packed does it @radste... wtf ?

(@remote swallow where's rad ?)

[cinder abyss]

still that's it

[remote swallow]

he left

[cinder abyss]

why ?

he prefers paper ?

fabric ?

[remote swallow]

spigot isnt a place he wanted to stay anymore

[cinder abyss]

oh

[remote swallow]

half the people in here arent worth the effort to still talk to

[cinder abyss]

okay... I mean, if it's better like this

[remote swallow]

he mainly just didnt like a few people and didnt want to have to see/talk to them

[cinder abyss]

(can you explain in dms please ?)

[cinder abyss]

okay I see

[buoyant viper]

not me though im Banger

[cinder abyss]

hope it's better then

[buoyant viper]

🙏🏻

[young knoll]

Maybe if discord had better blocking

[cinder abyss]

it seems really dark

[potent crescent]

I changed the shape of the problems by mistake, how do I get them back? 🤡

[buoyant viper]

isnt that how they normally look

[potent crescent]

no this is smaller and this is dosent have number of. proplems

[buoyant viper]

what shows up when u right click in that area

or like on the ( ! )

[potent crescent]

number of proplems ans warrings

and*

it was bormally showning number of proplems and warrings with out click on it

alrrr i fixed it

this is the normally

[buoyant viper]

so many warnings the IDE gotta show it twice

[mortal vortex]

Bangable*

[mortal vortex]

🙏 did us a favor.

[swift oyster]

is there a way to get the height of a block? like 1 for a full block, 0.something for snow...

[mortal vortex]

i dont tink.

not for generic blocks

Snow specifically has #getLayers()

[pseudo hazel]

most blocks are 1 block tall

[mortal vortex]

Yeah you could just make a list for those that arent.

[pseudo hazel]

the rest are exceptions you unfortunately have to measure out

but some depend on placement or being powered i.e. trapdoors

[mortal vortex]

ohh true

[pseudo hazel]

and how tall would you measure glow lichen? i guess either 0.1 or 0.0

long story short,

?xy

[undone axle]

https://xyproblem.info/

[swift oyster]

Okay thank you, my goal was to precisely align an ItemDisplay that displays a head to the ground. I guess I'll make a list with all the exceptions then

[smoky anchor]

https://joakimthorsen.github.io/MCPropertyEncyclopedia/

just raycast

[sullen marlin]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/Block.html#getBoundingBox()

[faint tide]

Hi, anyone good with Display Transformations here? I can't seem to figure out what is wrong. A item display is summoned with a scale of 0, and after a timer of 10 ticks the transformation should kick in, rotating the display towards the player while growing to the new scale size of 0.9f

    @Override
    public void ExecuteTick(RewardExecutorContext context, long ticksPassed) {
        if (ticksPassed == 10L) {
            var display = this.getDisplay(context.location);
            entities.add(display);

            display.setInterpolationDelay(0);
            display.setInterpolationDuration(20);
            display.setTransformation(new Transformation(
                    new Vector3f(),
                    new AxisAngle4f(0f, 1f, 0f, 0f),
                    new Vector3f(0.9f, 0.9f, 0.9f),
                    new AxisAngle4f(0f, 1f, 0f, 0f)
            ));
        }
    }```

The thing I don't get, is that it does the transformation, but instantly. it doesn't matter if I change the InterpolationDuration to a higher number, it keeps being instantly

[thorn isle]

make sure you don't call setTransformation a second time before the interpolation duration ends

sending a new transformation while the previous one is still being interpolated will skip the previous interpolation and start interpolating to the new transformation as if the previous one had been instantly completed

also make sure the entity isn't spawned in the same tick as when you set the interpolation duration/transformation; i think that should work but personally i've had issues with that skipping the interpolation as well

[faint tide]

hmm fair enough. I shouldn't have a second transformation active, but let me make sure

i added the 10 tick cooldown on purpose to not fire it too quick

[thorn isle]

another thing you could try is setting the interpolation duration first, on spawn, possibly even in the spawnEntity consumer that's called before the entity is even added to the world

it could be that the client sees the transformation being set before it sees the duration being set

it shouldn't, since they're supposed to be sent in the same entity data packet, but i've had issues with this shit as well and it clearly doesn't work the way it should

[faint tide]

hmm alright I've applied your suggestions, I'll go test it now

This seems to have fixed it! Odd that it works like that, but at least it works now

Thanks a lot for you helpful suggestions

[potent crescent]

What does the glasses mark mean?

[chrome beacon]

watched thread I'd assume

[potent crescent]

Does that mean it was published?

[chrome beacon]

Just means you'll get notifications from messages posted there

[elder dome]

guys iam making a smp

anybody want to help me

for free

[mortal vortex]

dude. Not the right channel.

[elder dome]

?

[elder dome]

it says help development

[mortal vortex]

Yes. Help for people looking to make plugins.

[elder dome]

making plugins

o

where can i find help

[mortal vortex]

Meaning, if you're trying to code a plugin, this is the place you'd get help.

[elder dome]

where shoiuld i look?

[mortal vortex]

I dont think there is a place, other than the Spigot Forums, and posting free things isnt allowed i think.

[elder dome]

can you plzz tell me

o

[mortal vortex]

I just did.

[thorn isle]

give me money

[elder dome]

let me look around

[eternal oxide]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[elder dome]

give me ps5

[mortal vortex]

paid* btw

rule of thumb, i dont think many honest people are going to help you for free.

[orchid brook]

Hi guys how are the doing this ? https://imgur.com/a/pC8eRVj
They put yellow background on item that can be added to backpack. I though they was doing that with custom resource pack but after looking into the texturepack i don't see any item with yellow background.
And when looking the config we can config a RGB color like:

slots:
  colors:
    not_owned: 195,147,57
    owned: 56,67,100

[smoky anchor]

My guess would be font fuckery

[grizzled surge]

Hello Guys,
So i want to make a custom Item System for a plugin that I develop. I want the ItemStack of the Custom Item to have a Translation key from a resource pack as the Display Name, I tried it with Component.translate but that didn't work. Does somebody know if this is possible and if it is, how I can do it?
Thanks

[echo basalt]

yeah that's font fuckery

you make a font for each slot row and then use negative spacing and whatever

I have it for the first 6 rows somewhere

https://sourceb.in/KQG3zFQ1uz

[echo basalt]

Component.translatable is the right solution

you might have to specify a namespace

Try sending yourself the component as a message to debug if the problem is in your pack or in your component

[orchid brook]

damn very smart

[echo basalt]

I wrote that code years ago I'd do it different nowadays

let's see if I can find the pack for it

[orchid brook]

because actualy some people tell me that core shader is the way to go

[echo basalt]

bruh

https://sourceb.in/KgRGg5mVmP

there

it's just a 1x1 pixel scaled up to the size of a slot

given that slots render BEFORE items in versions <1.21.6 it works

starting on 1.21.6 mojang did a big stinky and broke all custom UIs

you can sorta get around with it using core shaders BUT it breaks item lore

they also broke lots of core shader stuff in 1.21.5

who knows

[orchid brook]

Yeah i saw that 😦

[crisp coral]

Looking for someone to help make the rest of my server. NOT PAYED. DM ME. REALLY NEED HELP

[eternal oxide]

PANIC!!!!

[crisp coral]

?

[grand flint]

SUPER PANIC!!!!

not paid advertising is crazy

[crisp coral]

Wow I'm sorry

[grand flint]

should be 🤨

anwyays

[crisp coral]

...

[grand flint]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[crisp coral]

Ty

[trim quest]

We should make fun of people who are looking for developers to make things as a volunteer.

[grand flint]

aura

[potent crescent]

What would make us work for free?

i dont undrstand that

[trim quest]

I am completely against the concept of volunteering unless it is open source.

and it must have a certain amount of success or popularity or promise.

[orchid brook]

this work for 1.21.7

[echo basalt]

[slender elbow]

you just wait until they finally drop the whole graphics refactoring

[crisp coral]

GIANT PINECONE IN STOCK

[slender elbow]

i got enough pinecones at home i don't need anymore

[grand flint]

WHERE

STILL??

[crisp coral]

YEA

4 mins left

[grand flint]

OMG

I MIGHT JUST CODE FOR U FOR FREE

fuck u liar @crisp coral

[crisp coral]

I just got it

bru

[grand flint]

liar

[crisp coral]

nuh uh

[grand flint]

i wouldve developed for u for free

[crisp coral]

It was ong there

[grim hound]

can you make an entity always update their yaw clientside to whatever the player is facing?

[orchid brook]

since my plugin use hidePlayer method, i use packet to send fake ServerPlayerInfoUpdate packet to show them on tab. But the tab completion for commands didn't work anymore is there a fix for that ?

[grand flint]

Yeah send the player name to tab complete

nice atlantis logo

[orchid brook]

Thank u ❤️ My wife did it

[grand flint]

aura ask her to make me one pls

[orchid brook]

I can send u his discord name if u want

[grand flint]

ur wife is a guy

[orchid brook]

no ? 😭

[topaz hollow]

can server owner sue their devloper?

[eternal oxide]

anyone can sue anyone

[topaz hollow]

yes , but can it hold in court as its just a minecraft server?

[eternal night]

depends on what you are sueing for? xD

[eternal oxide]

depends, talk to a lawyer

[topaz hollow]

i am the devloper

[topaz hollow]

too expensive

[eternal night]

okay? depends on what you are being sued for

[topaz hollow]

for giving backdoor access

[eternal night]

[eternal oxide]

yes for sure

unless you were given explicit permission to do so

[topaz hollow]

but its a minecraft server

[eternal night]

how does that matter

[eternal oxide]

makes no difference

[topaz hollow]

and the damage was minimal

[eternal oxide]

makes no difference

[topaz hollow]

and he does not know my real name

[eternal night]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral pier]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[eternal night]

distributing malware is illegal is most places lol

[eternal oxide]

some places its a very serious crime

[floral pier]

Ye that's a felony

[grim hound]

bruh just ghost him

[floral pier]

He can just report you to any law enforcemeny entity

[topaz hollow]

after he started threatning me I deleted all the console logs , my mods and left

[topaz hollow]

how will they find my name

[eternal night]

I mean, law enforcement kindly asks discord

[eternal oxide]

he could hire a super spy to find you

[eternal night]

discord kindly provides your ip

[eternal night]

or whatever

[floral pier]

Because your ISP has logs of the IP ranges they rented you

[eternal night]

but yea, this isn't legal help

[floral pier]

And every webservice has logs correlating that range to your accounts.

[topaz hollow]

I think once discord refused to give some information in court so they were summoned

[eternal night]

[grim hound]

was it, on purpose

?

[floral pier]

Yeah they did. Then they got in shit for that.

[eternal night]

nah, I always code backdoors without intention

[kind hatch]

All backdoors are purposeful

[topaz hollow]

yah he said he will pay may so he never did so I compensated for my work

[floral pier]

Discord has entirely different ownership now.

[grim hound]

ah yeah

[grim hound]

I say justified

[thorn isle]

🤡

[eternal night]

Well, if they haven't paid you for it, chances of them actually suing you sounds rough

[kind hatch]

Maybe morally, legally, no.

[eternal night]

if they don't have the money to pay you, doubtful they have the money to sue you

[floral pier]

Ye you's probaby fine then

[topaz hollow]

nah he is a rich kid , he used his parents credit card to buy hosting

[floral pier]

Unless he just charges you

[grim hound]

you don't need to be rich for that, y'know

[eternal night]

aaahaa. This sounds like troll, gl

[thorn isle]

Sounds like a 13 year old and/or a third-world bananastan plebeian

Nothing will happen

[kind hatch]

"bananastan" lmao

[topaz hollow]

if you are starting a minecraft server that is also open you need some money

[thorn isle]

Yeah at least 2.5 dollars

[topaz hollow]

more like 50

[thorn isle]

Nuh

[floral pier]

Lol

[eternal night]

😱 50 dollars?!?!?

[topaz hollow]

most reliable hosting charge that much

[eternal night]

(lawyer won't even look your way for 50 dollars)

[floral pier]

Use a VPS brother

[grim hound]

if that isn't the definition of filthy rich, I don't know what is

[floral pier]

It's just a java app...

[alpine urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-gucci-mane-lifers-song-turn-up-dancing-gif-21270463

[topaz hollow]

what if he gets a contingency fee lawyer

[alpine urchin]

do you mean pro bono

[thorn isle]

Or like a 2 dollar 2gb pebblehost shit tier shared host

[grim hound]

how old are you?

[topaz hollow]

bruh it was a 32gb ram server , he rented a vps

[eternal night]

[topaz hollow]

17

[thorn isle]

Then it'll be at least 20 dollars

[grim hound]

what country

[eternal night]

tl;dr, legally yes, backdoor be illegal. Wait and see if anything actually comes from it

[topaz hollow]

50

[thorn isle]

Nuh

[topaz hollow]

usa

[thorn isle]

20

[grim hound]

ah, my condolences

[topaz hollow]

i watched better call saul what if he gets lawyer like saul goodman

[floral pier]

Then you're fine

Because you don't live in a TV show so he'll be held to actual rules

[dark arrow]

is it possible to sue your developer for making backdoor access to server?

[topaz hollow]

bye bye

[topaz hollow]

no you can't , I don't think its even possible, you should not consider that as it will waste your time and lawyer fees,

[fair rock]

You can. Depends on several factors but its possible of course.

[slender elbow]

yes you can lol

it's 100% possible

[topaz hollow]

lawyer can charge 1000s per hearing can you afford it , what if you loose after spending so much money, I would suggest to not go for it and forgive whoever that devloper was 🙂

[dark arrow]

hmm , but he did a lot of damage

[fair rock]

That wasnt his question. He asked if its possible. Yes.

[topaz hollow]

but its not practical , so don't suggest that

[fair rock]

That wasnt his question. He asked if its possible. So again: Yes.

Not if it practical, easy or cheap

[grand flint]

It's possible but useless

[thorn isle]

why are you even asking

how are we even supposed to know

[topaz hollow]

yes

[grand flint]

Your best thing would be to get him banned in all connections he has

[dark arrow]

I thought you guys are delvopers so yuo may see it a a lot

[grand flint]

What did he cause?

[thorn isle]

things depend a lot on the case

[grand flint]

Don't you also have backups?

What is the damage here

[thorn isle]

and although we're developers i doubt at most 1% of the people here have done something like this themselves

[dark arrow]

I mean it does not matter as he took a lot of stuff from his backdoor access and distributed it for free, he has been doing for weeks so I cant revert it back that much

[grand flint]

Well then take it down with a DMCA

[thorn isle]

that is to say i'm sure there are many malware enthusiasts, crackers, and pirates here, but in doing those things most of them covered their tracks well enough not to have to worry

[topaz hollow]

by any chance is it possble that you may have not paid him well so he got angry?

[fair rock]

That dont make any sense

[grand flint]

Is that a valid reason to backdoor and break dmca laws?

[topaz hollow]

i mean its morally valid

[fair rock]

No

[grand flint]

ur a moron

[thorn isle]

not really

[grand flint]

i just sometimes hate everyone having an opinion

like not everyone needs an opinion

[thorn isle]

and even then the law doesn't care

[topaz hollow]

bro why you being so rude

[grand flint]

some people just should use other peoples opinions instead of having their own

"he didnt pay me well so i will break multiple laws instead of simply reporting him to wherever he hired me from"

bc its morally right ✅

[dark arrow]

he justfied it with exact same reason , But we never agreed to pay so why should I

[thorn isle]

eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and me king because i have one eye

[grand flint]

aura if u ask me

[topaz hollow]

I mean many time employer could be your old friend who verbally said they will pay you and you end up trusting so you have to get back

[thorn isle]

it was financial self defence bro

[grand flint]

"have to get back"

[dark arrow]

you are right maybe I should drop it

[fair rock]

Can we talk about the logic? "But what if he didnt pay", after Sammu answer, he didnt pay. But the backdoor was already there or not? So that cant be a reason.

[grand flint]

u shouldnt drop it

u should report him

and get his online identity exposed

doesnt mean u go attack him back

u just do whats legally right

take action not harm

[grand flint]

the only acceptable backdoor is

having a cloud function that simply breaks the plugin if it wasnt paid

[dark arrow]

I don't want to spend thousands just to have a chance of winning , I don't even know his real name

[thorn isle]

the one i have access to

[grand flint]

not breaking dmca laws

[grand flint]

i didnt say sue him

i said report him

its a minecraft server

no lawyer is picking up ur case

[eternal oxide]

if you recruited him in the spigot forums report him, else he does it to others

[dark arrow]

where will i report him , Mojang plice?

[grand flint]

just publicly shame him

[eternal oxide]

if you didn't get him from spigot do nothing

[grand flint]

whats his username

ping him here

[dark arrow]

he was my friend who said he will make plugins for me

[slender elbow]

publicly shame them on twitter

[grand flint]

real

then he gets killed irl bc its twitter

[thorn isle]

punch him in the face

[fair rock]

"He was my friend", i guess i know why not anymore xd

[dark arrow]

he left the server immediately after i found out

and blocked

[grand flint]

so.?

honestly

sounds more like

ur bullshitting at this point

[vocal cloud]

I mean if he caused financial damage you could sue him for losses. Of course assuming you can find the guy

[grand flint]

to cause drama

simply copy his username and paste it here

or copy his user id

[grand flint]

ah yes 20$ of minecraft assets

the lawyers will be 🤑 with this case

[dark arrow]

suppose if i sue him for damages for like 10k , will the lawyer and stuff cost me more than that?

[thorn isle]

engage in physical violence against him

[grand flint]

u cant sue him for 10k

there isnt 10k in damages

[vocal cloud]

Don't need a lawyer in small claims court

[grand flint]

still isnt valuable enough to be picked up

[eternal oxide]

Challenge him to a cage fight

[topaz hollow]

definetely , + the time will be wasted

[grand flint]

neither is it worth wasting ur time

??

the lawyer doesnt cost more than 10k

nikola where is ur law knowledge from

minecraft?

[thorn isle]

no but really since you know him irl, duke it out irl

[topaz hollow]

lol you are so dumb , any lawyer will charge 500-1000 for first hearing in usa

[grand flint]

lets make a poll

[thorn isle]

people do dumb shit on the internet because they're too used to being protected by a screen in between

[grand flint]

how is that more than 10k

do u use ur fingers to count perchance?

[fair rock]

Love ya thats so tru

[topaz hollow]

thats first hearing , what kind of case is completed in one hearing

[kind hatch]

something something.... mike tyson quote

[thorn isle]

back in the day every time you'd fuck around you'd also find out

[grand flint]

ah yes they will go to national court for a minecraft server

LMAOO

it would be sorted and done in one hearing

neither would a lawyer pick it up

bc there isnt 10k in damages

there isnt even 1k in damages

so a claim of 10k wouldnt even be accepted in any case

[thorn isle]

what about 10 dollars

[grand flint]

aura

[topaz hollow]

so we are back to same thing , its not practical

you guys made it so long when i said that sam ething at the start

[grand flint]

we arent back to the same thing

u said u cant sue

u can

u said it would cost more than 10k

no it wouldnt

[vocal cloud]

I mean it's technically computer hacking in a way but it's a coinflip on if the judge/jury understands enough tech knowledge to care

[topaz hollow]

then i said its not practical and its true

[grand flint]

doesnt matter

i didnt disagree on that

anyways

all of it just sounds like bullshit

[slender elbow]

it's still possible, and someone with enough time and money will do it

[grand flint]

sounds like he just wants attention

[fair rock]

Btw in some countries the loser has to pay the laywer so if you 100% sure, you could try and didnt lose money

[dark arrow]

the case will be more symbolic than practical

[grand flint]

no that depends on the case

[grand flint]

bro shut up

we all know nothing happend

just load the latest backup and continue

[thorn isle]

what'd be much more symbolic is a fist in the face

[grand flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381958514813177901/1386307802724696074/artworks-RwY8yjWFGyZzLXZs-bg2CTQ-t1080x1080.gif

[thorn isle]

he'll for sure never backdoor again

[dark arrow]

man whats wrong with you , don't you read previous messages, you are just straight up abusing , leave the conversation if you are not intrested

[thorn isle]

at least anyone within melee distance

[fair rock]

I hate my mind for that

[grand flint]

damn

[topaz hollow]

assault and battery

[grand flint]

http://goo.gl is gonna stop working soon

[fair rock]

ok nvm you doing it on purpose

[slender elbow]

that implies knowing the person in real life which is cringe

[grand flint]

how will i link my favourite google searches

[thorn isle]

i think he said he does

[fair rock]

If his gf ever ask for backdoor he has now PTSD

[topaz hollow]

literally he is the one who is bullshitting from start, not being helpful at all xD

[grand flint]

sorry mr minecrat lawyer

didnt know u was so interested in backdoors

[dark arrow]

I don't think he will ever read this

[thorn isle]

i vaguely remember hearing that mojang changed the world generator somehow so that updating the server version mid-generation no longer causes chunk borders

[grand flint]

damn thats crazy

[thorn isle]

anyone know whether this is true and if so, how is this accomplished?

[grand flint]

@molten hearth ^^

[thorn isle]

specifically i'd like to selectively regenerate parts of my world with different heightmap noise/biomes

so if that could be done smoothly without causing chunk borders that'd be neat

[fair rock]

Sadge

[thorn isle]

like i guess i could manually do some smoothing for say ~2 border chunks myself but that seems a bit bothersome to implement reliably and is probably pretty expensive to do at runtime

so if mojang has already invented this particular wheel i'd rather not reinvent it

[smoky anchor]

Yes, chunk blending is a feature
Sadly that's all I know about it

Here's a post about it, idk if it's what you want
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/chunk-blending-feature.684867/

[thorn isle]

i'll take a look see

mmm

interesting, though not particularly informative

i'll have to fuck around with it some i guess

if i had to implement this myself i'd probably try interpolating the noise between the old seed/noise and the new one, but i don't think the noise or other generator information is stored in the world, so you'd need all the parameters of the old world generator to do that

[smoky anchor]

yep

[thorn isle]

you could maybe sorta ish compute the noise values from the biome and terrain heights, but things like cave systems would probably be impossible to patch over smoothly

[molten hearth]

why would i know about mojang generation 😭

[grand flint]

br9

the imagine 💀

[grand flint]

this

[molten hearth]

ohh

😔

[grand flint]

oh wait arent u in france

[molten hearth]

ya

[trim quest]

huh i finally did @chrome beacon

im only using github workflows

https://github.com/Erano01/EranoAPI-Parent

[echo basalt]

@thorn isle ever dealt with nms inventories just refusing to do shit?

for some reason when I open a gui after right clicking, I can't drop items out of it

and it doesn't fire click events when dropping

Does it think the player is invalid or something

[thorn isle]

you either patch the server to fire a million sysouts in the inventory handling logic, or you attach a debugger to the server and set a million breakpoints in the inventory handling logic

i recommend paper userdev + runserver

[echo basalt]

I'm doing it at the most basic level

it could be this

oo maybe

[thorn isle]

it could be that you're omitting something that sets the carried item of the menu

[echo basalt]

I think what's happening is that dropping the item swings the hand

and that opens the gui again

which passes that check

[thorn isle]

the more sysouts the better

sloc stands to sysout lines of code and is an objective measure of how good the code is

[echo basalt]

it explains why opening the menu through the hotkey works but not w the item

stupid ass detection

does the client not fire a left click packet?

do we seriously have to figure out with hang swings

[thorn isle]

i think it might have a packet for that but the bukkit listener also listens for the animation arm swing packet or whatever because the proper packet doesn't cover every case where an "interaction" happens

this is a longstanding problem and causes interact events to fire when doing completely unrelated things

[worldly ingot]

Correct. That's why you get a left click action you do something like opening a trapdoor, which famously is not a left click action :p

The client does not send an actual interaction packet with the interaction being made

[thorn isle]

one day we will for sure get left/right click fields in the input packet or something 🤡

[echo basalt]

but the trapdoor opens

can't we just prioritize every other packet

and then use that to kinda figure it out

[worldly ingot]

I think Mojang is aware that the community wants more streamlined interactions

But they also don't want to write something that then has to be rewritten again over a bandaid

[echo basalt]

or just disable the hang swing when dropping in a gui

[echo basalt]

you mean they don't want tech debt

[worldly ingot]

Sure, yeah, whatever term you want to use for it

[echo basalt]

yay I can drop items

[thorn isle]

i think including rmb/lmb in the input packet would probably be fairly straight forward, but i guess that does leave a lot of the logic up to the serverside to figure out what the player is actually doing with those inputs

[worldly ingot]

There are some complications with how the client predicts interactions, iirc

[thorn isle]

eh, for most of my use cases at least i don't really care whether it's an interaction or not, just whether the button was pressed

wouldn't be suitable for the interact event though, sure

[worldly ingot]

Yeah but then you get into the camp of "I should be able to listen for any and all key presses too"

[thorn isle]

well, yes

i would like that

[worldly ingot]

Server-defined keystrokes would be nice but that's a separate issue that ties in very closely to just adding in mouse click listening

Hard to fix slop with new slop

[thorn isle]

i would also like to add custom keybinds as a synchronized registry

[ancient plank]

if we're going to say things we want

[thorn isle]

press f to pay respects and so on

[ancient plank]

I want to be able to set non-whole number positions for end crystals from the server

[worldly ingot]

Too bad >:L

[ancient plank]

no, I will never drop this topic

[thorn isle]

i want to be able to rotate and move item frames freely

some guy said he managed to do that but i don't believe him

and he can't reproduce it

[ancient plank]

could probably technically imitate it using item displays lol

[echo basalt]

you were able to do it pre-1.17

[thorn isle]

raaaah

[echo basalt]

in 1.17 they changed item frames to not use their yaw and pitch but rather their block face

[slender elbow]

choco

[echo basalt]

took me 4 hours of testing to figure out why downgrading the server broke rotation

[ancient plank]

I found the meme I made to express my frustration

[thorn isle]

this makes me incredibly angry

[worldly ingot]

emily

[echo basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/olivia-santana-fazendo-o-l-olivia-fazendo-o-l-faz-o-l-mulher-chorando-gif-13469434903149681512

I wonder what funny interactions you cna have if you mount an item frame in a display entity

[ancient plank]

honestly

[echo basalt]

imagine if you could mount a creeper in a display entity and rotate it

get spun

[ancient plank]

probably a fun project to try

if only I have an inclination for interpolation math

[thorn isle]

sadly i don't think mounting things on displays makes things inherit their transformations

that would be a very neat feature, however

proper bones and shit for animation

[ancient plank]

I did some simple stuff like an earthquake to make blocks move around and shake, and it was cool- that's the extent of my knowledge

[thorn isle]

while we're at it let's allow for a custom mount offset

so you can actually port multipart models into the game without having to teleport shit around, and you'd get proper multipart interpolation

[ancient plank]

Sometimes I think about how it'd look to do trees that wave in wind in minecraft w/ display entities

[thorn isle]

could be neat, though i think gameplay would kind of suffer what with the hitboxes and all

[ancient plank]

absolutely

but

it'd be cool to look at

[thorn isle]

might be a better project for shaders and maybe a mod to animate the hitboxes/collisions as well

[ancient plank]

I'm at the point in my hobby life where I'm going into extremely impractical creations because why not

[thorn isle]

shaders do already make leaves wave around by transforming the geometry

should probably not be impossible to do the same for logs that are part of a tree

[ancient plank]

yeah but I don't like touching client stuff

I like pushing the limits on the server side of things

[thorn isle]

waving trees reminds me, the new ambient/environmental particles are super nice

forests feel much more forestlike with falling leaves and shit

now we just need a bunch more per-biome ambient sounds like chirping birds and crashing waves

which is a serverside project which i've always wanted to get around to but never had the time

i even stole the sound assets from some mod already

[pure dagger]

so i want to make a configurable shop (gui). admin could add or remove items and set the price. and im thinking how to make that configurable. through a command and through config. but if it was configurable through a config, then you couldnt set custom items from other plugins, and if it was configurable through command, then the config would be pretty unreadable. so i dont know if i can do both

[thorn isle]

you can do both, by accepting both formats in the config

the ones created with a command will be unreadable, but as long as they are named informatively in the config, that is fine

the price and other shop-related settings will still be readable

and for basic vanilla items you can just accept a simple item definition from a material in the config

ideally you'd use some form of centralized item management system but there are many of them out there and maintaining compat with all of them is infeasible

for a similar project i ended up forking pretty much every item-related plugin on the server to unify the custom item representation (e.g. the pdc key used to identify them) and now just refer to them in configs by pluginname:itemname

this was particularly ass for mythicmobs because mythicmobs is particularly ass to begin with

and being closed source made forking it a bit annoying

i wouldn't have had to fork it of course if they had proper external custom item support, but like everything fucking else in their dumpsterfire of a plugin, it is there but barely works

[pure dagger]

then i think it would be better to not make it throught config

[thorn isle]

yes well if you don't make it configurable through a file i will find where you live and burn your house down

[echo basalt]

write an intermediary format / your own item codecs

makes config readable and the command items readable as well

[thorn isle]

additionally if you make it configurable through a gui exclusively i will also burn your entire city down

[pure dagger]

you mean like

serialize it

?

[echo basalt]

yuh

ezpz

[pure dagger]

how do i know i included everything

[thorn isle]

i recommend paper's ItemStack::serializeAsJson

or snbt

[echo basalt]

you write a million codecs

[pure dagger]

million codecs?

[thorn isle]

if you write it yourself you run into essentials town and it becomes a maintenance nightmare

[pure dagger]

whats 'essentials town' ?

[thorn isle]

essentials from the dawn of time had its own item syntax

which over time grew larger and more complicated and more unreasonable and most incriminatingly, more different from the way how vanilla item definitions evolved

it was and is a nightmare to both the maintainers and anyone trying to do anything more difficult than add enchants on an item with it

use snbt/json and you can delegate serialization to paper and documentation to mcwiki

[pure dagger]

sooo what is 'essentials TOWN' ?

[pure dagger]

did you mean here that ill do the same mistake as essentials did... ?

[thorn isle]

x town is a turn of phrase meaning a place to be pertaining to or defined by x

in this case a bad place to be since it was ass and shit

not that essentials as a whole is ass or shit but in terms of the item syntax it definitely is ass and shit

so yes implementing your own codec for everything is going to also be ass and shit; you'll be repeating their mistake

mythicmobs for all the shit i give them did it a bit better, in that they at least allow you to specify your own itemstack serializer if you want to use anything other than their item syntax

of course, just like everything in mythicmobs, it works only situationally

but i'd still take it over essentials items any day of the week

[pure dagger]

okkaay

[vague grove]

How can i put Block material to tabcomplete?

[rotund ravine]

Just like anything else

[pure dagger]

wdym

[left jay]

do yall know what sound this is labeled as in spigot?
https://youtu.be/pCFvEOZUzu8?si=N_CVEnY5Hi454juO

[slender elbow]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Advancement#Sounds

[left jay]

oh sweet, thanks

[vague grove]

Like then i use /blocks args[0]
in args[0] will show up list of all blocks in the game

[sullen marlin]

Add a tab completer, get blocks from Material

[daring light]

The proper way to get a Minecart that just got placed would be through the EntitySpawnEvent?

[buoyant viper]

rate the C folx

(takes in a file [presumably .txt], converts newline chars to | for this one wallpaper i got on wallpaper engine)

[rotund ravine]

Sure

[daring light]

Looks good except VLAs are usually discouraged

[buoyant viper]

VLA?

i dont write C, i just have a vague understanding of it and basic IO

[daring light]

Variable length arrays

[buoyant viper]

ah

for the filename?

[daring light]

You could just malloc that and then avoid the w_strcpy by adding the offset directly to the pointer and use regular strcpy

[daring light]

For dstName yeah

[buoyant viper]

hm

what would that second part look like?

i could imagine the malloc would be char *dstName = malloc(sizeof(srcName) + (sizeof(char) * 4));, unless that still counts as variable-len?

[daring light]

If the sizeof(char) * 4 is for the extension then yeah that's correct

[buoyant viper]

and then strcpy(dstName, srcName);, then assigning the .nlc with strcat?

[daring light]

But also you're misusing sizeof

sizeof returns you the size of the type of the variable in bytes

in this case srcName is a pointer so if this is a 64-bit program it's going to be 8

[buoyant viper]

ah i need strlen?

[daring light]

Yeah

[buoyant viper]

guess ill include string.h, i was being stubborn trying to get around the import lol

[daring light]

Yep

[daring light]

Eh

It's so lightweight

You could make your own strlen and strcpy and what not but that doesn't really offer any benefit other than freestanding environments where you have no other choice

[buoyant viper]

this feels even more wrong now, mostly bc of me manually putting nullterm(do i need to?)

[lilac dagger]

all strings in c end with \n no?

[buoyant viper]

\n? naur

\0? perhaps

[lilac dagger]

oh right

\0

[buoyant viper]

OH

i get why u say that

i dont need to do it since ".nlc" would (hopefully?) have that in the strcpy

this should be fine, ye? @daring light

+5 is strlen(".nlc") (+4), and +1 for nullterm(necessary, ye?)

it prints out fine in stdout at least

or should i still be malloc'ing here? instead of just a normal array

[buoyant viper]

no yeah it was just pure stubbornness on my part

i was like "i could totally do this without needing it"

i think im still misusing sizeof now in array creation lol

theoretically i just... shouldnt need it

since that should just be "factored in" since its a direct char array

[daring light]

Yes you are still using VLAs instead of malloc

[buoyant viper]

F

[daring light]

You should only use arrays when the size is a constant

Otherwise use dynamic arrays

And also for strcat the destination needs to have enough space allocated for the string you are concatenating

[buoyant viper]

im aware of that ye, i did read some docs on the methods lol

this is now with malloc + free at the end of exec

[daring light]

Also the sizeof(char) here isn't misused. It's a legitimate thing to do if the platform the program runs on has a char size bigger than 1

[daring light]

dstName is too small

[buoyant viper]

D:

[daring light]

Right now this program it's undefined behaviour because you're concatenating outside the malloced area

[eternal oxide]

looks to me that won't support unicode strings

[daring light]

You need it to fit the name AND the extension

[daring light]

We don't need emoji filenames 😄

[buoyant viper]

should i assign the extension its own char * and then include that strlen in the malloc?

and reuse that variable in strcat?

[daring light]

No but seriously theres wchar for that, I've never worked with it but people say it's cursed

[daring light]

No

The malloc you used on dstName just needs to have enough space for both the srcName and the ext

You are copying the extension at the end of srcName

So they're next to memory

Currently you only have allocated enough space to fit srcName, but not enough to fit in ext when you strcat it

[buoyant viper]

i dont think i follow well enough

especially since it does... work

[daring light]

It works, but it's undefined behaviour

It may or may not work

May or may not segfault

You understand how pointers work generally?

[eternal oxide]

at a minimum you leave random junk in memory after you free

[buoyant viper]

i have a rough idea, i wouldnt say skilled enough to use them regularly though

[daring light]

Pointers are just pointers to a memory address

When you malloc, you tell the OS that you need a memory address which is GUARANTEED to have the amount of bytes you specified in the function parameter so malloc(size) after it

Let's say your srcName is 5 characters. In your case this is 5 bytes + NUL is 6 bytes. When you call malloc with strlen(srcName) + 1 it'll give you a memory address which you can be sure will have enough space after it to hold srcName plus 1 for the NUL terminator

So when you write the extension, it'll pass the 6 bytes you allocated

So now it's no longer guaranteed the memory is accessible to you and you can segfault because the kernel kills your program for violating the allowed memory it has asked for

And that memory you overflowed wont be freed like Elgar said since it isnt being tracked

[buoyant viper]

maybe i misinterpreted strcats documentation then? its behaviour seems to imply it overwrites the null-term string in the destination, which when im doing +5 (for .ext + nul), is /more than enough/ when the strcpy call only invades 1 byte for srcName's null-char

[eternal oxide]

it does but you didn't request enough memory to go beyond that limit

[buoyant viper]

well, i dont intend to?

[eternal oxide]

you do once you concat

You seem to be confused between memory and a variable

your malloc limits your variables size to what you specified, BUT you are overflowing that size when you concat

[daring light]

Ah I did just notice you malloced +5

[eternal oxide]

+5 is good

so long as you ext is not over 4

well 3

[daring light]

That should be enough for that, but you want to avoid magic numbers like that, you should declare the extension as a const char * and then use strlen on it like you did with srcName

[buoyant viper]

i believe i had mentioned that, lol

@ declaring its own var

granted it was for a diff question but the thought did happen xd

i probably should make sure i free even when i error out though

which would include moving file logic outside of main

[daring light]

Depends

If you're returning from the program it's not needed

Since the OS does the cleanup itself

[eternal oxide]

although it is good practice

[buoyant viper]

still have the potential strcat issue? but lowered my chances of early return before free :D

also ignore same err code on read/write fail

does that look /safer/? @eternal oxide @daring light

[daring light]

Yeah looks good

Nitpick but when you're erroring out you usually return from main with a non-zero value

[pure dagger]

Maybe you just do material.getvalues or something like that and check if material.isblock ... I dont remember

[buoyant viper]

true :P better?

could technically return the format_result i suppose

or actually maybe not since thats not really indicative of the program as whole, technically, just 1 (albeit crucial) part, should still use EXIT_FAILURE (1)

[daring light]

Considering the size of the program returning format_result directly is good

[orchid brook]

https://imgur.com/a/bQFvPiY
Do you guys know if there is a fix for that client prediction causing visual glitch. Because i use tripwire for my custom resource pack crops but i got that visual bug

[sullen marlin]

Can you use something other than tripwire?

[orchid brook]

Don't think so. I see popular server having this feature where u can farm custom crops and when we look with F3 we saw that they also use tripwire

[sullen marlin]

What if you use it in the other state? Deactivated rather than activated or vice versa

[orchid brook]

Actualy we have this
https://imgur.com/a/C9cjLgb

[sullen marlin]

Are you using the same as them?

[orchid brook]

Im gonna check

Yeah they only have disarmed true

i will try with disarmed

[buoyant viper]

interestingly enough this error'd out on my phone, because i did char ch instead of int ch for when im calling fgetc

gcc on my desktop didnt say anything and it functioned as normal, but gcc on my phone warned me of an infinite loop (were my chars unsigned?) since it said -1 (EOF) was never achievable, and sure as hell it inf loop'd and filled with garbage data when i ctrl+c and du'd the output file

apparently char signedness is up to the implementation in C, fun

[daring light]

Yeah you should have it as an int

https://en.cppreference.com/w/c/io/fgetc

On success, returns the obtained character as an unsigned char converted to an int. On failure, returns EOF.

I'm guessing it converts it to an int so it can represent EOF

[daring light]

Also yeah it is

That's why you have unsigned and signed char types

[cinder abyss]

Hello, how can I set a block mining time ?

[smoky anchor]

You can't do that directly
In newer versions you can use the tool component on an item to change how long a block will be mined
Or the laggier way - use attributes to disable mining completely (there is block mining speed attribute) and only when player starts mining a certain block you change the attribute based on how long you want the block to take to mine

[potent crescent]

How to post a image?

?image

[smoky anchor]

you should be able to just paste it here since you're verified

[potent crescent]

i was mean in spigotmc web

but i got it

thx

upload file. just

[grand flint]

its tripwire

use nexo

but u dont really need tripwire u can use display entities which makes it more unlimited

[buoyant viper]

ye, i think i had just put char without thinking bc i was like "oh im working with characters, thisll be fine"

bc even in java i think u need to use int type for something like that lol

i just wasnt thinking at all lol

[mortal hare]

am i wrong in thinking that databases, especially structured ones are overused. I mean applications nowadays prefer reactive changes and they do validations and verifications on application level. Using normalized db for main operations hurts performance and is impractical since you want do validation as soon as you can.

My point is that you should have some kind of local persistence store (Apache Parquet you name it) which is denormalized which sits on top of the same system where app is deployed and it is use only in that application. Application persistence code should write to both normalized db and non normalized one, but read from only denormalized one

If you're doing microservices you can use kafka or other message broker to share denormalized data between nodes for further reuse, if none of the nodes would have the info then it would build the denormalized version by contacting the main normalized db. You can also plop in memory cache like redis for further optimizations of application level data if you to squeeze even more performance.

You can also just bite the bullet and use relational database with materialized views but they do have their own quirks and also you pollute your source of truth with app level data which is unimportant to the external services.

Nothing new pretty much but i seem to tailor towards this approach more and more.

one example is for example with normalized db's you use count() instead of storing column called `count` which is updated in application level during certain actions. You certainly do not need to calculate row count if you know that only certain actions can change the the table contents, but if you do introduce such column you break the denormalization of database, since now count can be set to whatever you want and break the data integrity that count() provides

instead of such stupid queries, store the count in nosql or some kind of file storage format and sync it with normalized one just in case you might need that data in external services instead

[thorn isle]

count
nooo but my magic mysql optimization bullshit is going to magically optimize it away so we can just handwave away any potential algorithmic inefficiencies like counting all the rows instead of maintaining a count of them

[grand flint]

thats what im doing currently

[flint coyote]

Well for the sake of the count-example you could use triggers if you want to keep the data intact, however that's a lot of hassle. I would assume that tables with indices don't re-count over and over again, unless of course you do a partial selection in which case you would need additional count fields in your application, which would decrease readability.

Generally I agree that databases are not necessary for single-instance applications as long as the amount of data doesn't exceed certain thresholds.

However for (micro)-services with multiple instances you need some sort of shared layer that is able to handle and roll back transactions for operations that might overlap and touch the same data. Sure, you can build that on a file storage as well but then you would have to do the same validation and might as well use a DB which handles it for you - and also ends up putting the data in a file

[grand flint]

only got a mongodb for accounts

tbh i do need a redis server from time to time but depends

tbh i didnt read anything after the first line

[sharp zenith]

uh idk

uh

this

[mortal hare]

i agree that custom implementation of persistence store might be an overkill especially in microservices architecture where overlaps can happen, my main point is that you should treat relational databases as a second class citizen and prefer using nosql for application level storage or some kind of other persistence store which stores denormalized views of centralized normalized data

[grand flint]

yeah it deff is

if u have it available, use it

if not just use traditional methods

back to the "where do u store the users theme" question

on each app? or on a database

[mortal hare]

i would store it on app since themes can sometimes suck