#help-development | SpigotMC | Page 1296

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 12:13 PM

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well i need to thank that guy for my whole career and uni degree

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that i built out of anger to his ego 😄

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:14 PM

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prob in 2020 u couldnt do much with skript

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 12:14 PM

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you could, i've use skReflect or smth like that

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where you can create custom skript expressions with bukkit api and java classes

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:15 PM

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potion?

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 12:16 PM

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negative speed maybe

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it changes the camera fov

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:16 PM

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well they use that i think but its not only this

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 PM

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it does look like it

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 PM

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but the player head is moving

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so its not that

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 PM

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hmm

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 PM

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.

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 12:17 PM

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maybe it's a few degress movement

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 12:18 PM

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That mod did not log every packet

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:18 PM

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why its so hard

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 12:19 PM

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go to config and disable ignore player move I think

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 12:20 PM

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alr

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📎 packets-2025-07-20_14-21-35.json

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 12:23 PM

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few degrees movement

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rather say minutes

warped cradle Jul 20, 2025, 1:47 PM

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How do people make queue systems

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like what if i wanna make a minigame

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set spwans

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and it makes a queue

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u join and then it tp's u to a new world

worldly ingot Jul 20, 2025, 1:55 PM

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That depends on how you want a queue system to work. If you want to queue in lobby, you can communicate with a Redis server and store a list of players in queue. Once you reach a certain size, spin up a server and throw them into a game. Or if you're doing a single-server setup, you can do the same thing but you can just do everything in-memory instead of in Redis (cause it's all on one server anyways) then throw them into a world.

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Alternatively, if you want to queue in game, put them into the world immediately and wait until the world has x amount of players

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 2:13 PM

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a waiting lobby phase/state is all you need

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 2:48 PM

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nah id trust choco with all my servers

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this guy made 85% of hypixel by himself

lean pumice Jul 20, 2025, 3:30 PM

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heyyy, the getKeys is a thing that is cached or it load all the keys at the moment?

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i use nbt-api

slender elbow Jul 20, 2025, 3:54 PM

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given that itemstacks no longer are stored as raw nbt anymore, it will get serialized to nbt each time

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also why are you casting to HashSet lol

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just use the returned Set?

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:07 PM

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?paste

undone axleBOT Jul 20, 2025, 4:07 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:09 PM

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how do you call this design pattern where you control the instantiation of certain types of objects in centralized way (just like value objects), but you implement interfaces for them only to be used from outside project's scope (lets say public api)?

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https://paste.md-5.net/eziyagogor.java

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and in implementation you use the concrete classes for safety against leaky third party implementations and to centralize certain logic with smart constructors

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:09 PM

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How can I have a Java project where one module is Java 21 and the other is Java 8? Is it possible?

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:09 PM

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what do you need it for

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:10 PM

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multi version plugin

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:11 PM

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acoustic galleon How can I have a Java project where one module is Java 21 and the other is Java ...

you can use gradle's subprojects and java plugin which allows you to setup source and output target version for each subproject

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:11 PM

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yeah gradle would be to go for anything like that

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:11 PM

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mortal hare you can use gradle's subprojects and java plugin which allows you to setup sourc...

this way ill have 1 .jar ?

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:11 PM

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you can have it technically by shading both subprojects into one

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but im not sure how to do this

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since JRE is backwards compatible with previous bytecode instructions compiled in older JRE's

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:12 PM

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if i compile my plugin on java 21 ill cant run on java 8 server

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:12 PM

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iirc

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:12 PM

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?multimodule

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if I remember there is a ? for it

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?multiversion

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:12 PM

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?1.8

undone axleBOT Jul 20, 2025, 4:12 PM

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https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

How old is Minecraft 1.8.8 today?

Too old! (Click the link to get the exact time)

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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im talking about java 8

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not 1.8

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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aint java 8 for 1.8 🙏

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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and other versions?

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like 1.9

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1.10

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1.11

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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grand flint aint java 8 for 1.8 🙏

1.12 uses java 8 iirc

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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1.12

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1.13

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1.14

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1.15

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1.16

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and yes

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finish here

mortal hare Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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1.16 uses 17

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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https://blog.jeff-media.com/maven-multi-module-setup-for-supporting-different-nms-versions/

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:13 PM

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i can use java8 plugin on 1.16 server

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:14 PM

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possibly

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:14 PM

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eternal oxide <https://blog.jeff-media.com/maven-multi-module-setup-for-supporting-different-n...

this way ill have 1 .jar and plugni will supports java 8-21?

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:14 PM

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yes

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:14 PM

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this is maven 😦

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:15 PM

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maven is the chosen build system for Spigot

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:15 PM

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im doing the same thing on gradle

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but no working

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how send screenshots here

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:16 PM

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what EXACTLY are you trying to do? A simple java 8 plugin will run fine under java 21

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:16 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/nms-multiple-versions-gradle.605115/

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft Community

Solved - NMS Multiple Versions Gradle

Ok, here we are again xD

I'm actually developing a Spigot plugin and I used NMS to add some things I couldn't with spigot API. Now, I want my plugin...

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:16 PM

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?img

undone axleBOT Jul 20, 2025, 4:16 PM

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Can't send images? That's because you're not verified! Use !verify to complete verification.
Alternatively, you can upload screenshots to any image hosting site and share the link.

Here's some screenshot utilities that you can use to upload images.
Lightshot: https://prnt.sc
Imgur: https://imgur.com/upload
Flameshot: https://flameshot.org

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:18 PM

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https://prnt.sc/QhzNzDTA-Htg

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https://prnt.sc/4VnnFM9L9JN5 but my module is using java 22

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:18 PM

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you can not build against bukkit 1.17 using java 8

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:18 PM

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eternal oxide you can not build against bukkit 1.17 using java 8

but u said was possible have 1 .jar to work with all java versions

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i need have my plugin running on java 8

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:19 PM

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no he is saying

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u cant use the 1.17 bukkit api

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with java 8

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u need to use 1.16 or any other supported api

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:19 PM

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then how multi version plugins works

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:19 PM

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yes, but you can not build in a single jar against all Spigot API versions without using modules

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:19 PM

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grand flint https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/nms-multiple-versions-gradle.605115/

?

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:20 PM

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grand flint https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/nms-multiple-versions-gradle.605115/

this dont use nms

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:21 PM

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if you are building under java 8 and want to to run on a spigot 1.8 server you can only build against the spigot 1.8 API

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:21 PM

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ik

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and im already doing this

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the problem is java version on compilling my project bro

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not this

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:21 PM

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java version and spigot versions are different

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:21 PM

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BRO IK

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:22 PM

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you can NOT reference 1.17 Spigot in a 1.8 plugin

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:22 PM

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i know lol

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and im not doing this

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my plugin is 1.8-1.21

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and im already using submodules

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:22 PM

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your build error says you are

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:22 PM

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i just use for example 1.15 spigot api on 1.15 server version

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:22 PM

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eternal oxide your build error says you are

no im not

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ur reading wrong

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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yours https://prnt.sc/QhzNzDTA-Htg

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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my build error is saying i cant compile 1.17 api bc it is modern java

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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referencing 1.17 bukkit using java 8

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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exactly

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how plugins are 1.8-1.21

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and uspports java 8

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?

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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I just said you can't do that

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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u can

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LPX are 1.8-1.21

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and supports java 8

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for example

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TAB is 1.8-1.21

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and supports java 8

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:23 PM

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thats not what I'm saying

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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then what are u sayin

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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they use modules or reflection to support other version of the spigot API

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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acoustic galleon this dont use nms

just include nms with it??

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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eternal oxide they use modules or reflection to support other version of the spigot API

but im using modules

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and isnt working

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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YOU are using java 8 for bukkit 1.17, which you can not do

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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but im using modules

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:24 PM

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incorrectly

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:25 PM

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why incorrect?

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:25 PM

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your error tells you that you are doing it incorrectly

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I use mavan so can;t tell you what is wrong with yoru gradle, but it is wrong

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:27 PM

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https://prnt.sc/loNQARRESVc-
https://prnt.sc/VfaSiMQ8k9sN

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im using modules

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but I don't understand how a . jar will have classes compiled in Java 8 and other classes in Java 21

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this is possible?

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:27 PM

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yes

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each module builds itself, then shadowJar puts them all together

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:29 PM

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https://prnt.sc/5gZwjzTeDUk6

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u know what should i put here?

eternal oxide Jul 20, 2025, 4:29 PM

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I don't gradle sorry

kind hatch Jul 20, 2025, 4:32 PM

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acoustic galleon https://prnt.sc/5gZwjzTeDUk6

Can't speak for gradle on that one, but it doesn't matter with maven if you set your compilation source and targets in your poms.

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:32 PM

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kind hatch Can't speak for gradle on that one, but it doesn't matter with maven if you set ...

ure talking chinese tom e xd

kind hatch Jul 20, 2025, 4:38 PM

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I did a quick search for gradle and it seems like you'd want to use compatibility flags in your build.gradle file.

java {
    sourceCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
    targetCompatibility = JavaVersion.VERSION_1_8
}

This is similar to how maven does it.

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https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/toolchains.html#sec:source-target-toolchain
This page describes things pretty well.

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 4:40 PM

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kind hatch I did a quick search for gradle and it seems like you'd want to use compatibilit...

idk if i need

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https://github.com/NEZNAMY/TAB/

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they didnt put anything

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and they are 1.8-1.21 plugin

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and running on java 8

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Could not determine the dependencies of task ':bukkit:shadowJar'.

Could not resolve all dependencies for configuration ':bukkit:runtimeClasspath'.
Could not resolve project :bukkit:v1_17_R1.
Required by:
project :bukkit
Dependency resolution is looking for a library compatible with JVM runtime version 8, but 'project :bukkit:v1_17_R1' is only compatible with JVM runtime version 22 or newer.

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I put what you said in the main build.gradle.kts in the bukkit module and then in the bukkit submodule which would be versions 1.8, 1.9 etc. I put java 22 in the build.gradle.kts of the minecraft version 1.17 and this happens

quasi gulch Jul 20, 2025, 4:45 PM

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Is the a way to know if the PlayerInteractEvent results in opening a block / interacting with the block or just interaction with the item in hand while looking at a block?

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Maybe they are editing the packets sent by the server?

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📎 packets-2025-07-20_14-21-35.json

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 5:10 PM

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did you try editing the pitch by a few minutes?

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just the pitch

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:11 PM

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lilac dagger did you try editing the pitch by a few minutes?

you know that it will cause jittery if i move my screen?

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 5:11 PM

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change it in craft player

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:12 PM

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It's the same thing

lilac dagger Jul 20, 2025, 5:12 PM

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it's not

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server knows of the change

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it shouldn't jitter

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:13 PM

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grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 5:13 PM

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just try to use the resourcepack that the server ur on uses

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with the same packets

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its probs shaders to get it that smooth

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i dont think u can make it without jittering fully server sided

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:14 PM

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grand flint its probs shaders to get it that smooth

If its shaders then the player shouldnt move at all

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player head

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^

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 5:14 PM

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no it probs moves it server sided

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but shaders smoothen it

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 5:31 PM

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IF it were shaders, I'd expect them to "pass" a variable to the shader to enable/disable this in some way
Should be really easy to check if they are using shaders tho, extract the RP

acoustic galleon Jul 20, 2025, 5:44 PM

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acoustic galleon I put what you said in the main build.gradle.kts in the bukkit module and then i...

?

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:56 PM

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smoky anchor IF it were shaders, I'd expect them to "pass" a variable to the shader to enable...

they are not using shaders

📎 ac84da67b3b140b36a3b0e8dba13bd4f1a9f0f4e.zip

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that has to be 100% packets then?

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 5:57 PM

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ye, just some form of teleportation

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:57 PM

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but which one?

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 5:57 PM

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instead of some api method, just do /tp :D

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again, the mod does not log every packet, only some of them

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:58 PM

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smoky anchor instead of some api method, just do /tp :D

its jittery i already tried

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 5:58 PM

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relative and set is the same ?

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 5:58 PM

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i tried everything i swear

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relative flags

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yes

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 6:02 PM

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what server is it

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 6:02 PM

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guncolony.com

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 6:04 PM

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gimme a bit

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 6:23 PM

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ok, I created logs that should tell you what they're doing
logs that start with "SC: " are I think sent from client
Idunno, I just used what that packet logger used but instead of custom formatting per packet, I just used reflection
All packets here were logged only when I held RMB - I was shooting

📎 logs.txt

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Anyways, these ones may be the info you want

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how do you send this packet via api/skript ? I have no clue

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@bold nebula

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 6:29 PM

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i will figure it out

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thanks for your time

smoky anchor Jul 20, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Oh and if you do, do tag me
I am curious lul

bold nebula Jul 20, 2025, 6:30 PM

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alr

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 7:35 PM

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hi im neww

worthy yarrow Jul 20, 2025, 7:44 PM

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Hello neww I'm NuclearKat

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 7:45 PM

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hi neww

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u said hi in every channel apart from the channel u should say hi in neww

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:01 PM

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lol mb

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so like im bored and stuff

thorn isle Jul 20, 2025, 8:05 PM

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uh huh

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:06 PM

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uh huh indeed

mortal vortex Jul 20, 2025, 8:09 PM

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potent laurel uh huh indeed

wassup gooner how r u

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:11 PM

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bruh

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so like anybody got problems wit their minecraft servers cuz i can help

worthy yarrow Jul 20, 2025, 8:17 PM

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I have so many issues with my server

mortal vortex Jul 20, 2025, 8:18 PM

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I have issues with life, can you help?

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Mainly tummy aches

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:18 PM

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potent laurel so like anybody got problems wit their minecraft servers cuz i can help

yeah

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i need someone to run it

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:19 PM

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mortal vortex Mainly tummy aches

nobody can help w tummy aches

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:22 PM

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u need someone to run ur server?

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 PM

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ye

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:23 PM

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what type of server?

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:24 PM

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survival

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:25 PM

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how many people?

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(usually online)

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:25 PM

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15-20 usually

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but like u gotta set it up 🙏

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:27 PM

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ok are you looking for a basic survival server on java ?

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:27 PM

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nah

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its w custom items

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:27 PM

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so like a mod pack?

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:27 PM

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just dm me

thorn isle Jul 20, 2025, 8:28 PM

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potent laurel so like anybody got problems wit their minecraft servers cuz i can help

give me money

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:28 PM

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ok fase just gimme a minute

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:29 PM

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im not interested thank youi

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:30 PM

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bruh

worthy yarrow Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 PM

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thorn isle give me money

+1

thorn isle Jul 20, 2025, 8:31 PM

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i'm interested in free money

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:34 PM

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same

grand flint Jul 20, 2025, 8:35 PM

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im interested in

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idk

potent laurel Jul 20, 2025, 8:37 PM

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anyways i got a plane ride so bye

worthy yarrow Jul 20, 2025, 8:39 PM

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So in CraftItemEvent, when you .setCancelled(true) or .setResult(Result.DENY), the outcome is the same correct? The cancellation of the event that is

placid estuary Jul 20, 2025, 10:04 PM

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how would i go about creating custom advancements?

sullen marlin Jul 20, 2025, 10:05 PM

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datapack or https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/UnsafeValues.html#loadAdvancement(org.bukkit.NamespacedKey,java.lang.String)

UnsafeValues (Spigot-API 1.21.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit, interface: UnsafeValues

placid estuary Jul 20, 2025, 10:05 PM

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thanks

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 10:52 PM

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I'm bored and want to create a new plugin, but I have no ideas.

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Does anyone have an idea I can implement?

young knoll Jul 20, 2025, 10:53 PM

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Make the create mod into a plugin

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 PM

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potent crescent Does anyone have an idea I can implement?

make a plugin that makes eating a cookie cause spontaneous combustion

worldly ingot Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 PM

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young knoll Make the create mod into a plugin

Nah you're just setting people up for failure

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 PM

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young knoll Make the create mod into a plugin

Send a request by email lol

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 PM

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with configurable terrain damage or purely cosmetic explosion effect

young knoll Jul 20, 2025, 10:55 PM

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Why would I send a request by email

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 10:56 PM

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young knoll Why would I send a request by email

to Waiting for the answer hahaha

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 10:56 PM

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buoyant viper with configurable terrain damage or purely cosmetic explosion effect

I didn't really get the idea. 😂

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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if u eat a cookie, u explode and die instantly

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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just?

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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and u can configure whether or not this explosion is only cosmetic (just particle effects), or an explosion that also damages terrain

young knoll Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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Instructions unclear

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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i was getting there

young knoll Jul 20, 2025, 10:57 PM

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Ate explosion, turned into a cookie

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 11:00 PM

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based on an old recommendation someone had told me when i asked a similar question bc i was out of ideas lol

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it had something to do with cookies and dying

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 11:03 PM

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wich version?

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 11:07 PM

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like which mc version?

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 11:08 PM

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ye

buoyant viper Jul 20, 2025, 11:08 PM

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events for item consume are like as old as time in spigot so it shouldnt really matter

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same for explosions i think

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ideally latest stable 😎

potent crescent Jul 20, 2025, 11:34 PM

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test the plugin

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i tested the plugin in 1.12.2 its work fine i think it shouklld be work to laster version

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well give me 5min i found a proplem

dry forum Jul 21, 2025, 12:18 AM

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    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockPlace(BlockPlaceEvent event) {```

how can i get the itemstack of what was placed

young knoll Jul 21, 2025, 12:19 AM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/block/BlockPlaceEvent.html#getItemInHand()?

dry forum Jul 21, 2025, 12:20 AM

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oh i thought that was for after they placed

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 12:25 AM

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buoyant viper events for item consume are like as old as time in spigot so it shouldnt really ...

well sorry i made evrey thing idk why the plugin isnt work evrey thing looks good idk but ill go to sllep rn sry

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 1:46 AM

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young knoll Make the create mod into a plugin

ayy this reminds me of SlimeFun

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idek if SlimeFun but that with custom models sounds like bliss

torn shuttle Jul 21, 2025, 3:28 AM

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man oh man I wish I was just working on my own game

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I am getting mighty tired of this whole juggling 5 different projects and dealing with multiversion nms bs

daring ice Jul 21, 2025, 3:41 AM

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can anyone help with an issue i have for a plugin/project i am making?

winter jungle Jul 21, 2025, 4:26 AM

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Someone here has a method to center a gui title?

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:24 AM

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can anyone help me with particle making for my mc server

    trigger:
        set {_gold} to amount of gold ingot in player's inventory
        if {_gold} <= 0:
            send "&cYou have no gold ingots to convert."
            stop
        remove {_gold} of gold ingot from player's inventory
        add {_gold} to {goldcoins::%uuid of player%}
        send "&aConverted %{_gold}% gold ingots into coins!"

or can anyone add a /ah and /ah sell (amount) to this

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 6:28 AM

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sonic geyser can anyone help me with particle making for my mc server ```command /convertgol...

Why is this not Java?

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:28 AM

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mortal vortex Why is this not Java?

i tried learning java and failed

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 6:28 AM

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rip bro

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I cant lie, I dont really know Skript. but i think they have a dedicated server?

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 6:29 AM

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sonic geyser i tried learning java and failed

Have you tried this specific plugin in java?

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:29 AM

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mortal vortex Have you tried this specific plugin in java?

i tried finding one but none have a /ah built with it

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 6:29 AM

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What do you mean?

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specifically what is "one"? A plugin?

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:31 AM

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TheGoldEconomy

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:32 AM

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mortal vortex specifically what is "one"? A plugin?

yea

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 6:32 AM

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i dont understand what ur saying

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im asking, if you've attempted to make this plugin in java directly

sonic geyser Jul 21, 2025, 6:32 AM

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mortal vortex im asking, if you've attempted to make this plugin in java directly

no

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 9:18 AM

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if you can learn skript you can learn java

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what ends up stopping many prospective programmers to ever come out of the skript bubble is that they have "a java at home" in the form of skript, so they're far less motivated to actually try and learn anything new

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it is for this reason that i sort of frown upon skript

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even if it is in principle a good gateway drug of sorts to programming

nova notch Jul 21, 2025, 9:31 AM

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skript is honestly harder to learn than java with the amount of random bullshit

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 10:12 AM

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Hello, I wonder why there is no BlockState#isLiquid method?

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I need to check if a block was liquid on BlockPlaceEvent.

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 10:15 AM

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liquid is derived from a bucket empty event

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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i think he wants to know whether the block state replaced by the placed block was liquid

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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like placing a block in the water

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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you should be able to get the type of the blockstate and then call isLiquid on it or something

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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there is no blockplaceevent for liquid though

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:20 AM

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the placed block isn't a liquid

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the replaced block is a liquid

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e.g. you place a dirt block in a lake

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or that's what i assume what he wants, dunno

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 10:21 AM

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ah he's wantign to test the original block state

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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it's no wonder nobody maintains nocheatplus

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the codebase is unmaintainable

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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thorn isle or that's what i assume what he wants, dunno

This is what I want to check. I fixed the problem by checking BlockState#getType for WATER and LAVA.

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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a million hardcoded block collision shapes and all nms access is done through obfuscated reflection

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you'll also want to check for bubble column

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that is distinct from water

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 10:24 AM

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true

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 10:26 AM

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I guess you could just check if it was AIR. if not it was a liquid.

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I don;t know of any other blocks that could exist there in a place event. Possibly crops?

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 10:28 AM

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anything that instabreaks, like tallgrass, maybe

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 10:40 AM

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nom solid blocks

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 12:27 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/legendary.127177/ How can i add icon ?

SpigotMC - High Performance Minecraft Community

legendary

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 12:27 PM

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potent crescent https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/legendary.127177/ How can i add icon ?

set resource icon on the bottom right

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 12:28 PM

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alr thankss

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i cant change the name right ?

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 12:28 PM

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u can

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its on that same section

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update resource or something

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not post upsare

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edit resource

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 12:29 PM

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grand flint edit resource

than ?

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theres no cahnge name

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change

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ahhhhh

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ok ok

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thanks

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 12:38 PM

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did you set a discord invite as the source code link

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 12:48 PM

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no lol

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 12:48 PM

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you did ...

mortal vortex Jul 21, 2025, 12:57 PM

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thorn isle did you set a discord invite as the source code link

Yeah I asked him about it and apparently he doesn’t know GitHub and you gotta join his discord and ask for the source code

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 12:59 PM

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LMAO

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poor dude when he accidentally writes a 4000 line mistake

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 1:07 PM

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Hello, what's the best way to compare mc versions ?

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 1:09 PM

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What do you want to compare

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 1:09 PM

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I want to reimplement EntityRemoveEvent for before 1.20.4, and I think the best way is extending the base EntityRemoveEvent for calling it in 1.20.4+ or in the other case, making a custom EntityRemoveEvent.

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 1:12 PM

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if you want the code to run on servers running a version that don't have the entity remove event, you can't extend the entity remove event

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because that class won't exist at runtime and class linking will fail for any class trying to extend/implement a class that doesn't exist

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 1:12 PM

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thorn isle if you want the code to run on servers running a version that don't have the ent...

I mean, extending it for when it exists, so 1.20.4 and after

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I'll try to see the best way of doing it, for now the thing I would need to is comparing versions

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And I've got some problems with my old system, maybe something also supporting snapshots could be useful, for weird server implementations

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 1:14 PM

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no clue what you are saying but checking if a class exists is simple. no need for a version check

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 1:14 PM

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if all you need to do is check whether the event class exists, yes, that is the ideal approach

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 1:14 PM

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oh yeah forgot about Class#forName 😭

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my bad

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Thanks for remembering me how to code in java x)

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 1:59 PM

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chrome beacon you did ...

no i didnt

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ohhh i did 😂

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@thorn isle i was want do the link in support link but by mistake i pot it there

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lol

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i will never add more src 😂 I will learn on GitHub. Then I will publish src

potent crescent Jul 21, 2025, 2:05 PM

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grand flint poor dude when he accidentally writes a 4000 line mistake

no bro i just I didn't think about posting there but it's easy i think

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 2:58 PM

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@EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST)

i dont wanna do anything if the event is cancelled. do i have to check if event.isCancelled() and return.. or do cancelled events not get passed?

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 2:59 PM

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see the other parameter for the annotation, ignoreCancelled

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the default value means that your listener will receive cancelled events

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the non-default value will cause the cancelled events to be ignored by your listener

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:01 PM

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okay thanks. so i have 1 listener which checks for EntityDamageEntityEvent, and if they're 2 players, it gives them antilogout for 30seconds. and in another plugin i sometimes cancell the event if 2 players are from the same clan
so what values do i set in these plugins?

should i do: antilogout - highest
clans - lowers ?

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or like maybe antilogout - highest
clans - normal
like how do i pick

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:03 PM

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MONITOR fires last and LOWEST fires first

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the higher the priority the later it fires

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:03 PM

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yeah but there are values between

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so which one...

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:03 PM

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well

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the higher the priority

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the later it fires

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so to fire after another listener, your priority needs to be higher than that other listener's priority

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lowest -> low -> normal -> high -> highest -> monitor

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 3:04 PM

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If you want a plugin to cancel the event and prevent the second plugin seeing it, you need to cancel at a low priority

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:04 PM

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ok i just cared about other plugins too

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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impossible to know without knowing what those other plugins listen at

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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i guess ill do highest and lowest

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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the priority system is kind of half baked

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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thorn isle impossible to know without knowing what those other plugins listen at

yeah..

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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thorn isle the priority system is kind of half baked

why

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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generally speaking i guess regular listeners fire at normal, protection plugins usually at low

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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probably a good idea to avoind lowest and highest as those are mostly used by service plugins like permissions

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:05 PM

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myeah

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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yeeea

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thats why im asking

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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monitor is for when you don't change anything about the event

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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so high and low, or hight and normal

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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so if your listener is read-only, use monitor

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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actually

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idont change event in antilogout

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:06 PM

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what does antilogout do in this context

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if it fucks with the player's inventory or something, that kind of counts as changing the event

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:07 PM

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@EventHandler
    public void onEntityDamageEntity(EntityDamageByEntityEvent event) {
        if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof Player victim)) return;
        if (!(event.getDamager() instanceof Player damager)) return;

        antiLogout.addAntiLogout(victim);
        antiLogout.addAntiLogout(damager);
    }

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no

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its just

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saving the player to a map

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and displaying text

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to them

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:07 PM

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yeah monitor is fine

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:07 PM

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thanks

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so i guess ill keep the clans

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one

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at.... low

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:08 PM

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what does that do

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:08 PM

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just cancel the event if players are in the same clan

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:08 PM

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that's sort of a protection plugin, i'd say low is about right for that

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doesn't really matter whether it's worldguard or clans or whatever other no-pvp plugin that ends up cancelling it

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:09 PM

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okayy thannks

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:09 PM

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i'd expect stuff like custom damage listeners to run at normal or maybe high, so you want to fire before those to make sure they see you cancelled the event

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:09 PM

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low priority gets the event last right?

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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no

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first

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highest ss later

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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thorn isle the higher the priority the later it fires

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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yeah this is messed up, in APIs like NeoForge I think LOW is the last, however in spigot LOW means the higher priorty

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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cause it can override so its higher priority

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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LOWEST, then LOW, then NORMAL, then HIGH, then HIGHEST, then MONITOR

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:10 PM

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it does make sense yeah, think about it as who gets the "last word" on what happens

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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Lowest first first because higher priority events can alter the state of the event

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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the later you fire the more decisions you can override

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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mellow edge yeah this is messed up, in APIs like NeoForge I think LOW is the last, however i...

highest being last makes some sense, and lowest being last makes some sense, but other sense

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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ah oof I reverse psycho'd myself

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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now what actually makes no sense and is objectively shit is the naming of ignoreCancelled

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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If I set the join message to "blah" in lowest, then I, as a higher priority listener, can overwrite "blah" to then be "hello!"

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You can blame md_5 for that one Kappa

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:11 PM

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I thought highest prio meant first but lowest actual control over the outcome

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:12 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/commits/6efe9a85e54b395858cee6aa8afc1f9023da18bf

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:12 PM

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worldly ingot If I set the join message to "blah" in lowest, then I, as a higher priority list...

but also, the lowest, can cancell events so highest doesnt do anything. but its also the highest priority handler's own decision to not handle cancelled events. so i''d say the name is good

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 3:12 PM

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pure dagger highest being last makes some sense, and lowest being last makes some sense, but...

not my problem; neoforge is not owned by me

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:12 PM

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coool

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wasnt the priority thing just a number before?

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not an enu

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m

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:12 PM

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pure dagger but also, the lowest, can cancell events so highest doesnt do anything. but its ...

I can cancel event on lowest priority, but uncancel it on highest priority ;P

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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should've been a double 🤡

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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For that granular control

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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it's kind of clownish but it would mean that you can squeeze in between whichever pair of listeners you have to

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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just listen to the event on all priorities and check if it changes after each one

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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which is sometimes an issue

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:13 PM

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Or you can be a menace and schedule your events at priorioty 1.00000000000001

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:14 PM

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well, user error

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ideally i suppose we would use named eventhandler registrations, sort of like the netty pipeline, and make in-code declarations about what we want to run before/after; with detection for circular dependencies

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but that's borderline impossible with annotations

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:15 PM

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worldly ingot I can cancel event on lowest priority, but _uncancel_ it on highest priority ;P

yeah as i said its higher pirority decicion to ignore cancell, they dont hav eto

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:15 PM

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That would have been my suggestion if I were to rewrite it :p I think Fabric does this with event phases or something

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 3:15 PM

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i'm sure we could jerryrig that double priority into it while maintaining legacy priority compat

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 3:16 PM

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worldly ingot That would have been my suggestion if I were to rewrite it :p I think Fabric doe...

wdym?

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doesn't fabric provide callbacks

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:17 PM

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yeah

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 3:17 PM

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ohh maybe you meant they have multiple stages for the same event

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 3:17 PM

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but those callbacks can be called in phases or whatever

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the fact that its callbacks doesnt change anything about the priority system

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:17 PM

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so wasn't it a number instead of enum before?

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:17 PM

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In Bukkit? I don't believe so

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It's been an enum for as long as I can remember

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 3:18 PM

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oki

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 3:20 PM

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Does v1_19_R3 depend on the version? If it is 1.19.1 1.19.2 etc? Or is v1_19_R3 for any version of 1.19?

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 3:21 PM

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it is for a specific release of 1.19

worldly ingot Jul 21, 2025, 3:22 PM

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Server revisions are incremented when there are significant internal server changes

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It's a reminder to developers to update their references to server internals between versions. Their bumping criteria is largely arbitrary though

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 4:50 PM

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new to using this thing... should i just upload it through the website or somehow else, and how to not add the target dir, cause someone 8 months ago told me not to

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oblique furnace Jul 21, 2025, 4:55 PM

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How do I make my code a .jar?

gray saddle Jul 21, 2025, 4:55 PM

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is there an event for when an entity collides into a block?

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:57 PM

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oblique furnace How do I make my code a .jar?

on the right side, expand the build tasks and click on the jar task

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 4:57 PM

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gray saddle is there an event for when an entity collides into a block?

what is collides

gray saddle Jul 21, 2025, 4:57 PM

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pure dagger what is collides

say a chicken runs straight into a block

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for example a log

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 4:57 PM

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i dont think thats an event

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but

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i dont know

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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iirc there is only playerMoveEvent for players

gray saddle Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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hmm ok

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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which just fires whenever the player moves

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but

oblique furnace Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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pseudo hazel on the right side, expand the build tasks and click on the jar task

where do I find it then?

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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?xy

undone axleBOT Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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https://xyproblem.info/

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:58 PM

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under here

oblique furnace Jul 21, 2025, 4:59 PM

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No, the jar file😅

gray saddle Jul 21, 2025, 4:59 PM

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undone axle <https://xyproblem.info/>

very helpful 🙌

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 4:59 PM

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oh

gray saddle Jul 21, 2025, 4:59 PM

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but ill try sumthin real quick

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 5:00 PM

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it will be in build/libs or something by default

oblique furnace Jul 21, 2025, 5:00 PM

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ok, thanks

pseudo hazel Jul 21, 2025, 5:00 PM

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<folder with the build.gradle file>/build/libs

wooden bay Jul 21, 2025, 5:03 PM

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pure dagger new to using this thing... should i just upload it through the website or someho...

U can use the IntelliJ plugin

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Add a .gitignore to ignore the target folder
You can use a template for it

wooden bay Jul 21, 2025, 5:04 PM

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wooden bay U can use the IntelliJ plugin

I recommend Github Desktop

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 5:06 PM

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thanks

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Hello, how can I store an inventory in a PDC ?

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all the content and datas

summer scroll Jul 21, 2025, 5:49 PM

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cinder abyss Hello, how can I store an inventory in a PDC ?

https://gist.github.com/graywolf336/8153678

Gist

Serialize and deserialize the player's inventory, including armor a...

Serialize and deserialize the player's inventory, including armor and content. - BukkitSerialization.java

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 5:49 PM

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thanks !

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 6:32 PM

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what is paperweight.paperDevBundle(version) on gradle

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 6:33 PM

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That's the paper dev bundle version

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 6:33 PM

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(AHHHH SOMEONE SAID PAPER 🗣️ )

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 6:34 PM

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chrome beacon That's the paper dev bundle version

what version of Paper to depend on

eternal oxide Jul 21, 2025, 6:34 PM

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I'm here with my pitchfork

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 6:34 PM

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and yeah

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?whereami

undone axleBOT Jul 21, 2025, 6:34 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

▶ Play video

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 6:36 PM

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chrome beacon what version of Paper to depend on

1,20.6

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 6:39 PM

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Read the userdev guide or ask on their discord

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 6:42 PM

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im muted there

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 6:42 PM

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W

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 6:42 PM

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bc i was doign 1.17 plugin

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 6:47 PM

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doubt that was the reason

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ah you kept asking even after being told it's not supported

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 6:49 PM

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ye

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 7:20 PM

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make a discord alt and dodge the ban, that's what the rest of us (probably like 20% of paper userbase) do

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or like you could try appealing the ban but glhf

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 7:20 PM

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discord bans are ip bans

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(from experience) sad

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 7:21 PM

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sorry
give me 1 day just pls

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i alr tried

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xd

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im muted for 7 days

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someone want ask for me there? xd

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 7:22 PM

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grand flint discord bans are ip bans

yeah you'll have to either get a dynamic ip from your isp, or use a vpn; and sooner or later you'll have to start using burner SMS services, i recommend onlinesim

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 7:24 PM

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thanks

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ran out of mine

nova notch Jul 21, 2025, 7:40 PM

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this might be controversial but just don't get banned

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ur banned for a reason

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 7:41 PM

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You've been banned.
Reason
During a timeout for repeated outdated support requests, user continued to hassle staff in DM for support with outdated versions
Punishment: 687e97cd8aa5eb733c9ba76c

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now im banned

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magiciana
[DNZN]
— 16:50
sorry
give me 1 day just pls
magiciana
[DNZN]
— 20:33
i nheed helppp
Imagem
i alr added paperweight

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i send this to a staff xd

nova notch Jul 21, 2025, 7:42 PM

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well that's your problem now deal with it yourself

tropic knoll Jul 21, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Please do not bother other Discords with complaints about our bans. We have an appeal system. Also, please stop DMing me for support we already said wouldn't be provided. 😞

acoustic galleon Jul 21, 2025, 8:00 PM

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tropic knoll Please do not bother other Discords with complaints about our bans. We have an a...

i really dont understand

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where can i do appeal'

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:04 PM

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this is the only reason why paper doesn't have a 100% market share yet

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it's only 80% because 20% of the bukkit ecosystem is banned from their discord

fickle mantle Jul 21, 2025, 8:24 PM

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how do I open a working anvil inventory?

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:26 PM

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Hello, how can I simulate correct lightning (like blocks) for ItemDisplay when there is a light source other than the sky ?
The ItemDisplay is the darkest bone block, and the real bone block is the other one

The second picture is my light reproduction without the light source, and it's pretty accurate

Here's how I calculate the light :```java
// Precise lightning: check the light level of the block in all cartesian directions
byte maxLight = 0;
for (BlockFace blockFace : BlockFace.values()) {
if(!blockFace.isCartesian()) {
continue;
}

byte actualLight = block.getRelative(blockFace).getLightFromSky();
if(actualLight > maxLight) {
    maxLight = actualLight;
}

}
this.spawnedDisplay.setBrightness(new Display.Brightness(block.getLightFromBlocks(), maxLight));```
Also, I think I don't really spot the difference between blockLight and skyLight for the ItemDisplay Brightness, if someone could explain it, I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:27 PM

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set sky light to the actual light from the sky and block light to the actual light from blocks

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they both are used for the color blending operation

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beyond that, the difference you see is just ambient occlusion being absent for the display entity

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or smooth lighting

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:29 PM

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do you know how I can simulate actual vanilla client lightning ?

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:30 PM

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it's a bit difficult and somewhat impossible because as said there's no smooth lighting or ambient occlusion for display entities, and vanilla lighting is per block face while for display entities it controls the light for the entire model

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is there a solid block in the space the display entity is in?

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:31 PM

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thorn isle is there a solid block in the space the display entity is in?

yes

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:31 PM

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that means the light from blocks at that location is zero

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shove the block light get into that cartesian direction loop

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and similarly take the maximum

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:32 PM

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thorn isle shove the block light get into that cartesian direction loop

what do you mean ? (I don't understand this in english lol)
Like, putting the block itself in the relative block faces in the loop ?

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:32 PM

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if you want more accurate per-face lighting, spawn 6 block displays, one for each face, and use the scale transform to flatten them so they're 2d planes; and then do the light get's per-face and apply them to that face only

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 8:32 PM

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cinder abyss what do you mean ? (I don't understand this in english lol) Like, putting the bl...

block.getLightFromBlocks() is always zero

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because block is a solid block

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look at the adjacent blocks

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just as you do with skylight

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:33 PM

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I see, thanks

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:33 PM

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thorn isle if you want more accurate per-face lighting, spawn 6 block displays, one for eac...

that would be very accurate I guess lol

left jay Jul 21, 2025, 8:33 PM

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can someone explain how my updateusableweaponname is hitting its null error when an item should def have it's key?

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:34 PM

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thanks for your help !

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 8:52 PM

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thorn isle look at the adjacent blocks

damn it works as I wanted now, thanks !

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it's more accurate

fickle mantle Jul 21, 2025, 9:00 PM

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how do I open a working anvil inventory?

slender elbow Jul 21, 2025, 9:14 PM

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MenuType.ANVIL.idkidk(player)

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:23 PM

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Hi! I'm working on a Minecraft plugin where I want to display a custom model on an armor stand's head using CustomModelData.
This is my gold_ingot.json file in my resource pack:

{
  "parent": "item/generated",
  "textures": {
    "layer0": "item/gold_ingot"
  },
  "overrides": [
    { "predicate": { "custom_model_data": 1 }, "model": "item/gold_bar" },
    { "predicate": { "custom_model_data": 2 }, "model": "item/vault1" },
    { "predicate": { "custom_model_data": 3 }, "model": "item/vault2" },
    { "predicate": { "custom_model_data": 4 }, "model": "item/vault3" },
    { "predicate": { "custom_model_data": 5 }, "model": "item/vault4" }
  ]
}```
In my plugin, I'm creating an ItemStack like this:

```java
ItemStack item = new ItemStack(Material.GOLD_INGOT);
ItemMeta meta = item.getItemMeta();
meta.setCustomModelData(2);
item.setItemMeta(meta);

armorStand.setHelmet(item);```

But when I run the plugin, the armor stand just shows the regular gold ingot — not the custom model from vault1.json.

What am I doing wrong?
How do I properly display a custom item model (from my resource pack) as the helmet on an armor stand?

eternal night Jul 21, 2025, 9:24 PM

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what version?

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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1.21+

eternal night Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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specific version pls

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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1.21.4

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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this changed considerably in 1.21.4

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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agile river Hi! I'm working on a Minecraft plugin where I want to display a custom model on ...

why u suing armor stands?

eternal night Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Yea

grand flint Jul 21, 2025, 9:25 PM

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this isnt 2018

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custom model datas arent numbers anymore

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u provide the model id

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like mymodel:fire_sword

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use display entities

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:33 PM

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Oh okay, I'm still pretty new to all this so I was just experimenting with armor stands.
Right now, I have a custom model on an item, and I'm rotating the armor stand's head by 90 degrees when you click it kind of like a simple animation.
But now I understand that in 1.21.4, you don't use numeric custom_model_data anymore, and instead use model names like mymodel:fire_sword. So I’ll need to switch to that format.
Do display entities also support this kind of setup? Like, can you rotate them the same way you would rotate an armor stand’s head? Just wondering if they work the same for animation-like effects.

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 9:41 PM

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they use a slightly different notation for the rotation

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armor stands use euler angles

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display entities use transformation matrices, which are more powerful (they can scale and shear in addition to just rotate) but a bit more complicated to deal with

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you can provide the rotations as quaternions, for which fairly well-defined utilities exist to translate between euler angle, axis angle, and quaternion

fickle mantle Jul 21, 2025, 9:43 PM

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slender elbow MenuType.ANVIL.idkidk(player)

.builder().build(player) or .create(player, title) ?

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Okay tysm, but is it even possible to get custom model data onto an armor stand using the new method? And if so, how would you do that, or is it only possible with display entities?

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 9:45 PM

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yes

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there are text displays, item displays, and block displays

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for custom models you want the item display

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which is functionally identical to an armor stand wearing an item on its head, but without the hitbox and other undesired things that an armorstand comes with

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as in using the api you just shove an itemstack on it, same stack as you would equip on the armor stand

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as for what metadata you put in the itemstack and how you do it and how you make that work with your resourcepack depends a bit on whether you're using paper or spigot

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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spigot

thorn isle Jul 21, 2025, 9:49 PM

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for the resourcepack side, the format is quite different in .4 than it was before, i'd recommend reading the minecraftwiki to get a grasp of what the data looks like now, and then maybe ask in some vanilla/datapack discord about how to write a resourcepack for that version, and then ask here or at paper how you'd get the data you need to get on the item

agile river Jul 21, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Okay, it seems complicated but I will do my best, thank you very much. ❤️

tacit coral Jul 21, 2025, 9:56 PM

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Anyone know how to create entity metadata packets in 1.21.5? Getting an error with this

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            this.entityMetadata = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().createPacket(PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_METADATA);
            this.entityMetadata.getIntegers().write(0, target.getEntityId());

            WrappedDataWatcher watcher = new WrappedDataWatcher();
            WrappedDataWatcher.WrappedDataWatcherObject wObj = new WrappedDataWatcher.WrappedDataWatcherObject(17, WrappedDataWatcher.Registry.get((Type) Byte.class));
            watcher.setObject(wObj, (byte)127);
            this.entityMetadata.getWatchableCollectionModifier().write(0, watcher.getWatchableObjects()); ```

mellow edge Jul 21, 2025, 10:10 PM

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tacit coral Anyone know how to create entity metadata packets in 1.21.5? Getting an error wi...

What are you trying to do?

tacit coral Jul 21, 2025, 10:12 PM

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mellow edge What are you trying to do?

I'm using packets to modify player skins - when i refresh the player using playerInfoRemove/Add, I see them without the second (hat) layer on the skin

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I read you have to use the metadata packet to get the skin layer visibile

echo basalt Jul 21, 2025, 10:13 PM

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tacit coral ``` this.entityMetadata = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().crea...

This changed in 1.19.4 to a list of Watchable Objects

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.

tacit coral Jul 21, 2025, 10:13 PM

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echo basalt This changed in 1.19.4 to a list of Watchable Objects

watcher.getWatchableObjects() returns a list of WatchableObjects

echo basalt Jul 21, 2025, 10:14 PM

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I mean a list of data values

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they're different

tacit coral Jul 21, 2025, 10:15 PM

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ok so this would be valid for 1.21?

echo basalt Jul 21, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Yup

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 10:40 PM

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ok so i went to the "git" tab in intellij, i clicked some 'create local repository' thing, and now its all red and i dont really want to know how that works, just how to cancel that for now lol 😭

echo basalt Jul 21, 2025, 10:40 PM

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delete .git folder

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 10:44 PM

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where is that?

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oh i found that

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now do i ignore this

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before, there was 'version control' now its written 'git'... why??

buoyant viper Jul 21, 2025, 10:51 PM

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intellij is anti-mercurial /j

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 10:52 PM

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I just have all the version control plugins disabled

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I manage git via cmd when I need it

pine forge Jul 21, 2025, 10:53 PM

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I am getting these errors from my plugin whenever the server closes and i want to know if anybody knows of a way to fix them

I am running a websocket connection with socket.io and disconnecting from it in onDisable

📎 message.txt

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 10:53 PM

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buoyant viper intellij is anti-mercurial /j

whats that mean

buoyant viper Jul 21, 2025, 10:54 PM

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mercurial is another form of VCS

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(i think)

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:00 PM

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pine forge I am getting these errors from my plugin whenever the server closes and i want t...

make sure you block onDisable when disconnecting, otherwise plugin disable logic is going to run before your socket closes

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also, obligatory

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?whereami

undone axleBOT Jul 21, 2025, 11:00 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

▶ Play video

pure dagger Jul 21, 2025, 11:02 PM

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buoyant viper mercurial is another form of VCS

==so what does it mean its anti mercucrial

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:02 PM

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pure dagger ==so what does it mean its anti mercucrial

that it isn't really made to be used with mercurial, thought I wouldn't particularly say that

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their git integration is definitely better than the mercurial one, but the mercurial integration is fine on its own

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:15 PM

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How can I set the scale of an nms text display -- I am taking a bukkit text display entity and creating an nms copy of it with different text so I can refresh entity data with that nms display and make it show different text :)

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like per player text practically using packets but I just need to be able to set the scale of the nms display

young knoll Jul 21, 2025, 11:17 PM

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It’s part of the transformation matrix

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:18 PM

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how can I use that?

chrome beacon Jul 21, 2025, 11:19 PM

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with the set transformation method

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:21 PM

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fresh timber How can I set the scale of an nms text display -- I am taking a bukkit text disp...

if you're going to do that, why not just spawn a different text display per player

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display entities are dirt cheap so having many of them doesn't really affect anything, and it is easier to manage

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:21 PM

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sly topaz if you're going to do that, why not just spawn a different text display per play...

eh too expensive

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I don't like hiding a ton of entities

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:21 PM

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fresh timber eh too expensive

you might think that but it really isn't

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:21 PM

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it gets annoying

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:25 PM

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TextDisplay display = someWorld.spawn(player.getLocation(), TextDisplay.class, display -> {
    display.setVisibleByDefault(false);
    // configure display
}
player.showEntity(MyPlugin.instance(), display);

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just like that, you have per-player displays

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but if you insist on doing it the way you're doing right now, make sure to listen to the entity metadata packet and apply your changes there, otherwise they're going to get reverted when if they leave the chunk (aka untrack the entity)

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:27 PM

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but then I gotta run like a billion bukkit runnables for each one which seems hard to manage tbh

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:27 PM

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sly topaz but if you insist on doing it the way you're doing right now, make sure to liste...

I apply the changes when they track it

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:27 PM

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fresh timber I apply the changes when they track it

should be good enough then

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:27 PM

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fresh timber but then I gotta run like a billion bukkit runnables for each one which seems ha...

I don't see why that would be the case

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:28 PM

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I update them

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regularly

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:28 PM

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you mean like, in order to know which display to set when setting the text/transformation?

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you can do it in a single runnable, you'd just have to have a Map<UUID, UUID>

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:29 PM

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sly topaz you can do it in a single runnable, you'd just have to have a Map<UUID, UUID>

well id have to have a map of <uuid, set<text display>> probably

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cus there's like a hundred displays per player

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:29 PM

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sure, that works too, or you could use Guava's Multimap as well

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I would go one step further and just make a HologramInfo record which holds the text display's uuid (or a WeakReference<TextDisplay>, either way works probably) and other information like update time

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:31 PM

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well let's see how hard it is to reload after this, rn it takes about 2 ms to reload displays

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:31 PM

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sly topaz I would go one step further and just make a HologramInfo record which holds the ...

what?

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:31 PM

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fresh timber what?

I imagine not every text display updates at the same rate

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:32 PM

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sly topaz I imagine not every text display updates at the same rate

no they all update once per second then they update for certain events

I plan on using map<uuid, map<string, text display>>
where uuid is the players uuid, and string is the name of the display for updating specific ones

cinder abyss Jul 21, 2025, 11:33 PM

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thorn isle just as you do with skylight

now very hard to spot the fake one ahaha

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:33 PM

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fresh timber no they all update once per second then they update for certain events I plan o...

is there a reason you would have a string id instead of just, a Multimap<UUID, UUID> and track them by uuid?

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:33 PM

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sly topaz is there a reason you would have a string id instead of just, a Multimap<UUID, U...

sooo I can update specific ones?

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like say I wanted to update the player's text display that is for their money named "money" I could call updatedisplay(map.get(playeruuid).get("money"))

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updatedisplay will, well, update the display

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:34 PM

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I don't know which is the better option tbh, it may not matter either way

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I was going to say that you could just iterate through the values but either way works

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ah, but don't put the entity on the map, if you're going to do that then use a WeakHashMap or just use the UUID instead

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:37 PM

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why?

young knoll Jul 21, 2025, 11:37 PM

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Memory leaks

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Keeping the entity refrence around after the entity unloads

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:38 PM

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ok well ig I'll just call getentity then on the uuid

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:40 PM

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it shouldn't happen if you make sure to remove the entity whenever it is dead and/or invalidated, but most people don't bother with that

fresh timber Jul 21, 2025, 11:40 PM

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I mean yeah I'll just .remove() it when the player leaves or server shuts down

sly topaz Jul 21, 2025, 11:41 PM

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I guess since these are text displays, it should be fine like that

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I am now curious which collection would have better performance, a nested map or a guava Table in this scenario

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the Table has better semantics for this kind of thing but I don't know if it'd beat the nested map performance wise. Not that it would matter that much for this scenario where there is just about a hundred elements per column

tacit coral Jul 22, 2025, 12:07 AM

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echo basalt Yup

Works! Ty.

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 1:32 AM

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does PluginDisableEvent run for your own plugin in your plugin?

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 1:36 AM

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fresh timber does `PluginDisableEvent` run for your own plugin in your plugin?

the event is called before JavaPlugin::setEnabled which is the method that calls onDisable so I would like to say yes. Better to try it and make sure though

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/plugin/java/JavaPluginLoader.java#346-381 here's the chunk of code that handles plugin disable logic for reference

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 1:43 AM

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Yes, it does btw

    @EventHandler
    public void onStop(PluginDisableEvent event) {

        Bukkit.broadcast(mm("<red>PLUGIN SHUTDOWN EVENT EXECUTED"));
    }

In onEnable()

        Bukkit.getScheduler().runTaskLater(getPlugin(), () -> {
            getServer().getPluginManager().disablePlugin(this);
        }, 20 * 10);

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 1:44 AM

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honestly I forgot that event exists lol

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 1:44 AM

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I use it in my classes cus its so annoying to cram it all into main class onDisable

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makes a giant main class

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 1:59 AM

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sly topaz display entities are dirt cheap so having many of them doesn't really affect any...

its exactly the same speed

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almost to the microsecond

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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fresh timber its exactly the same speed

what do you mean exactly

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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like to reload all of the players text displays it takes 2200 microseconds again

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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the Table thing or using multiple entities that are hidden by default instead of an entity that you modify their entity metadata

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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yes

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:05 AM

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welp, I told you they're dirt cheap lol

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:06 AM

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true but now I'm also realizing this is overall pretty expensive, like if I had 100 players online just the displays alone would be taking up 20% of the miliseconds we have per second, and thats if there is only 20 displays

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I will prob get to 50+ displays in future

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but maybe thats just my hardware

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cus rn I'm localhosting

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so we'll see

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server is on 7th gen intel soooo

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:08 AM

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The more it scales, the more the jvm will try to optimize hot paths too so it might not be all that bad

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Then again, at 100 players everything starts becoming an issue

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:09 AM

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yeah we'll see, if I need to I can just increase the time

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:09 AM

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Servers nowadays are barely able to hold 50 with good performance

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:09 AM

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yeah thats why I made my server with the ability to do lobbies in mind

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in case I need to I can do that

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 2:10 AM

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It’s mostly why projects like Folia and MultiPaper are becoming popular, the vanilla server just doesn’t scale

fresh timber Jul 22, 2025, 2:11 AM

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also my server is very customized but requires like 0 chunk gen and 0 entity spawning

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so should be able to handle a decent amount on good hardware

pastel axle Jul 22, 2025, 3:16 AM

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Am I reading correctly that to use chat components in the bossbar, the most common solution at the moment is adventure?

buoyant viper Jul 22, 2025, 3:56 AM

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pastel axle Am I reading correctly that to use chat components in the bossbar, the most comm...

@worldly ingot when full bungee chat component integration 😞😞😞🙏🏻

pastel axle Jul 22, 2025, 3:56 AM

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I'd assume the PR needs rebasing and reviewing 😛

worthy yarrow Jul 22, 2025, 4:00 AM

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fresh timber I use it in my classes cus its so annoying to cram it all into main class onDisa...

Usually I’ll just delegate it to single method calls for cleanup related stuff, for sure still end up with a modest sized onDisable but at least it’s neat

buoyant viper Jul 22, 2025, 4:06 AM

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worthy yarrow Usually I’ll just delegate it to single method calls for cleanup related stuff, ...

the good old <system>.unload() or <system>.save() chain in onDisable 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

worthy yarrow Jul 22, 2025, 4:06 AM

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Like I said, at least it’s neat

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 7:53 AM

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is it possible to create a map item with a set destination? wanting to remake villager trades but i cant really remake the cartographer without their special maps

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:07 AM

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Yeahp.

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I think even commands allow it too which is nice.

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:08 AM

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i mean with spigot

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:08 AM

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Yeah yeah 1 sec

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I think you'd just create a new filled map item stack, you can cast item meta to MapMeta, then there should a getter and setter for "view" or something. Or you can create a new with Bukkit.createMap. Either way you'll want a MapView object... and I think you're smart enough to figure it out from there (just read the javadoc).

Theres also #addRenderer which should allow you to set those banner icons? iunno the implementation of that but I think you can write text on the map too with MapCanvas

MapView (Spigot-API 1.21.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.map, interface: MapView

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@hushed spindle

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:14 AM

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i dont see a way to add a structure destination to this, or would i need to figure out where certain structures are another way?

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:15 AM

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wait

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:15 AM

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i know you can make a map for a certain location, thats not the issue, i want one of those exploration maps that people can buy from cartographers that leads them to a generated structure

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:19 AM

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i have no clue how those maps work internally or even ingame since i've never used them

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:19 AM

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You'll need to use NMS, i had a look.

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:19 AM

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but you could maybe find a structure using the whatever method lets you do that on World iirc, and then set a marker on the map for that position

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:20 AM

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StructureSearchResult will provide you the structure. As I mentioned you can use MapView to add a custom render for a banner marker and give it text, but you cant use the icons like the "red x" for treasure or woodland mansion icon.

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:20 AM

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im ok with using nms, where should i look?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:20 AM

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using nms generally involves looking around for yourself

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:20 AM

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yea but since they just said they looked before..

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:20 AM

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map related classes are a good place to start but you probably knew that already

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:22 AM

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You can add these markers (and text) to an image, with the location of a structure. WITHOUT NMS. But you wont be able to add those custom icons.

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StructureSearchResult result = player.getWorld().locateNearestStructure(...) will give you a structure, then you can just make a banner for it.

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:23 AM

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so a good approach would be to grab the location with a structure search result and use spigot again to make the actual map for it

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:23 AM

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mortal vortex I think you'd just create a new filled map item stack, you can cast item meta to...

^ as i mentioned here, you can use addRenderer to render banners

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Yeah

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:23 AM

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sick

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thank you so much

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:24 AM

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skibidi toilet.

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:24 AM

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very sigma rizz of you my lord

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:25 AM

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sigma sigma boy sigma boy

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:37 AM

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that's kind of odd, i'd assume the cross treasure icon would be treated the same internally as these other map markers

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are treasure maps handled somehow specially internally?

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:40 AM

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mate, I'd have no clue

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I just read the MapMeta and MapRenderer. I cant see anywhere that you could cast a StructureSearchResult

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:42 AM

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it looks like the MapCursor Type enum does include a red cross icon

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so at least the marker should be doable

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:42 AM

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That should, I think you can change its color too.

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But... others... idk

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@hushed spindle okay nvm @thorn isle was right

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I didnt open the MapCursor.Type enum because i thought that would just be the banners.

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You can do literally everything

hushed spindle Jul 22, 2025, 8:44 AM

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even better

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thank you sigma skibidi ohio fanum tax males

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:45 AM

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so: #locateNearestStructure from World > grab location > new marker > marker enum to the type of structure > render it > return MapView > get MapMeta > apply to itemstack

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:45 AM

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hushed spindle thank you sigma skibidi ohio fanum tax males

im... not even gonna bother correcting it. thanks sigma

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:45 AM

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        public MerchantOffer getOffer(Entity trader, RandomSource random) {
            if (trader.level() instanceof ServerLevel serverLevel) {
                if (!serverLevel.paperConfig().environment.treasureMaps.enabled) return null; // Paper - Configurable cartographer treasure maps
                BlockPos blockPos = serverLevel.findNearestMapStructure(this.destination, trader.blockPosition(), 100, !serverLevel.paperConfig().environment.treasureMaps.findAlreadyDiscoveredVillager); // Paper - Configurable cartographer treasure maps
                if (blockPos != null) {
                    ItemStack itemStack = MapItem.create(serverLevel, blockPos.getX(), blockPos.getZ(), (byte)2, true, true);
                    MapItem.renderBiomePreviewMap(serverLevel, itemStack);
                    MapItemSavedData.addTargetDecoration(itemStack, blockPos, "+", this.destinationType);
                    itemStack.set(DataComponents.ITEM_NAME, Component.translatable(this.displayName));
                    return new MerchantOffer(
                        new ItemCost(Items.EMERALD, this.emeraldCost), Optional.of(new ItemCost(Items.COMPASS)), itemStack, this.maxUses, this.villagerXp, 0.2F
                    );
                } else {
                    return null;
                }
            } else {
                return null;
            }
        }

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all of this should be doable over the api, except maybe for that renderBiomePreviewMap call

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without it, the map will appear either blank or filled

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:47 AM

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vcs, your profile picture looks like the narrator from spongebob cosplaying as an extremist

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:47 AM

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it's one of the guys in my unit from back when i was in the military

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:47 AM

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How many iraqis you smoke?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:47 AM

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he had catastrophic eye problems in one eye so he had to use an eyepatch over his better eye for a while

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we didn't have any of course so we cobbled one together from bootlaces and a cloth from a rifle cleaning kit

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:48 AM

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ohhh thats why it looks so goofy

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and the keffiyeh?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:49 AM

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just for the picture

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doesn't look like the api exposes the preview render call

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 8:50 AM

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where were you stationed?

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mayb random lol

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 8:51 AM

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public ItemStack createExplorerMap(World world, Location location, StructureType structureType, int radius, boolean findUnexplored) {
there's this on CraftServer for creating an explorer map, but it'll try actually searching for a structure; you can't the mark to an arbitrary position

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i'm not sure if you could maybe manually place a structure there and then use this to generate a map for it

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alternatively you could copy paste the actual preview render method from nms and put it in your own map renderer

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it's around 100 lines of nested x y z biome check loops

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should be fairly straight forward with a bit of elbow grease

pine forge Jul 22, 2025, 9:24 AM

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sly topaz make sure you block onDisable when disconnecting, otherwise plugin disable logic...

Ah that makes sense how do i do that?

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 9:33 AM

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i thought it made sense?

torn shuttle Jul 22, 2025, 9:34 AM

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woo

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I did it

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the models plugin is now full async

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0.01% server use bby

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 9:54 AM

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Hello, I'm trying to serialize inventories and their information (holder, size and title), but when trying to save and load an inventory full of full shulker boxes, it crashes. Here's my code so far: https://paste.md-5.net/wilicapowa.java
I'm based on this code: https://gist.github.com/graywolf336/8153678

Gist

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Serialize and deserialize the player's inventory, including armor and content. - BukkitSerialization.java

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:03 AM

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cinder abyss Hello, I'm trying to serialize inventories and their information (holder, size a...

Why are you trying to serialise the whole thing?

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can you not just serialise the contents

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also does it give an error on crash?

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:06 AM

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drowsy helm Why are you trying to serialise the whole thing?

I want to save inventories in a item display pdc so I can restore it across restart

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:07 AM

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drowsy helm can you not just serialise the contents

no because I need to identify the inventory from its holder

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:07 AM

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cinder abyss no because I need to identify the inventory from its holder

Thats the wrong way of implementing inventory discrimination

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:08 AM

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drowsy helm also does it give an error on crash?

I'll reproduce it

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:08 AM

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you definitely don't want to store an inventory full of shulker boxes in a pdc of any kind

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:09 AM

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thorn isle you definitely don't want to store an inventory full of shulker boxes in a pdc o...

how can I do it then please ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:09 AM

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what are you even trying to do

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:09 AM

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also trying to serialise an inventory holder won't really work

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:10 AM

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thorn isle what are you even trying to do

I'm trying to create fake blocks by putting an ItemDisplay on top. and I want to create one which open an inventory associated to the custom block on PlayerInteractEvent

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:10 AM

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drowsy helm also trying to serialise an inventory holder won't really work

actually, it works

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:10 AM

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store the inventory in a file or something

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:11 AM

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thorn isle you definitely don't want to store an inventory full of shulker boxes in a pdc o...

how is it normally stored in the world then

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:11 AM

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not in a pdc

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:11 AM

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then, how can I store not in a pdc please ?

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with NBTAPI ?

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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i dont really see anything wrong with using pdc

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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not in nbt either

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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then how?

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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tile entities are stored in the same fashion

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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only on disk

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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actual chests are stored with nbt in the level dat im pretty sure

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wdym

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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yes, on disk

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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thorn isle only on disk

my pdc are stored on disk too

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:12 AM

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thats what the persistent in pdc is for

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:13 AM

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the difference is that the pdc is stored in nbt which is in memory also

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for tile entities, the nbt stays on disk and it gets parsed into a proper object model to be stored in memory

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i.e. a list of ItemStacks

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:13 AM

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whats the difference here

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:13 AM

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nbt is far less space efficient

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:14 AM

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i meant what is the difference between what you explained and how paulem wants to do it

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:14 AM

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from what i understood, he wants to keep the data in the pdc of the entity

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:14 AM

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I can change if needed

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:14 AM

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this is ass because an inventory full of shulkers is going to be HUGE when represented as nbt

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:15 AM

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but I don't want it to be stored in a file in plugin data folder

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:15 AM

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it being HUGE is not as much of a problem for tile entities like chests because again, the nbt is only for disk storage, it doesn't stay resident in memory

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but for pdc, the raw pdc data is in memory as nbt, so it's HUGE and it's in memory and that's a bad combination

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:15 AM

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but its the same data

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:16 AM

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thorn isle it being HUGE is not as much of a problem for tile entities like chests because ...

how can I store nbt only on disk then ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:16 AM

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attach an id to the entity and use that id to locate a file on disk

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:16 AM

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by caching it in a list the rest of the time

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:16 AM

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the pdc is still going to be in memory unless you delete the entity/pdc entry, but then it's no longer persistent

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:18 AM

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and how does using an entity id fix that

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:18 AM

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because then the data is on disk in a file and not in a pdc in memory

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only the id/pointer used to locate the file is in a pdc in memory

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:19 AM

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but how do you load it into the class then

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:19 AM

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what

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:19 AM

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how do you get the items into your entity when you load it

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without the pdc staying in memory

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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the pdc stays in memory, but it is no longer an issue because it is not HUGE, because an id is not HUGE

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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thorn isle attach an id to the entity and use that id to locate a file on disk

but then the file is in plugin data folder ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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what do you mean

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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you look at the id in the pdc when the entity loads, and you use the id to locate a file on disk, and you load the data from disk

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the HUGE stays on disk

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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yes

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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💀

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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but you loading the data from a file puts that files data into memory?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:20 AM

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yes

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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so

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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but what you have to understand here, like i've said many times, is that not all storage formats for data are equal

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nbt in base64 is HUGE

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ItemStack is less huge

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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sure

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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so you load it in memory as itemstacks

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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how do you do that

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:21 AM

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cinder abyss but then the file is in plugin data folder ?

. (pls)

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:22 AM

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any way you want; the way he's doing is fine, except i would probably use a file input stream rather than a byte array input stream

pine forge Jul 22, 2025, 10:22 AM

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How can i block the main thread in my onDisable to ensure that everything shuts down correctly?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:22 AM

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the problem with his approach is that the huge 2 megabyte string is in a pdc and not in a file

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 10:22 AM

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"uhh whats memory" codingjesus interview question.

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:22 AM

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xD

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cinder abyss but then the file is in plugin data folder ?

yes

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:23 AM

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hum

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:23 AM

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but what if you wanted it to be in the level dat

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:24 AM

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now i vaguely recall that last you brought this up, you had a solid block occupying the same space as the display?

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:24 AM

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I'd better write everything in the file and load it at start if I use plugin datafolder

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:24 AM

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thorn isle now i vaguely recall that last you brought this up, you had a solid block occupy...

yes

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the display is 0.0005f taller 🤓

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:24 AM

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what you could do is place a shulker in that space instead and use that to hold the inventory; when clicking the entity, get the inventory of the shulker and open it for the player

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this does limit you to the 3 row inventory however, and it won't be per-player if you want that

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:25 AM

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thorn isle what you could do is place a shulker in that space instead and use that to hold ...

no, because there is a shulker opening animation

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and I want my inventory to do the size I want

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:25 AM

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i don't think the opening animation will play if you open the inventory manually

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:25 AM

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thorn isle i don't think the opening animation will play if you open the inventory manually

oh yeah, opening it with spigot

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:25 AM

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but yeah, if the size is an issue you'll just have to take the file route

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:25 AM

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hum then the problem is for the inventory size so yeah

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:26 AM

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storing it in a pdc could be fine if you're sure nothing massive gets put into it

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like shulkers or written books

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:26 AM

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thorn isle storing it in a pdc *could* be fine if you're sure nothing massive gets put into...

yeah, it's working witha acacia planks ahaha

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what do you think of this ?
https://gist.github.com/graywolf336/8153678?permalink_comment_id=5011936#gistcomment-5011936

Gist

Serialize and deserialize the player's inventory, including armor a...

Serialize and deserialize the player's inventory, including armor and content. - BukkitSerialization.java

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:26 AM

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or make your own pdcdatatype thats a list of itemstacks

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and the problem is gone

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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pseudo hazel or make your own pdcdatatype thats a list of itemstacks

you think ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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just guessing

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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that won't work

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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but that depends on how the custom pdc types work

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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it's stored as raw nbt under the hood

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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how so

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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and every time you do get() or set(), your custom datatype is used to convert it from the complex type to the primitive type

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:27 AM

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what if I split itemstack datas in chunks of pdc ? x)

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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for example if you put his code in a pdc data type, every time he'd get an item it'd cause a base64 string to be deserialized into a new itemstack; and that base64 string would still remain in memory

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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what is actually crashing, the pdc size being high or the global pdc size supported by the ItemDisplay ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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thats dumb

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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it's convenient but quite expensive and not particularly efficient

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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I guess thats just an issue with how its implemented then ig

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:28 AM

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cinder abyss what is actually crashing, the pdc size being high or the global pdc size suppor...

have you sent the error/crash report yet

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:29 AM

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thorn isle have you sent the error/crash report yet

oh forgot yeah

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:30 AM

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pseudo hazel I guess thats just an issue with how its implemented then ig

it could i think be implemented in a way where the datatype is used to deserialize the data only once and then that result is cached, but it'd be quite a bit of work to make work safely

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:31 AM

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fair enough

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:35 AM

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wtf it don't print errors anymore

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but it still doesn't work

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I'll do something horrible but I don't have choice

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[12:37:07 ERROR]: Failed to write NBT String
java.io.UTFDataFormatException: encoded string (rO0ABXNy...EAfgAq
) too long: 130528 bytes
    at java.base/java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:363) ~[?:?]
    at java.base/java.io.DataOutputStream.writeUTF(DataOutputStream.java:327) ~[?:?]
    at net.minecraft.util.DelegateDataOutput.writeUTF(DelegateDataOutput.java:80) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]
    at net.minecraft.nbt.NbtIo$StringFallbackDataOutput.writeUTF(NbtIo.java:215) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]
    at net.minecraft.nbt.StringTag.write(StringTag.java:66) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]
    at net.minecraft.nbt.CompoundTag.writeNamedTag(CompoundTag.java:436) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]
    at net.minecraft.nbt.CompoundTag.write(CompoundTag.java:181) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]
    at net.minecraft.nbt.CompoundTag.writeNamedTag(CompoundTag.java:436) ~[server-1.21.8.jar:1.21.8-11-a5f2f61]```

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when saving

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:39 AM

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too long: 130528 bytes

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there are limits to what nbt can store

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:40 AM

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and so when loading

📎 java.lang.RuntimeException_java.io..txt

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:40 AM

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thorn isle there are limits to what nbt can store

yeah, I saw it and though at first it was the title the problem because it's saying it's for a string lol

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:41 AM

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your entire data is one huge string

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a base64 string

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:41 AM

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how did you get it to save that though

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:41 AM

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pseudo hazel how did you get it to save that though

it doesn't want to

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:41 AM

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thorn isle your entire data is one huge string

so I split ?

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peak dev

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:41 AM

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oh nvm this is saving where it goes wrong

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well, what is this data

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like what do the contents look like

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:42 AM

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pseudo hazel like what do the contents look like

a big, big, big, base64 string

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:42 AM

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or well more accurately i guess this is a limitation in the java dataoutputstream

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:42 AM

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no i mean the contents of the container in game

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:42 AM

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it limits utf8 strings to 65535 bytes

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:42 AM

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thorn isle it limits utf8 strings to 65535 bytes

yes

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(64*1024) -1

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exactly

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:43 AM

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I wouldnt store it as a single string probably then

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:44 AM

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cinder abyss (64*1024) -1

2^16-1, since the length of the string is encoded as an unsigned short

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:44 AM

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I think what I can do is writing the amount of chunks in a integer pdc, and then loading each chunks from their base key_chunkIndex

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:44 AM

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thorn isle 2^16-1, since the length of the string is encoded as an unsigned short

oh okay

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:45 AM

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why not chunk it per item

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instead of arbitrary string cuts

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:45 AM

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pseudo hazel why not chunk it per item

that can do a lot of pdc ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:45 AM

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idk

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it doesnt really change the amount of data, just the way its stored

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:45 AM

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and there's still space in each pdc

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:46 AM

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I would try using a list of serialized bytes (itemstacks) and see if that works

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pdc is limited by your server memory I guess

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:46 AM

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i guess if i really had to store a huge list of items in a pdc without nms, i probably would use the paper serializeAsJson methods and then map the json object to a pdc; in that way there's no intermediate string or base64 encoding and the data gets saved as optimally as is possible to encode it in a pdc

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with access to nms, i'd serialize to nbt via nms and store it directly in the custom_data component next to the pdc

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:47 AM

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id say serializeAsBytes is pretty optimal for most stacks

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM

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that serializes it to nbt and then writes the nbt as a binary stream into bytes

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM

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if you have nms I would just put it in the level dat just like actual chests, if thats possible

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but its more complicated

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:48 AM

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a custom tile entity would be ideal yes

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i don't have much experience with those but they're sort of doable afaik

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Humm interesting

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:50 AM

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thorn isle with access to nms, i'd serialize to nbt via nms and store it directly in the cu...

There's no limit to this NBT ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:53 AM

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the limit is your memory

woeful hollow Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 AM

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From which version is this supported in plugin.yml ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 AM

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there are some limits to it still, like if you go over the maximum size of data in a chunk you'll get problems, but at that point it's not much different from regular chests and containers

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 AM

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thorn isle there are some limits to it still, like if you go over the maximum size of data ...

yeah seem logical

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:55 AM

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and the raw data is still always in memory as long as the chunk is loaded, so memory-wise it's far less efficient than a regular container

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so keep an eye on resource usage as you place them; i definitely wouldn't let players create these things without restrictions, for example

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 10:57 AM

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I think I've found

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the way to do it, in one string

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it works

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god damn

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private static byte[] compress(byte[] data) throws IOException {
    ByteArrayOutputStream bos = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
    try (java.util.zip.DeflaterOutputStream dos = new java.util.zip.DeflaterOutputStream(bos)) {
        dos.write(data);
    }
    return bos.toByteArray();
}

private static byte[] decompress(byte[] data) throws IOException {
    ByteArrayOutputStream bos = new ByteArrayOutputStream();
    try (java.util.zip.InflaterInputStream iis = new java.util.zip.InflaterInputStream(new ByteArrayInputStream(data))) {
        byte[] buffer = new byte[1024];
        int len;
        while ((len = iis.read(buffer)) > 0) {
            bos.write(buffer, 0, len);
        }
    }
    return bos.toByteArray();
}```
What do you think of compressing with something like ZLib ?

pseudo hazel Jul 22, 2025, 10:57 AM

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but if you have nms isnt it possible to make it work like the vanilla chests and have no memory lingering that you dont need?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 10:58 AM

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with a custom tile entity, yeah

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but it isn't really worth the effort

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having a pointer to a file in the pdc is much easier and about as reliable

young knoll Jul 22, 2025, 11:02 AM

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woeful hollow From which version is this supported in plugin.yml ?

1.18.2 iirc

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:06 AM

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thorn isle having a pointer to a file in the pdc is much easier and about as reliable

should I then load it in memory when the server starts or... ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:07 AM

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depends

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you could load it when the chunk or entity loads

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you could load it when it's first interacted with and needed

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:08 AM

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then do I unload it ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:08 AM

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depends

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i'd probably unload it on chunk unload, but save it whenever the inventory is closed, to make sure i don't miss any changes

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:09 AM

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and if it's a pdc, does it unload with chunks ?

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like, when using ZLib for compresson, I'm now at 1977 bytes

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:11 AM

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yes, the pdc is attached to an entity/chunk/world and whenever what it's attached is unloaded the pdc itself is also unloaded

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:11 AM

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so maybe that's the best way ?

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What do you think ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:12 AM

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personally i would still use a pointer to a file but this should probably be fine

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:12 AM

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It's actually very small when stored, and it unloads automatically, and I prefer it that storing in datafolder

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:12 AM

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thorn isle personally i would still use a pointer to a file but this should probably be fin...

but it's just preferences at this state ?

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:16 AM

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there are still some difficulties with this approach, especially around parsing/saving it asynchronously which can become an issue if there are a lot of these and they have large contents, but for a basic approach this will be fine

cinder abyss Jul 22, 2025, 11:16 AM

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I take notes about that, thanks !

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thanks a lot for your help 😄

thorn isle Jul 22, 2025, 11:23 AM

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👍

mortal vortex Jul 22, 2025, 11:29 AM

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Does the client send the server information on their FOV? Im just thinking because there is a noticeable difference in how the creaking mob attacks you at 30FOV and 100FOV.

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 11:33 AM

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pine forge Ah that makes sense how do i do that?

what do you have on your onDisable right now

drowsy helm Jul 22, 2025, 11:41 AM

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mortal vortex Does the client send the server information on their FOV? Im just thinking becau...

I believe it does

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 11:45 AM

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the player abilities packet seems to send something related to that

smoky anchor Jul 22, 2025, 11:45 AM

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creaking does not respect the players FOV
iirc this was reported as a bug and resolved as WAI

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Clientbound
I don't think the server has any way of knowing that setting

pine forge Jul 22, 2025, 11:53 AM

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sly topaz what do you have on your onDisable right now

 public Future<Boolean> disconnect() {
        return EXECUTOR.submit(() -> {
            SOCKET.disconnect();
            while(SOCKET.connected()) {}
            return true;
        });
    }```

```java
// onDisable:
        try {
            Future<Boolean> future = adapterManager.stop(); // -> calls disconnect()
            if(future != null) future.get(5, TimeUnit.SECONDS);
        }
        catch(InterruptedException | ExecutionException | TimeoutException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }```

Im doing this now which seems to work

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it just waits until the socket.connected() variable is set to false

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not sure if thats best practice to do it like that but the library doesnt seem to offer a bettter solution

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 11:55 AM

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which library is it?

pine forge Jul 22, 2025, 11:55 AM

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socket.io-client java

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https://github.com/socketio/socket.io-client-java

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as im comunicating with a js service which also uses socket.io

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 11:56 AM

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https://socketio.github.io/socket.io-client-java/faq.html#How_to_properly_close_a_client

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seems like you just have to close the thread pool executor as well

slender elbow Jul 22, 2025, 11:58 AM

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his ass is NOT Thread.onSpinWait()ing and Thread.yield()ing :Sadge:

sly topaz Jul 22, 2025, 12:00 PM

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In the JDK's ExecutorService javadocs, it explains how to drain the executor service in order to await termination

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so, if you follow that, it should all work out