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[fading dew]

Posted this on the Paper discord already. Just wondering if you share their opinion.
I was working on a events util that imo simplifies registering event handlers and reduces boilerplate.

https://github.com/OpenBukkitUtils/Eventive

So for example you can do this:

package openbukkitutils.eventive.example.easyway;

import openbukkitutils.eventive.EventsUtil;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerJoinEvent;
import org.bukkit.event.player.PlayerQuitEvent;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public class ExamplePlugin1 extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        var util = new EventsUtil(this);
        util.registerEventExecutor(PlayerJoinEvent.class, event -> event.setJoinMessage(event.getPlayer().getName() + " just joined the server!"));
        util.registerEventExecutor(PlayerQuitEvent.class, event -> event.setQuitMessage(event.getPlayer().getName() + " left the server."));
    }
}

Or this:

public class ExamplePlugin2 extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        var util = new EventsUtil(this);

        util.registerEventExecutor(PlayerJoinEvent.class, this::handleJoin);
        util.registerEventExecutor(PlayerQuitEvent.class, this::handleQuit);

        // only call the event if player isn't sneaking
        util.registerEventExecutor(PlayerQuitEvent.class, this::handleQuit, event -> !event.getPlayer().isSneaking());
    }

    private void handleJoin(PlayerJoinEvent event) {
        event.setJoinMessage(event.getPlayer().getName() + " just joined the server!");
    }

    private void handleQuit(PlayerQuitEvent event) {
        event.setQuitMessage(event.getPlayer().getName() + " left the server.");
    }
}

What do you think?

[buoyant viper]

its neat

dunno if i personally would use it

[sullen marlin]

How is this simpler

You've just moved an if statement from one spot to another

[spiral cape]

@drowsy helm Thank you for hinting the pdc idea (have forgotten a lot about mc/spigot/bukkit API's). This had worked great 🙂

It was about this 🙂

[drowsy helm]

No problem

[spiral cape]

btw @drowsy helm , if you're interested, this is the plugin I've made and updated with your hint 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-VvEBilwOU

[fading dew]

you just need one line of code to create and register a simple EventExecutor.

[stiff harbor]

Ive cooked my plugin. After working on a few files today everything ive been doing for the past 3 weeks isnt working anymore... time to create a new project and slowly reimplement everything 🙂

[mortal vortex]

Does anyone know of plugins that provide their own APIs with custom events? I’m trying to understand how they implement them. I want to design my API to fire events so that addons can perform additional actions after my main plugin handles them.

For instance, master plugin handles the Event from the server directly through Bukkit’s Events, then performs any additional logic or checks, then at someplace within the code, perhaps nested under conditions, fire an event of its own. Such that further addons would not need to perform the same if statements to validate if code should run.

[fading dew]

I agree the second example isn't as illustrative on why this is simpler. It was just to show additional capabilities of the API.

[fading dew]

Basically, you instantiate and call an event. Assume the event to be potentially modified by the event handler. then after it's called, you take the attributes of the event instance and do the actual action that the event occurs for. i hope that's somewhat understandable ^^

[mortal vortex]

No. It isn’t.

[fading dew]

dang 🥲

[echo basalt]

Geyser but it's kind of ass

HuskSync does it in a weird way where each event is basically an interface and each platform has an impl that is called in its native system

[mortal vortex]

I don’t mind creating a custom event object, and then passing the actual event context through as additional shit.

[fading dew]

I was assuming we were talking about Bukkit events

[mortal vortex]

No. Making like custom events that our plugin fires in response to that plus additional checks

Fuck, maybe I shouldn’t text while in the shower, and actually properly explain this when I’m out.

[echo basalt]

at work we have a skills system that works under a similar context

[mortal vortex]

please censor the w word.

[echo basalt]

where it "triggers" actions with a context

[mortal vortex]

(W*rk)

[echo basalt]

and those actions can have restrictions and stuff

[fading dew]

because you can create custom events with Bukkit too. That's what I was talking about

w**k 🤬🤬🤬

[echo basalt]

Here's an example

we use it for more than just abilities because it's so flexible

[fading dew]

what kind of API is this?

[echo basalt]

uh

spigot / paper :)

with a lot of abstraction on top

[fading dew]

no I mean the code that I'm reading here uses specific methods n classes from a specific API. Did you write that API or is it from Paper/Spigot?

[echo basalt]

I wrote it all

[fading dew]

okay

[echo basalt]

it takes some effort

[fading dew]

honestly i have no idea what that code does from reading it

[echo basalt]

this?

[fading dew]

yea. it feels too "declarative" i feel like procedural with a couple if statements and functions wouldve worked too

[echo basalt]

It's basically an action that runs every time a player takes damage, as long as they have a trinket equipped and the damage falls under one of those given types

[echo basalt]

it's overengineered for a single action but we have like 90+

it's also incredibly easy to change the firing order of things and these "contexts" often offer some clever systems that basic events do not

For example, a custom damage modifier system that can properly stack values

It makes adding items that, for example, give you +20% damage really really easy

[fading dew]

yea i dunno your usecase. you probably know what you're doing. these days i'm just scared of too much "boilerplate and api masturbation" that I fell into myself back in the day 😂😂😂

cause a wise programmer once said: complexity very very bad

[echo basalt]

Keep abstractions sensible

[fading dew]

definitely

[buoyant viper]

yeah this guy gets paid to over engineer basically

and then recommends other to 😞

[echo basalt]

Benefits of being paid hourly

[buoyant viper]

i cant over engineer 😞

i CAN over think, however

(this has had severe negative consequences on my mental health)

[young knoll]

Yay overthinking

[echo basalt]

I legit did other random stuff at work for a solid 2 weeks while I came up with this

[orchid brook]

Hi guys is there a way to prevent Player::hideEntity method to hide player from tablist ?

[echo basalt]

Only alternative is to use packets

[sly topaz]

you can't make hideEntity not hide the player from tablist but you can send an additional packet to list them on the tab again after they are hidden

[buoyant viper]

wouldnt be very hidden now would it 😔

[sly topaz]

one may question why even bother using the visibility API if you're going to be sending packets anyway and that is simply because the visibility API also removes them from the entity tracker as well as tracking which entities have been hidden in case you want to make them visible again, so that is one less thing to handle by yourself

ideally the hidePlayer method should just have a listed boolean but welp, a good first PR if anything

[left jay]

so i cant figure out why my CustomDamager.doDamage() method is only doing 98.2% of the damage that is being passed on through the damage variable

ex:

ok apparently it works on golems, what the hell?

[mortal vortex]

Legal Abuse Victim kek

[smoky anchor]

don't zombies have inherent armor value ? :D

yep

[eternal oxide]

hmm, not seen you pink before steve

[smoky anchor]

I did the thing just so I could send a sticker once

[eternal oxide]

lol

[wet breach]

You just wanted to join everyone else

[wary harness]

So I got strange problem

I am creating xp bottle with custom amount of xp

but when is picked up if player has Mending enchant it will fix there stuff and they will receive full amount of xp of that orb

so amount which was used on mending is not substracted away from orb amount

why does that happens

[left jay]

Oh

Well thanks then

[mellow bough]

hey ! Do you guys have an idea how to not have this error (I'm new to intellij)

[chrome beacon]

Reload the pom

with the reload icon in the top right or in the maven tab that's also on the right

[mellow bough]

oh ty

[misty ingot]

is there a way to get a listener for when a player obtains a certain item by any source

pickup, /give, whatever the hell

[chrome beacon]

Not easily, what are you trying to do

[misty ingot]

give every item the player gets a unique UUID and then check for duplicates and remove them

[grand flint]

well if its for keys

just check the key being used on the crate

save all used keys

its barely any data

[misty ingot]

its for every item the player obtains

[grand flint]

another example of over security

[grand flint]

yk items with uuids dont stack right?

also why add this? simply eliminate the dupes

paper works hard so does minecraft on eliminating all dupes

if u find a dupe just report it

[misty ingot]

oh right
is there no way to give an item a hidden attribute but let it stack to others?

[misty ingot]

we also wanna make sure our players dont take advantage of it while its there

lets assume for now that we are fine with non stacking

i talked to the team and thankfully its only for very rare items actually

[grand flint]

no i tried already

[grand flint]

its always gonna happen its genuinely not this dee0

its a part of owning a server u cant have everything perfect

the important thing is that things u monetize doesnt get duped or stuff like that

which are easy, for cosmetics i simply store it in a database and they can see what they can wear on their inventory

its not a physical item

[misty ingot]

yes i get that but we have a TON of custom physical items that the player can obtain

[grand flint]

yeah so make them non stackable

for example i have some op weapons

those are non stackable and use a uuid system

but again, there are no current dupes

the thing that matters is ur own plugins, make sure they dont have dupes

[misty ingot]

we want pretty much the same setup that you have
but we have deviated from my actual question

[grand flint]

for an open world, u have season resets anyways

[grand flint]

nah u just gotta listen to everything

i have a pretty large plugin just for fixes like that its private but its not that hard

[misty ingot]

i have not been able to find a listener that detects /give

[grand flint]

especially with a uuid system

well why would /give dupe?

these r the type of stuff u need to not worry about

[misty ingot]

we dont want players to dupe the item we /give-ed to them

[grand flint]

u need to worry about them duping normal ways

[grand flint]

what ?

if u have a uuid system

give it with mythic give command

that has a uuid system

u shouldnt be worrying about that though

[misty ingot]

so basically we dont need this system

[grand flint]

basically dont worry about /give

u can worry about the rest but not extremely

i have the budget and these items make high game changing progress

so these r important to me

know what u need

100% security is not a thing

have an anticheat, have updated plugins and server, have active staff

have a good host and a ddos protection

[misty ingot]

we are in the same boat as you
i just wasnt as aware about this

[grand flint]

just basic stuff

[tiny badger]

sorry i'm about to post a kinda big text wall

i'm trying to write a 1.21.7 plugin with a feature that creates auto-aggro zombie piglins
it almost works, but it's got a problem
basically, 20% of pigzombies that spawn in are set metadata, given a cosmetic change (stone sword, boots), and are set to automatically target the nearest player

this works, but the problem is that the remaining 80% of pigzombies will see the auto aggro pigzombies, and get angry as a result
of course, this is how pigzombies work normally
is there a way i could circumvent anger spread among the auto-aggro pigzombies?
the goal is that when a player is near a group of pigzombies, and one of them is auto-aggro, the auto-aggro will attack the player but the other pigzombies will ignore the player unless the player hits back

[grand flint]

for example idk why crate plugins dont have a builtin uuid system for keys

its super easy to implement

but i dont have keys i sell crates as a value on my database

[misty ingot]

we dont have that option

[grand flint]

then simply add a uuid system to keys as i said its super simple

if crate open check key uuid, if not used save uuid to used and open crate if used warn players with litebans that they used a duped key

[misty ingot]

and what shall we do about the other rare items

[grand flint]

then use liteban templates so if they get another warning on that category they get baned

[grand flint]

what plugin do u use for them

i recommend working with the mythic ecosytem

crucible is my recommendation if u have the time and want proper customization

all sorts of animations, mechanics and such plus it had uuid system as well

so it will check built in for dupes im pretty sure

[thorn isle]

mythic is 🚮

[ivory sleet]

lol why

[tiny badger]

idk if i can bump stuff but this probably gets lost otherwise

[grand flint]

W ragebait

[young knoll]

Last time I tried to use a mythic plugin it claimed to support spigot but it in fact did not

No idea if it has been fixed since then, but still

Smh my head

[grand flint]

hm probs not

but why would u use a plugin like mythic on spigot 😭

[young knoll]

Because I was developing another plugin for spigot and wanted to support mythicmobs

Also if it still doesn’t support spigot then it shouldn’t be on spigotmc

[remote swallow]

@md

[slender elbow]

hi is there a vault replacement that works on 1.21.8 since it isnt marked as supported thx

[remote swallow]

use hypixelvault2.159811169

[karmic plume]

🙏 Seeking Help to Finalize a 1.8.9 Plugin 🙏

Hey everyone! I'm working on a passion project and have gotten stuck on the final technical steps. I was hoping a more experienced developer from the community might be able to lend a hand.

Project Details

• 👾 Plugin: A custom RPG/Survival plugin with features like bosses, pets, and an XP system.
• ✅ Status: All the Java code is 100% written and ready to be structured.
• Minecraft Version: Spigot 1.8.9

Technical Help Needed
I need assistance with the final packaging and compilation. The tasks are:

1️⃣ Project Structuring: Organize my existing .java files into a proper Maven project.
2️⃣ Configuration: Correctly set up the pom.xml (for Java 8) and plugin.yml files for Spigot 1.8.9.
3️⃣ Compilation: Compile the final, working .jar file.

My Offer
I'm not in a position to offer payment for this, as it's a personal project made with a lot of care.

In return for your help, I would be extremely grateful and will give full, prominent credit for your contribution within the plugin itself and anywhere it's shared!

How You Can Help
➡️ If you have experience with this and a little bit of free time to help out, please send me a Direct Message (DM)!

Thank you for reading!

[thorn isle]

i usually clown emote these but i'll bite for once; the maven build and plugin.yml sound like fairly trivial things you could probably get set up after reading a few minutes online

as for

compile the final, working .jar file
that's what maven is for

[pseudo hazel]

this reeks of AI

if you can create a plugin full of bosses and pets but cant set up a plugin.yml? Please man

you didnt even try

[karmic plume]

You're right, for an experienced developer I'm sure this is a trivial task. I've spent most of my time focused on writing the actual Java logic for the features, but I'm still new to the Maven build process and how it all connects. I've looked at some guides, but was having trouble applying them to my specific project.

That's exactly why I was hoping someone who finds this part easy could lend a quick hand to get me over this final hurdle. Thanks for the input, though!

[thorn isle]

now be honest here, did you write the java logic with chatgpt

[left jay]

is there a way to get around minecraft's 1s cooldown of taking damage?

[thorn isle]

because if you have like 85 .java files written by chatgpt that you want to turn into an actual plugin, a pom.xml and a plugin.yml aren't going to help you do that

[chrome beacon]

Yeah you can just remove it by setting it to 0

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/LivingEntity.html#setNoDamageTicks(int)

[left jay]

sweet, thanks

[thorn isle]

i don't remember if you have to do it every time the entity gets hit or if it persists

[chrome beacon]

Need to do it every time

[thorn isle]

i vaguely remember having trouble with this because setting it in the damage event would get overwritten by the damage since the event fires before the damage is applied

[chrome beacon]

yeah might need to delay it until next tick

[thorn isle]

so i had to delay setting it by one tick and that meant you couldn't deal multiple hits per tick on an entity

which was okay but not ideal

use case was an arena boss that was getting pummeled by a bunch of players at the same time so hits landed on the same tick more often than you might expect

[karmic plume]

Hey folks, just wanted to clear the air real quick ‘cause I think my message came off the wrong way.

I totally get the whole “if you can do the hard part, you can do the easy part” logic — and I actually agree with it. But the thing is, this was never about ability, it’s about time.

I’ve got a full-time job, and in the little free time I do have, I like to focus on the part of this project that I actually enjoy — building out features and writing code. That part I’m good with. But when it came to the Maven setup — which isn’t something I deal with regularly — I hit a wall.

It’s not that I can’t learn it. Of course I could. But learning it from scratch, plus all the trial and error that comes with it, would eat up a bunch of time that I just don’t have right now.

So when I asked for help, it wasn’t because I didn’t want to learn — I was just hoping someone with more experience (someone who could knock this out in 5 minutes) could give me a hand and save me a few hours.

If I had more free time, trust me, I’d dig into it myself. But right now, I’ve got to pick my battles. Big thanks to everyone who gets that 🙏

[sly topaz]

that is a lot of words

[chrome beacon]

Are those em dashes

[buoyant viper]

thats a lot of AI

[sly topaz]

jokes aside, if you want help, then just post whatever issue you might be having here and someone might be able to help

nobody is going to be personally assisting you in DMs because that is often too much of a burden on the helper when there's multiple people capable of providing that in the help channels

you might get some comments about using AI but it is whatever really, you can just ignore it if it isn't helpful to your situation

[young knoll]

Does ai not know how to make maven projects yet

[sly topaz]

it is the unknown unknowns issue

the AI isn't smart enough to tell you how to proceed if you don't know what questions to ask in order for it to go down that path

[karmic plume]

Hey, just to clarify, I'm Brazilian and not a native English speaker, so I used AI to help me express myself better. I wasn’t trying to overcomplicate anything or dump work on anyone. I just hit a part I’m not used to and asked for help to save time. That’s it. I’m a good person and didn’t expect to be mocked for that. Thanks to those who understood.

[thorn isle]

we can start with the plugin.yml

what is the full path and name of your main class

[chrome beacon]

Could also just let the mc dev plugin for Intellij handle it

still knowing how to setup maven is useful

[thorn isle]

the issue is he's building for 1.8 and god only knows the repository and artifact name for the spigot 1.8 api

i for sure don't remember

and even if i did, what i remember is probably not even up anymore

[chrome beacon]

It's the same as modern versions

[young knoll]

Always has been

[karmic plume]

Hey, the full path is:
com.daniel.mutantcore.MutantCore

[karmic plume]

I'll try to learn. I couldn't learn how to use IntelliJ, so I wrote the codes in VS CODE.

[thorn isle]

terrible mistake, vscode is garbage

regardless

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/plugin-yml/

this is the documentation for plugin.yml

[thorn isle]

for the main field you put in this

name, version and the other required fields should be self-explanatory

[sly topaz]

I think name, version and main are the only required fields

[thorn isle]

mmmaybe

[sly topaz]

what does your directory structure look like right now Daniel?

[karmic plume]

Yes, I understand perfectly. Version 1.8 is super outdated, and I know it's not easy to remember that off the top of my head. I just thought maybe someone here had noted it or still had a working configuration. Anyway, no problem, thank you for your honesty. As I said before, in Brazil it's super common to program in version 1.8.9, since computers here are weak and can't run the latest version of Minecraft.

[sly topaz]

it should be something like this:

[thorn isle]

the locals tell me that the repository and artifact are the same for 1.8 as they are for modern versions, so you should be able to follow a modern tutorial and just substitute 1.8.9 in place of 1.21.4 or whatever

[indigo thunder]

chat

how can i create a custom block?

[slender elbow]

i love the kotlin icon on the pom.xml

[indigo thunder]

i dont know how

and i dont have any tutorials

[sly topaz]

and here I thought nobody would notice my shoddy edit of the paper documentation

[sly topaz]

if you want to do that with a plugin, you'll have to do some resource pack magic

[indigo thunder]

so???

[buoyant viper]

same as its always been sadly

[indigo thunder]

i tried AI it but its confusing

[buoyant viper]

org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.8.8-R0.1-SNAPSHOT

[sly topaz]

people usually use some block with a bunch of block states and replace their textures to simulate a new block, I think people use noteblocks nowadays

[indigo thunder]

. . .

so i create a new block that is a noteblock

and then change the attributes

and then create the resource pack?

[karmic plume]

Thanks guys, this will help me a lot. When I get home, I'll figure out how to do this! Thanks a lot anyway, you'll still see my server above Hypixel.

😀😀

[sly topaz]

essentially, yes

[indigo thunder]

why is this so complex

couldnt it be like with a command you could put the texture path and include it and ecc

[sly topaz]

https://github.com/PalmarHealer/CustomBlocks

this plugin is a teeny bit old but the concept is the same, you can take it as reference

[indigo thunder]

wut

[sly topaz]

though this seems to use block displays

[sly topaz]

mainly because we aren't really adding new blocks but just using existing ones, so you have to work around the limitations

[crimson agate]

How do I get custom playerhead? I mean apply custom texture not from playername

[thorn isle]

do you figure preventing pick-block with nbt data, and the set creative slot packet (which the client uses to spawn in items), would be enough to prevent creative exploits?

i think most of the "crash chest" style exploits rely on those two things but i'm not sure

[sly topaz]

use mineskin API to upload custom textures

[chrome beacon]

^ all skins must be bound to a player account, mineskin helps do that for you

[sly topaz]

well, achktually 🤓 🖕, it just has to come from mojang servers and they don't really expire unused skins so it just has to be in an account once for it to work

[thorn isle]

hence being able to load those 256x256 transparency-supporting education edition skins on java skulls

[sly topaz]

you're asking an impossible question honestly, only god knows what exploits the newer hacked clients are abusing for that. In my mind it should be enough but if you want to be thorough, better to download some of the free ones and test it out

[thorn isle]

did they ever patch that?

[sly topaz]

I don't think they did

[thorn isle]

i should abuse it one of these days

what's a hacked client that won't rootkit my machine the moment i install it

[sly topaz]

wurst is a common one

[chrome beacon]

yeah

[crimson agate]

Can you help? I have never been in this situation where I need it, and ChatGPT doesn't really help with answering how to do it (I just seek information no code btw)

I'm not a vibecoder xD

[sly topaz]

what part is it that you need help with

using the API or just applying the skins

for applying the skins, there's this

[crimson agate]

Doing the normal stuff when I have the playername?

[sly topaz]

?customheads

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/creating-custom-heads-in-spigot-1-18-1/

[sly topaz]

-# nobody saw me fail at that command 4 times

[crimson agate]

Thanks! That really help!

[thorn isle]

it's a fabric mod, neat

[torn shuttle]

wait when did .8 come out

tf

buddy come on

[remote swallow]

i think its technically a client only version

but paper decided to just yolo and version bump it anyway to make it less confusing

[maiden kiln]

Yeah so did Spigot now

[eternal night]

it isn't technically there is a new data version but yea, protocol version remained the same

[remote swallow]

smh nerd

[eternal night]

[ripe depot]

how do i serialize an entity?

[sullen marlin]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/EntitySnapshot.html

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/EntityFactory.html

[ripe depot]

this is what i was looking for thanks

[ripe depot]

do you know why recreating a painting with this causes it to move by 1 block?

also, the painting is wrong

[chrome beacon]

Make sure you're using Spigot and that it's up to date

[ripe depot]

i'm using paper

[chrome beacon]

Time to head over to the Paper discord

[ripe depot]

oh

what i meant is i'm making a spigot mod but i'm running it on a paper server

[chrome beacon]

Still, Paper discord if you're running Paper and somethings not working

[ripe depot]

how do i serialize tile entity data? it (PersistentDataContainer) doesn't seem to have a toString method anywhere

[acoustic galleon]

minecraft entities names allows +16 caracters?
I know players can't do it. But entities?

[grand flint]

What?

[mortal vortex]

The player name length is an Auth thing, nothing to do with the server itself.

[acoustic galleon]

So there is no character limit?

[mortal vortex]

No?

[acoustic galleon]

nice

[sullen marlin]

Nah there is or was a network protocol limit

[mortal vortex]

oh yeah but thats not 16 is it

[sullen marlin]

It was pretty small at some point

[acoustic galleon]

md5 omg

[mortal vortex]

yup he's revealed his true form

[potent crescent]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[mortal vortex]

thanks mate, very relevent

[sly topaz]

you can get an entity snapshot out of an entity

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Entity.html#createSnapshot()

[sour spade]

Hi, im new to plugin development. I need to solve a very special task. I want to generate/access a chunk’s heightmap / terrain BEFORE it’s loaded. So load biome map and generate heightmap and then return it from a function. This is to create a top down map off the seed like chunkbase.com with terrain accuracy. The easy approach is to just generate the chunk then get the heigh but would it not be very slow?

Im using paper 1.21. Is a plugin even capable of doing such things? Or is there better solutions?

This is my code so far 🤣 :

package org.potbob.ecomc;

import org.bukkit.Bukkit;
import org.bukkit.World;
import org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin;

public final class Ecomc extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {
        // Plugin startup logic
        getLogger().info("Hello Minecraft!");
        
        generateAndReadHeightmapWithoutLoadingChunk("world", 0, 0);
    }

    @Override
    public void onDisable() {
        // Plugin shutdown logic
        getLogger().info("Goodbye Minecraft!");
    }

    public void generateAndReadHeightmapWithoutLoadingChunk(String worldName, int chunkX, int chunkZ) {
        World bukkitWorld = Bukkit.getWorld(worldName);

        if (bukkitWorld == null) {
            getLogger().warning("World not found: " + worldName);
            return;
        }

        bukkitWorld.getChunkAtAsync(chunkX, chunkZ, true).thenAccept(chunk -> {
            getLogger().info("Chunk");
        });
    }
}

[chrome beacon]

I suggest heading over to the Paper discord since you're not using the Spigot API

[sour spade]

Is it not the same? Woud this code not work on Spigot API?

[sly topaz]

it would not, given there's one method that doesn't exist in Spigot there (namely, getChunkAtAsync)

[chrome beacon]

^^ It wouldn't

[sour spade]

Oh ok good to know il ask paper

But if anyone has done this before hmu

[sly topaz]

I would honestly just do a chunk generator that delegates to vanillla but logs the information that you want to get

[potent crescent]

YW

[sour spade]

I was thinking of just generating the chunk normally and then grabbing the top block. But if I want to create a larger map—say, 100,000 by 100,000 blocks—it would take days and consume nearly a terabyte of storage for all the chunk data.

My goal is to leverage Minecraft’s built-in terrain generation without actually loading the full chunk on the server. Instead, I want to extract just the top block of the terrain and store that in my own database. That way, I can significantly reduce both processing time and storage requirements.

Skip last four steps here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyVAaJqYAfE&t=945s

[azure zealot]

It is 16 chars

And 48bytes

[sly topaz]

I think you're overstimating how much a world that big would be

a 100kx100k world would be probably around the 60-70gb range

and it shouldn't take more than a few hours in a modern processors to pre-generate with Chunky

[sour spade]

Im not because its not a linear scale

Chunky docs: https://github.com/pop4959/Chunky/wiki/FAQ#how-much-disk-space-will-my-world-use
Chunky docs calc: https://onlinemo.de/world
Forum posts: https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-pre-load-a-100k-by-100k-world-and-not-take-weeks.427883/

[sly topaz]

Welp, color me surprised

I don't remember worlds ever being that heavy but I guess I haven't gotten around having a server in a long time to know for sure

i would still do the same, though

given you'd still need to generate those chunks

or if you just want the surface area for some reason, then you can probably have a chunk generator that generates only the surface. Don't know what side effects that might have but it's worth a try

[sour spade]

Yes i only need the surface blocks so i need to somehow extract only heightmap generation from minecraft vanilla world gen. If im lucky there is a function like getHeight(x,y). But since this is so niche i have no idea where to even begin to look 😭

[sour spade]

Yea its crazy 🤣

[crimson agate]

Will you implement a method in a future Spigot version to remove the new waypoint transmission range Display on Playerheads?

[sly topaz]

can you show a screenshot of what that is

there is a way to set the waypoint color and style right now but I am unsure whether that affects what you're talking about

[crimson agate]

I just mean the Text. Ignore the other stuff, that is just a custom lore

[chrome beacon]

That just looks like an attribute

you can remove that

[sly topaz]

ah, that is just an attribute, I believe there should be an item flag for removing that

[twin venture]

Hi , if someone make a Automatic servers creation on demand using lettuce is that goodd?

[sly topaz]

either the adding the HIDE_ATTRIBUTES or HIDE_ATTRIBUTE_MODIFIERS item flags should owrk

[twin venture]

i have been working on soomething and the results i really like it ..

[sly topaz]

I have no idea what you're talking about

what is lettuce and what does "automatic server creation" entail

[twin venture]

check live stream

[sly topaz]

there's nothing there

I still have no idea what I am looking at lol

[twin venture]

skywars replica like big servers xD

AND A AUTOMATIC SERVERS CREATIONS on demand

[sly topaz]

so like, it creates maps as necessary?

[twin venture]

yes

the files you will need as a arena that yoou finished setu

like setspawn , set lobby , etc

and it will copy the files froom that foolder :
preset-game-servers

to game-servers

[sly topaz]

I mean, it is a thing. I am unsure of in which scenario one would use it on your server but sounds cool nonetheless

what is lettuce though

[twin venture]

for big servers i think , that need many servers

1000k players and more

Lettuce - Advanced Java Redis client

[sly topaz]

I see, so it is just a redis client

[twin venture]

anyway , i need to go now , i was just asking if anyone know if this system is good or nah using lettuce and redis

[sly topaz]

I mean, redis is pretty common in networks for cross-server communication

[twin venture]

and if big servers like hypixel when a skywars-3451- server created , dooes it get removed the files? or keep it for next round? only restart it ?

[sly topaz]

the only issue I see with this is that you're trying to make something for big servers, whereas big servers are prone to just build their own solutions for these things

[twin venture]

that's a good point right there ..

[sly topaz]

if you're planning to sell this, it'd have to be really solid in order to become a viable alternative to whatever solution people already use

[twin venture]

its a next gen skywars plugin

4 jars ,lobby , game , proxy (bungeecord) , and the app that i made to cominucate and create servers , close servers ..

[sly topaz]

gamemodes like skywars are always popular, and the on-demand map provisioning sounds good so you'll just have to give it a go

people on marketplaces like polymart eat that kind of thing

[twin venture]

tbh this project started as a joke that i can't make this , and now i finished 80% or so ..

it turned out to be the best project i worked on , i learned so much stuff 🙂

[slender elbow]

1000k players ????

[thorn isle]

i don't think using redis to transfer world files from one server to another makes any sense

almost anything else would be better i think

it kind of sounds like you're reinventing docker

[viscid walrus]

public static final CreatureSpawnEvent.SpawnReason SPELL
When an entity is created by a cast spell.

Anyone know if the spell refers to the spell evokers cast to spawn vexes? Or does this refer to the 1.21 potion effects?

[sly topaz]

most likely evokers

[viscid walrus]

alrightt

[sly topaz]

but https://tryitands.ee

[thorn isle]

potion effect clouds aren't creatures

so almost certainly yes

[viscid walrus]

exactly lol

[thorn isle]

i don't see what else they'd spawn either

or can we make thrown potions spawn any arbitrary entity now?

[viscid walrus]

yup it is an evoker

is there a a way to get the inventory and ender chest of a player who has joined before but currently isn't online? Because right now, I'm using:
offlinePlayer.getPlayer().getInventory() (essentially) and offlinePlayer.getPlayer() always returns null.

[sly topaz]

it is possible but not with the API

wait, I am really confused

there's loadData and saveData on Player but not on OfflinePlayer, why lol

[lilac dagger]

wait, there's load data and save data?

[sly topaz]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#loadData()
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#saveData()

[lilac dagger]

that's nice

altho i don't see a use for myself

offline player can't load nor save data if you think about it

unless it's a player that went offline and have the instance i guess

but it'd be working only then

[pseudo hazel]

yes because then that instance is still a Player instance afaik

[twin venture]

not using redis itself lol , you missunderstand me

[glacial narwhal]

How can i freeze a player? Not allowing mouse input

[thorn isle]

i think the only way is to force them to spectate an entity, but that'll hide the hud

you can limit the range they can rotate by mounting them on e.g. a boat; players can only turn around 180 degrees if mounted on a vehicle

[glacial narwhal]

Any other ways?

[thorn isle]

you can send them teleport/relative rotation packets to try and make them face a certain direction, but it will feel jittery; depending on the player's latency it can be very ass

i once tried to implement a skyrim style system where I slowly rotate the player to face the npc they're talking to, but it was very awkward no matter how i tweaked the numbers

these are basically the three extant options

pick your poison

[sly topaz]

relative teleport should get a pretty smooth rotation for that kind of thing no? Latency aside

[rotund ravine]

Clientside mods

[smoky anchor]

you could theoretically get rid of the jitter by applying a shader that just forces the view matrix to some values
ofc that might fuck with what gets rendered due to culling
but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thorn isle]

only if it's super slow

since it doesn't interpolate, even just a few degrees worth of rotation appears very jittery

[glacial narwhal]

I'll do this then! Thank you!

But is there anyway to check if the clicked inventory is the player own inventory?

[echo basalt]

Does anyone have a core shader to disable the advancements menu

I do some packet stuff to open a custom thing but the advancements menu flickers

if I remove all the advancements the client stops sending that packet

[ripe depot]

how do i get the entity from the tile?

[sly topaz]

you can't

[ripe depot]

so how do i store that data

[sly topaz]

you would have to serialize the BlockState, for which there is no form of serialization right now

[ripe depot]

so would i have to make a pr to spigot or something

[sly topaz]

that would be a good idea if you plan to do this in a public plugin

[ripe depot]

i don't

it's private

[sly topaz]

well, it'd be a good idea nonetheless as it'd incur less of a maintenace burden on you in the long run

that being said, you can probably hack away a solution using internals

[ripe depot]

wait, i think i found something on the forums (recent as well, it's 1.21)

                    if (state.getType() != Material.AIR) {
                        if (state instanceof TileState) {
                            System.out.println("Is tile state!");
                           
                            TileState tileState = (TileState) state;
                           
                            CraftPersistentDataContainer cpdc = (CraftPersistentDataContainer) tileState.getPersistentDataContainer();
                           
                            NBTTagCompound nbtTagCompound = cpdc.toTagCompound();
                           
                            String serialized = nbtTagCompound.toString();
                           
                            System.out.println(serialized);
                           
                            // Add the serialized NBT data to a list that will be saved.
                            pdcs.add(serialized);
                        }

i don't have the NBTTagCompound class though

or the CraftPersistentDataContainer

[sly topaz]

those are internal classes, though that won't really serialize the whole tile entity, just their PDC

[ripe depot]

is that not the tile entity data

[sly topaz]

it is not, that's the custom data plugins inject into it

[ripe depot]

oh

[young knoll]

You can get the entire block entity if you cast to CraftBlockState and then getHandle or whatever it is

[worldly ingot]

*if that entity is in the world

[ripe depot]

how do i get access to CraftBlockState, and other Craft classes? i don't have them for some reason

[young knoll]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[ripe depot]

oh i see

[sly topaz]

wonder how hard it would be to make EntitySnapshot support it

[ripe depot]

i'm already serializing entitysnapshot, so if there's a way to get it from the tile entity it would make everything so much easier

[young knoll]

?

Ah wait it’s probably a spawner?

[ripe depot]

i can't get it work, it just says it couldn't find the package

in the post, it says org.spigotmc:spigot instead of :spigot-api, but i tried both and neither work

[sly topaz]

read the post carefully

[ripe depot]

oh

buildtools

lol

[sly topaz]

it honestly doesn't look like it would be too hard to make EntitySnapshot support tile states, one would just have to make an EntitySnapshot impl that uses BlockEntityType save/load methods instead of the EntityType ones

I wonder if it just wasn't considered when making that API or they just didn't want to scope creep the feature

[young knoll]

Well the entity snapshots are designed for entities

Block entities are only “technically” entities

[ripe depot]

ok, so what should i do to serialize the block entities?

make a custom EntitySnapshot implementation?

[ripe depot]

that just returns the BlockState, which i already have access to

[thorn isle]

like already said, you cast the BlockState interface type to its implementation type, CraftBlockState

and then call getHandle() on it to get the NMS block state

and on that you should be able to find the serialization method

[ripe depot]

getHandle returns the BlockState

[thorn isle]

yes, nms block state

distinct from bukkit block state

[ripe depot]

why don't i just cast to CraftBlockEntityState? that stores the EntitySnapshot

[thorn isle]

i don't know, i've never worked with or used entitysnapshots

but if you want the nms object with the serialization methods, getHandle is your ticket

[ripe depot]

what method would i use on the BlockState?

[thorn isle]

((CraftBlockState)block.getState()).getHandle()

[ripe depot]

no i meant on the getHandle result

[thorn isle]

i don't remember

that's nms; there is zero documentation and you are on your own

[ripe depot]

i miss fabric already

[thorn isle]

from what i recall you probably want the block entity instead

[ripe depot]

so, the CraftBlockEntityState? #help-development message

[thorn isle]

LevelChunk::getBlockEntity(BlockPos) is the first path to the block entity i see

alternatively cast to CraftBlockEntityState

which only works for furnaces and other things that are actually block entities, of course

from that you can get the nms block entity

[young knoll]

What are we doing with the block entity anyway

[slender elbow]

lighting up a joint

[thorn isle]

serializing it to persist it, i guess

though come to think of it, doesn't bukkit already offer something for that? or was that only for blockdata

[young knoll]

Probably only block data

You could technically export it as a single block Structure

[crimson agate]

Can I use the new dialogs in spigot?

[sly topaz]

It should work for any tile state

[grand flint]

yeah

[crimson agate]

How, do I create the dialog? How to show I know

[grand flint]

idk

[ripe depot]

serialising it to load it later

custom world serialiser/deserialiser

.getSnapshot() is protected on the CraftBlockEntityState, is there any way to access it/set it?

or alternatively, where does minecraft handle serialisation/deserialisation? i could look at how they do it

[sly topaz]

getSnapshot just gets a clone of the BlockEntity

honestly, you can just use CraftBlockEntityState#getSnapshotNBT

[crimson agate]

I am trying to use the InventoryDragEvent, but it doesn't fire. I have doublechecked everything, I registered the class (2 Events in same Class, 1 works, other (DragEvent) doesnt) and I want to know why. Do I have to pay attention to anything when 2 events in 1 class or what. The event isn't even fireing. I want to detect if the player puts some trash into the GUI, but it just lets him, and doesn't do anything.

[sly topaz]

are you in creative mode

[earnest girder]

does anyone know the best method for cancelling breezes opening doors with wind charges?

[slender elbow]

i believe it calls EntityExplodeEvent

with ExplosionResult.TRIGGER_BLOCK

[crimson agate]

Yes, why

[slender elbow]

that event, along with many other inventory events, does not work in creative mode

creative mode just tells the server "spawn this item with this data in this slot", there is no dragging happening on the server

test on survival

you can use the InventoryCreativeEvent, but that event lacks so much context due to how creative mode inventories work, good luck dealing with it

my personal suggestion is to simply not bother with creative mode and disallow its usage, or usage of your inventories with it altogether

i'd just get rid of creative mode tbh lmao

[crimson agate]

Thanks for the info. I was just in create for testing purposes, in the actual game I am making, you are in survival mode.

[sharp zenith]

so I just started my mc server and I want to have 2 custom commands /discord and /shop. I use the mycommand plugin and this is the custom.yml script

``discord:
command: /discord
type: TEXT
text:
- "&bClick to join our &9Discord: &n&lhttps://discord.gg/Xaa4qabY48"

store:
command: /store
type: TEXT
text:
- "&aVisit our &6Store: &n&lhttps://store.astopia.org"

rules:
command: /rules
type: TEXT
text:
- "&cServer Rules:"
- "&7- &cNo Hacking"
- "&7- &cNo Duping"
- "&7- &cNo Disrespecting Mods"
- "&7- &cNo Exploiting Bugs"
``

I want to make the links accessible and all but it just doesnt work

everytime i execute /store or /discord it says "tellraw @p etc etc and bassically the whole command

can anyone help

[worldly ice]

sounds like a mycommand issue, would ask the dev of that plugin specifically

also seems really weird that the dev is using commands instead of the API for sending messages

[sharp zenith]

Im the only dev working and got mostly no idea on what im doing

it also says this

I did restart the server a couple of times

also this is the response of the server once executing the command

[sharp zenith]

its a bukkit plugin so idk

[mortal vortex]

It’s a Bukkit plugin?

Or are you using Paper, and is paper reporting it as “Bukkit” when you run /pl

[unique shuttle]

Hi! Does anyone know how to detect when an arrow hits an Interaction entity? Thanks!

[young knoll]

They don’t

Interaction entities don’t have arrow collision

[unique shuttle]

cry

[worthy yarrow]

this looks like a formatting issue, any chance it's an open src project?

[sly topaz]

If you want arrow collision then just use any other entity with the invisibility potion effect

[unique shuttle]

Thanks, I already detected it using a block :)

[buoyant viper]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[pastel axle]

I notice Player#showDialog only accepts a Dialog, but ShowDialogClickEvent (in net.md_5.bungee.api.dialog.chat) accepts a string. The latter works great for opening dialogs defined in data packs but only via already-open dialogs. Is there an equivalent outside of that?

[sullen marlin]

No, didn't have any resource packs at the time and didn't expect them to be common. Could I please trouble you to open a feature request with a pack to test?

Should be a very easy addition one have something to test with

?jira

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa

[pastel axle]

Can do.

[sullen marlin]

Thanks

[pastel axle]

Created https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-8075

Right, dinner time. 😄

[mortal vortex]

what you having?

[pastel axle]

Tortellini in pumpkin!

I really need to remember to open feature requests more often. I sometimes spend an hour trying to do something, realise the API can't do it quite the way I want, and just give up. Which isn't helpful.

[mortal vortex]

Holy shit ur obs guy

i remember using one of ur patches when i had some issue with h265 on windows.

[misty ingot]

how can i get/edit the player's entire inventory?
(inventory, armor, offhand)

[sullen marlin]

look up PlayerInventory class

[lilac dagger]

yup ^

player.getInventory()

[misty ingot]

i was not aware that #getInventory gave you the armor and offhand too

[lilac dagger]

it does

[misty ingot]

i am so used to that so i didnt even bother checking documentation i just thought theres a different method

[grand flint]

L

[misty ingot]

well great

btw how does the uuid class know to always give you a unique uuid when you ask for a new one? is there a cache of used ones?

or are we just banking on the ultra low probability

[grand flint]

.-.

[misty ingot]

dumb question i know but like im curious

[grand flint]

UUIDs are effectively unique

[lilac dagger]

what like UUID.randomUUID?

[misty ingot]

but how does it know

in order for the new one to be unique it needs to make sure not give me a used one

[misty ingot]

i forgot what the exact method is but i guess so

[lilac dagger]

it can be processed in such a way to be unique

[misty ingot]

so like with a seed?

[lilac dagger]

for example for offline uuids it uses the player name and some prefix

i'm not sure what they do for online mode tho

[misty ingot]

im just looking to give some items some unique ids

[lilac dagger]

but i remember some users having duplicate uuids at some point

just do what offline mode uuids do then

[misty ingot]

o no

hmm

[grand flint]

dude

its not possible

to get the same one

if u do

u might as well go buy a lottery ticket

why do people worry about the stupidest little things 🙏

[lilac dagger]

UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes("OfflinePlayer:<player_name>".getBytes(StandardCharsets.UTF_8));

but as fase said

the random uuid is good too

[fossil cypress]

I’m still a beginner Java coder but is passing the main plugin instance as static as bad as people make it out to be?

[grand flint]

yeah ur plugin could explode

[fossil cypress]

[ivory sleet]

Na its fine

[ivory sleet]

Only problem is that it might still be a bit slow, not sure if it still uses secure random implementation wise

[misty ingot]

im really on the border between passing it to my classes or having a #getInstance and both feel ok

[crimson agate]

Still doesn't work, even in survival

[ivory sleet]

I mean generally speaking, singletons tend to punish you long term, but if you’re just making a spigot plugin; go for it

[misty ingot]

i try to always have getters and setters but this is the ONE thing im kinda like ehhhhhh

[crimson agate]

How does inventoryDragEvent work? What counts as a drag? Because it just doesn't like me

[eternal oxide]

When you click to put an item in an inventory slot BUT move teh mouse before releasing the click.

[ivory sleet]

i mean setters and getters is for encapsulation and abstraction

[crimson agate]

So click -> move mouse with item -> click -> item into another slot?

[eternal oxide]

it will fire for one slot or multiple

[crimson agate]

But that is how it should fire right? Because it doesn't even trigger

[eternal oxide]

just moving teh mouse after you press the mouse button will cause a drag event

if you are in creative, I can believe it does not fire

[crimson agate]

Strangely, I just got it to fire, even though I did nothing different lol

This is so strange, it triggers every 5th time

Does this thing have a cooldown or sth

[eternal oxide]

no

[crimson agate]

Is there sth more reliable?

[eternal oxide]

listen to both click and drag

[crimson agate]

Thanks, I'll just do it with click event

[alpine solar]

I need to try this

[mortal hare]

i really miss from java true immutable collection type

you cant create for example array which is immutable

if only we could do

final Foo final [] foos = {
    ...
}

we wouldnt need defensive copying for example for varargs if it was enforced at compile time level

[slender elbow]

have you considered using another language?

[pseudo hazel]

there are other languages?

[sly topaz]

why not just use something like Vavr and be happy

[buoyant viper]

just write Rust

[ripe depot]

how do i get LevelChunk?

[ripe depot]

ok, how do i load that now?

[worldly ingot]

Have Java considered introducing array freezing which they had a JEP open for a long long time ago and still haven't completed?

[slender elbow]

Yes

[ripe depot]

where does minecraft handle serialization?

[slender elbow]

depends for what

[wet breach]

I mean, only 4 years?

not sure I would say that is a super long time ago

[worldly ingot]

There have been 16 Java releases since Java 8, 11 years ago. 4 years is a long time

[young knoll]

There have been a lot of minecraft release since 1.8.8, 10 years ago (soon™)

Actually I wonder what version would be 4 years ago

?howold 1.18.2

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.18.2

[young knoll]

?howold 1.17.1

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.17.1

[young knoll]

Almost perfect

[wet breach]

well, Oracle releases like 2 versions a year sometimes 3

[drowsy helm]

@echo basalt can i see ur fawe extent for custom blocks

[echo basalt]

uh

I made it for itemsadder

nexo has native support

I assume that's fine, right?

[drowsy helm]

yeah I just want to sus how you are setting the block type/blockdata in the extent

because i asked in the disc and no one replied lol

[echo basalt]

afaik it was just scheduling a task

[drowsy helm]

yeah thats what I was doing initially and they said i was doing it wrong

but didnt explain how to do it properly

[echo basalt]

if you're doing it with IA there's no real alternative

[drowsy helm]

does //undo work for you? I found it doesn't work with a scheduler task

[echo basalt]

uh

[drowsy helm]

for replacenear and replace actions

[echo basalt]

might not I don't recall

[drowsy helm]

dang all good ill see if i can dig through src

[echo basalt]

https://sourceb.in/jzRFp40kBr

https://sourceb.in/FI6R45VLFx

I tried doing it the customblock route but worldedit makes a fucking array and stuff

it's all hardcoded

[drowsy helm]

ah that's annoying

yeah thats pretty much how I was handling it earlier

it behaves really funky, you can't undo replace or replacenear commands

[torn shuttle]

does entity#damage(int, entity) not trigger a entitydamagedbyentityevent?

and secondary question, how can I trigger one

I feel like it should, this is weird

what did I do

also this custom model plugin cursed

it's a never ending rabbit hole of optimizations

oh oops

correction the code I am running is livingEntity#damage(livingentityb)

which... maybe does not do that

that's annoying

[mortal vortex]

isnt that because its 0.0D?

wouldnt you need to provide a non-zero amount for it to fire

[torn shuttle]

no

well

sorry I did not type that right

attack

it's livingEntity#attack(livingentityb)

[mortal vortex]

o

[worthy yarrow]

you'd think a result of attack would throw an event

[torn shuttle]

yes

that is exactly what I thought

and yet here I am, doing everything I can

holding on to what I am

[mortal vortex]

manually call it?

[torn shuttle]

pretending I'm a superman

[echo basalt]

just look at the nms impl smh

[torn shuttle]

brother I'm already busy making async modeled entities

this is one of the few things I can use the api for

[worthy yarrow]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/LivingEntity.html#attack(org.bukkit.entity.Entity)

The description literally says you have enough context to throw an event

Wonder why it wouldn't be done internally

[torn shuttle]

wait is attack_damage new

surely not

[worthy yarrow]

Probably renamed

[echo basalt]

not non-players it doesn't fire

[torn shuttle]

smh

clear racism

[echo basalt]

if you're calling attack on a player it does fire

[torn shuttle]

#mobsmatter

[echo basalt]

from what I'm seeing

[sullen marlin]

yeah absolutely

[echo basalt]

so

player.attack(mob) fires
mob.attack(otherMob) doesn't

[worthy yarrow]

I guess you'd have to jump through a couple hoops to throw the event yourself...

[sullen marlin]

no it should fire for mobs attacking mobs from what I see

[echo basalt]

you just call CraftEvemtFactory

[worthy yarrow]

I haven't looked into how the server "calculates" damage though

[echo basalt]

this is literally all the proof you need

damage and attack are different things

michael derp 5

[sullen marlin]

?

[echo basalt]

it's funky

because of the damagemodifier api and stuff

[torn shuttle]

that's a weird way of saying it sucks

[worthy yarrow]

kek

[torn shuttle]

the whole mc health system is a complete nightmare

top to bottom

both conceptually and in implementation

[worthy yarrow]

I guess that's why a lot of people write their own damage systems

Easier to work with something you created anyway

[torn shuttle]

that's what I did yes

but even then I get dragged down by mc

[sullen marlin]

I just called Zombie.attack(anotherZombie) and get an EntityDamageByEntityEvent

[torn shuttle]

I'll double check, I ran into 3 other problems while doing this such as realizing my registry compatiblity system was backwards

just really making sure the registry values could never be found

ok yeah this is looking like a different problem, now let's cehck that

[echo basalt]

The NMS Mob overrides the LivingEntity impl and fires events

[worthy yarrow]

Fuck I've been running into that a lot recently, hate chasing them down

[echo basalt]

non-creatures attacking entities won't fire

[worthy yarrow]

Am I making too many registries or not enough smh

[echo basalt]

For example if you make a pig attack players or something

I wonder if wolves fire it

Block#getBlockType when

[worthy yarrow]

isn't there like .isAngry in wolf or something? Perhaps if that's true it will fire 🤷‍♀️

[sullen marlin]

They can't because they lack the attack_damage attribute so you can an exception

Idk what you get in older versions

[torn shuttle]

my kingdom for working on my own game

this is a nightmare

I have 5 different plugin projects open to get this one thing working

[echo basalt]

isn't there an attack method that passes damage as a param?

[sullen marlin]

Well yeah how does an experience orb attack a player

[torn shuttle]

fmm, rspm, em, emg, mc

ok yeah I guess my detector isn't working with my current model implementation for some reason, let's see

[echo basalt]

I just have like 1-2 really big projects open :)

[worthy yarrow]

I'm sure there are some creative things people could think of lol

[torn shuttle]

do you even have projects larger than mine

[echo basalt]

dunno

[sullen marlin]

Monoproject ftw

[echo basalt]

one of them is an RPG I've been working on for the past like 7 months

[worthy yarrow]

GOT impl

[torn shuttle]

64k lines of code

just checked

[echo basalt]

yeah this is about 80k

[torn shuttle]

1304 classes

we love classes

man that reminds me this doesn't count the translations anymore

[echo basalt]

it fucking froze the statistic plugin

[torn shuttle]

otherwise it would definitely be way over 200k

[echo basalt]

it's about ~1.5k classes

half of it is probably the ability system

[torn shuttle]

I can't make this a monoproject because the overlap between people who want models and people who want bosses is not exactly 100%

[echo basalt]

the other half is probably items

[torn shuttle]

or custom structures

or resource pack management

[echo basalt]

betterstructures memo leak when

[torn shuttle]

it just makes it hell on me

[sullen marlin]

public static boolean bossesEnabled = false; // modular

[torn shuttle]

he read my source code on how I made events modular, it's joever

in my defense I made a slick ui you only have to run once to pick which stuff you want on

see, very modular, very cool

it has an animation and that's how you know it's good

[worthy yarrow]

Magma makes me want to go to school for 20 years and only focus on cs

[echo basalt]

that takes like 15 minutes to make

[worthy yarrow]

I don't mean the ui

[echo basalt]

maybe 30 if you're using a state machine

[torn shuttle]

grap des is passion
hic ign my

[echo basalt]

I can't wait to spend 2 months writing a profiling lib when we launch the project at work ❤️

[torn shuttle]

actually took me way less time than that because it's built into a neat little thing I made

[echo basalt]

that neat thing prolly took you 3 months

[torn shuttle]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[echo basalt]

paste is down

[torn shuttle]

that thing is still broken

[echo basalt]

sourceb.in

[torn shuttle]

yeah

https://srcb.in/DcOFCfsD4G

haters will say it's ugly

I say hating is ugly

[sullen marlin]

Weird

No one said

[torn shuttle]

I said like weeks ago

[echo basalt]

hardcoded fucking items

[torn shuttle]

why on earth would the plugin initialization not be hardcoded my dude

are admins going to customize what the 1-time first run menu says to say something that it doesn't do?

[worthy yarrow]

Do you use minimessage magma?

[torn shuttle]

no

[worthy yarrow]

Just regular & codes always?

[torn shuttle]

until spigot updates yeah

[worthy yarrow]

kek

[torn shuttle]

or until enough people annoy me about it

whichever happens first

[worthy yarrow]

It's really nice :p

and you only have to shade all of adventure

[torn shuttle]

I can not exaggerate just how little I care

it surely must be a negative value

[worthy yarrow]

Something like that

I only like it because & codes are too limiting

Well without additional work I don't wanna do

[torn shuttle]

believe it or not I don't spend my days thinking what shade of green I'm going to make the next 5 characters in my message

[worthy yarrow]

I only say that in the sense of configuration, it's nice as an end user to have more options when it comes to it

Not that this point relates to your snippet, but still niche configurability options make the end users very grateful

most times

[torn shuttle]

clearly they also don't care because I think I've had 5 requests for it total

[worthy yarrow]

Well if the impl doesn't exactly revolve around fancy text colors, then sure

[torn shuttle]

why is this entity not tagged man

it should be tagged

[worthy yarrow]

My only real point being that whether it may be an issue now or later, it still could be an issue

And tbf we don't see too many qol api from spigot so

[torn shuttle]

what kind of cursed bs did I do here

[echo basalt]

hm

how would you guys write a profiling lib

or something that pushes stuff to a time series database

[torn shuttle]

I'd probably start by going on #help-development and asking something like "how would you guys write a profiling lib"

then while waiting for the answer ask the same thing to chatgpt

and probably have the answer before I am done typing this

[echo basalt]

chatgpt never comes up with good apis

[torn shuttle]

well you never said it had to be a good profiling lib

[echo basalt]

things like that go without saying

[worthy yarrow]

bang

I did the work for ya

When did chatgpt start putting emojis in responses

[echo basalt]

hm

that's a good start

[torn shuttle]

long enough ago that if you put any emojis anywhere right now you get accusde of being a bot

[echo basalt]

I can then add context to the scope like a player or something

[torn shuttle]

same with em dashes

suddenly everyone is an em dash expert

[worthy yarrow]

Never hoid of it

[torn shuttle]

but that's just a theory - a game theory

[worthy yarrow]

I'd rather be an expert on one topic than an idiot in a lot of topics

[torn shuttle]

alright so

where were we 15 minutes ago

what if players attack a living entity

man now it's doing it twice, what

[worthy yarrow]

is it two of the same events?

[torn shuttle]

yeah

[worthy yarrow]

Perhaps it's throwing entityDamageByEntity and EntityDamageEvent

damn that took me too long to type out

[torn shuttle]

maybe it's maybeline

hm

man I'm starting to regret that cooldown code I removed

new use for ai

just have it generate a ton of debug messsages on my behalf

the more I debug this the more confused I get

[bold nebula]

Im using nms to simulate a smooth recoil but im not able to move my screen while doing the recoil, anyone know why?
https://github.com/JakeGBLP/NMS/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta1

[torn shuttle]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

that's why

damn it

me stuck wondering why the damage was wrong, it's because I am running the attack method after attacking

so the cooldown is about as bad as it can be

oh boy how do I even fix that one

[echo basalt]

you do some inverse mathematics

the damage is linear to the cooldown percentage

full bar = full damage

half bar = half damage

[quartz gull]

because you're probably moving the screen without taking user input into account

[torn shuttle]

that wouldn't solve the main problem which is to know what their cooldown was before this

I can't even really pass the cooldown forward because it's not guaranteed that the action is going to result in damage happening

hm

[bold nebula]

Uhm wdym

This is the code i use (it's skript-reflect)

allows me to use java language into skript

[torn shuttle]

aw man

what do you mean you can't set player attack cooldowns

this makes it so much worse too

[mortal vortex]

y skript anywyas

[bold nebula]

my gun system is based on skript

[torn shuttle]

down from 30%, which was down from 70% before that

not too bad

there's a lot of entities loaded right now

hm still got some stuff I can improve but I think I can live with this for now

[remote swallow]

Yeah but 30% of what

[mortal vortex]

probably the thread consumption

[plain vessel]

I'm going to write a plugin Minecraft for processing donation requests from a website. And I want to know which of these frameworks is best suited for my task in terms of security and performance. Or maybe use a completely different framework for this or even change the way the donation is processed, that is, something instead of REST API?

[mortal vortex]

okay which frameworks?

[mortal hare]

does any of you use checker framework in CI/CD pipeline?

i wonder if its worth it to set it up for example for jspecify annotation checking

since intellij has good support but when it comes to vscode, it doesnt know what to do with @NullMarked classes

[wary harness]

how to fix this problem

https://pastebin.com/uW0iFv6y

happens when I compile plugin with lates spigot api

actually all of them after 1.20.4

[mortal hare]

probably plugin was compiled against legacy API

and you're importing the artifact .jar file i guess?

[wary harness]

well thing is plugins stops working on older versions

[mortal hare]

because plugin uses some kind of API which is not present in older versions of Spigot

[wary harness]

in this case we have Sounds class

[mortal hare]

you need compatibility layer classes to fix those kind of issues for multiversion support

[wary harness]

what do you mean by that

making multi modular project

and compile each module for specific version

basicaly I should have interface class and then load proper version instance

like with NMS

[mortal hare]

no, import every single version of spigot api you need into your project, make an interface with generic methods which should be consistently implemented across various versions and then implement that interface for each spigot api

then at runtime you check the spigot version and then using plugin's classloader load the specific class you need

well you can also make module for each version and shade it into fat jar

it depends™

spigot API is backwards compatible but not forwards compatible, it doesnt backport API features back to older versions of minecraft

that means you can use deprecated methods in modern spigot versions which are not deprecated in older versions at some degree, but its not recommended tho

[young knoll]

It’s not fully forwards compatible at compile time

Many enum constants have been renamed over the years

[wary harness]

well that is the problem

[mortal hare]

its not win32 api

TL;DR

[wary harness]

that is cose of my error

I think easier work around this would be droping old versions

and fuck it

let people use older jars without new fatuers

I think it is not worth hassling

[mortal hare]

i usually decouple my plugin logic from spigot api's itself

and implement gluecode for spigot api and nms through other package/module

[young knoll]

You can use the old api and the old constants

Spigot will remap them at runtime

[wary harness]

currently I compile against 1.20.4 and then it works on new and old version

[mortal vortex]

to a degree

[wary harness]

but if I want to use new api like custom models with Components insted of Intager based ones I am not able because that is not yet implimented in 1.20.4

but like I said droping older versions will make my life easier

[mortal hare]

because as i said spigot doesnt backport features

[wary harness]

I know I unerstand

I was just asking is there any simple work around it

[potent crescent]

guys How to post src in GitHub?

[young knoll]

Yeah modules would be your best bet

[mortal vortex]

learn a tad bit of git and then use the github desktop app

[potent crescent]

its app not web!

lol i wasnt know

[bold nebula]

Im using nms to simulate a smooth recoil but im not able to move my screen while doing the recoil, anyone know why?
https://github.com/JakeGBLP/NMS/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta1

[young knoll]

Can you post a link to the actual recoil code

[bold nebula]

this is the code

[lilac dagger]

skript looks so much like java now that you might as well use java

[sullen marlin]

Wow you weren't exaggerating

[bold nebula]

Thats skript-reflect

my gun system is made with skript

so i gotta use skript

i just need to know if the problem is the plugin or the code

[smoky anchor]

With this you are setting the players rotations, can you not do a relative rotation ?
Idk how/if that would work

[bold nebula]

It will feel jittery

I tried everything

teleport flags

nms

packetevents

mythicmobs recoil

[lilac dagger]

what about making recoil only in bullet trajectory

and leave yaw pitch of player as is

[bold nebula]

I can't because its raytrace

there is no bullets

[lilac dagger]

raytrace is what i'm talking about

one sec

[bold nebula]

This is what im trying to get

it's the only server i know that managed to do it

[smoky anchor]

Could this be shader fuckery ?

Do this with F3 and do not move mouse, does your pitch/yaw change ?

[grand flint]

nah its not shaders cuz mythic crucible does it without a rp

[bold nebula]

I just tested it and its jittery

[grand flint]

crucible

?

[bold nebula]

no the recoil

[smoky anchor]

test this aa

[grand flint]

recoil in what

with crucible?

[bold nebula]

mythicmobs recoil skill

[grand flint]

oh might be cuz of version

but yeah shaders would make it much smoother

[young knoll]

Technically Steve is probably strong enough to use a gun without recoil

:p

[grand flint]

real

[grand flint]

how about just give up and dont add recoil @bold nebula

[bold nebula]

this is the other option but if they managed to do that i want at least try

[smoky anchor]

well, you can always inspect what packets they are sending to know for sure what they're doing

[bold nebula]

really?

how

[grand flint]

yeah obv

its ur client

[bold nebula]

do i need a mod that reads packets?

[grand flint]

try and see

[smoky anchor]

ye that would prob be best

[grand flint]

jk idk probs a mod

[bold nebula]

https://modrinth.com/mod/packet-loggers

not for 1.21.4

[smoky anchor]

it is open source, you can build it and fix it yourself

It's just 2 classes

[bold nebula]

im not that smart

oh wait i can connect with 1.19+ to the server

[lilac dagger]

no rotation

it looks like shaders

or some potion

[mortal hare]

i remember writing something like this in 2020

and then i got mocked for using skript

after like i was like: 🖕 , im gonna prove u that im capable of learning java