help-development

[thorn isle]

they've mostly progressed in terms of better instruction following and are able to use tools/functions better

[torn shuttle]

I've extensively used pretty much every model for a lot of things, claude tends to be very considerably better at most things but it's just feeling like it's stagnating pretty badly

[thorn isle]

openai also fairly recently added support for encrypted reasoning contents which made their reasoning models much better at multi-step tasks

[torn shuttle]

but they're all still honestly nowhere near good enough to do any kind of production level programming beyond maybe the most boilerplate of boilerplate code, and even then it's hit and miss

[thorn isle]

they're not replacing a real programmer any time soon but they can do some relatively simple tasks autonomously and more complex tasks with oversight/feedback

[torn shuttle]

I think the most complex task it has ever done for me in a way that was actually pretty much flawless was me asking it to add lerp, slerp and a few other interpolation types as methods

oh and some regex

[thorn isle]

yeeeeah i haven't used sonnet at all but i've had pretty good experiences with more complex tasks with gpt4.1 mini, or even deepseek v3

e.g., uh

i have this nms based image map plugin

you place images like paintings, using physical items

i had it calculate the resulting size of the placed image in item frames and charge $50 per frame for the creation of the item

this involved making modifications to iirc 3 classes

[torn shuttle]

it's weirdly decent at math honestly

like

it sometimes feels like it is better at figuring out math as a part of programming than it is at programming in general

it could not figure out how to program a sane way of making two teleport points where it wouldn't get players stuck in a loop, but it can pretty much write all the rotation matrix systems I could ever want

[thorn isle]

i also had it set up placement limits per area in numbers of item frames, for which it added config entries, player feedback messages with placeholders, and refactored the item frame storage to support "get things in an area" lookups

what else did i have it do, uh

oh yeah

i had it send any downloaded images (for placement) to the openai moderations api and check if they're indecent, and give an error to the user if they are

all of these were basically 2-3 sentence descriptions of these features, took ~5 minutes to complete (deepseek is slow), and cost ~20 cents

[torn shuttle]

really teh only good thing about deepseek is how cheap to free it is

it's a truly bad model if you use it extensively

I guess it's slowly falling out of the collective consciousness but that thing still suffers from the problem where if the context gets to be too large it will just start spamming random words

[thorn isle]

there's a third thing, which is that you can see the reasoning contents, unlike for e.g. openai reasoning models

that is invaluable information for prompt engineering

and also helps fine tune prompts for non-reasoning models

[torn shuttle]

I recently removed my openai sub but I think that's still just a thing for the free tier

at least I was still seeing the reasoning when I was using it like two weeks ago

[thorn isle]

no, they don't let you see the reasoning contents even with the api; only "reasoning summaries"

the contents are hidden to prevent reverse-engineering the safety guardrails

[torn shuttle]

guess they changed then

doesn't really matter I use claude

that does expose the reasoning

[thorn isle]

that's pretty nice

well, assuming it's the actual reasoning contents and not a summary like with openai

[torn shuttle]

it is

[thorn isle]

i found one of my feature prompts

Implement image placement limits. Search within a X block radius of the attempted placement, and if there are more than Y total item frames used by image Panels within the radius, cancel the placement. Load these values from the config. Note that since we use packet/nms based item frame entities for images, you can't actually search for them through Bukkit: you need to use the PanelManager to find them. Display a friendly error message to a player if they go over the limit. Do this in the hanging place listener in PanelListener and decouple it from the API, as only player-placed images should be subject to the limit; also add a bypass permission node for admins.

[torn shuttle]

I guess that's reasonably simple enough, but I still find that more often than not the AI will do things that are horrendous in one way or another, like picking a horribly unoptimized way of fulfilling a task

[thorn isle]

yeah for complex tasks you need oversight

[torn shuttle]

you always do honestly

[thorn isle]

for those i usually look at the diffs after it's done and then just tell it to do things differently until it's up to my satisfaction

[torn shuttle]

there is one thing I like it for though, when I don't know the docs for something and I can just have it write stuff

pretty good for godot or unity

[thorn isle]

it's a decent way to crash-course into an ecosystem yeah

[torn shuttle]

not that I necessarily use what it gives but then I at least know where to look for what I need

for some lesser known stuff I tend to just feed it either the entire codebase or the api and tell it to do something for me

[thorn isle]

i do think with some smarter use of tools, functions, and context protocol, even the current small models can be very useful in doing code changes, with oversight

[torn shuttle]

I just wonder if we're starting to stagnate on real progress here

[thorn isle]

i think we have for a long time

[torn shuttle]

if we are then it's still well short of where it needs to be

definitely not, sonnet 3.7 with reasoning was a huge leap over models before that

[thorn isle]

reasoning models were kind of a bandaid, current research seems to show that they don't really use reasoning at all, just produce longer pre-learned predictions

[torn shuttle]

reasoning models in general are much, much better than what came before in my experience

even if they are a bandaid

[thorn isle]

it's a new dimension to scale the system along

[torn shuttle]

which I do agree with but that doesn't invalidate how good of a technique it is

[thorn isle]

but i'm not sure if "make it bigger" is working anymore, even if we add more dimensions to embiggen over

we sort of had "reasoning" even before reasoning models, with chain of thought and tree of thought methods, but the models weren't really trained to leverage them well since they were trained to keep their responses short

[torn shuttle]

can a system that is trained on how humans think even become better than humans at thinking without changing how it thinks in the first place

something to think about

[thorn isle]

probably

[torn shuttle]

hm

[thorn isle]

but language is a very small, keyhole-sized window into "thinking"

[echo basalt]

I don't really use chat models but I haven't really felt a decent update for copilot-like AIs

[torn shuttle]

AKTUALLY

[thorn isle]

i'm still waiting for them to train a model on like egr graphs or something

[torn shuttle]

I'll have you know I have a bachelor's in linguistics

[echo basalt]

I still use supermaven even though it's pretty much abandoned

I tried copilot a couple months ago and it's still ass

[torn shuttle]

and there's a whole field on how reasoning and language are intertwined

[echo basalt]

I heard grok4 is decent, we tried it at work yesterday and it made a website to visualize some formulas we made with sliders and stuff

[torn shuttle]

haven't looked at that yet

[thorn isle]

shore, but a lot of the shit that goes on in your noggin gets trimmed out on its way out of your mouth

[torn shuttle]

does it have api access yet

[echo basalt]

it's expensive as shit afaik

15$ per million tokens

no clue about api

[torn shuttle]

same as the rest then

[thorn isle]

that's not even expensive

[torn shuttle]

they're all price fixing at this point

[thorn isle]

the actually expensive models are like

[torn shuttle]

30

[thorn isle]

o1-pro at $600/million tokens

o3-pro iirc dropped it to "just" $300

or maybe that was 300 and 150

[torn shuttle]

man this is such trash

the api is unusably expensive for me

[thorn isle]

enroll in the data sharing plan so they can steal all your shit and you'll get 10M or something daily tokens free

[torn shuttle]

3 in 15 out for grok 4

[thorn isle]

e.g. gpt-4.5 which is normally $150/million tokens

[torn shuttle]

the standard

same exact price as sonnet 4

[echo basalt]

just deepseek that shit

[torn shuttle]

crazy how they all independently decided on the price without looking at the price of others

hi claude

very nice price

remember when prices were lowered by 50% every 6 months? good days

we need another deepseek bazooka on this pricing

[thorn isle]

openai did drop them by around 30% i think between 4o and 4.1, and prompt caching prices halved from 50% to 25%, and they introduced the flex tier thing that iirc stacks a 50% discount on top of all those

[torn shuttle]

guess i might try gpt 4.1

[thorn isle]

in real world terms i saw my usage in dollars drop by about ~50% because i use a lot of prompt caching

[torn shuttle]

last time I tried it it was unusably censored

like

man what was it

[thorn isle]

they also introduced 4.1-nano which is half the price of mini but still enough for simple tasks

[rotund ravine]

Gpt has been feeling rlly censored for me

[torn shuttle]

oh I remember

I was generating a summary of my D&D session transcript

[young knoll]

AI is bad

That is all

[torn shuttle]

and it refused to because there was scenes of violence in it

you know, like you have in D&D

just guys fighting

great

some real pg 13 action too

[thorn isle]

mmm i don't think i've run into that ever

[torn shuttle]

well how many D&D transcripts have you fed into it and asked for summaries

[thorn isle]

i frequently use mini to translate chinese web novels with like 🍇 and proper violence and it never complains

the chinese are weird with that shit

[young knoll]

Why do you need it in English

[torn shuttle]

tbf I swore gpt off after that one and never tried their api again

[thorn isle]

i also use it 24/7 on my server to censor nsfw messages

[torn shuttle]

guess I'll go try out uh

4.1

[thorn isle]

i have more than a few hard n words getting thrown around all the time

and it never complains

[torn shuttle]

it is half the price of sonnet 4 at least

[young knoll]

Can’t you censor NSFW messages without killing the planet as much

[torn shuttle]

no

[thorn isle]

nah i want to keep the context coherent

[torn shuttle]

I used to kill the planet for no benefit before, I was doing it before just for the love of the game

this is just an amazing cherry on top

[thorn isle]

e.g. it will substitute restarted (as in mentally left behind) to dumb

i can't say the word here because your crappy non-substituting world filter stops me

[young knoll]

Alternatively

Replace it with ***

[thorn isle]

half of my chat will become unintelligible

[young knoll]

That sounds like an issue with your players

[thorn isle]

e.g. it's fairly frequent net lingo to say something is restarted

what they actually mean is that it's dumb

[echo basalt]

silly

[thorn isle]

but some people get their panties in a twist so i'm nice and filter it for them

[torn shuttle]

man I was about to say something really prescient

but now illusion ruined it

there's like a decade gap in not using that kind of language

people did when I was a kid, then it stopped for like 10-15 years and now it's coming back

[thorn isle]

i also use it for realtime translations

since it's much cheaper than any translation api out there

[torn shuttle]

aktually

not true

but not that it matters

[thorn isle]

oh yeah? what's cheaper

i went through 4-5 of the major translation apis including iirc amazon and google but all of them were 5 or 10x the price

[torn shuttle]

there's some professional tools that run entirely locally so basically just the price of your electricity but it doesn't matter because they're specialty stuff

I run a translation business

[thorn isle]

wouldn't i need a license for that

[torn shuttle]

uh for the good ones yes

kind of

they're not really made to be real time for the most part anyway

[thorn isle]

i mean i could probably find a free oss machine translation thing out there but i feel like it'd be kind of shit

[torn shuttle]

so it would be a bit janky

plus if you are doing in-game chat I would recommend ai instead because it has a better shot at understanding context and slang

people hardly type correctly in games in the first place

[thorn isle]

yeah it works pretty well

even with the dumbest nano model

[torn shuttle]

yeah translation is definitely a solved problem for the easy stuff

[thorn isle]

translations end up sounding a bit janky because in the middle of nowhere there's suddenly a perfectly capitalized and punctuated sentence, but it's more than understandable

[torn shuttle]

that's one of the things I keep seeing people get wrong about ai

I see so many people accusing random posts of being written by AI when they're nonsensical and are written horribly when AI is so much better at typing and expressing ideas than the average random comment on social media

[thorn isle]

you can wrangle it to use incorrect language but it becomes very difficult with the cheaper models; most ai slop online is full of textbook grammar, oxford commas, and em dashes

unfortunately outside of chatrooms i write very similarly so i get accused of being chatgpt on the daily 🤡

[torn shuttle]

yeah same

it's like how people were making fun of the word delve during chatgpt 3.5

I like that word

I use it

[thorn isle]

my sin is the em dashes

[barren quarry]

Hello, could you please tell me what the issue is with the SpigotMC API when trying to get the latest plugin version? I’m getting a 403 error.

[slender elbow]

spigot infra shitting the bed rn

[thorn isle]

mojang authservers were down for a bit earlier as well

[eternal night]

I am trying to clone CraftBukkit, it is giving me a 403, pls help @slender elbow

[slender elbow]

that's good

[eternal night]

[keen lake]

Been happening all day

Nothing can be fetched from spigot hub

[eternal night]

[pure dagger]

WHAT IS THAT EMOJI

cool

stupid question but i need to ask
if im making a plugin for someone, and they have another plugin - economy plugin (from someone else) and they want my plugin to check the money, add money etc. the economy plugin should have an api.

right?

[mortal hare]

my life is a lie

i didnt knew you can mark method with throws for unchecked exceptions and in this case compiler doesnt nag you to t it try/catch it use its unchecked runtime exception

acting like a javadoc @throws but embedded into method signature itself

eh its useless but cool

[wet breach]

your eyeballs are leaking, should turn right side back up to prevent that

[pure dagger]

Yeah i never used that

Idk how you do it

But the method above has to try catch it or also throw

[wet breach]

when you use throws while the method itself doesn't need to catch it, anything that uses that method will need to though. It is more useful when you are making an API and you want the user to catch the exception instead of the API handling it

[sturdy reef]

So i saw that the only option to make a double jump functionality is by allowing flight to players, the problem is, im making a plugin on commission for a server that has 100+ plugins running on the same server, playing around with the player's flight status can mess up other plugins,
** is there any other way of doing it?**

PlayerInputEvent can be triggered if the player walked in any direction while holding spacebar, so it's out of the picture

[echo basalt]

uh

client-side the flight status?

[novel kite]

Did Spigot also transition away from using Maven Central or was that only Paper?
Paper has now broken the "libraries" system in plugin.yml for many dependencies since they're using a Google mirror that doesn't have everythinf

[eternal night]

spigot is on maven central

which, well, it'll work unless your plugin is run on a host with a lot of those ™

[hard tangle]

<Deleted and reposted here from help-server i got the wrong channel>
Hi guys, i wanted to ask a simple thing is there a world where i can actually set a velocity multiplied by higher than 4.5 in Spigot without it becoming imprecise? with a value of 4.0 it's super precise when i start going up from there it starts being precise only if the player is looking directly on a X or Z vector in the inbetween it deviates a lot

thank you 🙂

[potent pecan]

How do I add an update system to my spigot plugin?

[grand flint]

like notifications?

[potent pecan]

ye

[worldly ingot]

Velocities can't be set higher than a magnitude of 4 so

Or 4 on each axis, I can't remember

[worldly ingot]

Short rundown:

• Get your resource's id from the Spigot URL
• Query the resource API to get the most recent version
• Compare that version against your plugin's current version
• Profit???

If you're hosting on another platform, the first two steps will obviously differ, but generally speaking, whichever platform you upload to, it probably has an API to query for its update history or most recent version

[hard tangle]

OK that's a great info to have, so basically there is NO way i can make it go faster right?

[echo basalt]

TIL I'm a toml mixup

[violet blade]

whats the itemflag to hide the potion effect from tipped arrows?

[wet breach]

Yaml is a superset of json

[wet breach]

Should be noted that the version string you use on the resource should follow a standard to make it easier to compare versions lol

[limpid furnace]

Hello! I am using Spigot's 1.19.4 API and, for some reason, TrimPattern and TrimMaterial are null in 1.19.4. For example:

plugin.log(Level.WARNING, "Test: " + TrimPattern.SENTRY); // null

The exact same jar does seem to work (isn't null) in 1.21.7. I'm aware that 1.19.4 is old and that it's marked as experimental, but is it a known issue and is there a fix?

[young knoll]

Do you have the datapack enabled

[limpid furnace]

Which datapack?

[young knoll]

The 1.20 experimental one

[limpid furnace]

Oh, no. I guess that's the issue. Thanks

[winter jungle]

Is there a way to create a empty end world?

[young knoll]

Create a void generator and then set the environment to END in the worldcreator

Or use Bukkit.yml to replace the generator of the default end with your void generator

[winter jungle]

Oh that was easier than i thought, thanks! Is there also a way to change a existing world to the end dimension? Because i have a little spawn world that should be moved to the end, but if i just move the world into the world folder it gets replaced by the minecraft end world

[young knoll]

Probably something in level.dat

[winter jungle]

Alright, that sounds like its easier to just add a schematic

[mystic temple]

Just realized my first plugin and was wondering if these downloads are legit or not

[ivory sleet]

i mean probably

why not

[mystic temple]

idk, I am new to the space and getting that many downloads in 12 hours just didn't feel right in my head for some reason

[sullen marlin]

That many?

It's 5

[potent crescent]

@mystic temple how u send a image?

oh alr

[potent crescent]

i have send a report to delte my plugin How long does it take to delte it?

[sullen marlin]

About a day

[potent crescent]

alr thx

[empty dove]

[21:51:22 WARN]: java.lang.InstantiationError: io.lumine.mythic.bukkit.adapters.BukkitItemStack```
This is not a me issue right?

I am using the example code from: https://github.com/xikage/MythicMobs-API-Examples/tree/master like blank example code. How the code comes is how I am loading it right now

[sullen marlin]

Full stack trace

[empty dove]

https://pastebin.com/GPm7Bw5M

I literally copied and pasted the code from the github and tried to run the example and it doesnt work

[rotund ravine]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[potent crescent]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[rotund ravine]

Hmmm

[buoyant viper]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[rotund ravine]

Hmmm

[buoyant viper]

Hmmm

[wet breach]

Hmmm

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-9448555367471134656

[potent crescent]

Hmmmmmm

[torn shuttle]

you know

for the next april fools

definitely should switch that command to show you were in paper all along

that would be pretty funny

[misty ingot]

theres no such thing as a map with indexes right

id have to go O(N) for getting a value at an index if i use a LinkedHashMap
no better way?

[misty ingot]

swap it out with the meme format

its all paper? always has been

[pure dagger]

can anyone confirm

[young knoll]

Yes

Or it should support the vault api

[pure dagger]

oki thanks

[pure dagger]

player.spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, new TextComponent("erete!"));

is this the right way to do it ?

[sullen marlin]

yes, but recommend ComponentBuilder

[pure dagger]

why?

TextComponent component = new ComponentBuilder(message).create()[0];

so like this?

do i create new component builder evry time

[buoyant viper]

pretty sure Player.Spigot#sendMessage takes in a BaseComponent var-args

[pure dagger]

whats that

[buoyant viper]

just sendMessage(ACTION_BAR, new ComponentBuilder("message").create());

[pure dagger]

so no [0]

[buoyant viper]

a fancy array, basically

[pure dagger]

yeah the ... thing

[buoyant viper]

yeah no need for grabbing an index

[buoyant viper]

yeah

[pure dagger]

but it will be always size 1 ?

[buoyant viper]

theres .build method for ComponentBuilder if itd bother u that much passing an array

i believe that one returns a single BaseComponent

[pure dagger]

okay

[pure dagger]

im sending an action bar message to a player every tick, it works on a server without any other plugins. but it doesnt show up on a server with these plugins
anyone know what could happen ?

[grand flint]

u should do a binary search to find it

delete half see if it happens

if it does then its that half

[pure dagger]

ohh

[grand flint]

if not its the other half

then keep repeating till u find it

[pure dagger]

this is not my server though

[grand flint]

also idk why u installrf player stats

u can just do /papi ecloud download

[pure dagger]

yeah..

thats not me

[grand flint]

without dowbloading it a s plugin

anwyays r u developing for it?

[pure dagger]

for someone yeah

[grand flint]

just install the same plugins on hr own server

and do the same search to find it

then u can tell them what causes or maybe its in the config

antylogout, chemmicspawn, passky, ranking, simpleclans may do it

also u got 2 essentialschat jars

delete the older one

[pure dagger]

nah

[keen lake]

Is it possible to open writtable books with packets? Because everytime I try it the book is not editable :/

[chrome beacon]

It is not

[daring light]

Would there be a way to restore a custom world to it's original state using SpigotAPI?

I want a world that resets every week

Now I was thinking of having a directory with the original state of the world and just delete the world and copy that directory everytime, but was just wondering if there was a built-in way to do this

[slender elbow]

no, that process you mentioned is pretty much standard

[mellow edge]

this is so smart, nice

[wet breach]

this is literally the best way even if there was an api for it

[azure vault]

can i force fence connections?

https://i.imgur.com/wmKn1Qw.png

i want the fence to connect to the grindstone, even if it looks wonky due to the smaller block model

[wet breach]

should be able to

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Fence#Block_states

according to the wiki, if the state is set to true in regards to the cardinal direction, it will extend it. So I suppose figure out which cardinal direction that grindstone is from the fence, and then on that fence set the blockstate cardinal direction you need to true

[worldly ingot]

Yeah you'll have to set the block state with physics set to false

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/Block.html#setBlockData(org.bukkit.block.data.BlockData,boolean)

You can set the fence side with https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/data/MultipleFacing.html#setFace(org.bukkit.block.BlockFace,boolean)

So get data, cast to Fence, set the side, set the block data with no physics

[winter crater]

Hey there

I am looking for experienced developers for my server if u're work is good I will be paying you

Pls do dm me

[winter jungle]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[lilac zenith]

Hello, I have noticed the method getForce() in the EntityShootBowEvent is now returning a float between 0 and 3, instead of between 0 and 1 as stated in the docs. Is this a bug or is it something with my plugin?

[worldly ingot]

Best to report that on the Jira, yeah

[lilac zenith]

I'll do, thank you

[potent heron]

how can i upload a plugin in spigot? make me @ plis

[slender elbow]

you go to the resources section and click add resource

[potent heron]

@slender elbow

were

[slender elbow]

click Resources

[potent heron]

ok i see the button

thanks

[pure dagger]

how to make api

?

[potent heron]

@slender elbow

in source code what i need to put the git repository?

[slender elbow]

yeah like github or forgejo

[pure dagger]

where do i learn that

[potent heron]

the api of spigot or what?

@pure dagger

[pure dagger]

your own plugin's api

[hazy parrot]

you can check on how other plugins are doing it

or even spigot

[pure dagger]

uhmm how

but how do i even do this

[young knoll]

Look at GitHub/stash

?stash for bukkits api

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

[pure dagger]

uhm

im creating an instance of class in the class itself

and... i can access private fields?

like its the same class but different instance.. im confused

[slender elbow]

i'm not sure what you mean

[pure dagger]

public class SomeClass {
    
    private int someVariable;
    
    public void idk() {
        new SomeClass().someVariable;
    }
}

you can access the private variable, even if its another instance

[slender elbow]

sure

that is correct java behaviour

private means that only the class can access the class' own fields, regardless of instance

[potent heron]

Look my first plugin https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/easyclimate.126942/

[wooden bay]

Beanstalk

[wooden bay]

Congrats
Not to be rude or anything js asking why does a climate plugin have a anti-swear/insult system

[potent heron]

For not install more plugins

[wooden bay]

Mind blowing

Good good keep it up, you got this

[potent heron]

Hace you downloaded i only want to now

[wooden bay]

Yes I downloaded it

[potent heron]

Oh thanks

[potent heron]

@wooden bay

Do you create any plugin

[upbeat hornet]

Damn it works super well

components:
    minecraft:custom_name: {"text":"API Test Sword","color":"gold","italic":false}
    
    minecraft:lore:
      - {"text":"This item was generated by","color":"gray","italic":false}
      - {"text":"ItemsAPI!","color":"aqua","italic":false}

And I added nms support for lower versions, so my one API can support servers under and above 1.20.5

[tender shard]

Kotlin beats java in every single important ascept imho

Idk why people still hate it

[worthy yarrow]

You and rad are the only two people to have ever said this tbf

[tender shard]

At least i know better now haha

Java just lacks simple qol stuff hence shit like lombok exists

[worthy yarrow]

I mean I’m not gonna diss on kotlin, it’s very nice and the syntax sugar from what I’ve used is great… but I still cannot read it past a first grade reading level and I feel it’s because of all the inferred types

[rotund ravine]

I’ll say it too

[tender shard]

I had the same issue, until i just started to use it

[worthy yarrow]

I like java because it’s extremely strict in its usage of syntax and because I always know what the hell im reading

[rotund ravine]

Just use IJ it’ll tell u what types are if u can’t infer it urself

[tender shard]

And it became a non-issue very quickly because IDE tells you the type and names should be descriptive anyway

[rotund ravine]

Yeah usually the name sorta becomes a typedescriptor too

[worthy yarrow]

It’s not that I can’t, I’d rather just read it and know from a given definition instead of fun this fun that kek

[rotund ravine]

fun has clear types though

[tender shard]

I had the same opinion 3 years ago

[worthy yarrow]

Call it preference, like I said I don’t dislike kotlin but I enjoy java more

[rotund ravine]

Skill issue

[tender shard]

But after you typed IStorageManager storageManager = new StorageManager(…) enough times… idk you should know that a StorageManager is an IStorageManager

[rotund ravine]

Neverr

Rawr java

[tender shard]

val storageManager: IStoragemanager in the constructor. No need to repeat it thrice

Then let guice handle the rest

I am too tired to construct shit myself

[worthy yarrow]

Psh fine I’ll just use java records everywhere with util classes

[tender shard]

You are confusing object classes with data classes I think

[grand flint]

LMAO

[worthy yarrow]

No, apparently just a bad joke

[grand flint]

also as if it is relatively similar topic

[tender shard]

Oh ok

[rotund ravine]

Does it make it always sunny?

[worthy yarrow]

I meant it in the way that kotlin has companion objects

[rotund ravine]

They are finee

[grand flint]

idk

[wooden bay]

yes

[potent crescent]

I sent a report to delete my plugin two days ago and it has not been deleted

what should i do

should i spam report 😂

[echo basalt]

just wait

[slender elbow]

i mean... that does not call the constructor

unless you mean val storageManager = StorageManager(...) ? but then the type is no longer IStorageManager

[potent crescent]

I don't want the number of downloads to increase. It has reached 7. 😂

i want keep the plugin private

[young knoll]

Then why did you post it

[rotund ravine]

Gonna download it

@potent crescent u got two spigot profiles uhoh

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/authors/itzabood69.2202142/

https://www.spigotmc.org/members/had11.2256560/

Bro reviewed himselff

[chrome beacon]

Insert ban gif

[young knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horrors-beyond-our-comprehension-low-tier-god-mods-banned-gif-8530537273735940092

[chrome beacon]

Phone drops to spf when browsing gifs sob

[potent crescent]

hhahahha

[potent crescent]

Self-encouragement hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[chrome beacon]

More like ban speedrun

[potent crescent]

I changed my mind, honestly.

ill keep the plugin gor my, servwr

e

[sullen marlin]

I'll give you encouragement for free bro

No need to break the rules

[potent crescent]

idk it is not allowed

[potent crescent]

and i dont nned just delete my plugin lil

lol

[sullen marlin]

It does say on the signup page not to make more than one account

[potent crescent]

its my brother acc

But I praised myself on his account 😂

[young knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fry-hmm-squinting-gif-4973356107513966870

[potent crescent]

Hmmmm

[potent crescent]

lol

md_5 ur a staff cant u delete my plugin?

[sullen marlin]

If you want it deleted, open a report

Why do you want it deleted

[potent crescent]

i did for 2 times

[potent crescent]

I changed my mind, I want it private

An hour after I downloaded it, I filed a report.

?howold 1.1

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.1

[slender elbow]

the fact that minecraft 1.0 is only two years older than gta v 😭

[young knoll]

When Minecraft VI

[tender shard]

Its crazy that there has been no new gta for 12(!!!) years now

Rockstar is either procrastinating

[grand flint]

well gta 5 is lasting good enough

[tender shard]

Or producing sth very very great

[grand flint]

i think its like just about time

for gta 6

its gonna be great no matter what 🙏

[young knoll]

What’s it got like

10 more months

[earnest girder]

if I have a Block can someone please show me the code to place an item frame on it on a given BlockFace? All my item frames are breaking

[rotund ravine]

Did u google it

[earnest girder]

yes please help somebody

[rotund ravine]

What have u tried

[earnest girder]

a lot of things bro

like 12 different methods

[young knoll]

?nocode

[undone axle]

It’s hard to answer a programming question without code
Oh no! You ran into a problem. But no worries, people are willing to help, but first they need to see your code. This is because otherwise, they would be providing help based on guesses instead of concrete knowledge. Whether it be a compile error, runtime error, or an unexpected output, I'm sure that if you were to provide code, you'd receive a quick solution.

[young knoll]

Just take the block, getRelative with the face you want to place it on, then spawn the frame and setFacingDirection to BlockFace#getOpposite

[earnest girder]

spawning an item frame takes a location

[young knoll]

Block#getLocation

[earnest girder]

ok, you sure?

[young knoll]

What else would it be

Might have to add 0.5 on all axis to centre it though

[earnest girder]

I cant believe ive been trying to place an item frame for 2 hours now

[earnest girder]

https://pastebin.com/pEyrZVMu
here, both spawn an item frame that breaks immediately

[remote swallow]

i feel like ive seen you send the same thing a few times and delete them all, be paitent

[young knoll]

Did you try adding the 0.5

[earnest girder]

yes

[earnest girder]

I was switching to a paste link

[earnest girder]

ive tried all 4 combinations of: block.getRelative(oppositeface), just block, adding 0.5, not adding 0.5

[young knoll]

Idk, place an item frame there manually and take a look at its entity data

[earnest girder]

how?

[young knoll]

I believe F3 I copies entity data

[earnest girder]

F3 opens coordinates

[young knoll]

F3 i

[earnest girder]

/summon minecraft:item_frame -39.50 179.50 4.97 {Motion: [0.0d, 0.0d, 0.0d], Facing: 2b, Bukkit.updateLevel: 2, Paper.SpawnReason: "DEFAULT", Invulnerable: 0b, OnGround: 0b, Air: 300s, PortalCooldown: 0, Rotation: [180.0f, 0.0f], FallDistance: 0.0f, WorldUUIDMost: -6423573177640467344L, Fire: -1s, TileY: 179, Invisible: 0b, Spigot.ticksLived: 742, Paper.OriginWorld: [I; -1495604678, 2114143344, -2041178201, -978612150], TileX: -40, TileZ: 4, WorldUUIDLeast: -8766793615286759350L, Paper.Origin: [-39.5d, 179.5d, 4.96875d], Fixed: 0b}

[young knoll]

Dangit Mojang why is the facing direction just a magic byte :(

Okay place it and setFixed(true)

That should at least stop it from being destroyed so you can see what’s wrong

[earnest girder]

ok

the problem is that its 1 block in front of the block and facing backwards

[young knoll]

Okay so switch the facing direction around and move it back a block

[slender elbow]

you're so right

[young knoll]

Yep that’s code

[blazing socket]

For some reason this isn't working. It prints the block being damaged but doesn't cancel it. Keeping in mind I am new to Java and Plugin development just started today but I have a very big programming background. Any help would be amazing thanks!

//Runs when a block is being broken.
    @EventHandler
    public void onBlockDamaged(BlockDamageEvent event) {

        //Getting the player.
        Player player = event.getPlayer();

        //Getting the block.
        Block block = event.getBlock();

        //Checking if the block is obsidian.
        if (block.getType() == Material.OBSIDIAN) {
            //Returning.
            return;
        }

        //Checking if the player is in creative.
        if (player.getGameMode() == GameMode.CREATIVE) {
            //Returning.
            return;
        }
        System.out.println("Block damaged");
        //Canceling the event.
        event.setCancelled(true);
}

[remote swallow]

did you register the event

[blazing socket]

Yes.

//Registering event listeners.
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(new PlayerEventListener(), this);

[remote swallow]

did you try adding some souts above your returns to check where its getting to?

[blazing socket]

Yea it gewts all the way down to the setCancelled method but it doesn't cancel the action.

I am wondering if setCancelled is like for a specific version cause I am using 1.21.1

Or is canceling the event not doing what I think it should do. Because what I got from the docs is that it cancels you attempting to break the block. So it would be like bedrock were you cant even attempt to break it.

Am I correct on that or?

[drowsy helm]

best way to do this is to give the player a very high mining fatigue effect

or packets, but that is a lot more work

[young knoll]

Does the event being cancelled just not update the client

Rip

[blazing socket]

Shouldn't be to hard.

[drowsy helm]

the way the client handles block breaking can sometimes be funny, wouldnt be surprised if it cancels server side but not client side

[blazing socket]

Ill try that.

[blazing socket]

Funny

Thank you for the help.

[young knoll]

Better than mining fatigue would be the attribute

But I think that was 1.21.2? Idk I don’t remember

[drowsy helm]

didnt even think of that, good shout

[young knoll]

The new game drop updates make it hard to keep track

[blazing socket]

So what is there an unbreakable attribute then?

Cause I am willing to update if it means that.

[young knoll]

block break speed

[blazing socket]

So is it an attribute for the block then?

And were would I find that in docs?

[young knoll]

It’s for the player

It’s in the Attribute class

[earnest girder]

what is the best way to put a map of your world in item frames (I have a 5k x5k world and want to put it on a 3x3 grid of frames)

[earnest girder]

how do I even load a map of the world?

[fresh timber]

How can I add a fake player to the tablist. (I am making a feature to hide all players but I want players to still be able to see other players in tablist)

[echo basalt]

You have to write out a renderer

[echo basalt]

Why don't you just remove the entity without removing it from tab

with some packet magic or something

[fresh timber]

I'm going to have to use packet magic either way lol but if there is an alternative I would definitely prefer it because right now using the hideplayer effect it like ruins command autocompetions and stuff too

I don't know how to do that though, do you?

[earnest girder]

does that require NMS?

[echo basalt]

Not necessarily, no

might be beneficial to use NMS as bukkit's map stuff is slow

Either NMS or PacketEvents or something

[echo basalt]

I do

Removing a player from the world and removing them from the server are separate actions

As a player can be in the same server but in a different world

You basically want to send out the same packets (remove entity) as changing worlds

[fresh timber]

I know like nothing about sending packets. How do I do that?

[fresh timber]

How is this done?

[earnest girder]

is there a good plugin for getting a map item with an image on it?

[sullen marlin]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/map/MapCanvas.html#drawImage(int,int,java.awt.Image)

You’re in the dev channel

[empty dove]

Damage event can not be called because its calling block break event

        Block blockType = e.getBlock();
        if(!blockType.equals("Obsidian") && !bde.getInstaBreak()) {
            e.setCancelled(false);
            bde.setCancelled(false);
        }
        e.setCancelled(true);
        bde.setCancelled(true);
    }```

This is what you should do

[worldly ice]

that is not a valid event handler

[empty dove]

LMAO, Yeah. I was providing an example

on mobile

Its not the exact but its similar to that

You would just seperate it

[worldly ice]

block damage event does get called when damaging a block but the visual is client-sided, so cancelling the event would only cancel the event on the server

[blazing socket]

Thank you.

[empty dove]

Well, what do I know lmao. I just started aswell. I figured since its insta-breaking, it didnt call the damage event

[worldly ice]

im not entirely sure if block damage gets called if the block is an insta-break, probably something to test

but either way the block is obsidian so it wouldn't apply

[empty dove]

they are also checking if they are in creative so in that instance it would be

[worldly ice]

they are cancelling if the player isn't in creative

[empty dove]

Ah, nvm

you right

[mellow edge]

if I stored an instance of an entity in a collection (like I did now), assuming that I only care about it in a minigame without any restarts, is there a way for the instance to become invalid if the chunk reloads?

[sullen marlin]

Think so... Store their IDs

[drowsy helm]

sounds like a lot of risk to save 1 line of code

[mellow edge]

entity id or uuid?

[drowsy helm]

uuid

[mellow edge]

yeah, thought so, basically I am refactoring some old code and I came across this

then I could do this?

    private IronGolem cachedGolem = null;
    @Nullable
    public IronGolem getBukkitInstance() {
        World world = game.getWorld();
        if (cachedGolem == null || !cachedGolem.isValid()) {
            return (cachedGolem = world.getEntitiesByClass(IronGolem.class).stream().filter(golem->golem.getUniqueId().equals(this.golemUUID)).findAny().orElse(null));
        }
        else return cachedGolem;
    }

instead of always iterating

[chrome beacon]

Use the getEntity method instead of looping

[thorn isle]

And don't bother "caching" it, getting an entity by uuid is very cheap and boils down to just a map lookup

[mortal hare]

project valhalla when

give me c# null safety in java!!!

[mellow edge]

speaking of caching, a World instance is valid until a server is reloaded / restarted?

[eternal oxide]

depends

[mellow edge]

assuming no other plugins interfere with it

[eternal oxide]

if no other plugins interfere, yes

[mellow edge]

it's a custom world manually loaded into the server...

[young knoll]

Define manually

Any world can be unloaded (except the main world)

[mellow edge]

unloaded by the server automatically?

I am just wondering for safety to not hold invalid instances of something, I could also always just call getWorld

[young knoll]

No, but a plugin can unload it

The server doesn’t unload worlds

[mellow edge]

so basically I have my plugin that manually loads and unloads it:

    private static void unregisterWorld(String filename) {
        for(World world : Bukkit.getWorlds()) {
            if(world.getName().equals(filename)) {
                Bukkit.unloadWorld(world, false);
            }
        }
    }

    public static World registerWorld(String world) {
        WorldCreator creator = new WorldCreator(world);
        System.out.println("world registered");
        return creator.createWorld(); //loads a world from disk
    }

if no other plugin unloads it, it is safe to store World instances?

[alpine solar]

ion think .createWorld() actually loads the world?

[eternal oxide]

it does

[mellow edge]

it does, that does not matter now

[alpine solar]

since when 🤔

[eternal oxide]

since forever

[alpine solar]

o

the more you know

yeah this should be fine

without other plugin doing the thing

[mellow edge]

I mean if I understand how that works, spigot won't randomly decide to change the instance unless the server is reloaded / restarted or it is intentionally unloaded

[young knoll]

Why do you loop through worlds to find the one with the right name

There’s Bukkit.getWorld(name)

[mellow edge]

that is a good point

changed

[thorn isle]

the World instance is tied to the world "instance", as in, it being loaded

a world that gets unloaded and then reloaded will produce a different World instance representing it, and the previous one will be invalid and shouldn't be used any longer

[mellow edge]

thanks

[thorn isle]

same principle as with entities; when they unload, their Entity instance becomes invalid, and when they load back in again, they produce a new Entity instance to represent them, and the old one remains invalid

[mellow edge]

for all entities I use UUIDs, but for world I assume I don't need to call getWorld each time if I know the world is valid

[thorn isle]

should be safe yes as long as you don't unload that world

[mortal hare]

is there any way to have jspecify annotations working with vscode?

[thorn isle]

if some other plugin randomly unloads it, that's more like an issue with that plugin and not strictly your fault

[mellow edge]

specifically for my minigame that happens in the same session anyway...

[mellow edge]

yeah

[mortal hare]

they do work in intellij but i cant find a way to make them work in vscode

[brazen obsidian]

Hi, how do I make the Bend Sinister Banner pattern? I can't find a PatternType for it.

It is basically a line which goes from the top right corner of the banner to the bottom left corner

[mortal vortex]

Have you checked the wiki?

Patterns have internal names which differ from their pretty names

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Banner/Patterns -> https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/block/banner/PatternType.html

Compare the two

[weak wasp]

Or is it DIAGONAL_UP_RIGHT?

[mortal vortex]

No? becasuse thats not Bend Sinister?

That would be Per Bend Sinister

[weak wasp]

Alright, alright

[mortal vortex]

no its not alright, Skibidi Toilet.

[brazen obsidian]

Thank you so much! You've really helped me!

[mortal vortex]

🗣️ 🤫🧏‍♂️ Sigma Sigma Boy Sigma Boy Sigma Boy

[wooden bay]

outdated

[fresh timber]

How can I use packets or something to hide a player from another player without hiding them from tablist/from command arguments. This always messes up tablist and stuff.

[wet breach]

you could just use the api to hide the player then

if you are not looking to hide from tablist

[fresh timber]

I'm looking for other ways to do it on bukkit docs but I don't see other ways to do it 😔

how do I use the api that way?

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#hidePlayer(org.bukkit.plugin.Plugin,org.bukkit.entity.Player)

this method will not alter the tablist. Hence it being perfect for your needs 🙂

[fresh timber]

which method? that site you sent is showing me the whole class

[wet breach]

Player.hidePlayer() is the method

and is part of the Player classs

[fresh timber]

Ah okay

I will try it out

[fresh timber]

yeah that's what I am using right now and it does hide them from command arguments and the tablist

e.g.

player.hidePlayer(Timelords.getPlugin(), loopedPlayer);

[wet breach]

interesting, maybe it finally got changed on that 🤔

anyways, I am assuming the hiding is causing issues with other things?

like knowing who is hidden or something?

[fresh timber]

uhh not really I could just make a command to figure out who is hidden if I needed, I just want to be able to see other players on tablist & auto complete them in command arguments even when they are hidden

all I want to hide is their actual player like model not from the server completely for that person

[wet breach]

I wonder if the deprecated method of hiding players would work. First for me that this method completely hides them now lol

[trim quest]

i dont understand that how can i fetch spawns as a List<List<Object>> or List<List<Integer>>

[wet breach]

A List<List<Object>>

Is simply 2 two lists

List<Object> would ideally be your coordinates which is then stuffed into another list to hold all those lists

so its a list of lists

[trim quest]

i know but still dont work for both.

[wet breach]

you make the first list which is the List<Object>

and then you add that to the second list

Alright lets see if I can walk you through in how you would make such a thing.

https://github.com/frostalf/ServerTutorial/blob/master/ServerTutorial/src/main/java/pw/hwk/tutorial/data/Caching.java#L162

[trim quest]

then this should work

[wet breach]

so with the link I gave, I have there TutorialConfigs

which we can consider as the Object

I could make a bunch of TutorialConfigs and then toss them into a list

and then lets say I make a bunch of lists of those tutorial config lists

this would give us List<List<Object>>

Object being there is just that it is not imposing a specific object type

[trim quest]

I just want a small code snippet, I don't want to go through tons of code

pseudo code is also ok

[wet breach]

do you know how to add objects to a list?

[trim quest]

I know Collection Framework

so

i just dont know how this configuration api works

[wet breach]

it isn't complex really. List.add(Whatever you are trying to add)

so that is how you add something to a list

now you add stuff to the first list right?

The second List, is just going to hold objects that are Lists themselves

once again using the add method but this time we don't just add individual objects, but instead we are adding the list to a list

[trim quest]

how you would fetch those spawn datas :

worlds:
  world-uuid:
    spawns:
      - [ 0, 64, -100 ]
      - [ 1, 64, -101 ]

with spigots configuration api

[wet breach]

https://github.com/frostalf/ServerTutorial/blob/master/ServerTutorial/src/main/java/pw/hwk/tutorial/data/Caching.java#L32

like so

[trim quest]

There are too many unnecessary details, what I want is simpler.

[wet breach]

what is not simple in what I showed? it is just a for loop and I gather up all the stuff I want in that loop and create my objects or pass the data along

[trim quest]

max 5 line of code could solve my problem

[wet breach]

since you are having problems with multi-dimensional arrays here is a link that will show you how to make them and access them

https://www.baeldung.com/java-multi-dimensional-arraylist

[trim quest]

no thanks

[wet breach]

then I have no further reason to help 🙂

have fun I suppose

[young knoll]

Location is directly ConfigurationSerializable btw

You can just get/set a List<Location> to the config

[wet breach]

its Not Marven

[trim quest]

didnt you observe my code

What is the main purpose of posting this tutorial because I don't see any problems with my code that are related to anything in this tutorial.

[trim quest]

besides this is also not related to my question.

[wet breach]

you asked how I would do it, not that it be relevant to you

I showed you how I would fetch data from a yaml file, which that code does indeed do

at present it seems you are having issues in creating/accessing multi-dimensional arrays

thus why I sent a tutorial on them which is related to your issue

[trim quest]

my issue is related to Configuration api

not arrays

[wet breach]

i dont understand that how can i fetch spawns as a List<List<Object>> or List<List<Integer>> Verbatim what you said

[trim quest]

from Configuration api *

[wet breach]

the things you said you had an issue with, are multi-dimensional arrays

[trim quest]

bro i even know Concurrent & Syncrhonized Collections.

[wet breach]

and that proves what?

[trim quest]

i have problem with spigot apis features mostly.

not the java basics

[trim quest]

my knowledge on Collection framework

[wet breach]

so then you should know how to create and access multi-dimensional arrays then?

[trim quest]

yes

[wet breach]

then you would know you couldn't just simply cast the way you were right?

well I suppose you could, but it would present some issues lol

also casting is not the same as creating either

[trim quest]

It sounds like you're writing just for ego masturbation, and you're not being helpful.

[trim quest]

ok i solved

worlds:
  world-uuid:
    spawns:
    - - 0
      - 64
      - -100
    - - 1
      - 64
      - -101
  c4c74322-3d45-478f-9393-91a69af16286:
    spawns:
    - - 18
      - 89
      - 64

[young vine]

avg frostalf encounter

[echo basalt]

holy shit you're the GOAT

[echo basalt]

frostalf mentioning his 10yo code yup classic

code is ass btw you shouldn't use it as an example

[echo basalt]

that's even worse

I'd just do it manually tbf

ConfigurationSection worldsSection = getConfig().getConfigurationSection("worlds");

for (String key : worldSection.getKeys(false)) {
  UUID worldId = UUID.fromString(key);
  ConfigurationSection worldSection = worldsSection.getConfigurationSection(key);

  List<String> encodedSpawns = worldsSection.getStringList("spawns");

  // eh streams sure ok
  World world = Bukkit.getWorld(worldId);
  List<Location> locations = encodedSpawns.stream().map(this::parseVector).map(vector -> vector.toLocation(world)).toList();

  ...
}

[thorn isle]

This isn't really bukkit config api's fault, deeply nested generic types are a nontrivial matter in serialization

We can't really have typed getListOfListOfListOfInts() in the api to an arbitrary depth

You'd have to start fucking with like gson style type tokens

And that honestly goes well beyond what the config api is supposed to be

The expectation is that you can always grab it raw as a Map<String, Object> and do whatever parsing/casting you need to do

[misty ingot]

PacketContainer packet = new PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.WINDOW_ITEMS);
packet.getIntegers().write(0, 0); // Window ID 0 pour l'inventaire du joueur
packet.getItemListModifier().write(0, Arrays.asList(items));

// Envoyer le paquet au joueur
ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().sendServerPacket(player, packet);

i am sending fake items to the inventory of a player, items is an ItemStack[]
slots 9-35 are working fine and putting items inside the inventory but i also want to put some items in the hotbar (slot 0-8), i do everything correctly but the items in the hotbar never show up and i dont get any errors

[wet breach]

except it works

your example literally is what my code does basically.

[echo basalt]

yeah but it's properly styled and looks readable

Just because they achieve the same result doesn't mean they're as good of an example

[wet breach]

its styled properly o.O

[echo basalt]

post it on #1100941063058894868 and see what happens

[wet breach]

just because someone has a differing opinion doesn't mean it is not styled properly

it follows conventions last I checked. As for readability, sure I probably could have spaced the lines apart

[echo basalt]

not falling for the ragebait

[wet breach]

its not rage bait you said it was not styled properly

never clarified what wasn't all I said is that it follows conventions 🙂

Anyways if the only two issues is that though, then functionality wise what I had given them was correct as it works.

therefore it is an acceptable example since they did ask me how I would do it

seems they were happy with what you given them though, so a non-issue at this point lol

[slender elbow]

if writing dogshit code that functionally works means I can throw it as a tutorial example …

[grand flint]

yeah after years of making the best projects

u realise nobody ever gave a shit

[wet breach]

except it achieves the same results as what illusion gave and operates the same

so....not sure what you mean by this

[grand flint]

now i just write, safe and runnable code

and i get players for it 💃

[misty ingot]

.

[slender elbow]

that's exactly my point

[wet breach]

oh

[slender elbow]

I'm not saying it is dogshit, although it could do a little cleanup, we are all guilty of unreadable code, but that there's definitely more value to a presentable example

[orchid brook]

Hi What is the best way to get the position of the fishing bobber when a player throws their fishing rod?

[sly topaz]

try using window id -2

[orchid brook]

Actualy im listening to the PlayerFishEvent with event.getHook().getLocation(); but by doing this i need to wait a BITE.

[sly topaz]

but I am curious, what are you using fake items for?

[sly topaz]

you can check the EntitySpawnEvent if it is a FishHook and get the location there

though I was under the impression the fish event also triggered when the player just threw the fish hook into the water and not only when a fish bites

[orchid brook]

Do I need to add a short delay after the player casts the fishing rod to wait for the bobber to land in the water?

because i want the location of the bobber when he land in the water

[sly topaz]

why do you not just check whether the PlayerFishEvent's state is FISHING, that should be exactly when the hook is in the water

[orchid brook]

Im gonna check

[fresh timber]

I tried the depricated version, it has the same issue, still hides tab players

[wet breach]

well that is nice to know it removes them from tablist, not that it helps with your issue though =/

[fresh timber]

yea it makes it worse lol

(well I mean it would have fixed it if it worked)

[wet breach]

if only you needed this in the past

because in the past it didn't remove players from the tablist XD

would using the scoreboard method achieve what you are wanting? Not even entirely sure if it removes you from tablist either

[pure dagger]

.equals or == with Player?

[wet breach]

as in Player object?

[pure dagger]

yeah what else?

[sly topaz]

equals, though I would rather check if the uuid is equals

[pure dagger]

oh okay

[echo basalt]

== is the technically safe approach

.equals will work

ideally yeah compare uuids

if .equals passes and == fails you have a memory leak

[wet breach]

==
Compares if two references point to the same memory location.
    
.equals()
Compares the content of objects.

[sly topaz]

ah, CraftPlayer's equals checks for UUID equality anyway

well, it checks for uuid and network id, I wonder why

[echo basalt]

uh

npcs?

[fresh timber]

What do you mean?

[echo basalt]

would be incredibly cursed

[sly topaz]

NPCs aren't CraftPlayers though, they're just nms.ServerPlayer if they implement it that way

but could be, who knows. Maybe it is a leftover from ancient times

[misty ingot]

i tried searching but couldnt find which window id corresponds to what part?
the documentation for protocollib is surprisingly shit

[sly topaz]

ProtocolLib will only have information on how to listen and modify packets, aka the networking part but doesn't have much information on the protocol iteself

for documentation on the protocol, you should check the minecraft wiki. In your case specifically the Set Container Content packet documentation

to know which name corresponds to which packets in the wiki, you should check the PacketType definition

[fresh timber]

I found a bukkit post I think may work, just have to install paperweight so I can use craftbukkit stuff https://bukkit.org/threads/hide-player-without-hiding-from-tablist.229186/

[wet breach]

well, hopefully it works for you

[wet breach]

you put everyone on their own team and using scoreboard api you can hide players who are not on the same team

[echo basalt]

CraftPlayer is just a wrapper for ServerPlayer

every entity has its craftwrapper

that gets lazily initialized when calling .getBukkitEntity or whatever

[sly topaz]

I am aware, however what I am saying is that npcs that touch internals are normally do not extend the craft impl but their NMS derivatives, since as you say they're just wrappers anyway

even if they do, I imagine it'd end up falling as a CraftEntityHuman or NPC

[misty ingot]

window id -2 made it so now none of the items are appearing

// Créer le paquet WINDOW_ITEMS
        PacketContainer packet = new PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.WINDOW_ITEMS);
        packet.getIntegers().write(0, -2); // Window ID 0 pour l'inventaire du joueur
        packet.getItemListModifier().write(0, Arrays.asList(items));

        // Envoyer le paquet au joueur
        ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager().sendServerPacket(player, packet);

[sly topaz]

my bad, I got it confused with the information on the set container slot packet which uses the window ID -2 for any slot in the player inventory

window id 0 should work for the player inventory in the set content packet, however are you pointing to the right slots? Hotbar slots should be from 36 to 44

[misty ingot]

yeah i just figured that out

its fixed now

[orchid brook]

Soo noo

This is fired when we right click with the fishing rod

[sly topaz]

ah so same as entity spawn event then

[orchid brook]

yep

so i should add a delay

[sly topaz]

if you're using paper, you could take advantage of the FishHookStateChangeEvent or whatever it was called

if you are not, then I'd just put a while loop or repeating task in the event that checks for the FishHook state until it is BOBBING or whatever it is when it is in water

[orchid brook]

Witch fishHook state should i use so ?

[buoyant viper]

damn, theres no native fish event in spigor?

[sly topaz]

there is a fish event, there is no FishHookStateChangeEvent

[sly topaz]

check the javadoc for them

[buoyant viper]

damn

PR time

[regal cairn]

yo we need a minecraft dev for our server , mic included and youll will get something in return ,dm pls

[buoyant viper]

whats minecraft

[grand flint]

what do we get in return

ur love and friendship?

[sly topaz]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[regal cairn]

what you get in return is confidential i cant just say it on the discord we can negotiate about it dm me tho so i wont get banned

[worldly ice]

that doesn't sound suspicious at all

[regal cairn]

well im just the helper of the owner and i cant really make decisions

[grand flint]

so are u gonna stuff my ass or something wtf

"i cant just say it on discord"

my bad mr taliban

[young knoll]

It’s actually 10 tokens in my new cryptocurrency

It’s surely going to moon

[nova notch]

so why are u the one advertising then

[potent crescent]

This is obviously what you get in return lol

[vocal cloud]

[regal cairn]

nah we already got a developer that we paid for

myf though ill take full blame

[potent crescent]

u can tell me that u just blocked me

go away bro

[regal cairn]

well im in a rush and im sorry that it made you feel some type of why but im prolly not gon talk you so jus ended it you could have block me to

i wouldnt mind

[potent crescent]

really idc about that for all

lol

[young knoll]

Always good to hire people in a rush

[regal cairn]

exactly

[potent crescent]

all good

[austere cove]

does the bukkit scheduler guarantee tasks are executed in the order they were posted

[lilac dagger]

I think it's a linked map

But to be sure check the craftscheduler impl

[sullen marlin]

I dont think its guaranteed as in written into the API docs, but pretty sure that's how it works

[lilac dagger]

Yeah, If it's not documented the behavior can change at any time

Effective java talks about contracts and what they mean

[summer scroll]

Hey guys, is there any specific event that gets fired when Bukkit.dispatchCommand(Bukkit.getConsoleSender, ...) being called?
I've tried ServerCommandEvent and nothing comes up. This is how I debug it.

@EventHandler(ignoreCancelled = true)
public void onServerCommand(ServerCommandEvent event) {
  System.out.println("event.getCommand() = " + event.getCommand());
}

[sullen marlin]

What are you trying to do

[summer scroll]

Logging commands.

[sly topaz]

you would be better off listening to the chat packets for that, the dispatchCommand method seems to bypass minecraft internals (except for vanilla commands I guess, since there's a wrapper for them) so even if there was an event injected somewhere, it wouldn't be triggered

I wonder how it handles brigadier commands being registered directly, I guess whoever do this would also have to register them in Bukkit's SimpleCommandMap for it to stay in sync

[mortal vortex]

This might seem so novice, but I cant remember the last time I worked with placed blocks... ahem...
when doing #setType() on a bed, how do you prevent like half of it being left?

The result of performing setType(Material.PURPLE_BED), where a green bed once was.

[sly topaz]

does it set it correctly if you just update the block state or does it remain broken

[worldly ingot]

That's the default state. You have to retain the block data

[mortal vortex]

it breaks lol if i put a block where the head should be

oh

[sly topaz]

I would've expected setType to handle this type of thing tbh, given there is no setType for bisected blocks specifically

[mortal vortex]

Ja

[worldly ingot]

Bed oldBed = (Bed) block.getBlockData();
Bed newBed = (Bed) Material.PURPLE_BED.createBlockData();
oldBed.copyTo(newBed);
block.setBlockData(newBed);

[mortal vortex]

Choco you a skibidi

Thanks

[worldly ingot]

I can delete the snippet still

[mortal vortex]

What makes you think I'm not a pesky TOS violator with a message logging plugin?

[sly topaz]

I love how in the forums people choose to do this instead:

Block bedBlock = p.getLocation().getBlock();

bedBlock.setType(Material.RED_BED);
Bed bedData = (Bed) bedBlock.getBlockData();
bedData.setPart(Bed.Part.HEAD);
bedBlock.setBlockData(bedData);

Block footBedBlock = bedBlock.getRelative(bedData.getFacing().getOppositeFace());

footBedBlock.setType(Material.RED_BED);
Bed footBedData = (Bed) footBedBlock.getBlockData();
footBedData.setPart(Bed.Part.FOOT);
footBedBlock.setBlockData(footBedData);

[mortal vortex]

LOL

maybe old work around?

[worldly ingot]

Well that's if you were setting the bed in the world

You're just replacing a bed, right?

[mortal vortex]

Yeaa

[worldly ingot]

Then yeah you only need the simple part. But if you were setting the bed in the world, both parts, with no parts to replace, you would have to do that ^

Could probably simplify it a bit by pre-creating the block states, but yes, same principle

[mortal vortex]

I'm imagininginging this is the same principle if I wanted to replace a collection of 4 candles as well without overwriting them to 1?

[worldly ingot]

Yes

You could honestly generalize that a bit. You don't have to cast to Bed at all. In fact, I'm not entirely sure why I did lol

[mortal vortex]

ur a sigma das why

[worldly ingot]

private void replace(Block block, Material material) {
    BlockData oldState = block.getBlockData();
    BlockData newState = material.createBlockData();
    oldState.copyTo(newState);
    block.setBlockData(newState);
}

[mortal vortex]

🗣️

this guy knows whats up

[young knoll]

Man I wonder what genius added copyTo the API

[worldly ingot]

Yeah if only we knew

[sly topaz]

copyTo to the API*

runs

[young knoll]

I'll copy you to the API

[sly topaz]

I wonder if this is something that should be handled by setType tho, I doubt anyone wants the default behavior what it is right now

I guess it is too late to change it now

[worldly ingot]

If you wanted a really fancy way to do it, this would also work I believe:

private <T super BlockData> void replace(Block block, BlockType.Typed<T> type, Consumer<T> changer) {
    BlockData oldState = block.getBlockData();
    T newState = type.createBlockData();
    oldState.copyTo(newState);
    changer.accept(newState);
    block.setBlockData(newState);
}

(changer is optional, I just threw it in there for fun)

omg I'm going to typo every fucking message I send today, aren't I?

[sly topaz]

it happens

[young knoll]

he's using experimental API!

Get him

[worldly ingot]

They are internal types for the time being lol, and the snippet I sent earlier works totally fine. I'm just getting excited for fancy new APIs

[sly topaz]

they've been experimental for a while now, but they look solid to me

don't know what else is missing to just ship them as non-experimental

[worldly ingot]

Not even experimental. They're internal so Material can work better

They're internal because you can't really use them anywhere in the API

You still need a Material practically everywhere

[eternal night]

tl;dr presumably being, at some point Material just semi dies and is replaced by Block/ItemType. Instead of like, overloading every place that takes Material

[sly topaz]

just change every instance of Material in the API and then fix all plugins with Commodore 😎

[eternal night]

Yea pretty much

[buoyant viper]

the command library?

[sly topaz]

Commore is spigot's internal remapping tool

[buoyant viper]

dam

Set<String> EVIL LOL

[sly topaz]

haven't you heard of CraftEvil

[buoyant viper]

i like the RENAMES map whose first entry is a typo

[buoyant viper]

no i simply dont write legacy chode

id like to report inconsistent code by mixing Map.of and Map.ofEntries

ApiVersion.ABSTRACT_COW 😭😭😭

[mortal vortex]

Aligment 🙏

[acoustic galleon]

Does anyone have a multi-version inventory framework api?

[slender elbow]

what's wrong with the Inventory interface?

[acoustic galleon]

with an API it becomes easier

[grand flint]

W dev

this is how u become rich ong

[slender elbow]

what becomes easier?

the Inventory interface has been the same for the past 10+ years

[acoustic galleon]

more beautiful I say

[slender elbow]

just for GUIs?

[acoustic galleon]

yes

[slender elbow]

people seem to like triumph-gui, or IF

[acoustic galleon]

IF from devnatan?

[slender elbow]

no clue, from stef I think?

[acoustic galleon]

https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui this is 1.8-1.21?

[slender elbow]

idk I've never used it

try it out

[echo basalt]

main drawback with the blocktype api is that I don't recall having a Block#getBlockType method

[sly topaz]

ideally at some point Block#getType will just be changed to return BlockType

[misty ingot]

why isnt Block#getType just BlockType
every single time i use it i see Material as the return value and i have to recheck what i just typed

[trim quest]

if you mean menus i would recomment 7smile7's tutorial to implement your own. its uses bukkit so it runs on 1.8+.

[stray loom]

Hello

The GadgetsMenu plugin isn't working for me. What can I do?

[grand flint]

u can go to their support server or #help-server

[worldly ingot]

Yes because it's an internal type right now. That's the reason it's still marked as internal lol

[pure dagger]

how do i get player names, and get players by name when they offline

[alpine solar]

There was a depricated method iirc

Server#getOfflinePlayer() or smth

[grand flint]

yeah

Server#getOfflinePlayer(String)

you can use name or uuid pretty sure

and u can do OfflinePlayer#hasPlayedBefore

[pure dagger]

should i use it if its deprecated?

[alpine solar]

nop

[pure dagger]

so...?

[alpine solar]

just use hasPlayedBefore and getName

[pure dagger]

oh okay

[alpine solar]

@grand flint that'll work right?

wait holdon

[pure dagger]

???

[alpine solar]

nvm

[pure dagger]

so

[alpine solar]

I was thinking

it should work

[orchid brook]

Hello im using buildtool to build 1.20.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT. All work i can see the folder 1.20.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT in my maven repository folder local.

But when i do

<dependency>
    <groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
    <artifactId>spigot</artifactId>
    <version>1.20.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
    <scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>

He can't find it and that doesn't work is anyone have an idear ?

[alpine solar]

OH wait

dont you need mappings for this?

[pure dagger]

and can i get offline player by string ?

if ishouldnt use deprecated

[orchid brook]

Idk i just download a plugin source code and i see that i need 1.20.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT
so i just run java -jar BuildTools.jar --rev 1.20.3 but i still can't compile it

[alpine solar]

?mappings

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.dev/

[alpine solar]

I believe so 🤔

[pure dagger]

other plugins do that

[grand flint]

yeah if they played before

why does he need to get the name

if he is getting the player by name

💀

[grand flint]

they are both deprecated

[grand flint]

its litearlly what i sent

[pure dagger]

but its deprecated so should i use thta

[white crescent]

can anyone help me how to get gui moved to left?

[alpine solar]

I'm so rusty 😭

[pure dagger]

what does taht mean

[white crescent]

I need it to left

I think I need this but idk how to set it up https://github.com/AmberWat/NegativeSpaceFont/blob/master/README.md

[orchid brook]

?

[alpine solar]

I'm extremely rusty with bukkit

Dont believe whatever I say

[grand flint]

yeah there isnt any other way

[grand flint]

this isnmt a thibng