help-development

[rotund ravine]

Damn i am smart guessing that straight away huh

[kind hatch]

Apparently ItemFlag#HIDE_POTION_EFFECTS was removed/renamed/merged with ItemFlag#HIDE_ADDITIONAL_TOOLTIPS somewhere along the lines of the 1.20.4 - 1.20.5 releases. (Over a year ago)
As for the reason why, I have no idea. I wonder if that was intentional or not, but I guess things can be removed from the API after all.

It's much better now with more flag choices, but weird decision to remove old stuff with no replacement in the interim period.

[rotund ravine]

On spigot too?

[young knoll]

Yes

It's only a compile time break, spigot will handle old plugins with ASM

[trim quest]

anyone uses SPI for multi-module maven structure ?

i need serious help

i done most of the things

just dont know how to use special-source to configure it.

my project structure is easy, each NMS submodule(these are dependend to EranoAPI) have implementation, their abstractions are located in EranoAPI.
EranoAPI do not depend any NMS submodule, its fetching its implementation with SPI, and Dist project shading those dependencies.

[slender elbow]

how are you using the service loader to locate the provider? as in, the code that interacts with ServiceLoader

ah yeah, due to how spigot loads plugins, you need to specify the classloader, like ServiceLoader.load(MyService.class, plugin.getClassLoader())

[rotund ravine]

?blockpdc

[undone axle]

Learn about CustomBlockData here:
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-block-data-persistentdatacontainer-for-blocks.512422/

[trim quest]

I just changed but not sure i did correctly

dont want to inject my main here

ok

i found better way

[slender elbow]

the thing is that you can't use the server's classloader in there, plugins live in their own CL, separate from the server, and the lookup needs to happen on the plugin classloader, not the server's

[slender elbow]

looks good

[trim quest]

Today I was stupid and changed the JDK for a few modules in the editor.

now i dont know how to fix it

[chrome beacon]

huh why is it loading the 1.21 R4 on 1.10.2

[trim quest]

shade plugin

[chrome beacon]

yeah I understand why it's included but why is it being loaded

does it just loop all of them?

if that's the case you need to compile all of them with Java 8

[trim quest]

i set java 8 in EranoAPI-Parent pom.xml

but after that

i use this

[chrome beacon]

yeah that's fine just set the source/target/release of the maven compiler plugin

and tell it to compile to java 1.8

[trim quest]

i understand

[03:19:47 INFO]: === SPI DEBUG START ===
[03:19:47 INFO]: Looking for TPSHandlerFactory for version: 1.10.2
[03:19:47 INFO]: Available factories:
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R4.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_20_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_20_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_18_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_18_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false

[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_17_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_15_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_14_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_13_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_13_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_12_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: - Factory: me.erano.com.V1_11_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:19:47 INFO]:   Supports version '1.10.2': false
[03:19:47 INFO]: === SPI DEBUG END ===

[03:19:47 ERROR]: Error occurred while enabling EranoAPI v1.0 (Is it up to date?)
java.lang.RuntimeException: No TPSHandlerFactory found for version 1.10.2
        at me.erano.com.api.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryClassMapper.getTPSHandlerFactory(TPSHandlerFactoryClassMapper.java:57) ~[?:?]
        at me.erano.com.api.CorePlugin.onEnable(CorePlugin.java:23) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:292) ~[spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:337) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:405) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_10_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugin(CraftServer.java:373) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_10_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:323) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.t(MinecraftServer.java:412) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.l(MinecraftServer.java:377) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.a(MinecraftServer.java:332) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.DedicatedServer.init(DedicatedServer.java:271) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:535) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:834) [?:?]
[03:19:47 INFO]: Server permissions file permissions.yml is empty, ignoring it
[03:19:47 INFO]: Done (1,703s)! For help, type "help" or "?"
>pl
[03:20:06 INFO]: Plugins (1): EranoAPI

maybe regex stuff

im stupid

i guess now should work

still not working

[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R4.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_21_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_20_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_20_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_19_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_18_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_18_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_17_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R3.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_16_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_15_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_14_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_13_R2.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_13_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_12_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 INFO]: Loaded factory: me.erano.com.V1_11_R1.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryImpl
[03:29:38 ERROR]: Error occurred while enabling EranoAPI v1.0 (Is it up to date?)

>

java.lang.RuntimeException: No TPSHandlerFactory found for version 1.10.2
        at me.erano.com.api.performance.TPSHandlerFactoryClassMapper.getTPSHandlerFactory(TPSHandlerFactoryClassMapper.java:24) ~[?:?]
        at me.erano.com.api.CorePlugin.onEnable(CorePlugin.java:23) ~[?:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:292) ~[spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPluginLoader.enablePlugin(JavaPluginLoader.java:337) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:405) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_10_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugin(CraftServer.java:373) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_10_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:323) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.t(MinecraftServer.java:412) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.l(MinecraftServer.java:377) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.a(MinecraftServer.java:332) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.DedicatedServer.init(DedicatedServer.java:271) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at net.minecraft.server.v1_10_R1.MinecraftServer.run(MinecraftServer.java:535) [spigot-1.10.2.jar:git-Spigot-de459a2-e669d32]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:834) [?:?]
[03:29:38 INFO]: Server permissions file permissions.yml is empty, ignoring it
[03:29:38 INFO]: Done (1,771s)! For help, type "help" or "?"

will test in other versions

api-version should be 1.13 ?

[young knoll]

Yes

[trim quest]

but i support 1.10+

[young knoll]

There is no api version before 1.13

[slender elbow]

api-version didn't exist before 1.13, so the lowest it can be is 1.13

[young knoll]

So the server will just ignore it anyway

[slender elbow]

before that it did not matter

[trim quest]

hmm i guess its work for 1.17

i changed to 1.13 now its working

for 1.17

something wrong with the 1.10.2

[trim quest]

thank you so much

for classloader info

[young knoll]

It’s not even checking your 1.10 factory

Did you typo something

[trim quest]

its checking 1.10+

except 1.10

idk why

[trim quest]

look how stupid i am

[young knoll]

It’s always the typo

Happens to the best of us

[trim quest]

I really appreciate guys

for the support

[brazen badge]

hello, is there any way to hide the bossbar and leave only the text to make a persistent announcement? The bossbar of the various bosses must remain

[young knoll]

Texture back to remove a specific colour of bossbar and then use that

Or shaders that only target the top bossbar

[ebon nexus]

how can i add minimessage support to my plugin

[chrome beacon]

https://docs.advntr.dev/platform/bukkit.html

[buoyant viper]

chat, does this look like a violation of record design

[proven panther]

Your intellij has a rather peculiar design I must say...

[buoyant viper]

thats just how intellij looks???

[proven panther]

Why is it written Hannah

[buoyant viper]

thats the git commit author

inlay hints

[proven panther]

K

[buoyant viper]

have u never opened a project that is part of a git repo?

or well actually maybe u just turned off inlay hints idk

[proven panther]

No I only make things myself

[buoyant viper]

i mean so do i lol

but i use git for version control

[proven panther]

Mine is broken

[buoyant viper]

F

[proven panther]

💔

Idk how to even fix it so at that point I just gave up on it

[buoyant viper]

😭

but yeah idk this is just how my IJ looks lol

n then if i click on where it says Hannah it opens the git blame screen that shows like who last modified what line

not that its important for me but

[mortal vortex]

@buoyant viper vro i would not take ts

[wooden bay]

What theme is this

[buoyant viper]

default im pretty sure

[urban cloak]

Default

Yes

New UI, dark theme

[wooden bay]

I'm tripping

[urban cloak]

You sound like you havent updated intellij since its release

[wooden bay]

Probably

[urban cloak]

Im using the eap versions through toolbox and i love to see what they cook

Even if some of it doesnt make it into a release

[wooden bay]

I'm lazy

[urban cloak]

It even has an auto updater wdym xd

[wooden bay]

no idea

Oh

Toolbox

[young knoll]

Doesn’t it just have a built in updater too

[pliant topaz]

yea

but afaik it doesnt work with major versions sadly

[young knoll]

Ah

[fluid pond]

https://hastebin.nl/9IR2hH6 why this is happening?

error:

[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] 3
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Target method type: (Listener,int)boolean
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Adapted type: (Object[])boolean
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Spreader type: (Object[])boolean
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Expected invoked type: ()CallbackInvoker
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Sam method type: (Object[])boolean
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] method name: onConnectLowest123
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] Param count: 1
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] 5
[2025-06-28T12:36:04+0100] [Info] erro ta aq crlh
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: not a direct method handle
at java.lang.invoke.MethodHandleStatics.newIllegalArgumentException(MethodHandleStatics.java:139)
at java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles$Lookup.revealDirect(MethodHandles.java:1343)
at java.lang.invoke.AbstractValidatingLambdaMetafactory.<init>(AbstractValidatingLambdaMetafactory.java:131)
at java.lang.invoke.InnerClassLambdaMetafactory.<init>(InnerClassLambdaMetafactory.java:155)
at java.lang.invoke.LambdaMetafactory.metafactory(LambdaMetafactory.java:299)
at com.lleps.jsamp.ListenerInvoker.<init>(ListenerInvoker.java:56)
at com.lleps.jsamp.MainCallbackListener.registerAnnotatedListener(MainCallbackListener.java:76)
at com.osguri.main.Main.onInit(Main.java:22)
at com.lleps.jsamp.MainCallbackListener.OnGameModeInit(MainCallbackListener.java:110)

[onyx fjord]

how do we register enchantments these days?

[chrome beacon]

ideally with datapacks but plugins load too late for adding those with code

but reflection is still an option

[noble crown]

or you could use paper api for that

[wet breach]

how does that help with spigot?

[noble crown]

with spigot, it does not, but it's still an option to consider

[fluid pond]

?

[echo basalt]

wake up bae new gongas alt just dropped

@ivory sleet wanna do the honors?»

[smoky skiff]

I cant upgrade the wooden sword to iron, stone etc also tools (bw1058)

[grand flint]

what

[umbral ridge]

schwein

[smoky skiff]

Iam using bedwars1058 plugin i setuo everything

But

Icnt upgrade

[grand flint]

this plugin is for developers

#help-server

ask there

or in ur plugins discord server

[plush sluice]

does anyone know how i can return list of all enchantments for tabcompleter? without using any deprecated methods

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Registry.html#ENCHANTMENT
https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/registry/RegistryAware.html#getKeyOrNull()

[plush sluice]

found that but tbh i still dont know lol

[young knoll]

Easiest way would just be a simple loop

[twin venture]

hi so , iam back i guesss to programming ..

i was thinking about is thre something better in 2025 better than fawe / world edit?

[young knoll]

Loop over each enhancement and add the toString of its key to a list

[twin venture]

eaiser to handle , and faster to set blocks?

[young knoll]

No

FAWE is the best you’re gonna get for speed

[twin venture]

the thing is i don't want to use dependancy ..

[young knoll]

(And jankiness)

[twin venture]

i try not too ..

[young knoll]

I mean

You can set blocks yourself

[twin venture]

its a cage for skywars plugin so i dont really need the whole fawe api ..

or plugin

[young knoll]

A cage is just a hollow box

Easy enough to do with nested loops

Or the NBT structure system

[twin venture]

yeah but what about custom blocks? like for defult cage is glaass

[slender elbow]

what exactly is the question?

[twin venture]

is there better alterntiave to fawae , im trying to make a caage system for skywwrs ..

[slender elbow]

you can use the spigot API to set blocks, yes, it isn't the fastest.. far from it, but if you want speed, FAWE is as good as you're gonna get

[young knoll]

It’s a cage

They’re tiny, the speed isn’t going to matter

[slender elbow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

then just use the spigot api

to set blocks

[young knoll]

If you want to support fancy cages with intricate designs just use the NBT structure system

They’re not as compact as schematics but for a few cages it doesn’t matter

Also allows people to make custom cages pretty easily

Makes me wonder if I should use them, it would mean I don’t need any NMS but would also mean I use a bit more space

[twin venture]

cosmetics:
cages:
basic:
name: "&aBasic Cage"
price: 100
id: 1
rarity: COMMON
blocks:
top: GLASS
sides: LIGHT_BLUE_STAINED_GLASS
bottom: BLUE_STAINED_GLASS

obsidian_box:
  name: "&8Obsidian Box"
  price: 300
  id: 2
  rarity: RARE
  blocks:
    top: OBSIDIAN
    sides: OBSIDIAN
    bottom: BEDROCK

something like this i supose xd

easy fancy and editale

[young knoll]

Still somewhat limited

But yeah that works

[twin venture]

why its limited?

[young knoll]

What if I want my cage to have multiple blocks for the top

Or a trim made of stairs on the top

[silent slate]

Hey, setting my position in the tablist to 1 and another users position to 100 doesnt work. He still stays on top of me in the tablist.

I already checked that its defenitely setting those values

setPlayerListOrder() is what I am using

[thorn isle]

you can set the order manually now? back in my day we had to fuck with teams and invisible prefixes

[silent slate]

i guess

[slender elbow]

server version? client versions?

[silent slate]

paper 1.21.6, client: 1.21.1

[thorn isle]

i'm gonna throw a guess that the feature to sort them manually was added after 1.21.1 and so the client doesn't know about it

this is the other side of the "support everything since 1.8" coin

[slender elbow]

it was added in 1.21.2

additionally:

is sorted highest to lowest

so even if your client was up to date, someone with order 100 would show up above someone with order 1 because that's how it goes

[silent slate]

ok

i had it the other way around before, but it didnt work so i tried it lowest to highest

imma try it on 1.21.6

[lilac dagger]

i still do the teams to order

[slender elbow]

it just complicates things for no reason

[tacit inlet]

Hello, i use the adventure api with adventure-platform-bukkit as dependency, and i can't send action bar and title/subtitle : its not working, i don't know why, bossbars and chat messages works btw, and no error during compilation

adventure api is shaded in my .jar

if someone know about something ..

[sly topaz]

does it throw an error at runtime?

it is probably adventure just not supporting those in the bukkit-platform

[tacit inlet]

no error :/

its weird because bossbar and chat message (with Component) are working

i tested on spigot 1.21.6, paper 1.21.6 and folia 1.21.6, not working :/

[slender elbow]

adventure-platform is not updated to 1.21.6 afaik

there was some pr for it

[balmy valve]

why does Damageable#getMaxDamage throw an exception for items with the default max damage

For example, a golden pickaxe

If I have not expliclity set the max damage component to a non default value, it throws an exception saying it doesnt have max damage

but it does

[slender elbow]

because

ItemMeta

[thorn isle]

because you are calling it on the ItemMeta, while the default max damage is not stored in the meta, but in the item prototype

only if you override it for that particular item does it get stored on the item meta

[balmy valve]

the default max damage is stored in the components

[balmy valve]

item meta reads from components

[thorn isle]

in the components of the prototype, yes

[slender elbow]

fortunately ItemMeta a highly flexible system that is very similar to the system adopted by vanilla

[balmy valve]

which should be able to read from default components

[slender elbow]

ItemMeta works exclusively on the patch layer

not the resulting component map

stupid af

[balmy valve]

yeah why the hell

[slender elbow]

because

community feedback is overrated

[balmy valve]

Thats so unintuitive

and makes it overall less useful

[thorn isle]

if you're on paper, you can probably use their component api to get it; i don't remember if it also only works on the patch and ignores the prototype, though

i mostly use nms for item properties these days

[balmy valve]

their component api works

but that works off of itemstack

not item meta

[thorn isle]

my personal recommendation is for you to abandon itemmeta altogether

it sucked before and it sucks even harder now and i doubt it'll ever get any better

[slender elbow]

at what point do you have an IM without an IS anyway

[balmy valve]

when im working with a plugin that I didnt make that does that a lot

[slender elbow]

🫡

[thorn isle]

i suppose the patch-prototype principle still kind of applies here, though i don't remember if spigot or even paper have a way to get the default properties of the prototype from e.g. material

[balmy valve]

they do

[thorn isle]

i.e. itemmeta represents the patch and material/itemtype/whatever the prototype

then you can just toss a ternary at it

[balmy valve]

and if I dont have the itemstack

[thorn isle]

then you have to rewrite things to have the itemstack, or pass Material as well

[balmy valve]

🤦‍♂️ ** **

[balmy valve]

^

[thorn isle]

again i kind of recommend abandoning itemmeta altogether

[sly topaz]

why

[eternal night]

"How do I get the non patch values while only having the patch representation without passing something that represents the archetype" is a useless question

[thorn isle]

i guess what he's asking is more like "why is it like this"

[balmy valve]

If itemmeta is pulling from components at all why isn't it pulling from the actual map, insteadof the changemap

[thorn isle]

it definitely is unintuitive for itemmeta to not have any way to get the prototype components

[sly topaz]

I don't know the exact reason, but I assume since ItemMeta is seen as a snapshot, the changemap would be the equivalent representation

[balmy valve]

How?

[thorn isle]

that said you could also argue that it's unintuitive for itemmeta to also include the prototype values, since e.g. an item inheriting the default max damage from its prototype isn't really item metadata as we're used to thinking about it in bukkit

[sly topaz]

as in, ItemMeta being just a carrier or changes rather than a snapshot of the ItemStack

though the way it is right now is kind of a mixed ball

[balmy valve]

I was gonna say

[thorn isle]

in the end the answer is that itemmeta is unintuitive

one way or another

[tacit inlet]

thank you!

[sly topaz]

when it comes to non-component items, it is a snapshot but when it comes to components it is a patch

[balmy valve]

I guess Id just disagree on this

[thorn isle]

that's how it's been treated in bukkit, so far

the itemmeta of an item with no "custom" changes made to it is empty

in that sense this current system is a fairly aligned continuation of what we had, which i guess is why it was implemented that way

[sly topaz]

I don't believe it is that bad of a decision, all things considered

[thorn isle]

unfortunately what we had was never good and is only getting farther apart from how things work under the hood

[balmy valve]

it overcomplicates using components

[sly topaz]

I assume md made it that way to simplify the implementation

[balmy valve]

how

[eternal night]

ItemMeta was not designed for components

it looks like this because it looked like this a decade ago

[slender elbow]

hear me out

FORTUNATELY

[thorn isle]

despair

[balmy valve]

anyways, Ill just cope, but this is really dumb lol

[sly topaz]

has paper's data components API been released? last time I looked at that channel it was just about trying out builder pattern on everything which was well, a decision

[thorn isle]

it's been out in some kind of form for quite a while, but it's marked as experimental so my entire plugin is always linted yellow

it's quite alright iirc

i mean i prefer nms because at this point the component api is just a very very thin wrapper over nms and most of my projects use nms anyway, so might as well

[eternal night]

Yea

data component in paper isn't really an API

it is just a 1 to 1 mapping of internals

[thorn isle]

but for bukkit api projects it's fine to use the components api too, it's tolerable

[sly topaz]

so the thing is just there for access, fair enough

[thorn isle]

the power/flexibility of nms without having to set up paper-userdev or remapping or whatever, basically

[sly topaz]

I don't dislike the idea, however it is a big jump from ItemMeta, given they more or less achieve the same things

[thorn isle]

and as such without any of the stability guarantees of the bukkit api, i.e. shit can and will change under you and md5 won't be around to bytecode bandaid it at runtime

but seeing how legacy materials and other horrid shit turned out, i consider this a pro and not a con

[sly topaz]

at the time I remember the discussions being at wanting to replace ItemMeta, but ig that's a long way ahead still

it isn't a bad abstraction, the implementation is just questionable given the tech debt it carries

[eternal night]

There are plans to replace ItemMeta but yea

[thorn isle]

it isn't even really tech debt at this point, it's more like "we can't break the 1.8 plugins" debt

[sly topaz]

we should've just adopted multi-release jars at the time

[thorn isle]

which i know is an exaggeration but the point is that changing the way how itemmeta works is going to break everything, and bukkit does try to keep a fairly stable api

[sly topaz]

dynamically loading code depending on the version was never a good pattern, but we all just feed into it

[young knoll]

Works better on a site like modrinth

That supports filtering downloads by version and whatnot

[sly topaz]

yeah, it is pretty nice when you click download and it asks what platform and version

nothing stopping people from putting a big red text at the top of the resource overview being like:

downloads for versions

[thorn isle]

NOT WORK ON 1.8

DEAD PLUGIN

[young knoll]

Yes hello I download latest version and it no work on 1.8???!?

[sly topaz]

I downloaded packetevents, but it says I need protocollib? Can you fix?

[young knoll]

It’s not like dynamically loading code based on version is that difficult

Just a little bit janky

[sly topaz]

it is increasingly difficult with the api-version shenanigans

and besides, it is just not a good pattern

[thorn isle]

i'll disagree with any sort of runtime transformations made to any classes on the principle that it makes it difficult to make educated decisions about the runtime at compile time

[young knoll]

Good code? In something adjacent to game development?

Impossible

[sly topaz]

I'll just convert to a datapack developer™

[thorn isle]

once upon a time i remember writing a shop plugin which would put items in empty inventory slots when buying things; later on in 1.13 i started getting reports about the plugin destroying tridents and other newly-added items

[sly topaz]

that's the only place I can exercise clean code

[thorn isle]

it turned out that itemstack::gettype was returning AIR for the trident, so the plugin considered the slot empty

[sly topaz]

imagine just how many valuable tridents you destroyed

[young knoll]

What’s wrong with Inventory#addItem

[thorn isle]

i think i wanted to make sure everything fits before adding any items

muh atomic shop transactions

[sly topaz]

I need acid in my life

I mean, ACID

[thorn isle]

i also vaguely remember having the same problem with block::gettype, with my rtp plugin teleporting people into solid 1.13+ blocks

because again, they were "air"

[sly topaz]

I assume it was the legacy material support being funny

[thorn isle]

most likely

[sly topaz]

I am really glad we're past supporting those versions, with the exception of 1.8

[young knoll]

See this is what happens when you can’t see into the future

[thorn isle]

i didn't really have the patience to debug it at length at the time, the first thing i tried was setting the api-version in plugin.yml to 1.13 and iirc it worked

[young knoll]

Should have added an api version to the plugin back when you made it

[sly topaz]

didn't it start existing in 1.13

am I missing the joke

[thorn isle]

i wish they had added some unobtanium material like UNKNOWN to the enum instead of returning a constant that already is associated with certain things like empty inventory/world space

[sly topaz]

why does discord make my life miserable, I want whatsapp stickers for free and not have to pay nitro

[young knoll]

#help-development message

[sly topaz]

I was indeed

[thorn isle]

the joke is that i wrote it in 1.12 and it immediately broke in 1.13 because of a system that was meant to add legacy compatibility with 1.12, in a way that was completely unforeseeable

[spare hazel]

why tf does it download everything from everywhee

[thorn isle]

that's just how it is

[gaunt tangle]

I'm looking for a developer to work on a new survival season. ( free )

[nova notch]

if you want free use chatgpt

[rotund ravine]

It tries to look everywhere obv

[civic oxide]

I can work for free, as long as you dedicate your server network to my name, and I want a giant 48×48×128 statue of me in your spawn.

[hybrid spoke]

etercraft will be dope

[thorn isle]

sounds like a good deal

[young knoll]

A giant player statue at spawn would go kinda hard

[thorn isle]

what's the maximum scale attribute value again? although building a physical statue might look better

off the top of my head i think it was 64, so that'd make the statue ~120 blocks tall

[young knoll]

It’s 16

[thorn isle]

lame

[nova notch]

you could just use a giant if that works

its close enough right

[hollow oxide]

hello, is there a way to detect critical hit?

I want to detect a critical hit in a

    @EventHandler
    public void onEntityDamage(EntityDamageEvent event) {
        if (!(event instanceof EntityDamageByEntityEvent edbee)) return;

        Entity damager = edbee.getDamager();
        if (!(damager instanceof LivingEntity livingDamager)) return;
        if (!event.iscritical()) return;

        //do stuff
    }

thx for any answers

[rotund ravine]

https://jd.papermc.io/paper/1.21.6/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityDamageByEntityEvent.html#isCritical()

Criticals are between entities

[hollow oxide]

it's for arrows right?

ok no i get it

thx

but my IDE don't somehow did i do something wrong?

ok I know, it's because i'm in 1.21.1 and it's not there

[rotund ravine]

eip

Also didn't see this was spgito woop

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/check-if-hit-is-critical.358496/

guess u gotta hack a bit on spigot

[floral aspen]

Hey, I've been working on a plugin to clear ground items every 5 minutes and using println in my IDE it seems to be working exactly as intended, however absolutely nothing is happening on my server. I know the plugin is getting loaded due to the server console showing "Plugin Activated" However absolutely nothing is happening from there. Is this an issue with my code or likely something else? For reference I am sheduling a timer every second clearTimer.scheduleAtFixedRate(clearitems, 0, 1000); and checking the countdown inside to remove items at 5 minutes ```TimerTask clearitems = new TimerTask() {
int countdown=300;
public void run() {

    if (countdown>0) {
        countdown--;
        System.out.println(countdown);
        }
    else{
            countdown=300;
            World w = Bukkit.getServer().getWorld("world");
             for(Entity e: w.getEntities()) {
                if(e instanceof Item) {
                    e.remove();
                    System.out.println("REMOVED ENTITIES");
                    Bukkit.broadcastMessage(ChatColor.RED+""+ChatColor.BOLD + "ITEMS CLEARED");    }}}```

[sly topaz]

can't you infer that from the damage source? seems like no

[sly topaz]

where in your code are you instantiating this

also, I got to ask, is this some form of lag prevention mechanism? Because clearing items doesn't really help with lag

[floral aspen]

public static void main(String[] args)

[sly topaz]

spigot already has an item expiration feature, you can configure it in the spigot.yml iirc

[floral aspen]

It's intended to be, however this is also my first time making a plugin for Minecraft so it's for learning purposes too.

[sly topaz]

plugins aren't standalone programs, you have to make your main class extend JavaPlugin and execute it inside onEnable instead of main(args), which is for standalone execution

[floral aspen]

Oh! I had no idea, guess I dove a bit too deep for my first project lol. Thank you btw 😃

[chrome beacon]

Also the game already handles item despawning. Adding another timer won't really help performance

[robust helm]

sooo how do i assign an object to an ItemStack for the lifetime of the ItemStack instance?
Current approach is a Map<String, ItemData> where the key is a uuid stored in both the ItemData and the itemstack's PDC, but now I need a unregister() method which I is hard to call at all the events

I kinda need a Map<WeakReference<ItemStack>, ItemData> where i can implement the get() logic myself, so that it compares the uuids

or does WeakReference even work like that?

[mortal vortex]

No, it holds a weak reference to the actual object, but you can't customize the equality comparison.

Make an ItemStack Wrapper

[robust helm]

i meant that it deletes the value of the hashmap when weakreference is collected

[robust helm]

i can just extend ItemStack right?

[young knoll]

No

[robust helm]

why not?

uhh wait

im only using it to create items with actions bound to it, like an item that runs a command on right click

so im the one calling new ItemStack

public abstract class AbstractItem extends ItemStack implements Item {

    @NotNull
    protected abstract ItemStack getItemStack();

    @Getter
    private final String uid = UUID.randomUUID().toString();

    @Override
    public ItemStack newUniqueStack() {
        ItemStack item = getItemStack();
        ItemUidHelper.setUid(item, this.getUid());
        return item;
    }

    public void onRightClick(ClickContext ctx) {
    }
}

basically

[young knoll]

You could just store the entire command in the pdc

[robust helm]

yea but i need it to be more flexible

and i also want to save state

[young knoll]

Anyway, you’ll never get your custom Itemstack back when doing stuff like Inventory#getItem

[robust helm]

what if i just have a registry with all AbstractItems, then find the matching in interact event

or just compare using the id stored in a PDC, then cast

[young knoll]

The cast will fail

[sullen marlin]

Pretty sure PDC is the right option here

You gotta put it all in PDC

[young knoll]

For custom items I just save a key in the pdc that I map to whatever I need

If I just wanted to store a command in them I would just put it all in pdc though

[robust helm]

pdcs are kinda annoying

with the boilerplate

[young knoll]

Then make a wrapper for it

[robust helm]

a wrapper for pdcs?

[robust helm]

well yea, thats what im trying ig

[young knoll]

Yeah something like

PDCWrapper wrapper = new PDCWrapper(meta.getPersistentDataContainer)

String myString = wrapper.getString(namespacedKey)

[robust helm]

@Getter
public class GunImpl extends AbstractItem implements Gun {

    private final String name;
    private final int customModelData;
    private final Gun.Stats stats;
    private final ReloadMechanic reloadMechanic;
    private final ShootMechanic shootMechanic;
    private final DamageModel damageModel;
    private final BulletHitHandler bulletHitHandler;
    private final BulletTracer bulletTracer;
    private final SoundDesign soundDesign;
    private final SpreadModel spreadModel;

    private final ItemStack itemStack;
    private int ammo;

yeah.. this is gonna be fun

maybe i just stick to calling unregister(), but then just unregister everything on map change or sth

[young knoll]

Just store a key in the item

And map that to a gun via some kind of registry

[robust helm]

so how do i delete my mapped object when the item is collected then?

[young knoll]

You don’t

Every unique gun has a registry entry

Just like how every unique minecraft item has a registry entry

[echo basalt]

eh

[robust helm]

so i use one Gun instance for all the items?

[young knoll]

Alternatively you can store various stats about the gun in the pdc itself

[echo basalt]

at work we just do items with this crazy ass attribute system

at least most of them

[robust helm]

what attribute system=

[echo basalt]

one I wrote :)

prolly like 5-10k lines of code by itself

[robust helm]

is it foss?

or usable for spigot even?

[echo basalt]

nop

[robust helm]

naww

[young knoll]

More like loss

[echo basalt]

😔

[young knoll]

I’d just make a custom pdc type that handles converting everything you need

[echo basalt]

jokes on me most of the logic links to entities anyways

[robust helm]

string pdc type wrapper using gson maybe :)

[young knoll]

Pull the raw stats directly from the item, and lookup things like SpreadModel from a registry

[echo basalt]

ew

just write codecs

[robust helm]

gson is automatic

im not getting paid by hour

[echo basalt]

lame

I'm semi I stay automatic

[young knoll]

Developers when they have to write actual code

[echo basalt]

money add then multiply

[robust helm]

doesnt sound too bad but i feel like the code would be spreaded out a lot then

[echo basalt]

you don't want tightly coupled code

[young knoll]

I mean most of it would just be in the custom type

[echo basalt]

^^ aka your codec

[robust helm]

well for registering

[echo basalt]

making a codec also allows you to have uh

data versions and stuff

you can update the config and the item magically updates

[robust helm]

config?

i like hardcoding my stuff

[echo basalt]

yeah I dunno why I'm trying to suggest

[robust helm]

is there any real issue to this?

[echo basalt]

clearly ignorant dev just tryna get paid and move on

[young knoll]

I do enjoy being able to just assign fields to config values

[echo basalt]

I'm thinking

✨ components ✨

You'd have a "gun template" which defines basically its model, particles, color, max ammo

And then you'd have like an "ammo component" which defines how much ammo the weapon has

[robust helm]

and where do i store the ammo component?

[echo basalt]

PDC

[robust helm]

its always pdc 😔

[echo basalt]

Load and save from PDC, your in-memory stuff is basically just configurable values

better than tracking items by hand

[young knoll]

Back in my day!

[echo basalt]

NBTAPI 🤮

[robust helm]

maybe i do that or whatever I think you meant by that

[young knoll]

Depends how much variance you expect to have

[robust helm]

okay yea that might just be this then

[young knoll]

Are there going to be 20 unique guns or 100000

[robust helm]

maybe 20 different guns

and many instances

[echo basalt]

by doing it with components you can add extra components specific to each gun

For example I had a flamethrower back in the day that had its own start, idle and stop sound

and that had to be tracked per gun because 2 ppl could use flamethrowers independently

You can also go wild with ammo and generic types, we had a grenade launcher where it shot a fuse

or a shotgun where it shot pellets

[young knoll]

What is this tf2

[echo basalt]

black ops 1

[young knoll]

Ah

So no jars of throwable piss

[echo basalt]

I don't share that kink

[young knoll]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZDwZbyDus&pp=ygUPbWVldCB0aGUgc25pcGVy

It’s not a kink he just spends a lot of time waiting

-# Or maybe it’s a kink

[robust helm]

wait when i do the pdc thing, do i make the setter like
void setAmmo(ItemStack itemStack, int ammo)?

[echo basalt]

Eh I'd split it into its own class but realistically

you just edit the meta yeah

[young knoll]

I would pass meta at least

[robust helm]

so gun is completely immutable?

[young knoll]

So you don’t keep cloning it

[robust helm]

i see

woah its actually pretty doable

cuz i always have an itemstack instance where i need it

thanks guys and gn <3

[sly topaz]

for the record, you could've just used a WeakHashMap<ItemStack, GunData>, but if the PDC thing works for you then better

ig it'd get collected before the item stops existing in the word, since item stack instances are not persistent

doing it all in the PDC is kind of annoying if you have to extrapolate the data for anything, since it requires the data being loaded into the word and having access to that inventory somehow

[mortal vortex]

Anyone know if Java can read PIDs from COM ports?

[sly topaz]

use JavDoesUSB library

it uses FFMI so it is pretty modern

[wet breach]

https://github.com/nyholku/purejavacomm

[mortal vortex]

vow sexy

[wet breach]

technically there is no native solution in java which is fine, it really isn't that much less efficient to use JNI/JNA which is what anything you find lib wise will do

Sun microsystems did at one point had some kind of plan to bring native serial port into java, but it died. One day we might have it

[spare hazel]

if(event.getPlayer().getWorld().equals(SkyMine.getPlugin().getServer().getWorlds().get(0))) return;

is this a good way to distinguish the default world from the other worlds?

[hybrid spoke]

isn't the default world always "world"? and if not, isn't there a way to get the default world by the config of the server f.e.?

otherwise (based on the first google result) your way of doing it seems to be the correct way

[spare hazel]

so i should check by the world name?

[drowsy helm]

Pretty sure 0th index is always main world

[hybrid spoke]

i was just brainstorming loudly

[drowsy helm]

Also please use variables that code is an eyesore

[spare hazel]

alright

idk if its gonna flop or become a hit so im just tryna get it out asap, i will clean it later

[wet breach]

the name of the world can be changed

hence why comparing with strings is usually not the best

[hybrid spoke]

ah right

seems like i was inactive for too long in the spigot context

[short pilot]

For configs, what's the difference between creating the config using code, line by line, vs having the config.yml existing in the resources folder?

The latter just seems more convenient for me, and then reading values from there on startup/reload

[chrome beacon]

Personal preference

[flint coyote]

Line by line saves you the effort to diff the config once you add new entries to an existing config.
But there's libs that do exactly that for you for the resources folder approach as well

[short pilot]

Is there any event for when a happy ghast gets tamed/a harness equipped?

i've been coding a custom plugin for them

[short pilot]

wdym by diff the config?

[flint coyote]

Well if the plugin was already loaded on a server, the config was copied from that plugin version. If you then change the resources/config.yml and update the plugin, it won't be copied again. So if you want to add the new entries, you'll have to find the changes between the two versions and add them programatically

Or you encourage the server owners to add them manually ofc

[lilac dagger]

do item frames always spawn opposite the wall ?

[short pilot]

oh fr???

i see

id never want the user to have to manually add; ill do a diff check

actually

wait yes the first option seems a lot more sensible now; youd never have to do a diff check ty for this knowledge

[hybrid spoke]

https://github.com/bsommerfeld/jshepherd handles that pretty well with built in auto-migration

ah should probably ping @short pilot for this

not quite the resources/ approach, but it gets close

[worn plinth]

Hello i used ClientboundContainerSetSlotPacket on versions below 1.21.3 with random stateId like 999999 to send fake item to player (this item need to be fake, only to display as a cosmetic) and everything works, but when i tried to make it on 1.21.3 this item isn't appear in player's inventory, also console nothing throws, so maybe anyone know what can cause this problem.

[chrome beacon]

I wouldn't recommend using a random stateId

as that's used by the server and client to validate stuff

[worn plinth]

i also tried to use real stateId from player.containerMenu but still dont work

[chrome beacon]

Could you show us how you're sending the packet

[worn plinth]

okay that was insanely simple to solve, before i resigned from using SendEquipment packet because it was producing wear sound effect which i can't disable, now on this version it doesn't produce this sound effect.

[robust helm]

it would probably break when any field is changed right? like when the item looses durability

[robust helm]

or I use a WeakIdentityMap<ItemStack, GunData>?

[lilac dagger]

there's a weak identity map?

[worthy yarrow]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerInteractEntityEvent.html check the item held and the entity type

[mortal hare]

how much of your plugin's code do you guys unit test?

[pseudo hazel]

10%

I wrote a configuration thingy lately that I had written a few tests for

probably not really unit tests

but everything else just either works in full or is bugged and gets fixed

no point in unit testing when my unit is the plugin itself

[ivory sleet]

67%

coverage of public methods

[fickle spindle]

hello i'm developing a game mode based on 2 worlds so i'm thinking about handling 2 diff chat for the game and one for the lobby. I want to make the join message only for the lobby players so i trough to do a for looping all the players in a world for send the message to them there is a more optimised way?
another stuff that i trough about is a list with all the players that updates when someone join / leave the world lobby thanks for your help

[mortal hare]

i personally never mock bukkit api calls, and instead externalize most of the logic outside bukkit api's scope so that i can properly unit test without touching minecraft related objects and types

[lilac dagger]

i don't use unit tests tho i wanted to at some point

[mortal hare]

i do believe unit tests first off all test how much your code is modularized but at the same introduces bloat that you might not need in a first place (testing is good, i just dont like how code needs to be structured differently and in more bloated way to support it)

so its double edge sword for me

[lilac dagger]

i agree

[mortal hare]

i wonder though how do people in ts/js languages unit test their code

like how can you mock a function that's inside another function

if you dont mock it its not unit test if its from another module?

[robust helm]

not without external dependencies

[echo basalt]

I don't unit test

unit testing means I'm doubting my own abilities

[sly topaz]

this is also what I do for the most part

it just makes life easier to be able to unit-test your logic. When it comes to something that depends on game behavior however I do not add mock tests for them, at that point it just feels pointless given the game can change at any rate

[rough drift]

I don't evne test, straight to prod it goes

[thorn isle]

this is how it is implemented internally; each world maintains a list of players that they're added to when they enter that world and removed from when they leave it

[buoyant viper]

real!

all or nothing baby

[ivory sleet]

Yea, I do think though, there is a certain value in unit testing by “mocking” Bukkit objects, especially if you try to prove why your implementation doesn’t work incorrectly (double negation in a non exhaustive logical reasoning), since mock bukkit not only mocks ur objects, but also emulates certain events and invariants etc

And to some extent unit testing itself isn’t about testing literally every function, although naively speaking one may find themselves believing in that approach

[sly topaz]

100% coverage or no coverage is the way, I won't hear anything else!!!

[ivory sleet]

[mint nova]

Permissions added to player with PermissionAttachment are pernament?

[young knoll]

No

Lost on restart

[ornate patio]

is there an event for when a player shoots an arrow that lets me access the both the arrow entity and the shooter

and how do i get the owner from an AbstractArrow

im trying to write a plugin that undos the random change in 1.21.6 that removes ownership of an arrow when its owner logs off

[ornate patio]

nvm just found getShooter

[tender shard]

https://pastebin.com/AtNL7LnQ roast my proxmox-backup-client deployment bash script

[mortal vortex]

Do a root check on startup:

if [[ $EUID -ne 0 ]]; then
   ... < some output idk
   exit 1
fi

Also you should use -r with read

To prevent escape characters being consnumed

[tender shard]

not needed

nobody besides root will ever be ablt to execute that anyway

and even if, it would just fail to do something and then exit because -e

I hate rust

one of my coworkers wrote some shit in rust and now I have to maintain it and I don't know rust and everything looks like this
&&self
<-- &self

trait trait &self whatever

if rust would support actual OOP (inhertiance or at least c++'s virtual funcs etc) it'd be great. Where's Rust++?

[mortal vortex]

Rust just feels elitist at the very core.

How source code is lexxed equates to nothing in terms of runtime performance.

There is no valid reason for the syntax to be so shit

[sly topaz]

Eh, the issue with Rust for anyone coming from higher level languages is the fact that it feels high-level but actually isn't. Once one starts approaching it with mindfulness of what low-level primitives it tries to expose with all those symbols on its syntax, it isn't as bad as one's first impression might have started as

And I personally hate saying arguments which imply "someone's holding it wrong", but the case applies here. It is a language with a bunch of powerful features inherited from ML-family of languages, so it takes more getting used to than anybody jumping on a Rust project they've been dumped on has been prepared for

[ivory sleet]

i mean yea and its eco system isn't as developed- merely imo though (which is another noticeable issue itself)

[mint nova]

So where i can storage it

Sorry for late response but i was sleeping

[hybrid spoke]

in a file, in a db or (not adviced) in PDC

[vast ledge]

Save it in a DB and load it in startup or smth

[echo basalt]

don't load it in startup you're breaking the entire concept of a database

basically becomes a slow memory leak

just read whenever, cache it for a bit, save again

use futures

[thorn isle]

i remember someone here saying that there was an easy way in nms somewhere to get the i18n translated tooltip of an item? like with all the attribute modifier lines and such, without having to build it yourself

anybody have any recollection of where that is

[slender elbow]

n.m.w.i.ItemStack#getDisplayName() ?

[mint nova]

so like create a file for all the players (when they join), or just one file?

[mint nova]

PDC?

PersistantDataContainer or smth like that?

[mint nova]

im not that advanced

[slender elbow]

yet

one day you'll have to do that, there is no saying when

[mint nova]

you're right

[left jay]

hey so jitpack can't find my NMLAttributes github repo, even though i have it set to public. am i doing something wrong with my pom here?

[chrome beacon]

You have the output directory set

that's also the wrong way of setting the output directory

Refer to this https://blog.jeff-media.com/how-to-make-maven-automatically-put-your-plugins-jar-into-your-test-servers-plugins-folder/

[left jay]

oh thanks

[thorn isle]

this creates a component with a hover event holding the item data, but it looks like the data is parsed on the client into text, and there doesn't seem to be a way to get it on the serverside

i specifically need the actual text it would render into, to put it on a text display entity

found it i think ItemStack::getTooltipLines

kind of looks like this might be used only on the client side

only usage i see in the server is it being exposed under bukkit Unsafe, which is quite nice; no nms needed for this after all

well, on paper

[echo basalt]

I just spent 6 hours debugging race conditions

turns out I was listening to PlayerJoinEvent on my quit listener

[sly topaz]

If you’re gonna do it on paper then they got an API method for it

[hardy sundial]

anyone know a good Command library for 1.8 that supports async and annotations

[sly topaz]

ItemStack#computeTooltipLines or whatever it was called

[sly topaz]

What does support asynchrony mean

[cedar silo]

Pls help me to copilition one plugin

[hardy sundial]

command run asynchronously so i can do stuff like database actions inside the command

[sly topaz]

The command won’t run asynchronously, but you can just spin a (virtual) thread for whatever you might need it

Though if you’re on 1.8, then you’re probably on java 8 as well. In which case BukkitScheduler#runTaskAsynchronously is probably better. That or CompletableFuture#supplyAsync

Anyhow, I believe most command frameworks support that version, I’d go with ACF or CommandAPI for 1.8

[young knoll]

I still don’t entirely understand virtual threads vs thread pool

[hardy sundial]

Thanks, yeah 1.8 is very old ACF doesnt support async CommandAPI is not for 1.8 and something Cloud their implementation seems incomplete

[sly topaz]

There was just no asynchronous completions/commands back then

[hardy sundial]

sadly

[sly topaz]

Anything asynchronous you’ll have to do manually

[hardy sundial]

Ah I see thanks

[sly topaz]

It is just a forkjoin thread pool with a light wrapper around threads to make them lighter for context switching and what not

But you could achieve the same making your own, just nice to have as a standardized API. Besides it plays nice with concepts like structured concurrency

[trim quest]

spigot is single-threaded(main event loop) right ? i assume that it is but it is offer async processing.

[sly topaz]

Harder to say it is the case nowadays, since Minecraft has moved quite a few of the logic off main. But yes, it is primarily single-threaded for what’s worth

[trim quest]

just like javascripts main event loop

it is the old way to handle async processing, before parallel & concurrent programming. it is support interleaving operations

[young knoll]

Generally the async events have async in the name

[sly topaz]

I always forget they’re asynchronous at all given you can access and modify world data just fine there lol

[hardy sundial]

I may have found one its called LiteCommands supports 1.8 and old async 🙂

[celest charm]

Hi guys, is there a way to generate a World without water?

[young knoll]

You could go over every chunk after generation and remove the water

Not pretty but it’d work

The alternative is to make your own world generator

[celest charm]

I'm trying to make an UHC Plugin and generate ideal worlds to play on

[thorn isle]

there is probably a knob you can twist with a datapack to set the ocean level to 0 or -64 or something

[young knoll]

Is that part of the worldgen datapack?

That’d probably work then

[thorn isle]

i know the value isn't hardcoded, it's definitely data-driven from somewhere, and most data-driven things can be adjusted with a datapack

no clue what the property name is or how you'd go about changing it, though

[celest charm]

mh

[thorn isle]

i'm pretty sure they have some low-level optimizations specifically relating to blocking io that makes them more efficient than what you could achieve on your own, at least without like jni or something

[celest charm]

is there a library i can use to manipulate world generation easily? Like mineral veins more long, more lava and water pools etc.?

[thorn isle]

you can turn certain features off with the worldcreator api i think

but for proper control it's either nms or datapacks

or alternatively a custom world generator plugin that lets you adjust those options; i recall there being two or three fairly high profile world gen plugins out there, but no clue if they're still alive

[left jay]

ok so again, thanks for the advice, but that didn

't really help with github being blind as hell

[celest charm]

imma prolly look at some UHC plugin and see how they do it

[trim quest]

bro you can provide async without library

i mean you can write your own.

[thorn isle]

depending on what you want to do async, it might happen out of the box

[celest charm]

saw one using WorldEdit

[thorn isle]

e.g. the async tab complete event is async

[chrome beacon]

blind?

[thorn isle]

he had some jitpack not finding something issue

[hardy sundial]

I dont wanna write my own

[chrome beacon]

Jitpack won't find the jar if you change the output dir

though I assume you fixed that since I warned about it earlier

Jitpack has the build log could you link it and the repo

[left jay]

oh thats what you ment by the output dir i did not know that
https://jitpack.io/#Somebodys-home/NMLAttributes
https://github.com/Somebodys-home/NMLAttributes

so like, what specifically about the output dir does jitpack look for

[chrome beacon]

yeah that pom isn't valid

You should have noticed this when you compiled locally

Make sure you're actually using maven and not artifacts

You seem to have to a replace all on plugin to nmlAttributes and broken the pom

[left jay]

oh damn youre so right

i havent looked at this pom in 5 months lmao

[echo basalt]

why can't I cancel VehicleMoveEvent

cancelling pushes from the wind charge effect has never been this convoluted ffs

I'm about to bytebuddy this shit

[left jay]

ok i can't find answers anywhere else so i gotta ask
what did you mean when u said my output directory was a problem and how does jitpack even look for the jars anyways?

[cedar flume]

Hey!
Im wondering if anyone can tell me when did Enchantment.DURABILITY change to Enchantment.UNBREAKING ?
as in which MC/Spigot version?
wanting to keep my notes accurate 🙂

[grand flint]

1.20.5

[cedar flume]

ty

[echo basalt]

mm bytebuddy my beloved

having to use unsafe too

I love this

cool now I just need to hook this up to worldguard

This sounds like a #help-server issue

[potent crescent]

ops. i thought this is

sorry

[slender elbow]

why are you using unsafe for instance fields 🤔

[echo basalt]

private final

on java 21

now I'm just wondering how I'll fire a bukkit event from this

and listen on my own plugin with a diff classloader

reflection maybe?

[ornate patio]

how do i loop through all entities in the server, loaded and unloaded

for (World world : Bukkit.getServer().getWorlds()) {
    for (Entity entity : world.getEntitiesByClass(AbstractArrow.class)) {

this only gets all loaded entities

[drowsy helm]

you'd have to go through every single chunk

[chrome beacon]

Uh why

[drowsy helm]

this just sounds like an xy problem

[chrome beacon]

^^

[ornate patio]

wdym

[chrome beacon]

?xy

[drowsy helm]

?xy

got removed huh

[ornate patio]

i think i remember that tag actually

ik what u mean

lemme explain

[slender elbow]

unless you are working with JPMS modules, reflection will work just fine

[drowsy helm]

The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

[ornate patio]

minecraft 1.21.6 changed a super random feature where if a player shoots an arrow and logs out, the arrow will eventually lose its ownership attribute

it wasn't like this in 1.21.5

[echo basalt]

reflection giving me classloader issues rn

how do I do this hm

[ornate patio]

i'm trying to implement a fix for this by storing the shooter in the arrow's PDC, then whenever a player logs on it goes through all arrows and reapplies ownership to any unowned arrows

the arrows are useful for technical wireless redstone systems that track the player's look vector

[chrome beacon]

Reapply it when it's loaded

[young knoll]

No @undone axle has fallen and can’t get up

[echo basalt]

how tf

[ornate patio]

using ChunkLoadEvent?

i guess that works for my case specifically with my redstone contraptions since theres an ender pearl stasis chamber, but there are some other ones that require the arrows to keep ownership even in unloaded chunks

additionally though, Projectile#setShooter behaves unpredictably when the owner is offline

so i'd need to also check every loaded chunk whenever a player logs on

[chrome beacon]

There's another event for entities

[echo basalt]

yeah I'm honestly lost

[chrome beacon]

Also is this an issue on Vanilla

[echo basalt]

got my code running in the nms classloader and now I dunno how to run it back on the plugin class

[slender elbow]

why do you have code in the nms classloader lol

[echo basalt]

bytebuddy intercepting nms methods iirc it'd bug out without

at least it did when I fucked with FileConfiguration

yaeh

[slender elbow]

well that's different

FileConfig lives in the same jar, and thus cl, as the rest of spigot, and the server

[echo basalt]

welp still breaks so

eh

still how tf do I call an event for this

unless I can access WE directly from the nms classloader >:)

[slender elbow]

i mean, plugins are separate cls

what are you trying to do anyway? why do you need bb

[stiff harbor]

Anyone have a good example of a falling block plugin?

[echo basalt]

fucking with server explosions because there's no good way to cancel windburst knockback

I can't intercept ignoresExplosion on entities because bb doesn't redefine for subclasses

so I'm running advice on ServerExplosion's explode method and running a custom DamageCalculator that nullifies kb

KnockbackEvent doesn't fire, VehicleMoveEvent isn't cancellable

I'm not gonna teleport entities

or emulate enchants

[slender elbow]

knockback event doesn't fire?

[echo basalt]

nope

at least not for boats

[slender elbow]

i mean

knockback event is for living entities only, no?

yes

boats aren't among the living

[echo basalt]

the fuck can I do

customer's specifically using boats to test

[young knoll]

Kill them

• For legal reasons that’s a joke

[chrome beacon]

Fall block plugin?

[echo basalt]

seems to work let's pray I can fuck with WG here

no errors

I call this a victory

[slender elbow]

mojang making ServerExplosion a final class :despair:

[echo basalt]

:(

don't make me emulate the enchant

disable that shit entirely with registry hacks and make my own copypasta logic

[wraith delta]

Context; if you use 1.21 api then the plugin won’t work on 1.8

Question; if I add 1.8 api AND 1.21 can the plugin work on all versions but also be able to provide the latest content if available

Obviously you can’t have latest content in old versions but to make the plugin available on all versions…

[vast ledge]

If you use reflection it's fine

E.g. sign editing with colors codes, make a reflection class with the functions and on startup init either the class for 1.21 or 1.8

Tbh I like abstract classes more but I'll get stabbed if I say use abstract

[wraith delta]

Would be nice if ppl just used the latest version -.-

So much to offer

[vast ledge]

Yea, it would, but people are sadly people so that ain't gna happen

[sly topaz]

yes, but only because it is a version older than api-version property (aka before 1.13)

you have to put 1.21.7 as API version in your plugin.yml so it works on latest, but load the 1.8 classes reflectively

also make sure that shared logic doesn't import anything that doesn't exist in 1.8, i.e. abstract classes/methods which didn't exist in 1.8, as well as behavior changes such as the ones from the interact event

[young knoll]

Modules would be good here

Depending on how much differs between 1.8 and 1.21 for your plugin

[misty ingot]

i am using gradle and I need to access the API of a plugin whos jar i have (in libs folder)
i havent used gradle before so how would i go about doing this?

[mortal vortex]

having a dedicated libs folder makes it seem like you might have more than one? If thats the case, use flatDir

So on your repositories, add:

repositories {
    flatDir {
        dirs 'libs'
    }
    .... // ur maven n shit
}

Then for your depends:

implementation(":foo:1.2.3")

[misty ingot]

that being
implementation(":<plugin_name>:<version>")
right

[mortal vortex]

no .jar

but yes

[misty ingot]

bukkit:H4sIAAAAAAAA/0WMwQ7CIBAFnxIbQ2PsqR/....
what kind of item serialization is this?

[grand flint]

it is

1.8 servers are dropping day by day

[vast ledge]

From where

[misty ingot]

making a plugin for someone, this is what they are giving in the config

prolly should just ask them huh

[chrome beacon]

base64 probably

[misty ingot]

doesnt look much like i would expect base64 to be

[celest charm]

Since when OSSRH went down, even on the Spigot repo, Gradle can't find this dependancy net.md-5:bungeecord-chat:1.8-SNAPSHOT

[wet breach]

seems sonatype only has as far back as 1.16

[celest charm]

damn, so what repo should I use?

I don't want to locally import the Spigot dependancy everytime

[wet breach]

might have to. not sure why this would be a problem?

not like its going to change

[celest charm]

yeah

you right

[sly topaz]

https://gist.github.com/graywolf336/8153678

this method spread like wildfire back in the bukkit days, it is how people used to serialize items back then

still kinda is today, you can use a bukkit object IO stream, I am not sure whether it retains or makes use of DFU in order to handle upgrades though

[sly topaz]

tbf I also hate doing that given I switch workspaces a lot

but I personally just setup a private github repository with a package if i deem it necessary

[slender elbow]

no dfu for u

[thorn isle]

leave it to bukkit to go "yea so the format the data is in is an impl detail, just idk convert it into base64 and store it in your config as a string or something"

[tender jetty]

Hello "The ONLY way to have your plugin correctly compile while including PALE_OAK materials (and all other latest 1.21 materials like newer copper and tuff variants) is to update your spigot-api-1.21.7-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar to a truly comprehensive and up-to-date build. You would need to use Spigot's BuildTools to generate the absolute latest 1.21.7 API JAR."

ai says pale oak isnt in 1.21.7 api, anytone else got this problem?

[thorn isle]

it says it is in 1.21.7 but not in anything lower

[twin venture]

hi so have been working on a system where when a lobby server start (it will first load cosmetics , kits from config files ) , only in lobby and after it get loaddded seccfully , it will send these kits , cosmetics .. etc into redis , further more when a game server start it will pull this data into local cache of that specfic server

is this a good aproch? i want to have the kits , cosmetics .. etc configurations only in lobby servers ..

and game servers will pull the data from redis ..

[thorn isle]

which is also wrong

it should be in 1.21.4 and anything higher, since the api version corresponds to the game version

if you have a particular error or an issue you're trying to solve, you can start by describing it

[wet breach]

why not use a server for your workspace instead?

its what I did in the past when I was doing a lot of moving around

this way it didn't really matter what system I had accessed to I can still do all my stuff regardless 🙂

but you can always setup a remote maven repo too and works just as good

[tender jetty]

Basically, as far as spigot 1.21.7 is concerned, pale oak does not exist in the game

[thorn isle]

how are you determining this

[wet breach]

the all mighty AI of course

its never wrong

[tender jetty]

// NEW UNIFIED SET FOR PLANK SOURCES
private static final Set<Material> ALL_PLANK_SOURCE_WOOD = EnumSet.of(
// All Logs (from your ALL_LOGS list)
Material.OAK_LOG, Material.SPRUCE_LOG, Material.BIRCH_LOG,
Material.JUNGLE_LOG, Material.ACACIA_LOG, Material.DARK_OAK_LOG,
Material.CRIMSON_STEM, Material.WARPED_STEM,
Material.STRIPPED_OAK_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_SPRUCE_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_BIRCH_LOG,
Material.STRIPPED_JUNGLE_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_ACACIA_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_DARK_OAK_LOG,
Material.STRIPPED_CRIMSON_STEM, Material.STRIPPED_WARPED_STEM,
Material.MANGROVE_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_MANGROVE_LOG,
Material.CHERRY_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_CHERRY_LOG,
Material.PALE_OAK_LOG, Material.STRIPPED_PALE_OAK_LOG, // NEW: PALE_OAK_LOG
// All Wood Blocks (from your ALL_WOOD_BLOCKS list)

[wet breach]

just ask it, and it bestows wisdom untu thee

[tender jetty]

Description Resource Path Location Type
PALE_OAK_PLANKS cannot be resolved or is not a field Starttutorial.java /starttutorial/src/main/java/starttutorial line 1562 Java Problem
PALE_OAK_LOG cannot be resolved or is not a field Starttutorial.java /starttutorial/src/main/java/starttutorial line 1575 Java Problem

im prob doin smthn

and dont know it

[thorn isle]

and what is this

[tender jetty]

my dope plugin for dope stuff

[thorn isle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/Material.html#PALE_OAK_LOG

[tender jetty]

but i need all da blox

[thorn isle]

it definitely is defined in the API

[tender jetty]

dang wtf

[wet breach]

shhh, the AI says it doesn't exist

[thorn isle]

have you set your api-version in plugin.yml

[tender jetty]

yes

1.21.7

OHOHOHOHOH

WAI9T

wait

nehvertmind

[thorn isle]

it doesn't accept minor versions

needs to be 1.21

if your ide/build tool isn't finding it, it could be that you are including a lower version of bukkit as a transitive dependency with your build tool

what build tool are you using? print a dependency tree and see if something else is including older versions of bukkit

[tender jetty]

thats what i think i missed, about to try it

[thorn isle]

a common culprit is the worldedit/worldguard api, which include bukkit 1.13

[tender jetty]

eclipse

[thorn isle]

consider switching to a proper build tool like maven or gradle instead of building with the ide

[tender jetty]

using maven, and i think i should stop spending 2 days awake at a time because the brain forgets the little details...

cheers and thank you so much for your help 🙂

i still gots lotz 2 learn

[thorn isle]

oh yeah and consider using material tags instead of hardcoding a set of materials

that's what they're for

[tender jetty]

Okay

[thorn isle]

something something Tag.LOGS_THAT_BURN

or just logs

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/Tag.html#LOGS

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/polyergus-ants-antkeeping-social-parasite-antbaron-gif-24806816

[tender jetty]

the ant build

best tool

[wet breach]

its the best until you get some convoluted build script going on

XD

then its like, alright lets not touch it anymore less we break everything

[twin venture]

. 🙂

[tender jetty]

yeah... too many legs thats why

[tender jetty]

yep tagz r OP ty

[wet breach]

what happens if the data is missing from redis?

[twin venture]

do you mean cosmetics , kits data?

or user data?

did you understand my point?

[wet breach]

anything. Redis is a caching mechanism mainly or memory DB. It is possible to have something happen and the data just not be present in redis

[twin venture]

i want it to be editable in lobby ladedd first from main lobby server , and then it will be pushed to all game servers

its important to have it only in lobby

as i don't want to have like config files for every server edited

[thorn isle]

as long as you get it to work it sounds like a sensible approach

[twin venture]

btw iam using lettuce rn its like a better ver of redis

https://github.com/redis/lettuce

[thorn isle]

what's the lifecycle/lifespan of the game servers

[twin venture]

game serer start , player's join , finish game , server restart

[wet breach]

Thats fine, my question was more geared to though what is the backup plan if redis doesn't contain the data though? The DB should have it and generally it isn't just going to be missing from there assuming its setup properly

[thorn isle]

i probably wouldn't worry about using redis as a keystore or a cache or anything and just use its messaging system to send over the data on game server startup, and keep it in the game server's memory until the game is complete and it restarts, since you probably don't want to be changing your game properties while a game is running

[wet breach]

and how would you know that data is missing from redis o.O

[twin venture]

ofc

it will loaod the data to game servers once the game server restart (start)

[thorn isle]

for this something more intended for messaging might be better, like rabbitmq

but redis does have some basic messaging functionality as well and should get the job done

[twin venture]

what is better for perfoormance? / easy to manage?

[wet breach]

I suppose I just fail to see the advantage here

not saying using redis is wrong btw

you can absolutely use it

[thorn isle]

i think a messaging system is probably easier since it doesn't come with the extra baggage of a keystore

[twin venture]

you mean rabbitmq?

[thorn isle]

the easiest and most maintainable way would probably still just be a database, though

[wet breach]

is there multiple lobbies?

[twin venture]

i assume there will be , in this case it will fail xDD

[thorn isle]

like just have the lobby update a mysql database on startup/config reload/whatever, and have the game servers read the data from the database into memory when they start up

[twin venture]

exactly

[thorn isle]

you don't need redis or messaging for this

[twin venture]

and it will load it into memory (local cache of that game server)

[thorn isle]

just plain old mysql will do

[twin venture]

??

[twin venture]

naah

[wet breach]

this is what I was thinking, thus where does redis come into all this? lol

[twin venture]

i like mysql but i want to have it simple for end user

[wet breach]

you can?

the end user doesn't need to mess with the tables or anything

you can just have java set all that up for them

[thorn isle]

redis isn't really any simpler to set up than mysql

if anything mysql is easier because it's still the more established solution

[twin venture]

this is the current cosmetics.yml file :

[eternal night]

aren't both just a docker container to be spun up somewhere

[wet breach]

also, mysql also has memory only DB albeit it is used differently then redis but operates basically the same

[thorn isle]

e.g. lots of shared hosting services come with free mysql servers set up on the side, very few come with the same for redis

and probably exactly none for fringe shit like rabbitmq

if you want to make it 100% hands-free for the end user, you could use plugin messaging to send over the config through the actual network connection between the lobby and the backend, without any sql/redis/message queue server setup

but that is 🤡

[twin venture]

the one on the right is the lobby server :
one on the left is game server

[thorn isle]

plugin messaging does have the downside that it requires a player to connect to the backend before anything can be sent, but since it's a minigame backend that spins up for players, that shouldn't be a big problem

still my recommendation would be a sql database

[twin venture]

naah i would not do the plugin messaging , i will consider do the sql database

thanks

[wet breach]

there is a better way if you are going to have multiple lobbies

[thorn isle]

web config ui 🤡

[twin venture]

yeah?

[lilac dagger]

i use sockets for my communication between servers

[wet breach]

ideally in a multiple lobby multiple minigame server setup assuming the minigames are not all different is to have the lobbies and minigame servers together. So, for example. if you have 10 lobbies, each lobby server can manage 10-20 minigames(they are just separate worlds and don't necesssarily need to be on a separate physical server from the lobby). In this scenario we only need to have the lobby pull the data and just keep it in memory and then when the minigame worlds just get created/destroyed and they use said info already in memory.

[lilac dagger]

it's pretty cool

my system allows seemless transition to any number of games on each server from the lobby

[wet breach]

unix sockets?

[lilac dagger]

java sockets

most likely sockets of whatever java extends from

[wet breach]

oh TCP socket

[lilac dagger]

yep

[wet breach]

makes sense

[thorn isle]

use jni bindings between YamlConfiguration and a native implementation in C and allocate shared virtual memory so every backend's config is actually backed by the same physical memory

[lilac dagger]

it's really efficient vs the 1 game per server method

[wet breach]

you could just do memory mapping

and save the trouble with JNI

[thorn isle]

probably doable these days with MemorySegment as well

although for sharing memory between processes i think you still do need jni and C, java memory segments/unsafe mmap only acts in the process's own virtual address space and won't be shared with other processes

[wet breach]

memory mapping is handled by the OS

while technically you can have 2 memory mappings that are separate, you could also just have a single one in memory as well

[paper viper]

You could use the FFR API too

[wet breach]

but they all map to the same resource and you can communicate between all applications on the system so its not inherently restricted to just the JVM either

[paper viper]

I’m going to be honest I dislike JNI because of the stupid method names lmao

I’d rather use JNA

Which is slower yes

[thorn isle]

i actually am not sure how foreign function/memory access is implemented under the hood

[paper viper]

It’s faster than JNI for recent benchmarks

It only really recently surpassed

[wet breach]

it brings the native solutions you suggested into the JVM itself

[paper viper]

But honestly even the FFR API itself can be very annoying to work with for big libraries

It’s just doesn’t translate well

When I look at JNA code, the method names, types, returns, and everything lines up well

[wet breach]

basically FFR is the advanced version of memory mapping

where you are given more direct access to memory outside of the JVM

where as memory mapping is more indirect

[thorn isle]

i should probably look into it one of these days, can't really think of anything sensible to use it for off the top of my head, though

[wet breach]

lol

its always funny like that with new api's sometimes

when finally something comes to the language its like, well now I don't know why I want it now

[lilac dagger]

i never needed access to direct memory

[misty ingot]

how can i check if an item is glowing?

[echo basalt]

Check for EnchantmentGlintOverride or if it has enchants?

Any idea how I can disable the "durability" text in 1.21.4? hide_additional_tooltip does nothing

[thorn isle]

i think at that point in time it was already under its own component

although in between mojang changing the way how it works for 3 versions in a row and spigot and paper representing each of those changes differently in the api, i have no idea anymore

[eternal night]

Presumably the hidden component component needs to include durability

[smoky anchor]

F3 + H
I think that is client side tho

[slender elbow]

not on 1.21.4 :) :(

[eternal night]

Oh

But who cares about that

[pseudo hazel]

its client side for sure

basically anything that appears with f3+h cant be hidden

[slender elbow]

yeah on that version the only thing that will hide it is, well, hide_tooltip

which is just going with the nuclear option

unless you want to tell the client the item is never damaged, but then that does not display the durability bar

[stiff harbor]

Anyone know where to change in the config files to hide score from scoreboard? Im using score to order the text on the screen but I want to hide the red text on the rightside (the score)

[worldly ice]

i believe it's a property on the objective itself

not sure if you can modify it with the api tho

[echo basalt]

watch me use the new custom model data stuff to render the durability bar

heheha

[slender elbow]

tbf that's sort of the point lol

not exactly for that but yeah

[thorn isle]

i've seen something similar done