help-development

[crude zephyr]

or am i fucking stupid

[cosmic elk]

youre not stupid lol

but youre trying to refrance the block that was broken before returning it

[sly topaz]

what is the block field

[cosmic elk]

    public void onDestroyCrops(BlockBreakEvent e) {

        if(Tag.CROPS.isTagged(Material.WHEAT)) {
            Ageable ageable = (Ageable) block.getBlockData(); // youre trying to get the age of the block before you set the object
            if (ageable.getAge() == 7) {
                String message = "Wheat Broken!";
                Block brokenBlock = e.getBlock(); // This is the block youre trying to get the age of
                Location location = brokenBlock.getLocation();
                World world = location.getWorld();
                world.spawnEntity(location, EntityType.EXPERIENCE_ORB);
            }
        }
    }```

[sly topaz]

well, the code is confusing, that if statement is checking if #crops contains wheat, which it does, always

you're meant to get the type of the broken block and then check if that is tagged, not a specific material

[cosmic elk]

so something like this

 String message = "Wheat Broken!";```
wont work because youre refrancing the object, *then* you create it, but Java works down line by line, so youll need to make the object then get the age data

[sly topaz]

I am going to be annoying one last time I strongly recommend you just do a java course

it really doesn't take long and should give you a better foundation than shooting darts in the dark like you're doing right now

if you do ?learnjava in #bot-commands, you'll see a few options, I personally recommend the Jetbrains course

[cosmic elk]

that could be a good idea

[crude zephyr]

i cant fucking do it

i just want this one thing done

i dont understand what goes before what

i havent programed in 2 years

im fucking stupid

[true cosmos]

Okay not really for this but hear me out

vibe code

maybe if your desperate idk

[cosmic elk]

dont be too hard on yourself like ive been coding since I was 10 and it took me a month at least to start understanding Java, id highly recommend forgetting about coding plugins for a bit and start with just Java, that video I sent is very good for explaining the basics and maybe following along in an online complier is worth trying yk?

[crude zephyr]

i just want this done then ill stop

my client wants this plugin for his server

and i said i can try do it for him

but its to fucking hard

[true cosmos]

what is this person asking for

[cosmic elk]

i was just about to ask that lol

[true cosmos]

im curious if their scope is even fair

[crude zephyr]

the 4 ideas where,
a message that is sent in chat when someone joins the world
a pop sound when someone teleports
a death message when someone dies
and crops dropping EXP

[cosmic elk]

if youre getting stressed out i wouldnt mind writting that last method for you if you want

[sly topaz]

honestly, not a bad option if they just want to get it done and never touch progamming again lol

hell, I'd even use Skript for this if it being a plugin isn't a requirement

[true cosmos]

some lingo term i learned yesterday lol

id encourage using it to navigate docs

[sly topaz]

I wouldn't, it's poison for beginners

[true cosmos]

what import do i need for this event?

where do i put it?

[sly topaz]

the issue is exactly that, a beginner doesn't know what questions to ask themselves

[true cosmos]

we need both, you and i.

one for it one against

[crude zephyr]

okay im back
can we just find what i need to fix and then i stop coding

im not a coder

tiz exactly why im doing hadware servicing at uni

[cosmic elk]

all you wanna do is change 'block' to 'brokenBlock'

[crude zephyr]

okay

done

but we havent set the exp amount

[cosmic elk]

true

just a sec imma look into how to do that

[crude zephyr]

also this error message

im asumming just remove that import line?

[cosmic elk]

yup if its just gray theres no need for it

[crude zephyr]

done

[cosmic elk]

youd wanna do this

    ExperienceOrb orb = world.spawn(location, ExperienceOrb.class);
    orb.setExperience(5);

[worldly ingot]

> me when my whole IDE is gray

[cosmic elk]

I honestly dont really understand spawning entities i almost never do it

[cosmic elk]

😭

[crude zephyr]

okay so this should work
should i build it and test if it works?

[cosmic elk]

yup that should work

[crude zephyr]

also can i remove the wheat broken mesage
where is that even being said?

[sly topaz]

@EventHandler
public void onBreak(BlockBreakEvent event) {
  var block = event.getBlock();

  if (!Tag.CROPS.isTaggedIn(block.getType()))
    return;

  var data = (Ageable) block.getBlockData();

  if (data.getAge() == data.getMaximumAge()) {
    world.spawn(block.getLocation(), ExperienceOrb.class);
    event.getPlayer().sendMessage("Crop broken!");
  }
}

[crude zephyr]

why is that diffrent 😭

[worldly ingot]

Not all crops age to 7. Some age to 4, some age to 6, etc.

[crude zephyr]

thats what i thought

[cosmic elk]

i have no idea why i didnt even think about that 😭

[crude zephyr]

didnt work
wheat didnt drop anything exept seeds and wheat items

[cosmic elk]

any errors in the log?

[worldly ingot]

You've registered your listener too, yes?

[crude zephyr]

plugin not showing in game

FarmingEXP

this is all the code

[quaint mantle]

Are you sure it's enabled?

[crude zephyr]

wdym

[quaint mantle]

Does this console have the enable message?

[crude zephyr]

i dont see it

my other plugin works but this one doesnt

yeah its not in the terminal

[quaint mantle]

Are you sure the plugin is in the /plugins/ directory?

[crude zephyr]

found the issue

wait no i havent

[sly topaz]

do you have a plugin.yml in your resources folder

if not, create one

[sly topaz]

well, if you see that message then it should definitely be seen in game unless an error popped up right after that

if you're unsure, send the logs here

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[crude zephyr]

plugin working kinda

but no exp dropping when fully grown wheat crop destroyed

[cosmic elk]

id recommend putting some logger messages in the listener, and checking if it prints to the console

[sly topaz]

what does your code look like right now?

[quaint mantle]

DEBUG

[crude zephyr]

i just want this to be done 😭

[sly topaz]

can you try what I sent instead

[quaint mantle]

Can you use debug statements?

[sly topaz]

just comment out what you have right now by surrounding it with /* and */

[crude zephyr]

i dont understand

[quaint mantle]

why are you using Tag?

[crude zephyr]

isTagged?

oh Tag...

idk

[sly topaz]

public class FarmingEXP extends JavaPlugin implements Listener {

  @Override
  public void onEnable() {
    getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);
  }

  @EventHandler
  public void onBreak(BlockBreakEvent event) {
    var block = event.getBlock();
  
    if (!Tag.CROPS.isTagged(block.getType()))
      return;
  
    var data = (Ageable) block.getBlockData();
  
    if (data.getAge() == data.getMaximumAge()) {
      var location = block.getLocation();
      location.getWorld().spawn(location, ExperienceOrb.class);
      event.getPlayer().sendMessage("Crop broken!");
    }
  }
}

this is all your class should have

[quaint mantle]

Sir

This is java

[crude zephyr]

your confusing me

[quaint mantle]

Just replace var with Block and Ageable

[sly topaz]

there's no need to do that

var has been a thing since java 11, if they're running 1.21.5 then they're at least running java 21

[quaint mantle]

Ah

I'm on 8

Noted tho

[crude zephyr]

okay this is what i have
` @EventHandler
public void onDestroyCrops(BlockBreakEvent e) {

    if(Tag.CROPS.isTagged(Material.WHEAT)) {

        String message = "Wheat Broken!";
        Block brokenBlock = e.getBlock();
        Location location = brokenBlock.getLocation();
        World world = location.getWorld();

        Ageable ageable = (Ageable) brokenBlock.getBlockData();
        if (ageable.getAge() == 7) {
            world.spawnEntity(location, EntityType.EXPERIENCE_ORB);

            ExperienceOrb orb = world.spawn(location, ExperienceOrb.class);
            orb.setExperience(5);

        }

    }

}`

what do i change it to

[quaint mantle]

Please use pastebin

[crude zephyr]

?

[quaint mantle]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[crude zephyr]

i dont know what thats used for

[quaint mantle]

wait

uh @sly topaz

Isn't Tag supposed to be use with Material?

[sly topaz]

tags are just collections of things, in this case you'd use it with a Material yes

[quaint mantle]

So why not get the brokenBlock as Material?

and then check if the material is wheat

[rotund ravine]

He is?

[sly topaz]

they are not

[quaint mantle]

They weren't

[rotund ravine]

You were

[rotund ravine]

.

[sly topaz]

ah yes I was

[quaint mantle]

Not them

The other person

[sly topaz]

english is hard

[crude zephyr]

so...

whats the issue

[rotund ravine]

Indeed

[quaint mantle]

Can we all speak in spanish instead

[rotund ravine]

Nop

[crude zephyr]

i dont even know english well 😭

[quaint mantle]

wait

[sly topaz]

te entedería mejor pero a que costo

[quaint mantle]

Can you check BlockState instead of Ageable?!?

[rotund ravine]

Hm?

[quaint mantle]

Nevermind

[quaint mantle]

@crude zephyr Can you try doing this?
Instead of using Ageable, get BlockState and getAge() with CropState

Holdon, lemme try this

[rotund ravine]

Wheat is not a blockstate?

[quaint mantle]

but you get the blockstate from the broken block?

[crude zephyr]

i just want this to be fixed
i dont know how to finish this myself

[rotund ravine]

Please go look up CropState my guy 😜

[quaint mantle]

Aj

Okay

[sly topaz]

CropState is MaterialData stuff don't touch that

[quaint mantle]

AH

I forgor spigot

[sly topaz]

I am amazed at the fact MaterialData hasn't been removed yet even though there's probably not a single plugin which depends on it nowadays

[quaint mantle]

Just cause you mentioned that

I'm gona make a plugin w MaterialData

[rotund ravine]

Cause of “legacy”

[sly topaz]

and even if one old plugin were to, it is likely that it'll have more issues than just using MaterialData lol

[rotund ravine]

Well they hope it doesn’t 😅

[sly topaz]

do old plugins even load, given they don't assign api-version

[quaint mantle]

api-version is post 1.13 ?

[rotund ravine]

As legacy plugins yes

Bytecode manip too for the Material class

[sly topaz]

ah right, no api-version just triggers legacy material support

fun

[quaint mantle]

I'm to eepy to understand spigot

[rotund ravine]

I just woke up

[quaint mantle]

Are you flexing?!

[rotund ravine]

Yes

[sly topaz]

I flex on the morning when I wake up too, it's good for your joints

runs

[random compass]

Hi guys. I am trying to develop a plugin and resource pack to make blocks of meat. im wondering if this is even possible. ive tried using noteblocks but the texture kept changing back to normal notebloks

[rotund ravine]

Sure

What version my guy

[random compass]

1.21.4

paper

[rotund ravine]

Use customblockdata

[sly topaz]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[rotund ravine]

?customblockdata

[random compass]

how?

[rotund ravine]

Not a thing?

Oh wiah that’s not what it’s called

Uhh

[sly topaz]

custommodeldata

[rotund ravine]

Yeah

[random compass]

i want it to be placeable, breakable and act kinda like a dirt block

[crude zephyr]

ok im going to get food
when i get back can somone help me what the issue is with my plugin

[rotund ravine]

#help-development message

[sly topaz]

it is possible, however you'll have little luck asking about resource packs specific questions here, we can only help achieve the logic from the plugin side

or maybe you're lucky and rad wakes up by the time you start working on it

they're the only person I know here that deals with resource pack stuff and plugins

[random compass]

link sends me to a shop for some reason

[random compass]

hmm thanks

[sly topaz]

here I forwarded it

[crude zephyr]

ping me if you can help
im having a brake

[rotund ravine]

.

[crude zephyr]

thats compleatly diffrent

[rotund ravine]

How so

[crude zephyr]

multiple var, i dont even know what that does

[rotund ravine]

Nothing, basically just too lazy to write the proper type

[random compass]

all the tutorials on cusotm model data are on items not blocks. i give up

[smoky anchor]

Yees, blocks do not have "custom model data" (or the newer item model component)
only items can have arbitary models with such freedom

[random compass]

So I can’t make a meat block

[smoky anchor]

I see you already tried noteblocks.
You have to do a bit more there, cancel the update events if it's your custom block and such.

[smoky anchor]

well you can always try display entities, tho many of those would kill your fps

[random compass]

Mmmm I did try maybe it’s the code that’s the problem not the resource pack

[smoky anchor]

Ye, most likely the code.
It's not as simple as "slap custom model on noteblock and be done"
If you care about survival you gotta solve that too somehow (I just made tuning fork item and forbid all but one noteblock state to begin with)

[echo basalt]

?blockpdc

[undone axle]

Learn about CustomBlockData here:
https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/custom-block-data-persistentdatacontainer-for-blocks.512422/

[echo basalt]

it's blockpdc

smh

[random compass]

That’s informative

But I still have no clue how to do it

I think it’s a bit complex for a beginner like me

[rotund ravine]

Not for custommodel shit, which was whqt i meant haha. No ? For that

[echo basalt]

not evne

[rotund ravine]

Not evne?

[echo basalt]

not even

custom model data doesn't apply for blocks

You could give it a go with display entities but you'll still need a base for them to be breakable

You could go for barrier blocks but they don't crack even with packets

People just use note blocks with some funky hacks

You have dozens of combinations and each one of them can be textured

You'll still have to track the block itself in space and that's what blockpdc is for

except worldedit support big L

[crude zephyr]

i have some questions about this code
1, how much exp does it give
2, why is getMaximumAge red

[young knoll]

“Dozens”

it’s like 1100

[smoky anchor]

2. wrong Ageable, you need https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/block/data/Ageable.html

and not https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Ageable.html

[smoky anchor]

1. I assume either 0 or 1 :D
   You gotta set the experience, use the spawn method with lambda

[crude zephyr]

sorry but i dont know how to do this
can you give an example or answer?

[smoky anchor]

Example: world.spawn(location, ArmorStand.class, stand -> stand.setVisible(false));

[crude zephyr]

im sorry but i dont know how to do this
this is harder than expected, can you please supply me with the answer

    public void onBreak(BlockBreakEvent event) {
        var block = event.getBlock();

        if (!Tag.CROPS.isTagged(block.getType()))
            return;

        var data = (Ageable) block.getBlockData();

        if (data.getAge() == data.getMaximumAge()) {
            var location = block.getLocation();
            location.getWorld().spawn(location, ExperienceOrb.class);
            event.getPlayer().sendMessage("Crop broken!");
            
        }
    }```

e.g. please edit this

[smoky anchor]

?spoon

[undone axle]

Spoonfeed a newbie for a day and they'll come back with more questions. Teach them to find their own answers and you'll both be better off: you won't get stuck answering the easy questions and they'll be much more productive than before.

[crude zephyr]

idk if you know what im wanting but
plugin that gives one exp when a fully grown crop is broken

[smoky anchor]

just replace the ArmorStand with ExperienceOrb, change "stand" var to "xp" for clear naming.
use xp.setExperience() to set the value

[crude zephyr]

bit rude
ive been working on this all day

[eternal oxide]

Not rude.

[nova notch]

Probably because, by the looks of it, you do not even know Java. Just a hunch tho

[eternal oxide]

You have taken all day because you don;t know java

[crude zephyr]

yes exactly
i dont know what im doing

[eternal oxide]

So learn. You will not learn by being spoonfed

[crude zephyr]

i dont want to learn now

[eternal oxide]

Then pay someone to do it for you

[crude zephyr]

i prefer hardware over software

i was just trying it out

[eternal oxide]

People are here to help those who wish to learn

[crude zephyr]

im sorry

[nova notch]

if you aren't gonna learn why even bother trying

[crude zephyr]

well i wanted to learn before

but now im over it

[mortal vortex]

this comment made my hardware get a lil software :(

[crude zephyr]

im so fucking stupid i dont know how to do the simplest of things

[random compass]

Learn basic java first

[crude zephyr]

i dont have time

[eternal oxide]

You wasted a day on this so far. You could have learnt java basics by now

[mortal vortex]

Then dont try?

Nothing comes to anyone who doesnt try

[crude zephyr]

ive been trying all day

i dont want to fight
this was more than i can chew

[smoky anchor]

If you're only missing this then I'll 🥄
location.getWorld().spawn(location, ExperienceOrb.class, xp -> xp.setExperience(NUMBER));

[crude zephyr]

i dont know how close i was
top one mine, bottom one yours

[mortal vortex]

@crude zephyr Pay for a subscription to Claude

[smoky anchor]

lowercase l

[crude zephyr]

cant afford

[smoky anchor]

quite far, but you do literally not know anything so understandable

[mortal vortex]

get a job

[crude zephyr]

im in Uni
im preparing for a job

[mortal vortex]

then focus on uni

what r u tryna do anyways and why dont u get someone to do it for you

[crude zephyr]

today was my day off
hence why i dont have time

[mortal vortex]

quit gooning on ur other days off then

lock in

[crude zephyr]

because i made a promise

[mortal vortex]

to?

[smoky anchor]

ok buddy chillll

[mortal vortex]

is it complex? and is it something someone else can js do for you?

[ocean gorge]

do the action bars not even support emojis as BossBars?

[smoky anchor]

'emojis' ?
And everything that renders text is the same, so whatever bossbar can do, action bar can do too

[ocean gorge]

Emojis ---> ItemsAdder

[crude zephyr]

summons exp but dosent increase level amount

[ocean gorge]

Oh

😦

[mortal vortex]

ItemsAdder
is this truly development relaterd

[smoky anchor]

try higher number?

[mortal vortex]

Are you sure the value is just too low that its not making a significant addition when already on 18 levels?

[crude zephyr]

i tried it with 0 levels and it did nothing

[smoky anchor]

It's not level, it's XP

[mortal vortex]

Try setting it to 5.

[crude zephyr]

i know how exp works
1, does nothing
5, too much
testing 2 now

[mortal vortex]

not saying to USE 5, but can you test that 5 even does anything

[crude zephyr]

"5, too much"

2 seems alright but alittle much

idk why 1 dosent work

[smoky anchor]

Wanna spawn orb with 2 only 50% of the time ?

would "solve" that problem

[mortal vortex]

But its weird though.. that 1 exp isnt being rendered?? level 0, needs 17 xp to get to level 1. and there are 18 segmetns in the XP bar. going from 0xp to 1xp would change the first bar surely?

[smoky anchor]

7 xp no ?

[crude zephyr]

1 working now
idk why it wasnt before

[smoky anchor]

ye 7

smh does not even remember level xp values

[mortal vortex]

kek im still using fandom

[smoky anchor]

Literally why
It's ad-riddled shithole of clearly incorrect information

[mortal vortex]

BECAUSE it still overtakes mc.wiki on certain seo results

[smoky anchor]

there's a browser extension to replace/remove those

[crude zephyr]

7 crops = 1 level up (level 0 to level 1)

okay the plugin is finished

[smoky anchor]

👏 👏 👏

[crude zephyr]

next time ima hire someone again

[mortal vortex]

how you detecting what is and what isnt a crop? Do you have an enum?

hire me, free gang

[smoky anchor]

using the tag, should theoretically be future proof

[mortal vortex]

okay hang on lol

have u made sure that tag doesnt include bamboo?

[mortal vortex]

where someone could place, and farm bamboo

okee good

[smoky anchor]

I guess pumpkin/melon might be a problem

[mortal vortex]

lol yes

[crude zephyr]

wait abb3v your free to hire

[smoky anchor]

the ancient flowers are fine

[crude zephyr]

id feel bad

[mortal vortex]

Yeah, im eating right now, dm me though.

[crude zephyr]

ill dm you if my client wants any other plugins

[smoky anchor]

tempted to ?services rn :D

[mortal vortex]

If you look for the pumpkin block directly, not the stem, then people could just break, place, break place, repeat

[mortal vortex]

how tf u even find a client as a non-dev

[crude zephyr]

youtuber :P

i said i would try

[crude zephyr]

pumpkins dont drop exp

[smoky anchor]

yes, keep it that way, as abb3v said it would be too much to make it work as expected

[crude zephyr]

thing is pumpkins can be automated unlike wheat (not inculding villagers)

wait do villagers spawn exp now?

[smoky anchor]

you mean them breaking the crops ?

[crude zephyr]

yes

[smoky anchor]

they spawn XP when you trade with them, they have since like 1.14 I bet

[smoky anchor]

based on your code... probably

"Called when a block is broken by a player. "
nvm no

unless docs are wrong just

?tas

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee/

[crude zephyr]

i like that man

little man

villagers do not summon exp

[smoky anchor]

docs did not lie \o/

[crude zephyr]

okay abb3v ill dm you if i need anything else made

and i will be paying

:)

[mortal vortex]

Yes, if you see the screenshot that Steve sent, its outlined that the tag you're using, includes wheat, carrots, and melon stems.

[smoky anchor]

but you can't afford claude 🤔

[crude zephyr]

ooo thats cool

[smoky anchor]

(which btw is a horrible suggestion, chat GPT would do just fine for something this simple)

[mortal vortex]

tbf claude is 30$ a month, and only gives you double (not unlimited as with chatgpt) prompts as their free version.

[mortal vortex]

yeah so melon stems and melons arent the same, as i said, if you included melons themselves, you could break and get EXP, but then replace it, and keep farming

[crude zephyr]

yee we dont want that

[crude zephyr]

im never using ChatGPT

dont like it

human art/code is way better

[smoky anchor]

good

[crude zephyr]

one of my classmates uses chatgpt regularly instead of making his homework himself

pathetic

[smoky anchor]

they way to solve that would be to: when the blocks grow, remember them
when you break those blocks, check if they are in the PDC, spawn XP and remove from PDC
For this you'd use Alex's blockPDC
Leave this on abb3v tho if you want this

[young knoll]

Probably easier to mark ones that get manually placed

[mortal vortex]

i was told not to use PDC for that kind of shit before

^

BY YOU

[smoky anchor]

I KNOW

SHUSH

[mortal vortex]

SO SHOULD I USE PDC OR NOT?? I STILL NEED AN ANSWER

[crude zephyr]

thanks for the help
ill reach out if i need anything more

[smoky anchor]

I mean the bitset is still the most efficient for this

[young knoll]

A bitset for every block in the world?

[mortal vortex]

To jog your memory, or if you werent present. I want to detect if a block was placed by a player, or if it was naturally occuring.

[young knoll]

PDC or a database

PDC is easier but will take up a bit more storage than a proper database

[mortal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gambling-dedication-cali-slot-machine-money-gif-11549382875540676479

im dedicated

[real lagoon]

The cigar is missing

[mortal vortex]

too broke mate

a cigar is what, 30-40 for a single?

[real lagoon]

Idk

[warm mica]

We're gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning

[drowsy helm]

Anyone aware of a method/event that I can listen to to detect a tripwire getting depressed thats NOT connected to a tripwire hook. Cant seem to find anything for this

[young knoll]

Technically the physics event probably fires

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017515898870956154.gif?size=48&name=pepe_laugh&quality=lossless

[drowsy helm]

it does not

[young knoll]

Really? But the block state changes

[drowsy helm]

Currently listening to BlockPhysicsEvent,PlayerInteractEvent,EntityInteractEvent and none of those capture non-attached tripwires

[young knoll]

It triggers observers so I figured it would

[drowsy helm]

yeah it's quite strange

[mortal vortex]

onPlayerMove, if player.getLocation().subtract(0, 1, 0).getBlock() is tripwire type shit 😭

[drowsy helm]

honestly i might just have to only used tripwire in attached state

[mortal vortex]

but it doesnt even seem possible

tripwires without tripwire hooks are effectively decorative and do not emit redstone signals or cause block state changes.

Try it by connecting an observer

even if there was an API method to detect something, where would still have to be that something to detect

[drowsy helm]

I'll be damned

Youre right

[young knoll]

Wot

But I know people have used that before

Did Mojang change it?

[drowsy helm]

was it definitely in attached:false state?

[mortal vortex]

afaik, always been like it

you know how using a debug stick u can place certain blocks? can you place a trippable tripwire without hook?

[drowsy helm]

oh maybe because im cancelling the event

[slender elbow]

bruh

[young knoll]

lol

It's likely client prediction that is making it still change

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mortal vortex]

okay cant u just now check for a blockstate change?

[young knoll]

There is no magical block state change event

Closest would be the physics event

[mortal vortex]

nerd

[drowsy helm]

cancelling the event or not, visual update still happens

I have a feeling thats client-side

[smoky anchor]

time to check packets :D

or better yet, unplug your internet

[drowsy helm]

I shall do this brb

[winter jungle]

What's the new name of the ClientboundAddPlayer packet? xd

[smoky anchor]

?mappings

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.dev/

[winter jungle]

I guess that will save my life

thank you

[drowsy helm]

new versions use the entity add packet now

[cinder epoch]

hi guys, how to disable chat color

i did set all perm .color to false in luckperm but still doesn't work

[slender elbow]

"disable chat color"?

[cinder epoch]

i mean prevent members using color code &e &b

[slender elbow]

well, do you know what plugin is allowing that in the first place?

[umbral ridge]

BetterJails

[slender elbow]

because that is not a vanilla spigot behaviour

[umbral ridge]

BetterJails is causing it

fix it Emily XD

[slender elbow]

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

no

[cinder epoch]

there's my plugins

[umbral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-the-head-oh-no-the-naked-gun-leslie-nielsen-facepalm-gif-14881869

jesus christ so many plugins

[wet breach]

you would think to start with the obvious named plugin

[umbral ridge]

EvenMoreFish

[cinder epoch]

hmm

i did find a better way to prevent that

also thank u guys

[winter jungle]

What's the packet called to rotate a head of an entity (NPC) in 1.21.4

[grand flint]

Hey guys if I need to have a location where the player for example receives an item to use while in it, how can I define it?

Can't be cords because I spawn the arena in

[dawn flower]

how do i turn a fawe world into a bukkit world

nvm

[blazing ocean]

BukkitAdapter

[umbral ridge]

whats a purpose of a brush

can blocks be dirty?

[smoky anchor]

brush armadillo scute from armadillos, brush suspicious sand for loot

[umbral ridge]

ooohh

[smoky anchor]

also, wiki exists for this exact type of question

[worldly ingot]

y wiki when u be wiki

[slender elbow]

/chocogpt whats a purpose of a brush

[remote swallow]

/emilygpt what's a purpose of a brush

[wicked estuary]

can someone help me with the multiverse-core plugin??

[silent slate]

Hey, do any of you recommend any sort of Inventory Management API, theres a lot of them and i dont really know what is the most used/best.

[tranquil ferry]

didnt not work 😭

even added screen and explanations to this

but decison was made towards buyer

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, there's never a 100% chance of either side winning. Just gotta do your best really

[grand flint]

bump pls

[chrome beacon]

Just store coords relative to the arena?

[grand flint]

Hm

How would I store the initial cords

[chrome beacon]

Just as relative coords

Assume one corner of the arena is at 0,0

[buoyant viper]

wtf were u reading My code...

[blazing ocean]

no

[buoyant viper]

damn

literally had just refactored my code n one of my classes is BukkitAdapter

[blazing ocean]

that's a WE class too

[thorn isle]

and probably in most other multiplatform projects

[grand flint]

Ah okay that's kinda smart

[primal vector]

enemy.setFireTicks(3240) does anyone know why I can't set the fireticks to an insane value? the fire just stops after 4 seconds
I tried enemy.getMaxFireTicks() and it returns 1 so idk what's going on
(tested on a iron golem)

[sly topaz]

DevNatan's inventory-framework or stefvanschie's IF are the ones I always recommend as they've passed the test of time

[echo basalt]

I should release my new one some day

debugging it rn it's real real fun

[blazing ocean]

it looked fun to debug

[echo basalt]

Still debugging

For some reason items kinda lose tracking when I'm trying to detect an update

and if I call forceUpdate when an update happens it duplicates old items

[paper viper]

I recommend using Triump GUI's strongly

I'm not a big fan of stef's IF

Never tried DevNatan's inventory-framework before

[echo basalt]

I tried triumph just found some parts of it wacky

and I don't think there are any libs rn that have all the BS restrictions mine has

mine also doesn't have all the features tbf

[paper viper]

which parts

[echo basalt]

Making it work with configs and stuff was just tiring

[paper viper]

but how is that related with the lib

[echo basalt]

It isn't it just didn't fit my use case

And still doesn't even by old standards

I find it quite basic but that's by design

[echo basalt]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[vagrant stratus]

Y'all a bunch of nerds so you might have an answer to this.

How would I go about getting all of the loaded strings? I know that one can just read the byte code and get the LDC values, but I don't feel like making a jvm emulator lol

[alpine urchin]

Since we’re nerds we’ll gate-keep the answer.

[thorn isle]

that'd only get the compile time constant strings

what are you doing?

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, so I need a run-time solution lol

[sly topaz]

I've heard of it before however I wouldn't recommend it over IF since it's too new

well, their 3.x is, it is been a thing for 5 years now apparently lol

time flies

[thorn isle]

short of altering the String constructor, the gc string deduplication code, or taking + inspecting a heap dump i don't really see any sane way of "getting all the loaded strings"

[grand flint]

Average packet developer type ah answer

[thorn isle]

depending on what you're doing it might be wiser to try and narrow down your scope

[vagrant stratus]

Dealing with obf, which requires getting strings after they're loaded

Only other option is making an entire emulator which is.... Ehhh

[urban cloak]

Ye the only option i see too is using a profiler

[vagrant stratus]

Might just go with a JVM fork then since I can then work with them programmatically. Not gonna be easy to do though 🤔

[urban cloak]

well you could work with them programmatically with a rofiler too

[vagrant stratus]

I mean https://github.com/Lenni0451/MiniJVM exists but it's over-kill and the first commit still adds way too much nor are there docs outside of a few test classes kekw

[dry hazel]

I mean that does not seem to interpret indy

so it's not that useful in today's day and age

[vagrant stratus]

indy?

[dry hazel]

invokedynamic

[sly topaz]

you can just use the JDI protocol

run your application with the debug agent and then use JDI to grab all String instances

[vagrant stratus]

Yea, that projects a WIP

[dry hazel]

https://github.com/xxDark/SSVM is a more complete solution but rather finicky

[vagrant stratus]

That's even more over-complicated kekw

Hmm. Gonna have to re-go through the various obf I have and see wtf to do from there

like ldc "TestUser" is super easy to deal with. It's just an LdcInsnnode in Objectweb ASM

but then there's stuff like this deobf

        final int iterationCount = 19;
        final byte[] salt = { -87, -101, -56, 50, 86, 53, -29, 3 };
        try {
            final KeySpec keySpec = new PBEKeySpec(key.toCharArray(), salt, iterationCount);
            final SecretKey secretKey = SecretKeyFactory.getInstance("PBEWithMD5AndDES").generateSecret(keySpec);
            final AlgorithmParameterSpec paramSpec = new PBEParameterSpec(salt, iterationCount);
            final Cipher cipher = Cipher.getInstance(secretKey.getAlgorithm());
            cipher.init(2, secretKey, paramSpec);
            final byte[] decrypted = cipher.doFinal(Base64.getDecoder().decode(encryptedText));
            return new String(decrypted, StandardCharsets.UTF_8);
        }
        catch (final Exception e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
            return null;
        }

It's be easier to just get that return string instead of re-implementing that entire deobf 😐

or one which is just replace & base 64 decrypt

There's a bunch which rely on stacktraces & such too 😐

[sly topaz]

@vagrant stratus https://pastes.dev/bQhI7p7M72

worked fine, I used 100 instances just to test it though, don't know how well it scales with thousands of strings

[ivory sleet]

interesting strings

[brisk estuary]

Hey, for some reason my listener for my custom event is not being fired when this event is triggered:
https://pastebin.com/hQNVAT1A

The debug message after calling the event is executed, which means the event was successfuly called, but the code inside the listener is not executed.

Both the task and the listeners are registered correctly. Also, the event is not being cancelled. I have no idea why the listener isn’t being triggered, I’d really appreciate some help.

[eternal oxide]

IF you are really registering your listener ok then there must be an issue in your event itself

[rotund ravine]

We’d need logs, as well as the mainclass that handles creating the eventlistener

[echo basalt]

are you ever calling new LeagueEventsListener

[sly topaz]

my guess is that they forgot the handler list in their event class

[echo basalt]

@thorn isle I finished the menu abstraction over NMS

[desert aspen]

https://paste.md-5.net/imidiragag.sql

this error show when i start the serv

what should i do

[young knoll]

Compile the plugin with an older version of java

[desert aspen]

what version should i use? mi plugin is for 1.21.1

[young knoll]

21

You’re currently using 22

[desert aspen]

alr thanks

[quaint mantle]

Are multi module projects supposed to have plugin.yml for each module?

[buoyant viper]

if each module is a plugin id say so probably

[somber scarab]

I do not need to keep world edit in my pom if I am building against fawe right?

and I assume no code changes?

[wet breach]

fawe depends on WE

it just depends what you are doing, there might be some methods you need from WE or maybe not. But if there is, you need WE

as long as you are not shading WE or FAWE which you shouldn't be, it doesn't hurt to keep it in the pom

[somber scarab]

hmm well coincidentally I just got this from removing world edit Could not find IQueueExtent from `com.sk89q.worldedit.bukkit.BukkitWorld` instance for entity retrieval, OncePerChunkExtent will not work.

I had removed any trace of world edit and replaced it with fawe

[wet breach]

you have your answer then 😉

[somber scarab]

so i guess that was not how to doit

[wet breach]

FAWE depends on WE

its basically in its name

just because you depend on FAWE doesn't mean FAWE shaded WE.

[somber scarab]

yea. I just didnt know how much fawe really replaces world edit? or maybe I don't exactly understand how fawe works with world edit

[wet breach]

only if a jar has shaded a dependency will the transitive dependency methods be available to you

[somber scarab]

hm yea makes sense

FAWE is calling me dumb

** 
** A plugin developer has included a portion of 
** FastAsyncWorldEdit into their own plugin, so rather than using
** the version of FastAsyncWorldEdit that you downloaded, you
** will be using a broken mix of old FastAsyncWorldEdit (that came
** with the plugin) and your downloaded version. THIS MAY
** SEVERELY BREAK FASTASYNCWORLDEDIT AND ALL OF ITS FEATURES.
**
** This may have happened because the developer is using
** the FastAsyncWorldEdit API and thinks that including
** FastAsyncWorldEdit is necessary. However, it is not!```

https://pastebin.com/rxBCvnLR

here's my pom.. I followed the tutorial from fawe's docs

[chrome beacon]

Time to rebuild

You probably built it without the provided scope on FAWE

[brisk estuary]

Yes, as I said everything is registered correctly

It turned out the obfuscation of the plugin jar was the cause of the issue xd

Even though the obfuscation was properly configured, I don't know what went wrong, because I set it up to exclude the custom event classes from being obfuscated

[ocean gorge]

😠

[smoky anchor]

I'm still gonna answer, thanos method time.
Remove 50% of plugins, see if your problem is fixed.

[ocean gorge]

mh

[ocean gorge]

oh

RealisticSeasons

[winter jungle]

Hey, I'm currently having a bit of a mental problem with my code. So in the orange area I load the world with the name "world" (this will be changed later)

And in the red area I use my ArmorStand handler to register locations, the problem is only at this point the world is not fully loaded yet.

So what is the best way to wait until the world is fully loaded before I use my ArmorStand Handler? Unfortunately I have not found a WorldLoadFinished event (only in NMS)

[chrome beacon]

How do you know the world isn't loaded yet

[winter jungle]

Beautiful drawings i know

[chrome beacon]

Load your plugin postworld instead of before it?

[winter jungle]

Oh, I didn't know that was possible. But how does it work with worlds that are loaded afterwards, i.e. non-standard Minecraft worlds?

[wet breach]

if you are needing something on server start you should use serverloadevent. It fires when the server is finished loading including loading up any worlds on start up. If you are just needing something that is a bit more dynamic like a world could be loaded later etc. Then here is this method https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/Location.html#isWorldLoaded()

What olivio said is also a thing too, in the plugin.yml you can specify to load post world

[winter jungle]

The funny part is, this method works on 3 different subservers, but in the fourth its not working anymore. Idk if its the map, but its so weird

[wet breach]

so you have a few options. You can even go old school and that is just set a timer in the onEnable where you just wait a bit of time before doing anything

everyone is always impatient and believes everything must be done immediately the moment their plugin loads/enables

I am a fan of the timer method just fyi as it is simple and doesn't rely on anything

[eternal night]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/world/WorldLoadEvent.html also exists fwiw

[wet breach]

Except they want something for after the world is done loading

that event fires when it loads, but not necessarily when it is done

[eternal night]

Except the world is loaded perfectly fine at that point in time

The event already exposes a World instance

in terms of e.g. bukkits WorldCreator, this event is the last bit that is executed in the loading logic

[wet breach]

idk their specifics, just pointing out what it is they said and what they are wanting/needing

[eternal night]

Sure 👍 as I said, that ought to work fine for them to read through worlds loaded later

[wet breach]

Yeah, it should I agree

[winter jungle]

I hate Minecraft. The problem was simple: The chunks from the Armor Stands are not loaded yet

🫡

[somber scarab]

@wet breach do you know anything about world generators?

<.<

or where I can learn about them? I'm trying to generate sky islands for my floor is lava minigame

so far this is my prograss following that one tutorial made my coolJWB

[young knoll]

Oh boy where’s that article

Hmm can’t find it, but I can provide some links

https://discord.com/channels/651605124652859404/686973568872873996

[sly topaz]

I'll be damned

[young knoll]

Rip

I thought discord let you view links even if you weren’t in a server

Maybe that’s only message links

https://github.com/PolyhedralDev/NoiseTool
https://discord.gg/BuBGds9

[sly topaz]

who else would I be accepting it as

I wonder how much of that server deals with bukkit-style chunk generators

[somber scarab]

am I fast learner or what exactly 😎

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/how-to-create-a-custom-world-generator.545616/

here's the tutorial I followed

its pretty decent

[young knoll]

Not a ton, but its a fairly abstract concept

Noise generation go brrr

[thorn isle]

neat

[echo basalt]

it was not simple

I had to write quite a bunch

[drowsy helm]

Nerd

Whats a noop

[echo basalt]

No op

[thorn isle]

mojangsters make do with like 5 classes

[echo basalt]

Eh

a lot of it is me wanting flexibility

Mojang does it with inheritance and strong typing, I don't get that luxury

I did get to write like 3-4 layers of abstraction to get away from nms as much as possible and that allows me to have nms-like control without having to rewrite all of it if mojang decides to update

[thorn isle]

is this up on github somewhere? i could take a peek at some point

[echo basalt]

Not for a while

[still pollen]

oh i cant upload my code

[thorn isle]

mmm i suppose i should've known from everything being green lmao

[echo basalt]

There's a bit more to it tbf

nothing too wild

[slender elbow]

all that for a List<ItemStack>

depressing

[echo basalt]

:(

has logic to it

and I did the good ol' cookie clicker

[slender elbow]

fair enough

[echo basalt]

also I suffered for 2 hours because nms itemstacks are kinda mutable and I didn't expect

[thorn isle]

yeah it's incredibly ass

everything relies on the fragile prayer that any accessor who grabs an itemstack and modifies it calls ::update on the slot they grabbed it from

i'm surprised there are only dozens rather than hundreds of dupes in the game

[quaint mantle]

Dupes are caused by nms?!

🧐

[slender elbow]

vanilla minecraft contains dupes, yes

shocking 😱

[thorn isle]

dupes? in MY nms? it's more likely than you think

[blazing ocean]

no, they're in con's NMS

[echo basalt]

some don't

but I caught them somewhat early on

specifically remove()

[somber scarab]

dupes from namespaces?

item dupes?

[floral fern]

hey can i get refund as the we cant get the dev help of that owner @ivory sleet

[pseudo hazel]

?support

[undone axle]

[e-mail]

[wet breach]

if you are referring to a plugin on the resources page of spigotmc

then you will have to contact paypal for that

spigotmc has nothing to do with payments other then just integrating payment processor for ease of use

[somber scarab]

can it have dupes? 😼

what do you guys do in order to learn about a thing that has very few resources on learning it?

like

custom world generation

I feel like my last resort is to either dig up some other plugin and dig through all its code.
or ask AI.

and I feel like one of those answers is the right one and it's drawing very close.. almost too close. my ADHD won't handle

[sly topaz]

I just check the code

seeing examples help, but as long as you understand the problem space it shouldn't be hard to deduce from the implementation of the API

well, in most cases anyway, this being spigot that proves to be rather convoluted as it's kind of a mess of patches and decompiled code which doesn't make for a pretty experience

[wet breach]

check the code

[somber scarab]

what even is a good project to analyze for world gen

[wet breach]

its not like its unviewable

[somber scarab]

wait

[sly topaz]

Minecraft itself

[somber scarab]

minecraft code itself

👭 how do I do that

[wet breach]

granted however some of us here don't actually require the code to be deobfuscated to read/understand it which I Recommend you getting used to

[somber scarab]

or better question is

[wet breach]

makes it far easier instead of always trying to deobfuscate lol

[somber scarab]

how do I do that without going crosseyed

[sly topaz]

if you want to read vanilla code I personally recommend Parchment as mappings flavor as they got javadocs for some methods as well as parameter names which is useful

[wet breach]

but yeah, that is essentially what all the devs deemed pro's do is just read the code

[sly topaz]

what are you trying to do

like, what is your goal with world gen

[wet breach]

they want to know how the world generation works apparently

which good luck I suppose

[sly topaz]

yeah but I assume they want to use that world gen for something specific and not just for the sake of knowing lol

[wet breach]

its quite the mess

[somber scarab]

sooo

okay

[slender elbow]

world gen :despair:

it's all about understanding noise

[sly topaz]

you don't even have to understand it tbh, just take a noise generator and modify its parameters enough to match whatever you want

unless you're Jish and you're making a dungeon generator or something

[somber scarab]

I have, on my hands two things..

• junior level software developer experience
• the most polished Floor is Lava UFC minigame out there

I just need to make it fun and fresh all the time.

that's why I need to learn world gen in order to incorporate my own world parameters

• like ensuring wood and trees are abundant
• my floor level is always around Y 40 - 60
• I have custom naturally generating sky islands with ores (to allow ppl to get ores without diving towards the lava rising from the bottom)

so I thought about making my OWN world generation tool so I can make custom plots of land while still making it look like "minecraft"

https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/floor-is-lava-advanced-minigame.113329/

just look here and ull get it

[sly topaz]

isn't that the one I cloned last week to debug an issue with some inventory handler being null

[somber scarab]

yes uwu

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/generator/ChunkGenerator.html

[sly topaz]

doesn't sound that complicated of a generator

[somber scarab]

right which is why I think it's doable but still I'll need a few nights of studying

I dabled alone a lil and this is what I managed to do

[sly topaz]

what I'd do is take a ChunkGenerator, then iniside of it use a noise generator of your choice, Bukkit has SimplexOctaveGenerator and PerlinNoiseGenerator if I rememeber correctly, you could also just take a library instead of using bukkit defaults

[wet breach]

chunk generator is probably ideal for skyislands, however in the image above if you wanted a sky region instead chunk generator isn't that ideal

[sly topaz]

then to limit the height you'd have to take the generated noise, multiply it by some factor then add (min_height + max_height) / 2 to it

[somber scarab]

I'm planning on making three levels of islands in higher and higher Y levels

iron islands Y level 100-ish
gold Y level 200
diamond islands Y level whateer

[somber scarab]

it's like drawing with math and I hate it.

but I gotta do it

[wet breach]

well, that is still easy to do with a chunk generator if you are just doing something like skyblock but differently

[somber scarab]

that's a good way to describe it

sky block but better

[sly topaz]

as for the sky islands, inside the same noise, use the random given by the ChunkGenerator and just generate a random number, if it is more than x%, then generate a sky island within the Chunkdata

for the decorations you'd use block populators

decorations being things like trees, not necessarily ores as you'd handle that inside the noise generation

[somber scarab]

I dont get it

but it's okay we'll take it a step at a time

I'll be here often lmao

[wet breach]

just jump into the deep end and swim

or you could optionally choose to not swim, that has worked for a select few >>

[somber scarab]

is that what you meant by viewing minecraft's code?

[wet breach]

no, it just happens that spigot has api for a chunk generator

[somber scarab]

yeah I get that

[wet breach]

which is handy for smaller scale stuff to an extent. But it only works on ungenerated chunks but after the world is created

[somber scarab]

that is no problem. right now I copy random chunks from a pregenerated normal world for my games

[wet breach]

You would want a world generator for larger scale though, like it affects the entire world space and even the dispersion of ores and biomes

[somber scarab]

well.. no I just want a small plot for each game. it can have slight variations but as long as it's not 1 for 1 like the previous game that's fine

[wet breach]

then chunk generator is fine for you and you don't even need to bother looking how MC does generation

just plug in some numbers and tweak till you are satisfied really

[rough drift]

I mean, there's a limit - if you can have the deobf sources I suggest go for it, they're far less energy taxing to read lol

[wet breach]

what limit would that be?

no matter how obfuscated it will never change how java does stuff

[rough drift]

If you're trying to read a really, really complex method it's easier to read it deobfuscated so your mind doesn't tire on mentally deobfuscating and you can instead just focus on reading the actual logic

[wet breach]

sure easier, but a method is a method

is a method something different because there is obfuscation?

[rough drift]

I never said it isn't, and I did say "it's less energy taxing" not "it's the only way"

[wet breach]

or does it still behave like any other method? the only difference is you have to deal with names I suppose which you can change if it really bothers you that much

my IDE has no problems following code

[sly topaz]

@somber scarab https://bukkit.fandom.com/wiki/Developing_a_World_Generator_Plugin#Generate_the_chunk.27s_heights_and_blocks there's this

I don't think it is up-to-date but most of what it says applies

[wet breach]

fun fact, I use a hex editor when there is heavy obfuscation to know what is going on or if I am too lazy to open up the jar with my IDE

[rough drift]

it behaves the same, but it's harder to read, because I() and i() are different methods but it's far harder to track them mentally than doSomething() and calculateOther()

your IDE can follow code, but it's not what needs to understand it. If you can make your life easier do it

there is no need to not use deobfuscation when it is available

it takes like <2 minutes

I think you're just not understanding the energy taxation required to understand obfuscated code at a fundamental level

[sly topaz]

that is rarely the only difference with heavy obfuscation

[rough drift]

why open up a hex editor when you can go gradle genSources (ex. fabric) and have named code that you can read easier

[wet breach]

because hexeditor is far quicker

and I don't use gradle

[rough drift]

fabric projects do usually but yk

ex (example)

[wet breach]

I don't use fabric obviously

or even remotely do anything with it

[rough drift]

yeah I don't think you got the

EXAMPLE. FABRIC.

part

[wet breach]

and I am telling you it was a poor example to back your argument when I don't use such things

[rough drift]

do you want me to list every single deobfuscator known to mankind?

examples exist

because

[sly topaz]

I don't understand what you would even do with an hex editor when it comes to jars, just read strings? Lol

[rough drift]

they are

EXAMPLES

[wet breach]

anyways, my recommendation still stands that if they want to look at stuff like obfuscated mc sources they should get used to being able to read obfuscated code

[rough drift]

also this

[wet breach]

instead of relying on some other software that isn't always available to do it for them

[wet breach]

Sometimes, but the layout of a jar is defined in terms where all the binary data should be at. So if I wanted to know how many classes there are, their names etc, there is predictable address points where they should be at

[rough drift]

replace with notepad also does the trick :P

I'm just saying, you don't have to be all "look at me I'm so good I use a hex editor to read jar files" (which btw, is an obvious lie because the only thing you'd see are strings as @sly topaz said)

[wet breach]

some stuff is in string format to read, typically stuff like class names etc

but the actual methods themselves in what they do are in bytecode format

[rough drift]

it's called .class file count, no need for a hex editor

• if you're reading class files there is this handy thing called javap

comes built in with java

javap -v classFile

or better

[wet breach]

does javap have explorer integration?

[rough drift]

javap -v -cp jarFile path

[sly topaz]

class names would be obfuscated so they wouldn't serve any use and they are not in predicatable address point in any heavily obfuscated software as they randomize the file structure in order to avoid people from guessing

[rough drift]

no, but why would you need explorer integration if you're reading a hex dump of a class? what are you? bad? lmao

[wet breach]

I can just right click open a jar in hex and read it from there ike

[rough drift]

^^

[wet breach]

what is your issue?

[rough drift]

it's that you're trying to look overly good by doing something excessively stupid lol

[wet breach]

you hate the fact that there is people who don't need all the frills or something fancy to do stuff?

[vast ledge]

I have a feeling frostalf is looking for a fight >.<

[rough drift]

I hate the fact that there are some people who can't stand looking like a normal person so they claim the most bs takes in order to put themselves on a pedestal of sand.

[rough drift]

real

[sly topaz]

tbf it wasn't frost who started the argument, Ike was but welp

[wet breach]

well I am not normal

[rough drift]

Didn't start a fight

[wet breach]

normal people don't do things that I have done 🙂

[vast ledge]

I ai t reading the 80dms

[wet breach]

No everyone is going to fit in that image box of yours just fyi. Normal doesn't exist

[vast ledge]

I have a feeling both of them want to be right and can't accept the others opinion

[wet breach]

it only exists in a group and only if that group agrees 😉

[rough drift]

I can tell, few people are going to tire themselves and be so confident they're better than everyone because they don't use normal tools :D

Also saying "I am not normal, normies don't do what I did" is exactly what someone who has done nothing spectacular would say to feel better about themselves.

[wet breach]

hex editor is a normal tool

[eternal night]

ike got rage baited

get rekt

[rough drift]

I mean idm

anything to procrastinate

[eternal night]

fair enough

[wet breach]

I don't need to feel better about myself, but if you say what I have done is normal, alright tell me you been in war?

[rough drift]

Hex editor is not a normal tool to read a class file, you can't deny that

[vast ledge]

Yes

Ever been constiz

Constipated

[wet breach]

not you -.-

[vast ledge]

That's a fuckng war

[rough drift]

No, because my government doesn't base itself off of being the big bad bear and spends hundreds of billions if not a trillion on war instead of the basic human needs of it's citizens which it exploits to fuel its war machine :P

[wet breach]

it is, just you consider it not a normal tool because you wouldn't think to consider using it. Anyways hexeditor is beyond your time obviously

[rough drift]

hex editors are useful, but if you think it's better to use one to read a class file instead of a tool specifically made for that you're delusional

[wet breach]

oh, so I am not normal then

[slender elbow]

clearly not

[wet breach]

because obviously you going to war and others around you isn't normal 🙂

[sly topaz]

Eh, if it comes down to java, javap is the common denominator

[rough drift]

you're very much normal in your country :P

[eternal night]

I'll consider myself a veteran after reading this convo

[wet breach]

far from it

[rough drift]

oh yeah? you seem very normal to me

[sly topaz]

an hex editor would've more useful with anything native, though not by far as when it comes to native + obfuscation it is even more cryptic

[wet breach]

Yeah you only know me from discord and text

[vast ledge]

This is starting to look like 2 children throwing shit at each other for no reason

[wet breach]

if you want to take that to mean normal go for it

but as I also said earlier normal also doesn't exist

[rough drift]

You're the extremely common over-confident American who claims to know everything because they've "done things others have not" just to feel special in their otherwise dull lifestyle :P

Met a few dozen already

[rough drift]

Sometimes I like to stoop down to the levels of the common American

It's very fun

[wet breach]

I have done things others haven't

[rough drift]

everyone has, it's called not being a single homogeneous entity.

[vast ledge]

I feel attacked as a fellow American by birth

[sly topaz]

it has been that way since the very beginning, nothing that frost said was particularly wrong, just maybe misguided for someone who is barely trying to understand world generation but alas. Ike also didn't say anything completely unreasonable in that regard, but it devolved into a discussion on whether frost is normal now lol

[vast ledge]

Ye idk bro

Looks like one of those fights a person with ADHD starts because they need entertainment and it's thrilling

[wet breach]

anyways, ikes debate is getting pointless, they think I care about my lifestyle

and whether or not it is dull

[worthy yarrow]

It’d be a lot less dull if you helped me haul some shit in eve :p

[somber scarab]

yo bedless

[vast ledge]

Ye

[rough drift]

Oh I'm just here for entertainment -- I genuinely do not care lol. I'm trying to get you to be madder so I can upkeep my free daily entertainment when procrastinating.

[wet breach]

you will have to wait till this weekend where I have a lot of time

or maybe tomorrow night

[rough drift]

It seemed to work for a bit

[somber scarab]

how u doin dude

[wet breach]

I also have to re-activate my subs

[somber scarab]

long time

[wet breach]

I don't get mad at things online

such a waste of energy over nothing

[rough drift]

you seem to be defending yourself a lot tho

[wet breach]

and that means mad?

[vast ledge]

Good HBU?

[wet breach]

man kids these days don't understand emotions

[rough drift]

Maybe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[worthy yarrow]

It’s all good, still waiting to see if juf might actually drop to lawless, we’re getting pretty hammered with the insurgency

[wet breach]

but it looks scary over there

with my big shiny ships

[worthy yarrow]

Not to these 40+ WT grid drops

[wet breach]

lol

[worthy yarrow]

They pray you come out in something shiny

[wet breach]

no the biggest issue is how long it will take to get my freighter there

its like 2-3 hours of straight jumping

[worthy yarrow]

Could always pull a red frog, name your ship for hauling and go autopilot kek

[wet breach]

oh yeah and lose like 5 bil

[rough drift]

#general

[worthy yarrow]

I mean

[somber scarab]

it's also just text on a screen.. you need annotations and sounds to understand alot more about emotion

[wet breach]

my point was more or less, why get mad at something online when I can just literally close out or just ignore it if I really want

like what would anyone do or could do?

[vast ledge]

Nah you did not just pull the "kids these days" card, what are you 60?

[wet breach]

since I have the control to not participate any moments notice, why bother getting mad?

[wet breach]

little more then half that age

[somber scarab]

any way to set the biomes list of the Biome Provider during WorldInitEvent?

look at me asking the good questions

oh wait it's an abstract method

ahhh

[somber scarab]

no.. I don't know...

this is weird BlockPopulator.getBiomes() needs WorldInfo as a parameter.

but during generation, I don't have the WorldInfo when Listening for WorldInitEvent

[grand flint]

I think it needs to be a datapack for the client

[somber scarab]

how so? can I not create a world that only has the one vanilla biome I want?

that's what I'm trying to do

[grand flint]

ohh vanilla biome ye probs

[sly topaz]

what are you using WorldInitEvent for

[somber scarab]

exactly, I'm not sure where I should do that..

taking a look at BiomeProvider https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/generator/BiomeProvider.html#getBiome(org.bukkit.generator.WorldInfo,int,int,int)

the only thing I see is getBiomes()

[sly topaz]

because you should be using WorldCreator + ChunkGenerator mostly

biomes don't really matter that much for custom chunk generators

[somber scarab]

yeah but I thought what If I go ahead and just a massive world that is just a garden biome

[sly topaz]

unless you want to register a custom biome for your generator, which you can do but since there is no API for it, it isn't really worth the effort

[sly topaz]

I am not sure I get what you mean

you mean, you want to override the biome provider so that only one biome is ever generated?

[somber scarab]

this

yes

[eternal oxide]

just do that in your own generator

[sly topaz]

you can set the biome provider in the WorldCreator

[somber scarab]

im yet to make my own generator

okay.. so I make a class MyBimeProvider extending BiomeProvider and pack it into a WorldCreator with a copy() of the normal world's options

[eternal oxide]

set teh provider as Javier said in the WorldCreator```java
BiomeProvider biomes = new BiomeProvider() {

    @Override
    public List<Biome> getBiomes(WorldInfo worldInfo) {

        return Collections.singletonList(Biome.DESERT);
    }

    @Override
    public Biome getBiome(WorldInfo worldInfo, int x, int y, int z) {

        return Biome.DESERT;
    }
};```

[somber scarab]

so that it's a vnially world with just one biome

[sly topaz]

Elgar beat me to writing the example lol

public SingleBiomeProvider extends BiomeProvider {
  public static final BiomeProvider INSTANCE = new SingleBiomeProvider();

  private final Biome biome;
  private final List<Biome> biomes;

  public SingleBiomeProvider(Biome biome) {
    this.biome = biome;
    biomes = List.of(biome);
  }

  public SingleBiomeProvider() {
    this(Biome.PLAINS);
  }

  @Override
  public Biome
getBiome(WorldInfo worldInfo, int x, int y, int z) {
    return biome;
  }

  @Override
  public List<Biome> getBiomes(WorldInfo info) {
    return biomes;
  }
}

...
var worldCreator = new WorldCreator("some_world")
  .biomeProvider(SingleBiomeProvider.INSTANCE)
  .createWorld();

I was about finished

[blazing ocean]

peak formatting

[somber scarab]

yeah but that means I need my own World Creator and by extention, waht I'm doing it making my own World Creator not Chunk Generator

if I understand correctly?

[eternal oxide]

I only had to open my IDE as I already had it written 🙂

[sly topaz]

are you not creating a world?

because if you are, you are going to use WorldCreator

[somber scarab]

I guess I am lmao

[sly topaz]

if you are trying to set the biome provider of the default world(s), you'd do it at world init the same way, though you'd have to use NMS as Spigot doesn't have API for modifying an existing world's biome provider

[somber scarab]

NameSpace?

whats NMS

[sly topaz]

it is short for net.minecraft.server

but it really just refers to minecraft internals

[somber scarab]

ah I see

nah I'll just make a new world

[sly topaz]

actually it seems like Spigot does support setting the biome provider/generator of the default world, I just didn't know of it lol

[somber scarab]

huh??

[sly topaz]

you just have to override JavaPlugin#getDefaultBiomeProvider in your plugin I believe

though I am unsure of how that works with multiple plugins overriding it

[somber scarab]

either way it is not what I want since I don't want my plugin to destroy anyone's servers

but ima try it anyways now

[outer elk]

is canceling to block fade event will do lag?
example i have a map and i have tons of a coral blocks outside of water

[drowsy helm]

try it and see

[thorn isle]

i do recall some people running into performance issues after using worldguard to prevent leaves on some custom map from despawning

but worldguard has to actually check whether something intersects a region before it can cancel it, and iirc that does a nonnegligible amount of memory allocation

so just blanket-cancelling all fade events on certain block types should perform better

[umbral ridge]

how do you get the blockstate from a Block?

im trying to make the redstone lamp powered on / off

i guess i have to go for blockState right to achieve this right

Hi Choco

[worldly ingot]

Are they not different blocks entirely?

If not, it's a block with a state, i.e. a Bukkit BlockData

[umbral ridge]

they used to be, REDSTONE_LAMP_POWERED_ON and OFF or something but not anymore

[worldly ingot]

Yeah, it's a Lightable

[umbral ridge]

great

[worldly ingot]

Lightable lightable = (Lightable) block.getBlockData();
lightable.setLit(true);
block.setBlockData(lightable);

[umbral ridge]

ty very much

im making a bank system where player can join a bank and an actual vault is generated for them, physically in the world, harry-potter style XD

and there is 1 switch to turn all vault lights on and off, to light up an entire cave and enterance to the vaults

each player vault has its own switch too

[thorn isle]

neat

[outer elk]

i can't but what you think for this?

[thorn isle]

what's the number of blocks that are trying to fade that are loaded in block ticking chunks on average?

[drowsy helm]

Most likely not

But depends on how many blocks yours talking about

[robust helm]

what event do I cancel to disallow placing/breaking item frames?

also for interacting with chest minecarts

for the minecarts im cancelling PlayerInteractAtEntityEvent rn but that doesnt seem to work;

[young knoll]

PlayerInteractEntityEvent

[robust helm]

damn i thought thats an interafec

do i replace the PlayerInteractAtEntityEvent with it or keep both?

[young knoll]

Replace

[robust helm]

alrrr

seems to fix all issues except with item frames, ty!!

or rather only item frame breaking

HangingBreakByEntityEvent did the job :)

[fathom dirge]

Any NMS gods here that could help me out? I'm creating a plugin to let the user create custom vanilla enchantments. It works fine, but on reload I'm getting some errors that I don't know how to fix/interpret. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Can't send any code or errors here so just let me know if anyone can help i'll send you the errors over.

[wispy egret]

hey how do I begin with making plugins?

[outer elk]

100k

[fathom dirge]

Learn Java basics, then follow Spigot tutorials

[chrome beacon]

Send the error in a paste

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[fathom dirge]

So this is the client error i get when i reload the server and a player tries to join afterwords: https://paste.md-5.net/bivojizowa.sql

And this is the error i get in the server when reloading: https://paste.md-5.net/foberohamo.bash

When i didn't reregister my plugins in the Registries on reload the enchantments actually kept working and most other functionality as well, but when a player logged out and back in he did get the first client Network Protocol Error posted above.

[umbral ridge]

that's a new thing

[chrome beacon]

Yeah

[umbral ridge]

Interesting

[fathom dirge]

The problem is probably the exclusive sets not begin registered again, but I dont know how i would go about doing that:
minecraft:root/minecraft:enchantment: Unbound tags in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:enchantment]: [minecraft:exclusive_set/excavator, minecraft:exclusive_set/lumber, minecraft:exclusive_set/replenish, minecraft:exclusive_set/sneak, minecraft:exclusive_set/telekinesis]

[chrome beacon]

The client and server do not like registries being modified while running

[fathom dirge]

Yeah I know sadly...

[chrome beacon]

The server is fixable with some reflection but you might have to kick the player

[thorn isle]

you can try un-freezing and then freezing the registry again but god only knows what the client will do

[chrome beacon]

^

[fathom dirge]

What does freezing and unfreezing actually mean btw?

Like what does it actually do

[thorn isle]

basically pretty early on in the startup sequence the registries are "frozen", preventing any modification to them

[chrome beacon]

Registries are frozen to prevent people from writing to them

[thorn isle]

precisely because the clients (and possibly other internal state) might go out of sync if you modify them willy nilly

[chrome beacon]

unfreezing is just a hack to make them writable again

which as vcs2 said can cause issues but it's your best bet

[thorn isle]

come to think of it, does /minecraft:reload kick clients back into the configuration protocol state to resync the registries?