help-development

[thorn isle]

it also means that the first lookup can't discriminate recipes that use two different types of stone in the bottom row

so if any such recipe exists, i will recurse the process and rebuild the token key mappings for that subset of recipes

[young knoll]

Uhh

My brain hurt now

[ivory sleet]

yea thats usually the way to go

u might be able to be a bit clever and do some (shorthand) trickery

[thorn isle]

looking at my old benchmark, it looks like all of the recipes at the time, except wooden slabs, wooden pressure plates, wooden gates, wooden doors, wooden stairs, boats, were found in a single lookup

some slabs and some stone stairs and walls also required a second lookup

in all these cases, since there aren't any material tags involved anymore, it degenerates just to effectively a lookup by material[] key

for shapeless recipes, everything was always resolved in a single lookup

i'm not sure if any shapeless recipe uses material tags

[iron night]

hm, what if we build a tree such that root contains every recipes, edges are materials (not tags) and the deeper you go - the more splits of original set of recipes from root happen (depth is index of item in grid from 1 to 9 which we observe to split at some vertex). since total splits are = amount of recipes (lets call it n). there will be O(n) vertices in tree. every vertex containing a set of O(n) recipes. Since we have material tags there will be multi-edges, considering that lets call maximum of materials a single ingredient can cover over all recipes = m. Then preprocess to build such tree is O(nn + nm) which should be pretty fast. Height of tree will be 9 or less. Since tree already uses O(nn) memory we can store O(k) array in every vertex where k - amount of materials in the game and array will be storing references to vertices we should go next with this material in a slot. Resulting preprocess is O(nn + nm + nk) but we always get the recipe from grid in 9 tree jumps which is O(1) and since we store O(k) array in every vertex jumps should be fast so it might actually be faster than 1 hashmap lookup (my intuition tells me 1 hashmap lookup is about 20 array lookups)

[thorn isle]

sounds solid at a glance

only way to know for sure is to benchmark it

[proven fern]

Why nerd talk @iron night ?

[iron night]

i mean im almost sure lookups are gonna be way faster. the only problem is preprocessing, im afraid it can take something like 10% of server bootup time which seems a lot

[iron night]

you dont have to read it if you dont want to

[thorn isle]

an issue with such a huge data structure becomes cache locality; hashing into a small hashmap can be faster than accessing a huge array (like a material enummap)

[iron night]

isnt getting ordinal of enum fast?

[thorn isle]

it is, it's essentially just a field read

[iron night]

well then i dont get you

[thorn isle]

but indexing into an array at a position that has to be fetched from main memory is slow

conversely a hashmap with a small table is more likely to already be in some cache tier in its entirety

[iron night]

still dont get it, isnt it just an ordinary array lookup by index?

[thorn isle]

whether that's actually slower or faster than computing the hashcode on it is anyone's guess really

well... a hashmap is an ordinary array, but we use the hash code of an object as the index

[iron night]

i dont think computing hashcode is the most time-expensive part of lookup

not sure

[thorn isle]

depends a bit on what we define as "lookup", but if it's map.get(), it's basically hashcode + array index for key & value, and comparing the keys

look i'm just saying that indexing into a lookup table of 1 million elements is probably slower than hashing into a hashmap of 16 elements

because as cpus have gotten faster and faster by orders of magnitude, memory hasn't gotten that much faster

[iron night]

there isnt array of 1mil elements, there is 1000 of arrays with length 1000 if this makes a diff

i dont know what for i said this

[thorn isle]

roughly the same thing but it all depends

benchmark it and we'll see

guesstimatine memory latency and how many clock cycles a hashcode is just piss in the wind at the end of the day

for the startup time issue, you could do it async in the background

start it in say plugin load and then block for the result in onenable

[iron night]

i mean im not implementing it, just was interested to share the algorithm i came up with

i didnt fully get how your solution works, is it heuristics?

[thorn isle]

it's uh

so the problem with material tags is that we have multiple keys that we want to map to a given value

the naïve solution to this is to just have a mapping for each key

but this breaks down when your key is a composite of multiple keys

take for example the furnace recipe, which accepts i think cobblestone, blackstone, and deepslate, and spans 8 slots (all except the center slot)

to produce all the for this, we'd need 3^8 mappings

[iron night]

its n^8 where n is matching materials yeah i get it

[thorn isle]

so instead of doing that, we have an intermediate step where we have 3 mappings for cobble, blackstone, and deepslate, and have them map into a "token key"

and then we compose those token keys into the recipe matrix query

so, no matter which type of stone you put in any of the slots, the token keys for each slot and hence the composite key of them will be the same, and we get the same result

for materials not part of any material tag, there is only 1 intermediate mapping, from that material to a "token key" unique to that material

while materials part of one or more material tags get mapped into the same "token key" as any other material in the tag

in this way we can map a very large amount of inputs to a single output

the downside is that some inputs which we don't want to map to that output will also be mapped to that output

taking the furnace example again, since both cobblestone and blackstone map to the same token key, then the composite key for both cobblestone slab and blackstone slab will be identical, so we can't tell those apart

so i iterate over all recipes, collect recipes like these into sets, and then i recurse the process for them by rebuilding the token mappings with only the material tags actually involved

since neither cobblestone slab nor blackstone slab uses any material tags in the recipe, there are no material tags in this context; every material will map to an unique token key, and we can now tell the two recipes apart

[iron night]

how do we understand whether should we map to cobble/black/deep token used in furnace recipe or unique token used in cobble slab if we dont know what we crafting yet

[thorn isle]

we first try the intermediate mappings that were created from every material tag

so when crafting a cobblestone slab, we first produce the composite key that maps to both cobble and blackstone slab

then we look at the result of that query; we see that it maps to multiple things

and then we repeat the process, but now we use the intermediate mappings created from every material tag in the cobble and blackstone slab recipes (i.e. none)

and then we get the cobblestone slab

it's essentially a tree, just 99% of the edges point at a leaf

for the ones that map into multiple recipes, there's a node and it recurses

[iron night]

okay, but what is there was recipe that requires #1 or #2 and recipe that requires #1 or #3. and we had 3 materials matching #1, #2 and #3 (9 total). what tokens will be created then?

[thorn isle]

by #1 etc. do you refer to material tags?

or materials

[iron night]

kinda

material tags

[thorn isle]

can you give a more concrete example, i can't really see that working out

[iron night]

the problem is i cant give concrete example

i couldnt find recipes where such things happen

my question is does your algo absuses the fact that such things dont happen or can it solve them too

[thorn isle]

it'll only fail to converge if there are multiple recipes that could match a given input

e.g. if you define a recipe that accepts any of a single block and turns it into a button

and then you also define a recipe that accepts 2 of a single block and turns it onto a pressure plate

this will fail to converge

but the current nms recipe matcher will also give you a random one of the two

because it's ambiguous

[iron night]

ohhh

i got it

[iron night]

such things actually dont happen, i just made up some non existent scenario

[thorn isle]

i did think about this at the time and i was going to write a third node type that just returns a random one if there's such an ambiguity, but it doesn't seem like vanilla has any, so i didn't bother

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[thorn isle]

off the top of my head i think that'll be difficult

[iron night]

or wait what.
what if there is a recipe that accepts 2 item 1 of which should be #1 (cobble/black/deep) or #2 (oak/birch) and second is just anything dirt for example
and second recipe that accepts 1 item that should be #1 (cobble/black/deep) or #3 (stone/basalt)
you map every item in grid to its token right?
what token cobble will be mapped to

[thorn isle]

i skimmed over this for sake of brevity, but the intermediate key mappings are per-slot

so in this case, although the intermediate key for the first slot will be the same for both of the inputs, the second slot will be different

[iron night]

recipe 1 item 1 - slot 1
recipe 1 item 2 - slot 2
recipe 2 item 1 - slot 1

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[iron night]

so everything from #1 or #2 or #3 will be mapped to single token for slot 1?

[thorn isle]

none of those tags overlap, so each of tags 1 2 and 3 will map to an unique intermediate key

e,g, cobble,black,deep might map to token 0

oak,birch to token 1

stone,basalt to token 2

[iron night]

but then you will have to create key with token 0 and key with token 1 for recipe 1 which is bad?

[thorn isle]

recipe 1 is what again?

[iron night]

slot 1 - accepts cobble/black/deep or oak/birch, slot 2 - dirt

so youll have to create keys:

• slot 1: token 0, slot 2: dirt -> recipe 1
• slot 1: token 1, slot 2: dirt -> recipe 1
  no?

[thorn isle]

that's not possible in the recipe matcher, you can't accept material tag 1 or material tag 2

what you can do is merge the material tags together and use it as a new material tag

[iron night]

so 1 recipechoice is only 1 material tag or what?

[thorn isle]

yeah

so what you're saying is that recipe 1 requires cobble/black/deep/oak/birch in slot 1

and oak/birch in slot 2

this means that for slot 1, all of cobble/black/deep/oak/birch will map to token 0

[iron night]

and if recipe 2 requires cobble/black/deep/stone/basalt in slot 1
and nothing in slot 2

[thorn isle]

then the recipes are discriminated by the virtue of there being nothing in slot 2 or not

[iron night]

but you map some token for slot 1?

[thorn isle]

same token whether or not there is anything in other slots, yes

but the composite keys will be 0,null if there is nothing in the second slot, and 0,? if there is something

[iron night]

so cobble/black/deep/oak/birch/stone/basalt -> token 0?

[thorn isle]

no because nothing in tag #3 (stone/basalt) overlaps with the other tag

stone/basalt will continue to map to token 1

if it were cobble/stone/basalt then they'd all be merged into one tag and be assigned token 0

[iron night]

okay okay. but if we say that #1 is (cobble/stone/deep/oak/birch) and #2 is (cobble/stone/deep/stone/basalt)
and recipe 1 is slot 1 - #1, slot 2 - dirt
and recipe 2 is slot 1 - #2, slot 2 - nothing
then cobble/stone/deep/oak/birch/stone/basalt all to token 0?

now #1 and #2 overlap

[thorn isle]

myeah

[iron night]

hm.
but if there:
recipe 1: slot 1 - #1 (stone/cobble)
recipe 2: slot 1 - #2(cobble/oak), slot 2 - dirt
recipe 3: slot 1 - #3(oak/birch)

#1 and #2 overlap, #2 and #3 overlap.
so stone/cobble/oak/birch all go to token 0?

if so, the same tokens will be generated if we put 1 stone in grid and 1 oak in grid, but they are different recipes

[thorn isle]

in the first iteration yes, inserting any of stone/cobble/oak/birch into the first slot will all be mapped to token 0

recipe 2 will be discriminated during first iteration by whether slot 2 has dirt in it or not

if it doesn't, we go to second iteration with only recipes 1 and 3

and now the only relevant tags are #1 and #3, which don't overlap

so in the second iteration we can discriminate between recipes 1 and 3

but you could make this a pathologic case by also adding cobble into tag #3

this'd mean that even in the second iteration, the tags have to be merged because they both contain cobble

and it'll fail to converge

in this case you can fall back to comparing the recipes one by one as vanilla does

[iron night]

but this is impossible, then putting cobble in grid matches 2 recipes, so everything is fine

[thorn isle]

myeah, that's what i meant earlier when i said uh

what did i say

[thorn isle]

this

[iron night]

yeah

[thorn isle]

that said the argument could be made that it should still work for e.g. when you put in stone and correctly match recipe 1, and for birch correctly match recipe 3, and only fail for cobble which could match either or

but i think defining overlapping recipes is probably programmer error anyway, so whatever

[iron night]

recipe 1: slot 1: b/c, slot 2: c/d
recipe 2: slot 1: a/b, slot 2: a/b
recipe 3: slot 1: c/d/e, slot 2: a/e
recipe 4: slot 1: d/e, slot 2: b/c
seems like in this example for every pair of recipes its impossible to put ingredients in a way so it matches multiple recipes, but at the same time all tags at slot 1 are merged and all tags at slot 2 are merged meaning we cant throw away any of recipes to go to the next iteration

this is example constructed by hand so its only 4 recipes but who know if there are such example but with 400 recipes, meaning we wont be able to throw any of them away and will still have to iterate through every of them which is O(n)

[thorn isle]

it definitely can degenerate like this, but i'm not sure how probable seeing something pathological like this in the wild would be

[iron night]

so its heuristics

it wasnt that easy to come up with such example so ig its fine

[thorn isle]

with some thought, the merging logic could probably be adjusted to prevent runaway merging like this with all the tags being merged, but it didn't show up in my tests so i didn't bother

[young knoll]

Use ai to determine what the output should be based on the ingredients

It makes up something not in the game? Have it generate a sprite for it and then use that to serve a resource pack to the client for their new item

[crude zephyr]

okay ive done this

now what should i follow to start my first plugin

[wraith delta]

a youtube video

[quaint mantle]

Holdon

Shouldn't the thing have

onEnable() and onDisable() ?

[wraith delta]

yup lol

[crude zephyr]

you got a suggestion?

[crude zephyr]

idk what this means

[sly topaz]

do you know anything about Java

[quaint mantle]

Just use the minecraft development plugin which is on IJ

[crude zephyr]

ive coded in json and some other things

python

and whatever QMK uses

[quaint mantle]

It does most of things for you

[crude zephyr]

i was told not to

[quaint mantle]

I really thought I was that outdated 😭

[quaint mantle]

How come?

[sly topaz]

?learnjava

[undone axle]

For Beginners:

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[quaint mantle]

woah buddy

[sly topaz]

do any of those courses before starting

[quaint mantle]

That's not nice

I was trying to help 😔

[crude zephyr]

i would prefer someone helping me yes

[sly topaz]

a quick java course is going to help you understand what you're doing

[quaint mantle]

@blazing ocean I thought it was okay for beginners?!

[sly topaz]

it really doesn't take that long, a few hours tops and you'll probably be good for the rest just by checking the wikis on the forums

[quaint mantle]

Also stackoverflow

[sly topaz]

the minecraft development plugin is good for fabric mods, but they haven't updated their bukkit plugin side of things in a while so it is kinda annoying

better to just not use it

[crude zephyr]

im getting mixed answers

[quaint mantle]

It's fine for me cause I use 1.8

Follow whatever rad and the other dude mentioned

[crude zephyr]

okay @blazing ocean , can you dm me if your free to tutor me

[quaint mantle]

Just use google

[sly topaz]

nobody is going to personally tutor you for free, hence why I recommend just doing a course

[quaint mantle]

Some of them mostly argue about using paper instead of spigot 😭

[wraith delta]

firstly, look for a video on setting up a project for spigot coding. then go ahead and research about what features you want

[sly topaz]

learning about java through some outdated spigot plugin development video 😭

[wraith delta]

for development, you need to get inn a habit of googling

[quaint mantle]

KodySimpson

10/10

Unless md_5 has a youtube channel

🤔

[crude zephyr]

all videos ive seen say to use the minecraft plugin

[wraith delta]

when someone is starting from nothing, its best to at least know that you need onEnable

[crude zephyr]

and i was told by rad not to

[sly topaz]

when someone is starting from nothing, it's best that they start by learning the language constructs first rather than going straight into plugin development

[quaint mantle]

Also, why is your package called org.example ?

[wraith delta]

using the spigot api is a lot easier to get started than straight java

[crude zephyr]

good question
i dont know what to call it

[quaint mantle]

your.domain.something

io.github.ilikecheese

something like that

[sly topaz]

I understand the need to try and do things heads-on, but sadly there are no good courses that are hyper-focused on both learning the language as well as plugin development in of itself so one has to go one step at the time, and the proper first step is learning the language. Otherwise they're just going to be stuck here asking inane questions for a good while before they actually get the hang of things

[crude zephyr]

i dont own a domain or a website

i havent used github in years

[quaint mantle]

isn't io.github free ?

[wraith delta]

dont need it, dont worry about it. you can name it whatever you want

[quaint mantle]

yeah

[crude zephyr]

sure

[sly topaz]

?conventions

[undone axle]

https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase/codeconventions-namingconventions.html

[wraith delta]

try com.traders

[quaint mantle]

I'm not sure how gradle works but in pom, you gotta change the groupId

And then the plugin.yml

[wraith delta]

dont know if it supports numbers tho, that could be why its underlined?

[quaint mantle]

artifactId supports number iirc

[crude zephyr]

its a red unerline with or without the 5

[wraith delta]

to the left is the package the Main is under also called traders?

[quaint mantle]

package name can contain numbers

[crude zephyr]

uhh

[wraith delta]

Sorry but theres going to be so many questions to be asked. It would be best to find a video online such as youtube which shows how to set up a project for spigot development. Everyone does things differently, so you may need to watch a couple.

[crude zephyr]

i wouldnt mind that

all videos ive found tho are using the minecraft plugin plugin maker

which i was told not to do

[wraith delta]

eclipse or intellij is fine

[sly topaz]

that's because most videos are outdated, just do one of the courses

[wraith delta]

For sure, scroll through the videos and make sure the date is earlier than 3 years

[sly topaz]

they're gonna end up following mineacademy videos from youtube, and that never ends well

[wraith delta]

If you are still looking at this chat, watch the video first before copying. if you like the result then go back and follow it.

[crude zephyr]

ugh this one uses intellij instead of gradle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqxcyK_YgOE

[blazing ocean]

IJ build system?

Wouldn't expect that from kody simpson

or whatever his name was

[crude zephyr]

yeah it was from them

hi rad

[sly topaz]

they do compilation with maven in a different video

don't know why since 99% of the time you won't have to care about how the IDE-specific build system works but welp

[blazing ocean]

why can't people make good tutorials for once

[wraith delta]

the video is great. go ahead and follow it. start again with a new project following the video. dont worry about the gradle and whatever, there is many ways of creating a plugin. For now, go the simple route with the video

[sly topaz]

I would if I had a good PC to film it but I fear I'd start using my processor as a stove if I were to record while coding in an IDE and also having a minecraft instance as well as a server running on the background

[sly topaz]

you're sending them in for a loop instead of just following the course which will get them a much more rounded education

[wraith delta]

I feel that they are a hands on learner, would prefer someone guiding as well. While a course could help, it may be a lot to take in at once. The spigot api is quite easy, with only a few lines of code

[crude zephyr]

my dyslexic ass does like learning via trial and error

[sly topaz]

hands on learner just means someone who doesn't wanna spend the time to read, and that won't do when it comes to programming

you get to not read when you're proficient enough to not have to

[blazing ocean]

hmm I have the resources to do so but I'm incredibly bad at teaching things lmao

[wraith delta]

That is totally fine. The hardest part here is going to be making sure that project is set up right. Watching the video carefully and doing research on google will help.

[sly topaz]

I understand the sentiment of trying to help, but sending them to the wolves and just expecting someone else to take the reigns after you leave them with half-directions is irresponsible at best

[crude zephyr]

cool ill restart following the video

[crude zephyr]

feels like your trying to start a fight ngl

[sly topaz]

I am not fighting them, however I am starting an argument since I feel strongly about the matter at hand. Unrelated to your situation as you've already decided what to do, though

you're free to continue with the video or whatever, hopefully that works out great for you

[wraith delta]

Sounds great! If you notice any errors, you can try typing that in google before coming here to ask. No matter how advanced you are in coding, you will always end up researching stuff

[crude zephyr]

yee

ive had to alot when fixing plugins and stuff for the minecraft server im setting up

[sly topaz]

I did try to make an interactive tutorial/playground at one point, but I can't even begin to imagine just how much effort it'd be to emulate a minecraft server inside a site to do that

[quaint mantle]

It's okay for beginners

[sly topaz]

I guess with wasm being at the state it is now, maybe it'd be possible to just run it all on the client and hope for the best

[quaint mantle]

We should ask md_5 to make tutorial vids ngl

[wraith delta]

I dont think there can be a perfect tutorial. People learn differently and perceive info uniquely. A teacher would have to make a couple videos of the same output but seperate methods

Some users have bad comprehension in text. While some have trouble following visuals and must read over and over.

[crude zephyr]

theres no JavaPlugin

[wet breach]

This is why you teach by common denominator

[crude zephyr]

exactly
when i was in highschool i had a teacher who would sit down with me every other lunchtime and we would code snake game together
but we called it worm game and coloured it pink

[wet breach]

if the bar for comprehension is low, then you must teach so that the level of comprehension doesn't matter

[wraith delta]

the code is fine, you may be missing the spigot api or a setup step.

[crude zephyr]

i used the same spigot jar file as my minecraft server

i thought that was what i was ment to do

im dumb

sorry

[wraith delta]

That is not the one to use, there is a specific jar for development

[crude zephyr]

oh ok

time to restart again 😢

[wraith delta]

you dont need to restart the project again, just need to setup that dependency

[wet breach]

either would work, the one for development just doesn't contain the server code which generally you are wanting, but the server jar contains the api as well. Issue might be setting up the dependency properly so that the IDE can import properly

or the dependency is set properly just missing imports

can't tell from the picture alone other then missing imports

[wraith delta]

keep the project you have, just watch the video again looking for where he installs the development jar

[crude zephyr]

ok
so uhh the link in the description in the video didnt take me to the page they got there pluginapi from

[wraith delta]

the plugin api comes from the buildtools. https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/buildtools/

[crude zephyr]

oh ive used build tools before

thats how i made the server.jar

[wet breach]

they could just download it too

spigotmc hosts the api jar

just not the server jar

[wraith delta]

link?

[crude zephyr]

yes link would be helpfull

[orchid brook]

loopPlayer.stopSound("atlantis_sounds:music.crabe_event");
Why this isn't working ?

[wet breach]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/service/rest/repository/browse/snapshots/org/spigotmc/spigot-api/

[crude zephyr]

link worked!

which one most recent
i dont see a date

[wet breach]

go with the one with the highest number at the end

[crude zephyr]

so 32

[wet breach]

the number at the end is the build number

[wraith delta]

yes

[crude zephyr]

right

aw fuck now theres 12 options

[wet breach]

the numbers after r0.1 is the date

just fyi

[wraith delta]

try that one first

[crude zephyr]

ok

[wet breach]

it might be better if you use maven build system to manage dependencies and to build

using that setting window you would need to use ant to build

not a problem for beginning or a small project

but once you need to start shading may be wise to switch to maven

[wraith delta]

you are doing great so far. after those settings are saved, is the red gone from the code?

[crude zephyr]

it worked

spark your amazing

[wraith delta]

perfect! you are all setup!

continue that video, the project is fine so far.

[wet breach]

and soon another MC Java developer will be born to wreck havoc in the world of plugins

[wraith delta]

In that code, you will need a function called onEnable be sure to look for that in the video. every plugin will need that

[crude zephyr]

does it auto save

[wraith delta]

That will do! make sure to get the plugin.yml finished, the video might mention it - if not then watch a different one for creating a plugin.

[crude zephyr]

yep thats the next step\

[wraith delta]

to be safe, you can always press CTRL+S

[crude zephyr]

yee i have been

been doing it my whole life

since i was 10

[wraith delta]

haha, good habit to have

[crude zephyr]

omg that was 10 years ago

im OLD

😢

[wraith delta]

time flies

[crude zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/fly-insect-bug-evil-plot-gif-5650927

[wraith delta]

get back to that video. you are doing good

[wet breach]

you can be happy to know, you are not the oldest in this discord server

[crude zephyr]

im sure theres someone 3x older

[blazing ocean]

almost!

[mortal vortex]

20 is not old gng

[vast ledge]

Man you almost fossil fuel at that point

[mortal vortex]

played WoW on Discord with a 60 year old dude once

i was like... 11?

[wraith delta]

that said, dont forget to take breaks, go outside. enjoy the time you have while you still have it

[vast ledge]

So now you're 30?

Dayum

I got blocked

[mortal vortex]

what? me?

[vast ledge]

Yea

[mortal vortex]

no??

This was a couple years ago man

[vast ledge]

So you a dinosaur?

[mortal vortex]

gang... i was born in 09

[vast ledge]

Sounds like programming traps you in an depressing cage

[vast ledge]

Dayum I'm older than u tf

[wet breach]

only if you allow it

[mortal vortex]

dinosaur

[vast ledge]

Stfu

[blazing ocean]

elgar is a dinosaur

[mortal vortex]

u cant swear here dude.

against rules

[vast ledge]

What does that mean the cage or being older??

Should I kill him or what?

[wraith delta]

well if you arent making memories, that day is erased from your time, forgotten. you cant get that day back

[wet breach]

well, can't say your freedom would last if you do this

but, the being caged unless someone is physically caging you then I guess that is a bit different

[vast ledge]

I mean that's only if they catch you, and as an experienced killer I'd know Abt that

[wet breach]

o.O

do I smell a potential nemesis

[vast ledge]

The memories of the frigging stack overflow in line 133 in CustomItem.java?

[vast ledge]

Maybe, depends

[blazing ocean]

The memories of a stackoverflow in my text builder

[vast ledge]

Are you a fan of killing?

[wet breach]

some would say I am

[vast ledge]

Hehe, pain

[wet breach]

if they could still talk that is

[vast ledge]

Hm I see

Ah yes

Many could account for my skills, if they weren't in my stomach._.

[wet breach]

well fortunately as far as rations go I wasn't desperate enough for cannibalism

[vast ledge]

A bit of salt and pepper and some bbq sauce, and they taste fine

[crude zephyr]

@wraith delta :)

[vast ledge]

I hope nobody ever does a background check on me and sees any of my messages

[wraith delta]

looking awesome! keep it up, dont forget to go outside tho! development will get you stuck!

[vast ledge]

Ayy is it simple homes or dream death

[crude zephyr]

dream death

now i need to figure out how to code what i want

[vast ledge]

I've forgotten to go outside for the past 8 years what you gna do Abt it

[crude zephyr]

how tf do i do that 😭

[vast ledge]

What do you wanna do

[crude zephyr]

when player dies
says "You woke up from a Bad Dream"

[wraith delta]

i did as well, but im beginning to see how fast time flies and ive been doing a lot outside. just think, if your screen broke and you have nothing...

[vast ledge]

There are events

Look into those

You'd have to look if there's a specific one for player awake or smth

[blazing ocean]

?eventapi

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/

[wraith delta]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerRespawnEvent.html

this one probably for the awakening

[vast ledge]

Respawn?

[wraith delta]

the PlayerDeathEvent happens too early

[vast ledge]

Oh frick my brain screwed me

I read woke up and thought they were talking Abt a sleeping related event

[wraith delta]

nah its not you, ive lost my mind trying to do stuff with PlayerDeathEvent and it not working, turning out that its just too early

[vast ledge]

Does player respawn still trigger if players dies, disconnects, and then rejoins?

[crude zephyr]

i have instent respawn on so it dosent matter

instint

insent

imediate

[vast ledge]

Ye then u can u respawn without worry

[vast ledge]

Instant

[crude zephyr]

yee that word

[vast ledge]

Just look into how an event listener is made and then adapt it for your use case!

[wraith delta]

pretty much yea, learn about the events. ideally start with PlayerJoinEvent that one is one of the easy ones and youll know it works

@EventHandler
public void testJoin(PlayerJoinEvent e)
{
  Player p = e.getPlayer().getName();
  p.sendMessage("welcome");
}
```should look similar to this

[crude zephyr]

i copyed that in and it came up all red (yes ill edit it)

[blazing ocean]

You'll need imports

Hover over such a red symbol and it should suggest importing it

[wraith delta]

after the imports, where it says Player p = event, change that to e. i wrote it in discord so didnt catch that mistake lol

for future reference tho in the function line after PlayerJoinEvent you can name it whatever you want instead of e

[wraith delta]

look at it again

[crude zephyr]

why is event red

or is it green

im colour blind XD

looks red to me

[blazing ocean]

There's probably some colourblind themes for IJ, and yes, it is red

[wraith delta]

Player p = e.getPlayer().getName(); the p is just a variable that you can name anything

[blazing ocean]

I'd recommend learning java first

[wraith delta]

its the "event" part thats the mistake I had, it needs to match the word after PlayerJoinEvent

[blazing ocean]

remove that getName

[wraith delta]

thats correct, but i wonder if they removed getname

[wraith delta]

its to get the username. maybe getUsername(); ?

[blazing ocean]

why are you trying to assign a player to a username

[wraith delta]

yes that

[blazing ocean]

?eventapi now read this

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/

[wraith delta]

1am for me, i see what you mean now XD

[crude zephyr]

thats alot of reading
also black text on white is so hard to read

but ill try look through it

[blazing ocean]

you can use dark reader

it's a browser plugin that makes sites use dark mode (even if badly often times)

[wraith delta]

at the bottom of the spigot page theres a theme option for dark mode

[blazing ocean]

that's only for donators though right

[wraith delta]

is it?

[blazing ocean]

because I do not have any other themes I can select

[wraith delta]

oh, darn

[crude zephyr]

pay to win 😭

[wraith delta]

i do have donator tho, just didnt know that was a perk since its so long ago

if it makes you feel any better, its still hard to read the code in dark mode XD

[crude zephyr]

it didnt say "Welcome To QuinsimeSMP"

[vast ledge]

Did u register it?

[crude zephyr]

idk what that means

[random compass]

try delaying by 1 tick

[vast ledge]

Did you create a class for ur eventhandler or is it in ur main class

[crude zephyr]

this is all the code lmao

[vast ledge]

Okay

Normally you would create a separate class for events which is called an event handler but to keep it simple let's keep it in the main class

[random compass]

you havnt implemented listener

[vast ledge]

You'll need to add implements Listener behind the extends JavaPlugin

[random compass]

im just gonna shut up, sry 🙂

[vast ledge]

xD

[random compass]

sry ive been learning java for 2 weeks and suddenly i think im an expert

[crude zephyr]

i have no idea how to do that 🥰

[vast ledge]

Then in your onLoad() you needs to do smth like Bukkit.getServer().register listener or smth

[random compass]

you put it after extends java plugin like that

[wraith delta]

Like George’s pic, add the implements Listener

And then register the event in the on enable

[random compass]

ima be real, if you ask chat gpt to code it you get pretty good code. then u can just learn from what it wrote

thats what im doing to learn

or just ask it to tell u how to fix errors

[wraith delta]

If you are logged in and using model 4o, yes it’s pretty good

[vast ledge]

I have some example code, but it uses a separate event handler class, and you'd need to ignore a bunch of jargon you don't need to know yet

[buoyant viper]

rotten flesh to leather 👀

[crude zephyr]

sorry im lost
i need to install... what exactly?
import org.bukkit.xxx

[random compass]

its not just that lol

[vast ledge]

You don't gotta install anything

[crude zephyr]

bruh

[vast ledge]

Let's go through this step by step

[crude zephyr]

ok :-)

[random compass]

bedless the 🐐

[vast ledge]

1. Change the line where you have extends JavaPlugin to have implements Listener at the end before the bracket

2. In your onLoad function add a line that registers your main class as an event listener

getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);

[vast ledge]

Yep

[crude zephyr]

im stuck on step 2 😭

[random compass]

just past the code in your onLoad part

[crude zephyr]

omg im so dumb

i cant read for shit

dyslexic ass

im so confused

[vast ledge]

You see the ```java
public void onLoad(){
System.out.println("DreamDeath Now Running")
}

Replace it with
```java
public void onLoad(){
System.out.println("DreamDeath Now Running")
getServer().getPluginManager().registerEvents(this, this);
}

I'm on phone so formatting is gna be horrible

[crude zephyr]

i dont have onLoad

i have public void onDisable() {
and
public void onEnable() {

[vast ledge]

On enable soz

[crude zephyr]

so this?

[vast ledge]

yeee

Nice

Now try running it again

[crude zephyr]

so build and run server

[vast ledge]

Yep

[crude zephyr]

OMG IT WORKS

THATS SO COOL

how change colour

§[Colour]?

[vast ledge]

Ayy nice

In your player.sendMessage()

You can use ChatColor.RED

Or such

That's one way

[crude zephyr]

where put ChatColor.RED

[vast ledge]

1. player.sendMessage(ChatColor.RED + "Welcome Back")
2. player.sendMessage(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', a "&cWelcome Back"))
3. player.sendMessage("§cWelcome Back")

This is all out of memory so some method names might differ slightly

[crude zephyr]

does it say it to the world or just the player who joined

[vast ledge]

player.sendMessage is to the players istelf

If you wanna send to everybody then it's broadcast message or something getServer().broadcastMessage()

[crude zephyr]

cool

[cosmic elk]

Could anyone inform me how I could change the over head nametag of a player using ProtocolLib?

[vast ledge]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Bukkit.html#broadcastMessage(java.lang.String)

[crude zephyr]

ima grab food then come back and figure out how to do the death message

[vast ledge]

Ye, but imma go xD gotta work

[crude zephyr]

thanks deus

[quaint mantle]

np

[quaint mantle]

Have you tried using teams?

[cosmic elk]

i have, but that seems to only add prefixes or change the colour, im trying to change the nametag entirely

[worldly ice]

i believe you need to send a player info packet

nvm it looks like that's only for tab list

[cosmic elk]

yeah thats the same thing I was thinking :/, like it must be possible I just have no idea how it would be

[worldly ice]

maybe entity metadata?

and then change the custom name

[wet breach]

I only know the old way

PacketPlayOutPlayerInfo with action REMOVE_PLAYER
PacketPlayOutPlayerInfo with action ADD_PLAYER with a different name (perhaps through reflecting on the packet data)
PacketPlayOutDestroyEntity to all players except you.
PacketPlayOutNamedEntitySpawn to all players except you

[mortal vortex]

Legit why I made a custom stylesheet for SpigotMC smh

[somber scarab]

Hi guys, in my plugin i have regular world generation when generating a plot of land for the minigame.

I wanted to add also some sort of sky islands on top of the regular plot generation..
I thought about making my own world generator to make those sky islands but im not sure if thats making things too hard..

I want to add considerable variety to these sky islands so that every game can be unique in its pvp landscape.

I never dabbled with world generation before but im willing to sink in a month or two to learn enough to make smth like that... just asking if there might be an easier way

[crude zephyr]

can someone help me finish this code?
``@EventHandler
public void onTeleport(PlayerTeleportEvent e) {

    Player p = e.getPlayer();
    p.playSound();
    
}``

i want it to play a pop sound anyone near the player can hear

[chrome beacon]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[crude zephyr]

?

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/Sound.html#ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG

I believe this is the sound you're looking for

[crude zephyr]

which play sound do i select

because i want it to play at the location the player leaves and the location the player goes to

[rough ibex]

look over the javadocs and find the one you want.

[crude zephyr]

sorry i dont know how

[cosmic elk]

any one of these methods should work just fine for what youre trying to achieve, if im correct each one does the same thing just using different infomation you give it

here ill give some example code in just a sec

[crude zephyr]

thanks loaf

[rough ibex]

yes, they all do the same thing, but take different parameters, like sound as String or as Sound, optional SoundCategory, etc.

the more specific, the better

[cosmic elk]

Heres a breakdown of some code that would work for what youre looking for

    public void onTeleport(PlayerTeleportEvent e) {

        Player p = e.getPlayer();
        Location loc = p.getLocation(); // Gets the location of the player
        World worl = loc.getWorld(); // Gets the world of which the location is in (e.g. overworld, nether, end)

        worl.playSound(
                loc, // Location of where the sound plays
                Sound.ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG, // What sound plays
                1.0f, // Volume of the sound
                1.0f  // Pitch of the sound
        );
    }```

[cosmic elk]

im pretty sure if you did that it would just play the sound to that player, not where they are

[crude zephyr]

hmm okay

[crude zephyr]

does this play globaly or just to players nearby the player who teleports, the players near the going to teleport location and the player who teleports themself?

[cosmic elk]

it should just play at the location, so to all players who are near enough to hear the sound

[crude zephyr]

at both locations?
the new and the old

[cosmic elk]

im not sure how one would go about doing that honestly, but this code would only do it at the ending location

[crude zephyr]

ahh right

i want it at both

is rad awake

[cosmic elk]

This code would achive what youre looking for to my understanding, though i havent tested it

    public void onTeleport(PlayerTeleportEvent e) {

        Location startingLoc = e.getFrom();
        Location endingLoc = e.getTo();

        endingLoc.getWorld().playSound(
                startingLoc,
                Sound.ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG,
                1.0f,
                1.0f
        );

        startingLoc.getWorld().playSound(
                endingLoc,
                Sound.ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG,
                1.0f,
                1.0f
        );
    }```

[crude zephyr]

ill test it in a moment

[crude zephyr]

my other question is will this work?

[cosmic elk]

it will but at the end of the sendMessage line you have an unnecessary ();

[crude zephyr]

oh so i do

fixed

[cosmic elk]

you should only need one ; at the end of a line

[crude zephyr]

ye

ima test them both now

[cosmic elk]

alr 👍

[crude zephyr]

pop sound works for all players

and the death message too

[cosmic elk]

glad to hear that 👍 I'd recommend looking up the basics of Java, its confusing as hell for a while but worth it if you want to do more complex stuff in the future

[crude zephyr]

yee when i start to code my second plugin ill look into it
thanks alot loaf

[cosmic elk]

np happy to help

[wet breach]

https://tenor.com/view/the-loaf-praise-it-gif-25365034

[cosmic elk]

LOL

[mortal vortex]

can you spawn a dropped item suspended completely in place?

If you were to drop an item into a hole, as a player, and refilled the hole, the item would pop up. Is there a way to force an item to not do this?

[cosmic elk]

To me that sounds a lot more like modding than plugin development, from my understanding plugins change how the server reacts to certain events, but mods change how the game works entirely

so it might be impossible with plugins, but im not 100% certain wither

either*

[mortal vortex]

is wither a slur

dont call me wither

[cosmic elk]

i just misspelled either 😭

[mortal vortex]

cap

[chrome beacon]

If you don't want the item to interact with anything use an ItemDisplay

[mortal vortex]

gng 🥀

u my saviour

[mortal vortex]

it will be immutable yeah?

[smoky anchor]

wdym 'immutable'

[wet breach]

probably could with an item display?

[mortal vortex]

google immutable gng

[smoky anchor]

I know what immutable means in the sense of a java object
I don't know what you mean in the sense of Item Display

[mortal vortex]

I meant, immutable in the real world sense.

not going to be moved, subject to being picked up

[smoky anchor]

yew, display entities only display. they can not be interacted with in any way without commands

[mortal vortex]

Thanks dude.

You a real one gng

[young knoll]

Immutable means you can’t /mute them

[dawn flower]

how do i stop whatever this is

i still want arrows to deal damage though

[young knoll]

Remove them when they hit a block with ProjectileHitEvent

[dawn flower]

is it getEntity()

[young knoll]

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[dawn flower]

k

[young knoll]

Yes

[dawn flower]

works thanks

[crude zephyr]

found an issue with the code

[chrome beacon]

What's the issue?

[crude zephyr]

apparently leaving a boat is considred teleporting

so the pop sound plays when you leave a boat

[chrome beacon]

You'd want to check the teleport cause

[crude zephyr]

wdym

[chrome beacon]

When do you want it to trigger

[crude zephyr]

i dont know if i can be asked editing the plugin

i mean its the only issue

[chrome beacon]

It's really just one if statement

so it wouldn't be too much of an effort to fix

[crude zephyr]

``@EventHandler
public void onTeleport(PlayerTeleportEvent e) {

    Location startingLoc = e.getFrom();
    Location endingLoc = e.getTo();

    endingLoc.getWorld().playSound(
            startingLoc,
            Sound.ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG,
            1.0f,
            1.0f
    );

    startingLoc.getWorld().playSound(
            endingLoc,
            Sound.ENTITY_CHICKEN_EGG,
            1.0f,
            1.0f
    );
}``

this is the code
would it be a simple line to add?

[eternal oxide]

um

that code is fine if you are teleporting in the same world

but cross world it will play sounds in the wrong locations

[crude zephyr]

oh hmm

its purely astetic so it dosent really matter

but a fix would be nice

[eternal oxide]

get the world from the location you will be playing the sound at

                endingLoc...```

[crude zephyr]

we already have that

[eternal oxide]

you don;t

you have endingLoc.getWorld().playSound( startingLoc...

[crude zephyr]

we have both

[quaint mantle]

You mixed smth up there

You have to switch around the locs

Currently you play a sound at the starting location in the ending world and vice versa

[crude zephyr]

but it still works?

[eternal oxide]

only if in the same world

[crude zephyr]

oh i get it now

just make it
startingLoc.getWorld(),playsound( startingLoc...

and

[dawn flower]

how do i change the max stack size of enchanted gaps to 16

[crude zephyr]

endingLoc.getWorld(),playsound( endingLoc...

[eternal oxide]

yep

[crude zephyr]

okay easy enough

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/ItemMeta.html#setMaxStackSize(java.lang.Integer)

[dawn flower]

is that in 1.21.5 only

[smoky anchor]

Vanilla has had it since 1.20.5
Not sure about API

[young knoll]

Pretty sure the api has also had it since 1.20.5

[winter jungle]

What is a unique value that every skin has? So that I can check, for example, whether a player has exactly the one skin

[blazing ocean]

the skin texture value

[winter jungle]

I have tried this, it is the same in a few places, but not in many others

Value 1:

ewogICJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiIDogMTc0NjQ0NjM0ODc0NSwKICAicHJvZmlsZUlkIiA6ICIyYzRlNWUyNjMzYWY0MjU4OWJlMGRkN2NjZDVjMzhlOCIsCiAgInByb2ZpbGVOYW1lIiA6ICJGZWRveCIsCiAgInNpZ25hdHVyZVJlcXVpcmVkIiA6IHRydWUsCiAgInRleHR1cmVzIiA6IHsKICAgICJTS0lOIiA6IHsKICAgICAgInVybCIgOiAiaHR0cDovL3RleHR1cmVzLm1pbmVjcmFmdC5uZXQvdGV4dHVyZS81ZmYxMTA3Zjg4NmNjODgwYWY5ZWVkMjJjM2UwYTRkMjdhZjM4NmM4NTA2ODBlYzExNDlmMzc1YTZlMmMwYTAxIiwKICAgICAgIm1ldGFkYXRhIiA6IHsKICAgICAgICAibW9kZWwiIDogInNsaW0iCiAgICAgIH0KICAgIH0KICB9Cn0=

Value 2:

ewogICJ0aW1lc3RhbXAiIDogMTc0NjQ0NjMwMTIwOCwKICAicHJvZmlsZUlkIiA6ICI0NjZhNmFlZDg0Mzc0MDcxOGRjNmE2OGRiMmZiM2M5ZCIsCiAgInByb2ZpbGVOYW1lIiA6ICJUaW1vbGlhU3BpZWxlciIsCiAgInNpZ25hdHVyZVJlcXVpcmVkIiA6IHRydWUsCiAgInRleHR1cmVzIiA6IHsKICAgICJTS0lOIiA6IHsKICAgICAgInVybCIgOiAiaHR0cDovL3RleHR1cmVzLm1pbmVjcmFmdC5uZXQvdGV4dHVyZS82NTg0ZDEwNzE4NTRkMDY4NWY4ZmRkNDM3MTY3NGZmYjk1ZWNmYjA2ODEwMTQ1ZWEzODk1YTY0YzNiZmVlNzcwIiwKICAgICAgIm1ldGFkYXRhIiA6IHsKICAgICAgICAibW9kZWwiIDogInNsaW0iCiAgICAgIH0KICAgIH0KICB9Cn0=

[blazing ocean]

well that's the skin texture encoded into b64 (iirc)

[winter jungle]

So it's not the value from textures?

[drowsy helm]

Player skin textures are encrypted through mojang servers and (could) take factors including account id into the equation, so theres no guarantee two of the same skin pngs will result in the same skin texture value

[blazing ocean]

oh are they

interesting

the skin system is whack

[drowsy helm]

extremely whack

[winter jungle]

damn

[drowsy helm]

thats why inventive talent's MineSkin uses a bot account

[eternal oxide]

the value in base64 is just an encoded web address

[blazing ocean]

yeah it's a bit funky having to do that

[eternal oxide]

the server never sees nor uses the texture itself. It just tells the client where to find the texture

[blazing ocean]

I was thinking of integrating that into my NPC stuff for my game engine but kinda cba

[drowsy helm]

ah it is just a url

thats even more whack

[blazing ocean]

[eternal oxide]

well its a url wrapped in a bit of json

[blazing ocean]

more like michaelsoft actually

[drowsy helm]

I wonder if that url can be changed or if theres soem verification on client side

but yeah, profile Id and name are baked into the texture string

[winter jungle]

I thought the Skin Signature would at least be unique

[blazing ocean]

truee I wonder whether the client verifies the signature

[slender elbow]

the signature checks the property value,

[ashen wren]

Can i ask here for resource pack problems and spawning?

[chrome beacon]

Spawning?

[tranquil ferry]

hey how to repond to chargeback saying item not recieved. i dont have data because as soon as he raises chargeback, the resouce access is revoked by spigot. is there any way to prove it @vagrant stratus

[winter jungle]

This means that it is not possible to simply compare a skin without making 2 requests to the API and then comparing pixel by pixel?

[drowsy helm]

I know a bit, whats the question

[ashen wren]

@drowsy helm

[smoky anchor]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Items_model_definition

[ashen wren]

models/item not object, deepl problem

[smoky anchor]

{id:"minecraft:paper",Count:1b,tag:{CustomModelData:10001,display:{Name:'{"text":"Test"}'} }
This is not the correct format for few versions now too

[drowsy helm]

Do you have a json for the item in the items directory aswell?

[smoky anchor]

You're running on outdated information

[slender elbow]

if mojang does not deduplicate skin URLs, yes

[ashen wren]

this one?

[smoky anchor]

You do not need CMD for this simple thing, use the item model component instead

no need to override vanilla item model definitions

[ashen wren]

I would like to keep the original structure, but with a different modal ID I would like to get a different model. But somehow that doesn't work

[smoky anchor]

I would highly suggest using item model component instead of custom model data for these simple models
It makes everything so much easier
And go through the vanilla changelog to see what changed or use wiki, stuff there is fairly well documented.
You can also take a look at how vanilla does stuff, either unpack the vanilla jar or look here

[ashen wren]

Ok it works but how can i spawn a armorstand with an item with a item_model?

What is the exact command?

[smoky anchor]

use this https://mcstacker.net/1.21.4.php to generate the command

And if your problem is solved, please resolve the help request on the MCC discord server @ashen wren

[ashen wren]

But where do I set an item_model for summon? Sorry, the page is confusing for me.

[smoky anchor]

On the right you select what component you want and then press + to add it
Then you can configure the component

This is the resulting command
/summon armor_stand ~ ~ ~ {HandItems:[{id:"minecraft:paper",count:1,components:{"minecraft:item_model":"my_custom_model"}},{}]}

[ashen wren]

Is there also a way to enlarge the models?

make it bigger

[smoky anchor]

yes, make the model itself bigger
or change display size in display properties

this

Oh!
You should be using Item Display Entities for this thing probably.
If the only thing you want to do is to show something.

[ashen wren]

I currently use armor stands. Can I also apply the model to a block that changes its model when placed, since item_model is different.

[smoky anchor]

I do not fully understand what you're asking.
Item models and block models are different. But I believe the answer is no.
You do not have such freedom with block models as you have with item models.

[ashen wren]

So there is no way to do an override for blocks that I get a different model?

But how do I get it to look like a block that has been placed with items?

[smoky anchor]

You can use blocks that have many different (or unused) states
Like noteblocks
But you can't have transparency with noteblocks and there's other issues..

[smoky anchor]

Position it correctly.

[ashen wren]

So I would have to change the position in the hand so that it looks like a block has been placed?

[smoky anchor]

Btw, are you making a plugin at all ?
Or just doing commands :D

[smoky anchor]

Uhh it would be best if you did use the item display entity

It gives you much freedom in many things and is most performant TPS wise

[ashen wren]

Would like to make a plugin for this... I don't like ItemsAdder.

[ashen wren]

Do u mean item_display?

[smoky anchor]

probably

[quaint mantle]

[WARNING] 'dependencies.dependency.systemPath' for org.spigotmc:spigot:jar should not point at files within the project directory, ${basedir}/library/Spigot-1.16.5.jar will be unresolvable by dependent projects @ line 77, column 23

The more you know about spigot

I mean

pom

[smoky anchor]

That's not how you depend on Spigot at all!

I forgot the command that tells you what to do

[blazing ocean]

?maven

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-maven/

[quaint mantle]

Yeah I know

[sly topaz]

or if you're trying to use NMS

[quaint mantle]

Build tools

[sly topaz]

?nms

[undone axle]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

[quaint mantle]

I gotta reinstall every version

😔

[sly topaz]

it takes like 2 minutes per version

[quaint mantle]

yeah but if you are using a potato to run a server

[sly topaz]

if you are on windows, make sure to add build tools to the exclusion folder list

[blazing ocean]

Then don't use a potato

[quaint mantle]

a single version download takes more time than downloading gta 5

[blazing ocean]

[quaint mantle]

ill try using raddish next time 😔

[sly topaz]

I am using a potato and it doesn't take long

[quaint mantle]

Do I just

throw all of it into d drive?

[sly topaz]

I mean, what are you downloading these versions for

if it is for NMS, all you have to do is run build tools, preferably with the --remapped flag so that it gets dumped into your local maven repository

[quaint mantle]

fixing an old plugin

which uses all minecraft version for some reason

[sly topaz]

but does it use the API or NMS also?

what plugin is it

[quaint mantle]

Yeah

[sly topaz]

it wasn't a yes or no question lol

[quaint mantle]

It uses

API AND NMS

[sly topaz]

well then you don't have much of an option, it's either that or just invalidating their impl and using a reflection-based one for the time being

you could just forget about the versions you don't want to support by removing them modules from the pom

[quaint mantle]

build tools is virus?!

dem

[sly topaz]

I don't think defender has ever detected it as malware for me, but then again I had defender disabled most of the time back when I had windows

it just slows down things like build tools a lot

[quaint mantle]

I love false positive

Who uses winddos anyways lol

cause

dad has stored some important stuff

and he isn't here rn

[sly topaz]

ideally you'd have everything in a dev drive so that defender doesn't try to scan on every file creation but it all ends up the same

[quaint mantle]

why windows defender so weird

[eternal oxide]

defender is fine

its all I use for virus detection

[sly topaz]

it is the only thing anyone should use for virus detection

[quaint mantle]

I use kasperky

[eternal oxide]

I've used all AVs in teh past. personal and corporate and they are all bad

[rotund ravine]

I find a lot of stuff will give false flags on some of the more “sketchy” stuff

[eternal oxide]

kasp isn;t bad unless you are using it in a corporation install, then its a nightmare

[rotund ravine]

Like they were paid to flag some of it

[eternal oxide]

yep, I only use defender now and I've had no virus in 15 years

[slender elbow]

i remember i used to have some goofy ahh chinese av that flagged itself every hour

[rotund ravine]

Lol

[slender elbow]

i don't remember what it was called, but it had a panda logo

[eternal oxide]

then again I don;t download torrents or visit dosgy sites

[slender elbow]

and all the text was in chinese

[rotund ravine]

Can u read chinese?

[slender elbow]

nope

which made it all the funnier

[rotund ravine]

Smh

[thorn isle]

i thought about this a bit at work and i think this runs into the same problem as my approach, except this trades off worst-case time complexity for worst-case space complexity in the pathological cases

in the worst case this will degenerate to the same space complexity as the naïve hashmap solution, i.e. your tree structure will become untenable

the tree has a fixed depth of 9, but the degree is only limited by the number of materials in the game

suppose there are n materials in the game, and we start by defining n recipes that require an unique material in the first slot

the degree of your root node is now n

now suppose we define one additional recipe that also requires, say, dirt in the second slot

now we have n2 nodes but only n+1 recipes

now suppose we add a few more recipes that take a few different materials for slots 3 4 and 5, and the worst case is already larger than will fit in memory

[pure dagger]

why world.getUID() not world.getUUID()

[smoky anchor]

#verified message

[worldly ingot]

Why the fuck am I everywhere?

[smoky anchor]

Did you eat a granade ?

[worldly ingot]

Valid follow-up question

Unknown answer

[sly topaz]

?ischocoreal

[undone axle]

No, Choco is not real. I was not programmed to say this by Sam.

[rough drift]

W sam move

[slender elbow]

single abstract method

[vagrant stratus]

I use the following:

The buyer purchased a digital product from me on SpigotMC.org, specifically the resource titled “<resource_title>” (Transaction ID: <transaction id>) The product is automatically delivered to the buyer's SpigotMC account immediately after purchase, allowing them to download the software directly from the website. Due to the nature of this transaction, as an intangible digital good, the item is non-refundable once accessed.

Link to the product: <link here>

I kindly request that this dispute be reviewed with consideration of the fact that the buyer has already received the digital product in full.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

should work in your case

[grim hound]

uh

it's a copy of the rep

and suddenly "nuh-uh, this ain't it"

[rough ibex]

git pull does nothing?

[hardy sundial]

Hi, i know 1.8 is an outdated version but is it possible to run it with JDK 21? The plugin ViaVersion requires JDK 21 and when I run with JDK 21 I get this error 100 times per second:

[18:54:19 WARN]: An exceptionCaught() event was fired, and it reached at the tail of the pipeline. It usually means the last handler in the pipeline did not handle the exception.
java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to access address of buffer
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.Native.read(Native Method) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe.doReadBytes(EpollSocketChannel.java:678) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe.epollInReady(EpollSocketChannel.java:714) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollSocketChannel$EpollSocketUnsafe$3.run(EpollSocketChannel.java:755) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor.runAllTasks(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:380) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.channel.epoll.EpollEventLoop.run(EpollEventLoop.java:268) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at io.netty.util.concurrent.SingleThreadEventExecutor$2.run(SingleThreadEventExecutor.java:116) ~[spigot.jar:git-Spigot-21fe707-741a1bd]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:1583) [?:?]

[chrome beacon]

Use a maintained fork of 1.8

or fork it yourself and update things

[hardy sundial]

Thx

Do you know any by any chance?

Paper ?

[chrome beacon]

Paper doesn't maintain 1.8 versions

PandaSpigot I believe is one

but then again you really should update to 1.21.5

[hardy sundial]

Thanks!

Well I want to but I want to have a pvp server and really need the old pvp mechanics

Idk but downgrading back to 1.8 seems the only feasible thing to do

[chrome beacon]

You can disable the attack cooldown in modern versions

[hardy sundial]

Oh thanks I didn't know!

[smoky anchor]

bit more context ?

[rough ibex]

It suggests you run git pull

[smoky anchor]

define "it"

[rough ibex]

scroll... up?

in the picture

if its a copy of the repo I'm assuming it's supposed to be up to date

[smoky anchor]

how much do I have to scroll up ?

[rough ibex]

that depends on your screen resolution

[smoky anchor]

You have not sent any pictures here for at least half a month

but if you just cloned, yes git pull will do nothing most likely

[chrome beacon]

They were talking about ShadowOfHeavens image right above their message

[smoky anchor]

Aaah sorry, I misunderstood
sorry

[echo basalt]

just found myself debugging code without bothering to look at the console for stacktraces

life is beautiful

[vagrant stratus]

kekw

[grim hound]

fr?

[rough ibex]

run git status

[rough ibex]

so you have changed things

does remote have commits you dont

[grim hound]

no

I copied it
Made one push 3 weeks ago
Today I couldn't

[rough ibex]

you can't push?

well fetch first then

you can't push to a repo that has commits ahead of you

[grim hound]

but it doesn't

it really

doesn't

[young knoll]

Force Push

[grim hound]

I don't seem to have the option to do that

force push isn't an option

[tribal wraith]

Can you make entities glow hex color codes?

I have it working for normal ChatColor using scoreboard teams; it uses org.bukkit.ChatColor which doesn't implement hex, is there another way?

[slender elbow]

no

[rough ibex]

did you fetch

[slender elbow]

the only exception are display entities, but not otherwise

[warm mica]

That's a minecraft limitation

[somber scarab]

why is she single 😢

[crude zephyr]

making my second pluin, might need some help
ive made the base plugin but havent started the EXP spawning rule
how would i go about that

BlockBreakEvent or something

[chrome beacon]

Depends on how you want it to work

[crude zephyr]

uhh so

also hi olivo
i fixed the bug

anyways

summon exp orb with a value of 1exp point at the location a fully grown wheat/carrot/potato.etc is broken

[chrome beacon]

So if you break that down you need to:
First check if it's a crop, then check it's age and if it's the max amount spawn an exp orb.

Convieniently Minecraft (and therefor Spigot) already comes with a tag for all crops; It's called Tag.CROPS.

To check the age of the crop you need to cast the blockdata to Ageable (make sure to get the right import, there's two of them)

Lastly spawning an exp orb can be done with World#spawn passing in ExperienceOrb.class as the entity class

Alternatively you could jus give the xp directly to the player

I recommend you take a look around the javadoc and get familiar with how it works

?jd-s

[undone axle]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

[crude zephyr]

hmm ok

got this but im stuck

so uhh

[chrome beacon]

Right now's the time when the Javadoc is useful

[crude zephyr]

theres no crops

[chrome beacon]

If you look up the Tag class you can read about what methods are in it and what they do

Use the searchbar in the top right of the page

[crude zephyr]

ok

brb getting foof

food

[crude zephyr]

back

im very stupid

[chrome beacon]

Hm? That's not quite what you need to do

[crude zephyr]

i can tell
its red

still wrong

[chrome beacon]

A bit more than that

You want to check if the block that was broken is a crop

Tag.CROPS contains said crops so you need check of the block you broke is part of it

[crude zephyr]

ohh so find if its a crop first then see if its RIPE

[chrome beacon]

Yes

[crude zephyr]

im so fucking confused

[chrome beacon]

Not sure where you got that extra BlockBreakEvent from

[crude zephyr]

i was trying something

sorry

[chrome beacon]

Also you want to see if the tag contains the material of the broken block

Not if the type of crop is RIPE

[crude zephyr]

i cant fucking do this 😭

[chrome beacon]

RIPE is not a material it's a state that the crop can be in

[chrome beacon]

Closer but not quite

You want the material of the block you broke

And see if that's part of the CROPS tag

Anyways I'm off to sleep now it's a bit late for me

[crude zephyr]

oh shoot

i know what to do

okay ima stop untill someone can help me
im very lost

ping me if ya can help

[chrome beacon]

You can start with something easier to get the logic down; like Scratch for example

After that I suggest looking at a couple Java tutorials

[crude zephyr]

the kids website?

[chrome beacon]

Yes

[crude zephyr]

i did scratch when i was 10 💀

its been a few years since ive been coding

hi loaf

[chrome beacon]

It is a useful tool to learn the logic required to break things down

[cosmic elk]

This could help, it goes over the basics of Javas code, I wish I saw this before I started working on plugins 😭

It goes over most of what youll deal with in java

[crude zephyr]

OH WAIT HOLD ON

I need to say If

[cosmic elk]

youre close but still not ther exactly

[crude zephyr]

i watch yt video

[cosmic elk]

                            then do this
                        }```
this is how if statments are structured, you need the () to hold what youre checking for, and usually {} for the code to execute

[crude zephyr]

omg i just broke my esc key

but i fixed it

im lost again

[crude zephyr]

omg this is 6 years old

"code looking stuff"

[cosmic elk]

dw unless youre watching a video specific to plugins then it being that old should be fine lol, im pretty sure java itself is like 30 years old now

[cosmic elk]

thats close but you dont need the do(spawn), because you put the code in the {} just like how the event itself has them that you put the code in as well

[crude zephyr]

oh right

theres no summon tag

[cosmic elk]

so its more like this

if (Tag.CROPS.isTagged(Material.WHEAT)) {
// code here
}

[crude zephyr]

like summon(entity)

oh i got { } mixed up with ;

[cosmic elk]

yes before you execute a method (a method is just code that can be exucted whenever you call it) you need an object

I think you need a world object

so you spawn the entity in the correct world

[crude zephyr]

im going to cry

'

do i need to do something with e

[cosmic elk]

yes you do, the event would allow you to return the block that broke, and therefor the location of it

here lemme write and example rq

[crude zephyr]

thanks

i need examples

thats how i learn

or so i was told

[cosmic elk]

also dont worry if you dont get it right away Java is hard to learn for the first time, it took me a while to fully understand 😭

        // An object is usually not a literal object like how a block is or an item
        // Its more so a container that can hold data, like this
        String message = "broke a block!";
        // Even though of course it's not something actually in the world, Java understands this as an object
        // World, String, Player, are all different object types, and they hold different data and function differently

        Block brokenBlock = event.getBlock(); // This gets the block object from the event, or the block that was broken
        Location location = brokenBlock.getLocation(); // This gets the location of the block
        World world = location.getWorld(); // This gets the world the location is in (e.g. overworld, nether, end)

        world.spawnEntity(
                location, // This is where the entity will spawn
                EntityType.BAT // This is the type that will spawn
        );
    }```

to my understanding this should work

[crude zephyr]

so what you have put will summon a bat

[cosmic elk]

yes it should

ill check and see i always forget how to summon entities

[crude zephyr]

and Sting message = "Broke a block";
will say it in the console

so thats optinal

optional

[cosmic elk]

its just an example of an object and isnt refranced anywhere else in the code

so if you removed it nothing will change

[crude zephyr]

i copyed it in

but theres a red word

and also it wont check of it is fully grown right?

[cosmic elk]

it shouldnt, I wouldnt exactly know how to either honsetly

[cosmic elk]

im pretty sure that the event is set to e for you right?

[crude zephyr]

oh yes change event to e

[quaint mantle]

Then it's e.getBlock()

[crude zephyr]

yee i did that

how check for fully grown crop

[quaint mantle]

Also why create a string if you aren't passing it? or are you passing it?

[cosmic elk]

i was just making an example of what an object is

[quaint mantle]

Ageable and getBlockData

[crude zephyr]

not sure
it looks not important

[cosmic elk]

its not dw

[cosmic elk]

also it works i just used the wrong event

youd need the BlockBreakEvent

[quaint mantle]

Ageable ageable = (Ageable) block.getBlockData();
if (ageable.getAge() == 7) {
}

Something like this

[crude zephyr]

why 7

[quaint mantle]

Cause crops are fully grown at 7

I think

[crude zephyr]

wouldnt it be RIPE

[cosmic elk]

ages for crops seemed to be saved as a integer, so 0 would be youngest I assume

[cosmic elk]

also that is deprecated, so it could be removed from the API soon

[crude zephyr]

oh ok

so it put together would be this?