#help-development | SpigotMC | Page 1264

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:15 AM

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public class MyMenu extends ConfiguredMenu {

  private static final String CLOSE_BUTTON_KEY = "c";

  public MyMenu(Player viewer) {
    super(viewer);
  }

  @Override
  public String getIdentifier() {
    return "my-fancy-menu";
  }

  @Override
  public void setup() {
    registerButton(CLOSE_BUTTON_KEY, this::close);
  }
}

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:15 AM

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Was expecting kotlin- damn

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 1:16 AM

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unfortunately not
I tried both HIGHEST and LOWEST because one thread I found suggested LOWEST was run first, but neither affected it unfortunately

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:16 AM

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my-fancy-menu.yml

title: "Whatever"
mask:
- "# # # # # # # # #"
- "# . . . . . . . #"
- "# # # # c # # # #"

items:
  "#": 
    type: BLACK_STAINED_GLASS_PANE
    name: " "
  c:
    type: NETHER_STAR
    name: "<red>whatever"

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I don't actively use kt unless I'm doing backend dev or I need it for a proj

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I'm hoping to maintain some API compat when I'm done w this rework because it'd really suck to port a million menus

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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How does it represent all the item component options

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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ofc my example sucks ass bc I cba writing something fully

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Prob I think u’d have to send it before the respawn no?

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Or does it just not support those because 3 years old

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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it like

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has a class for each "field"

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where it passes whatever object you want and it applies em to the item

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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anyone tried converting adventure text components to SNBT? Mainly for setting sign text in 1.21.5

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Do you have all the options documented somewhere :p

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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So you can just

public class FoodItemStackCodec implements ItemStackCodec<ConfigurationSection> {

  @Override
  public ItemStack load(ItemStack current, ConfigurationSection value) {
    // do stuff w it
  }
}

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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mental trail anyone tried converting adventure text components to SNBT? Mainly for setting si...

I know DFU does a fine job w it

young void Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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earnest girder unfortunately not I tried both HIGHEST and LOWEST because one thread I found sug...

what event do you use this for?

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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young knoll Do you have all the options documented somewhere :p

most ppl only care about lore / name / model-data

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Let’s say I want to add, idk, no tooltip to an item, what would I add to the config

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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I have a huge list

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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I just need to use event.setRespawnLocation tho lol

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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dfu?

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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echo basalt my-fancy-menu.yml ```yml title: "Whatever" mask: - "# # # # # # # # #" - "# . ...

Looks good, I personally do it like this in Lotus
https://github.com/Mqzn/Lotus/blob/master/src/main/java/io/github/mqzen/menus/base/serialization/impl/SerializedMenuYaml.java

GitHub

Lotus/src/main/java/io/github/mqzen/menus/base/serialization/impl/S...

Simple but powerful spigot menus api. Contribute to Mqzn/Lotus development by creating an account on GitHub.

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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and ppl can ask for more

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Fair

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:18 AM

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earnest girder I just need to use event.setRespawnLocation tho lol

Oh u didnt set that💀

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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clever zephyr Looks good, I personally do it like this in Lotus https://github.com/Mqzn/Lotus/...

Problem w that is if you want custom fields for whatever menu you're kinda fucked

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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ivory sleet I know DFU does a fine job w it

what is DFU?

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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it strictly "loads" the menu but doesn't reference it

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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echo basalt Problem w that is if you want custom fields for whatever menu you're kinda fucke...

not really, DataRegistry is expandable

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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mental trail dfu?

Yes, Minecraft’s graph library that maps different data versions of data types

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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DataFixerUpper

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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Again, it's built for them to be kinda done in API and everything else is an afterthought

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:19 AM

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it automatically upgrades older data formats and transforms them

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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But yeah I also keep my essence when it comes to slot selections and whatever

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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yes but talking from an adventure text to snbt because I'm looking to update from pre 1.21.5 to 1.21.5 which requires snbt

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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(It just wraps a list of slots)

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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~~Or as I sometimes like to call it DataFuckerUpper~~

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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I don't think the DFU will update that when it's setting it in my code

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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And because it's ordered you can have selections that apply it in weird patterns

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like as a snake or spiral

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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Neon, my suspicion, is that paper might have api that invokes the DFU

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or if there is some sort of serializer maybe

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idk

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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So for pagination it just follows whatever order the selection implies

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:20 AM

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paper is easy, yes I just use the component methods, looking for spigot

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xD

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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A bit goofier

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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what I'm kinda working rn is a weird abstract-deabstract-abstract thing for menu + slot events

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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seems this may be the incorrect discord to ask

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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because I want to be able to tie events to either slots or the menu as a whole

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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@young knoll dou know if there is anything on the spigot side?

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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except I need to transform them down and then back up so everything's neat

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Spigot doesn’t natively support adventure so… probably not

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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?service

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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Adventure might have something built in? No idea

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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mental trail seems this may be the incorrect discord to ask

Na its fine, but I did think u were after a paper exclusive solution so my bad

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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@echo basalt last forum was in 2024?

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or am I tweaking

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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last forum what?

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post?

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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ivory sleet Na its fine, but I did think u were after a paper exclusive solution so my bad

nah, that's what the paper discord is for?

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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ye

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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dunno

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I don't really yap on the forums much

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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mental trail nah, that's what the paper discord is for?

Haha yea I suppose

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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Still need to figure out what my SlotRestrictions class will do

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I want to have some sort of SlotRestrictions.restrictAll()

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SlotRestrictions.accepts(item -> true)

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/debate2020-dumpster-fire-hot-mess-train-wreck-terrible-gif-18640948

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:23 AM

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but what does that boil down to 🤔 a list of event handlers?

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And then tie these to either a slot or the entire menu

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:23 AM

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I tend to always parse my components from a config in minimessage format so I don’t really have to worry about updating them

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:23 AM

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Oh yea

true cosmos Apr 28, 2025, 1:23 AM

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i need to figure out how to make yaml files readable

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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As in?

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read file permission?

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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more manual encoding and less ConfigurationSerializable I assume

true cosmos Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Like with comments

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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young knoll I tend to always parse my components from a config in minimessage format so I do...

well setting sign text from a component requires SNBT format now

true cosmos Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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and more syntax error handling

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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didn't snbt change

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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Comments are always good

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Breaks things up and tells the user how not to be dumb

mental trail Apr 28, 2025, 1:24 AM

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yes, but the signs use to be able to use JSON format, then it switched to SNBT

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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chat changed from json to snbt as a whole

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that was it

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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So i have decided that im gonna do the next update on saturday @ivory sleet
Just wondering if you had any other interesting ideas to be considered ?

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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and I want to avoid Map<String, Object>

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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mental trail yes, but the signs use to be able to use JSON format, then it switched to SNBT

Yea, it might be the case bungee chat may support it, or if adventure bukkit platform has something

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unsure

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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been replacing mine with a fancy pattern

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that's really tedious to write

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:25 AM

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clever zephyr So i have decided that im gonna do the next update on saturday <@299969655915806...

Idk, I’m not a good idea brainstormer 😅

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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Unfortunately the Bukkit platform is pretty limited

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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ivory sleet Idk, I’m not a good idea brainstormer 😅

Ehh that's fine

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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you gotta go bonkers but goes a bit like

MetadataKey<T> (String name, Type<T>)
MetadataHolder<T> (Key<T>, T, Type<T>)
MetadataContainer (Map<MetadataKey<T>, MetadataHolder<T>>)
MetadataType<T>
MetadataCodec<T>
MetadataRenderer<T>

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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You need a bit of NMS to use components for items, signs, inventory names, etc

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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echo basalt you gotta go bonkers but goes a bit like ``` MetadataKey<T> (String name, Type<...

Btw it doesn’t allow me to make a post it says I need to do 20 posts first or sumn

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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echo basalt you gotta go bonkers but goes a bit like ``` MetadataKey<T> (String name, Type<...

Na but honestly we love a rich type system

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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it's a headache to run

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but by having a holder class you can have nullability

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separating codecs lets you reuse them across diff types

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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young knoll You need a bit of NMS to use components for items, signs, inventory names, etc

paper:
https://tenor.com/eQQ2wj7R9Dz.gif

Tenor

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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?whereami

undone axleBOT Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

▶ Play video

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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but then you go crazy

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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young knoll ?whereami

inflatable

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it was a joke lol

weak wasp Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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eager crescent Btw it doesn’t allow me to make a post it says I need to do 20 posts first or su...

Just contact some devs that are offering, there are tons of them

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:28 AM

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and it starts looking like mojang code

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:29 AM

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Not quite

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Needs a few more genetics

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:29 AM

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Lens

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and whatevers

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D14<A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N>

clever zephyr Apr 28, 2025, 1:30 AM

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young knoll Needs a few more genetics

Genetics lmao

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:30 AM

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Why do you have a separate float parser

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Rather than using the valueOf like the rest

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:30 AM

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10% -> 0.1f

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guy wanted it because we use floats for percent-based attributes

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like 10% chance of blocking an attack

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:31 AM

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Isn’t that what the renderer is for

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:31 AM

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Renderer spits it out

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Parser loads it from the config/command

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guy cba doing 0.001 on a 1000 line config

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and it's a lot neater to just /armory attribute block_chance set 10%

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I also wrote a really neat trigger system that looks a lot like an event system

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but it's kinda reactive?

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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I never know how I should store a percent in configs

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To make it user friendly

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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yeah you can just "10%" on mine

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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Ah

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I flip between 10 and 0.1

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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go brr

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ah shit I gotta make some stuff immutable

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just to call it enterprisy

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like this

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:37 AM

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Nah if you really want to call it enterprisy then the list needs a custom default size

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:37 AM

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like 4

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but it needs to be a constant because it needs a name

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class needs to be final, private constructor- package-private factory method

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 1:38 AM

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Mmm yes perfect

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 1:38 AM

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the list becomes immutable and we return a copy every time we add sumn to it

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we switch from a list to an array because muh objects

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and add this. everywhere

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I just cba

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because then I'd need to do it for the rest of the codebase

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and rn we're at like 35k lines

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which is pretty tiny in the grand scope of things

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also full unit-test coverage and javadoc everywhere

young void Apr 28, 2025, 2:05 AM

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earnest girder I just need to use event.setRespawnLocation tho lol

oh so that fixed it?
cool

young void Apr 28, 2025, 2:25 AM

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echo basalt and rn we're at like 35k lines

what are you even making dude

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 2:26 AM

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code

young void Apr 28, 2025, 2:26 AM

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echo basalt code

"code"

young void Apr 28, 2025, 2:26 AM

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echo basalt code

no seriously im curious

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 2:26 AM

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rpg

young void Apr 28, 2025, 2:28 AM

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echo basalt rpg

cool

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:06 AM

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echo basalt and add `this.` everywhere

I don't do this and I never will

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 4:07 AM

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add final to params

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 AM

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explicit immutability sucks

echo basalt Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 AM

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ImmutableList 🤮

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 AM

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kotlin List 👍

orchid trout Apr 28, 2025, 4:23 AM

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blazing ocean explicit immutability sucks

but optimization😍

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:23 AM

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how is explicit immutability optimization lmao

orchid trout Apr 28, 2025, 4:24 AM

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i heard that c++ compiles differently if something is final

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 4:34 AM

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orchid trout i heard that c++ compiles differently if something is final

This is in fact true

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however, it should be treated as a design choice and not an optimization. When a virtual function is not declared as final, the compiler must generate code for dynamic dispatch such as virtual function table. But if instead it is declared final, the compiler knows it can't be overridden in any derived class thus the compiler can devirtualize and replace indirect functional call with a direct call. If the class is declared final, all the members are implicitly final. The final keyword on a class can allow the compiler to do more aggressive inlining and optimizations since the layout is pretty much known at that point.

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 5:09 AM

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the rule of wisdom

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"code duplication is far cheaper than wrong abstractions"

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 5:22 AM

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echo basalt and add `this.` everywhere

i only use this. if im setting a field value

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t b h

pseudo hazel Apr 28, 2025, 6:33 AM

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im only using this. in the constructor 😎

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if something is not from this class, it will have a prefix anyways

snow stone Apr 28, 2025, 6:46 AM

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it's from weaponmechanics

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Anyone know of a quick and easy way to get the interaction point of a BlockPlaceEvent (like from the PlayerInteractEvent) or will I have to manually raycast it

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 7:01 AM

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drowsy helm Anyone know of a quick and easy way to get the interaction point of a BlockPlace...

you want to get the block from the interaction event?

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 7:02 AM

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wet breach you want to get the block from the interaction event?

No, I'm trying to get whether the click was on the top or bottom half when placing a block

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PlayerInteract provides click position but block place doesnt

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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drowsy helm PlayerInteract provides click position but block place doesnt

pretty sure the interact event fires after the block event

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so couldn't you just use some field to detect you want the position from that event? probably could just make your own event for this

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 7:07 AM

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yeah seems sorta hacky though

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ig its either that or raycast calcs. I'll figure it out thanks

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 7:32 AM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/nms-patches/net/minecraft/server/network/PlayerConnection.patch#698,705,1100,1105


    public static Vector getBlockFaceLookedAt(Player player, double maxDistance){
        CraftPlayer cp = (CraftPlayer) player;
        ServerPlayer serverPlayer = cp.getHandle();

        Location origin = player.getLocation();
        Predicate<? super Entity> predicate = entity -> entity != player && player.canSee(entity) && !serverPlayer.isSpectator() && serverPlayer.isPickable();

        RayTraceResult hitResult = serverPlayer.level().getWorld().rayTrace(origin, origin.getDirection(), maxDistance, FluidCollisionMode.NEVER, true, 0.1, predicate);
        Block block = hitResult.getHitBlock();

        if(block == null)
            return null;

        return hitResult.getHitPosition().subtract(block.getLocation().toVector());
    }

Had to adapt this, thank god for moj mappings

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feels like this should be part of api

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 7:35 AM

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could always make a pr

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 7:35 AM

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yeah might

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my dumbass compied the wrong code block

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 8:08 AM

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https://github.com/winnpixie/log4noshell/blob/adc5943fcb6155a7f170c77379cb73024aa6b9fa/src/main/java/io/github/winnpixie/log4noshell/JndiLookupTransformer.java#L22 yeah so this was fucking broken lol @mortal vortex

mortal vortex Apr 28, 2025, 8:08 AM

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LOL RIP BESTIE

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YOU GOT THIS

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 8:08 AM

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fixed it now tho

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young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 8:10 AM

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What plugin

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 8:11 AM

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u should probably look for versions of whatever plugins ur using that support bungee, and then use said plugin on Bungee server instead of per-spigot-server

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:12 AM

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How to add Mace Plugin In Aternos server

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Sir Help Me

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https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/mace.116083/

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This one

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 8:13 AM

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?noping

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#dontping

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?dontping

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:13 AM

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Oh sorry

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 8:13 AM

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there is a link but I can;t remember

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 AM

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You can help me

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 AM

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You are in the wrong channel. #help-server

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Oh sorry

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Aternos only allows plugins from their specific plugin manager afaik

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So if it isn’t on there you can’t add it

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:14 AM

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As a mod ??

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I can ad

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Add

mortal vortex Apr 28, 2025, 8:15 AM

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Jishuna is a staff member for Aternos. Direct all your questions to his DMs inbox

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 8:15 AM

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https://support.aternos.org/hc/en-us/articles/360026950892-Install-plugins-Minecraft-Java-Edition

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:15 AM

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eternal oxide <https://support.aternos.org/hc/en-us/articles/360026950892-Install-plugins-Mine...

That thing I know

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I want to add Mace for lowest version of Minecraft

mortal vortex Apr 28, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Dude. This isn’t the right channel.

sonic vessel Apr 28, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Kk

slate siren Apr 28, 2025, 8:28 AM

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young knoll What plugin

Guilds

slate siren Apr 28, 2025, 8:29 AM

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buoyant viper u should probably look for versions of whatever plugins ur using that support bu...

The plugin is a plugin that I coded, so what should I do for a solution?

zealous osprey Apr 28, 2025, 8:31 AM

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buoyant viper

You writing a compiler or are you calling ASM from Java?

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Ahh, you calling ASM. Why not use the native keyword and link a C file with inline asm or just pure compiled asm code

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 8:37 AM

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zealous osprey You writing a compiler or are you calling ASM from Java?

ASM (in this context) refers to a library for working with Java bytecode :P

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https://asm.ow2.io/

true cosmos Apr 28, 2025, 8:37 AM

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deadlink

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alivelink

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:05 AM

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what this? Could not find com.mojang:brigadier:1.3.10.

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when i try load nms from core

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https://paste.md-5.net/dagajeyagu.cs

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full error - https://paste.md-5.net/lemericugu.rb

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server jar i use from lib derictory

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1.21.3

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 9:10 AM

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You need the mavenLocal() repo and run buildtools

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:14 AM

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hmm for 1.12 this was worked

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lol this work after adding maven {
url = 'https://libraries.minecraft.net/'
}

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but not will work in runtime right?

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(i was just load paper server core:)

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and added to lib

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but anyway paper is fork spigot so this will work i gess?

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:23 AM

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Hard fork so might not work

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When working with Paper you should ask Paper

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:23 AM

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wdym hard fork?

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:24 AM

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They're doing their own thing now, Spigot and Paper might split code wise so compat isn't guaranteed

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:25 AM

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i think they support spigot plugins like 99 %

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i never see spigot plugins what crashed bc they in paper, purpur core

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but yes this not garanteed 100 %

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:26 AM

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There are slight behaviour differences

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Take the hide attributes item flag for example

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That people in here keep having issues with

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On Spigot just adding the flag will stop it from showing

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but on Paper it won't unless you manually add an attribute

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Small differences like this is why you really should ask Paper when using Paper

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:29 AM

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you've obviously had experience. Can you guess how many percent incompatible?

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50%?

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60?

eternal oxide Apr 28, 2025, 9:29 AM

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One million

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eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 9:30 AM

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The point is, you won't know

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Stuff might work, stuff might not

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:30 AM

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chrome beacon but on Paper it won't unless you manually add an attribute

what do you mean when say "manually adding" ? You should anyway adding flags manually

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to meta

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:31 AM

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I mean you need to set an attribute to the item

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You add the flag and an attribute

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 9:31 AM

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oh

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lol

amber barn Apr 28, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Hi im new to making servers, im atm using minefort host and atm I have it using purpur,
How can I add spigot plugins/mod to my server?

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Just a note I'm mobile I don't really got a pc yet

smoky anchor Apr 28, 2025, 9:52 AM

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amber barn Hi im new to making servers, im atm using minefort host and atm I have it usin...

Purpur is not spigot, go somewhere else
Wrong chat, this is a #help-server question

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Anyways, either use their plugin manager or put plugins into the plugins folder.

amber barn Apr 28, 2025, 10:02 AM

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smoky anchor 1. Purpur is not spigot, go somewhere else 2. Wrong chat, this is a <#7418758450...

Oh okey ty for letting me know

tall rune Apr 28, 2025, 10:03 AM

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on my server every 5 minutes did you know that five minutes have passed? message is sent and when damage is taken,
ouch you took damage is sent to the damage taker

smoky anchor Apr 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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tall rune on my server every 5 minutes did you know that five minutes have passed? message...

Do not crosspost, are you asking for development help ?
If not, stay in the other channel.

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 10:05 AM

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I have started to study the differences between gradle and Maven and found such a thing as “fileTree” analog of which in maven is not as I understand it

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and as I realized I have to manually create repositories for Jar files with commands

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:19 AM

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how do you compare Timestamps?

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Timestamp == Timestamp does not work for some reason

smoky anchor Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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.equals ?
And the reason is because they are probably not the same object

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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.compareTo

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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Instant.java 🙏

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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ohhh I see

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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or yeah equals works i think

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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let me try

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yeah equals works

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😸 😸 😸 😸

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 10:22 AM

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java moment

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:23 AM

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beautiful

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smoky anchor Apr 28, 2025, 10:25 AM

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character(s)
lazy

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:26 AM

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XD

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IF reportCharacters > 1 add s at the end... ehh

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too much work

quaint mantle Apr 28, 2025, 10:29 AM

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String a = reportCharacters > 1 ? "Characters" : "Character"

umbral ridge Apr 28, 2025, 10:29 AM

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there

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xD

quaint mantle Apr 28, 2025, 10:29 AM

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lol

upper hazel Apr 28, 2025, 10:30 AM

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lol

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM

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yo if I’m tryna find a dev where do I go

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM

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?services

undone axleBOT Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM

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hey guys, do any of you know any good method to have textured player heads that work from 1.8 to 1.21 ?
I tried with reflection but could only manage to support from 1.8 to 1.20. I really don't get how I could support 1.21

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 10:31 AM

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ai

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Does doing it without reflection work on 1.21

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If not that could be a spigot bug

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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I tried but no, because since 1.20.5 if I remember well it requires some new methods

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:37 AM

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Shouldn’t

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The api has been the same since 1.18 afaik

drowsy helm Apr 28, 2025, 10:38 AM

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Its been the same for qutie a while now

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I havent had to change my method

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:38 AM

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that's really strange ...

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I will send my method in a few

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It's dirty now since I tried many things but still :

public static ItemStack getCustomHead(String url) {
        ItemStack head = new ItemStack(Materials.PLAYER_HEAD.get(), 1, (short) 3);
        SkullMeta meta = (SkullMeta) head.getItemMeta();

        if (url == null || url.isEmpty() || meta == null) return head;

        try {
            Class<?> playerProfileClass = Class.forName("org.bukkit.profile.PlayerProfile");
            Method createProfile = Bukkit.class.getMethod("createProfile", UUID.class, String.class);
            Method setPlayerProfile = meta.getClass().getMethod("setPlayerProfile", playerProfileClass);
            Method setProperty = playerProfileClass.getMethod("setProperty", Class.forName("org.bukkit.profile.PlayerProfile$Property"));

            Object profile = createProfile.invoke(null, UUID.randomUUID(), "CustomHead");
            Class<?> propertyClass = Class.forName("org.bukkit.profile.PlayerProfile$Property");

            Constructor<?> propertyConstructor = propertyClass.getConstructor(String.class, String.class);
            String textureValue = Base64.getEncoder().encodeToString(("{\"textures\":{\"SKIN\":{\"url\":\"" + url + "\"}}}").getBytes());
            Object property = propertyConstructor.newInstance("textures", textureValue);

            setProperty.invoke(profile, property);
            setPlayerProfile.invoke(meta, profile);

        }

Im pretty sure I forgot something

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 catch (ClassNotFoundException e) {
            // Fallback for 1.13–1.20 using GameProfile
            UUID uuid = UUID.nameUUIDFromBytes(url.getBytes());
            GameProfile profile = new GameProfile(uuid, null);
            profile.getProperties().put("textures", new Property("textures",
                    Base64.getEncoder().encodeToString(("{\"textures\":{\"SKIN\":{\"url\":\"" + url + "\"}}}").getBytes())));
            try {
                Method setProfile = meta.getClass().getDeclaredMethod("setProfile", GameProfile.class);
                setProfile.setAccessible(true);
                setProfile.invoke(meta, profile);
            } catch (Exception ignore) {
                try {
                    Field profileField = meta.getClass().getDeclaredField("profile");
                    profileField.setAccessible(true);
                    profileField.set(meta, profile);
                } catch (Exception ignoredAgain) {}
            }
        } catch (Exception e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
        }

        head.setItemMeta(meta);
        return head;
    }

Part2

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:41 AM

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That’s still reflection though

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I asked if it worked on 1.21 without reflection

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Well the problem is that I am using 1.13 API to make my plugin compatible from 1.8 to 1.21
Using 1.21 API It worked but I can't use it

private ItemStack createCustomHead(String textureUrl) {
        ItemStack head = new ItemStack(Material.PLAYER_HEAD);
        SkullMeta meta = (SkullMeta) head.getItemMeta();

        if (meta == null) return head;

        PlayerProfile profile = Bukkit.createPlayerProfile(UUID.randomUUID());
        PlayerTextures textures = profile.getTextures();

        try {
            URL url = new URL(textureUrl);
            textures.setSkin(url);
        } catch (MalformedURLException e) {
            e.printStackTrace();
            return head;
        }

        profile.setTextures(textures);
        meta.setOwnerProfile(profile);
        head.setItemMeta(meta);

        return head;
    }

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I'm not really familiar with player textures sadly

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Alright so it’s something in your reflection

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Personally I would just use a module system

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 10:50 AM

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personally i'd drop 1.8 support

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:51 AM

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young knoll Personally I would just use a module system

Alright thanks I will lookinto that

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:52 AM

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thorn isle personally i'd drop 1.8 support

Yh I though about it cuz it's a real pain, but for minigames plugin it's helpfull to support 1.8 since many servers are still running their networks on that old version

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 10:52 AM

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Basically you just load code based on what version the server is

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Usually gonna be faster than a lot of reflection as well

tiny mountain Apr 28, 2025, 10:52 AM

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young knoll Basically you just load code based on what version the server is

I get it, thank you so much !

eager crescent Apr 28, 2025, 10:58 AM

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coach em up

true cosmos Apr 28, 2025, 11:20 AM

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echo basalt you gotta go bonkers but goes a bit like ``` MetadataKey<T> (String name, Type<...

thanks for sharing this im going to try it

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:33 PM

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guys im trying to develop multi-versioned gui example

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i followed ?gui instruction clearly

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and its work for latest spigot versions

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but i want to support 1.17-1.21.5

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i have this structure but dunno which class i should load into core

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:35 PM

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people sure do love making more work for themselves

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:36 PM

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example project yml :

name: MenuPlugin
main: me.erano.com.Plugin
author: Erano
description: Menu Plugin
version: 1.0
api-version: 1.21
commands:
  menu:
    description: open menu
    usage: /menu

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core project yml that supports 1.17-1.21

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when i remove api-version it wont work for 1.21.3-1.21.1

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the project uses 1.21.5 spigot dependency

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it was work in 1.21.3 when api-version: 1.21 setted in yml

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:39 PM

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better off just supporting 1.20.4 and above, not sure why you insist on supporting versions older then that

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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i want to support them

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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you want to support them for no reason? o.O

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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its ok 1.20.4-1.21.5

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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https://bstats.org/global/bukkit#minecraftVersion

bStats - Plugin Metrics made with <3

bStats collects data for plugin authors. It's free and easy to use!

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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but again i also need multi-project structure

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just want to know how to abstract these spigot classes

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and which class should i load

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into core

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what is the best way i mean

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:41 PM

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if you looke at the versions, the amount of people using versions below 1.20.4 significantly drops

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:42 PM

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if even nobody uses 1.17 i will support them just want to learn things

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:42 PM

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trim quest and which class should i load

ideally you would detect the version of the server running and use the class version accordingly

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you can either use reflection, you can use static enum or something else

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:42 PM

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i will use reflection

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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ok, then its pretty straight forward then

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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i have samples to track

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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not sure what help you are wanting now 🙂

smoky anchor Apr 28, 2025, 12:43 PM

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trim quest if even nobody uses 1.17 i will support them just want to learn things

And you will learn outdated information (speaking of API)
Good job

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:44 PM

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i mean am i should load every class that i use for each version

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:44 PM

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smoky anchor And you will learn outdated information (speaking of API) Good job

it never hurts, I have a lot of outdated information remembered

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how else you going to load the class you need?

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:44 PM

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arent there are common interfaces, classes

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:45 PM

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not sure what you are asking

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you compile all the classes into the project, select the class you need based on the version of server running

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:47 PM

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I guess i have to load first of all these: ItemStack, InventoryEvents, Player

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for each version

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right

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because i use them in my implementation

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:47 PM

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no, you don't need to load anything until you need it

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however if you have objects that are required for all the other classes you could use a single class for those

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so that you are not having to load them all the time

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:49 PM

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for example

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 12:49 PM

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what about muh drag event

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:49 PM

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I generally use an enum to load classes though

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or to load the appropriate ones anyways

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I find it a bit more cleaner then using reflection

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:50 PM

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do you have example on github may i observe

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 12:50 PM

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you could just google for examples of loading objects using enums

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 12:51 PM

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ok thank you will research

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 1:44 PM

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the more i do coding the more i realize coding to an interface is a bad practice

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you should code to class unless you have to have two or more implementations of the same thing

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am I wrong in saying that?

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its easier to refactor than try to guess the future

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unless you're making some kind of API for a library i dont see the need of interfaces for things which are implemented once

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:49 PM

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mortal hare the more i do coding the more i realize coding to an interface is a bad practice

entirely depends on what goals you have

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or well, requirements per say

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 1:50 PM

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The reason you interface in non libraries is usually tests. Otherwise you'll be spawning up your entire softwares dependency layout for every unit test semi quickly

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If you don't write tests, it's w/e

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 1:50 PM

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you are discovering what i like to call the "taking any paradigm or principle no matter how sensible to its most absurd clown-car conclusion is a bad idea" principle

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yes, interfaces are useful and flexible and it's generally a good idea to use them (mindfully)

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but there's always a "too far"

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:58 PM

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I mean yeah, if you go out of the way to code in a not oo-way, interfaces like quite powerful, for one with lambdas and method references, but then also like if you wna statically define some union type w sealed

worldly ingot Apr 28, 2025, 1:59 PM

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IInterfaceable, IInterfaced, IInterfacingInterface

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 1:59 PM

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🎶

worldly ingot Apr 28, 2025, 1:59 PM

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You have to know how and when to balance inheritance vs composition

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 2:00 PM

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120%

worldly ingot Apr 28, 2025, 2:01 PM

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Is that your balance?

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 2:04 PM

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my balance, too, is 120% of my current balance

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($0)

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 2:10 PM

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mortal hare the more i do coding the more i realize coding to an interface is a bad practice

we are not coding to interface for every scenario

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it depends

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did you read GoF design pattern book

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you will realize there are many relationships between classes for different scenarios

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oop is not only about blindly abstracting classes

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 2:27 PM

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yeah what

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I don't write an interface for every single class I make lmao

worldly ingot Apr 28, 2025, 2:29 PM

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>:( but they look clean

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AND BUKKIT DOES IT!

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 2:29 PM

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worldly ingot \>:( but they look clean

not my fault your classes are dirty

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take a shower 😷

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 2:29 PM

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"and bukkit does it" is not a valid reason to do something the same way clueless

worldly ingot Apr 28, 2025, 2:34 PM

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slender elbow take a shower 😷

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-meme-that's-crazy-gif-17409389637579952123

Tenor

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 2:42 PM

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slender elbow I don't write an interface for every single class I make lmao

some people thinks oop that way.

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people who dont know how oop works is oop hater mostly.

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they think rewrite things x500 and writing 3million line of code is not problem for them

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this could be no problem for you but for enterprises it will be loss of billion dollars.

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:04 PM

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does anyone know what would be a really efficient way of copying/pasting/modifying blocks in really high rates without destroying a server?

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right now I'm using workload distribution to spread out the tasks

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but I'm using world edit's api

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:05 PM

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depending on worldedit and leaving it up to the server admin whether to use base worldedit or fawe

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this is both the safest and the fastest solution, though which one it is depends on the admin

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:06 PM

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im in development chat

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wait

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:07 PM

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you can also try to do nms block placement nonsense yourself, but this will probably never be as fast or as stable as fawe, even if it isn't particularly stable to begin with

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:07 PM

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thorn isle you can also try to do nms block placement nonsense yourself, but this will prob...

so many abbreviations

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:07 PM

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fawe as in fast async world edit

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being a substitute for worldedit that is considerably faster and doesn't require you to do workload distribution yourself

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but having a somewhat undeserved reputation of running into errors

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personally over the course of many years i've only seen it mess things up only once, sometime in 1.8

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:09 PM

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thorn isle fawe as in fast async world edit

exactly what I need. I place thousands of blocks and lava every other minute on some really loaded servers

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okay. so moving my block placement methods and potentially change dependency to fast async world edit?

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:10 PM

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afaik you can just build against and use the regular worldedit api

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and if the server admin chooses to use fawe on their server instead of worldedit, it will take over the api and do what you want it to do

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so smaller servers can continue to use the slower but stabler worldedit, but larger servers have the option of switching to fawe if they need it

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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thorn isle afaik you can just build against and use the regular worldedit api

so shade in fawe you mean? and keep world edit provided

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:11 PM

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no, fawe takes over the api at runtime, you don't need to do any changes in your project i don't think

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:12 PM

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i never did this before so sorry if I seem lost

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:12 PM

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just put a note about it in your plugin description or something so admins are aware of the option

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"if the plugin lags your server to shit, try installing fawe instead of worldedit"

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:13 PM

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I see

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:13 PM

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thorn isle afaik you can just build against and use the regular worldedit api

one last question..

what do you mean by build against?

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:13 PM

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you said you're using the worldedit api, yes

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:14 PM

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yes. I've been using the api so far

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:14 PM

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that means you're building against the worldedit api

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:14 PM

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ahhhh

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:14 PM

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as in, the worldedit api classes are what the compiler compiles your classes against

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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okay..

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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you are also presumably building against the bukkit api

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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yep

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oh wait

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sorry

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paper

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:15 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066841239992934410/1251680366297612398/caption.gif

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(which is now technically paper kek)

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:16 PM

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okay so same thing

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man getting used to all these terms

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Kyori adventure got merged with paper recently, still a funny gif tho

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:18 PM

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worthy yarrow Kyori adventure got merged with paper recently, still a funny gif tho

oh I just started using adventure for my first project

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only for minimessages tho

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so far

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:18 PM

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I still use spigot and just shade all of adventure for minimessage kek

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:19 PM

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hm.. but Im still shading in adventure

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do I not need to do that?

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:19 PM

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I don't think so anymore

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:19 PM

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paper includes adventure now

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:19 PM

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wait.. but I do need to do that..

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so im using spigot? 😭

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:20 PM

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so no you don't need to shade it or even include it as a dependency, as it is a transitive dependency of paper-api and will be included in both the compile classpath and server runtime regardless

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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If you are using paper that is

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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            <groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
            <artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
            <version>1.21.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>```

tribal quarry Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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Hello, is there plugins like SWM or ASWM (just plugin I mean, not whole server forks like Advanced Slime Paper) that supports slime world generation format with ZSTD compression & loading from DB/File/any custom loader that is available right now? just a simple plugin, not a whole paper fork or anything bigger, just as simple as grinderwolf's SWM

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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yeah that's no paper, you'll still need to shade in adventure

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:21 PM

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wait so what's this???

            <groupId>co.aikar</groupId>
            <artifactId>acf-paper</artifactId>
            <version>0.5.0-SNAPSHOT</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>```

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:22 PM

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aikar's advanced command framework or something

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not paper itself

#

prooobably shouldn't be using that on spigot since it maybe targets the paper runtime specifically

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:22 PM

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ahhh I was so confused for so long

tribal quarry Apr 28, 2025, 3:22 PM

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tribal quarry Hello, is there plugins like SWM or ASWM (just plugin I mean, not whole server f...

bump

somber scarab Apr 28, 2025, 3:23 PM

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well.. I'll be removing it once I finish merging this version

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:24 PM

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i never liked acf anyway

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 3:25 PM

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cloud stonks

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 3:26 PM

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is 1.21.5 is R4 ?

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i guess it is

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wiki is not up to date

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/spigot-nms-and-minecraft-versions-1-21/

#

#

i thought 1.21.4 and 1.21.5 share same interface

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 3:33 PM

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minor versions now come with nms changes, so the craftbukkit package is relocated accordingly

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.5 was a relatively major update despite being a "minor" version change

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 3:37 PM

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i created different projects for different interfaces anyway. i seperate R3 and R4 for 1.21

grim hound Apr 28, 2025, 3:47 PM

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since which version

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can you send multiple resource packs to the player

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(in packets ofc)

sacred knot Apr 28, 2025, 3:51 PM

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Returning to plugin development from 5-6 years ago. Is paper the new standard? It seems so but not sure on the market share

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 3:53 PM

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Could just dev for both

sacred knot Apr 28, 2025, 3:55 PM

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I saw that paper hard forked, so I’ve been using their documentation and handling things the way they seem to (Brigadier commands, Components, etc.). I know spigot’s way works for now but from my understanding they are deprecated and moving away from that. Maybe I’m misunderstanding that

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 3:58 PM

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keep in mind, if you want to upload to spigot's platform it must work with base spigot

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 3:58 PM

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sacred knot Returning to plugin development from 5-6 years ago. Is paper the new standard? I...

they are not standard they have good marketing pr

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but some people calls it as propaganda

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 3:59 PM

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Also ngl, there's no guarantee they won't break something you're using lol

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plugin of mine works flawlessly on spigot, but immediately breaks because of dumb shit the paper devs have done kek

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 4:00 PM

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yeah they also limited for some in-game features @sacred knot . Spigot is still goat

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:03 PM

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trim quest but some people calls it as propaganda

paper team secretly employs a large set of social media experts to sway the public opinion /s

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:05 PM

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vagrant stratus plugin of mine works flawlessly on spigot, but immediately breaks because of dum...

you see there are these things called issue trackers

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could like, report it

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:06 PM

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sacred knot Returning to plugin development from 5-6 years ago. Is paper the new standard? I...

like 80% on modern versions

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a number of high-profile plugins have dropped spigot support altogether

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:06 PM

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blazing ocean you see there are these things called issue trackers

Not worth the effort

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:06 PM

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sigh

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it's just so pointless to not submit issues and then complain about those issues not being fixed

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:07 PM

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its not like the issue is caused by obf or anything

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:07 PM

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vagrant stratus plugin of mine works flawlessly on spigot, but immediately breaks because of dum...

see I'm not crazy

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:08 PM

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Well at least now it is fine xD

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Previously I would have indeed argued that kind of incompatibility should have been reported but given hardfork has happend, yea, not much point in opening issues

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:09 PM

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^ Given I don't support such breaking, it's easier for me to just drop paper compat & just go about it as I have.
If it works, it works. If it doesn't, oh well

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:10 PM

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what happened to ur antimalware paper fork

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:10 PM

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I ain't touching that when there's a likely hood something will break next version kek

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I do still have the code though

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Not sure what version that's on 🤔

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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looks like somebody thinks that paper will just oh, I may just like, delete this API and this feature, like no

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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if I get helix modules loading properly (for the 900th time) will you implement AM as a module? 🥺 👉👈

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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blazing ocean looks like somebody thinks that paper will just `oh, I may just like, delete thi...

they did

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1.21.5

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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?

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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some biome stuff

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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WHAT

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:11 PM

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broke a freshly made plugin

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#getByKey on the biome enum or smt idk

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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my only two gripes with paper are that they push for adventure over legacy strings way too hard, and that everything in the new api is marked experimental and my entire codebase has turned yellow from the warnings

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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biome isnt an enum anymore

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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have you considered that mojang made biomes data driven

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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at least keep the class and accessor from keys

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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oh yeah let me give you an enum value that doesnt exist anymore hold on

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:12 PM

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or do what spigot did once and translate old usage

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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but no, Biome can return custom biomes

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tested it

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:13 PM

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remote swallow what happened to ur antimalware paper fork

Also, given I'm rewriting the scanner itself to be remote it's better to wait until that's finished so I can just copy-pasta the send, receive, and handler classes & code 😎

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 4:13 PM

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how can an enum be data driven

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🤔

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Biome is an interface now

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that was a spigot change even prior to hardfork

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Yeah, fair I read it wrong, still #getByKey doesn't exist on paper anymore

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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weeeelll you can asm a data driven enum together, provided all the driving happens before other classes access it

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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which is... why?

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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getByKey also doesn't exist on spigot either

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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but it doesn't really make any sense building against such an enum

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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it does

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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✨ registry ✨

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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I'm using it

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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I am looking at the src

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what getByKey are you talking about

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Biome.getBiome exists

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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sounds like ike is outdated1 outdated2 outdated3

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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Biome.valueOf exists

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:14 PM

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1.21.5

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hold

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ah

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Biome#getKeyOrNull()

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mb

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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5Head

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Yea

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that is a spigot method added post hardfork

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we didn't remove it

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we never had it

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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mb I'm dumb 2x

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still

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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in fact i would quite like for biome to have become such a "dynamic enum" so we could continue to get the performance benefits of EnumSet/Map at runtime, but it wouldn't really support reloading datapacks or registries

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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Well it is part of spigots weird "maybe in registry" stuff

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:15 PM

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thorn isle in fact i would quite like for biome to have become such a "dynamic enum" so we ...

you're not thinking with portals

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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RegistryAware yea

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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recreate the enum with native code

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supports**** reloading

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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well yeah the idea is to build the enum with asm from the datapacks etc. at startup

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however to get that to work with reloads, you'd have to reload all plugin classes as well

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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The fork doesn't seem too outdated lol
It's only on 1.20.2 @remote swallow

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:16 PM

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which i don't think vanilla /reload is expected to do

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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thorn isle however to get that to work with reloads, you'd have to reload all plugin classe...

The idea is to instead do something funny typing

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don't need dynamically created enums

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you just need the network int id

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which the server has

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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chat

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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alternatively i'd be quite content with a RegistrySet that uses a similar ordinal indexing scheme as enums but supports being rebuilt at runtime

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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/reload starts a proxy which keeps players connected and restarts the server

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:17 PM

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which is what you're describing yes

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Issue naturally being, how do handle things being gone

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:18 PM

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mem leak duh

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:18 PM

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eternal night Issue naturally being, how do handle things *being gone*

we went full circle ids -> names -> ids

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 4:18 PM

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shouldn't be an issue as long as you don't build against things that are gone

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:18 PM

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Actually. I do have the client-code basically done. I can quickly fork & add that 👀

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:19 PM

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rough drift if I get helix modules loading properly (for the 900th time) will you implement ...

optic?

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😔

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:21 PM

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rough drift if I get helix modules loading properly (for the 900th time) will you implement ...

Probably not. I don't want to spend time working on something for a project which might not even get used lol
Paper? Drag & Drop classes + server jar and not many lines of code
Helix? Learning an entirely different API on top of everything else

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Also, I personally wouldn't use helix so there's no reason for me to even bother with it to begin with kek

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:21 PM

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I mean, there is the helix-spigot-module

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it translates spigot <-> helix

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(note: not a reimpl)

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(mileage varies)

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:22 PM

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I trust those as much as I trust paper's.
I don't.

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:22 PM

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fair enough(?)

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:22 PM

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not worth the effort kek

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plus I'd have to apply the same forking treatment to helix as I'm doing w/ paper to get something that's not poorly impl'd so that's even more digging around code I'm never gonna really use outside of that one program

quaint mantle Apr 28, 2025, 4:32 PM

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do yall know of a plugin that disables mob spawning in a certain amounts of chunks of a play that has the command toggled

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:32 PM

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vagrant stratus plus I'd have to apply the same forking treatment to helix as I'm doing w/ paper...

that's the one thing you won't need to do! at worst it's one module to look through (the plugin module), though plugin loading is treated like loading a config so you can just listen for the relevant data lol

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:33 PM

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Nope, I'd need to fork it so I can modify the module loading kekw

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:33 PM

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module loading is done by the module loader module

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which is the only hardcoded module that gets loaded

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:33 PM

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how does it load modules if the module loading is a module

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:33 PM

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though it can still be swapped out

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:33 PM

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yes. so I'd still have to fork & learn APIs for something I won't use lol

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:34 PM

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remote swallow how does it load modules if the module loading is a module

it specifies in it's metadata it is part of the helix core group, and it has a flag named "first-start" :P

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the module loader is separate from the module itself

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it just requires the right metadata

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so for all of the version / duplicate / compat checks it's not handled by the core loader

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bit funky

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but this means you get full control over what's happening

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:36 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-want-to-touch-that-chef-south-park-s1e6-death-gif-21526130

Tenor

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:36 PM

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hey

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the idea is that nothing is locked in, so I'm making sure of that

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except for yk, the required stuff like load order for the first module

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:37 PM

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which makes it even more of a bitch to work with, since there's no guarantee code even will exist

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:37 PM

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there is a guarantee that the api exists

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you should not be concerned with internals

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:38 PM

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Depending on how helix works, I might have to be concerned with internals lmfao

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:39 PM

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you'd only be concerned with internals if you need to debug internals

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otherwise it's designed to just allow relying on the API, specifically the data processing API which handles most of the work

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:40 PM

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ehhhh. you can figure the mess out once I release a client project LMFAO

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:41 PM

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fair point

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:41 PM

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Given how it works... I'm not liking it from a impl something properly standpoint

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:42 PM

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wdym

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I like feedback, gimme

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:43 PM

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rough drift the idea is that nothing is locked in, so I'm making sure of that

.
Don't want to touch a project where it's quite easy for a certain thing to not exist, because it got swapped out by something else or whatever

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:43 PM

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yeah no the idea is that internals are useless

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do not rely on internals

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Except for if I do have to rely on internals kek

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 4:45 PM

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imagine when ike finds out people arent meant to rely on mc internals but still do

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:45 PM

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in my case, I straight up do have to rely on internals lmfao

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Example, to intercept plugin loading:

A message is created and broadcasted to the core channel
<any filters, processors, etc>
A handler (typically, yk, the module / plugin manager) will read the final message and work accordingly

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all channels support middleware

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Yea, I wouldn't do it that way since it means a different module could potentially fuck with shit

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I'd add the changes before a single module gets loaded 😎

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:48 PM

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vagrant stratus Yea, I wouldn't do it that way since it means a *different* module could potenti...

yes, that is entirely the point

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:48 PM

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rough drift yes, *that* is entirely the point

Which is fucking stupid from a security stand-point so I'd have to fuck with the loading code itself

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 4:48 PM

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guys i need open source plugin that supports many versions via multi-module(maven or gradle) structure

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as an example, want to observe how people implements things

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:49 PM

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I'm not gonna use your message send/receive/modify system because of how easy it'd be for a different module to outright screw with the AV

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same reason I don't make a spigot or paper plugin, but modify the server code itself

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I'd have to dig through allll the code to see when, where, and how modules are loaded and then impl the necessary code changes to be before even a single module gets loaded so it's properly secured

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:50 PM

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vagrant stratus Which is fucking stupid from a security stand-point so I'd have to fuck with the...

fair point

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:50 PM

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You're entire project is an absolute security nightmare

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:50 PM

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vagrant stratus I'd have to dig through allll the code to see when, where, and how modules are l...

Just add a step to the launcher then lol

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:50 PM

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Nope. Not gonna trust it

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:51 PM

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It's no different than installing random plugins what

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:51 PM

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If a third-party can manipulate the AV in any way, the method's fucking stupid

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e.g. a spigot plugin, or using a messaging system

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:52 PM

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oh I mean yeah I didn't think about that

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which is why I said fair

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I completely forgot that an AV needs to be "isolated" technically

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:52 PM

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vagrant stratus I'd have to dig through allll the code to see when, where, and how modules are l...

so, again, this.

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:53 PM

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rough drift Just add a step to the launcher then lol

or this, you can just add the av task to the launcher so it runs even before the server

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:53 PM

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or no since it means a different task can likely fuck with that one just by loading before mine

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which is the entire issue with spigot plugins to begin with

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:54 PM

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tasks are not modular

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they are only defined by

A) Me
B) A fork of the launcher

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they are like:

Get mc
Get libraries
Get helix
Do remapping
Start

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:55 PM

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ehhh

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:55 PM

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I mean

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better from a security perspective 😂

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:55 PM

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But not from a support perspective, as it means it can't support other launchers

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so, therefore, have to fork helix

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:56 PM

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I mean, fair enough ig, you'd have to edit helix itself then

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:56 PM

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yes.

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that's what I've been saying.

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:56 PM

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fair point

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I see it now 😭

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:56 PM

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vagrant stratus I'd have to dig through allll the code to see when, where, and how modules are l...

.

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:57 PM

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I mean there is not much code

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:58 PM

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The only non-shit implementation helix can have is a fork of the helix internals lmfao
I'd still have to supply an official launcher anyways, but for maximum compat it'd have to be a helix fork

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Just straight up not worth it

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 4:58 PM

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vagrant stratus The ***only*** non-shit implementation helix can have is a fork of the helix int...

fym

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what'd I do 😭

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 4:59 PM

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motions to the entirety of helix
It's a complete mess to support

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:00 PM

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it's no different than plugins running on spigot & paper (pre hard-fork), the internals weren't really 1:1 and yet stuff still worked

remote swallow Apr 28, 2025, 5:00 PM

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helix reminds me of

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:00 PM

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remote swallow helix reminds me of

precisely

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but yk

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someone has to try

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 5:01 PM

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rough drift it's no different than plugins running on spigot & paper (pre hard-fork), the in...

Yes, and I have to outright ignore implementing a plugin and instead modifying the plugin loader itself lol

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same way I'd have to ignore the "proper" way to implement things in helix

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:03 PM

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I mean yes fair enough

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 5:07 PM

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also:

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https://tenor.com/view/surprise-tool-mickey-mouse-mickey-clubhouse-gif-18764497

Tenor

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:08 PM

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what where when why who

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 5:09 PM

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surprise. tool.

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:09 PM

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oh so literally a surprise tool

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I'm scared

vagrant stratus Apr 28, 2025, 5:12 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/wednesday-wednesday-addams-wednesday-addams-be-afraid-addams-addams-family-gif-26115980

Tenor

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 5:50 PM

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i wonder how would bukkit api would look like if its event system would be switched to rxjava's observables

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or java's Flow API

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:54 PM

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kinda what I'm doing

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 5:54 PM

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completely event driven bukkit api would be kinda neat

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:54 PM

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but in a much more general sense

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:54 PM

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mortal hare completely event driven bukkit api would be kinda neat

well, it's not the bukkit API per se but yes

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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mortal hare i wonder how would bukkit api would look like if its event system would be switc...

abstract class Event -> subject, observable, publisher, event
Listener interface -> observer, listener, subscriber

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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pretty much everything is done like:

Plugin data -> API impl -> Message -> Channel -> <Middleware> -> Destination (any)

and optionally backwards

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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its already implemented with observer design pattern

main comet Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Hello im new to this skripting and i created a few skript with plugin Skript and i dont know hot to make them start automaticly beacause im new to this stuff

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 5:55 PM

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main comet Hello im new to this skripting and i created a few skript with plugin Skript and...

ask skript themselves

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 5:56 PM

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trim quest its already implemented with observer design pattern

yes but libs like javarx allow for Stream API like data manipulation and for bukkit api you need to implement that data manipulation by yourself

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 5:56 PM

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in java there are 4-5 different implementation for observer design pattern @mortal hare

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gof way, deprecated observer/observable way, bean way, flow api

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etc

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it was my study topic

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when i implement all of gof patterns

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 5:58 PM

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mortal hare i wonder how would bukkit api would look like if its event system would be switc...

it wouldn't be all that different, bukkit events are just observables in the end

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 5:58 PM

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yeah there are 2 context

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 5:58 PM

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RxJava would allow for composing event handlers or something of the like so it'd be cool API wise but that's just about it

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 5:59 PM

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My shop GUI is compromised... players can just take stuff from it by holding down a hotbar slot key and closing the inventory. How the hell can I fix this? The InventoryClickEvent is supposed to be cancelled... what do I do?
https://youtu.be/-D0wK4shoxc

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 5:59 PM

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earnest girder My shop GUI is compromised... players can just take stuff from it by holding dow...

do you cancel all the other inventory events?

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that is, inventory drag mainly but there's also others like inventory move item

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:00 PM

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well those usually get cancelled by inventory click

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 6:00 PM

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@mortal hare
observer ≈ listener ≈subscriber
subject ≈ observable ≈ publisher ≈ event

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:00 PM

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earnest girder well those usually get cancelled by inventory click

they are not

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 6:01 PM

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not "=" its "≈"

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:01 PM

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earnest girder My shop GUI is compromised... players can just take stuff from it by holding dow...

let's see code

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:01 PM

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sly topaz they are not

how come it usually cancels it then?

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 6:01 PM

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trim quest <@277517157053628418> observer ≈ listener ≈subscriber subject ≈ observable ≈ pu...

I do understand that, but reactive extensions are very convenient in terms of how much functions they supply for data manipulation

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:02 PM

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earnest girder how come it usually cancels it then?

Inventory click may cancel actions which happen before a drag event is called, but that isn't necessarily always the case, hence why they're sibling events and not just parent-child

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:02 PM

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thorn isle let's see code

https://paste.md-5.net/bosivehota.java

https://paste.md-5.net/kibaduxeji.java

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:02 PM

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        if(event.getClickedInventory() instanceof PlayerInventory) {
            return;
        }

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this is your issue right here; inventory interactions can modify not just the inventory the player clicks, but the other one as well

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:03 PM

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hmmm

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:03 PM

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e.g. shift clicking an item in the player inventory will also modify the top inventory by inserting the item in it, but event.getClickedInventory() is the player inventory

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:03 PM

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but I cancel the event first

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:04 PM

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this'd cancel all events for all inventories then, no? is the listener even registered

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how are you calling this? if this is only called for events that click the gui inventory specifically, the issue will be the same

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:06 PM

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thorn isle this'd cancel all events for all inventories then, no? is the listener even regi...

I have other classes

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here

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https://paste.md-5.net/bosivehota.java

https://paste.md-5.net/kibaduxeji.java

https://paste.md-5.net/nasekigiga.cs

https://paste.md-5.net/zahusufipi.cs

https://paste.md-5.net/orasiqitut.java

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:07 PM

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InventoryHandler handler = this.activeInventories.get(event.getInventory());

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try event.getView().getTopInventory() instead

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:08 PM

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ok

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:08 PM

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beyond that, make sure that your code actually gets called

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:08 PM

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it 100% does

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theres delegation

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:09 PM

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put in a sysout at the very start of your listener and then right before where you cancel the event, and see if one gets printed without the other

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then backtrack from there and see where it falls through

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:09 PM

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im confused, all the code is definitely running

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everything is working correctly except for this bug

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:10 PM

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earnest girder im confused, all the code is definitely running

how are you so sure

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:10 PM

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because the shop wouldnt work if the code didnt run?

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:11 PM

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put a sysout and see

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that the shop code runs sometimes doesn't mean it runs always

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this is what we call a sanity check

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:12 PM

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ok

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in the video I linked you can see I have to try it 20 times to get the bug to work

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its something to do with closing the inventory at the same time I hotbar-slot-click the item

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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are you in creative?

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:13 PM

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yes

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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the creative client does not always respect cancellation

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try in survival

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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ah

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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creative is kinda annoying when it comes to inventory events

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cursor is completely client-sided, among other side-effects

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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damn it just did it in survival

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oh but wait

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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time to throw sysouts at it

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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the item dissappeared when i clicked it

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:14 PM

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yeah that's cancellation inventory desync

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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that's fine then, just a client desync

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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ok

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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the survival client respects the update it receives from the server later, destroying the item

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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what if I logged out after

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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the creative client goes "trust me bro" and tells the server to respawn the item

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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before it synced up

thorn isle Apr 28, 2025, 6:15 PM

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the item doesn't exist on the server

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it's specifically because the creative client can arbitrarily tell the server to spawn shit in that it reappears on the server in creative

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:17 PM

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ok -- I tested bugging it and then logging out before it synced up, and the item is gone. I guess its all working fine, thanks for the help

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:17 PM

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you could try to guess whether an item was duplicated in the creative inventory by checking whether the cursor in the creative inventory event is the same as the last hotbar switch click type or something, but that's only if you care about creative anyway

earnest girder Apr 28, 2025, 6:17 PM

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yeah no one will be in creative so no worries

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if someones in creative I have bigger problems on my hands lol

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 6:28 PM

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Wouldnt it be cool if you can listen to events like this

Set<UUID> joinedPlayers = new HashSet<UUID>();
playerJoinEvent.map(event => event.getPlayer().GetUUID()).subscribe(uuid => joinedPlayers.add(uuid));
playerQuitEvent.map(event => event.getPlayer().GetUUID()).subscribe(uuid => joinedPlayers.remove(uuid));

with rxjava you can, i can see how much bukkit plugins would shrink just because how much verbosity people need to listen to particular events

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:29 PM

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I mean, there's nothing stopping you from doing something like that with bukkit's current event system really

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 6:29 PM

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yes ik

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:29 PM

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just slap a spliterator implementation to a custom EventExecutor and make them a stream of events

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 6:29 PM

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but it would be kinda cool to have native support for it

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:29 PM

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eh, it's fancy but not without a cost

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there'd be quite the overhead for high-throughput events like player move

mortal hare Apr 28, 2025, 6:30 PM

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you could probably pass static method references

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but yeah it could be a problem

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but i dont think that's problematic much

sly topaz Apr 28, 2025, 6:32 PM

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eh, it'd probably increase GC pauses on a larger scale, given how many plugins would have listeners for it so I wouldn't be able to say

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it could be made fast, but it'd be annoying to implement

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not to say the bukkit event system is perfect, the handler list collection impl is a mess, but even with that it works fairly well for what's worth

urban cloak Apr 28, 2025, 6:39 PM

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well servers on that scale probably just need to not use that feature

ivory sleet Apr 28, 2025, 6:44 PM

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mortal hare Wouldnt it be cool if you can listen to events like this ```java Set<UUID> joine...

if this was Haskell or like maybe Clojure Id agree w u

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sadly even w rxjava, u cant reap the full benefits of functional programming

drowsy bramble Apr 28, 2025, 6:53 PM

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is there a way to get an offline player's head to put in an inventory with spigot 1.18.2?

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 7:00 PM

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drowsy bramble is there a way to get an offline player's head to put in an inventory with spigo...

yes?

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<dependency>
  <groupId>com.mojang</groupId>
  <artifactId>authlib</artifactId>
  <version>3.11.50</version>
  <scope>provided</scope>
</dependency>```

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you can create or get skulls with that dependency

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blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 7:10 PM

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and why not just use SkullMeta#setOwnerProfile

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 7:13 PM

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i developed this for 1.16.5 i guess

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dont know

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 7:57 PM

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i mean, it isn't difficult to make a reactive-adapting EventExecutor

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but the fact that the event system is not prepared for all the asynchonous nature of reactive programming means you lose all benefits the second you need to mutate the event based on something coming from some other stream

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 7:59 PM

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how do you know that

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 8:00 PM

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all you gotta do is .join() :Clueless:

eternal night Apr 28, 2025, 8:00 PM

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slender elbow all you gotta do is .join() :Clueless:

can I then call my plugin ✨ async ✨ on spigot

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:00 PM

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only valid use of CFs

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 8:00 PM

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blazing ocean only valid use of CFs

what is CFs

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:01 PM

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completable futures

rough drift Apr 28, 2025, 8:05 PM

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mortal hare Wouldnt it be cool if you can listen to events like this ```java Set<UUID> joine...

that's basically what my API is but slightly more granular :P

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 8:06 PM

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blazing ocean only valid use of CFs

CloudFlare

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:10 PM

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capitalising the f should be criminal

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 8:18 PM

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CloudflAre

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:20 PM

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cLouDfLARe

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 8:21 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/clouds-lense-flare-peaceful-sky-gif-22356861

Tenor

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 8:21 PM

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Rad you wanna test packed for me

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:21 PM

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worthy yarrow Rad you wanna test packed for me

not really I'm in bed rn

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 8:22 PM

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Dang I knew it

wet breach Apr 28, 2025, 8:22 PM

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they probably have a sky window and are looking at clouds

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:22 PM

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the window is behind me so it's hard to look outside whilst laying down

worthy yarrow Apr 28, 2025, 8:22 PM

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Nah no clouds exist in Germany

blazing ocean Apr 28, 2025, 8:23 PM

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true, spy drones

warm mica Apr 28, 2025, 8:23 PM

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mortal hare Wouldnt it be cool if you can listen to events like this ```java Set<UUID> joine...

Let's not embrace the worst aspect of rxjava

drowsy bramble Apr 28, 2025, 8:46 PM

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how would i make it so that an EventException catch block won't throw an error if it's not implemented?

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I don't know java @SuppressWarnings() options very well

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it's for an InventoryClickEvent so i don't receive a console error any time someone clicks on an empty slot or outside of the inventory

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 8:49 PM

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uh, maybe fix your code so it doesn't error to begin with?

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in any case, it isn't your code the one throwing an EventException, it's the server throwing/logging one when your code throws some other unchecked exception, like a NPE or IOOBE

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so regardless the solution is "fix your code"

drowsy bramble Apr 28, 2025, 8:50 PM

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slender elbow in any case, it isn't your code the one throwing an EventException, it's the ser...

it's saying "Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "org.bukkit.inventory.ItemStack.getType()" because "item" is null"

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it uses a switch case. would you suggest not using switch then to do it?

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 8:51 PM

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the ItemStack itself is null

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not the type

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you are trying to call getType () on a null ItemStack

drowsy bramble Apr 28, 2025, 8:52 PM

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it occurs when i click an inventory slot or outside the inventory

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 8:52 PM

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yes, because no item was clicked

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thus, the clicked item is null

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so you cannot call getType

drowsy bramble Apr 28, 2025, 8:52 PM

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how would i fix it then?

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or can i rather?

slender elbow Apr 28, 2025, 8:53 PM

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if (clicked item == null) {
empty slot or outside inventory
}

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 9:13 PM

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slender elbow uh, maybe fix your code so it doesn't error to begin with?

Real

young knoll Apr 28, 2025, 9:19 PM

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Try catch around everything you write

buoyant viper Apr 28, 2025, 9:35 PM

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young knoll Try catch around everything you write

me with my fuckin http server project

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Hello, I am currently learning about Spigot NMS. I am trying to understand when and which one I should use:

net.minecraft.server.level.ServerPlayer // NMS
org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_21_R4.entity.CraftPlayer // CraftBukkit
org.bukkit.entity.Player // Bukkit

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 9:37 PM

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trim quest

im using bad practices sometimes just because this

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:37 PM

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Use org.bukkit.entity.Player an much as possible

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When that's not enough net.minecraft.server.level.ServerPlayer can be used as a last resort

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CraftPlayer is mainly used to get the handle to the server player

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 9:38 PM

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can you give sample for 3 of these

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use cases

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no code required

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i just want to know

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:40 PM

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ServerPlayer can be used to access the connection so you can send/capture packets

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CraftPlayer to getHandle to the ServerPlayer

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And Player to do everything else really

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 9:40 PM

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chrome beacon CraftPlayer to getHandle to the ServerPlayer

for what, why i have to handle player

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:41 PM

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getHandle is a method in CraftPlayer that returns the ServerPlayer instance

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You will generally find it in every craftbukkit entity wrapper

trim quest Apr 28, 2025, 9:42 PM

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chrome beacon getHandle is a method in CraftPlayer that returns the ServerPlayer instance

oh now i understand this, thank you

chrome beacon Apr 28, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Yeah getHandle in that context returns the nms server

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which contains the recentTps field that vanilla uses

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:01 AM

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Is there a way to send a link to a player so it opens the "Are you sure you want to open the following website?" screen?

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I'm geussing it's a hardcoded security measure preventing it?

drowsy helm Apr 29, 2025, 8:05 AM

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vernal oasis Is there a way to send a link to a player so it opens the "Are you sure you want...

If you meant doesnt open, then no

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:07 AM

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Like, send this screen instead of having to click the link in chat:

remote swallow Apr 29, 2025, 8:07 AM

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That screen is most likely client side

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:12 AM

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Can I make it work off a gui click?

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:18 AM

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It's most definitely client side. It only opens when you click a link in chat.

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:19 AM

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vernal oasis Like, send this screen instead of having to click the link in chat:

What would be the point of a security measure if you could bypass it

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Every security measure is bypassable...?

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:21 AM

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vernal oasis Every security measure is bypassable...?

You are asking for a zero day?

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:21 AM

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That is just false

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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vernal oasis Like, send this screen instead of having to click the link in chat:

it is

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wat

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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I guessed so, dang. lol

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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i repied to wrrong message

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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smoky anchor That is just false

No...?

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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smoky anchor It's most definitely client side. It only opens when you click a link in chat.

it is*

vernal oasis Apr 29, 2025, 8:23 AM

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Yeah, I realized what you meant lol

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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yo

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anybody ever done anything with libby?

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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grim hound anybody ever done anything with libby?

?ask

undone axleBOT Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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sure

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so

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uh

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doesn't work

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downloads

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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?notworking

undone axleBOT Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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lol

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:24 AM

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I try to load the classes

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ClassNotFoundException

smoky anchor Apr 29, 2025, 8:25 AM

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You ever tried writing more than a sentence in one message...

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:25 AM

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warm mica You are asking for a zero day?

if i had a nickel for everytime someones asked about bypassing Minecraft security within the past 2 days, id have 2 nickels, which isnt a lot, but Weird that its happened twice...

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:25 AM

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smoky anchor You ever tried writing more than a sentence in one message...

literally

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:26 AM

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looks correct, right?

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well the downloaded packetevents is 130KB instead of 3MB

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:28 AM

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why not use the built in library loader?

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:29 AM

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isn't it only for 1.17+ and only for maven central?

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:29 AM

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grim hound looks correct, right?

as you can see

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this isn't maven central

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:30 AM

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grim hound well the downloaded packetevents is 130KB instead of 3MB

I assume it didn't download the dependencies of packetevents and their dependencies

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:30 AM

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yes, it seems to only have downloaded literally only that very module

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it didn't even download its api

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:31 AM

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grim hound isn't it only for 1.17+ and only for maven central?

last versions of 1.16.5 it looks like, and then 1.17 yeah

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:31 AM

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it also didn't download its abstract assets

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(like block mappings)

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:31 AM

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grim hound it didn't even download its api

probably related

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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?whereami 😔

undone axleBOT Apr 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

▶ Play video

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:32 AM

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well spigot is G but slower

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and paper devs are obnoxious

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gotta balance by supporting both

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:33 AM

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grim hound and paper devs are obnoxious

real

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:33 AM

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does it work on spigot tho?

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id test to make sure it isnt just a paper issue

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:34 AM

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buoyant viper id test to make sure it isnt just a paper issue

brother

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no

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not how that works, checked the code

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:34 AM

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just sayin, since they hardforked and do have different plugin stuff now

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:34 AM

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its fuckin

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file download

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it literally does not download the entire jar

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how the fuck would they change that

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:35 AM

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https://jar-download.com/

Download JAR files with all dependencies

Search and download Java libraries/JAR files inclusive their dependencies. ➤ No Maven installation ➤ Everything online ➤ Free download

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maybe it has an api

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:36 AM

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what downloaded vs what should've

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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warm mica https://jar-download.com/

?

warm mica Apr 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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grim hound ?

it downloads the jar + all of its dependencies

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:38 AM

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whats up with the {} in ur string

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i doubt its the issue, but it is weird

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:39 AM

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buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:39 AM

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does this plugin need to support <1.17

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:40 AM

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basically

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:40 AM

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buoyant viper does this plugin need to support <1.17

it needs to download off maven-central reps

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this particular project - no, but I also wanted to use it for my other 1.12+ plugins

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:42 AM

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does 2.8.0 exist

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ah it does on codemc/snapshots repo

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:44 AM

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grim hound well the downloaded packetevents is 130KB instead of 3MB

this is the size it is on CodeMC

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grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:44 AM

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buoyant viper this is the size it is on CodeMC

wha-

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uhhh

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can you

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link that?

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:45 AM

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https://repo.codemc.io/#browse/browse:maven-snapshots:com%2Fgithub%2Fretrooper%2Fpacketevents-spigot%2F2.8.0-SNAPSHOT%2F2.8.0-20250428.155203-27%2Fpacketevents-spigot-2.8.0-20250428.155203-27.jar

Sonatype Nexus Repository

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:46 AM

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wtf

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bruh all of em are

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wtf does implementation do then?

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in gradle

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:47 AM

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i think it tells gradle the dependency is required for code compilation

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could be wrong

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ik it superceded compile (and i think compileOnly?) tho

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:48 AM

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not sure what compile does, but compileOnly lets you use the classes without bundling it into the output shadowJar

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:48 AM

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https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/dependency_configurations.html#two-dependency-configurations

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compile is an old old Old gradle term iirc

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:49 AM

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okay, still

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how tf can you make libby download the dependencies

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:50 AM

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maybe Libby isnt downloading Transitive Dependencies

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looks like it probably doesnt

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:57 AM

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bruh

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:57 AM

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F

grim hound Apr 29, 2025, 8:57 AM

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why is this false by default and not mentioned in the tutorial

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whyyy

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now I look stupid

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welp thnx for the help

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 8:58 AM

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np

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 9:25 AM

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?jd-s

undone axleBOT Apr 29, 2025, 9:25 AM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot

buoyant viper Apr 29, 2025, 9:25 AM

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?stash

undone axleBOT Apr 29, 2025, 9:25 AM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

umbral ridge Apr 29, 2025, 10:14 AM

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is player reporting client sided

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or can it be disabled in the server by plugins

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i find it stupid.. why is player reporting button even necessary

eternal night Apr 29, 2025, 10:15 AM

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sob

umbral ridge Apr 29, 2025, 10:15 AM

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nvm its client

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😿

mellow edge Apr 29, 2025, 10:20 AM

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umbral ridge or can it be disabled in the server by plugins

it can be disabled but not the GUI part, only the message signatures, effectively disabling it

umbral ridge Apr 29, 2025, 10:20 AM

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ty!

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in chat, can this be disabled too?

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I like the first part of the message but not: error at position 1: /<--[HERE] what the heck is that

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do I have to use brigadier for this? .. is that message client sided too?

sullen marlin Apr 29, 2025, 10:24 AM

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Yes the unknown command is client side

umbral ridge Apr 29, 2025, 10:26 AM

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hmm

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even with protocolLib i couldn't do anything?

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it's a tooltip

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You can do colorized parameters with brigadier and suggested commands tooltips.. but there's so little info available about it

chrome beacon Apr 29, 2025, 10:30 AM

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Use a resource pack if you want to change it

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command.context.parse_error

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or if you just want to change/get rid of <--[HERE] it's command.context.here

umbral ridge Apr 29, 2025, 10:32 AM

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ok ty

fathom fox Apr 29, 2025, 10:57 AM

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Hi everyone!
I'm currently designing a system where players can plant and grow custom crops with multiple growth stages. I’m exploring different ways to implement this and was thinking about using ItemFrames with custom items to represent the crops visually at different stages. However, I'm curious: How would you recommend implementing a system like this efficiently on a server? I'm open to any ideas, including other approaches that might be better than using ItemFrames.
Would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions!

drowsy helm Apr 29, 2025, 10:59 AM

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fathom fox Hi everyone! I'm currently designing a system where players can plant and grow c...

Depends what version but generally item frames or item displays are you best option

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Just a matter of managing them on chunk load so they dont persist