help-development

[thorn isle]

design for extension or prevent it

that said, final in my mind is one of those things that ought to be used sparingly and only when needed, with the exception of fields which should be final by default

final classes and final methods usually don't make sense, except when they do, and that's usually fairly clear design-wise; for example a doThing method that overloads to a final or private doThing0 so that you can both allow extension (by overriding doThing) but be certain that sensitive logic (doThing0), when called by you in this class, works exactly as expected

[mortal hare]

my mind tells me if you want to override something from a class which already has implementation, you should replace inheritance with composition

im not saying that it should be used everywhere but lets say if you know that these values are only for public access, are immutable but also used internally, it can be good way to enforce that implementations would not touch those variables and getters, thus prevent nullability issues that might occur in buggy implementations

you shouldnt patch the code from the inheritance, you should edit source code if you see that it bothers you how it works.

ofc not everytime this works, especially with legacy applications where we need shady hacks to do we want because code is riddled with tech debt

one example would be getter for retrieving name Player#getName() of the player, you shouldnt override that variable, because that might mess with various classes which depend on that, so you might as well make that method final in abstract class and not let implementations of Player touch neither the field, neither the getter, but let them use that variable for read access only from subclasses

imagine if OfflinePlayer overridden getName() to one thing and OnlinePlayer to be something else. Its clearly a field that shouldnt be mutated and only be handled from base class

[thorn isle]

funny you should take that as an example because this is exactly a case where this doesn't hold

OfflinePlayer's aren't guaranteed to have a name; getName on an offlineplayer can actually fire a blocking network request to mojang to resolve the uuid -> name association

[mortal hare]

im not talking about minecraft in general

[thorn isle]

whereas for (online) Player it's a fixed value

[mortal hare]

what if player name cannot be changed

and it is a fixed value

[thorn isle]

yes, but it is a counterexample of how assumptions about subclass internal behavior can fail down the road

generally the assumption is that the implementor is competent

beyond that as long as they follow the documented specification of the method/behavior they're overriding, everything's fair

[mortal hare]

but having something that nags you when you might do something wrong is kinda nice tho

[thorn isle]

"something wrong" is very difficult to define programmatically

the best we have are probably flow/contract annotations

[mortal hare]

my main point is that api contract should define as much as it can by itself instead of relying on javadoc comments

by preventing errors that might occur by hacky solutions

instead of editing the source code

[thorn isle]

that's what annotations are essentially, they're javadoc comments that the compiler/linter can read and emit warnings about programmatically

the difference to the final keyword is that it doesn't nag, it outright stops you from doing things

which very easily slides into nanny protectionism rather than anything productive

if it's critical that the behavior not be overridden/changed, it should be final

[mortal hare]

if that's the case why most implementations use final keyword for private variables

[thorn isle]

if it's non-critical then it's better to opt to be more flexible and assume the implementor is competent

[mortal hare]

isnt that nanny protectionism

[thorn isle]

fields are quite a bit different from methods

like i noted at first, fields should be final by default

[mortal hare]

sure you cant inherit them, but still the point is that you emit errors to not mutate them, the same is done with method but from inheritance perspective

self describing contract in a sense

[thorn isle]

not only mutate, but making them final also ensures that they are initialized

e.g. take a class with 8 different constructors

labeling your fields final ensures that each constructor assigns each field exactly once

labeling fields final also enforces stricted read-write ordering because the compiler can have perfect information about whether the field has been initialized at the time of being read or not

and compared to e.g. making all your methods final which prevents extension outright, there are very few drawbacks to making fields final

[mortal hare]

im not proposing to make all methods final, only immutable data getters

like record data

in c# you have this

[thorn isle]

that's nanny protectionism

what, is someone going to mess up a getter by accident?

[mortal hare]

what if you're making a library and cant expect to be everyone competent enough who uses your lib

[thorn isle]

what if someone wants to for example add a last-accessed timestamp that gets updated on read? the whole point of having getters for fields rather than making them public and final is that you can slide arbitrary logic in between the read and the access

you could argue that nobody needs to do that, and it is a fairly contrived example, but it's better to assume competence and allow extension than disallow it outright

because needs and applications will arise that you can't foresee

[mortal hare]

if everybody was competent enough we would be using c till this day. there's a reason why abstractions and high level syntax exists. mainly encapsulation in OOP and ease of use

anyways good discussion

[young knoll]

C? Why not assembly

[mortal hare]

there's no clear answer anyways to this, it depends what kind of code you write. imho if you write a lib, that someone would use externally maybe you're right but if someone writes code for internal processing where data safety makes sense, maybe im right idk

[mortal hare]

punch cards

[young knoll]

I like it

My next thought was manually entering the binary 1s and 0s

[thorn isle]

like with all design and paradigms and this nonsense, being consistent is more useful than being right, because no two people are going to agree on what right is

i stick to my view that final is something that ought to be used sparingly only for critical things, but sure if your entire thing is critical it probably should all be private or final; be judicious and try to find a principle that fits and then stick to it

[paper viper]

im learning assembly right now and this shit is annoying as fuck

[young knoll]

Just do better

[paper viper]

7. Invalid mov Instructions - Explain why these instructions are
invalid in a 64-bit assembly program.
a) movl %eax, %rdx
b) movb %di, 8(%rdx)
c) movq (%rsi), 8(%rbp)
d) movw $0xFF, (%eax)

😭

[young knoll]

Because they don’t pass the vibe check

[blazing ocean]

vibe code the test

[paper viper]

whatever

[kindred sage]

heyy i need some help with making NMS clones

[smoky anchor]

elaborate ?
I don't exaclty know what to imagine under "NMS clones"

[kindred sage]

So basically I need a clone of a player to lay on the ground in order to simulate them being knocked out

and the player should be invisible at that time

but i cant seem to find any docs or anything helpful at all

for 1.21 btw

[smoky anchor]

If you don't want to cause yourself painful pain, use Citizens

[kindred sage]

yeah i probably will

[thorn isle]

or libsdisguises

comes out of the box with a "copy player with all equipment+cape+whatever" facility

and yes i will continue to shill libsdisguises

[manic delta]

Or EntityLib

From Tofaa

[young knoll]

Isn’t that the one that doesn’t have half its source on GitHub

[manic delta]

Huh? I don't think so

[thorn isle]

i think that was PlayerLib or something

[manic delta]

https://github.com/Tofaa2/EntityLib

[thorn isle]

or PlayerNpc

[young knoll]

Ah

[manic delta]

This one is entitylib

[young knoll]

Yeah this one seems to be actually decent

[manic delta]

It is

I used it a few times, it's very useful

[kindred sage]

how do i get entitylib working in intellij idea

[echo tangle]

how do i use clientboundaddentitypacket to respawn the player? i tried this constructor, No matching static constructor: ClientboundAddEntityPacket.<init> called with (4485 (Integer), *insert uuid here* (UUID), -28.92 (Double), 96 (Double), -44.5 (Double), 7.95 (Float), 93.75 (Float), minecraft:player (EntityType), 0 (Long), x: 0, y: 0, z: 0 (Vector), 93.75 (Float)), i also tried creating a new serverplayer with server, level, gameprofile, and clientinformation yet that didn't work either

[eternal oxide]

ChatGPT? *insert uuid here*

[echo tangle]

i removed it myself... lmao

also that's an error message, so it would make no sense for chatgpt to generate it

[eternal oxide]

the add entity packet constructor has changed many times over teh past few months. It really depends on teh version you are compiling against

also, that error seems to indicate you are using some lib or reflection to build your packet

if a Lib make sure it is updated to support the version you are building for

[echo tangle]

alright, i'm fairly certain it's up to date for 1.21 (my version), and i have all the information it says is needed on the mc protocol page as well as 1.21 nms mappings site, maybe i'm missing something idk

[buoyant viper]

whats wrong with Player.Spigot#respawn() ?

[echo tangle]

i sent a clienside respawn, so i have to readd the entity for others

i guess i could just use that

[kindred sage]

I need some help with entity lib please dms

[sly topaz]

people aren't going to personally give assistance in DMs, at least not without pay

just ask here and wait for an answer

[thorn isle]

use libsdisguises

💪

lib has a dedicated support channel on the mythic discord

which i think is a shame because mythic is cancer, but he does very actively answer questions and help with the api and command usage

[buoyant viper]

thats what im sayin

i hate support thru dms

cos 1. usually need to send a friend request, n then 2. i forget to unfriend these ppl like 99.99% of the time

and now i have a friends list of 400 when i talk to maybe 3 people

[tulip basin]

Hi, I have a rather important question. If I have a plugin for eggwars (I'd be glad for a recommendation) and for example in npc I click on start, I would like it to port me to such a pre-lobby where it will wait for players, select teams, select kits etc. or how to say it and the question is whether the pre-lobby is in the plugin of eggwars or it is done separately.

Thank you for the answer

[sly topaz]

My issue with it is mostly that people become entitled when you personally give help, instead of using the proper channels they’ll directly ask you for anything, even things I might have no idea or couldn’t be bothered to answer

It’s fine if it is a friend, but it is just weird to take that burden for someone you barely know lol

[sly topaz]

Is this a development question? Are you making a bedwars plugin?

[tulip basin]

yea its a devlopment question for 50/50

[sly topaz]

If that’s the case, it really can be either way, if you have found an egg wars plugin that doesn’t have a pre-lobby and want to add that feature within a separate plugin, as long as the other plugin gives you enough leeway to intervene with its lifecycle, it should be fine

But if you’re making an egg wars plugin from scratch, I’d just have the functionality from the get go

What’s good about eggwars is that you can also just take any bedwars plugin and configure it to work for eggwars lol

[tulip basin]

okay thanks

[young knoll]

Turn bed into egg

Sell it as a separate $19.99 plugin

[knotty gale]

I am trying to use the spigot API, and i have it in my refrenced libraries but I cannot use anything with it, like I am trying to extend JavaPlugin but its not showing up

[sly topaz]

How are you importing it? Are you using maven/gradle?

[jolly maple]

https://paste.md-5.net/jibudehoci.makefile

Hello, I currently am making a minecraft plugin and I want to publish it into my maven local and when I do the publishInMavenLocal task, it works fine and it creates folder but I can't import it anywhere...

[mortal hare]

maybe youre right its better to give implementors full control on what they do, but leaving safe access for public contract

in either case you can fuck up the implementation in other places even if you did force final for getter methods

its just not worth to keep final methods for such things, as you can write bad algo anyways and no matter if getters are correct or not it will fail

[knotty gale]

Adding external jars

I’m new to all of this stuff so I’ve heard of maven but I don’t know what it does or how to use it

[mortal hare]

in very rough sense maven is just a glorified java library downloader from internet

allows you to add libraries to your java project, by just declaring what you need inside pom.xml file and it will auto download that for you from maven central repository on the internet

[knotty gale]

Oh ok, I’m not home right now so I’ll try to set it up later

Is it pretty straight forward

[mortal hare]

its mostly copy pasta boiler plate

but you can also set up other things to do with maven, for example package your application under .jar file

preprocess files, like variable interpolation where you can substitute placeholders with values in files

its just a build tool for java

currently there's two popular build tools for java development: maven and gradle. Most spigot projects use maven build system, but for example Paper uses gradle

[knotty gale]

Ok ok, but js for referencing do you know what I could be doing wrong? I took the spigot jar straight from the server to add to the external library

[mortal hare]

i prefer gradle, but its easier to learn maven

[mortal hare]

you shouldnt do that, you need to declare spigot-api dependency inside pom.xml file

and it will automatically do that for you

the point of maven is that you can reproduce the same builds over accross different systems, for example you can setup git repository and put it on the cloud and anyone else who clones the repository will have all the libraries downloaded that are attached to pom.xml file

[knotty gale]

Oh ok

[mortal hare]

note that NMS is not included with spigot-api dependency so if you depend on that you should look for buildtools tutorial

[knotty gale]

I already set up a test server with btools in it

I just needed to make my first plugins

[mortal hare]

i suggest you just use spigot-api dependency

for now as it includes like 80%-90% of what you need mostly anyways

[knotty gale]

I was following a tutorial for a simple hello world one, but I couldn’t get the spigot to work which is why I am here

[knotty gale]

Instead of the jar?

[mortal hare]

yes, it will auto download and setup everything for you

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/creating-a-plugin-with-maven-using-intellij-idea/

[knotty gale]

Ok cool, is a tutorial needed to set it up or will it be real easy

[mortal hare]

thats how mostly pom.xml should look like

    <repositories>
        <repository>
            <id>spigot-repo</id>
            <url>https://hub.spigotmc.org/nexus/content/repositories/snapshots/</url>
        </repository>
    </repositories>

    <dependencies>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>org.spigotmc</groupId>
            <artifactId>spigot-api</artifactId>
            <version>1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>
    </dependencies>

[knotty gale]

Also what’s the difference between intellij and eclipse

[mortal hare]

those are IDE's which you use to write java code

assistants

in a sense

[knotty gale]

I understand but is one objectively better?

[mortal hare]

which can catch bugs

[knotty gale]

I prefer the eclipse look

[mortal hare]

Intellij is free and community version is open source

and its usually better

but it eats ram like its nothing

it can eat like 3GB of ram on idle on certain projects

due to how it indexes the whole project

and analyzes code

its heavy but nothing better is really compared to that IDE

[young knoll]

(Eclipse is also free)

[knotty gale]

I was abt to say cuz I have it installed and was using it

[mortal hare]

Eclipse also suck. Last time i've used it, extensions were broken

i mean official build ships with broken marketplace

never used it after

intellij is literally all you need

[eternal oxide]

works for me

[knotty gale]

I’m just trying to do simple shit, and I know the layout already cuz I used to do this stuff a while ago but I forgot almost all of it

[eternal oxide]

Eclipse is fine

[knotty gale]

Is maven different to use on eclipse and intellij

[eternal oxide]

no, just the interface

[mortal hare]

maven is a command line tool

but usually ide's integrate that tool with fancy GUIs

to make maintaining a java project less a hassle

by just clicking things instead of writing the commands

honestly i just use command line at least for gradle

i hate those buttons

at least terminal gives me consistency across different environments

same with git for me

[young knoll]

The gradle menus in intelij and eclipse are basically the same

Maven less so

[mental trail]

probably overthinking this...I have a system similar to factions and I want to have some various settings on the Faction object such as power, some misc settings such as leaf decay/future settings. I was thinking about three different options for implementing this...

option 1) in the main class, standard
option 2) map of config options attached to the option so option-id as the key and value as a string in the map
option 3) separate class for settings such as FactionSettings with the variables and getters/setters then store this in the faction class

thoughts? I was leaning towards the FactionSettings class, map seems overkill, but it allows for flexibility later on

[echo basalt]

main class IS NOT standard

[mental trail]

the Faction class having the variables?

[echo basalt]

yeah

[mental trail]

iirc that's how I saw others do it

[echo basalt]

doesn't adhere to the single responsibility principle

Map is the best approach as it allows for custom settings made by third-party plugins

Make sure your generics check out

[mental trail]

now to follow up, I was thinking about creating some classes to simplify the serialization/deserialization/validate process such as Integer setting, String setting, etc for the map stuff that would validate the input and auto convert to/from the string, would this be overkill or no?

so like Map<String id, Setting object which is the parent for String setting/integer setting>

[echo basalt]

eh strings

the way we do it at work is with a "typed key" / codec system

think of the following

public interface FactionSettingKey<T> {

  String getName();
  FactionSettingCodec<T> getCodec();

}

public interface FactionSettingCodec<T> {

  T decode(Container or whatever);
  void encode(Container or whatever, T value);

}

public interface FactionSettingContainer {

  <T> T getValue(FactionSettingKey<T> key);
  void setValue(FactionSettingKey<T> key, T value);
  ...

}

[mental trail]

gotcha so the container is the faction object?

[echo basalt]

it's separate to the faction

the faction tracks more than just settings

[mental trail]

oh so like the separate FactionSetting class

[echo basalt]

Yeah

You can then yeet all your builtin keys into a BuiltinFactionSettings class

or something similar to that

FactionSettingDefaults type deal

[mental trail]

interface enum hack?

[echo basalt]

no

that's abuse

just use a final class

smh he didn't read effective java 🙄

[mental trail]

I did, but it's just so convenient

[echo basalt]

public final class FactionSettingKeys {

  private FactionSettingKeys () {}

  public static final FactionSettingKey<String> WELCOME_MESSAGE = FactionSettingKey.create("welcome-message", 
FactionKeyTypes.STRING);

}

type deal

[mental trail]

yeah I got what you mean

[echo basalt]

it's somewhat limitless and you get to yeet it all into a map in your setting container class

I'd also make a value holder to differenciate between not-set and null

it also makes it convenient for codecs and defaults

public class FactionSettingValueHolder<T> {

  private final FactionSettingKey<T> key;
  private T value;

  ...
}

then your map is exclusively Key<?> to ValueHolder<?>

and the generics check out

I've made like a dozen systems of this style at work

[mental trail]

Yeah seems really convenient

[echo basalt]

it CAN eventually get really annoying when you start having different subtypes of Number and you need to do math between them

(for example adding 12% (float) to a base value of 10 (double))

but you can just keep going with generics until it works out

[mental trail]

Understandable, I don't think that would be an issue with factions stuff

[echo basalt]

yeah defo not with factions

I'm thinking more around RPGs

[mental trail]

Oh, definitely!

[echo basalt]

where you have a 35% durability modifier on an item that also stacks with whatever

[mental trail]

yeah all the rates and modifies for an rpg since there's so many xD

well now I get to start coding again, thanks again

[echo basalt]

cheers

[mental trail]

cheers

[sly topaz]

Illusion

Are you the one that made the modern way to handle inventories post

Oh no, that was mfnalex

[young knoll]

Pretty sure that was smile

?gui

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[trail cargo]

what type is 1b?

byte? bit?

[worldly ice]

Byte

[trail cargo]

thx!

[sly topaz]

ah yeah

I was going to ask if there's any difference now with the API prioritizing handling of inventory views rather than inventories

[knotty gale]

whats the event when a player picks up a shot arrow? Like someone shoots, it falls to the floor and someone picks up the arrow

[manic delta]

try with EntityPickupItemEvent

[knotty gale]

yes but this only works with items, not the shot projectiles. I have been trying

[worldly ice]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/event/player/PlayerPickupArrowEvent.html ?

[knotty gale]

thank you

[manic delta]

I don't know why I thought that event was deprecated lol

[worldly ingot]

Child of a deprecated event, so fair assumption

It's not deprecated though. Works fine

[jagged thicket]

@manic delta

is that HashMap issue fix working

[knotty gale]

I am using it, but I think it doesnt work because I am using spectral arrows, is there one for spectral arrows

[sly topaz]

it should work for any arrow

[worldly ice]

are you in creative?

i know creative messes with a lot of inventory-related events

[knotty gale]

no

[sly topaz]

well you can't pickup arrows in creative either

[worldly ice]

i thought you could?

but it jsut didn't give you the item

[knotty gale]

   @EventHandler
    public void onArrowPickup(PlayerPickupArrowEvent event, Player player, Item item, AbstractArrow arrow) {

            getServer().broadcastMessage(ChatColor.RED + player.getName() + " picked up the basketball!");

            BHandler = player;
        }

its not broadcasting

[sly topaz]

I don't remember, it's been a while since I played MC lol

[sly topaz]

that isn't how you use events

[knotty gale]

myf bro pls help me out

[sly topaz]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-the-event-api/

[worldly ice]

remove all method params except the event you're listening to

[knotty gale]

ok

[sly topaz]

it's better if they just read the wiki for it

[worldly ice]

yeah but in this case it's an easy fix

[sly topaz]

you're assuming they've properly implemented Listener for that class as well as registered the listener to the plugin manager, though

[worldly ice]

ig

[manic delta]

ill try later

[knotty gale]

well I have a first listener that works

    @EventHandler
    public void onProjectileShoot(ProjectileLaunchEvent event) {
        if (!(event.getEntity() instanceof Projectile)) return;

        if (event.getEntity().getShooter() instanceof Player) {
            Player shooter = (Player) event.getEntity().getShooter();

            getServer().broadcastMessage(ChatColor.RED + shooter.getName() + " shot the basketball!");
        }
    }

This one works

[sly topaz]

unsolicited advice: there's no need to check whether the event entity is a projectile as that event overrides getEntity accordingly to only deal with projectiles. Also, since I assume you're using a newish java version, you can do instanceof pattern matching to "avoid" the cast

[knotty gale]

ok

also I know how to register a listener inside the main class, but how would i do so when it is in a seperate class?

[rotund ravine]

?di

[undone axle]

Guide to dependency injection: https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/using-dependency-injection/

[manic delta]

idk why i readed "Guice"

lol

[knotty gale]

wait so does using uneccessary params break the listener?

[worldly ice]

yes

im assuming bukkit just won't register that handler if it has erroneous params

[knotty gale]

ok good to know

[manic delta]

@sly topaz @jagged thicket~~ wow it worked~~

tysm to both

no wait

i think is from my playerjoin implementation

💀

[jagged thicket]

brehh 💀

comment it out

[manic delta]

ill do it

[manic delta]

yea didn't work

i give up

lol

ill use my playerjoin stuff

:sadge:

[jagged thicket]

sadd

is the same problem happening

even with using longs

[manic delta]

yea

that sucks

i give up

i was so happy to see orange there

then i remember that i fixed it using pjoin event

[jagged thicket]

@manic delta

when a problem is too cooked i give it to chat gpt

and do you think it is speaking the truth

[manic delta]

i did not get it

my brain is burned

[jagged thicket]

yah it kinda makes sense

Yeah i figured out the problem

The thing is the pets are loaded only during player join event but

see the pets are loaded only in playerjoin event after 20L

but , PlayerChunkLoadEvent is called before the 20L

so the initial chunks are not getting counted

@manic delta

i think the proper way to handle this is using AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent

[buoyant viper]

Kt 😢

[buoyant viper]

What.

[blazing ocean]

swing smh

shit that reminds me, I need to work on my BT GUI

[buoyant viper]

the weird part is like

it used to work

one version prior / the gui on my spigot account

[blazing ocean]

"actual good looking"

lmao

nice window icon

[buoyant viper]

thank u

i made it in GIMP

all of them were made in GIMP

[rotund ravine]

50$ and i’ll remake it in paint

[blazing ocean]

that's a bloody mess

(in a British accent)

[buoyant viper]

hardcoded blood particles for entities loosely based on what i think their blood would be

ie. creepers have tnt particles, nether mobs have lava particles, etc

[blazing ocean]

concern

[buoyant viper]

will i make it configurable? probably not

[buoyant viper]

resolution

[blazing ocean]

[buoyant viper]

fixed i guess

maybe i compiled a version without flatlaf setup and didnt realize it

my maven package is adding -shaded to the output name D:

couldve sworn i specifically disabled that..

I DO??

[blazing ocean]

maven moment

[buoyant viper]

clean package fixed it

wtf is happening

[proud badge]

if I save a Player object to a variable, then the player disconnects, can I still use player.getUniqueID() or will that not work?

[paper viper]

Maybe, not really sure. I mean it’s all sort of undefined behavior after the player leaves

Why not just get the UUID before

[jagged thicket]

?tas

[undone axle]

https://tryitands.ee/

[blazing ocean]

trying it won't help you with a bunch of UB and edge cases

[buoyant viper]

just realized how scuffed mine is rn

[blazing ocean]

I'm just making an impl of shadows designs

[buoyant viper]

mine is sadly part of the inspiration for the official

made the silly mistake of trying to actually use List<Integer>

silly me.. ambiguous calls for .remove

i could track processes with a UUID instead of an int...

[quaint mantle]

int for uuid?

wtf

[buoyant viper]

i have a list of "processes" and i was just tracking them with an int lol

[blazing ocean]

are you currently using pids

[buoyant viper]

...yeah

[blazing ocean]

don't see an issue with that

[buoyant viper]

List#remove takes either Object or int(for index)

[blazing ocean]

removeIf

[buoyant viper]

and when my type is int i guess autoboxer shits the bed

couldve sworn ive written something like this that did work, but it honestly mightve been in C# lol

i think c# List uses removeAt or something

[buoyant viper]

unironically might

i could name the process instead ig

like task-{ID}

or just .toString the pid itself

i also need to make a system that takes a snapshot of the users current config

bc i realized i could change an option mid-process and affect output functions

[buoyant viper]

this is autistic but fuck it

[blazing ocean]

just implement Cloneable 😭

[buoyant viper]

true

[buoyant viper]

ok it looks slightly less autistic with a copy constructor

[flat lark]

Anybody know of a good conversation api

[buoyant viper]

spigot conversation api

oops

[blazing ocean]

they said good

[nocturne mirage]

Anyone wo wants to develop for some money?

[young knoll]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[flat lark]

WHAR

[buoyant viper]

portablegit install x18 ish

had to make sure my task counter worked lol

[grim hound]

can I display a 1994x1994 bitmap?

[young knoll]

Wat

[grim hound]

well

you see

I have a txt pack

and a 1994x1994 bitmap

and well

it doesn't render

[buoyant viper]

might be too big

[grim hound]

orrr

it's some config

[buoyant viper]

doesnt minecraft have a max texture size limit

[young knoll]

The texture atlas’s are 256x256

So you can’t go bigger than that

[grim hound]

like wtf is the height?

[grim hound]

mm

I see

[young knoll]

You can split it into multiple characters though

[grim hound]

okay, but still

never understood it

the wiki

also doesn't clear it up for me

[young knoll]

It defines how tall the character should be when rendered in game

Generally you want it the same as the height of the actual image or you’ll get ugly squishing/stretching

[grim hound]

good god

[young knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pink-blob-sunglasses-cool-gif-22801292

[blazing ocean]

the wiki used to say the max is 512x for some reason

had to fix that lmao

[young knoll]

Maybe the atlas used to be bigger?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[blazing ocean]

nope

[umbral ridge]

is there a way to tell if player joined with a custom client? are there packets that custom clients send to the server?

[eternal night]

some clients announce themselves but like

obviously nothing you can rely on

[umbral ridge]

hm

[young knoll]

Ask the player nicely

Are you using a cheat/hacked client? [Yes] [No]

[jagged thicket]

it can be spoofed so easily that it is not useful

[blazing ocean]

click here if you're cheating

[young knoll]

dQw spotted

[blazing ocean]

lies

[jagged thicket]

use https://orang3i.com
instead from now on

[blazing ocean]

no

[jagged thicket]

😱

bro said no

[young knoll]

Does the item model component support any kind of fallback

Aka if the specified model isn’t found it’ll show as a default item rather than a missing texture

[blazing ocean]

not that I'm aware of

[young knoll]

Poop

[blazing ocean]

you could use the actual fallback as the item and set the model

or, no, nevermind

that wouldn't work

[young knoll]

That’s unfortunate

Does custom model data default to the standard item if the custom model isn’t found?

I seem to remember it did but that was the old custom model data

[slender elbow]

"are you a terrorist?" airport question vibes

[sly topaz]

that actually reminds me I was also going to give it a go, wasn't I? Lol

what did I even say I was gonna make it in, I don't remember

[blazing ocean]

I think tauri

I started working on one in Tauri a while ago as well

Had a working version selector and runner with logs

[jagged thicket]

@ xpdz make one in electron

its your time!!!!

use your frontend skillz

ok fk it ima make it in electron fr

time to learn front end

[left jay]

can anyone explain why this happens?

[chrome beacon]

Is that a class from a dependency or the same project

[left jay]

same project

[blazing ocean]

censors github username
does not censor windows username

🧠

[left jay]

idgaf about my windows username lmao

[blazing ocean]

so why do you care about your github username

[left jay]

cuz its my actual name

[blazing ocean]

if you don't want people to see that, then don't use that as your username

[left jay]

yk what lemme just change it rq

[eternal oxide]

it looks like you manually imported a jar and did not add it as a dependency

Your IDE sees it but maven can;t

[wet breach]

if its on github.....not sure why you would need to sensor it here? its public already

[left jay]

,_,

well i just changed it

forgot thats how that worked

[eternal oxide]

You mean gregory?

[wet breach]

anyways not like even if people on the internet knows your name makes a difference in anything

I mean there is like 100+ countries

[blazing ocean]

197, +/- 10 depending on who you ask

[wet breach]

yeah, and if your named steve

no one is going to find you

there is like a million steves

[blazing ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-minecraft-mc-movie-mc-steve-gif-6288532294241032174

sorry I had to

[wet breach]

lol

[safe beacon]

Good evening, handsome guys!

May I ask how to use ProtocolLib to send particle effects to players?

I used the method given by the AI, but it seems like it doesn't work.

public static void sendFakeExplosion(Player player, Location loc) {

    ProtocolManager protocolManager = ProtocolLibrary.getProtocolManager();

    PacketContainer packet = new PacketContainer(PacketType.Play.Server.WORLD_PARTICLES);

    System.out.println(packet.getModifier().getValues());


    packet.getIntegers().write(0, 15);


    packet.getBooleans().write(0, true); 


    packet.getFloat().write(0, (float) loc.getX());
    packet.getFloat().write(1, (float) loc.getY());
    packet.getFloat().write(2, (float) loc.getZ());

    packet.getFloat().write(3, 0f);
    packet.getFloat().write(4, 0f);
    packet.getFloat().write(5, 0f);
    packet.getFloat().write(6, 0f);

    packet.getIntegers().write(1, 5);

    packet.getIntegerArrays().write(0, new int[0]);

    protocolManager.sendServerPacket(player, packet);
}

[chrome beacon]

Just use the Spigot API

There's no reason to use Protocollib

[left jay]

well that shouldnt happen, there all part of the same plugin and nothing is being imported

[safe beacon]

I want to use ProtocolLib to send particle effects to a player individually, but I haven't used ProtocolLib before.

[chrome beacon]

Use the Spigot api

You don't need Protocollib

See Player#spawnParticles

[eternal oxide]

Then run clean package, or if using IJ clear caches and restart

[safe beacon]

May I ask for the link?

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#spawnParticle(org.bukkit.Particle,double,double,double,int)

There are a couple of overloads depending on what you want to do

[safe beacon]

But I want to use ProtocolLib to make the particle effect visible only to one player.

[chrome beacon]

Again you don't need to

That API method will do that

[eternal oxide]

the API allows you to send particles to one player, or the world

[safe beacon]

But the version I'm using is 1.12.2

And I want to try using ProtocolLib because I've heard that this plugin is very powerful.

[chrome beacon]

It is

but it's also not easy to use and is highly version specific

(depending on what packets you use)

[safe beacon]

Thank you for your help, I will try using Bukkit.

I tried it, and it really works.

double offsetX = (Math.random() - 0.5) * 2;
double offsetY = (Math.random() - 0.5) * 2;
double offsetZ = (Math.random() - 0.5) * 2;

// Send particle
player.spawnParticle(Particle.HEART, location.add(offsetX, offsetY, offsetZ), 0);

// Restore original location
location.subtract(offsetX, offsetY, offsetZ);
Thank you!

[manic delta]

ohhh

WAIT

THAT MAKES SENSE

i dont know why did i put that 20L

[manic delta]

kotlin is good

[safe beacon]

If the player.spawnParticle() method is used asynchronously, will it cause errors in higher versions?

[manic delta]

isnt there a way to load Player in AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent?

[jagged thicket]

[manic delta]

because i need a player to build the pet

[jagged thicket]

wait leme see

[manic delta]

i dont think Bukkit.getPlayer will work

because the player is not even there

i can try tho

[jagged thicket]

no you can't i think

so do smth like pre loading the data into a temporary list

or map

[manic delta]

mmm

damn

let me try

removing the 20L part

maybe it works

[jagged thicket]

yeah i don't think so because the player would have loaded the chunk as soon as the playerloginevent fires

so race condition blah blah blah

[manic delta]

mmmm

lets try and then ill use that temporary list

[jagged thicket]

alright

[manic delta]

maybe i can set

the owner property

to lateinit var

[jagged thicket]

See, the problem is the PlayerChunkLoadEvent probably fires before PlayerLoginEvent

that is the problem here

[manic delta]

WAIT

OMG

removing that

20L

WORKED

[jagged thicket]

LOLLLL

NICEEEe

[manic delta]

orange is here

[sly topaz]

congrats

[jagged thicket]

CONFIRM THAT

[sly topaz]

lol

[jagged thicket]

yeah

[manic delta]

good damn

thank you guys

[jagged thicket]

LETS GOO

[sly topaz]

I did nothing but you're welcome

[manic delta]

I will never make pets again

[jagged thicket]

so the problem was that the pets were added to petsbychunk after the PlayerChunkLoad event fires because of 20L

[manic delta]

yea lmao

[sly topaz]

yeah I was following the convo

[manic delta]

i dont remember why i put that 20L lol

[jagged thicket]

i gave it to fucking chat gpt and it couldnt figure it out

[sly topaz]

could've caught that if I had actually taken the time to read the code carefully, but my eyes get itchy when I read kotlin

[jagged thicket]

then i actually read the code lmao

and figured it out

[sly topaz]

chatgpt was a smart move, it can do the reading for you

[manic delta]

hahah fr

[manic delta]

kotlin is good

[jagged thicket]

but at this point chat gpt couldnt help

[manic delta]

i moved from java to kotlin a weeks ago

[jagged thicket]

@manic delta close the paper issue lol

why did u add 20L anyway

[manic delta]

I don't remember but I know it was for something

[manic delta]

ok ok

[manic delta]

in memory of the two

[jagged thicket]

Nicee cars

[jagged thicket]

now smth else is gonna break because of that 💀

[sly topaz]

is this some convoluted way to call me a discord kitten

[manic delta]

probably

[sly topaz]

why is it on spanish btw

[manic delta]

yes

because im spanish

lol

[sly topaz]

makes sense

[manic delta]

damn they died

[jagged thicket]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

sad

[manic delta]

i can finally make their behaviour logic

because this one sucks

[sly topaz]

what is the very complex tag beside the bracket

[jagged thicket]

are u gonna release this on hangar?

[sly topaz]

is it measuring code complexity by the number of branches

[young knoll]

Probably

[safe beacon]

I want to write a method
public void showParticle(Player player, Location corner1, Location corner2),
which will send a particle effect in the form of a cuboid based on these two coordinates. However, the only approach I can think of right now is:

public void showCuboidParticleEffect(Player player, Location corner1, Location corner2) {
double minX = Math.min(corner1.getX(), corner2.getX());
double maxX = Math.max(corner1.getX(), corner2.getX());
double minY = Math.min(corner1.getY(), corner2.getY());
double maxY = Math.max(corner1.getY(), corner2.getY());
double minZ = Math.min(corner1.getZ(), corner2.getZ());
double maxZ = Math.max(corner1.getZ(), corner2.getZ());

for (double x = minX; x <= maxX; x += 0.5) {
    for (double y = minY; y <= maxY; y += 0.5) {
        for (double z = minZ; z <= maxZ; z += 0.5) {
            Location loc = new Location(player.getWorld(), x, y, z);
            player.spawnParticle(Particle.HEART, loc, 0);
        }
    }
}

}
This approach may cause lag. Are there better ways to prevent multiple packet sends?

[chrome beacon]

No

[safe beacon]

There is no way to send multiple particles at once?

Can it be done using ProtocolLib?

[sly topaz]

I mean, the particle sending isn't the part that's gonna cause lag

[manic delta]

yes

[manic delta]

is that for me?

[manic delta]

https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/21667-code-complexity

[sly topaz]

do you need to fill the whole cuboid? Or just the outline

[manic delta]

probably the outline

maybe i can implement that to my lib

https://github.com/system32developer/SystemCore

[safe beacon]

I only need to draw the outline.@sly topaz

[manic delta]

i had 100% kotlin before adding bstats metrics lol

[jagged thicket]

yeah

[manic delta]

nah

It's for a buyer

[manic delta]

@jagged thicketrate my lib from 1 to 10 lol

i know it sucks thats why 1

i have my docs page

https://system32developer.github.io/SystemCore/

[jagged thicket]

7.5/10

-2.5 for no documentation

[manic delta]

Yes, not everything is documented yet

[sly topaz]

what I would do is precompute a cuboid unit then just scale it up as necessary when it comes time to spawn it

[manic delta]

this one is the most cool https://github.com/system32developer/SystemCore/blob/master/src/main/kotlin/com/system32/systemCore/utils/minecraft/ChatHeadUtil.kt

[sly topaz]

but the current way you're calculating the cuboid is inefficient if you're only looking for the outline, you'd want to loop over the coordinates and only add the edges of each

[safe beacon]

This seems like a good idea. I'm thinking if it's possible to control the movement of particles to draw the edges of the cuboid, thus reducing the number of particles.

[jagged thicket]

yep that do be cool

[manic delta]

fr

i use my lib for all my plugins

lmao

[left jay]

yep it worked, thanks

[sly topaz]

the number of particles would only be an issue if you plan to show too big of a cuboid

and the only way to reduce it would be to make the step/spacing bigger

[safe beacon]

@sly topazIs the spacing the distance the particle moves? How can I make the particle move?

[sly topaz]

no, I mean the literal spacing between each particle from location to location

since you can spawn particles with a precision of 2 I believe, you could spawn a bunch over a single block

[safe beacon]

Do you mean making the particles move from one location to another, thus reducing the number of particles used?

[sly topaz]

your current code spawns one every half-block, meaning it is 2 times the amount of particles if we take blocks as point of comparison

[safe beacon]

I see what you mean, reduce the number of particles along the path.

Is there a way to make the particles move from one location to another?

[sly topaz]

not really, no

some particles have a speed parameter but they don't move that much, and not every particle has a speed param

[safe beacon]

Alright, thanks for your help

[knotty gale]

when shot by an arrow in entitydamagebyentity event, how would I find who SHOT the arrow? Because I am finding what arrow hit them by getDamager() so what would it be for the arrow shooter?

[young knoll]

getDamager to get the arrow, cast to projectile, getShooter

[sly topaz]

I was going to make an example for this but ended up playing around with javafx to test it lol

[young knoll]

And then check if the shooter is an entity

[proud badge]

hi, it appears player.isInRain() returns false for when the player is in snow (its raining and player is in snowy biome), and there is no isInSnow method, what should I use?

[sly topaz]

there is no isInRain method as far I am aware

[proud badge]

nvm then its a paper method

[safe beacon]

@sly topazCan I add you as a friend?

[blazing ocean]

English only and check the pins in #general

?services too

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[lavish owl]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[sly topaz]

I don’t really add people I don’t know as friends, sorry

[blazing ocean]

omg you know me then

[young knoll]

Who are you

[blazing ocean]

who are you

and why do I have you added

[eternal oxide]

stranger danger!

[safe beacon]

ok, I just want to make some friends here. I can only communicate using a translator.

[plush merlin]

Heyo! I'm kind of going insane right now xD My goal is to increase TNT knockback towards other TNT by a factor of whatever I desire. This is the code I tried to use. It detects player knockback but not TNT entity knockback. Any help would be highly appreciated

@EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.LOW, ignoreCancelled = true)
    public void TNTKnockbackEvent (@NotNull EntityKnockbackEvent e) {

        if (!(e.getCause() == EXPLOSION))
            return;
        System.out.println("We have an explosion: " + e.getKnockback().toString());
        // Increase knockback by factor provide from config
        e.setKnockback(e.getKnockback().multiply(TNTKnockbackFactor));
    }

[young knoll]

Called when a living entity receives knockback.

TnT isn't a living entity

[torn shuttle]

hey, is there a way to simulate a player damaging an entity with just what they have on?

so basically pretending a player just swung at a mob

[young knoll]

Player#attack

[sly topaz]

LivingEntity#attack does just that I believe

jish beat me to it

[torn shuttle]

thanks

[plush merlin]

you have a point xD Would you happen to have any suggestions on other ways I could go about this?

[sly topaz]

there's only two scenarios where a TNT has "knockback", when a plugin artificially adds velocity and when another tnt (and I believe other explosives too) explode near it

for the first one, there's no easy way around that but for the second one you can probably check the damage event and whether the damage cause was explosion?

idk if damage event is triggered for tnt tbh

but if it does, you can just multiply the velocity there

[plush merlin]

I sincerely hope it does 😭

alright thank ya Ima try that

[vocal cloud]

(!(e.getCause() == EXPLOSION)) to e.getCause() != EXPLOSION

sorry, that was bothering me

[plush merlin]

ngl I feel dumb for that one thank you

[vocal cloud]

I've done worse dw

[sly topaz]

check if the entity type is TNTPrimed too

[plush merlin]

tbh I don't mind if creepers also get the boost lmao

[sly topaz]

it would make any entity damaged by the explosion get a boost if you're trying to do what I think you're trying to do lol

[plush merlin]

tnt cannon range boost mainly but the entities being boosted just sounds like a funny side effect xD

[plush merlin]

didn't count for the event at all ;w;

[sly topaz]

only option left is the Block/Entity explode events then

I don't know if tnt exploding counts as entity exploding or block exploding, ig entity

[plush merlin]

Wait but wouldn’t the velocity be 0 in that moment since they haven’t been moved yet?

[sly topaz]

you could do it a tick after

kinda wack but running out of options right now lol

[plush merlin]

Cursed but definitely an option xD

Wait

Is it possible to like

Make all TNT considered LivingEntities somehow?

[sly topaz]

not possible, no

if you are using a fork I won't mention, they got a better knockback event which includes tnts I believe

[plush merlin]

isn’t that the deprecated one?

[sly topaz]

no, they deprecated the spigot event with the same name

[plush merlin]

Oh bet

[plush merlin]

I’m using that one already .-.

[sly topaz]

that one should trigger for tnts tho, ask in their discord what's that about

[plush merlin]

Aight will do ty

[umbral ridge]

very nice indeed

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-mike-mclusky-jeremy-renner-mayor-of-kingstown-lighting-up-gif-24043063

[young knoll]

"Sets or gets"

Final field

[umbral ridge]

refactored!

[echo tangle]

can anyone help with this

[blazing ocean]

gets the entity. this method may be used for retrieving the entity.

shocker

[chrome beacon]

?notworking

[undone axle]

"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

[sly topaz]

is this related to the skin change thing you were doing

[echo tangle]

yes lol, by not working i mean it does absolutely nothing

[sly topaz]

is there a reason you're manually removing/adding the entity?

[echo tangle]

for others

[sly topaz]

Player#show/hideEntity should do for that

[chrome beacon]

^ was about to say

[echo tangle]

o

[sly topaz]

all these methods do is literally send the entity add/remove packets so yeah

though I do wonder whether it removes the entity from the tracker

also, you want to hide the entity, change the gameprofile, then show it and only then use the refreshPlayer method I sent earlier

[umbral ridge]

https://paste.md-5.net/udojeyekoz.java

partially finished

[mortal hare]

is there any good way to encode states into types in java or c#?

public class Chatroom {
    private readonly Dictionary<string, IUser> _participants = new();
    
    public void AddParticipant(IUser user) {
        if (!_participants.ContainsKey(user.Id))
            _participants.Add(user.Id, user);
    }
    
    public IChatParticipantContext? GetParticipantContext(string userId) {
        if (_participants.ContainsKey(userId))
            return new ActiveParticipantContext(_participants[userId]);

        return null;
    }
}

public class ActiveParticipantContext : IChatParticipantContext {
    private readonly IUser _user;
    
    public ActiveParticipantContext(IUser user) {
        _user = user;
    }
    
    public void SendMessage(string text) {
        // Ensure the participant is allowed to send the message
        Console.WriteLine($"{_user.Name} sends message: {text}");
    }
}

This code allows user to only send message whenever it is part of the chat only and it enforces validation only once.

This makes contract resistant to runtime invalid data since you can't input wrong player id in the instance through public methods (there's no Chatroom#SendMessage(string userId, string Text) because you can mistakenly input wrong data at runtime and compiler wouldnt give a damn and will just compile that successfully). with Chatroom#GetParticipantContext(string userId) you validate participant once and then you can send message safely at runtime.

This works, but goddamn its kinda expensive to trash around GC just for compile time constraints like these. I can see this as a problem with thousands of IUser objects, so this isnt optimal.

My question is there a better way to encode states and validations into types? I cant any info apart from resemblences to parse dont validate and state machine approaches of doing something like this?

[blazing ocean]

what in the fuck is that

is that C#

[chrome beacon]

yes

[knotty gale]

        if (event.getDamager() instanceof Player && !(event.getEntity() instanceof Player)) {
            Player passer1 = (Player) event.getDamager();
            if (passer1.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().getItemName().contains("Bow")) {
                for(ItemStack i : passer1.getInventory().getContents()){
                    if (i.equals(Material.SPECTRAL_ARROW)) {
            Bukkit.broadcastMessage(ChatColor.BLACK + event.getDamager().getName() + " has hit something that isn't a player");
                    }
                }
            }
        }

Can anyone explain why nothing broadcasts

[echo tangle]

isnt this just an event?

[chrome beacon]

No

[chrome beacon]

That looks like some real odd code

[knotty gale]

I am new and going straight off of forum research so thats prolly why

[chrome beacon]

So what's the goal here? You just want to print a messsage when a player hits someone with a spectral arrow?

[knotty gale]

I want to broadcast when he has a spectral arrow somewhere in the inventory, and a bow in the hand

the arrow marks him which is why it is important

I actually know that when it checks for the bow in hand it works, but I am having trouble implementing checking for the arrow

[round temple]

can someone help me? I just bought a new host bcs i played on aternos, and i want to set my old world to my new host but i cant figure it out

[chrome beacon]

Did you shoot the arrow

[knotty gale]

for(ItemStack i : passer.getInventory().getContents()){
                            if (i.equals(Material.SPECTRAL_ARROW)) {

specifically this is breaking it ig

[chrome beacon]

Don't crosspost

[chrome beacon]

ItemStack will never equals a material, your IDE should have warned you about this

[knotty gale]

well it says that it has a low chance of being used, never the less I would have no clue how to fix it

[chrome beacon]

Get the material with getType

[knotty gale]

ok i will try that

[chrome beacon]

Can't see why you would want it to behave this way though 🤷‍♂️

[knotty gale]

its for a game. the arrow acts as a ball and the bow is how you shoot it. I want the ball to be passed to another player when he is hit with the bow so you dont have to waste time shooting when it isnt needed

[umbral ridge]

does anyone know of any api that tracks currencies and converts them, eg. eur to usd, gbp to eur, vice versa

need to use it in my plugin

[chrome beacon]

https://openexchangerates.org I believe

[umbral ridge]

ohh but its not free

XD

[chrome beacon]

It is

[umbral ridge]

really?

[knotty gale]

I tried

for(ItemStack i : passer.getInventory().getContents()){
                            if(i.getType().equals(Material.SPECTRAL_ARROW)) {

But still nothing happens, maybe it is how I am looping?

[umbral ridge]

it's limited to 1000 requests per month

[chrome beacon]

yes

[umbral ridge]

hmmm

then i need to think of something else

1000 api requests could be enough only for a few days

[chrome beacon]

Why do you need to update it that often

[umbral ridge]

yeah you're right.. i could update it once a day

great!

ty olivo

[chrome beacon]

You could even do it once per hour if you wanted to

[umbral ridge]

im making a currency system and players can have different banks in the server with different currencies which is why i need a currency api (dynamically convert between currencies based on real-time exchange rates)

yea

[manic delta]

wtf lmao

I don't know how convenient that is

[manic delta]

you could do 33 request per day if you use the free plan

or 12 for every 2 hours

[chrome beacon]

yeah no point in querying it that many times

[manic delta]

yeah

[chrome beacon]

Since it says it's only updated once per hour

[manic delta]

yea

i would update every 2 hours

[ornate rapids]

Is this from bedrock client not allowing to view items mounted in armor stand that are invisible?

[manic delta]

mmm thats weird

probably

[obtuse charm]

Looking for a way to give glowing effect to entity (Player or another) or block (not necessary) using only Velocity proxy.

[chrome beacon]

I recommend you head over to the Paper discord

[obtuse charm]

Okay, but if anyone knows the way ping me or DM.

[umbral ridge]

hey how are dynamic signs done (eg.: show the player name on the sign that is looking at it)? I've done it in the past somehow, do i Need protocolLib for this? or can it be done without it

[young knoll]

Iirc there is a Player#sendSignChange

[umbral ridge]

ohhh

ty

[quaint mantle]

I noticed that my scoreboard is heavier than (i think) it should be, what am I doing wrong?

        Scoreboard board = Bukkit.getScoreboardManager().getNewScoreboard();
        Objective obj = board.registerNewObjective(plugin.getName(), "dummy", plugin.getConfig().getString("Scoreboard.Title"));
        obj.setDisplaySlot(DisplaySlot.SIDEBAR);
        lines = plugin.getConfig().getStringList("Scoreboard.Lines");
        size = lines.size();

        for (String line : lines) {
            if (Bukkit.getPluginManager().getPlugin("PlaceholderAPI") != null) {
                line = PlaceholderAPI.setPlaceholders(player, line);
            }

            Team team = board.getTeam("line" + size);
            if (team == null) {
                team = board.registerNewTeam("line" + size);
                team.addEntry(ChatColor.BLACK + "" + ChatColor.WHITE);
                team.setPrefix(ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes('&', line + "&r ".repeat(size)));
                team.setOption(Team.Option.COLLISION_RULE, Team.OptionStatus.NEVER);
            }
            obj.getScore(team.getPrefix()).setScore(size);
            size--;
        }

        if (player.getScoreboard() != board) { player.setScoreboard(board); }

    }```
https://imgur.com/a/ETyge33

[manic delta]

why dont u use a lib

[blazing ocean]

telling somebody to "just go use a lib for this" isn't good advice

and, without the full spark report, we can't help

[manic delta]

But it's better than reinventing the wheel

[quaint mantle]

I tried using fastboard but it increased the size of my plugin by +400kb (obviously since i had to shade it) so i didn't end up using it

and i couldn't find other methods than shading it so

ight let me send report

[blazing ocean]

reinventing the wheel isn't as bad here

[manic delta]

well

[blazing ocean]

(but are you really trying to avoid it just because it's 400kb? )

[manic delta]

i guess so

[blazing ocean]

reinventing the wheel is how you learn how the wheel works and is built

[manic delta]

if he uses jda he will lose his mind

[blazing ocean]

ever heard of fastutil

[manic delta]

it add 13mb lol

[blazing ocean]

fastutil is 35mb uncompressed

[quaint mantle]

400kb isn't bad but I figured that making a scoreboard shouldn't be that hard and therefore I could save 400kb from the size of the plugin

[blazing ocean]

(you can always just library it)

[manic delta]

lmao

35mb

wow

[quaint mantle]

https://spark.lucko.me/ojfVLQ2EbE

[blazing ocean]

that's just regex taking 0.06ms

and like, why complain about something taking half a millisecond per tick

[manic delta]

yea

[blazing ocean]

you could do that a hundred times in a tick and still have time

well, not much time, but you get the point

[quaint mantle]

If it doesn't cause any issues that I can fix then that's fine with me

[blazing ocean]

and also

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[blazing ocean]

• offline mode

running a server with 150 players on windows 11 is crazy

[quaint mantle]

they're all bots

that's why offline mode is on too

[blazing ocean]

and why exactly do you need 150 bots online

[quaint mantle]

but yes you're right I am in the wrong discord that's my bad

[manic delta]

how do you have 150 bots

[quaint mantle]

well I don't really need that many but yeah

anyways thanks

[wet breach]

despite common myths, windows actually can ran servers

[blazing ocean]

of course it can

it's just not as good for servers as linux is

[wet breach]

it is just prohibitively more expensive is all when you consider the amount of resources needed for the OS itself

also, it is more expensive when renting a server not because of resources but also because you need a windows license which you have to buy for every server

so yeah it is crazy to use windows for something like mc hosting XD

also those licenses expire every year and have to buy a new one

so a windows server renting wise is like $10.5k yearly around about

[odd sentinel]

seems like EntityChangeBlockEvent fires for sheep eating grass but the getTo is Material.AIR. I see at least one forum post but there's no real explanation on why this is. I can ignore this and just expect it's "really" dirt but is there any kind of work around?

[umbral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/garfield-cat-funny-wall-hungry-gif-2831864459693607895

[woeful lantern]

Hey, I might be being an idiot, but Im trying to set the CustomModelDataComponent for an item, but it isn't working

    private static final ItemStack baseMenu = new ItemStack(Material.STRING);
    static {
        ItemMeta baseMenuItemMeta = baseMenu.getItemMeta();

        assert baseMenuItemMeta != null;
        baseMenuItemMeta.setItemModel(NamespacedKey.fromString("menu_system:game_select_menu"));
        CustomModelDataComponent customModelDataComponent = baseMenuItemMeta.getCustomModelDataComponent();
//        customModelDataComponent.setStrings(List.of("\"base_menu\""));
        customModelDataComponent.setFlags(List.of(true));
          baseMenuItemMeta.setCustomModelDataComponent(customModelDataComponent);
        Bukkit.getLogger().warning(baseMenuItemMeta.getCustomModelDataComponent().toString());
        baseMenu.setItemMeta(baseMenuItemMeta);
        Bukkit.getLogger().warning(baseMenu.getItemMeta().getCustomModelDataComponent().toString());
    }```

The first logger has it working, but after I try to apply it to the ItemStack, suddenly it gets deleted?

`[00:27:15] [Server thread/WARN]: CraftCustomModelDataComponent{handle=CustomModelData[floats=[], flags=[true], strings=[], colors=[]]}`
`[00:27:15] [Server thread/WARN]: CraftCustomModelDataComponent{handle=CustomModelData[floats=[], flags=[], strings=[], colors=[]]}`

This is my first time working with the new CustomModelDataComponent, am I doing something obvious wrong? xd

[eternal night]

what is the output of /version

[slender elbow]

1.21

[eternal night]

1 ignored message this late into the night?

[umbral ridge]

youre modifying the CustomModelDataComponent that was fetched from the old ItemMeta

[eternal night]

[blazing ocean]

itemmeta at it again

[woeful lantern]

How should I do it without doing that?

[eternal night]

can you just paste the /version output 😭

[woeful lantern]

This server is running CraftBukkit version 4477-Spigot-e339edc-ba251cc (MC: 1.21.5) (Implementing API version 1.21.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT)

(if that was to me*)

[eternal night]

okay

now to know which of these commits is what

Heh

yes

upgrade xD

[woeful lantern]

Alright XD

[eternal night]

you managed to get one of the two builds that had a regression in that area

[woeful lantern]

LOL

Alright welp

at least its been fixed hahaha

Thanks a lot I felt like I was going insane XD

[eternal night]

No problem

Also @slender elbow I lied, I'd never ignore you

[slender elbow]

🥺

[daring smelt]

Hi, Im trying to create a 1.16.1 server but when i enter 1.16.1 into the .bat file it says (Java 8 or Java 16 (for 1.17.1 only) or Java 17?)

[rough ibex]

#help-server

[plain holly]

does anyone know where to find server developers to hire?

[chrome beacon]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[buoyant viper]

?services

[undone axle]

If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

[buoyant viper]

damn

both of us grinding the channels today

[chrome beacon]

On my phone rn

[manic delta]

@jagged thicket yea it is good now

[buoyant viper]

same lol

[chrome beacon]

Nice

[manic delta]

the problem was that task lol

[abstract totem]

how do you hide attributes on armor. the HIDE_ATTRIBUTES flag is not working

[sullen marlin]

What does /version say?

[odd sentinel]

Is there a recommended lib for making “ui”s like inventory ones? I know of one but am curious if there’s any better ones

[safe beacon]

Does sending particles to a player using ProtocolLib have better performance than using player.spawnParticle();

[echo basalt]

no

it's actually worse

[safe beacon]

okk

[manic delta]

https://github.com/TriumphTeam/triumph-gui

[odd sentinel]

thanks, that's one I was planning on using but it errors with their basic example so I'm waiting on Matt to look into it

[manic delta]

Wym

[odd sentinel]

unlike his command lib, the gui one errors, probably because of how my plugin bootstraps the code the gui is used from. I'm in his discord a lot because he works very closely with me on the cmd lib, so I mentioned the error to him

[manic delta]

What error?

[odd sentinel]

Caused by: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: class network.darkhelmet.prism.libs.triumphteam.gui.guis.BaseGui is not provided by class org.bukkit.plugin.java.PluginClassLoader
    at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.getProvidingPlugin(JavaPlugin.java:427) ~[spigot-api-1.21.4-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
    at network.darkhelmet.prism.libs.triumphteam.gui.TriumphGui.getPlugin(TriumphGui.java:20) ~[?:?]
    at network.darkhelmet.prism.libs.triumphteam.gui.guis.BaseGui.<clinit>(BaseGui.java:71) ~[?:?]

[manic delta]

Uh

Are you sure it's not an error in your code?

[odd sentinel]

I just copied the example provided in his docs but as I said, it's probably something due to how we bootstrap the code this is used in. that's an uncommon scenario so he's not expecting it, hence why I reported it to him but reminded him of our setup

[manic delta]

Maybe

[odd sentinel]

his command lib works fine so I'm just waiting on his reply

[wide viper]

is there any support for removing components from items, like making an inedible poisonous potato?

[blazing ocean]

?gui

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

[obtuse charm]

Repost: Looking for a way to give glowing effect to entity (Player or another) or block (not necessary) using only Velocity proxy.

[eternal oxide]

Velocity is not a Spigot product

[blazing ocean]

and that is also not something you do on the proxy side

why even

[dawn flower]

how do i get a random element in a set based on the getProbability of each one

[eternal oxide]

Don;t use a Set

[dawn flower]

sure but same question

[eternal oxide]

https://gamedev.stackexchange.com/questions/162976/how-do-i-create-a-weighted-collection-and-then-pick-a-random-element-from-it

[dawn flower]

thanks

[short pilot]

heyo! How can i make my mobs only attack players up to a designated radius from its spawn point, otherwise it just goes back?

public class TargetNonFactionPlayersGoal<T extends Mob> extends TargetGoal {
    private final T customMob;
    private final UUID kingdomID;
    private final KingdomManager kingdomManager;

    public TargetNonFactionPlayersGoal(T customMob, UUID kingdomID) {
        super(customMob, false);
        System.out.println("TEMPTEMPTEMP " + kingdomID);
        this.customMob = customMob;
        this.kingdomID = kingdomID;
        this.kingdomManager = KingdomManager.getInstance();
    }

    @Override
    public boolean canUse() {
        for (Player player : this.customMob.level().players()) {
            UUID playerKingdomID = kingdomManager.getPlayerKingdom(player.getUUID()).getID();
            // CHANGE LATER TEMP TEMP TEMP
            if (!player.isCreative() && !player.isSpectator() && !kingdomID.equals(playerKingdomID)) {
                this.customMob.setTarget(player, EntityTargetEvent.TargetReason.CLOSEST_PLAYER, true);
                return true;
            }
        }
        return false;
    }

i already have its spawn location stored

[mortal hare]

do you guys personally use inner or inner static classes in java?

or do you no matter what declare it under another file

sometimes it feels wrong to declare it under different file, for example iterator implementations

[chrome beacon]

Depends

[mortal hare]

worst part of programming

[chrome beacon]

True

[mortal hare]

i feel general approach would be if class can stand on its own in its behaviour should have its own class, while classes which represent certain scopes or views (like iterators) should be inside the same file

[blazing ocean]

I barely use actual inner (non-static) classes tbh

[umbral ridge]

for sql, what to use? mysql-connector-java?

[sullen marlin]

wdym?

spigot bundles mysql and sqlite drivers if thats what youre asking

[umbral ridge]

ohh i see

[sullen marlin]

but yes that is the mysql driver

with sql in java the driver doesnt matter, the API is the same for all jdbc databases

[umbral ridge]

do I need it?

[sullen marlin]

no

[umbral ridge]

ok great

[short pilot]

            CustomGuard customGuard = new CustomGuard(world, kingdomID, new BlockPos((int) spawnX, (int) spawnY, (int) spawnZ));
            customGuard.setPos(spawnX, spawnY, spawnZ);
            customGuard.getBukkitEntity().getPersistentDataContainer().set(namespacedKey, PersistentDataType.INTEGER,
                    0);

Is this a proper way to set persistent data containers?

im currently using an integer to map to each different custom entity

[drowsy helm]

dont do it in one massive line like that but yeah thats how

[rough drift]

final var created = container.getAdapterContext().newPersistentDataContainer();
container.set(key, PersistentDataType.TAG_CONTAINER, created);

created.set(...); // Will this save?

Will editing a container after setting it edit it or not

[short pilot]

how can i split the PDC line?

[young knoll]

Make a variable for the container

[young knoll]

No idea, tas

[umbral ridge]

I think I do need it

No suitable driver found for jdbc:mysql://...

and on top of that, I need to shade it in the plugin

[sullen marlin]

You definitely don't need to shade it

You may need to load it

[blazing ocean]

don't you have to Class.forName it on older versions

[umbral ridge]

now it works

forgot about Class.forName XD

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[drowsy helm]

Im lactose intolerant

[umbral ridge]

XD

[sly topaz]

it's vegan cheese dw

[dawn flower]

how do i change the light level of every single block

without needing a rocket science degree

[young knoll]

Invisible light blocks :p

[dawn flower]

what happens if players builds on it

[young knoll]

It gets removed

[dawn flower]

-.-

so like

now what

did i use my free help card or what

[mortal hare]

at this point just eat the cheese block straight up

[blazing ocean]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/694661573125472256/1286004545331138560/image0.gif

[tranquil pecan]

Is the GitHub Codespace free? There’s a lot going on in its wiki—can someone explain it simply? Or is it just limited free hours, and then I’ll be charged?

[blazing ocean]

is that the name of your codespace

[tranquil pecan]

uh idk

Well yes i think

removed

I don't know why they give weird names

[blazing ocean]

https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/learning-about-github/githubs-plans#github-free-for-personal-accounts

[tranquil pecan]

o.O

[blazing ocean]

?

[tranquil pecan]

So, we can use it for 30 hours per month

Using Intellij is better

[sly topaz]

codespaces isn't an IDE

it is a remote development environment

it's convenient if you don't have a good PC, or work with multiple desktops thorough the month

I used it at times to host a development minecraft server for example, that way I don't have to do it all on my computer lol

if you have IntellIJ ultimate you can connect to it, otherwise you're gonna be stuck with vscode whose java extensions kinda suck

[vast sapphire]

I’m making a guns plugin and for all guns i’m using a cross bow since it works with 3d models and looks like they’re pointing to shoot. The main problem is the fire rate, some guns have a really fast fire rate, some are slow, but when i hold down right click it’s a constant fire rate, which is slower than the fastest fire rate i have. Is there a way to speed this up in an interact event? Without using runnables since i need tap fire to work as well

[unkempt tusk]

@short pilot Hi Pvz

[sly topaz]

guns are against EULA

[vast sapphire]

it’s a private server

[sly topaz]

well, that doesn't quite make it okay but whatever lol

as for the question itself, you could probably just get rid of crossbows and shoot projectiles at the rate you want

[young knoll]

Max you can do is 1 per tick

[sly topaz]

what if your projectiles are particles