jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 6:29 AM

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there might be some big brain way to do that

outer tendon Mar 26, 2025, 6:30 AM

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Alright, but I'm saying I don't think your warning is necessary.

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:30 AM

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Async plugin loading is just a stupid idea since plugins may have to block the server from starting whilst initialising...

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 6:31 AM

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blazing ocean Async plugin loading is just a stupid idea since plugins may have to block the s...

You right but for the rest of the plugin like BlockBreakEvent for a example, that is where async can be used

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 6:32 AM

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blazing ocean Async plugin loading is just a stupid idea since plugins may have to block the s...

plugins could request to be sync if required

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i mean yeah its not necessary

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just a thought

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:33 AM

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Would just break all plugins made before that version though

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 6:34 AM

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idk @ ike do u wanna make ur exentions load async in helix

ivory sleet Mar 26, 2025, 6:38 AM

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slim wigeon You right but for the rest of the plugin like BlockBreakEvent for a example, tha...

Rip poor block break event

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:27 AM

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I do async plugin loading because once you have enough plugins it actually starts to take a while, and most of the things happening on load can be done in parallel

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Not async in the sense that I patched the server to throw a new thread at every plugin's onEnable, but rather making select time consuming plugins do their startup async and offer a completablefuture for dependents to block on

cursive kite Mar 26, 2025, 7:35 AM

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I am working on an auction plugin - I have an event every second as the GUI shows a live countdown - will this affect performance / is there a solution

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 7:36 AM

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No

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Unless your event is slow

cursive kite Mar 26, 2025, 7:37 AM

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It is working perfectly but just brain storming since in testing I have like 5 items but of course in theory you never know it might become 2000 one day

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 7:39 AM

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server has lots of events per second already

cursive kite Mar 26, 2025, 7:42 AM

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About memory impacts - currently I generate two items, the item being auctions and a modified display auction (lore for countdown/price/etc) - is it necessary to reduce that to one itemstack value (default item being sold) and just generate and throw the lore onto it while being displayed instead of having a display item generate ?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:56 AM

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uh

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huh?

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i'm not sure what your questions it, but aside from items that hold recursive data like shulkers or written books, itemstacks aren't that heavy on memory, it will be fine to have thousands of them

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in some sense the server is allocating and discarding thousands of them all the time, or at least tens for every online player

daring light Mar 26, 2025, 8:15 AM

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What would be the best way to disable redstone in a world?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:28 AM

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listen to the related events and spawn tnt

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:29 AM

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BlockRedstoneEvent -> event.setCancelled(true)

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@jagged thicket you around?

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how did you enable whitelist?

eternal night Mar 26, 2025, 8:47 AM

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@echo basalt it's nexo

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Your PDC issue

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Someone else on paper ran into it, cross referenced with your plugin list, only nexo and mythic mobs matched and removing nexo solved it. They are reporting it as I type this

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:48 AM

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sullen marlin how did you enable whitelist?

whitelist on

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:49 AM

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I still can'tt reproduce

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[19:48:55] [Server thread/INFO]: Login by md_5 from 127.0.0.1
[19:48:55] [Server thread/INFO]: Disconnecting md_5 (/127.0.0.1:46738): You are not whitelisted on this server!
[19:48:55] [Server thread/INFO]: md_5 (/127.0.0.1:46738) lost connection: You are not whitelisted on this server!

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 8:49 AM

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Since the timers is what I can do with my goal. I going to create a manager that my plugin can access. I might be doing too much. But if you look at the code from how SA-MP does it, you see it needs a timerID.

https://sampwiki.blast.hk/wiki/KillTimer

But from the Java end, there is no such thing as a timer id. You get the timer and run .cancel(). So my question is, how would I put multiple timers (BukkitRunnable) into one List<BukkitRunnable> in a named array. Like what I doing with the Player object?private HashMap<Player, List<BukkitRunnable>> timers = new HashMap<Player, List<BukkitRunnable>>();

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:49 AM

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sullen marlin ```[19:48:55] [User Authenticator #1/INFO]: UUID of player md_5 is af74a02d-19cb...

hmm what event are u doing listenin

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:49 AM

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    public void event(PlayerLoginEvent event)
    {
        System.out.println( "Login by " + event.getPlayer().getName() + " from " + event.getAddress().getHostAddress() );
    }```

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:50 AM

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can i show it live?

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:50 AM

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are you offline mode?

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:50 AM

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yes

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:50 AM

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let me try that

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[19:51:08] [Server thread/INFO]: Login by md_5 from 127.0.0.1
[19:51:08] [Server thread/INFO]: Disconnecting md_5 (/127.0.0.1:55738): You are not whitelisted on this server!
[19:51:08] [Server thread/INFO]: md_5 (/127.0.0.1:55738) lost connection: You are not whitelisted on this server!

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still fine

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:51 AM

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very weird

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the test server is still up

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leme jus try again

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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slim wigeon Since the timers is what I can do with my goal. I going to create a manager that...

this seems fine

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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maybe it only affects windows haha

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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what's the question? it looks to me like you answered your own question

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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sullen marlin maybe it only affects windows haha

i did it ptero linux

rough drift Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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jagged thicket i did it ptero linux

what version are you on

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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1.21.4

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 AM

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if you want to associate the list with a String identifier instead of a player, change it to Map<String, List<BukkitTask>>

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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slim wigeon Since the timers is what I can do with my goal. I going to create a manager that...

are you a chatgpt bot?

rough drift Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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jagged thicket 1.21.4

no I mean, build version

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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like how is GTA san andreas relevant

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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i need to build spigot jar 💀

rough drift Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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sullen marlin are you a chatgpt bot?

A lot of people seem bots in this chat lmao

rough drift Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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jagged thicket i need to build spigot jar 💀

/version

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:53 AM

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This server is running CraftBukkit version dev-Spigot-73860e0-f0c8dd3

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i only have the patched version rn

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 8:54 AM

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jagged thicket very weird

You can run ngrok and let people test it. I found out you not getting player's IPs. I was testing my VPN block and I seen "VPN/Proxy detected - (0:0:0:0:1) " so its safe to run. But if you running it on your network, you might wish to avoid this. Ngrok is perfect for protection between its users and the hoster

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:54 AM

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leme re build spigot

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:54 AM

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wat

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:54 AM

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and try again

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:55 AM

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are you a bot?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:55 AM

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no he's just a bit uh

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 8:55 AM

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sullen marlin are you a chatgpt bot?

No, you do know that you cannot use bots on user accounts

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:55 AM

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the way he is

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definitely a human

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self botting is a thing but it's against the tos and whatever

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:56 AM

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jagged thicket and try again

could try 1.21.5 I guess, although I was testing 1.21.4

rough drift Mar 26, 2025, 8:56 AM

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thorn isle definitely a human

makes me think he's not a human

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 8:57 AM

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bots don't get offended and i'm pretty sure he still has me blocked for telling him to start with java basics

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 8:57 AM

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im building 1.21.4

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leme let u know in 5 mins

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i have so many server jars

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idk which is the stock spigot one

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@sullen marlin

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yeah i can reproduce

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:01 AM

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hmmm

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 9:01 AM

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sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:01 AM

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what about if you make a new server folder and start from that

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 9:01 AM

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leme try that

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but i don't think thats the problem

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because i tried it already

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:02 AM

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hmm idk why I'm not getting the issue

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maybe my connection is closing too quickly, I think I see where there could be a bug

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 9:05 AM

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sullen marlin maybe my connection is closing too quickly, I think I see where there could be a...

maybe try in a non local env?

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also weirdly it only happens on the first connect

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@sullen marlin can confirm only happens in offline mode

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 AM

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jagged thicket also weirdly it only happens on the first connect

doesn't happen after reload either, only the first connection of the player

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after restart

pseudo hazel Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 AM

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its probably mojangs fault then

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 AM

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@jagged thicket I think this is a better fix:

Add "DISCONNECTED" to LoginListener.EnumProtocolState.

As first line of try { block in disconnect(IChatBaseComponent) add "this.state = EnumProtocolState.DISCONNECTED; // CraftBukkit"

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does that fix it for you?

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 AM

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i think that will work too

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leme try that

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 AM

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hey guys!

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ive made goals for melee attacking players, but how do you make ones for ranged attacks like a traditional skeleton bow and arrow shooting?

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:34 AM

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Lemehost[09:33:44 WARN]: Can't keep up! Is the server overloaded? Running 6804ms or 136 ticks behind

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Need free hosting, this one not working

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:36 AM

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what was that fork with the async entity pathfinding again?

chrome beacon Mar 26, 2025, 9:36 AM

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Use your PC

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:37 AM

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i vaguely remember someone actually competent implementing it at some point

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:37 AM

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Server given up

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:37 AM

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chrome beacon Use your PC

I been using my PC but what if I need to test the VPN feature?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:37 AM

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not talking about the $100 "async paper forks"

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 AM

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thorn isle not talking about the $100 "async paper forks"

Who said anything about PaperMC?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 AM

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i'm saying $100 async paper forks are not competently written; they're almost universally cashgrabs written by beginners

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but i vaguely remember someone doing async entity pathfinding in a proper open source fork

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i just can't remember which one of them it was

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:42 AM

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thorn isle but i vaguely remember someone doing async entity pathfinding in a proper open s...

I see. Well, pathfinding can be heard. Trying to do that on SA-MP server with the SA map makes my head hurt. You have not given the price but it might be a reasonable price due to the complexity. Just as a note, people want money for their works but I don't think $100 for a plugin is not ok

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:43 AM

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i mean like i feel like spottedleaf or one of the other paper performance nuts has already done this open-source, i remember it being talked about

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:43 AM

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Try to create one and you see what I talking about, you have been warned

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:43 AM

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i'm not commissioning an async pathfinder fork or anything

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pathfinding itself is pretty simple, but there are tons of ai goals associated with mobs which would all have to be made thread safe probably individually

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:46 AM

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thorn isle pathfinding itself is pretty simple, but there are tons of ai goals associated w...

I like to see you create a plugin that has this if that is the case. I just saying that I attemptted this on SA-MP servers with the SA map and I given up

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With their road system

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:47 AM

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i did write a pathfinder for my npc plugin

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Minecraft is more complex than SA-MP because the mobs and all that

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:47 AM

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you can do pathfinding in async pretty easily, what are we smoking today

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:47 AM

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for sure

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i want to take a look though to see if they also async'd the ai goals

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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torn shuttle you can do pathfinding in async pretty easily, what are we smoking today

Who?

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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if you implement your own goal system it can be as async as you want lol

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just remake the game

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but asyncier

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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What is SA-MP ?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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pathfinding itself isn't that expensive these days vs all the goals being started and tested every tick

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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San Andreas Multiplayer

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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depends on the pathfinding

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at a scale it sucks

slim wigeon Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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Its a mod for GTA SA that allows Multiplayer

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:48 AM

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and it sucks if you're pushing follow distance

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:49 AM

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scarcely shows up in my timings but then again i'm not doing anything special with pathfinding, most mobs have like a 20 block follow range or something so it's usually not an issue

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trying to use it for like getting hundreds of blocks away is probably doomed

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:50 AM

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I mean it's not the thing you think about short of wanting to mess with entities at least in the low to high hundreds all at once, or tryign to make a caravan-style mob that can go for thousands of blocks

pure dagger Mar 26, 2025, 9:50 AM

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why doesnt

InventoryClickEvent.getCursor().setType(Material.AIR)
work?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:50 AM

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i just want to try and remember what that fork was to see if they have some work done on the goals

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:51 AM

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uh folia or whatever it was?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:51 AM

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i'm debating looking into having some of the common goals run async and would like to see how others have done it before me

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folia was the regionized ticking thing, right? i don't think that's the type of async i'm looking for

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:52 AM

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yeah it was mostly for async chunks

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iirc

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the main problem I see with throwing too much stuff into async is just that you might end up with some critical behavior that feels sluggish

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:53 AM

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as long as all of it runs every tick there should probably not be more than maybe 50-100ms delay for things to happen, i'm not sure how noticeable that would be

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at least i can't think of an ai goal that'd be that sensitive to delays

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maybe like running around with speed V and mobs chasing you; if the pathfinder lags behind they'll look to be chasing your shadows

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 9:55 AM

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man why is buildtoolsl failing

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I love having my computer getting wiped

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I don't think I had the jdk

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yesterday I had to manually download some stuff for directx 11

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 10:02 AM

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jagged thicket leme try that

Any luck?

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 10:02 AM

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sullen marlin Any luck?

its building

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i think it works

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leme try again

elder berry Mar 26, 2025, 10:09 AM

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I want plugin fakeplayer support 1.19.4

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 10:10 AM

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I want ten million dollars

torn shuttle Mar 26, 2025, 10:10 AM

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I want a billion dollars in gold bars

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 10:10 AM

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elder berry I want plugin fakeplayer support 1.19.4

You're in the wrong place
And no idea what you're demanding here

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 10:11 AM

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@sullen marlin

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Yeah that fixes the problem

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leme open a CB pr

elder berry Mar 26, 2025, 10:14 AM

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smoky anchor You're in the wrong place And no idea what you're demanding here

Where can I get plugins?

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 AM

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Probably here ? https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/categories/spigot.4/

white crescent Mar 26, 2025, 10:26 AM

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Hello, I am trying to add custom font to text into minecraft resourcepack, I added font throught .ttf, added .json for getting the abilities and added it into en_us.json. It doesn´t work, can someone help me please?

📎 abilities_text.json 📎 en_us.json

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 10:27 AM

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I do not think the lang file supports font or anything text component related.

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For this probably go to the Minecraft Commands discord server

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 10:34 AM

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jagged thicket leme open a CB pr

ok opened #1540

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 10:37 AM

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jagged thicket ok opened #1540

perfect, thanks

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 10:38 AM

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sullen marlin perfect, thanks

fastest pr merge %

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speedrun 😎

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 11:01 AM

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@sullen marlin oh no, smth wrong with the patch version

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idk how to fix

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 11:03 AM

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Weird that it passed jenkins

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Let me check

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dw I pushed a fix

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 AM

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thanks

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idk why it happend, im pretty sure i rebased and stuff

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 AM

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spigot sometimes need a rebuild

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usually jenkins catches it, idk why it didnt

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 AM

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alrightt!!

remote swallow Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 AM

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you know what would be crazy

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merging bukkit and cb into spigot directly

jagged thicket Mar 26, 2025, 11:06 AM

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yeah, it would be convenient

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:06 AM

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~~Chocos component pr is a good start~~

eternal night Mar 26, 2025, 11:06 AM

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I do remember a move of a good amount of patches from spigot to CB not that long ago right?

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:07 AM

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I believe we got the number down a bit

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Ye

halcyon dirge Mar 26, 2025, 12:00 PM

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@wise rock hi, could you add me? I need to dm you about some of your projects [sorry for the ping]

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also i thought i was in #general lol

radiant lotus Mar 26, 2025, 1:17 PM

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Is any1 able to make a plugin for my minecraft smp you will get acces to the smp without making a application as you coded the plugin

chrome beacon Mar 26, 2025, 1:18 PM

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?services

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 1:18 PM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

white crescent Mar 26, 2025, 1:34 PM

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Can someone help me to get only some text with different font with minecraft resource pack?

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 1:59 PM

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You can use the font field in a text component

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 2:00 PM

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?components

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 2:00 PM

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For hoverable, clickable, hex colored, or otherwise complex text, use the component API. Documentation can be found here:
https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/the-chat-component-api/

white crescent Mar 26, 2025, 3:04 PM

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I am trying to get it into minecraft first throught resourcepack but I want it only apply the custom font to action bar

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 3:27 PM

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You have to use components as linked above

slender elbow Mar 26, 2025, 4:32 PM

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im sorry to hear that

naive knoll Mar 26, 2025, 5:13 PM

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i use packetevents and i want create armor stand with name above, and i try search what metadata i must use but i can't find. i find some github repository, where if find on which index i should set string name, but i don't know how to do to see this title, anyone have idea?
my actual code:

        WrapperPlayServerEntityMetadata metadataPacket = new WrapperPlayServerEntityMetadata(entityId, Arrays.asList(
                new EntityData(0, EntityDataTypes.BYTE, (byte) 0x20), 
                new EntityData(4, EntityDataTypes.STRING,  nameTag)
        ));```
https://github.com/Attano/Spigot-1.8/blob/master/net/minecraft/server/v1_8_R3/DataWatcher.java
I search in wiki.vg for 1.8.8 in web archive, but information in web archive is not same as in datawatcher class:
https://web.archive.org/web/20151004095301/http://wiki.vg/Entities

smoky oak Mar 26, 2025, 5:24 PM

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player placed leaf blocks know they've been placed by a player. is this something all blocks have or something sepcific to leaves?

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 5:26 PM

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naive knoll i use packetevents and i want create armor stand with name above, and i try sear...

https://github.com/Tofaa2/EntityLib/tree/master

GitHub

GitHub - Tofaa2/EntityLib: A PacketEvents based utility library for...

A PacketEvents based utility library for generating and working with EntityMeta and other Entity features - Tofaa2/EntityLib

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use that

smoky anchor Mar 26, 2025, 5:29 PM

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smoky oak player placed leaf blocks know they've been placed by a player. is this somethin...

I assume you're talking about the 'persistent' state of leaves
not all blocks have this

harsh ruin Mar 26, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Does anyone know anything about TensorFlow?? Please

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:08 PM

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harsh ruin Does anyone know anything about TensorFlow?? Please

?ask

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 6:08 PM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:08 PM

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though that has little to do with plugin development tbh

harsh ruin Mar 26, 2025, 6:09 PM

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sly topaz ?ask

`from keras.models import load_model # TensorFlow is required for Keras to work
from PIL import Image, ImageOps # Install pillow instead of PIL
import numpy as np

Disable scientific notation for clarity

np.set_printoptions(suppress=True)

Load the model

model = load_model("/content/keras_model.h5", compile=False)

Load the labels

class_names = open("/content/labels.txt", "r").readlines()

Create the array of the right shape to feed into the keras model

The 'length' or number of images you can put into the array is

determined by the first position in the shape tuple, in this case 1

data = np.ndarray(shape=(1, 224, 224, 3), dtype=np.float32)

Replace this with the path to your image

image = Image.open("/content/manette.jpg").convert("RGB")

resizing the image to be at least 224x224 and then cropping from the center

size = (224, 224)
image = ImageOps.fit(image, size, Image.Resampling.LANCZOS)

turn the image into a numpy array

image_array = np.asarray(image)

Normalize the image

normalized_image_array = (image_array.astype(np.float32) / 127.5) - 1

Load the image into the array

data[0] = normalized_image_array

Predicts the model

prediction = model.predict(data)
index = np.argmax(prediction)
class_name = class_names[index]
confidence_score = prediction[0][index]

Print prediction and confidence score

print("Class:", class_name[2:], end="")
print("Confidence Score:", confidence_score)`

This is my code to identify an object with teachable Machine in google colab

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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harsh ruin `from keras.models import load_model # TensorFlow is required for Keras to work...

?codeblock

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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You can use the discord code block format to display code or just text in a more pleasing way:
```java
public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
@Override
public void onEnable() {

}```
Becomes:

public class MyPlugin extends JavaPlugin {
    @Override
    public void onEnable() {

    }
}```

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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not for this size

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?paste

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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also is that code ai-generated

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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blazing ocean not for this size

it looks bigger than it actually is because of the accidental titles, I believe

chrome beacon Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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blazing ocean also is that code ai-generated

Probably

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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was about to say myself

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:11 PM

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chrome beacon Probably

no way they did so many comments

harsh ruin Mar 26, 2025, 6:11 PM

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sly topaz ?codeblock

i have this error :
`---------------------------------------------------------------------------
ValueError Traceback (most recent call last)
/usr/local/lib/python3.11/dist-packages/keras/src/ops/operation.py in from_config(cls, config)
233 try:
--> 234 return cls(**config)
235 except Exception as e:

19 frames
ValueError: Unrecognized keyword arguments passed to DepthwiseConv2D: {'groups': 1}

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

TypeError Traceback (most recent call last)
/usr/local/lib/python3.11/dist-packages/keras/src/ops/operation.py in from_config(cls, config)
234 return cls(**config)
235 except Exception as e:
--> 236 raise TypeError(
237 f"Error when deserializing class '{cls.name}' using "
238 f"config={config}.\n\nException encountered: {e}"

TypeError: Error when deserializing class 'DepthwiseConv2D' using config={'name': 'expanded_conv_depthwise', 'trainable': True, 'dtype': 'float32', 'kernel_size': [3, 3], 'strides': [1, 1], 'padding': 'same', 'data_format': 'channels_last', 'dilation_rate': [1, 1], 'groups': 1, 'activation': 'linear', 'use_bias': False, 'bias_initializer': {'class_name': 'Zeros', 'config': {}}, 'bias_regularizer': None, 'activity_regularizer': None, 'bias_constraint': None, 'depth_multiplier': 1, 'depthwise_initializer': {'class_name': 'VarianceScaling', 'config': {'scale': 1, 'mode': 'fan_avg', 'distribution': 'uniform', 'seed': None}}, 'depthwise_regularizer': None, 'depthwise_constraint': None}.

Exception encountered: Unrecognized keyword arguments passed to DepthwiseConv2D: {'groups': 1}`

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:11 PM

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also not related to plugin development

sly topaz Mar 26, 2025, 6:12 PM

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yeah, I was hoping they were using tensor in a plugin for some reason but clearly not the case

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I recommend just joining some random machine learning/python discord, there's bunch of them

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though they'll probably just tell you to not use AI and to learn the thing, ironically

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 6:13 PM

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using AI to build an LLM has gotta be the most ironic shit ever

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 6:16 PM

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it could be the end of us all

umbral ridge Mar 26, 2025, 6:18 PM

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national disaster

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 6:34 PM

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if I want to have several timed tasks run periodically on my server, is it best to make one server ticker task for all of them, or to make separate bukkit tasks?

chrome beacon Mar 26, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Use multiple tasks

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 6:54 PM

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whats the best way to get an array or list of all online players? bukkit#getOnlinePlayers returns a collection..

eternal night Mar 26, 2025, 6:54 PM

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new ArrayList<>(Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers())

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 6:54 PM

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ah thanks

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Why do you want a List specifically?

slender elbow Mar 26, 2025, 6:55 PM

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spoiler alert, you don't

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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That's not true! There are valid use cases for lists!

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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eternal oxide Why do you want a List specifically?

to select a random player

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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and that is not one of those

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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If you're only randomly selecting one random player, you could opt to use an Iterator and stop at a random index instead

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/collections-shuffle-method-in-java-with-examples/

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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doesnt work

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:06 PM

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PES3_HmmSip

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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wont compile

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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Oh, Elgar's example

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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because selected player might not be defined

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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Not Elgar. Lynx

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I can't read

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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or it doesnt know that it should be

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I think

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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worldly ingot Not Elgar. Lynx

yeah lynx is 284 years older smh

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:07 PM

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I mean, like I mentioned, if you're only selecting one random player, you're probably fine just using an Iterator

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In fact, there may even be a Guava method to select a random value from a collection. In Iterables or something

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Eh, kinda. But there is a method to get a value from any iterable object at a given index

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:08 PM

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or just ```java
public static <E> Optional<E> random(Collection<E> collection) {
return collection.stream()
.skip((int) (e.size() * Math.random()))
.findFirst();
}

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:08 PM

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you cant select from a collection so you have to use an enhanced loop

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Collection<? extends Player> players = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers();
Player randomPlayer = Iterables.get(players, ThreadLocalRandom.current().nextInt(players.size()));

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Mine is probably a bit nicer because it actually does have optimization for random access lists, which getOnlinePlayers() theoretically could return

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Plus it uses an Iterator over a stream

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:09 PM

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using threadlocalrandom there is crazy

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:09 PM

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Why?

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:10 PM

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is there really a need for it

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:10 PM

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Is there a reason not to use it?

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:10 PM

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good point

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:10 PM

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It's a Random constant and you don't care about the origin of its values

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If you needed a seeded random, or a specific Random implementation, or a Random instance where you cared about the generation order, then yeah you could use your own instance

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You probably don't need that here KEKW

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I would argue the Math#random() was crazier

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:11 PM

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        int i = 1;
        int randomInt = (int)(Math.random() * Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers().size());
        Player player;
        for(Player p: Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers()) {
            if(i == randomInt) {
                player = p;
                break;
            }
            i++;
        }

I was just saying that this doesnt work because player still might not be defined

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:11 PM

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Oh, yeah, cause player would need to be initialized as null

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:11 PM

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worldly ingot ```java Collection<? extends Player> players = Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers(); Player...

This works fine ^ It's 2 lines. You can use this lol

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:11 PM

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ah yeah

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ArrayList<Player> allPlayers = new ArrayList<>(Bukkit.getOnlinePlayers());

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does it matter if I use this or that?

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:12 PM

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It's a bit unnecessary. You could do it that way, but you don't need to if all you need is one player

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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ok thanks

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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I would do that if I were wanting to select a handful of random players and not getting duplicates

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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only difference really is that iterables is a google commons class iirc

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so it's not in the java standard library

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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Which Bukkit has at runtime, but yes

slender elbow Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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alternatively, always get the first player and say it's random

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/xkcd 221

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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Clearly the best method is to use Bukkit.selectEntities(Bukkit.getConsoleSender(), “@r”).getFirst());

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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doesn't matter in bukkit but that's about the only difference

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:13 PM

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choco when are we getting an xkcd command

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or jish

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:14 PM

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Iterables has some optimizations for List implementations which is nice

  public static <T> T get(Iterable<T> iterable, int position) {
    checkNotNull(iterable);
    return (iterable instanceof List)
        ? ((List<T>) iterable).get(position)
        : Iterators.get(iterable.iterator(), position);
  }

Though I notice they actually only check for List, not if the list is also RandomAccess 👀 So technically, not the MOST optimized

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:14 PM

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young knoll Clearly the best method is to use ```Bukkit.selectEntities(Bukkit.getConsoleSend...

nah, repeat @n until you get a player

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:15 PM

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i kinda hate streams but the streams approach here is probably the superior one

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:15 PM

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I don't think so

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I want to say that internally, CraftBukkit does return a ConcurrentList or something, so that improvement in Iterables helps

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:15 PM

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its a copy on write list i think

slender elbow Mar 26, 2025, 7:15 PM

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yeah it's a COW

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:15 PM

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I mean even better lol. It's still RandomAccess

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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I love cows

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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Or I guess still a List because Guava doesn't care about RandomAccess

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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🐄

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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thorn isle i kinda hate streams but the streams approach here is probably the superior one

i mean in terms of being the least boilerplate without relying on third party libs

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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I'll concede that at least, yes

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:16 PM

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performance wise the cast is probably the best

slender elbow Mar 26, 2025, 7:17 PM

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streams could have optimisations depending on the pipeline configuration and the source spliterator too

eternal night Mar 26, 2025, 7:17 PM

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streams
optimisations

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:17 PM

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if it's in a very hot loop the jit might nuke the streams altogether

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:17 PM

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We're all fucking nerds. This person just asked how to get a random player and we're debating semantics between optimization techniques

#

💀 We need to go outside

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:18 PM

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the weather has been very nice recently

#

finally getting some early spring sunshine after a long winter

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:19 PM

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Make a PR to change getOnlinePlayers to return a List and then use List.get(random.nextInt(list.size))

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:19 PM

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why does it return a collection, anyway

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didn't it use to return a list like 10 years ago?

eternal night Mar 26, 2025, 7:19 PM

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iirc it is a view and promising as little as possible there makes sense

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:19 PM

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It used to return an array

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:19 PM

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oh yeah that's right

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:21 PM

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Is it a view?

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:21 PM

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what about a Map<Integer, Player>

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:21 PM

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    @Override
    public List<CraftPlayer> getOnlinePlayers() {
        return this.playerView;
    }

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I'll be damned

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:21 PM

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or even better, a BiMap<Player, Integer> and you just reverse it

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:22 PM

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So, for the record, it returns an unmodifiable list

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PES_AngeryFuckoff get fucked, COW people

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:22 PM

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Java has bisexual maps?

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:22 PM

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java has turned woke now

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:23 PM

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an unmodifiable view of a cow list, yes? 🐮

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:23 PM

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Probably. I can't be bothered to look at what type DedicatedPlayerList.players is lol

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:23 PM

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blazing ocean java has turned woke now

-# it's a gson class

#

not gson

#

google commons

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 7:24 PM

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even worse

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:24 PM

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guava, whatever

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:24 PM

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public final List players = new java.util.concurrent.CopyOnWriteArrayList(); // CraftBukkit - ArrayList -> CopyOnWriteArrayList: Iterator safety

#

smile

#

It probably hasn't changed

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:25 PM

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where hygot.jar

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:25 PM

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idk somewhere

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here? there? i dunno

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/nms-patches/net/minecraft/server/players/PlayerList.patch#36

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:26 PM

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can I have a copy of C:\Users\chocolate\Desktop\hypixel source code NDA DO NOT PUBLISH OR YOU WILL DIE.zip

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:26 PM

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I don't wanna die :(

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:26 PM

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oh yeah just ignore the file name

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:27 PM

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Also, spaces in the file name?

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jail

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 7:27 PM

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He’ll only die if they find out it was him

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 7:27 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

Tenor

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 7:27 PM

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jail for different reasons

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:13 PM

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How do I stop golden apple potion effects from happening without removing the player's potion effects

#

and I can't cancel the event

echo basalt Mar 26, 2025, 8:17 PM

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blazing ocean can I have a copy of `C:\Users\chocolate\Desktop\hypixel source code NDA DO NOT ...

pretty sure they mentioned something about breaking kneecaps when I asked about NDAs forever ago

blazing ocean Mar 26, 2025, 8:17 PM

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oh mb then

coarse linden Mar 26, 2025, 8:20 PM

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timber eagle How do I stop golden apple potion effects from happening without removing the pl...

I need help on this too please somebody it's impossible

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:20 PM

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Why can't you cancel the event?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:21 PM

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sullen marlin Why can't you cancel the event?

Because it stops the full eating animation and sound, also i can't seem to reduce the itemstack amount

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:21 PM

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The potion effect event??

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:22 PM

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sullen marlin The potion effect event??

What do you mean

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:22 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityPotionEffectEvent.html

EntityPotionEffectEvent (Spigot-API 1.21.5-R0.1-SNAPSHOT API)

declaration: package: org.bukkit.event.entity, class: EntityPotionEffectEvent

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:22 PM

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Yeah so the thing is I can't really use that lol

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 8:23 PM

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is this what the cool kids would call... an XY Problem?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:23 PM

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Nope

#

Trust me it's not

#

I haven't abstracted anything

coarse linden Mar 26, 2025, 8:25 PM

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😭

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:28 PM

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Hypixel is able to do the exact same thing I am trying to do. Take a look at how they implemented golden apples in some of their gamemodes. In the Hypixel Pit they removed the absorption potion effect while also keeping all animations and sounds working fine.

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Why can't you use one of the several options

#

What's wrong with the above event?

#

Or removing the effect?

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 8:31 PM

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timber eagle Hypixel is able to do the exact same thing I am trying to do. Take a look at how...

lol just cancel the eat event and replicate the effects if you really want to

#

I hope that is possible though

#

maybe PlayerItemConsumeEvent

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:32 PM

#

sullen marlin Why can't you use one of the several options

So....

#

I may be on 1.8.8

#

...

#

Listen I have to use it

#

I'm sorry

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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isn't PlayerItemConsumeEvent on 1.8?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Yes

#

If I cancel it the animation wont play fully, same with the sound

#

and cancelling it means you can't change the itemstack using e.setItem, you would have to change it using the player's inventory

#

but still, I want it to be authentic

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 8:34 PM

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if you are really that into it intercept the packet outgoing from the server and discard it, then do your own logic from there

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 8:34 PM

#

oh my god

#

you may just be right

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 8:37 PM

#

1.8 moment

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 8:50 PM

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yo is there some sort of goal priority for entities

where they can target players for combat first but when out of combat will return back to a set starting point

#

like path back

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 PM

#

do you mean PathfinderGoals?

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:01 PM

#

Eggscuse me, wtf is going on, When I include com.sk89q.worldedit or worlguard then com.google.common.base goes to buy milk, but if I dont include worldedit nor worldguard, then it comes back...

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:02 PM

#

LMFAOOO

#

never word something like that EVER again bro

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:02 PM

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move WG/WE to a lower priority in yrou dependencies

#

I found his sentence funny

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

#

eternal oxide move WG/WE to a lower priority in yrou dependencies

But IntelliJ do not even compile it

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

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short pilot yo is there some sort of goal priority for entities where they can target play...

You can easily just code that yourself

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

#

This means it went to buy milk...

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:03 PM

#

task triviality is subjective.

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:04 PM

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if WE/WG packages the common package it will override your dependency if it is higher in the list

#

its about dependency versions

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:06 PM

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<dependency>
<groupId>com.sk89q.worldedit</groupId>
<artifactId>worldedit-bukkit</artifactId>
<version>7.2.7</version>
</dependency>
<dependency>
<groupId>com.sk89q.worldguard</groupId>
<artifactId>worldguard-bukkit</artifactId>
<version>7.0.6</version>
</dependency>

#

I have it like this

#

At the last place in <dependencies>

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:06 PM

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looks fine, reload maven

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

#

#

Its the same..

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

#

modern string utils

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

#

timber eagle You can easily just code that yourself

oh cool! How do paths work in terms of entity goals?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

#

modern

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

#

timber eagle *modern*

Theres legacy too 🙂

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

#

finite path Theres legacy too 🙂

lmao

finite path Mar 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

#

or if you would like to call it as OLD

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

#

and how can I make target goals take priority over pathfinder goal

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:08 PM

#

short pilot oh cool! How do paths work in terms of entity goals?

I'm not sure what your project specifics are

#

I used citizens

#

if you need more customization just use citizens npcs, they cover everything including mobs

#

but if you need vanilla stuff, I really can't help you too much because I've never used the pathfinding

gloomy drum Mar 26, 2025, 9:09 PM

#

is spigot open source?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:09 PM

#

I dont want to just start saying things because I have no clue what your project looks like

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

gloomy drum is spigot open source?

https://github.com/spigotmc

#

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

gloomy drum is spigot open source?

?stash

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

timber eagle https://github.com/spigotmc

the funny part is that doesnt even have spigot itself

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

timber eagle https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT

there ya go

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:10 PM

#

#1 hater

#

only talks to hate

gloomy drum Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 PM

#

I forgot how messy this stuff is with the bukkit stuff that happened damn

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 PM

#

i dont talk to hate

#

i hate to talk

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 PM

#

mellow edge do you mean PathfinderGoals?

yes, that

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 PM

#

i know

earnest girder Mar 26, 2025, 9:11 PM

#

what things might break if you move a plugin from a spigot server to a paper server?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

depends

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

undefined

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

most likely nothing

#

paper to spigot yes

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

hopefully nothing, but who knows for the future

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

will break

#

paper is a fork of spigot

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

short pilot yes, that

ofc they have

eternal oxide Mar 26, 2025, 9:12 PM

#

paper hard forked recently so there is no longer any guaranteed compat

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 9:13 PM

#

short pilot yes, that

villager example:

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

#

mellow edge villager example:

good example, thank you

#

is there any way to configure exact points a and b to move to?

#

like returning to a set point after all other goals aren't valid

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 9:15 PM

#

mellow edge villager example:

PathfinderGoalMakeLove

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 9:15 PM

#

there is a navigator that you can set to a specific position

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:15 PM

#

ok

#

just checking but do goals go in order of increasing priority

#

based on when you register them

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 9:16 PM

#

the number before the goal is the priority

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 9:17 PM

#

I see

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:22 PM

#

timber eagle paper is a fork of spigot

Not anymore!

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:22 PM

#

Did TextComponents/BaseComponents get an update in 1.21.5?
Cause all hover and click events aren't working.

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

finite path

worldguard includes a million outdated libraries (and ancient versions of the bukkit api) as transitive dependencies, you will want to manually exclude them or you'll get conflicts like these, or not finding 1.13+ bukkit classes

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

Did you rebuild recently

#

MD just updated the bungee chat api in spigot

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

Wait, really?

#

What changed?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

in any plugin that builds against worldguard, three quarters of my maven build file is excludes for garbage from worldguard/worldedit

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

Circa 1:30 ago

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:23 PM

#

Frick

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:27 PM

#

What broke?

#

There weren't any intended breakages, so I'd open a bug report

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 PM

#

short pilot I see

btw that was from an old version, now it's similar:

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 PM

#

guys entities with "entity.isPersistent = false" will despawn on server restart?

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 PM

#

sullen marlin What broke?

HoverEvents and ClickEvents seem to have broke.

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 PM

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?notworking

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 9:29 PM

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"Does not working" is a useless statement. Please describe what exactly is not working, what you expect it to do, and what actually happens. If you get any console errors, also ?paste the entire stacktrace.

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:31 PM

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i.e. they are not registering.
All text styling is still present, but any event that is added to the component such as click or hover isn't being set.

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Are you up to date?

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Yes, built it like 5 minutes ago.

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Did they work on a previous 1.21.5 version?

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:31 PM

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I am unsure, cause I am just now getting around to testing 1.21.5

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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Open a bug report with reproduction code please

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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I have tested with 1.21.4 and the events still work as intended.

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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?jira

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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kk

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:32 PM

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manic delta guys entities with "entity.isPersistent = false" will despawn on server restart?

someone knows

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:33 PM

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Yes

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They will not be saved, so if the chunk ever unloads they go bye bye

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:34 PM

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okay, thank you

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:34 PM

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Not to be confused with the vanilla use of the term “persistent” which is equal to removeWhenFarAway in the api

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~~(I blame MD)~~

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:37 PM

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yea

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 PM

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young knoll They will not be saved, so if the chunk ever unloads they go bye bye

if the server restarts and the entity exist they will be removed right

sweet dirge Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 PM

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help
im not receiving the verification email from spigotmc
ive tried doing it many times it doent work

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 PM

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manic delta if the server restarts and the entity exist they will be removed right

Yes

manic delta Mar 26, 2025, 9:39 PM

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thank you

sonic goblet Mar 26, 2025, 9:40 PM

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kind hatch I am unsure, cause I am just now getting around to testing 1.21.5

If you need this “working” before a fix is implemented, I haven’t tested this yet but somebody on my team said this workaround “works” for the 1.21.5 builds.

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 10:00 PM

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Bug report has been made.
https://hub.spigotmc.org/jira/browse/SPIGOT-8024

kind hatch Mar 26, 2025, 10:02 PM

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sonic goblet If you need this “working” before a fix is implemented, I haven’t tested this ye...

Interesting

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 10:09 PM

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mellow edge btw that was from an old version, now it's similar:

im confused then, are we supposed to use behaviorcontroller or the goals?

eager hawk Mar 26, 2025, 10:15 PM

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May be a dumb question, but why do big servers hide their plugins if they are custom made anyway?

remote swallow Mar 26, 2025, 10:16 PM

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No reason, sometimes it's so you don't realise they might have a known exploit with a plugin

eager hawk Mar 26, 2025, 10:17 PM

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Ohh yea

short pilot Mar 26, 2025, 10:18 PM

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eager hawk May be a dumb question, but why do big servers hide their plugins if they are cu...

any given information could be a vulnerability, or you dont want people knowing what anti cheat systems you have set up so it takes more time to bypass them

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 10:23 PM

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Is the protocol lib wiki down

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i can't seem to access it

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 10:26 PM

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short pilot im confused then, are we supposed to use behaviorcontroller or the goals?

this is NMS anyway. If you want to...

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Also note that the previous one was woth spigot mappings and this one with mojang's mappings

chrome beacon Mar 26, 2025, 10:39 PM

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timber eagle Is the protocol lib wiki down

?protocol

undone axleBOT Mar 26, 2025, 10:39 PM

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https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_protocol

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 10:52 PM

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ty

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Hey does anyone know how I can disable a potion effect packet? When using protocol lib, it only disables the visual in the player inventory and not the actual affect it has on the player, for example absorption still produces absorption hearts.

@Override
    public void onPluginEnable() {
        PitRemake.getProtocolManager().addPacketListener(new PacketAdapter(PitRemake.getPlugin(), ListenerPriority.NORMAL, PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_EFFECT) {
            @Override
            public void onPacketSending(PacketEvent e) {
                Player player = e.getPlayer();
                PacketContainer packet = e.getPacket();

                if (ItemUtils.getInstance().isPitItem(player.getItemInHand(), PitGoldenApple.this)
                        && packet.getBytes().read(0) == PotionEffectType.ABSORPTION.getId()) {
                    e.setCancelled(true);
                }
            }
        });
    }

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Is there something I'm missing?

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 10:58 PM

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The effect is server side

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Well, for most things

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You can cancel it with the EntityPotionEffectEvent

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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That's not available to me

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Should I instead look at the source for that event to try and make my own for what I'm working with?

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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I guess so

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Also 1.8 moment

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:00 PM

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The event wont help you much, you need to look at the code implementations of it.

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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yeah that's what I meant

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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young knoll Also 1.8 moment

😭

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Well I'm making a remake of something that is specifically in 1.8

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Again what exactly isn't working

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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Me when I remake a hypixel game instead of just playing on hypixel

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:02 PM

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I need the absorption potion effect to be cancelled

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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young knoll Me when I remake a hypixel game instead of just playing on hypixel

so we are saying things without thinking

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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timber eagle I need the absorption potion effect to be cancelled

but also to keep all the animations and sounds working when I eat a golden apple

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:03 PM

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timber eagle I need the absorption potion effect to be cancelled

If you cancel it what happens?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:04 PM

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If I cancel the packet the visuals are the only thing that is being cancelled

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in the inventory

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The absorption hearts are still present on the server and client. basically it acts as if its still there because it technically is

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and if i cancel the PlayerItemConsumeEvent it wont fully play the golden apple animation and sound

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Yeah that seems logical. Just sending a packet means the server will still recognize it and some time later also the client (after some syncing probably)

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Maybe you'll have to abstract this even further

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:07 PM

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You can just remove the effect a tick later

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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I mean i could but that would mean I wouldn't be able to use the absorption effect at all

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Why?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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and even if I saved the effects before

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its such a bad implementation

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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Just remove it one tick after they consume the apple

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Could also check if the duration matches that of the apple

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:08 PM

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mellow edge Maybe you'll have to abstract this even further

I'm trying to look for the EntityPotionEffectEvent implementation

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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young knoll Could also check if the duration matches that of the apple

that's not a good solution

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really scuffed

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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young knoll Just remove it one tick after they consume the apple

and what if i already have an absorption effect?

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Well then you get to patch the server to implement the event

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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im trying to find a better solution

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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Have fun

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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thanks?

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:09 PM

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No no no do not patch the server if you are gonna release this

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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really passive agressive

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if you dont want to help you dont have to

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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mellow edge No no no do not patch the server if you are gonna release this

I'm not

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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I mean that’s basically your only option

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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it is a possible solution tho. The easiest one.

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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I'd like to find the EntityPotionEffectEvent first

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source

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before patching

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:11 PM

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Do not patch

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Also note that hypixel is working with heavily modified spigot API that has direct controls to the slurce coe that is why they can do what they do

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:12 PM

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yeah

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:12 PM

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You do not want to cancel the absorption why?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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?

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No i want the absorption gone from the golden apple

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without cancelling the PlayerItemConsumeEvent

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:13 PM

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You already sent the packet as I said eralier right? But only the visuals (I assume you mean hearts) are gone

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:14 PM

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No the hearts are still there

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even when I cancel the packet using protocol lib

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:15 PM

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Why are you cancelling the event? Just remove the potion effect with spigot API on the packet fly and discard the packet.

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:15 PM

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I can't get rid of the potion effect like that because that means every other absorption that I gained gets removed too

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it affects other things

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I dont want it to even get sent to the server if it was from a golden apple

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but that's not possible.

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Okay so I guess this whole problem can't really be solved with just packets

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:17 PM

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Yes it is. Check for receiving packet: eating state food and discard the packet while confirming the eating. Look at the actual protocol for concrete impl.

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:18 PM

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The only way I can edit the potion effects packet is with PacketType.Play.Server.ENTITY_EFFECT

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which when cancelled doesn't do what it should

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:19 PM

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I guess you could just cancel the eating and then manually restore hunger

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And saturation

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:20 PM

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Okay well i'm either going to just competely remove the ability to gain the absorption potion effect and just use absorption methods from the nms entity player or im going to patch spigot

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What are the cons about patching spigot?

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:20 PM

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Patching spigot for that small of a change is really, REALLY useless

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On 1.8

sullen marlin Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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Given you're using 1.8, knock yourself out lol

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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lol

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:21 PM

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Not like you have to upkeep it

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Unless we get another log4jshell

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But yeah now that I think about it you can just cancel the eating and apply everything yourself

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Except the absorption

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:23 PM

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young knoll But yeah now that I think about it you can just cancel the eating and apply ever...

e.setCancelled cancels alot more than just the effects

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:23 PM

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The cons:

your plugin will not work on standard spigot, since you will be patching the spigot server itself, which I doubt is recommended for that version

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:23 PM

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I'm probably going to try and patch it, if it fails i just wont use absorption potion effects

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:24 PM

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mellow edge The cons: - your plugin will not work on standard spigot, since you will be patc...

ok

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:24 PM

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It cancels thing that you can easily remake yourself

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Hunger, saturation, removing the item from the inventory

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:24 PM

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The animation, sound..?

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:24 PM

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Didnt he mention that canceling eating cancels the animation of eating?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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doesn't finish the eating sound

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and i'm not trying to hassle my way to fixing that

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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Well you can play the sound

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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does the entity effect event or whatever it was that was suggested earlier not exist on 1.8

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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I thought the event occurs when the animation is done anyway

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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no

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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thorn isle does the entity effect event or whatever it was that was suggested earlier not e...

Nop

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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thats my issue

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if it wasn't so wacky

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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young knoll Unless we get another log4jshell

Is that a challenge?

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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this would be fine

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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Ah choco is here

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I bet Hygot has a similar event he can give you

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Kek

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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With packets you can do something about it

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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well idk man

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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I added the entity potion effect event myself lol

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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fuck it, patch spigot

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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i've researched a good 2 hours

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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give them a regular apple named golden apple and give them the desired effects manually on consume

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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worldly ingot I added the entity potion effect event myself lol

Oh

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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I was annoyed it didn't exist so I pulled it in

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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please inform me

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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I cba to look for the old impl of the event

mellow edge Mar 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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You see he made it now you can ask him how you can do your own replica on 1.8

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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The new one is quite different since yknow, item components

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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New implementation doesn't differ much from 1.7

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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You could probably look at the source for whatever version it was added tho

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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Just the fact it uses integers in most places instead of objects

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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i like how everything can be edible now with components

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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young knoll The new one is quite different since yknow, item components

wouldnt u link the entity effect event into add/removePotionEffect rather than an item consumption?

thorn isle Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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has anyone made an edible cobblestone plugin yet

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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buoyant viper wouldnt u link the entity effect event into add/removePotionEffect rather than a...

Yes

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Idk

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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would make it much more future proofed lol

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Latest has it in net.minecraft.world.component.consumable

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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Like I said, implementation doesn't differ much from current implementation. That's all we do now is overload the add/remove methods and add causes

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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young knoll Latest has it in net.minecraft.world.component.consumable

Is that where i can find it

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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Actually latest has it in a lot of places

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/plugins/servlet/search?q=project%3ASPIGOT repo%3Acraftbukkit EntityPotionEffectEvent

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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Yes, it would have it anywhere addEffect() is called lol

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ARE MY MESSAGES COMING THROUGH!?

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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Cause.MILK

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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I THOUGHT YOU SAID TO PUT IT IN ADD EFFECT ITSELF

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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YEAH

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The event call is in addEffect()'s implementation

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A method overload is added that takes in an optional cause

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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Oh it’s just the cause that’s determined beforehand

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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aPES3_AngeryNod

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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is it this

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while (iterator.hasNext()) {
+                MobEffect effect = iterator.next();
+                EntityPotionEffectEvent event = CraftEventFactory.callEntityPotionEffectChangeEvent(this, effect, null, cause, EntityPotionEffectEvent.Action.CLEARED);
+                if (event.isCancelled()) {
+                    continue;
+                }
+
+                iterator.remove();
+                toRemove.add(effect);
+            }

buoyant viper Mar 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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this is Minecraft

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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do i just need to follow it

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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I mean that's one of them. There are like 3 or 4 call sites for that event

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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damn

worldly ingot Mar 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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They're all in EntityLiving though afaik

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:34 PM

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Yeah okay

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I get how it works

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this probably wont help lol

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I need to get to the root cause

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which is the golden apple

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or the potion effect

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:35 PM

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It’s probably something like ItemGoldenApple

timber eagle Mar 26, 2025, 11:35 PM

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yeah, well im going to patch this so I can actually have a 1:1 replica

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is this a good tutorial? i've never patched tbf

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/tutorial-adding-custom-patches-to-spigot.158694/

young knoll Mar 26, 2025, 11:40 PM

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Seems fine

quaint mantle Mar 27, 2025, 6:47 AM

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buoyant viper Cause.***MILK***

This was Choco, 100%

buoyant viper Mar 27, 2025, 10:57 AM

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quaint mantle This was Choco, 100%

well, yeah, i think he wrote the implementation

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:07 PM

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The start/end message only gets sent when I stand on the pressure plates for a few seconds, not immediately when I walk over it. How come?

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if (playerLocation.equals(startBlockLocation)) {
    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Successfully started parkouring.");
} else if (playerLocation.equals(endBlockLocation)) {
    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Successfully ended parkouring.");
}

pliant topaz Mar 27, 2025, 12:08 PM

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please show the entire code, when does it get called?

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:09 PM

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@EventHandler
    public void walkOverStartEnd(PlayerInteractEvent event) {
        if (event.getAction().equals(Action.PHYSICAL)) {
            Player player = event.getPlayer();
            Location playerLocation = player.getLocation(); // Player's location (contains floating points)

            Set<String> parkours = parkour.getConfig().getConfigurationSection("parkours").getKeys(false);
            for (String parkourName : parkours) {
                Location startPlate = parkour.getConfig().getLocation("parkours." + parkourName + ".start");
                Location endPlate = parkour.getConfig().getLocation("parkours." + parkourName + ".end");

                // Convert to block coordinates (to match integer-based locations)
                Location startBlockLocation = new Location(
                    startPlate.getWorld(),
                    Math.floor(startPlate.getX()),
                    Math.floor(startPlate.getY()),
                    Math.floor(startPlate.getZ())
                );

                Location endBlockLocation = new Location(
                    endPlate.getWorld(),
                    Math.floor(endPlate.getX()),
                    Math.floor(endPlate.getY()),
                    Math.floor(endPlate.getZ())
                );

                Location playerBlockLocation = new Location(
                    playerLocation.getWorld(),
                    Math.floor(playerLocation.getX()),
                    Math.floor(playerLocation.getY()),
                    Math.floor(playerLocation.getZ())
                );

                if (playerBlockLocation.equals(startBlockLocation)) {
                    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Successfully started parkouring.");
                } else if (playerBlockLocation.equals(endBlockLocation)) {
                    player.sendMessage(ChatColor.GREEN + "Successfully ended parkouring.");
                }
            }
        }
    }

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I know the Math floor part is kinda goofy, bcs I need to fix that in the config (but that doesn't matter, the locations are right)

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I'm just curious why it doesn't immediately activate the msg

pliant topaz Mar 27, 2025, 12:10 PM

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would recommend toBlockLocation

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no need for flooring

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:10 PM

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I do need to bcs in my config a coord looks like this

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-48.32442794911786

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and in getBlock().getLocation() its just -48.0

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:10 PM

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pliant topaz would recommend `toBlockLocation`

where exactly?

pliant topaz Mar 27, 2025, 12:11 PM

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i would change the config, because these coords are really nothing you want to work with, especially in a config

pliant topaz Mar 27, 2025, 12:11 PM

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eager hawk where exactly?

on Location

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:11 PM

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pliant topaz i would change the config, because these coords are really nothing you want to w...

yeah ik

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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pliant topaz on Location

Huh sorry, I'm not really following. You just mean naming convention or you mean an acutal method that will activate the msg instantly?

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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is that a paper only method

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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It's spigot

pliant topaz Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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ah heck

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vcs2 is right

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looked at the wrong docs again inflatable

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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finally

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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hahah no worries

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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every fucking time i say something is or is not a paper exclusive method, reality warps, and someone tells me its exactly the other way around

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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Do you have an idea how to instantly activate the message when I walk over a pressure plate in spigot terms?

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Not only after standing on it for like 0.5s

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:14 PM

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i'm pretty sure pressure plates should get depressed instantly when walked over, not sure where that delay would be coming from

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:14 PM

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Hmm weird

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Whenever I walk over it I don't get anything, not even after some time, I really need to stop moving to get the message

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If i hold my W and go over the plate I'm not receiving any msg

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I only get it when I stand still for a second on the plate

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:15 PM

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i'd start by getting rid of that flooring nonsense

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:16 PM

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Yeah ur right

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:16 PM

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compare blocks or int vectors or something

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:16 PM

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Am I supposed to floor it when I put it in my config?

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So I don't get these weird numbers like -48.32442794911786 but just -48.0

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:16 PM

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for sure

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:16 PM

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Alrighty

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thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:17 PM

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on startup i would read the config once, and build a Set<Block> from the locations

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and then do parkourPlates.contains(event.getClickedBlock()) instead of looping over the config

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:18 PM

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Alright!

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Is walking over a pressure plate seen as clicking a block?

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the click in the clip was just by accident haha

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 12:18 PM

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for the PHYSICAL action iirc the "physically interacted with" block is returned by getClickedBlock yeah

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could be wrong, test it

eager hawk Mar 27, 2025, 12:19 PM

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Oh okay

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Will do, thx!

rotund ravine Mar 27, 2025, 1:28 PM

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thorn isle on startup i would read the config once, and build a Set<Block> from the locatio...

Always scares me to see bukkit datatypes being used in a collection, but Block is just a glorified location so phew

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 1:30 PM

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yeah they're not something you want to use willy nilly, and sadly it's not really documented which ones are safe to use or how they behave, so you kind of just have to know or have the sources at hand when working with them

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a lesser known case of this, quite similar to Block, is Chunk

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World::getChunk with the boolean generate overload, when passed false for, doesn't actually even try loading the chunk - it just constructs a world,x,z tuple from the thin air, and so can be safely used in collections as well

remote swallow Mar 27, 2025, 2:32 PM

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rotund ravine Always scares me to see bukkit datatypes being used in a collection, but Block i...

that still scares me bc of the world it holds a reference to

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Iirc it's a weakreference

chrome beacon Mar 27, 2025, 2:35 PM

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It's not

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https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/craftbukkit/browse/src/main/java/org/bukkit/craftbukkit/block/CraftBlock.java#66

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Location on the other hand appears to be using a weakref

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 2:37 PM

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Odd

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It is for chunk

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Not sure if block not using one is an oversight or intentional

chrome beacon Mar 27, 2025, 2:38 PM

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I don't think you're supposed to keep that stored

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Location for example does make sense to be stored though

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 2:41 PM

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i don't think chunk is really supposed to be stored either

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i could maybe see it being more costly on block than it is for chunk or location, since all world access goes through block, and it gets allocated frequently

chrome beacon Mar 27, 2025, 2:43 PM

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hm yeah you're right

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If it's weakref on chunk then I feel like it should be on block as well

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I guess you could create an issue and ask

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or just make a PR 🤷‍♂️

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 2:44 PM

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i don't particularly mind it since i pretty reliably clean anything involving blocks on world unload

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 4:47 PM

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I am been trying to setup hibernate to with a test plugin before I implement it and I keep getting this error.
Error Log:
https://paste.md-5.net/ohonayapev.cs

Pom.xml
https://paste.md-5.net/ruhikodoxi.xml

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 4:56 PM

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flat lark I am been trying to setup hibernate to with a test plugin before I implement it ...

how do you initialize hibernate

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sometimes you have to set the current thread classloader to the one where hibernate is loaded in order or the sql driver to be loaded properly

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 4:59 PM

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private static final String HIBERNATE_CONFIG_FILE_NAME = "hibernate.cfg.xml";

        this.saveResource(HIBERNATE_CONFIG_FILE_NAME, false);
        this.sessionFactory = new Configuration()
                .configure(new File(this.getDataFolder().getAbsolutePath() + "/" + HIBERNATE_CONFIG_FILE_NAME))
                .addAnnotatedClass(Challenge.class)
                .addAnnotatedClass(PlayerData.class)
                .addAnnotatedClass(PlayerTask.class)
                .addAnnotatedClass(Preset.class)
                .addAnnotatedClass(Task.class)
                .buildSessionFactory();

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 4:59 PM

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sly topaz sometimes you have to set the current thread classloader to the one where hibern...

If this is what you mean unless I am dumb lol

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 5:08 PM

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flat lark ```java private static final String HIBERNATE_CONFIG_FILE_NAME = "hibernate.cfg....

apparently this is a different issue, it is related to some sun packages which have been removed in recent java versions

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try upgrading hibernate (the sqlite driver too, while you're at it) and see if that helps

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https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.xerial/sqlite-jdbc
https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.hibernate.orm/hibernate-core
you can see the latest version of these packages here

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do note that hibernate 7 is still in beta so you may use 6.x releases

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if that still doesn't work, try adding the jakarta bind API: https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/jakarta.xml.bind/jakarta.xml.bind-api. You may also need an implementation of this, the only compatible one right now as per Jakarta XML Binding's documentation is Eclipse's one: https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/com.sun.xml.bind/jaxb-impl

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 5:15 PM

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sly topaz apparently this is a different issue, it is related to some sun packages which h...

I'll try that when I get back from college and I'll let you know the results

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 6:18 PM

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hello im making a plugin and im trying to use: customItemItemMeta1.getCustomModelDataComponent().setColors(List.of(Color.WHITE,Color.LIME,Color.BLACK)); does nothing

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:27 PM

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versed plover hello im making a plugin and im trying to use: customItemItemMeta1.getCustomMode...

Show more code please

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But iirc getCustomModelDataComponent returns a snapshot, you have to set it back.
Same as you would do with ItemMeta

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(I believe the docs say that, so read those too)

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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ItemStack customItem1 = new ItemStack(Material.IRON_INGOT);
ItemMeta customItemItemMeta1 = customItem1.getItemMeta();

                    customItemItemMeta1.setDisplayName(itemName);

                    List<String> ItemLore1 = new ArrayList<>();
                    ItemLore1.add("sword");
                    ItemLore1.add(madeFrom);
                    customItemItemMeta1.setLore(ItemLore1);

// AttributeModifier Item1Damage= new AttributeModifier(new NamespacedKey(AInfinitycrafterPlugin.DostatPlugin(),"test"), 3, AttributeModifier.Operation.ADD_NUMBER, EquipmentSlot.HAND.getGroup());
// customItemItemMeta1.addAttributeModifier(Attribute.ATTACK_DAMAGE,Item1Damage);

                    customItemItemMeta1.setItemModel(new NamespacedKey("glam","glam_base"));

// customItemItemMeta1.setItemModel();
customItemItemMeta1.getCustomModelDataComponent().setColors(List.of(Color.WHITE,Color.LIME,Color.BLACK));

// customItemItemMeta1.setCustomModelDataComponent()
customItemItemMeta1.getCustomModelDataComponent().setFlags(List.of(true,false,false));

                    System.out.println(customItemItemMeta1.getCustomModelDataComponent().getColors().toString());
                    System.out.println(customItemItemMeta1.getCustomModelDataComponent().getFlags().toString());

                    customItem1.setItemMeta(customItemItemMeta1);
                    player.getInventory().addItem(customItem1);

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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oh fuck no

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?paste

undone axleBOT Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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https://paste.md-5.net/

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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This is not readable

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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but yes it looks like you're not setting it back

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:29 PM

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'DostatPlugin'
Not only is it in Czech but also it breaks java naming conventions

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 6:30 PM

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sry im just making a plugin for a friend not profesional

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https://paste.md-5.net/ekoqukedow.cs

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 6:32 PM

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still the same answer: you're throwing the component away after editing it

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you need to set it back onto the meta after editing it

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:32 PM

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you need to call ItemMeta#setCustomModelDataComponent
Do the same you do with ItemMeta

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 6:34 PM

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i'm getting fucking radicalized by the frog brain

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i have no idea what mojang did with it but it's looking like frogs are about on par with villagers now, in terms of being incredibly expensive

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 6:49 PM

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NICE works

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thanks so much stuck on this for a weak now 😄

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 6:56 PM

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smoky anchor 'DostatPlugin' Not only is it in Czech but also it breaks java naming convention...

how do you know Czech?

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 6:57 PM

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smoky anchor 'DostatPlugin' Not only is it in Czech but also it breaks java naming convention...

how does it break the naming convention

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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sly topaz how does it break the naming convention

It's a method
methods don't start with capital letters

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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versed plover how do you know Czech?

Try to make a guess

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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oh I thought it was a class mb

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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and that's exactly why we have the convention

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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in translation "GetPlugin"

versed plover Mar 27, 2025, 7:01 PM

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yea i was just happy it works im starting java and programing so sorry that i dont know this stuff or make mistakes

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:16 PM

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sly topaz apparently this is a different issue, it is related to some sun packages which h...

Still getting the same error

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:17 PM

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flat lark Still getting the same error

Did you try adding the Jakarta dependency?

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Yes

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Both the api and impl?

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:17 PM

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sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Hm, is it the exact same error?

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Also, did you keep the old hibernate version or is it 6.x

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:18 PM

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I did update to the lastest 6.x version

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Are you shadowing the Jakarta dependencies?

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:19 PM

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java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/hibernate/cfg/Configuration I get this error if I use the orginal-TestPlugin.jar

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:19 PM

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sly topaz Are you shadowing the Jakarta dependencies?

In my pom?

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:19 PM

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flat lark In my pom?

Yes

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:20 PM

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sly topaz Yes

I have the shading package but i didn't add anything to that
https://paste.md-5.net/bayolohawu.xml

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:27 PM

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sly topaz Yes

I do get this warning tho when building

https://paste.md-5.net/jamimipati.coffeescript

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:32 PM

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flat lark I do get this warning tho when building https://paste.md-5.net/jamimipati.coffe...

try adding <scope>runtime</scope> to com.sun.xml.bind:jaxb-impl

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oh wait

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you're using java 8

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this lib is for java 11+

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:36 PM

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by changing it to 17 right in <java.version>

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:37 PM

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well, you got to have jdk 17 in your path too otherwise it won't work but yes

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Was using 17 the entire time

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same issues

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:50 PM

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flat lark Was using 17 the entire time

honestly no idea

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:50 PM

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Could it be issues parsing the config?

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:50 PM

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try removing the jaxb runtime, leave just the API

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:51 PM

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flat lark Could it be issues parsing the config?

if it is the exact same error, it is because it isn't shading in the jakarta xml binding API

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I'll try setting up hibernate myself in a test plugin just to check

flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 8:51 PM

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thats what my decompiled jar looks like

quaint mantle Mar 27, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Where can i find what all gems do?

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:52 PM

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gems?

quaint mantle Mar 27, 2025, 8:52 PM

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ye

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:52 PM

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what are gems

quaint mantle Mar 27, 2025, 8:53 PM

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like the brougt me here from sort of discord link from the bliss plugin fore minecraft

sly topaz Mar 27, 2025, 8:54 PM

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that sounds like an issue for #help-server though if it is a specific plugin, you might not get a lot of answers. You're better off asking in the discussions tab of the resource in question

quaint mantle Mar 27, 2025, 8:54 PM

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Thank you very mutch !

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flat lark Mar 27, 2025, 9:22 PM

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sly topaz I'll try setting up hibernate myself in a test plugin just to check

If you can get it working that'd be awesome

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Idk if it's also because I didn't competly fill out my classes with columns and stuff

smoky oak Mar 27, 2025, 11:12 PM

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is it possible to have a temporary chat message?

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i want to use it to make a status bar

smoky anchor Mar 27, 2025, 11:14 PM

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the best you can do is clear the chat after some timeout
But you can use just the action bar with some font magic probably

smoky oak Mar 27, 2025, 11:14 PM

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yea i dont want to use resource packs

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guess ill just use the action bar

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:51 PM

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was there a maximum width for the actionbar text? you could offset it with regular old spaces rather than negative width symbols if the width is unlimited

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:52 PM

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how can i get the targetSlot? i mean where the item goes to from a InventoryClickEvent

if(it.action == InventoryAction.MOVE_TO_OTHER_INVENTORY){
                val item = it.currentItem!!
                val player = it.whoClicked
                val targetSlot = it.
            }

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:52 PM

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you don't

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:53 PM

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i cant?

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:53 PM

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not from the event

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you have to look at the item being moved and then the slots in the target inventory and manually determine which slot(s) the item will go into

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:53 PM

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from which then

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wtf

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how

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:53 PM

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find stackable items in the target inventory that stack with the item being moved

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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uhm

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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then take the first one

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and see if it overflows

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and then take the next one

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and repeat until the moved item stack fits in the slots

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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damn that sucks

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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yes

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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a client want that feature

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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its ass

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 PM

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just want to say

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fuck u

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i dont want to do that

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:55 PM

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thorn isle you have to look at the item being moved and then the slots in the target invent...

so i need to cancel

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the event

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and do that logic

thorn isle Mar 27, 2025, 11:55 PM

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i mean depends on what youre doing

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there's no point to cancelling the event and then doing the logic yourself anyway if the effect is the same

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doesn't really matter whether its the server shoving the items in the target inventory or if you shove them in it in exactly the same way

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i assume you're like trying to prevent items from being shift-clicked into a gui or something

manic delta Mar 27, 2025, 11:56 PM

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thorn isle i assume you're like trying to prevent items from being shift-clicked into a gui...

i want to allow that

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but see

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let me record

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a video

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if i shiftclick the event that i have to convert items doesnt work

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:02 AM

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i have absolutely no idea what im looking at or what you are trying to communicate

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you are placing a magnifying glass named search into a toilet?

manic delta Mar 28, 2025, 12:03 AM

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thorn isle you are placing a magnifying glass named search into a toilet?

It is a system where what you put above becomes what is below, the problem is that if I pass it with shift it does not go through the conversion logic

manic delta Mar 28, 2025, 12:03 AM

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thorn isle you are placing a magnifying glass named search into a toilet?

yea

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:05 AM

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mmm well

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in this case, i would listen to the "move to other inventory" click event, wait 1 tick, and then trigger an update for the inventory

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and in that update call do the conversion logic

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no need to cancel and simulate the event, just let the server place the things where the client expects them to go and then process them afterward

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though you will have to fill the bottom row with some invisible item or gui element so it can't be shift-clicked into

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 12:19 AM

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manic delta i want to allow that

items go into the first available slot that it fits to include stacking. So if you fill all slots and left a slot open then the item will always go into that one open slot as long as it can't be split and stacked (other items have to be the same including metadata which is how you can control splitting in a sneaky way)

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Anyways, if you need to know where all items went even if it were split up, you just hold a copy of the inventory

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compare to later

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and then its just getting the differences

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:25 AM

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iirc partial stacks are prioritized over empty slots

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so it's not necessarily the first available slot, you'll want to loop over partial isSimilar stacks first

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:27 AM

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PlayerInputEvent

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☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️ ☝️
So I'm using playerInputEvent but I cant get key release... I asked GPT and it said I could do it with packets... Would this work?

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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that doesn't look right to met at a glance

orchid furnace Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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Why would you ask chat gpt

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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those look like the input packet fields

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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cuz I was lazy

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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but its using the vehicle steer packet

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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🤷‍♀️ ik

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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use the input packet

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:30 AM

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hence why im asking

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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have you tried it

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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thorn isle use the input packet

what do those look like

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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see the protocol documentation

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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thorn isle have you tried it

nope, haven't used dependencies yet

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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is your question how to use dependencies?

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:31 AM

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now it is 😂

orchid furnace Mar 28, 2025, 12:32 AM

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😭

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:32 AM

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but I could just look up some tut for that

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:32 AM

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https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib?tab=readme-ov-file#using-protocollib

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:32 AM

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thx

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if I use custom packets should I still use playerinputevent for detecting the first keypress?

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technically I should cuz it's a trigger for the script (an event) right?

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:36 AM

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what's a custom packet

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are you writing a mod?

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:36 AM

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sry wasn't thinking I mean just a packet 🤦 had a long day

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:36 AM

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you could use the event, but if you're already listening to the packet, you might as well keep your handling all in one place

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i.e. the packet listener

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:37 AM

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hmm yeah that'd be smart

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thx

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but if I do that doesn't it listen for every packet? putting more load on the srv?

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:41 AM

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thorn isle https://github.com/dmulloy2/ProtocolLib?tab=readme-ov-file#using-protocollib

why the dependency not found?

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:42 AM

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did you add the repository to <repositories>

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:42 AM

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yes

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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did you reimport the project

remote swallow Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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reload maven

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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open the maven side pane on the right

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and click the circular arrow buttons to reimport the project

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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remote swallow reload maven

worked thx

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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thorn isle and click the circular arrow buttons to reimport the project

or the refresh button

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thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:43 AM

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there are also like 5 other buttons that do this scattered in random places of the ui, but the side pane is the most reliable

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that'd be the circular arrows yes

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:44 AM

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thorn isle there are also like 5 other buttons that do this scattered in random places of t...

yeah I've made plugins in the past just not with dependencies

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:44 AM

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bukkit api/spigot api is a dependency

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no different from protocollib in principle

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:44 AM

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ik

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I mean like ones that I add

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 12:45 AM

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i guess everyone uses the mcdev plugin these days

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 12:45 AM

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ye lol

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thx for the help

manic delta Mar 28, 2025, 12:52 AM

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thorn isle in this case, i would listen to the "move to other inventory" click event, wait ...

ill try

manic delta Mar 28, 2025, 12:52 AM

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wet breach items go into the first available slot that it fits to include stacking. So if y...

i just told him to fuck off anyway

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lol

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:00 AM

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Allo, I was working on a skyblock plugin, and was curious what the performance tradeoffs, if significant, are for having multiple islands per world or one island per world?

thorn isle Mar 28, 2025, 1:04 AM

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worlds use an amount of memory

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it isn't significant in reasonable numbers but it will absolutely fuck you over if you have them in the high dozens or even hundreds

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and there aren't many advantages that i can think of in making it island-per-world

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:14 AM

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ok ty I was just curious if it was even significant for slime worlds

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 1:26 AM

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manic delta i just told him to fuck off anyway

Lol

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 1:27 AM

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thorn isle it isn't significant in reasonable numbers but it will absolutely fuck you over ...

actually on that subject I wanted to make a similar plugin for my srv idea, and it requires seperate islands for players as well as undisruptive world creation. my main idea was to have empty worlds and load it and paste a schem into it (schem being player's island) and then give that player that world, when they log out the world saves the schem and removes all data from it before unloading. In the case of a lack of vacant worlds we would need to create temporary worlds (preferably async).

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

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I like the idea of unloading, I feel like that would remove the performance issue

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 1:40 AM

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yeah

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and instead of storing the block data in the worlds just store them in schem files

amber fjord Mar 28, 2025, 1:41 AM

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It's not in javadocs (I checked) but does anyone know if Damageable#damage() does damage values before modifiers (such as armor) or after (armor piercing damage)

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 1:42 AM

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I think its before modifiers

amber fjord Mar 28, 2025, 1:42 AM

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damn

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any way outside of that class to be able to inflict armor piercing damage?

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 1:44 AM

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hmm not sure, def possible i'm sure I just dont know how

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I was thinking about just using the slime world format

ivory sleet Mar 28, 2025, 1:48 AM

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w/o ruining things here, has slime world manager been mentioned?

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:48 AM

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?

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I was looking at their API for slime worlds

ivory sleet Mar 28, 2025, 1:48 AM

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but I presume that's not what you're looking for exactly?

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 1:49 AM

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I mean I'm not against using it to manage the world format for me

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also finegamez have you done any performance testing? is it feasible to do it in that manner by unloading the world when not in use?

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:32 AM

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red bolt actually on that subject I wanted to make a similar plugin for my srv idea, and ...

Worlds use up more resources then just putting it in some far off chunk that gets unloaded when not in use.

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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wet breach Worlds use up more resources then just putting it in some far off chunk that get...

so it's actually better to create a grid like system for players like each player gets a 16x16 chunk area?

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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Yes

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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but will that still make it use up a lot of storage space

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:33 AM

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You just space them far enough from each other if you dont want islands visible to each other. And dont load the chunks that are so many away

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:34 AM

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cuz I'm pretty sure say hypixel they use a schem based thing I'm pretty sure they give you like a simulated world not too sure how they do that but its like a separate world without being an actual world I think

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:34 AM

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red bolt but will that still make it use up a lot of storage space

Only if you generate the chunks between islands but even then you just use a void world which is just all air. Chunks that are only air take up no more then like 1kb

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:35 AM

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wet breach Only if you generate the chunks between islands but even then you just use a voi...

oh ok good

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:36 AM

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red bolt cuz I'm pretty sure say hypixel they use a schem based thing I'm pretty sure the...

They are capable of utilizing different methods such as using a vm per world where it is more optimal. It appears its on one server when really its not. Its a bumch of vm worlds on a box

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:36 AM

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yeah

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ik that they use multiple machines and resources but still

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its not one srv for sure that'd be insane and impractical

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:37 AM

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However for smaller networks using 1 or 2 worlds is the best choice in terms of cost and resources

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:37 AM

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wet breach However for smaller networks using 1 or 2 worlds is the best choice in terms of ...

hmm alr

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but like what if players play generate an island and never join again

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it uses up space for nothing

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no?

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:38 AM

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You would have a system in place that tracks where their island is at. If gone for like 2 months delete the chunk lol

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:38 AM

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thats what I would do but some just take a long break, a schem system while still being stored takes alot less space no?

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Then use schem for storing their island for future use. Schematics take up the same amount of space the island will in a void world. Differences being schem wont save entities or lighting info

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:40 AM

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oh yeah... so it would end up being harder for no real reason

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Schems are nice in generated worlds because you only save structures and the sorts and not the rest of the world with it...usually lol.

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:42 AM

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my worry also comes with migration reasons... if I want to transfer to another host or just store the files for a period of time im obligated to store the full world which each island may not be much but overal it adds up and instead of managing some several mb files it may be 20gb worth of a world I would think...

unless I'm overestimating the amount of storage void worlds take up

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:42 AM

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wet breach Schems are nice in generated worlds because you only save structures and the sor...

true

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at the end of the day it's probably not that bad tho, I'm overthinking it

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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I read somewhere that Hypixel does a server per world for skyblock

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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mental trail I read somewhere that Hypixel does a server per world for skyblock

its vm's

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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then disables it when everyone is gone

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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I think

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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yeah probably containerized

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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yeah

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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kubernetes or something

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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yes yes I think your right

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tells me smth

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but some overcomplicated custom solution for sure

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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well for their amount of users

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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ye lol ofc

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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I'm sure it's worth it haha

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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overcomplicated for the average srv I mean

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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yeah

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:45 AM

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mental trail I'm sure it's worth it haha

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mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Well, I guess I'll have to make a custom layer over a skyblock plugin now

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because I cba recreating all the functionality from scratch

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:46 AM

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yeah

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:46 AM

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red bolt my worry also comes with migration reasons... if I want to transfer to another h...

Mc doesnt store every air block. It stores air block and puts a range. This way it only had to store 1 air block or just a few instead of all of them. Thus it isnt wasting space. Only blocks placed use up more storage. In a 10kx10k chunk area a generated world on average if fully generated area takes up like 10gb of space and with 100 players they will probably contribute to about another 5-10gb of space in like a years time

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A void world with 100 players you are looking at like 5gb at most lol

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:47 AM

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wet breach Mc doesnt store every air block. It stores air block and puts a range. This way ...

and I guess I could still have a couple different worlds

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:48 AM

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But that is 5gb in a years time

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:48 AM

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wet breach A void world with 100 players you are looking at like 5gb at most lol

even if each player has like 16x16 chunks

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:49 AM

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A single chunk would take up no more then like 30-50mb depending on what that player is doing. They would really need to fill that entire chunk which is not easy in skyblock.

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:49 AM

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also random question I dont want to interupt the subject but do you know if coreprotect works with itemsadder

wet breach Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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Have no idea, never used it

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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ugh coreprotect

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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wet breach A single chunk would take up no more then like 30-50mb depending on what that pl...

alr thats good

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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mental trail ugh coreprotect

whats bad abt it?

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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I had to go searching for their patreon just to get a working jar

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:50 AM

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huh?

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I just downloaded it off spigotmc

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worked fine

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then later updated from 1.20.1 to 1.21.1

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just fine

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:51 AM

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mine kept spitting errors with one of the plugins on 1.21.4

red bolt Mar 28, 2025, 2:51 AM

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huh

mental trail Mar 28, 2025, 2:51 AM

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I don't remember which one exactly

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