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upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:42 AM

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Just image when you join to server and you see DOOM

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wtf

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Wait sec

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This 1.18

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Uhh?

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This NOT FIXED?

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:44 AM

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upper hazel This NOT FIXED?

it is fixed basically for all versions
the initial hotfix was editing a config file
the true fix was later updating the log4j version I believe

quaint mantle Jan 13, 2025, 10:45 AM

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upper hazel This NOT FIXED?

He used client with exploit on

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Truly "don't try this at home" moment

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:45 AM

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all the nms entity tutorials are outdated too (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Then why exists plugins for fix it

quaint mantle Jan 13, 2025, 10:46 AM

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vagrant stratus all the nms entity tutorials are outdated too (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Just work at mojang for latest info 🗿

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:47 AM

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Nah. I'm trying to do NMS stuff w/ 1.20+ lol

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I'm using mojang mapped 😎

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Everything's 1.11 or below KEK

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:47 AM

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quaint mantle He used client with exploit on

How it if you say this was fixed

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Start fix version is..??

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:48 AM

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in 1.18 you could change the config file to enable the exploit
also, that tweet is years old

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:48 AM

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1.12?

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:49 AM

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public static final EntityTypes<EntityZombie> ZOMBIE = register("zombie", EntityTypes.Builder.of(EntityZombie::new, EnumCreatureType.MONSTER).sized(0.6F, 1.95F).eyeHeight(1.74F).passengerAttachments(2.0125F).ridingOffset(-0.7F).clientTrackingRange(8));
Mobs are registered like this nowdays, rendering everything useless.
Can't directly call register either 😐

quaint mantle Jan 13, 2025, 10:49 AM

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upper hazel How it if you say this was fixed

Should've used "enabled" instead of "on"

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:49 AM

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smoky anchor in 1.18 you could change the config file to enable the exploit also, that tweet ...

Lool

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This exists in SETTINGS

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:49 AM

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well no

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it's log4j config which normal user will never see

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:51 AM

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Oh cool if default this disabled

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And fixed

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:51 AM

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yes, that was done for all versions

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:51 AM

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no custom command either

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scammed

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@tender shard get yo ass in here.
Guide for registering custom NMS entities for 1.20+ pls

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everything's outdated lmao

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:53 AM

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I want see nms API

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:53 AM

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upper hazel I want see nms API

Forge/fabric

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with mixins

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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Plugin nms API))

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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I don't think that makes any sense

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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smoky anchor with mixins

I can use it in plugins?

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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that's just the spigot-api

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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smoky anchor I don't think that makes any sense

Why

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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NMS API is literally the spigot api lol

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:54 AM

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I think there are some projects that allow that
But don't...

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:55 AM

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unless you mean using NMS directly, which is also possible (but stupid usually)

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:55 AM

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vagrant stratus NMS API is literally the spigot api lol

But not allowed all

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:55 AM

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In which case, you use NMS directly

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or PR a new API method

quaint mantle Jan 13, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Ngl api covers 90% of use cases

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Yea, but I want isSunSensitive D:

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and the ability to spawn hostile mobs during the day D:

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:57 AM

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quaint mantle Ngl api covers 90% of use cases

Where 10℅

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:57 AM

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vagrant stratus and the ability to spawn hostile mobs during the day D:

just give mobs an item as hat to prevent them from burning durng day
and recreate mob spawning algo smh

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:57 AM

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No thanks. I try to do things w/ pure vanilla specifically so I'm not recreating stuff

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:58 AM

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vagrant stratus Yea, but I want `isSunSensitive` D:

I want create "custom" entity

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 10:58 AM

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just use a dapatack zzz

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 10:59 AM

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Lol

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 10:59 AM

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AnimatedJava ftw!

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 10:59 AM

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datapack's not an option for what I'm wanting to do, at least not without making it more difficult for devs and server owners

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 11:00 AM

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I remembered doing rust in minecraft and there were so many datapacks there

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For inventity, items

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This crazy

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 11:01 AM

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"how can I do X?"
"with a datapack"
"no"
ok :D

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 11:01 AM

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quaint mantle Ngl api covers 90% of use cases

I think 60-70℅

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:01 AM

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Because I'd be mixing code and datapacks. That's too messy

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 11:03 AM

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I disagree

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 11:03 AM

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slender elbow just use a dapatack zzz

It would be convenient if the client would load datapack without the possibility to choose when going to the server

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Invisible loading

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Or just kick

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If not want

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:04 AM

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I disagree with your disagreeing because it means server owners have to modify both a plugin config and datapack, or everything has to be rewritten to work within a datapack.

I'd prefer just doing everything w/ full code since that's what is already happening

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Large enough datapacks are already a bitch and a half just to modify as well

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Question. How hard is it to register a fake player to the server ?

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Like he will real player

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:07 AM

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upper hazel It would be convenient if the client would load datapack without the possibility...

That already happens partially
not everything can be sent to the client tho (like functions or worldgen) 'cause they need server-sided context
stuff like tags or enchantments do get sent to client

upper hazel Jan 13, 2025, 11:08 AM

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smoky anchor That already happens partially not everything can be sent to the client tho (lik...

cool

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:11 AM

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The library I'm using is also code only w/ 0 datapack support too 🙂

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:12 AM

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assuming you only need to enable mobs spawning during day
can you not use reflection to change the light level setting of a dimension definition ?

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:16 AM

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Depends on how it's setup 🤔

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:19 AM

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Nvm, it's a record, not even reflection can touch that

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:20 AM

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public static boolean checkMonsterSpawnRules(EntityTypes<? extends EntityMonster> entitytypes, WorldAccess worldaccess, EntitySpawnReason entityspawnreason, BlockPosition blockposition, RandomSource randomsource) {
        return worldaccess.getDifficulty() != EnumDifficulty.PEACEFUL && (EntitySpawnReason.ignoresLightRequirements(entityspawnreason) || isDarkEnoughToSpawn(worldaccess, blockposition, randomsource)) && checkMobSpawnRules(entitytypes, worldaccess, entityspawnreason, blockposition, randomsource);
    }

There's ignoresLightRequirements. Can't set that though 😐

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oh that's just a TRIAL_SPAWNER check lmfao

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 11:22 AM

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upper hazel It would be convenient if the client would load datapack without the possibility...

clients don't need to install data packs

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:22 AM

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actually I have a dumb idea on how I can do this. Question's are

How big's the compiled jar gonna be and
will this even fucking work

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?tas

undone axleBOT Jan 13, 2025, 11:23 AM

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https://tryitands.ee/

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:23 AM

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time to do that thing

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 AM

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ok now I'm really curious to see what you're cooking

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 AM

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stg if this works

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Knowing my luck, probably not?
But if I can make it work for other things that'll be nice lol

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Compiled. Will it run and work properly though 🤔

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:35 AM

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Oh the suspense

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:37 AM

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gonna be waiting. I don't have a non-remapped 1.21.4 jar to test with lol

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over an MB though. Gonna have to hope the libraries plugin yml option will save this lmfao

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loaded

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no errors

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will it do the thing

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(probably not, but we can hope)

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:44 AM

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oh :O

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:46 AM

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answer: no
I wonder why 🤔

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 11:46 AM

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Damn, sadge
And I wonder what the frick you cooked 🤔

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 11:50 AM

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okay might know why, if this doesn't work I can't do exactly what I want D:

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No, purely because of the way mapping works KEK

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I'd have to add the mapped server jar to maven & figure everything out that way which isn't necessarily bad just annoying

young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 12:22 PM

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What demonic code is optic writing now

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:)

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:23 PM

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Trying to figure stuff out cause there's nothing in the spigot api & I can't override methods and shit D:

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I don't think i can do what i want (yet), but I have some ideas on ways I can use this lol

young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 12:26 PM

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What do you want to do

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:28 PM

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Well for NMS a few things.
Allowing hostile mob spawns during the day (unless there's a way to do this with base spigot) & isSunSensitive

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but I've moved to more cursed code

young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 12:32 PM

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Mmm yeah I can’t think of an easy way to do that

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Other than rewriting the mob spawn system

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:32 PM

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isSunSensitive is a EntityMonster thing

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it just returns true lol

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Not sure how the first would be allowed though 🤔

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I know there's a method to check if hostile mobs can spawn, not sure on a clean way to impl overriding

tulip pine Jan 13, 2025, 12:35 PM

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vagrant stratus isSunSensitive is a EntityMonster thing

hi can you open site ip bans?

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my virtual server got banned

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 12:35 PM

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no he cannot

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:35 PM

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no

tulip pine Jan 13, 2025, 12:35 PM

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oh

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:36 PM

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If this new cursed code works.. then i'm gonna be during a looot of cursed shit lol

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 12:37 PM

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stop breaking stuff optic

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:37 PM

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No

young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 12:37 PM

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ASM!

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:37 PM

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If I can make this work it'll both be cursed, but clean things up kinda lol

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 12:38 PM

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ignite!

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:38 PM

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but I think the mapping system is gonna fuck it alll up lmfao

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Might be forced to work w/ the obf'd jars rip

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I just want to do cursed shit D:

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I DID A THING

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 12:57 PM

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young knoll ASM!

lmfao that could actually work, but I'm doing something else

smoky oak Jan 13, 2025, 1:24 PM

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if i set PlayerDeathEvent message to 'null' does it print an empty line or nothing at all?

smoky anchor Jan 13, 2025, 1:25 PM

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?tas But it is @Nullable so I assume it will work like that.

undone axleBOT Jan 13, 2025, 1:25 PM

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https://tryitands.ee/

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 1:26 PM

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smoky oak if i set PlayerDeathEvent message to 'null' does it print an empty line or nothi...

yes

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it does nothing

smoky oak Jan 13, 2025, 1:26 PM

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kty

smoky oak Jan 13, 2025, 1:27 PM

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undone axle https://tryitands.ee/

also can i just say i hate this? it would be much better if it didnt exist and people would say nothing or just answer the bloody question :/

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 1:27 PM

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i mean if people don't know

slender elbow Jan 13, 2025, 1:28 PM

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yeah i love getting flooded with "i don't know" answers, idk why people don't do that more often

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 1:31 PM

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why do we exist just to suffer

smoky oak Jan 13, 2025, 1:57 PM

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vagrant stratus why do we exist just to suffer

most likely anthrophrotic principle or however you spell it

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 7:12 PM

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Hi, maybe someone here has expirence with that kind of logic with InvUi library. What I am trying to do? I have a normal gui with an VirtualInventory as an ingredient, where players can put and take items, I want to "synchronize" it - I mean when two players are watching this gui and someone put items the second player will also see it. I would be really gratefull for any kind of help.
Here is my code: (I am new using this library)

📎 message.txt

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 public void openInventory(Player player, AssortmentChest assortmentChest) {
        Gui.Builder<Gui, Gui.Builder.Normal> guiNormalBuilder = this.getGui(assortmentChest);
        Gui gui = guiNormalBuilder.build();

        int usedWeight = assortmentChest.getUsedWeight();
        int weightCapacity = assortmentChest.getWeightCapacity();

        Window window = Window.single()
                .setViewer(player)
                .setGui(gui)
                .setTitle("Skrzynia " + usedWeight + "/" + weightCapacity + "kg")
                .build();

        window.open();
    }

summer scroll Jan 13, 2025, 7:22 PM

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hollow vessel ```java public void openInventory(Player player, AssortmentChest assortmentChes...

Maybe you could store the Window object, and whenever player wants to access it, just get the object and do Window#open(Player)?

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From what I can see that everytime that method is called you're creating a new inventory, so it's a different inventory essentially.

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 7:34 PM

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summer scroll Maybe you could store the Window object, and whenever player wants to access it,...

good idea, I will test it out

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 7:40 PM

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summer scroll Maybe you could store the Window object, and whenever player wants to access it,...

it doesn't work, I need to close gui before opening again and its still not working

summer scroll Jan 13, 2025, 7:42 PM

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hollow vessel it doesn't work, I need to close gui before opening again and its still not work...

Ah, maybe it's best to ask on their discord support server.

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I'm not really familiar with InvUI

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 7:43 PM

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they are not answering 😦

summer scroll Jan 13, 2025, 7:43 PM

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Why do you need to close the gui before opening it again?

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 7:58 PM

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summer scroll Why do you need to close the gui before opening it again?

because it is throwing an error that the windows is already opened

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 7:58 PM

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@young knoll Praise be libraries

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 8:05 PM

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why dont you use compact packages

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:08 PM

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remote swallow why dont you use compact packages

library requires that specific package structure lol

hollow vessel Jan 13, 2025, 8:10 PM

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hollow vessel Hi, maybe someone here has expirence with that kind of logic with InvUi library....

bb

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 8:15 PM

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vagrant stratus library requires that specific package structure lol

im talking about the ide feature to turn it into 1 folder marked as org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_21_R3

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:15 PM

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oh. I like it this like so that empty packages aren't a bitch

sullen marlin Jan 13, 2025, 8:16 PM

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remote swallow im talking about the ide feature to turn it into 1 folder marked as org.bukkit.c...

Netbeans default 😇

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:17 PM

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Ah md, do we have a way to randomize mobs on spawn within spigot?
e.g. cats, sheep, etc?

sullen marlin Jan 13, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Not sure, I thought at least at one point they just did

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:18 PM

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hmm

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lemme double check

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@sullen marlin Same code as spawn eggs?

Cause for sheep I'm seeing only White, Gray, Black, and Brown

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gonna check w/ spigot api, but I have a feeling it might be the same lol

sullen marlin Jan 13, 2025, 8:22 PM

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What other colours do sheep spawn?

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Aside from like a 0.0001% chance for pink, if that still exists

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:22 PM

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In my case, it's any color (and age)

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I've got like.. 10ish if statements lmfao

sullen marlin Jan 13, 2025, 8:23 PM

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That's something you have to do yourself, there's no natural green sheep in mc

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:23 PM

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vagrant stratus <@263617378032680962> Same code as spawn eggs? Cause for sheep I'm seeing only ...

for pure vanilla, these

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Yea, doing this for Ageable, Axolotl (For the blue color), Cats (Non-vanilla spawning), Sheep (All colors), Mooshroom, and Foxes

Might have to double check those last 2 using vanilla spawning

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Praise be randomization

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Threw this stuff under extensions, just so I can CraftCat#randomize and somewhat clean up code lol

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Hoping I can do the same w/ abstract classes & abstract methods, then I don't have to cast all over the damn place lmfao

quaint mantle Jan 13, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Car

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:34 PM

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        if (mob instanceof Ageable) {
            CraftAgeable ageable = (CraftAgeable) mob;
            ageable.randomize();
        }

        if (type == EntityType.AXOLOTL) {
            CraftAxolotl axolotl = (CraftAxolotl) mob;
            axolotl.randomize();
            return;
        }

        if (type == EntityType.CAT) {
            // FIXME: Can't use an extension for this one, otherwise compilation breaks
            Cat cat = (Cat) mob;
            randomizeCat(cat);
            return;
        }

        if (type == EntityType.MOOSHROOM) {
            MushroomCow cow = (MushroomCow) mob;
            randomizeMushroomCow(cow);
            return;
        }

        if (type == EntityType.FOX) {
            Fox fox = (Fox) mob;
            randomizeFox(fox);
            return;
        }

        if (type == EntityType.SHEEP) {
            Sheep sheep = (Sheep) mob;
            randomizeSheep(sheep);
            return;
        }

Haven't fully ported it, but this is the current mess lol

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Did something similar w/ jockeys too, albeit not fully supported yet

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:42 PM

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what is an extension

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:43 PM

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cursed code

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Adds new methods to classes

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e.g. this adds a CraftAxolotl#randomize method to the code

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:46 PM

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so mixins but worse

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:47 PM

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Actually, I'd say better. You're not having to do super annoying annotation stuff just to add a new method or something

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:47 PM

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how is it annoying

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mixins are great

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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if we're going for worse though, let me present the jockey code:

        if (isJockey && entity.isValidJockeyMob()) {
            entity.convertIntoJockey();
        }

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:48 PM

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interface injection is not annoying at all

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:49 PM

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2 annotation, no PITA annotations like fabric
just needs a specific dir structure

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 8:54 PM

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i feel like that would also be like 2 annotations with fabric

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possibly only 1

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u would just need to cast, if anything

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:55 PM

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buoyant viper u would just need to cast, if anything

Wouldn't have to cast in my case if I knew how to modify abstract classes (if even possible D:) (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:55 PM

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vagrant stratus 2 annotation, no PITA annotations like fabric just needs a specific dir structur...

i mean ```java
interface Randomizable {
void apply();
}

@Mixin(CraftAxolotl.class)
class CraftAxolotlMixin implements Randomizable {
@Override
void apply() { ... }
}

Entity entity = ...
if (entity instanceof Randomizable randomizable) {
randomizable.apply();
}

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that ain't a PITA

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:57 PM

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Registering's different for fabric as well https://wiki.fabricmc.net/tutorial:mixin_registration
Where you'd have to manually add everything, the above code is 100% automatically

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:57 PM

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sure you're gonna need to add two lines to a json file

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which your ide has a literal button for

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 8:57 PM

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he doesnt use intellij like a normal person though

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:58 PM

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cause IJ sucks

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 8:58 PM

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what do u have against intellij :(

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:58 PM

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dude netbeans is NOT better

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

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i think opti is jus a Hater fr

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hates intellij

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

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actual brainrot

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

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hates mixins/fabric

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

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he hates anything that isn't his 2014 spigot netbeans

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 8:59 PM

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buoyant viper what do u have against intellij :(

1 window/project, tf kinda design is that?

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:00 PM

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i fucking Love that design actually

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i hated Eclipses workspaces with a passion

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:00 PM

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I hate it

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:00 PM

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you are aware they have a workspaces plugin right

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:00 PM

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Install a plugin just for functionality in an IDE I'm already using?

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you do realize how dumb that sounds, right?

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:01 PM

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lmao this guy

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you realise you can open multiple windows right

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:01 PM

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but his workflow

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:01 PM

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yea, annoying as hell having to alt-tab

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:02 PM

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blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:02 PM

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vagrant stratus yea, annoying as hell having to alt-tab

then install a plugin

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it's not that deep

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:02 PM

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ooor just use an IDE I've been using for 5+ years with the functionality built in?

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:03 PM

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there are modern replacements

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:04 PM

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None that interest me enough to switch, install a plugin, and re-learn everything

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:04 PM

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is installing a plugin really that hard to you

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:05 PM

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i mean

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Hard? No.
Pointless? Yea, pretty much

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:05 PM

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in his defense it would also mean installing a whole different IDE

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:05 PM

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are you saying netbeans does not have an ij plugin

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:06 PM

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buoyant viper in his defense it would also mean installing a whole different IDE

and learning an entirely new IDE..... just to replace one single feature that's already buit-in in an IDE I've used for almost 6 years now

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:06 PM

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i mean eclipse to intellij wasnt a very hard move

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idk

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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Shortcuts, UI, etc, etc

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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get with the times

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how does netbeans even look

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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like eclipse, probably

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so stuck in 2014

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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ugly then

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yep

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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like eclipse but shiter

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:07 PM

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I don't need an IDE to look nice lmfao

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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u drive a hard bargain, however

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hehe pretty UI

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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you preferably want a tool you're gonna be staring at for 10 hours a day to not look like absolute dog shit

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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same reason I don't switch to linux for the customization options.
Idc about them lmfao

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:08 PM

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but maybe that's just me

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:09 PM

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u dont switch to linux becos ur a plain jane

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:09 PM

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Switched NB to a dark theme & called it a day

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:09 PM

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i dont switch to linux because i cant play Fortnite

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we are not the same

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(im worse)

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:09 PM

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stg I could see rad switching to the newest JS library which dies a week later just because it's newer

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:10 PM

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that would imply I use JS in the first place

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:10 PM

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just think about the resumee tho

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"experience in 35 different frameworks"

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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vagrant stratus stg I could see rad switching to the newest JS library which dies a week later j...

and what makes you think that

just because i don't use an ide that's stuck in 2014?

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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And you're assuming I require or need a modern IDE. I don't lmao

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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when did I say that

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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alright honestly

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this actually looks a bit better than eclipse

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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still looks bad

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Yea, exactly. It's good enough

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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eclipse actually i take it back

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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Idc about looks but it's better than eclipse lmfao

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:12 PM

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i haven't used eclipse in like 5 years

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

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those icons are like Massive

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compared to IJ or Eclipse

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im all for visibility but like

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Fuck

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

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need muh 10000 icons

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

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ngl didn't even notice

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

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wait untill you find out i use the old intellij ui

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:13 PM

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i am aware of that

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:14 PM

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blazing ocean need muh 10000 icons

if it dont look like this ion want it

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:14 PM

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kekw

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love comparing libreoffice to an ide

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:15 PM

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mmmmmm old ui

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:15 PM

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If I do use IJ, it'll be because I'm paid lmfao

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:15 PM

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not buildtools!

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:15 PM

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it was the first project i pressed radical steven

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:16 PM

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the old UI isn't that bad tbh

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:16 PM

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blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:16 PM

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i just really don't like the file location thing whatever at the top but you can remove all the

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it's now way smaller and at the bottom

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:17 PM

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cant say i ever look at it often

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i also like words not icons

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:18 PM

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too much for my poor eyes to handle

remote swallow Jan 13, 2025, 9:18 PM

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the new ui is also fat i feel

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covers too much of my code i cant process it properly

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:19 PM

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remote swallow cant say i ever look at it often

Yea, I don't look at NB's UI that often either.
I just remembered the import keybinds & what not

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Also, wait until rad learns I use sublime text for literally anything that isn't java

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:19 PM

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hi, for some reason i cant cast a block (that i checked the material of to be an ACTIVATOR_RAIL) to a Rails class to check the isOnSlope() method... please help (version 1.12.2 plz dont bully me)

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:19 PM

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vagrant stratus Yea, I don't look at NB's UI that often either. I just remembered the import key...

how do you not look at your ides ui

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:20 PM

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I look at the code, duh

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:20 PM

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brazen obsidian hi, for some reason i cant cast a block (that i checked the material of to be an...

Forgot to say; there is no ActivatorRail class

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:20 PM

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the actual important bit of an IDE

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:20 PM

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that's still part of the ui

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:21 PM

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vagrant stratus Also, wait until rad learns I use sublime text for literally anything that *isn'...

Use it for C++ and Python currently lol

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:21 PM

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yeah knew you were a fucking menace

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even vs would've been better

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:21 PM

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switched from notepad++ two or so years ago lol

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:22 PM

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i use nano 🗿

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:22 PM

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needed better highlighting and NP++ didn't have a plugin kek

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:23 PM

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blazing ocean yeah knew you were a fucking menace

I make money by coding, not using an IDE

blazing ocean Jan 13, 2025, 9:23 PM

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do you make money

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:24 PM

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brazen obsidian hi, for some reason i cant cast a block (that i checked the material of to be an...

guys can someone help instead of yapping about ides?

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:24 PM

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I have premium resources and bought my PC from it (and like <$20 in donations), so I'd hope so

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:25 PM

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vagrant stratus needed better highlighting and NP++ didn't have a plugin kek

Praise be good highlighting

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got like... 20-ish different colors. Makes going through logs infinitely easier

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:27 PM

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brazen obsidian hi, for some reason i cant cast a block (that i checked the material of to be an...

u gotta check with the BlockData

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:27 PM

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vagrant stratus I have premium resources and bought my PC from it (and like <$20 in donations), ...

also got $0.56 pending on modrinth atm

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so

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:27 PM

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or well cast the BlockData to Rail i think

vagrant stratus Jan 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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(I'm probably not gonna update that lmfao)

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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buoyant viper u gotta check with the BlockData

oh so its not the Block itself?

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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nope

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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oh thats why, thank you so much

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:28 PM

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same goes for items

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u check with the ItemMeta rather than the Item/ItemStack? itself

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:29 PM

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I cant cast this though

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Rails rails = (Rails) railBlock.getType().getData();

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railBlock is a Block btw

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@buoyant viper

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:32 PM

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i think its just railBlock.getData no?

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getBlockData() *

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:33 PM

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buoyant viper i think its just railBlock.getData no?

no, im on 1.12

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thats the tricky thing

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:36 PM

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try uh

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Rails rails = (Rails) railBlock.getBlockState().getData()

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alternatively: update ur server and plugin to latest mc

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:37 PM

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ok this seems to work let me try

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Rails rails = (Rails) railBlock.getState().getData();

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yay it worked

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:41 PM

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oh yeah

brazen obsidian Jan 13, 2025, 9:41 PM

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thanks youre the best fr

buoyant viper Jan 13, 2025, 9:41 PM

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np

smoky oak Jan 13, 2025, 11:15 PM

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is it possible to obtain a chunksnapshot of how a chunk would have generated for any version (current or previous)

desert ingot Jan 13, 2025, 11:19 PM

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young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 PM

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?services

undone axleBOT Jan 13, 2025, 11:24 PM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

desert ingot Jan 13, 2025, 11:27 PM

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young knoll ?services

Really? you require 20 posts to create the thread in section hiring dev

young knoll Jan 13, 2025, 11:33 PM

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Prevents spam

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You can always contact devs that have offering threads

desert ingot Jan 13, 2025, 11:52 PM

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Yeah that's faster solution thanks for advise

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 12:13 AM

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smoky oak is it possible to obtain a chunksnapshot of how a chunk would have generated for...

No. You would only be able to get a snapshot of how it would generate with the version you are using. Some of the previous versions have fewer block types, lack of data, and then occasionally the world generation code has been altered itself thus making it impossible to know how it would generate in a prior version.

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This is why the seed you use in a previous version can generate an entirely different world in an updated version

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 12:14 AM

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I bet I know what a void world looks like in all versions

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like a psychic

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 12:15 AM

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Lmao well i am not sure if they were referring to void worlds

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 12:16 AM

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me neither but it makes it easier so I'll go with that

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very clever

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 12:17 AM

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Well true

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 1:54 AM

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is there any way to make intellij stfu about missing controller value at the top level for JavaFX FXML?

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its annoying af

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as im loading those dynamically

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due to how javafx is nasty and does allow you to fetch by id predictibly

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and i need to set dependency injection via constructor

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but controllers expect to have no arg constructor in order to construct them implicitly via reflections

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so im left with unpredicatable lookup() method that allows you to select elements, but it depends on the css and layout results of the notation, so it may be unpredictable depending on the element you've used to fetch it, since you're relying on internal implementation output

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or these errors which actually not errors since i do setController() at the runtime

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or i can do setter injection, but that's even more nastier

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for gods sake is there any good UI framework in java that doesnt suck

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like really

halcyon hemlock Jan 14, 2025, 2:16 AM

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mortal hare for gods sake is there any good UI framework in java that doesnt suck

Here's a tip: Don't use java

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 2:18 AM

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mortal hare for gods sake is there any good UI framework in java that doesnt suck

Doesn't exist

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 6:11 AM

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mortal hare for gods sake is there any good UI framework in java that doesnt suck

not java but kotlin: compose!

ivory sleet Jan 14, 2025, 7:34 AM

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interoperability with Java 🤩

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 AM

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Imagine trying to use compose functions in java 💀

ivory sleet Jan 14, 2025, 7:39 AM

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hehe

viral halo Jan 14, 2025, 7:39 AM

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does anyone know how to set custom nbt to an itemstack in new 1.21

worthy yarrow Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 AM

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why not use pdc?

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?pdc

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 7:41 AM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-guide-to-1-14-persistentdataholder-api.371200/

digital karma Jan 14, 2025, 9:03 AM

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Hey! Wanted to ask, does the spigotmc site has any API or way to update a plugin from a CI ?

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just trying to automate the process of deploying a plugin

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 9:04 AM

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no, also spigotmc is for releases not continuous builds

digital karma Jan 14, 2025, 9:04 AM

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Alright thanks! Yeah I was only thinking about releases

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 9:25 AM

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digital karma Hey! Wanted to ask, does the spigotmc site has any API or way to update a plugin...

just point download to external jenkins Ci pipeline

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:36 AM

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Hello I uploaded my plugin on spigot but it doesnt look right, how do i update it's description?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:37 AM

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edit

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:37 AM

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Cant find that option anywhere

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:37 AM

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bottom of the page I believe

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:37 AM

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Nope, nothing there

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:38 AM

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half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:38 AM

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And where is that, all i see is report

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:39 AM

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you are not logged in then

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:40 AM

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I am, i literally just posted it xd

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:40 AM

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you have to have 2fa enabled to upload/edit

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:42 AM

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Just enabled it and yeah still nothing

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T-T

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is there a different url for that or where am i going wrong

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:43 AM

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nope, its just on the plugin page

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:44 AM

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Yeah its def not there

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:45 AM

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has teh plugin been approved yet? Not sure if that has an effect

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:45 AM

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It goes through approval? didnt know that

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how can i check that

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 9:46 AM

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I believe it does, to prevent spam/trojans

half fjord Jan 14, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Alright i guess imma wait then?

Its just the images i inserted are mis aligned. gottta fix that T-T

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Ah yeah, it just appeared xd

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ty

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 9:58 AM

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half fjord Just enabled it and yeah still nothing

May take up to an hour to process the permission change if you just enabled it

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FYI it would've told you at the top of the page this is something you needed to do

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:19 AM

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who the hell in javafx dev team decided to make XML based format for GUI's but decide not to add proper id fetching support

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what if i want to attach controllers dynamically

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instead of using their @FXML annotations

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that's a bad design if you ask me

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the fact that JavaFX doesnt have DOM api equivalent of document.getElementById() is just... what?

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closest to this is lookup("#id"), but then you have implementation specific css selectors, like who the hell decided that this is a good idea

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https://tenor.com/view/mad-redshirt-red-redshirtmad-kid-mad-gif-26094399

Tenor

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:43 AM

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Is there a way to check interact event every tick (20times a second) ?

mortal vortex Jan 14, 2025, 10:45 AM

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wooden frost Is there a way to check interact event every tick (20times a second) ?

Schedular

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:45 AM

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mortal vortex Schedular

any other ways (if you mean calling a 4tick long schedule every 4 ticks(not actually checking if he is still interacting))

mortal vortex Jan 14, 2025, 10:45 AM

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wooden frost Is there a way to check interact event every tick (20times a second) ?

But why?

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:46 AM

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obvious mojang rule violation XD

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want to make a pew pew

mortal vortex Jan 14, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Do you know how Spigot works?? Why do youu need to check an event?? Events fire themselves???

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:46 AM

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wellll yesss

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i may not know.

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let me re-phrase. How do you check if player is inputing RMB every tick?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:47 AM

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you can't

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you get one event on first click, then you get a new event if they hold it down to repeat

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:47 AM

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eternal oxide you can't

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

Tenor

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datapacks better?

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i remember people did that with datapacks💀

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 AM

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If you can do it with datapacks then thats your only way

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 AM

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crazy that there s no actual way still

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 AM

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API does not provide any method to check

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 AM

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eternal oxide If you can do it with datapacks then thats your only way

nah, im good, had enough of that shit

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made me in-sane

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 AM

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well, there is no packet sent for a key up so the server can;t know when you release

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it only knows on press/repeat

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:50 AM

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SHIELD

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ISBLOCKING()

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https://tenor.com/view/hog-boar-emoji-mindblown-mind-blown-slideshow-meme-gif-26390794

Tenor

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 AM

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blocking is not teh same as a key press

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its a toggle

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so a packet is sent to block and release

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 AM

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eternal oxide so a packet is sent to block and release

every tick you can check if he is .isblocking()

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optimised?no

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works

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 AM

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yes

wooden frost Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 AM

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yess

pseudo hazel Jan 14, 2025, 11:31 AM

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datapacks are good to extend the way people can configure your plugins

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like I can just say my plugin has terrain generation, butif you load your own datapack in there with custom generation then my plugin can yoink the gen settings and use that instead

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thats free customization

grim ice Jan 14, 2025, 11:43 AM

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eternal oxide you get one event on first click, then you get a new event if they hold it down ...

then can't you use that logic to imitate what he's trying to do

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 11:43 AM

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depends what he is trying to do

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he asked if he coudl check if a key is pressed each tick and the short answer is no

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not unless an event is triggered by toggling the key

grim ice Jan 14, 2025, 11:44 AM

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eternal oxide it only knows on press/repeat

well, it's up when it's not being pressed/repeated

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 11:44 AM

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he actually asked about checking interact event each tick, so no as he's talking about mouse clicks

grim ice Jan 14, 2025, 11:44 AM

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🤷

grim ice Jan 14, 2025, 11:45 AM

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eternal oxide he actually asked about checking interact event each tick, so no as he's talking...

ic

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 11:45 AM

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with mouse clicks there is no signal for stop pressing

smoky oak Jan 14, 2025, 2:18 PM

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if i generate a chunk does it get loaded? if yes does it lazy load the eight surrounding chunks and generate them?

solemn meteor Jan 14, 2025, 3:24 PM

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C:\WINDOWS\system32>"C:\Program Files\Java\jdk-23\bin\java.exe" -Xms512M -jar "C:\Program Files\NMS\1.21\BuildTools.exe" --nogui --remapped --output-dir "C:\Program Files\NMS\1.21"
[--nogui, --remapped, --output-dir, C:\Program Files\NMS\1.21]
Loading BuildTools version: git-BuildTools-f901b6f-188 (#188)
Java Version: Java 23
Current Path: C:\Windows\System32
*** Could not find PortableGit installation, downloading. ***
Starting download of https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/releases/download/v2.45.2.windows.1/PortableGit-2.45.2-64-bit.7z.exe
Downloaded file: PortableGit-2.45.2-64-bit\PortableGit-2.45.2-64-bit.7z.exe with hash: 851a15074dea6b272785b2a2a4697a72970256de2afe7b8e4a9c5e168c27ccdd
Extracting downloaded git install
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.RuntimeException: Error running command, return status !=0: [C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe, /D, /C, C:\WINDOWS\system32\PortableGit-2.45.2-64-bit\PortableGit-2.45.2-64-bit.7z.exe, -y, -gm2, -nr]
        at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.runProcess0(Builder.java:1042)
        at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.runProcess(Builder.java:967)
        at org.spigotmc.builder.Builder.startBuilder(Builder.java:212)
        at org.spigotmc.builder.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:60)

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I'm confused onto whats happening

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 3:28 PM

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running a buildtools.exe through java?

solemn meteor Jan 14, 2025, 3:29 PM

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Nevermind

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I fixed it, brain fart

solemn meteor Jan 14, 2025, 3:30 PM

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eternal oxide running a buildtools.exe through java?

yeah, and the simple fix was to run as administrator

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thought my uac already handled it but apparently not

merry cove Jan 14, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Hey, deployed api and depend on it in a third party plugin but somehow [16:34:55] [Server thread/ERROR]: [skytester] Plugin skytester v1.0.0 has failed to register events for class me.albusthepenguin.skytester.Sky because me/albusthepenguin/api/events/SkylineSendPlayerEvent does not exist. in the multi module project I can do it across modules but unsure why I can't use third party plugin to do so ? what am I missing. it's the correct path.

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(yes I depend)

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<project xmlns="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0"
         xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
         xsi:schemaLocation="http://maven.apache.org/POM/4.0.0 http://maven.apache.org/xsd/maven-4.0.0.xsd">
    <modelVersion>4.0.0</modelVersion>
    <parent>
        <groupId>me.albusthepenguin</groupId>
        <artifactId>Skyline</artifactId>
        <version>2.1.5</version>
        <relativePath>../pom.xml</relativePath> <!-- Adjust path if necessary -->
    </parent>

    <distributionManagement>
        <repository>
            <id>github</id>
            <name>GitHub Maven Repository</name>
            <url>https://maven.pkg.github.com/AlbusThePenguin/Skyline</url>
        </repository>
    </distributionManagement>

    <packaging>jar</packaging>

    <artifactId>skylineapi</artifactId>

    <build>
        <plugins>
            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-install-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.1.0</version>
                <configuration>
                    <skip>false</skip>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>
            <plugin>
                <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId>
                <artifactId>maven-deploy-plugin</artifactId>
                <version>3.1.0</version>
                <configuration>
                    <skip>false</skip>
                </configuration>
            </plugin>
        </plugins>
    </build>
</project>```

chrome beacon Jan 14, 2025, 4:42 PM

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merry cove Hey, deployed api and depend on it in a third party plugin but somehow ```[16:34...

Make sure that class is present at runtime

merry cove Jan 14, 2025, 5:00 PM

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chrome beacon Make sure that class is present at runtime

how do one do that?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 5:30 PM

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some1 in the mood th help me find my memory leak in my src lol

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:31 PM

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?ask

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 5:31 PM

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If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

eternal night Jan 14, 2025, 5:31 PM

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take a heap dump and find what object is leaking?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 5:32 PM

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i got told thats not possible

eternal night Jan 14, 2025, 5:32 PM

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HUH

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 5:32 PM

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its just possible by looking at the src itself

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is what they told me

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:33 PM

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you can do it from looking at the src, having a heapdump tell you whats leaking makes it easier to figure out where its coming from

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 5:33 PM

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how can i make a headdump?

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heapdump sorry

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i got spark

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 5:34 PM

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/spark heapdump

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:34 PM

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you can create a heapdump with spark, https://spark.lucko.me/docs/Command-Usage#spark-heapdump

Command Usage | spark docs

/sparkb, /sparkv, and /sparkc must be used instead of /spark on BungeeCord, Velocity and Forge/Fabric client installations respectively.

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 PM

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if you're storing block states or similar that'd be why

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 PM

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im calling its a location or a player

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 5:35 PM

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and now?

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 5:36 PM

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lol on brawls we had 200000 vec3/blockpos in a heapsummary before

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:36 PM

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oh so just a few

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 5:36 PM

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like 2000 is normal for vanilla I think

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 5:36 PM

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jovial mason and now?

use something like MAT or visual vm to open the heapdump

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(https://eclipse.dev/mat/)

The Community for Open Innovation and Collaboration

Memory Analyzer (MAT) | The Eclipse Foundation

The Eclipse Foundation provides our global community of individuals and organizations with a mature, scalable, and business-friendly environment for open source …

chrome beacon Jan 14, 2025, 5:59 PM

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blazing ocean lol on brawls we had 200000 vec3/blockpos in a heapsummary before

They do get copied a ton

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So not that surprising

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:18 PM

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remote swallow use something like MAT or visual vm to open the heapdump

does that work with intellj too?

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 6:21 PM

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wdym does that work with intellij

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:22 PM

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open heapdump sorry xD

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 6:22 PM

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intellij is an ide not a heap dump analysis too

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:22 PM

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oh ok my provider is down rn i install visualvm and read it then

sullen canyon Jan 14, 2025, 6:22 PM

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jovial mason open heapdump sorry xD

you don't need eclipse to use MAT

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:22 PM

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i hope it says which plugin

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 6:41 PM

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watch it be some list holding player objects

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and never releasing them

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:41 PM

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how exactly i read it now?

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i cant tell what it means :((

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jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:44 PM

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remote swallow intellij is an ide not a heap dump analysis too

I cant read that lol

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 6:45 PM

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try mat, and did you actually make it cause the mem leak

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just creating a heapdump after a server is started wont help very much

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 6:46 PM

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How can i create that while the server crashes?

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now i am confused XD

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:03 PM

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remote swallow just creating a heapdump after a server is started wont help very much

also at what do i have to look at? instaces of size classes by numbers or classes by size of instances

sharp bough Jan 14, 2025, 7:13 PM

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jovial mason How can i create that while the server crashes?

how bad of a leak is it that you cant get a dump?

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spark has a memory dump command that will crash / slow down the server but gather all data you need to identify the leak

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even a simple heapsummary might be enough to find the leak

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if its too bad

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:17 PM

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but i cant predict the memory leak server crash

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idk when it crashes thats what i mean

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:19 PM

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Why are you so certain its a memory leak? Do you actually run out of memory?

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as nothing you have said so far actually indicates a memory leak

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:23 PM

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yes

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console says: out of memory: true

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:23 PM

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um

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you get a stacktrace when it crashes? as an out of memory does generate a stack trace

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:24 PM

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how i get that?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:24 PM

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the jvm will throw an error

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:24 PM

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i dont have a root server

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just a game server

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i dont get it

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:24 PM

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the game server console will show the jvm error

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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it doesnt get logged :((

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it says error and a number

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nothing else

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wait

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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you are on a hosted panel or something?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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novacloud@ryzen01~ Server marked as offline...
[Novacloud Deamon]: ---------- Detected server process in a crashed state! ----------
[Novacloud Deamon]: Exit code: 137
[Novacloud Deamon]: Out of memory: true

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thats what i get

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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how much ram does this thing have?

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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Deamon
kekw

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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14gb

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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is the mc server allocated all 14gb?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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unlikely you are using 14gb

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:25 PM

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yes

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i am

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its in the startup

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:26 PM

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how often does it crash?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:26 PM

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every 9 hours

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:26 PM

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damn, thats a HUGE leak. It shoudl be simple to find

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:26 PM

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I think the issue is GC and because GC needs ram to do its thing it dies

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:26 PM

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a huge leak??

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elgarL pls help me if its easy to find XD

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i am trying to find it for 3 days

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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noleeks

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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doubt they are using JVM arguments for allocations above 10GB

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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if you have 14gb and you assigned it ALL to the jvm you will run out of memory

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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?flags

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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Aikar's garbage collection flags: https://aikar.co/2018/07/02/tuning-the-jvm-g1gc-garbage-collector-flags-for-minecraft/

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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i can show u the startup

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java -Xms128M -Xmx14336M -XX:+UseG1GC -XX:+ParallelRefProcEnabled -XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=200 -XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions -XX:+DisableExplicitGC -XX:G1NewSizePercent=30 -XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=40 -XX:G1HeapRegionSize=8M -XX:G1ReservePercent=20 -XX:G1HeapWastePercent=5 -XX:G1MixedGCCountTarget=4 -XX:InitiatingHeapOccupancyPercent=15 -XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=90 -XX:G1RSetUpdatingPauseTimePercent=5 -XX:SurvivorRatio=32 -XX:+PerfDisableSharedMem -XX:MaxTenuringThreshold=1 -Dusing.aikars.flags=https://mcflags.emc.gs -Daikars.new.flags=true -XX:+HeapDumpOnOutOfMemoryError -jar server.jar

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and it still runs out of memory with that

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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do not assign ALL memory to the jvm

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:27 PM

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i sadly cant change that

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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why?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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its not editable

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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shitty host I assume

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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yeah

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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a host not allowing you to do that is bad

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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very bad

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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i could make a ticket

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probably

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but there is still a memory leak tho?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:28 PM

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possibly not

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IF that max memory is ALL the systems memory then GC may never trigger

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:29 PM

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GC does trigger I see memory spike from 10gb to 5gb and then back to 10gb

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:29 PM

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eternal oxide do not assign ALL memory to the jvm

they are probably using docker which is fine

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:29 PM

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ok, then just run spark at 1 hour and again at 5 hours

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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docker ram allocation isn't done the same way as jvm allocation

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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see what has increased by a LOT

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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u mean a spark heapdump? or how its called idk

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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jovial mason u mean a spark heapdump? or how its called idk

what plugins are you running and are any of them you made?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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yes 4 selfmade

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i am pretty sure they are corrupted

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i cant code i used chatgpt ... xD

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:30 PM

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that....explains a lot

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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is source public?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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I can give the src

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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how moch you wanna bet they're storing some kind of block state or player reference

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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i dont store that

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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bound ot be be some map leak yep

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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blazing ocean how moch you wanna bet they're storing some kind of block state or player refere...

this is what I said a while back, watch it be a list storing player objects and never releasing them

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:31 PM

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I got maps

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i got 5 plugins tho idk which one is the corrupted one

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prob all

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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not sure why you call it corrupted

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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Cuz its fcking my memory

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XD

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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corrupted implies they don't work, clearly they are working

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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You are right..

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its just frustrating

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:32 PM

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blazing ocean if you're storing block states or similar that'd be why

frost I said it before you

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:33 PM

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since u guys dare to bet on my src error i just post my src XD

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https://pastebin.com/CBKt1bcQ

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https://pastebin.com/UuWh5S4Y

Pastebin

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see something there?

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its main and other class

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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List<Player>
List<Entity>

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knew it kekw

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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WHAT

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???

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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those instances only exist when a their online or alive respectively

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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but u said never release

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 7:35 PM

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once they log out or die the server doesnt need that instance and you dont remove that reference to it

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:36 PM

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when they log out and comer back its a NEW Player. they will not match their old ones

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:36 PM

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its not loading

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how can i fix that?

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pls be so kind

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 7:38 PM

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use the leave event and remove them from the list when they left

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this ensures the list is kept cleared of old objects

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but there is probably a lot of other stuff that is wrong too

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:39 PM

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looks like he does remove in the quit event

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:39 PM

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        flying.remove(player);
        boosted.remove(player);

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aint that it?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 PM

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yes, so its unlikely to be that plugin causing issues

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 PM

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can i send u the other plugin too?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 PM

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yes

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:40 PM

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thank you

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i think thats okay

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Wait

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thats the outdated code..

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https://pastebin.com/d2PKJuhr

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sorry

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if u guys could tell me what i have to look at i can look for myself :D

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:44 PM

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Set<Player>

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you're still storing player references

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:44 PM

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huh which plugin now

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:45 PM

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the last one you sent

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:45 PM

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ah yeah

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:45 PM

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You don;t listen to the quit event to remove teh Player from the Set in the bed plugin

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:45 PM

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you shouldn't be storing players in the first place

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:45 PM

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So what does that mean? i dont know what that means i told u its ai XD

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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if the player quits while they are in a bed they will forever be in the Set

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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Ohhh if they get knocked out of bed

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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if they log out/disconnect

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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i need a player quit event?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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yes

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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and then bedenter delete player?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:46 PM

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no

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Same as the onBedLeave event

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:47 PM

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BedEnter.remove(event.getPlayer())?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:47 PM

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yes, for teh quit event

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Okay thank you, give me pls a sec

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Though to be a serious memory leak you would have to have a lot of players quit while sleeping

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:49 PM

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i have a few other plugins which have the leak i guess

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but first i need to find out how i add it cuz bedenter is red CANNT RESOLVE SYMBOL BEDENTER

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fixed it now mb

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https://pastebin.com/GhxPq1pA

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what about this one?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:54 PM

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No Collections so no leak, unless you are mass jailing and the config grows to a massive size

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:54 PM

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okay there are 2 plugins left

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wanna check em?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:54 PM

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sure

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:54 PM

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thanks

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https://pastebin.com/BVYT1E4s

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eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:58 PM

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No leak

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:58 PM

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can i send u the last one private?

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i know its silly

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but

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idk

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 7:58 PM

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I don;t do dms

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Aghh

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fine

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are u ready

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for the worst one

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:59 PM

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oh no

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:59 PM

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its all in 1 class

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its the most messy one

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 7:59 PM

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the english-german mix is messing with my brain

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 7:59 PM

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XDD

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u guys just witnessed nightmare

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:01 PM

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jovial mason for the worst one

don't feel bad

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everyone here has produced some atrocious code at some point

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:01 PM

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it was my first pl to be fair XD

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but i bet there must be a memory leak

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:02 PM

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sure thats fine, but we are not going to sit here and just make fun of you either lol

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:02 PM

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if there aint a memory leak i am cooked

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cuz i dont know the solution then

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:02 PM

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it would have to be the other plugins you are using, but I thought we identified one already?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:03 PM

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yes but it was a small one

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i guess

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there aint many pleayers who leave while sleeping

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on my server

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:03 PM

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Probably no leak, unless you are respawning multiple Displays in that last plugin

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:03 PM

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thats not good

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now i am out of idea

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:04 PM

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Do as I said, run spark profiler at 1 hour and 5 hours. Note differences in object sizes

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:04 PM

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I will

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but for example

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even if i find it how can i tell why and where it caused the problem?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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the profiler will tell you

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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okay thank you

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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it will guide you to which plugin is causing it

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Thanks i think its a skript of mine

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if its not a plugin

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:06 PM

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you are using skript?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:06 PM

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y...yes?

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pls dont punch me XD

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skript is good for easy things

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:06 PM

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quite possible javascript taking up all your resources

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:06 PM

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Skript = Javascript? huh now i am confused

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:07 PM

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its based off it

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:08 PM

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is it the plugin itself? or skripts which i coded?

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 8:08 PM

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not sure, I didn't look at anything since ElgarL was

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he is pretty decent developer so if he doesn't notice anything glarring probably true then

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:11 PM

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i mean the skript plugin itself

spark lake Jan 14, 2025, 8:11 PM

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Good afternoon

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Is it possible to download the Spigot plugin?

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For VPN server

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Who can help with item display rotation?🙏

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:16 PM

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what specifically about it

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:17 PM

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sullen marlin what specifically about it

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:18 PM

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What's your current code?

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:20 PM

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jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:20 PM

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eternal oxide it will guide you to which plugin is causing it

i did the last spark 2 hours ago is it time to make a new one?

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:21 PM

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yes a couple of hours shoudl be fine, if you are running out of memory in 9 hours

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:21 PM

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its 2gb big how can i show it to u=

spark lake Jan 14, 2025, 8:21 PM

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Is it possible to download the Spigot plugin?

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:22 PM

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or how can i see the difference and show u

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:22 PM

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spark sdhould give you a link

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:22 PM

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its a folder

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heap

rough ibex Jan 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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spark lake Is it possible to download the Spigot plugin?

?

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this is #help-development

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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https://spark.lucko.me/docs/Using-the-viewer

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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quaint mantle

Try right rotation, that will be after the translation

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:23 PM

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So u dont want the spark heapdump

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:25 PM

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sullen marlin Try right rotation, that will be after the translation

Same

spark lake Jan 14, 2025, 8:26 PM

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rough ibex ?

where can I ask?

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:27 PM

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quaint mantle Same

Can you send me a new code?

slim elbow Jan 14, 2025, 8:27 PM

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Hello, I am trying to connect my plugin to grafana loki to publish every log from minecraft console. but Bukkit.getLogger returns the logger for my plugin and not for the whole server, what should I do in order to listen to every log?

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Basically, I want to track every log which I see in minecraft console, not sure how to do that, log4f seems to be a little confusing

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:29 PM

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slim elbow Hello, I am trying to connect my plugin to grafana loki to publish every log fro...

Bukkit.getLogger is the server log, Plugin.getLogger is the plugin log

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:30 PM

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quaint mantle Same

Maybe just don't translate?

quaint mantle Jan 14, 2025, 8:31 PM

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sullen marlin Maybe just don't translate?

I don't know any other methods, this is the second time I'm using item display

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:32 PM

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You can just move the entity, no need to translate

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:32 PM

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sullen marlin You can just move the entity, no need to translate

Do you the creator spigot know the easiest method for some1 who dont know shit how to find a memory leak?

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ingame with a plugin like spark

eternal oxide Jan 14, 2025, 8:33 PM

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/spark profiler open

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if you have a profile running/ran

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:34 PM

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one says spark profiler one says spark heapdump

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i am so confused

slim elbow Jan 14, 2025, 8:34 PM

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sullen marlin Bukkit.getLogger is the server log, Plugin.getLogger is the plugin log

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1276611213769441405/1328824408420257853/image.png?ex=67881bab&is=6786ca2b&hm=c11ad06fcff7bf74e87d7fd4def266f377c356364d52595c9875885c53e2edb7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

Is it the valid way to do that? Passed logger is Bukkit.getLogger(), although it doesn't seem to catch any log at all, is the level messed up? Also, if I make a handler for server's logger, should I also make one for my plugin or it's already included?

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:36 PM

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Are you actually using spigot and not some fork

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:36 PM

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paper..

slim elbow Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Even worse, purpur

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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hh

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huh

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Thank you, next

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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DAMN WHAT

slim elbow Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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😭

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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i am sorry

eternal night Jan 14, 2025, 8:37 PM

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https://tenor.com/1ZeJ.gif

Tenor

jovial mason Jan 14, 2025, 8:48 PM

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some1 mad cuz paper better 😿

blazing ocean Jan 14, 2025, 8:49 PM

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?whereami

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 8:49 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

▶ Play video

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:14 PM

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hi, how can I check what is the amount of item what player puts in inventory

here is my code now, but event.getCursor().getAmount() is returning the amount that player is holding on cursor. I need to check if someone take someting or put, if put how many he put.

    @EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.MONITOR)
    void onInventoryClick(InventoryClickEvent event) {
        InventoryHolder holder = event.getInventory().getHolder();

        if (!(holder instanceof AssortmentChestViewHolder chestHolder) || !(event.getWhoClicked() instanceof Player player)) {
            return;
        }

        ItemStack currentItem = event.getCurrentItem();
        int slot = event.getSlot();

        AssortmentChest assortmentChest = chestHolder.getAssortmentChest();
        Bukkit.broadcastMessage("cursror: " + event.getCursor().getType());

        if (currentItem == null) {
            ItemWeight itemWeight = this.itemWeightProvider.getItemWeight(event.getCursor());
            player.sendMessage("put");
            player.sendMessage(event.getCursor().getAmount() + " ");


            assortmentChest.addContent(slot, itemWeight);

            chestHolder.updateTitle(assortmentChest);
            chestHolder.action(event);

            return;
        }

        Material currentItemType = currentItem.getType();
        if (currentItemType != Material.AIR && event.getCursor().getType() == Material.AIR) {
            player.sendMessage("Take");
            assortmentChest.removeContent(slot);
        }

        chestHolder.updateTitle(assortmentChest);
        chestHolder.action(event);
    }

maybe my logic is wrong and there is simpler way to do that

golden turret Jan 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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is there any gradle plugin like paper's paperweight.userdev, but for spigot?

cinder temple Jan 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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Any good developer here? Who have free time for plugins dev?

eternal night Jan 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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?services

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 9:25 PM

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If you wish to request or offer development/art/building/administration services, please do so at https://www.spigotmc.org/forums/services-recruitment-v2.54/

golden turret Jan 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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golden turret is there any gradle plugin like paper's paperweight.userdev, but for spigot?

one of my plugins relies on nms and i would like the ci to be able to build the .jar

cinder temple Jan 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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Thx bro

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 9:26 PM

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or you can just put all your nms in a maven repo behind credentials

sullen marlin Jan 14, 2025, 9:27 PM

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CI can do anything you can do

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 9:27 PM

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?nms iirc this guide says something about gradle anyway

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 9:27 PM

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https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 9:28 PM

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First of all, you have to run BuildTools

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epic

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:29 PM

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hollow vessel hi, how can I check what is the amount of item what player puts in inventory he...

hm?

golden turret Jan 14, 2025, 9:29 PM

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it is just that i wanted something easy like a compileOnly(spigot1.20.4)

golden turret Jan 14, 2025, 9:29 PM

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undone axle <https://blog.jeff-media.com/nms-use-mojang-mappings-for-your-spigot-plugins/>

looks like this suits my needs, thanks

river oracle Jan 14, 2025, 9:45 PM

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hollow vessel hi, how can I check what is the amount of item what player puts in inventory he...

InventoryHolders on spigot? No you better not. You're doing a deep copy on Tile Entities take a different approach

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?gui

undone axleBOT Jan 14, 2025, 9:45 PM

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https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/a-modern-approach-to-inventory-guis.594005/

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:47 PM

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river oracle InventoryHolders on spigot? No you better not. You're doing a deep copy on Tile ...

okay, but the event will be the same, how can I get the real amount? and how can I detect if player is putting or taking

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:52 PM

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hollow vessel okay, but the event will be the same, how can I get the real amount? and how can...

what is the end goal?

tidal kettle Jan 14, 2025, 9:52 PM

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hey i tried to see if, when the player interact with an item PlayerInteractEvent, it's an eatable item so i use

player.getInventory().getItemInMainHand().getItemMeta().hasFood()

any idea why it don't work?

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:52 PM

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why do you need to know how much they take or put?

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:53 PM

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I need to detect if player is putting something to inventory or take someting. If putting I need the exact amount of the putter item

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:53 PM

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yes but why?

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:53 PM

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wet breach why do you need to know how much they take or put?

for my other stuff around this

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:53 PM

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that doesn't really clarify anything

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there is a reason I am asking because it dictates how you could go about it

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:54 PM

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to calculate "item weight" in a slot

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:54 PM

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the real question is, how soon do you really need to know about it?

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:54 PM

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I made system that some items has their weight

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and I need to calculate the waight in a slot, so I need to know what is an amount of put item

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 9:55 PM

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tidal kettle hey i tried to see if, when the player interact with an item PlayerInteractEvent...

whether an item can be consumed or not is controlled by the consumable data component which spigot has no api for

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:55 PM

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its little weird 😅

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 9:55 PM

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ok, on inventory open of the chest get a snapshot of it

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on close, compare it with your snapshot

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 9:55 PM

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I need to get it after put

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no on close

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:19 PM

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to do what?

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 10:19 PM

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to update lore with item weight

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:20 PM

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idk what this item weight is for or does

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 10:20 PM

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its not vital

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:20 PM

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ok if its not vital why must it be done while the chest is opened?

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 10:21 PM

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to update lore, and calculate this weight. Its not vital to understand what item weight is.

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I just need to check if player put or take items and what is the amount of put item

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with InventoryClickEvent

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:22 PM

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you don't need click event for this

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so instead of on close, when chest opens run a task that checks the inventory of the chest when it was opened to what it is now when checked

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so get a snapshot

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 10:23 PM

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can I get the effect with InventorDragEvent?

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:23 PM

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yes but that isn't reliable since that is thrown when simply moving an item not necessarily placing it

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anyways, its easy to compare snapshots of inventories for changes

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if no change, don't do anything

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if change detected, check the slots

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odds are the item without lore isn't going to stack with one that has lore

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so that means realistically would have to check only the empty slots but idk your specific setup etc

hollow vessel Jan 14, 2025, 10:27 PM

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i will try thanks

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:31 PM

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i propose new law in java clean code

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if you cant name your variables under one single word

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your implementation is too big

mental drum Jan 14, 2025, 10:31 PM

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Im making a AI questing plugin. Shits huge

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 PM

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for me personally this seems to be the case like 80% of the time

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 PM

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mental drum Im making a AI questing plugin. Shits huge

oh HELL NO

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it'll be so bad

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 PM

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mortal hare for me personally this seems to be the case like 80% of the time

well yeah but consider

player
playerName

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that's acceptable

mental drum Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 PM

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Its actually pretty decent atm. Heavy constraints and context needed though

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:32 PM

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or ig playerId

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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rough drift well yeah but consider player playerName

at this point you shouldnt store playerName, playerId if you have player instance

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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ai isn't that great at it tbf

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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mortal hare at this point you shouldnt store `playerName, playerId` if you have `player` ins...

yes, but I don't want to repeat getUniqueId in 17 places

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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just name it name or id

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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what if I have two players

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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as long as the name fits within the 80 character limit its fine xd

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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do you suggest id1 or id2?? 😭

mental drum Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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Its basically open world with endless quest lines with the help of quest generation and context from ai

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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rough drift do you suggest id1 or id2?? 😭

yes

mental drum Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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rough drift ai isn't that great at it tbf

Im not coding in AI lol

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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what about

victimId
killerId

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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could be also

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:33 PM

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mental drum Im not coding in AI lol

yeah, I understood that

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but still

mental drum Jan 14, 2025, 10:34 PM

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Ill pleasently surprise you when its released

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:34 PM

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but i would prefer references instead in this case

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if you need to reference both playerNames, its usually a binary operation algorithm so it should be under separate utility method

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:35 PM

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what if I just need to run a check and pass them somewhere else?

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:35 PM

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example?

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:36 PM

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I can't type codeblocks rn but checking player ids and passing them to say a map

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like checkSomethingA checkSomethingB map.put

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I just store them in a variable because it looks nicer

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:36 PM

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putIfAbsent

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computeIfAbsent

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methods

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i guess

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i just noticed that for my cases where i have two word variables it implies that algorithm could be simplified into smaller parts

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:37 PM

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they don't do the same thing though?

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:37 PM

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mortal hare i just noticed that for my cases where i have two word variables it implies that...

well yeah

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unless you need critical performance that calling a method slows it down, you should already split stuff up

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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rough drift unless you need critical performance that calling a method slows it down, you sh...

looking at you, python

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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exceptions for me would be utility binary operation methods

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like comparison methods

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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inlining 4 method calls saved 10s off a 14s runtime

rough drift Jan 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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mortal hare like comparison methods

yeah makes sense

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:41 PM

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the main rule is me is that variable name shouldnt repeat the same information that type name already does provide

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you shouldnt name UserInformationService variable to userInformationService, imho you should name it like users or information or just service, and the type would implicitly tell you more information about details (if you name service you can lookup to to the type to see what kind of service it is for example, or if you name it information you can lookup to the type that it returns you user information)

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if you have collisions for a name, it implies to me that either:
**a. **you name variable data wrong in that particular context where variable is being used;
**b. **your algorithm is too big and need to be splitted

golden turret Jan 14, 2025, 10:46 PM

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how can i make buildtools ignore the java version?

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:48 PM

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mortal hare you shouldnt name `UserInformationService` variable to `userInformationService`,...

what?!

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that seems very pointless

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you will definitely not have only 1 service

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userService at least

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nobody will understand that, calling it only service

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users is alright tho

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 10:49 PM

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UserInformationService userInformationService = new UserInformationService()

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:49 PM

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urban cloak users is alright tho

but that might imply that its a List or Cache, not a database client wrapper thing

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 10:50 PM

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that's why you just strip all the vowels, srNfrmtnSrvc

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peak C naming

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or do shit like userI9nS5e

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 PM

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oh ye i remember ncurses, mvwaddch

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absolute bullshit

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why leave the a in there at that point

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 PM

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urban cloak you will definitely not have only 1 service

naming it service would imply that class holds only one service class, i agree that it wouldnt make sense if class holds multiple services to name it under service name

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:51 PM

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slender elbow UserInformationService userInformationService = new UserInformationService()

what's the point of naming it the same as the type

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shouldnt type tell you the exact details

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 PM

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if you have UserController class, then calling the infoservice only service might be feasable

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 PM

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you should name your variables according to the context

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 PM

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mortal hare shouldnt type tell you the exact details

noone wants to look at the types all the time

slender elbow Jan 14, 2025, 10:52 PM

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i name my user information service user information service because it's a service for information about users

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👍👍👍👍👍

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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urban cloak noone wants to look at the types all the time

IDE's exist in 2024

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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hover over every second variable in intellij to see the type or press ctrl + B to see the declaration. seems very good!! yeye totally recommend 💯

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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if you want type information just use hungarian notation mess

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LPCSTR

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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i dont want type information, i want function information

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im not gonna call it ClassUserInformationService that is actually pointless

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:53 PM

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type name implies the functionality

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:54 PM

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typename is not visible always tho

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:54 PM

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java is a strictly typed language, its not as if its javascript where type information is hidden

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

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still possibly not on your screen

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

#

#

intellij just tells you the type by just typing the variable

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:55 PM

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ye when typing but not when reading

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https://i.imgur.com/U7btLwH.png i want you to tell me what type CLIENT is or rather what it does

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:56 PM

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it depends on the context of the class

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its not as if the fragment is verbose enough to define its functionality

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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class is enum Platform

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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even if you name it with functional type name

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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mortal hare

youre calling your buttons login...

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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mortal hare java is a strictly typed language, its not as if its javascript where type infor...

so what is val?

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:57 PM

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urban cloak youre calling your buttons login...

is login a method? login(username, password), is it a constant localized string or is it a BUTTON?! WHAAAT

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:58 PM

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urban cloak youre calling your buttons login...

because its part of the method context in another context it could be called something else

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:58 PM

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if your context is a class named Screen then its not straightforward

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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again it depends on the context, if its a different context i would name it something else that suites the context, in this case there's no graphics related fields so its reasonable to call it like this

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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you dont call motorcycle just cycle just cause in the context of a road it might imply that it has a motor

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or washing machine "machine"

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pointless

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 10:59 PM

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thats a different thing, those are different words with different meanings

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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your examples are equal to that if you wanted to compare to generics lol

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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urban cloak or washing machine "machine"

i would actually because washing machne is a machine, if i want to know which kind of machine it is, i look at the type.

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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mortal hare thats a different thing, those are different words with different meanings

login and login button is also very very different

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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mortal hare i would actually because washing machne is a machine, if i want to know which ki...

looking at the type is just another additional extremely pointless type

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:00 PM

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not in Java

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:01 PM

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why?

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:01 PM

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because the type isn't going to magically change

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:01 PM

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not calling a button soething something button just because why not seems very pointless to me

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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wet breach because the type isn't going to magically change

someone reading a codebase for the first time doesnt know what the type originally was, and the type is indeed irrelevant like class interface or what not

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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types have to be declared

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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ye you dont always see the declaration

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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not sure how you wouldn't?

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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50 lines up on your screen???

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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urban cloak https://i.imgur.com/U7btLwH.png i want you to tell me what type CLIENT is or rat...

...

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:02 PM

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I can see like 200 on a screen

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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hover over it?

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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but you spend more time embedding the same type information over and over in variable names than just to check once when you use an IDE

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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i can only see 50

remote swallow Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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ctrl+click it?

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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anyways, IDE's today do a good job telling you where the declarations are at 😛

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:03 PM

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urban cloak hover over every second variable in intellij to see the type or press ctrl + B t...

...

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calling an integer just "variable" because people can just click on it to see that its an integer is the most pointless thing ive ever heard

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:04 PM

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in my opinion, embedding type information is variables clutters your code for no reason, and it makes it less readable, since those variable names tend to be quite long, and usually you can know what variable actually does just by looking at the context where variable is being declared. so there's no need to embed such information and repeat yourself, instead calling it something short helps readability.

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:04 PM

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mortal hare in my opinion, embedding type information is variables clutters your code for no...

or just where it is being used

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if I see an equation I know the types have to be of the number family

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:05 PM

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mortal hare

i dont understand why the method still has button in it tho

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the return type already tells you what it returns 🤷‍♀️

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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    public static LoginScene create(final Stage stage, final UserInformationService service) {
        final InputTextField username = new InputTextField();
        final InputPasswordField password = new InputPasswordField();

        final InputButton register = LoginScene.createRegisterButton();
        final InputButton login = LoginScene.createLoginButton();

        final LoginScene scene = LoginScene.instanciateLoginScene(username, password, register, login);
        login.setOnAction(new LoginNavigationActionHandler(stage, scene, service, username, password));
        register.setOnAction(new NavigationActionHandler(stage, RegisterScene.create(stage, service, scene)));
        return scene;
    }

here's the whole method.

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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why is it so quiet suddenly

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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i dont see it how its not clear from the context what login is inside the method

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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LoginScene is quite clear and the method name even more so

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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yeah the method name is alright

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:06 PM

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LoginScene so we are dealing with UI elements, and its creating them

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:07 PM

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urban cloak i dont understand why the method still has button in it tho

this tho

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and this LoginScene.instanciateLoginScene youre not being very consequent with this idiom

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:07 PM

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type tells you what login refers to, it implies that InputButton is implicit, non-existant LogicInputButton type, but since there's no need for separate class implementation in this context it refers to as login

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:08 PM

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urban cloak and this `LoginScene.instanciateLoginScene` youre not being very consequent with...

that is a static method, to get a LoginScene object

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also known as lazy loading

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:08 PM

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yeah i know that it creates a LoginScene object because its in the LoginScene class

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just call it LoginScene.instanciate if you wanna stay true to that concept

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and LoginScene.createLogin

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:09 PM

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urban cloak just call it `LoginScene.instanciate` if you wanna stay true to that concept

good idea

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i agree on this one

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:09 PM

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well I don't know the class structure so its quite possible there is other objects that could be instantiated in it?

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:09 PM

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YES EXACTLY

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AND THIS is why its pointless

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:09 PM

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urban cloak and `LoginScene.createLogin`

cause one might guess that createLogin probably might eventually return a button cause its in a Scene context

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and that person can look it up in intellij

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makes it good to read 💯

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:10 PM

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wet breach well I don't know the class structure so its quite possible there is other objec...

if there's other object instanciated, its a sign that your implementation has too much responsibility

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:10 PM

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my point was instanciateLoginScene makes sense if that class had other methods for instantiating objects. Therefore we know we are instantiating the LoginScene from that class

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:11 PM

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public static LoginScene create(final Stage stage, final UserInformationService service) {
    final InputTextField username = new InputTextField();
    final InputPasswordField password = new InputPasswordField();
    final InputButton register = LoginScene.createRegister();
    final InputButton login = LoginScene.createLogin();
    final LoginScene scene = LoginScene.instanciate(username, password, register, login);
    login.setOnAction(new LoginNavigationActionHandler(stage, scene, service, username, password));
    register.setOnAction(new NavigationActionHandler(stage, RegisterScene.create(stage, service, scene)));
    return scene;
}
``` woah i love this already 🤩

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:11 PM

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in my case its the only object instanciated, so he's right, i should've named it instanciate() as method

wet breach Jan 14, 2025, 11:11 PM

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mortal hare if there's other object instanciated, its a sign that your implementation has to...

some classes can be pulling double duty where you could instantiated with a static more then one object

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that is all I was saying

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whether or not implementation has too much responsibility is more or less preference

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and not something I am trying to debate

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 PM

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wet breach whether or not implementation has too much responsibility is more or less prefer...

https://tenor.com/view/idk-shrug-tarryn-gif-22143231

Tenor

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:12 PM

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public static LoginScene create(final Stage stage, final UserInformationService service) {
    final InputTextField usernameField = new InputTextField();
    final InputPasswordField passwordField = new InputPasswordField();
    final InputButton registerButton = LoginScene.createRegisterButton();
    final InputButton loginButton = LoginScene.createLoginButton();
    final LoginScene scene = LoginScene.instanciate(usernameField passwordField, registerButton, loginButton);
    login.setOnAction(new LoginNavigationActionHandler(stage, scene, informationService, usernameField, passwordField));
    register.setOnAction(new NavigationActionHandler(stage, RegisterScene.create(stage, informationService, scene)));
    return scene;
}
``` tell me whats more readable

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:13 PM

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my idiom is that the less words i see and the more i depend on the context the easier for is to read for me, verbosity adds complexity for me. also if class name changes, i dont need to change my variable names too, since they depend on the context and not on the specifics of data

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:14 PM

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public static LoginScene create(final Stage stage, final UserInformationService service) {
    final InputTextField usernameField = new InputTextField();
    final InputPasswordField passwordField = new InputPasswordField();

    final InputButton registerButton = LoginScene.createRegisterButton();
    final InputButton loginButton = LoginScene.createLoginButton();

    final LoginScene scene = LoginScene.instanciate(usernameField passwordField, registerButton, loginButton);
    login.setOnAction(new LoginNavigationActionHandler(stage, scene, informationService, usernameField, passwordField));
    register.setOnAction(new NavigationActionHandler(stage, RegisterScene.create(stage, informationService, scene)));
    return scene;
}

#

you could even make it more readable by removing even pointlesser final keywords

public static LoginScene create(Stage stage, UserInformationService service) {
    InputTextField usernameField = new InputTextField();
    InputPasswordField passwordField = new InputPasswordField();

    InputButton registerButton = LoginScene.createRegisterButton();
    InputButton loginButton = LoginScene.createLoginButton();

    LoginScene scene = LoginScene.instanciate(usernameField passwordField, registerButton, loginButton);
    login.setOnAction(new LoginNavigationActionHandler(stage, scene, informationService, usernameField, passwordField));
    register.setOnAction(new NavigationActionHandler(stage, RegisterScene.create(stage, informationService, scene)));
    return scene;
}

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:18 PM

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i use final everywhere since then i could be guaranteed that the variable is not surprisingly being mutated somewhere else

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prevents bugs

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:18 PM

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hmmm

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doesnt your IDE tell you that

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and isnt that violating a java code principle

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:18 PM

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well final imposes compile time errors

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:19 PM

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urban cloak and isnt that violating a java code principle

that you should not expose variables publicly? instead write getters and setters

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:19 PM

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wdym

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:21 PM

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idk how a variable should be accidentally mutated

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:21 PM

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what i mean by mutation is that it wouldnt mutate the variable deep down in the function where i would miss that due to error

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:21 PM

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were not writing python

mortal hare Jan 14, 2025, 11:21 PM

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not that it should be mutated outside method

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if i see a field being declared final i can be sure that at the end of the function, that variable will stay the same

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unless it wasnt intialized in the first place (in that case it would be null)

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meanwhile if i didnt declare it as final, i have to use my dumb monkey brain to manually check with ide that the variable is safe to reference in the way i want and that it hold what i expect to

urban cloak Jan 14, 2025, 11:23 PM

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idk how that should happen by accident but okay