help-development

[slender elbow]

BlockData = minecraft's block state; direction, facing, powered, half/side, etc

BlockState = minecraft's block entity data, a chest's inventory contents for example

or a sign's text

[chrome beacon]

^^ basically it's NBT tag

[glossy laurel]

right

why does

createEntity

require a location

[slender elbow]

because

[blazing ocean]

Entity#getLocation be like

[slender elbow]

you are creating an Entity, it just isn't placed in the world yet

[eternal night]

It's a bit of a funny API

[slender elbow]

very much

[worthy yarrow]

In that case the entity would be noted by the world right? But without a location it can’t be considered a physical entity can it?

[jagged quail]

Who pinged

[kind hatch]

I think there was talk about virtual entities which would be exactly that.

[worthy yarrow]

Hmm I wasn’t here for that

[chrome beacon]

This random guy looking for devs @jagged quail

[worthy yarrow]

Would virtual entities in this case even make sense? I mean we’ve already got display entities so

[blazing ocean]

@jagged quail you.

[jagged quail]

@blazing ocean did you get the laptop for Christmas

[blazing ocean]

yes

[jagged quail]

What os do you have on it

[blazing ocean]

currently still W11 since I don't have a USB here

will install arch later

[jagged quail]

Ew

[blazing ocean]

yea W11 is ew

[prime reef]

how does that interact with the library plugin itself actually running?

[marsh hawk]

Is smooth teleportation possible? In this case:

• I have an entity walking around
• Player is the entity that should get teleported to the entity location
• Tick delay is fine, so no exact synchronozation

The question Im having is more like, is it possible to do teleports in a way, that it doesnt bug around when done frequently (like you can feel you get teleported)? Ideally, the same as it would feel as when e.g "walking". I could imagine that you would perhaps do it in a bunch of steps, so its more fluent, however, that would take too many ticks. So how does mc walking work? Isnt that also just teleports? Why doesnt that bug around when moving very fast?

[lilac dagger]

Are you trying to link to the library or modify the library itself?

If you link to it the reshading will change the imports to whatever the library you're using uses

[glossy laurel]

I'm using compassMeta.setLodestone(pointTo); to set the location for a compass, but then the compass becomes enchanted and named "Lodestone compass". Can I somehow make it not modify itself?

[lilac dagger]

I don't think teleporting a player is the way to go, any ping issue would cause issues, I think it's best if you can tp the entity instead

[radiant plaza]

Can someone give me a list of plugins for Lobby on minecraft server?

[hybrid spoke]

#help-server

[radiant plaza]

?

[remote swallow]

uh @blazing ocean ???

[blazing ocean]

what

[blazing ocean]

what "???"

[chrome beacon]

pfp I assume

[blazing ocean]

probably

[remote swallow]

rad stop putting alts in spigot

[blazing ocean]

no u

[eternal night]

Wait epic is a rad alt

Wtf

[lost matrix]

[remote swallow]

nuhuh

[lost matrix]

I see this as evidence, so its confirmed. epic == rad

[eternal night]

[blazing ocean]

well fuck

they got us

[prime reef]

I'm trying to use the library I wrote, yeah. I have the shade plugin set to relocate Jackson 2.15.1 to a separate package, and I can get the plugin to compile against that shaded version, but then the plugin itself breaks because it does a lot of reflection and when it locates a subclass of a Jackson (de)serializer, the plugin class loader from Spigot loses its fucking mind

[blazing ocean]

me*

[blazing ocean]

shut up #163

[eternal night]

What do you meaaaan 163

[remote swallow]

shut up #8

[blazing ocean]

so clueless

[blazing ocean]

ok #76

[kind hatch]

Can't believe rad has over 163 alts. :3
Glad I'm not one of them.
-# Sent from #21

[lost matrix]

Wait... am i a rad alt?

[blazing ocean]

yes, #87

[lost matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/not-sure-hmm-thinking-gif-5730421

[prime reef]

We all are, really.

[blazing ocean]

exactly #26485

[remote swallow]

is 0 the real rad and then 1-10 are the sub controllers

[blazing ocean]

yes

[remote swallow]

whos the real rad

[prime reef]

I read one of those "existential dread" type horror stories once where we're basically the same person living out infinite different lifetimes, so technically, we could all be rad alts.

[blazing ocean]

wdym "could"

we are.

smile i saw that

what was that

[lost matrix]

Only one way to handle being a rad alt

[blazing ocean]

😭

maybe the real rad was the friends we made along the way

[kind hatch]

Eh, being an alt isn't so bad.
I don't have to worry about anything since I can be deleted at anytime.

[blazing ocean]

fuck you deletes you

maybe md_5 is another alt

it's sha-1's alt

[remote swallow]

whats choco

[blazing ocean]

vanilla's alt aka dinnerbone

[echo basalt]

oo maybe it is true

[blazing ocean]

mhm mhm

[hybrid spoke]

i would just make the map myself, set a spawn in there, cancel the playermoveevent until he sent the code in chat

no like installing mvcore, voidgen, generating the world via command and then use that world

the whole world gen fuckery just adds unnecessary complexity just to make the world once

[echo basalt]

nah fuck running commands

that's cursed

[hybrid spoke]

rather have a setspawn system which then gives the player an unverified state until he chats your code. after that set him to verified

[blazing ocean]

you know you can just use an empty chunk generator and biome provider right

[hybrid spoke]

for what exactly

to make an empty world all over again?

[blazing ocean]

creating a void world?

[hybrid spoke]

not everything has to be made programmatically

especially not something you would only run once and can be done way simpler

[inner mulch]

i have a method with depending on the abstraction can return something or nothing, is there a way to abstract this well, or should i just return null when there is nothing and something if there is?

[hybrid spoke]

i didnt quite understand the first part of your message, but for the latter there is Optional which you can use

[inner mulch]

i have an interface some impl return something some dont when put into a method

it isnt really optional as some have a 100% chance of not returning something

[hybrid spoke]

either use optional or you have to think of a better design

if the return is not reliable there is probably a better design choice

[inner mulch]

im sending messages in between my servers, some might get a response, some simply inform

i have a send method

im not sure how make this better i could add another method, but that would come with problems

[hybrid spoke]

i would just always send a response

[inner mulch]

i tested this and it can slow it down 10x

when sending 1.000.000 messages which takes 3000ms, when waiting for an ack it results in 53000ms

:(

[hybrid spoke]

so then check if a response was given, if not just craft one and return it? and if its just a "RECEIVED"

[inner mulch]

okay

[hybrid spoke]

but by that your api is consistent

and your response could have a response code and the actual response wrapped in an Optional, so you can always check if an actual response was given

class Response {
  ResponseCode responseCode;
  Optional<ResponseBody> responseBodyOptional;
}

something like that

[inner mulch]

okay, thank you, im gonna apply the changes now

[fresh mesa]

public static ItemStack getSkull(String url) {
        ItemStack head = new ItemStack(Material.PLAYER_HEAD);
        if (url.isEmpty()) {
            return head;
        }

        SkullMeta headMeta = (SkullMeta) head.getItemMeta();
        GameProfile profile = new GameProfile(UUID.randomUUID(), "null");
        profile.getProperties().put("textures", new Property("textures", url));
        Field profileField;
        try {
            profileField = headMeta.getClass().getDeclaredField("profile");
            profileField.setAccessible(true);
            profileField.set(headMeta, profile);
        } catch (NoSuchFieldException | IllegalArgumentException | IllegalAccessException event) {

        }
        head.setItemMeta(headMeta);
        return head;
    }

I don't why It's not working and i want this custom head texture:
https://minecraft-heads.com/player-heads/head/47397-lucky-block

??

[civic sluice]

Just use the API that is present.

[fresh mesa]

Which API?

[chrome beacon]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/creating-custom-heads-in-spigot-1-18-1/

[civic sluice]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/inventory/meta/SkullMeta.html#setOwnerProfile(org.bukkit.profile.PlayerProfile)

[fresh mesa]

Thank you so much, @chrome beacon and @civic sluice! I really appreciate all of your help. ❤️

[mellow gulch]

Dade Robinson is spamming up the Jira, not sure if this is allowed behavior

[blazing ocean]

just wait for md to wake up and ban em

[stiff violet]

whats the best resource to learn plugin development?

[neon storm]

Same for one of my ancient jira tickets.

Def not allowed

[mellow gulch]

ok, yeah, it's a really old ticket that he's doing it to here also

[spiral light]

Almost 30 mails so far ....

[river oracle]

Kids these days

Back when I was a young kid I'd collect cards or something

[spiral light]

👌😅

[mellow gulch]

he's probably just angry that he's alone on christmas

[inner mulch]

i'd say you should learn java first

once you got the basics, plugins are gonna be easy

[mellow gulch]

also, after you learn java the spigot javadocs are incredibly useful

[neon storm]

Just do stuff that interest you, I would say

[river oracle]

^ this is the best advice but no one here is gonna really hold your hand don't expect that.

[lilac dagger]

it sounds like a poor implementation then, you shouldn't use reflections when working with anything of this kind, the jackson api should be enough

[eternal oxide]

@worldly ingot @young knoll There is a porn spam bot on jira

[worldly ingot]

Yeah md's aware now

[late sonnet]

Dade?

[eternal oxide]

yep

[rancid mauve]

why associate yourself with that behaviour

[blazing ocean]

no they didn't

they linked lynx' github lmfao

[rancid mauve]

ah

figured

[eternal oxide]

So Lynx is the guilty party!

[rancid mauve]

xD

I never look at the Jira usually, wouldn't have even known if it wasn't posted in here

[stiff violet]

ill be real im a novice hobby programmer - currently learning the ropes through javascript and python. think im fairly confident on key concepts i just currently dont know the java translation if that makes sense? the plugin im intending to create is very (seemingly) simple, so im thinking i could use it as a project to work towards to help me learn java

just not sure how to start plugin development specifically, like the meta way of starting in 2024 (or 2025) if that makes sense :p

[mellow gulch]

look into strong typed languages and faniliarize yourself with that, it's going to be one of the bigger things to get used to when switching over from python/javascript to java

[stiff violet]

ive done a fair bit with typescript if thats what u mean

[mellow gulch]

ok, yeah, you shouldn't be unfamiiar with the concept then

the hurdles are mostly just going to be about API/library details and Java syntax specifics then.

[stiff violet]

Yeah thats what im thinking, like i say i think i can accomplish what i have in mind for a plugin idea as its relatively simple, like it just sends a player message upon player executing a command and logs a random number generated within the player message string to db on the backend - im just wondering where to start

[neon storm]

Yes, just start with it. That's how you learn basically anything. There's a guide for a simple plugin in the spigot website, also one in the paper website which says about the same thing.

I think that plugin development is something you can start with when starting Java, I did the same. Just follow the guide and use a IDE, like intellij

[mellow gulch]

Eclipse is another good IDE, I like how it lets you add custom javadocs so you can have the info right there in your ide

[chrome beacon]

Intellij does have that feature as well

[mellow gulch]

oh nice, im more familiar with eclipse and didn't know that, but at any rate, it's a very good feature when learning a new library

[chrome beacon]

One feature that Intellij does not have is the ability to compile broken code

By simply replacing methods with runtime errors

[mellow gulch]

sounds fun

[eternal oxide]

I like Eclipse as it can have multiple projects open in a single workspace

and its light weight

[mellow gulch]

yeah i like that about it too

[eternal oxide]

probably the only two features over IJ

[lilac dagger]

the multiple projects in a single window was really nice

altho intellij's multiple windows feature is not the hardest to get used to either

[mellow gulch]

can it let you follow methods and classes across projects?

(like hyperlinks)

[chrome beacon]

There is an official plugin for that now though it's still w.i.p and a bit limited

[lilac dagger]

as far as i know no

[mellow gulch]

i see.

[lilac dagger]

there's the built in decompiler that you can use to follow code in other projects

altho it will look a bit different

[prime reef]

jackson API doesn't do plugin setup...

jackson is a serialization/deserialization library, is it not?

the library I wrote is specifically designed to automate annoying plugin tasks and use Jackson to automatically read configs and generate new ones where necessary lol

the thing is, in the plugin I'm using that references Jackson, there are places where I want to define custom Jackson serializers for certain structs

[lilac dagger]

but i don't see where the reflections are needed

[tidal kettle]

hey do you think you can create world async or at least don't have a BIG lag when creating a world?

[prime reef]

how else do you check annotations

this has nothing to do with serialization

just so we're on the same page :p

[blazing ocean]

You cannot

[eternal oxide]

yes its possible, but you need a fixed spawn and don't keep spawn in memory

[tidal kettle]

lol thx x)

[blazing ocean]

tho you can provide a fixed spawn location and disable keeping the spawn in memory, use an empty biome provider and chunk generator ^

[eternal oxide]

NOT async though

[tidal kettle]

for the spawn in memeory i use this :

@EventHandler(priority= EventPriority.HIGHEST)
    public void worldInit(org.bukkit.event.world.WorldInitEvent e){
        e.getWorld().setKeepSpawnInMemory(false);
    }

[lilac dagger]

can i see the code?

[tidal kettle]

but what is fixed spawnn and empty biome provider and chunk generator

[prime reef]

you might be better off just looking at it on github, it's not just a snippet

fair warning

it's pretty old code i wrote in uni, so there's places where it's just ???

Actually here's the simplest use case

@Preload
public class AbilityFromStringDeserializer extends FromStringDeserializer<Ability> {
    protected AbilityFromStringDeserializer() {
        super(Ability.class);
    }

    @Override
    protected Ability _deserialize(String s, DeserializationContext deserializationContext) throws IOException {
        return AbilityManager.getAbility(s);
    }
}```

FromStringDeserializer is a Jackson class

the @Preload annotation just refers to the setup phase, basically something that needs to be loaded before doing any config injection (because it's a serializer)

Now this part isn't the problem, the problem is actually the import

actually hang on - this one is fine

[lilac dagger]

the import is still not reflection

[prime reef]

right

Sorry I should clarify

[lilac dagger]

you can use the addon method i said in the begining

[prime reef]

wait no

let me finish

actually, I think I might know what the problem could be

There's a section where, during init, the library attempts to instantiate that serializer

There's some security manager bullshit that Java does that doesn't like that, though

[lilac dagger]

is there a security manager still in java?

[prime reef]

I don't know the details because I'm not an expert on Java

[chrome beacon]

The Security Manager is getting removed

[prime reef]

yeah it's deprecated

This isn't the exception I get btw

[lilac dagger]

but this should be fine for most classes

[prime reef]

Yeah I don't know what the hell breaks when I do a relocate

It worked fine with shaded code back in like 1.19

[lilac dagger]

i think it's when accessing classes from a different jar maybe?

[prime reef]

That was what I was thinking happened

[lilac dagger]

that seems a bit unsafe

[prime reef]

It's just weird because like...all this shit worked totally fine before

I can't test it without the relocate because minecraft (and by extension spigot) is using an outdated version of Jackson lol

And I can't downgrade server versions because I'm using 1.20/1.21 stuff :')

Hang on let me see what happens if I just wantonly set external to true when trying to load the class

[lilac dagger]

hmm, i thought spigot/minecraft uses gson

[prime reef]

they do (or did? or maybe it's guava), but for some reason jackson is now in the bundled libraries for spigot 1.21.3

I have no idea what they use it for

[chrome beacon]

I believe it's Mojang uses both gson and jackson in their code

[prime reef]

Weirdly enough I could probably contact someone at Mojang through work

But that'd be a really specific and weird question lmao

[chrome beacon]

Or it's a transitive

[lilac dagger]

i think it's transitive

[prime reef]

I'm inclined to say transitive because the version is actually ancient

You don't deliberately add ancient libraries for new features. normally.

so maybe they're using a new library that in turn hasn't had a dependency update in years lol

[lilac dagger]

the spigot api shouldn't have it exposed tho

[prime reef]

it's not exposed, I was already using Jackson

been using it for years

or rather I did use it for years, I've been doing nothing but C++ for about 3 years now

spigot just loads it at runtime

...i wonder what would happen if i just removed it

[lilac dagger]

what i mean is you should be able to use your library without minecraft messing it up if you just depend on spigot api

[prime reef]

yeah but why would i do that

this is a freaky edge case lol

[lilac dagger]

i gave up on json simple because it was in craftbukkit

it can be removed at any point in the future

there's a simpler solution to your problems

[prime reef]

probably

i'm not using spigot's config API though

unless they've improved it since 2021

was kind of awful for years tbh

[lilac dagger]

yaml?

[prime reef]

i also already have my own config system

format doesn't matter

it's the methods/ease of use

[lilac dagger]

it's not bad for user files

[prime reef]

ehh

it's not very good at handling proper serialization/deserialization

the reason I turned away from it in the first place is because I have a fair amount of use cases that were, at the time, too complex for it

i don't remember the details because it's been more than 3 years, you'd have to give me some time to remember why I had to use an external library

[lilac dagger]

i made a cool serializer for the yaml and it can be made to look good

it depends how much effort you're willing to put in

anyway

[prime reef]

right now my shit works by:

1. add field to class
   1a. make a serializer/deserializer if needed
2. annotate field
3. it now appears in the config file you specified

takes like 3 seconds

ig there are a few things I could try

[lilac dagger]

it should work

it doesn't seem to require reflections, just a way to access the library to add a custom serializer

[prime reef]

well, again, the issue was that the class loader had a stroke when i tried to initialize a class that depended on something from the shaded files

now that you mention it I think the reflection is probably orthogonal anyway

so yeah fair point

thanks for putting up with me here, I've been baffled on this for a couple hours lmao

[lilac dagger]

no problem, was of more help to me

[prime reef]

i'm a C++ dev, we just "shade" everything all the time or force you to include a .dll. there is no compromise

[mellow gulch]

lol first time i ever thought about static libs as shading. cool

[prime reef]

tbh i was thinking a little simpler LMAO include directives are basically just force shading

[mellow gulch]

oh that too, lol

[prime reef]

all c++ clang programs compile to one really long file, basically

[mellow gulch]

clang doesn't make obj files?

im one of those plebs that uses visual studio for c++

[rugged nova]

I can use getDirection() or getYaw() to get the orientation of the face, but how to get the orientation of the player's body is difficult to realize with the current API?

[sullen marlin]

getLocation().getYaw()?

what's difficult about that?

[rugged nova]

getLocation().getYaw() is for overall body orientation, it does not retrieve torso orientation.

[sullen marlin]

Sorry not sure I'd have to look

I do seem to remember some sort of headyaw method somewhere but maybe not in the api

[young knoll]

Isn’t that getEyeLocation().getYaw()

[mellow gulch]

for body i think you can use Entity.getPose() and if the player's is gliding, or swimming then their body's yaw is their head yaw. But when they are just standig there or crouching, im pretty sure that the orientation of the body is clientside only, and that's why players look like their heads are on backwards sometimes... but i could be remembering wrongly

[hasty gyro]

Hello guys, I'm working on a plugin to block certain commands from being executed, but can't get auto complete to work this is what I have tried: java if (args.length == 2 && args[0].equalsIgnoreCase("add")) { CommandMap commandMap = Bukkit.getServer().getCommandMap(); return commandMap.getKnownCommands().keySet().stream() .filter(cmd -> !blockedCommands.contains(cmd.toLowerCase())) .collect(Collectors.toList()); }

trying to get all registered commands on the server like also with specific args.

[mellow gulch]

why not use the permissions system?

[hasty gyro]

So its against forceop exploits.

not really something with permissions

[mellow gulch]

just make a plugin that auto bans ops

that's what my plugin on my personal server does

[hasty gyro]

nah also things like gamerule randomtickspeed need to be blocked as it can crash your server so easily

and keep crashing it when it starts

[mellow gulch]

nvm, i see what you're saying now

but i still think perms and disallowing op is a better option than trying to get a list of commands and stopping them

pretty sure commands don't have to be registered either, so what you're trying to do might not work with every plugin

[hasty gyro]

Yeah I know, that was the first thing I did when I started my server.
I had only problems with blocking randomtickspeed as gamerule is only one permission

[hasty gyro]

That's correct but it's better than nothing. It will also allow unregistered commands tho.

[mellow gulch]

you could write your own gamerule command, commands have namespaces, and then in your perms you can give permission to use your version of the command

that way you don't have to give the perm node that gives unwanted things in addition

[hasty gyro]

Yeah, but that will just make it more difficult than it needs to be.

This is a really easy way to patch these things

[mellow gulch]

not really, it's just writing a command that looks at the params and verifies that you wanna allow them, then forwards to https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/World.html#setGameRule(org.bukkit.GameRule,T)
if you're alright with the player doing the thing they tried to do

i think this is an easier approach, but you do you

[young knoll]

You could also just disable the gamerule command

You generally don’t need to use it

[mellow gulch]

could also look into PlayerCommandPreprocessEvent

might help you

[hasty gyro]

The system is already running and uploaded to spigotmc

[hasty gyro]

Will check it out

[indigo orchid]

Is it possible to add multiple world borders in one world

[lost matrix]

That doesnt sound useful as only the most inner one would ever be seen, since you cant move past it.

[indigo orchid]

It’s for skyblock islands

[lost matrix]

So you want a per-player WorldBorder?

[indigo orchid]

I want each island plot to have its own border

Yeah pre much

[lost matrix]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/entity/Player.html#setWorldBorder(org.bukkit.WorldBorder)

when a player enters an island -> get WB from island -> call player.setWorldBorder(wb)

[indigo orchid]

It only sets one world borders per world

Hmm ig i can try that

[lost matrix]

An island creates its own WB using Server.createWorldBorder()

[indigo orchid]

Yeah i tried that, it only made a border for one island. The other islands didn’t have one and when a player tpd he insta died (bc being outside of border is instant death) but after turning it off too there was no border on their island only the first island created

I didn’t try it per “player” but I’m assuming you just mean for every island owner so I’m not sure it’ll work

[lost matrix]

You need to change the border when a player changes islands of course...

[indigo orchid]

But if i have 100 people online at once

Who have their own island

I don’t want the border to just be on one island

[lost matrix]

doesnt matter

Each player has its own border

[indigo orchid]

Ahh okay i can try that

Thanks a lot

[silver robin]

is it possible to defer player getting on the server while fetching some data from external database for example? i want to first load the player's stats and then let him play. maybe AsyncPlayerPreLoginEvent?

[ivory sleet]

should work fine

[lost matrix]

yes exactly that

[silver robin]

ah that's nice ty
so the player will "officially join" after the event handler finishes on some non-main thread?

[ivory sleet]

it runs not on server thread and yea

[silver robin]

fantastic

tyvm

[ivory sleet]

ye no worries, have fun multithreading

[wet breach]

you can make a player wait at the prelogin stage for approximately 15 minutes.

15 minutes because that is typically what desktop OS's have the TCP timeout set at when not receiving data

not that I recommend making players wait that long though lmao

personally I like to allow players to connect to the lobby and allow the player to somewhat do something while data loads though

[lost matrix]

if(playerName.equals("frostalf") {
  Thread.sleep(...);
}

[ivory sleet]

I think sleeping one thread isnt enough smile, we need greater measures!

[wet breach]

lol

[lost matrix]

System.exit(-1)

[ivory sleet]

[young knoll]

15 minutes won’t work

The client gives up after 30 seconds

[lost matrix]

Not if you coach it properly

[silver robin]

sounds like it's os-dependent

but from experience I feel like minecraft would just kill the connection with "Timed out"

[slender elbow]

the game closes the socket after 30 seconds of not receiving any payload, and the client isn't at a stage where you can send a random packet to stall them anyway

hold on a second, i've seen this scenario being played before 🤔

[faint meadow]

I'm confused, how can I create a pixel art minigame on my server, in which the game is played in pairs, the idea is that if a player places a block only that player can break it within a time limit.

[mellow gulch]

put metadata on the block including the player's uuid and a timestamp

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/bukkit/org/bukkit/metadata/Metadatable.html

compare in the break event

[inner mulch]

can you add data to every block now?

to me it seems like metadatable is only limited to certain blocks

[mellow gulch]

it's to block and blockstate

block is the coordinate in the world basically

if you move the block with a piston the metadata wont move

[young knoll]

It’s not persistent though

[mellow gulch]

yeah that too

[young knoll]

It will also leak if you don’t remove it properly

[mellow gulch]

yep

[inner mulch]

hmm okay

i didnt know that

[slender elbow]

it's a half assed api that isn't even finished

[inner mulch]

:(

[slender elbow]

like, it's better and easier if you just keep track of stuff in a Map yourself

[mellow gulch]

i think it's pretty useful for minigames in its current state though

[inner mulch]

did you block me?

[young knoll]

Are you volunteering?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017515898870956154.gif?size=48&name=pepe_laugh&quality=lossless

[ancient plank]

this is a thing? time to go change some things... server I work on just kicks people and tells em to relog if their stuff isn't loaded

[young knoll]

It’s 30 seconds

[ancient plank]

tbf it only takes a couple seconds for our data to be fetched

deferring is always better than kicking imo

[young knoll]

Well yeah 30 seconds should be plenty

Unless your database is on the moon

[buoyant viper]

this should be a thing

if the servers were on the moon, could it still be considered the cloud?

or would it be the satellite ...

[nova notch]

have fun waiting 1.28 seconds every time something is updated

[hybrid spoke]

just have good caching

[nova notch]

just use quantum teleportation 👍

[hybrid spoke]

teleport the server to earth, query data, teleport the server back?

im just waiting for micro dbs which i can implant into my brain

[vast panther]

"[Vulcan] incompatible spigot fork detected. Please contact the developer of you spigot forkand tell them to fix this!Your server tps Is being read 0 because they changed thing unnecessary"

Anyone help me with this

Error

[hybrid spoke]

Please contact the developer of you spigot forkand tell them to fix this!

[vast panther]

??

Bruh

[quaint mantle]

?whereami

[undone axle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864180468680360027/944415049462714469/whereami.mp4

[quaint mantle]

Anywho

                player.sendMessage(Util.sendMessage(plugin.getConfig().getString("prefix.banker" + " messages.transaction-coins-640-successful")));

This seems to be returning an error, to be exact a null error
https://paste.md-5.net/iboqojebiz.bash
Any thoughts?

[summer scroll]

I'm pretty sure it's returning null

[quaint mantle]

Why though?

[summer scroll]

Because it's invalid path

Path prefix.banker messages.transaction-coins-640-successful doesn't have a value

[quaint mantle]

🤔

[summer scroll]

You need to get both string, so:

String prefix = config.getString("prefix.banker");
String otherMessage = config.getString("other.messages.path");

player.sendMessage(color(prefix + otherMessage))

I'm guessing that's what you meant to do.

[quaint mantle]

Wait, so, if it's prefix.banker, isn't the yaml supposed to be formatted like this?

prefix:
banker:

[summer scroll]

# Path: prefix.banker

prefix:
  banker: "prefix"

[quaint mantle]

So, you are supposed to use indentation?

Hmm, did that as well

[summer scroll]

I'm not sure if the indentation is mandatory but without indentation it's gonna be confusing as hell.

Your whole path is prefix.banker messages.transaction-coins-640-successful

You need to get the string from the config twice.

[quaint mantle]

What if there are multiple?

[summer scroll]

What do you mean multiple?

[quaint mantle]

Oh, wait, I got it

[summer scroll]

Yeah yeah, it's kinda hard to explain xd.

[quaint mantle]

multiple paths?

[summer scroll]

If you want to get multiple values, then you need to call multiple getString method

[quaint mantle]

Got it

[fast jasper]

I have a /give command I made a while ago that has an item that gives a written book to a player. is there a way to use either item stacks and/or "setItem" method to give a book using the same meta data? recreating it from scratch using the API would take a while, so is it at all possible to use the existing data present within the /give command? (the part of the command to the right of the item ID is specified wraped in square brackets)

[frigid depot]

is there a plugin/api i can use that allows me to "share" data between a bukkit player and a bungeecord player

[upper hazel]

does anyone know what plugin can be used to fix archeitectural errors in code (inteliji ultimate)?

[blazing ocean]

none

[sullen marlin]

What errors

[pure dagger]

@blazing ocean

what does it even mean primitive, in python str is primitive, i dont get it

[blazing ocean]

a primitive is a type not represented by a class

[pure dagger]

what is class

wait.

is array primitive

or what is it actually

i guess its not a type or nothing

its just more primitives

[hazy parrot]

Arrays are not primitives in java

[pure dagger]

public class int {
    
    private final int int;
    
    public int(int int) {
        this.int = int;
    }
    
    public int() {
        return this.int;
    }
}

[blazing ocean]

literally Integer

and stop calling everything int

[pure dagger]

but its int

[blazing ocean]

dude has never heard of Integer.java

[pure dagger]

thats int.java

[blazing ocean]

....

[shadow night]

and that's also not possible kek

[blazing ocean]

yea

[shadow night]

int is a reserved keyword

[pure dagger]

blip blap

blip

👽

[blazing ocean]

???

[nova notch]

what the fuck is this

[remote swallow]

You just got called an alien

[blazing ocean]

code of somebody who does not know java

[nova notch]

mf doesn't know about records

my beloved :D

[blazing ocean]

mf doesn't know about java.lang.Integer

[nova notch]

yeah ignoring that

[pure dagger]

how to make maps

and display images in maps

[chrome beacon]

Make a MapRenderer and add it to the MapView

[acoustic pendant]

Does someone know why can't I use the github library if I have it like this?

[pure dagger]

wont it change?

[late sonnet]

you sure add this correctly?
you can check another versions if maybe that is the issue https://jitpack.io/#Tigeax/CustomWings

[pure dagger]

i mean is it permanent?

[acoustic pendant]

Yeah, that was the problem, is solved already

[jovial mason]

        <dependency>
            <groupId>me.clip</groupId>
            <artifactId>placeholderapi</artifactId>
            <version>2.11.1</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>
    </dependencies>
``` any1 knows the right groupId?

Dependency 'me. clip:placeholderapi:2.11.1' not found

[remote swallow]

did you add the repo

[jovial mason]

No i never added a dependency

hmm

[remote swallow]

you need to add the repo and then the dependency

https://wiki.placeholderapi.com/developers/using-placeholderapi/

[jovial mason]

Like this ?

  <repositories>
        <repository>
            <id>papermc-repo</id>
            <url>https://repo.papermc.io/repository/maven-public/</url>
        </repository>
        <repository>
            <id>sonatype</id>
            <url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/</url>
        </repository>
        <repository>
            <id>placeholderapi</id>
            <url>https://repo.extendedclip.com/content/repositories/placeholderapi/</url>
        </repository>
    </repositories>

[remote swallow]

no

add the repo specified here then the dependency

[jovial mason]

    <repositories>
        <repository>
            <id>papermc-repo</id>
            <url>https://repo.papermc.io/repository/maven-public/</url>
        </repository>
        <repository>
            <id>sonatype</id>
            <url>https://oss.sonatype.org/content/groups/public/</url>
        </repository>
        <repository>
            <id>placeholderapi</id>
            <url>https://repo.extendedclip.com/releases/</url>
        </repository>
    </repositories>

    <dependencies>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>io.papermc.paper</groupId>
            <artifactId>paper-api</artifactId>
            <version>1.21.3-R0.1-SNAPSHOT</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>
        <dependency>
            <groupId>me.clip</groupId>
            <artifactId>placeholderapi</artifactId>
            <version>2.11.6</version>
            <scope>provided</scope>
        </dependency>
    </dependencies>

[remote swallow]

yes

[jovial mason]

still doesnt work

[remote swallow]

reload maven

[jovial mason]

ah okay

tysm

[spare ruin]

Hello, is there a way to spawn falling block entities without removing the original block at its position, and without the falling block’s position being rounded to integer ? I’m using world#spawnFallingBlock, but I’m facing these two issues. I tried using world#spawnEntity, but it seems like FallingBlock can’t set its blockData.

[sonic goblet]

Can’t you spawnFallingBlock with the BlockData in the constructor?

[eternal oxide]

use teh spawn method which takes a Consumer

[worldly ingot]

FallingBlock doesn't have a method to change its BlockData

You're forced to use spawnFallingBlock(), which yes, does center the block coordinates. NMS accepts a BlockPosition and centers it

It doesn't have to because it just passes the coordinates as centered doubles, but at least currently it just takes a BP

[spare ruin]

I see, thanks.

[marsh hawk]

Is there any way to make entities visible through walls without glow?

[hybrid spoke]

not serverside i suppose

[inner mulch]

whats wrong with glow tho?

[hybrid spoke]

you could try to go the hacky way and scale the entity down and put it in its place so it looks like its there

but thats something you dont really want to do

[marsh hawk]

I dont want the glow lines. Is there perhaps a way to "glow" without glow lines?

[inner mulch]

glow without the lines would just be nothing, glow doesnt render the entity through walls jsut the lines

what are you trying to do with the effect, maybe there is a workaround?

[marsh hawk]

I have an armorstand. I want to be able to see the armorstand through blocks, without the glow lines. Like, I want to see the actual armorstand.

[inner mulch]

yeah i got that, but whats the purpose of the armorstand?

maybe you can get such a effect differently

[marsh hawk]

There is no alternative purpose, just messing around with entities. And right now, just trying to see them through blocks.

[inner mulch]

okay, then i can just tell you that this probably wont work, i dont know anything except glow for such an effect

maybe some1 else has an idea

[marsh hawk]

I see :c

[inner mulch]

you could use a texturepack and change the core shaders

altough i dont know how and what, but im certain that shaders are managing the rendering

[marsh hawk]

Yeah, if there is no serverside solution

[ashen notch]

how does /tick work? i want to slow dont entity when they by me including arrows but i dont understand. im very new

[remote swallow]

/tick affects the whole server not just entities

[stiff violet]

Hi guys just wondering if anybody could help me with a problem in my java minecraft plugin where for some reason it wont connect to the backend supabase db ive specified

[hazy parrot]

it would be helpfull if you share your error message

[maiden hearth]

what's the best way to handle reloading config changes?

[pseudo hazel]

depends on what the config options do

[maiden hearth]

i think for this specific config itd be best to just have commands which let you directly add or remove stuff

[lapis spade]

Hi guys, I'm developing a plugin, but I can't figure out how I can check whether a wolf has armour. Can anyone help me?

[lilac dagger]

The wolf entity should have a method I think

Let me see

I can only see this

Hmm

[worldly ingot]

It's an inventory holder, isn't it?

It's not. It should be

[lilac dagger]

Ah

Living entity has get equipment

I think the armor is set there

[worldly ingot]

That sounds correct

getEquipment().getChestplate() I think. Wolf refers to it as body

[lapis spade]

I'll try this. Thanks!

[worldly ingot]

There does need to be a WolfInventory though

And I think wolves should be inventory holders

This is how horses are

[cedar depot]

aew

HUH

[inner mulch]

how do people make this green documentation text?

[worldly ingot]

Not sure I understand the question

[ivory sleet]

Javadocs

/** instead of /*

[remote swallow]

normal ides format javadocs nicely

[worldly ingot]

My IDE formats things just fine lol

Also, I'm adding WolfInventory API for armour and whatnot. Guess it was just overlooked

[civic sluice]

Just Sonnenfinsternis things.

[worldly ingot]

Done. Just waiting PR review

But in the future, wolf.getInventory().getArmor() would work fine

[worthy yarrow]

Make sure to give them wolves the ability to fly as well :p

[carmine mica]

... you can set the body for all mob

[remote swallow]

yeah but thats not the point

how is spigot gonna survive without more inventory classes

[eternal night]

https://tenor.com/sq3pTpIaDnu.gif

[remote swallow]

atleast you dont have to pull it if it does get merged

[worldly ingot]

k?

[river oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-boy-kono-subarashii-sekai-ni-shukufuku-wo-konosuba-kazuma-sato-gif-15482120712945268059

[remote swallow]

choco did you see md commented already

[worldly ingot]

Why do you care? You’re not part of the stream anymore so

Im up, no :p

[river oracle]

old habits die hard

[glad prawn]

Why not just wolf.getArmor()

[worldly ingot]

Why not player.getChestplate()? 👀

[glad prawn]

But it only has one armor, unlike the player.

[worldly ingot]

But maybe they add more!

Maybe you can put little socks on your pets

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dog-hiking-booties-awkward-gif-3304910

[remote swallow]

dog crocs

[sly topaz]

I mean, it probably is going to stay as is, don't see horses getting new armor pieces lol

[worldly ingot]

Yes, but horses have an inventory is my point :p

Ideally anything that can hold an item should probably have an inventory

[remote swallow]

do foxes have inventories

[worldly ingot]

An inventory doesn't constitute something the player can see. That's what InventoryView is for

[sly topaz]

can foxes hold anything

[remote swallow]

yeah

[worldly ingot]

In their mouths, yes

[sly topaz]

there doesn't seem to be a way to get/set the item they're biting either

[remote swallow]

why can a fox be a server operator

[sly topaz]

any entity can

[remote swallow]

im guessing its done through EntityEquipment

[sly topaz]

ah that makes sense

[worldly ingot]

We're circling back to the wolf armour dilemma lol

[sly topaz]

wait, if you can already get the armor of a horse/wolf through entity equipment, why do you need an inventory

[worldly ingot]

Readability and ease of access tbh. wolf.getInventory().getArmor() is a lot clearer than wolf.getEquipment().getItem(EquipmentSlot.BODY);

[sly topaz]

though the fox one is indeed weird considering there is no "mouth" equipment slot lol, what would it be considered I wonder

[worldly ingot]

Right. Inventory makes it clearer. Could be getItemInMouth() or some shit lol

[sly topaz]

getItemBeingCurrentlyBitten

[worldly ingot]

getItemCoveredInFoxSalivaAfterBeingInItsMouthSinceWhoKnowsHowLong()

[true mural]

Can I release a plugin that needs a license if its unofuscated and not encrypted whatsoever

kinda lazy to go through everything and remove the license stuff rn

[worldly ingot]

Not sure what you mean

[true mural]

Like the plugin needs a license key to start

[worldly ingot]

Oh license key

[true mural]

Yeah

[worldly ingot]

If it's premium, we don't allow license key systems. They're forbidden by the premium guidelines. It'll get insta-rejected

[sly topaz]

I've never seen anyone do that yet, imagine your server not being able to start until you renew some plugin's license key lmao

[worldly ingot]

And if it's free - why license key it? lol

[true mural]

Oh okay, I'll remove it then

[sly topaz]

free to download, paid to use

[worldly ingot]

me when im adobe

[true mural]

Lol is that even allowed💀

[lilac dagger]

That's not free anymore and abusing premium rule somewhere

[sly topaz]

there is no explicit rule that disallows it however I'd like to believe one would have to be made whenever someone attempts that

it's kind of pointless given how easy it is to remove any kind of protection the plugin might have against cracking anyway

the biggest barrier of entry to cracking plugins is someone actually wanting to spend money in order to get the original jar. Without that you're basically asking these people in shady markets to do it

[lilac dagger]

I guess this sentence is a bit forward and unchecked but the point still stands I think

[sly topaz]

though now that I am thinking about it, since it wouldn't be explicitly a premium plugin you don't have to abide the rules like "needs to work without an internet connection" or "no heavy obfuscation" so you could potentially apply stronger protection lol

[true mural]

yeah its pointless, even if someone were to use a leaked version at this point there's most likely another plugin that does the same thing so doesn't matter tbh, as long as they don't get support its all good to me now lol

[worldly ingot]

That's typically the approach people take (and the approach more should lean towards). Leaks are inevitable, but if you have a way to identify a leaked copy, just don't offer support

Paying for support is just less worrying

[true mural]

Yeah I see that its the best thing to do

[abstract totem]

Is there a way without NMS to get all components on an item/block

[ocean hollow]

why InventoryClickEvent has less events in PlayerInventory than in chest inventory

[chrome beacon]

Are you in creative mode?

[ocean hollow]

yes

oh in survival it works.

thank you

[wise mesa]

is there one maprenderer per map per server or per player?

I can't test because I don't have two accounts and friends are away

[pseudo hazel]

you add a map renderer to a map

you can even have multiple map renderers per map item

[sullen marlin]

I think it's per map

[wise mesa]

oh right because im the one adding it of course

appreciate it

[inner mulch]

thank you

[clear elm]

Does someone know Kody simpson if yes is he good

I want to improve my plugin skills

[inner mulch]

what exactly do you want improve on?

[clear elm]

I want to work with packages nms and databases

[inner mulch]

if he has tutorials for that sure, by packages i assume you mean modules?

[clear elm]

Yes

For example creating npcs

[clear elm]

Do you know someone better than him.

[inner mulch]

whats wrong with him?

[clear elm]

Nothing I haven’t even started watching but probably there is something who explains better

[inner mulch]

i usually ask chatgpt for api

maybe he knows about nms too

[wet breach]

Dont think that is name infamous here

[clear elm]

What do you mean

[clear elm]

I normally like tutorials more

[blazing ocean]

please never use any ai for internals

it will almost always be completely outdated and wrong

[inner mulch]

okay

i agree

chatgpt is hallucinating sometimes

[clear elm]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfu_Bpi_zcDNEKmR82hnbv9UxQ16nUBF7&si=VibK640d6VyZQodL

im thinking about to watch this series but don’t know where to start

[inner mulch]

i wouldn't do that if you only want to add npcs to ur knowledge just search "how to make npcs spigot"

[clear elm]

He like also has videos „understanding packets with ProctolLib“ what I also wanna learn

[inner mulch]

okay, altough, i wouldnt recommend using packets unless ur usecase is for something that the api doesnt cover

[clear elm]

Idk if I want to use it if I don’t know what it exactly does

I just know the word

[inner mulch]

the spigot api also sends packets, altough hidden behind the methods, if the packets change with a version spigot takes care of that, adn you dont need to worry that something doesnt working anymore

packets can break every version

sometimes they are removed, replaced or new params are added

[clear elm]

Would you say it’s important to know how to use them to make good plugins

[inner mulch]

no, you can do almost everything with the api with some exceptions, which is when u need to use packets

[clear elm]

What about nms?

[inner mulch]

nms is the same, it changes every version

the api is much more reliable

[blazing ocean]

nms is just minecraft

[inner mulch]

yes

[clear elm]

I watched 10 seconds of the Tutorial and I heard I can modify mobs or smth like that

[mortal hare]

NMS is uncharted jungle of mojang's deprecated code and modern features mashed together, which bukkit api tries to bootstrap together into one package

[inner mulch]

you can also modify them with the api

by modifying he is probably referring to, making them invisible or on fire etc. which can be done with api too

[mortal hare]

Spigot's/Paper's implementation of its own command api still on modern versions of MC haunts me till this day, when they butcher Mojang's brigadier to fit into bukkit legacy command api. It literally screams for refactor

[clear elm]

He said thad normally friendly mobs attack players

[inner mulch]

i think thats one of the things not exposed in the api, im not sure tho

as i said some things arent in the api, but rarely

[clear elm]

Okay

[inner mulch]

if it isnt in the api it would be a usecase for packets

[mortal hare]

yea i believe there's no proper pathfinding bukkit api

i believe you can do pathfinding and AI stuff only from NMS

Bukkit API is just a safe haven for future compatibility, you usually do not update a plugin if you plainly just use bukkit api just because how backwards compatible API is

[inner mulch]

^

[mortal hare]

but when you use NMS, you introduce minecraft server version as a dependency, thus you need to rerelease usually your plugin to support newer minecraft's implementations

[clear elm]

Okay thanks guys

[mortal hare]

If you're lazy and smart, just use bukkit api

[inner mulch]

api > packets

[mortal hare]

if you want fancy shmancy features that are bleeding edge and there's no proper API for it yet in bukkit api, use NMS

[clear elm]

Also I got a question some plugins need protoLib or packet events to create holograms why

[inner mulch]

because these entities are cheaper when done with packets

they only exists on the client

therefore are not ticked

[mortal hare]

you usually dont want holograms to be entities which are ticking your server and eating your TPS

by spawning packet level hologram (which just fools client that there's a server entity, when in theory it doesnt exist), you can make holograms only exist on the client

[clear elm]

So just for performance reasons

[mortal hare]

kinda

i wouldnt say that they're that much performant tbh

[inner mulch]

yes

altough you can also use the new display entities which are basically the same as their tick method is empty

[mortal hare]

the fact that you need to store ids for holograms to remove them properly, handle them in cases where player gets out of entity visibility range

it can be even worse for performance, as you would still need to write code to handle those packet level entities anyways, its just that it could be handled independently from the server itself, which you can in theory optimize but its just not worth it

i believe nowadays packet entities are obsolete with display entities which were introduced recently i believe in 1.19 or smth

[clear elm]

Okay thanks how do you know all this stuff

[inner mulch]

practice

[clear elm]

Do you have any public plugins?

[inner mulch]

from other ppl on the discord tbh

[inner mulch]

no

[mortal hare]

had bunch of servers since 14 yrs old, now im 21

[clear elm]

Do you have smth public?

[mortal hare]

not really

everything i've developed is for private

[clear elm]

I see

[mortal hare]

it takes a lot of time and patience to develop something for public

and then you get bombarded by spigotmc reviews

to update that plugin to newest version of minecraft

1hr after it gets released

[clear elm]

Yea I know I have some public plugin s

[clear elm]

XD

[wet breach]

It means i dont think they are known here.

Or a person known to be good or significant like some other devs that are known here lol

[echo basalt]

kody simpson is the guy that makes those wacky spigot tutorial vids

on yt

not a community member by any means but somewhat popular because he's a gateway to a lot of ppl joining the scene

[dawn plover]

hey, a quick question to resolve my confusion.
With the 1.21.4 we have the new models format for texturepacks

And so i now picked up the spigot api for 1.21.4
And it still has the setCustomModelData method? (with the int, as the old structure)
but it also has the setCustomModelDataComponent for the newer bits and bobs?
if i understand it correctly, does the old one corresponds to the ranged_dispatch, index 0 now?? since the description about this method also doesnt really make sence anymore or am i missing something?

And also, is this method ever going to be depricated?

[sullen marlin]

The old one just puts an int as first item, same as vanilla migration

[dawn plover]

aha okay. makes sence

and is the setCustomModelData(int: ) planned to be depricated? or will it stay?

[sullen marlin]

I thought it was deprecated, guess not

[dawn plover]

oh, aha

But it doesnt show for me in my editor then :/

[chrome beacon]

It's not deprecated

[dawn plover]

(bottom method is just example of how it shows when it is deprecated. it doesnt have any other relevance)

[chrome beacon]

(yet)

[dawn plover]

aha

okay that makes sence XD

i mean, why not make it depricated imidiatly, but it also doesnt really matter

[chrome beacon]

Might have been an oversight 🤷‍♂️

[grave depot]

guys is there a way to automate that when you build your project, the version of your project in your pom and plugin.yml goes up? ( <version>1.0-SNAPSHOT</version>) & *(version: '1.0')

or do i need to update it everytime manually

[chrome beacon]

You can make maven put the plugin version in the plugin.yml for you

so you only have to change it in one place

[dawn plover]

yea, i guess haha
It doesnt really matter though, since its merely a tag for us coders, i was just curious why it was still being supported, but i suppose its not :P

[grave depot]

alright and how do i do that?

[chrome beacon]

with resource filtering you can just use the variable ${project.version}

[grave depot]

alright thanks

[blazing ocean]

probably paper

[true mural]

Uhhh so when submitting my resource i took out all the license stuff but forgot to remove it from the config updater so when the plugin is run it adds a license feild to the config but the plugin doesn't use a license and well doesn't seem like I can change the jar before its approved??

I mean idk if they run the jar to check it or just check the code but well there's no license so shouldn't get rejected or anything

whatever i'll just update the jar whenever i can

[chrome beacon]

Will probably be rejected then

You'll have to resubmit it after

[silver robin]

how can i browse nms source code specifically for PlayerInteractManager?
I'm on 1.21.1, added spigot dependency in maven pom.xml (it came from build tools) and it doesn't come up when searching for it

(to avoid xy i'm wondering how the instaBreak boolean is calculated/determined in the BlockBreakDamage event)

[chrome beacon]

?mappings

[undone axle]

Compare different mappings with this website: https://mappings.dev/

[chrome beacon]

You're looking for ServerPlayerGameMode

PlayerInteractManager is the Spigot mapped name

[silver robin]

oh for some reason i thought spigot mappings didn't exist anymore in modern versions, tyvm

[chrome beacon]

They're only used for class names now

so they're still sort of around

[silver robin]

I get it backward compatibility and stuff

[chrome beacon]

I don't think that's why

Spigot only maintains backwards compat for the api

Internals can break at any time

[remote swallow]

afaik the only spigot mappings that remain are just the old class names, any new classes get mojmapped iirc

[mortal hare]

Welp

My phone is blind

Almost

Glue, holding the screen loosened off

Now my screen is held down by molex connector

https://tenor.com/view/funny-meme-public-weird-gif-16091119073544711699

[true mural]

I didn't leave it in the config, but on runtime it adds a license key thing to the config that does absolutely nothing, it doesn't stop the plugin from working or anything.

[chrome beacon]

ah I see I misunderstood that

Probably fine then but you might still get rejected if the person going through the plugin doesn't notice that it has no behavior

Worst case just fix and resubmit

No need to worry about it too much

[tight compass]

/tryitandsee

[true mural]

Yeah I'll just wait till they check it and if it gets rejected for that then I'll resumbit, I already fixed it but seems like there's no way to change the jar until its approved.

[deft geode]

Is EntityStorageBlock#releaseEntities not supposed to update the number of entities inside? I see that vanilla, when a bee exits a beehive, the entity count drops, but with the method, it does not

Ok, so with that said, it seems to duplicate the entity/bee

For however many released using the method

[junior geyser]

If I use the world.playSound(Location) or player.playSound(Location)

How far around this location do players hear the sound? There seems to be no javadocs on this, and there is no radius param

[sullen marlin]

use the overloads with volume if you are about the volume

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Sound

"Most sounds can be heard from up to 16 blocks away, with the exception of: "

[junior geyser]

Okay this is helpful thanks.

[sullen marlin]

in fact spigot doesnt even have a method without volume

so no idea what youre doing

[junior geyser]

Basically trying brodacast an ender pearl sound to all players when it is thrown, no matter the distance

[sullen marlin]

loop each player, play it at the player location

[junior geyser]

but it prodeses its own sound, so I dont want to send two sounds

otherwise sounds weird

[junior geyser]

If players are close by, will that not make the sounds play multiple times for them? And still the original sound produced by the pearl plays

[sullen marlin]

no because Player.playSound is that player only

there's not really a way to stop sounds in general

[echo basalt]

there's stopsound

[junior geyser]

Right. Ya there is the stop sound method but that would be hacky

[sullen marlin]

might be the best option

[echo basalt]

rip directionality

but it works

[sullen marlin]

although it'd have to be after the event so idk

[echo basalt]

you can emulate directionality if you're truly devious

(make an entity that follows you at a hardcoded axis)

[junior geyser]

I do not care enough... I just want them to be aware of one.

Even if they hear the two from the original location, that might be okay

Thanks guys!

[hybrid spoke]

just an idea, but would it work to set the enderpearl silent?

[junior geyser]

Thats a thing?

That would super work!

Gonna give it a go thanks for the Idea!

[lean river]

Is anyone know if there is a good way to detect when player traded with villager?

[junior geyser]

Doesn't look like there is event. Probably just inventory click event is the way to go

[lean river]

okay thx

[junior geyser]

Looks like someone was working on it, but then pred it

https://www.spigotmc.org/threads/adding-a-cancellable-villagertradeevent.411963/

[lean river]

How to hide players from tab list?

[blazing ocean]

Player#unlistPlayer

[lean river]

what is it

[summer scroll]

I'm trying to optimize my plugin and it seems this code consuming more than 3% for some reason, could anyone identify why please?

    @EventHandler(priority = EventPriority.HIGHEST, ignoreCancelled = true)
    private void hopper(InventoryMoveItemEvent event) {
        if (!(event.getDestination().getHolder() instanceof Container container)) {
            return;
        }
        ItemStack stack = event.getItem();
        ChunkCollector collector = ChunkCollectorRepository.getCollector(container.getLocation());
        if (collector == null) return;
        // Try to add the item into the chest
        if (collector.addItem(stack)) {
            // Remove the item from hopper if add item is successful
            event.getInitiator().removeItem(stack);
        }
    }

Basically I want to check if item is being transferred to the chunk collector using hoppers, then we handle it differently.

But for some reason getHolder is consuming high usage.

[chrome beacon]

Yeah it needs to make a bunch of copies

You really don't want to call it unless you absolutely have to

[vapid anvil]

paper has a method to get the holder without making a copy

[summer scroll]

I think I have to call the getHolder method in this case, no?

[chrome beacon]

Not really required

Call getLocation directly on the inventory

[summer scroll]

Interesting, but I'd like to have spigot as the base of this plugin.

What, that's a thing?

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/inventory/Inventory.html#getLocation()

yes

[summer scroll]

Damn, is that new or something? I didn't know that.

[chrome beacon]

Looks to have been added in 1.9

[summer scroll]

Ah okay, thanks for the help!

[lean river]

Whic ProtcolLib version should i set if my server is on 1.20.6?

[chrome beacon]

The latest one available

[lean river]

okay so 5.3.0

[true mural]

Yeah

[hushed spindle]

anyone know why this method stopped functioning?

because right now im having to do this manually and its a real pain to deal with lol

[eternal oxide]

Probably because items are component based now

[sly topaz]

because the way the component worked changed, now there's a separate consumable component

https://hub.spigotmc.org/stash/projects/SPIGOT/repos/bukkit/pull-requests/1076/overview there's an open PR that will add proper support for the consumable component, hopefully that's merged soon

[hushed spindle]

ah that's nice

[chilly ember]

since mojang added different wood types for signs , is there a way to check if the block placed is a sign without typing all the varieties out?

[eternal oxide]

Tag.SIGN.isTagged(...

[chilly ember]

how do i use that to check if the placed block is a wall sign?

[chilly swallow]

check if the block data is an instanceof WallSign

if (e.getBlock().getBlockData() instanceof WallSign)

[chilly ember]

oh thank you

[mental drum]

Whats a plugin people desperately need atm

Coming back to the scene and want to give the community something actually useful

[river oracle]

The plugin plugin which creates any plugin I think of its powered with ChatGPT and you pay for all the token requests

Oh also it should send money to my bitcoin wallet too

[chilly ember]

can someone recommend me a good recent plugin dev guide

[river oracle]

Guide on what

[chilly ember]

making plugins

i literally started today lol

[river oracle]

Spigot wiki is fine given you know java

[chilly ember]

except that one time i tried 2 years ago and quit

[river oracle]

Otherwise gl hf

[inner mulch]

when doing this to /** to write docs, how do i reference classes? so that you can click on it and see the impl?

[river oracle]

{@link MyClass}

[inner mulch]

thank

[river oracle]

You could also do @see MyClass but this must be on its own line

[ancient plank]

the ability to change biome colors in the latest version pls thx I'm too lazy to figure it out myself

[river oracle]

So it's far more limited than link

[mental drum]

Please do better on your portfolio..

[inner mulch]

okay thank you guys

[inner mulch]

?

[river oracle]

I will eventually been too lazy to figure out how to put my spigot contributions in there

There's quite a few so I'm not sure how to structure it

[mental drum]

Plugins I’ve Made | blah
Fixes I’ve Contributed | blah
Reviews or Improvements | blah

or in order of cont size or importance

[river oracle]

I feel like that'd get too long though

[mental drum]

Do a creative play on gits commit display

[river oracle]

Oh god no I'm like furthest thing from an artist I'll probably just clump git commit hashes and hyper link them

[mental drum]

Yeah but surely strucutre it or filter per project

[eternal night]

Posting your PR reviews as reference

[river oracle]

Many hang their first dollar I hang my first paper PR request text

[eternal night]

The baller move

[river oracle]

I'd never frame my first spigot PR we don't talk about that one

[eternal night]

[river oracle]

I was a lot dumber 2 years ago or whatever it was

[mental drum]

how do you get smarter?

need help

[ancient plank]

my first spigot pr was me correcting a typo in contributing.md

[river oracle]

Learn

And to learn you need to fuck up a lot

[alpine urchin]

but not too much 💀

[river oracle]

Some fuck ups could be in an app no one uses and another fuck up could be InventoryView#setTitle fuck ups look different depending what you do.

[alpine urchin]

do you guys have plugins people use

if not, what do you guys think about all day

[river oracle]

Improving the server software

Anyone can vouch all I think about is inventories

[eternal night]

nothing 😭

[river oracle]

Checks out

[eternal night]

I just mindlessly fight against my sisyphus-esque punishment

[alpine urchin]

if you buy my plugin for a million dollars, you’ll have something

[ancient plank]

I have 3 plugins people use, one of em I like and the other 2 cause endless stress to me

[eternal night]

What plugin do you offer for a million dollars xD

[river oracle]

Probably packet events

[eternal night]

Sometimes having a fav child isn't too bad

[alpine urchin]

FlyToggler

[river oracle]

Yeah just like my parents (I'm the favorite, I hope atleast)

[ancient plank]

the one is just a plugin that lets you make signs that contain more text, which will never break unless paper really changes things with their hard fork, so I'm chill and it doesn't live rent free in my brain

[eternal night]

sounds relaxed xD

[alpine urchin]

every physics and spanish exam

[river oracle]

I've got a pull request idea all of a sudden

[ancient plank]

wait no I have 4 plugins, the 2nd favorite is the one where it's basically a more open and mobile version of minecraft's grindstone

[alpine urchin]

what is it @river oracle

[ancient plank]

just has groups of blocks that you can exchange blocks for, for building

[alpine urchin]

tell us the idea

the homeboys

bro

he ran away with it like its a business idea

Bro

oh

erm

[river oracle]

Limit sign text to expected amount the client is limited to I'm sure no plugins use this behavior for anything

[ancient plank]

my coding brainchild is a fishing plugin that reworks fishing in minecraft almost entirely but I hate it because it wasn't meant to be in production and getting shit updated on main is near impossible on this server

[alpine urchin]

@river oracle pr to spigot and paper

now

kekw

[river oracle]

Haven't decided about that yet tbh

[eternal night]

both

[river oracle]

I'll probably do paper first and then port it to spigot going forward.

I value all the constructive comments like make title not required

[eternal night]

get paper review bombed

[river oracle]

And also rename class to not include Abstract

These are the type of difficult hard to swallow things you'll never hear on spigot

sorry for the dig but I literally had to

[slender elbow]

non-maintainer being like "you HAVE to change this thing it's ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL" literally renaming a class

like bro chill 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[river oracle]

You laugh now until the entire project collapses turns out that word Abstract pushed the project over the maximum java char limit for total class name length and now everything is on fire 🔥

[ancient plank]

AbstractFishingMechanismHandlerImpl

[eternal night]

HandlerImpl is perfection

[ancient plank]

actually I wonder what the longest class name in my fishing plugin is

[river oracle]

IAbstractRegistryKeyLocationBundlerFactoryBuilderHandlerStructureImplV1_21_4

[pseudo hazel]

🤮

[ancient plank]

oh it's not that bad

"ItemPreventDamageListener" is the longest at 25 characters

[pseudo hazel]

thenyou are delusional

oh

okay

thats not impossible

now I wonder what mine is xD

[ancient plank]

now that doesn't say anything for my method names

I have some long fkin method names

[pseudo hazel]

I would say 4 words is like the max

oof

[ancient plank]

off()

[pseudo hazel]

my longest is probably TeamTemplateStorageSerializer

which is 30 chars

[blazing ocean]

AbstractIrTransformerForFirCodecifyCompanionObjectGenerator would like to have a word with you (59 chars)

[river oracle]

Longest one in my most recent PR is probably AbstractLocationInventoryViewBuilder

Or maybe it's CraftBlockEntityInventoryViewBuilder

[pliant topaz]

Villager#tellWitnessesThatIWasMurdered

and yes, that is an official method name from mojang ;-;

[smoky anchor]

I love the very first one in the mappings

||There was a bug report about this method not being first, which got fixed||

[worldly ingot]

Hey, stupid method names are fun sometimes. I've added my fair share of stupid methods names to Hypixel lol

[ancient plank]

I think this is fine personally

[arctic briar]

hello people, im making a rpg plugin for my 1.21.3 server and i was wondering if its a good idea to register custom entities. I assumed from a source i cant remember that I "needed" to register my custom entities, and in my research to figure that out, I also found some people saying that its a bad idea. I havent gotten entity registration to work yet but now im not sure if its even a good idea to have it at all. 🧘🫃

[mortal hare]

am i the only one who doesnt pollute classes with helper methods/constructors and instead puts them under utility classes

for example copy constructors

[hazy parrot]

Yes

[river oracle]

^ agreed you are

[pseudo hazel]

for me it depends

but usually you would make some kinda method that builds more complicated versions of the same object

like a builder or factory I guess

[mortal hare]

i've started to do this because kotlin does this with its function extensions and i do think it produces cleaner code in long term as helper funcs shouldnt belong in the raw logic

[viscid carbon]

Is it bad to use Object instead of making an model?

public class Requirement {

 private final Object objective;
 private final int amount;
 private final Object type;

 public Requirement(Object type, Object objective, int amount) {
     this.type = type;
     this.objective = objective;
     this.amount = amount;
 }


 public Object getObjective() {
     return this.objective;
 }

 public int getAmount() {
     return this.amount;
 }

 public Object getType() {
     return this.type;
 }
}```

[chrome beacon]

Registering them is a bad idea since it will break the client

[mortal hare]

Just use generics

[chrome beacon]

You should instead manage your own entities

[river oracle]

this seems like a cop out over an actually robust system

[chrome beacon]

instead of injecting them in to the server registry

[arctic briar]

gotcha

thank you 🤵👍

[viscid carbon]

Yeah, i have the actual objects but i just thought of this and was like i wonder if this is bad

[pseudo hazel]

what kinda objects

[river oracle]

unless your a fan of ClassCastException

[pseudo hazel]

I feel like this is too general

like wtf is a requirement

requirement for what

[viscid carbon]

im just asking a general programming question.

[pseudo hazel]

right now you can only use this class to be a container for a requirement

[river oracle]

they're making a questing system

[pseudo hazel]

but like not doing something with it

[river oracle]

but like in that context such design makes no sense

honestly you should probably sparsely ever use Object

usually if you're using Object might be a good sign you need some generics

[viscid carbon]

public record Type(String type) {
}```

xD

[river oracle]

couldn't you just return a String instead then??

[viscid carbon]

i just was curious what the purpose of Object was.

[pseudo hazel]

the only times I used object was to store data ni some kind of hashmap

[river oracle]

why wrap it in a record

[river oracle]

this and its for config files

[worthy yarrow]

I've only ever used Object as a param for conversions or reading data in a way that's applicable to my system(s)

[pseudo hazel]

the purpose of object is that everything is an object

[viscid carbon]

oop

[pseudo hazel]

i.e. allocated on the heap

vs primitive types