help-development

[scarlet bay]

AH SORRY

[lean river]

Heey where could i start when i want to work on NPC i read somewhere that using citizensAPI is good option but i see that isnt free is it true?

[lilac dagger]

There's the ci where they provide free downloads

You can also buy it if you like it

[grim hound]

why isn't the io.netty.util.concurrent.DefaultThreadFactory used here?

like the whole netty depends on the speed of FastThreadLocalThread

[grim hound]

and this just makes normals Threads

how did no server engine maker ever notice this?

for 13 years?

[chrome beacon]

Probably just doesn't need to change

It works fine as is

[sly topaz]

does this actually make a difference nowadays

I was under the impression that was just some legacy part of netty when the thread implementation kinda sucked

[grim hound]

it's a microoptimization

but a network one, so might make a bit of a difference

[chrome beacon]

How so?

[sly topaz]

that doesn't answer my question

[chrome beacon]

In what way is DefaultThreadFactory faster

[grim hound]

it makes FastThreadLocalThread

[sly topaz]

yes, but is it actually faster

it has Fast on the name but that doesn't assure me of anything lol

[grim hound]

yes, because netty uses FastThreadLocal

[grim hound]

instead of Map#get it does array[index]

dassit

;]

[sly topaz]

so there's really no difference

[grim hound]

I mean it's a free optimization

that requires 2 lines of code to change

very slightly

and it gives ~35% speed boost

(it's not like Map#get isn't blazingly fast, I know xd)

[sly topaz]

where is the benchmark for this

because that sounds ridiculous

is it really an optimization, I am highly doubtful of it

[grim hound]

???

why would you believe a benchmark from someone else if you don't believe their words?

[sly topaz]

again, just because it says it is fast, it doesn't necessarily mean it is

[grim hound]

I done it

[sly topaz]

because it would at least give me some insight on where they are basing this information

[grim hound]

I tested it

it's faster

I read the src

it's a really concept

[river oracle]

How did you benchmark though

I guarentee it's marginal at best

[grim hound]

why tf are you all on me?

go benchmark it yourselves

that's the best way to make it believable

[sly topaz]

I mean, you are the one who is claiming it is faster lol so of course anyone would ask for details

[river oracle]

^ 35% speedup is nothing to ignore either. I mean extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence

[grim hound]

I mean it is in the 0.001ms range

so 35% in there is a very slight deviation

[river oracle]

lol so in otherwords pointless alright that's crazy optimization I wonder if that's even accurate then

[grim hound]

anyway, just test out array[index] compared to a small Map#get

[river oracle]

on what object

[echo basalt]

that isn't proof

[river oracle]

because some objects have faster hash functions

[echo basalt]

and what map impl

[river oracle]

that too ^

[grim hound]

this conversation bores me

[river oracle]

like for an Int its hash function is literally just the value

[echo basalt]

You aren't giving a good defense

[sly topaz]

well, you asked a question that will bring out all the nerds, so what did you expect

[grim hound]

my bad

anyway

I

'm gonna go

[echo basalt]

we're performance addicts you can't just come here, say "you smell array > map" and expect to leave without a proper explanation

[grim hound]

it just stores an index in a fixed array

instead of using the java HashMap<Thread, Value>

[echo basalt]

jmh both connections

[grim hound]

...it broke, and I have no idea how I can fix it

[sly topaz]

you'd have a hard time even with JMH tbh if it is indeed at the scale they mentioned lol

[grim hound]

I've been testing with System.nanoTime ever since

[river oracle]

it might fall in the range of acceptable error

with something that small

[sly topaz]

there are definitely some things that are measured at the nanosecond scale, just not something I'd expect here

tho java uses a specialized map implementation for Thread/ThreadLocal nowadays, not a hashmap

[grim hound]

yeah I know

[echo basalt]

mfw 2 clock cycles can be optimized when a player opens a socket and there are no threads type shit

[grim hound]

also, why aren't compression handlers cached?

that seems like a big memory waste

talking about these mfos

isn't using a ThreadLocal like this: a much better solution?

[sly topaz]

how does MC use them

[grim hound]

wdym?

[sly topaz]

what is the equivalent of that getHandler0 method in minecraft's code

[grim hound]

they just do a ```java
new PacketCompressor(compressionThreshold)

for each player

[sly topaz]

I see, so is your cache more of a pool of compression handlers waiting to be used or do you have a single instance of CompressionHandlerImpl?

[grim hound]

yeah, it's a pool

with 4 netty threads, there are 4 compression handlers

and since usually there tend to be more than 4 players online, this would save memory

[grim hound]

CACHE is a ThreadLocal

[sly topaz]

given a packet compressor would be created upon initialization of the connection, pooling the creation of compression handlers doesn't seem all that important given they're only created once and used over a relatively long period and compression handlers are cheap to instantiate

if they were not cheap to instantiate I'd understand more

[grim hound]

I mean 8KB of mem isn't much

but every time I look into any server engine's code I see multiple, even very slight optimizations

[grim hound]

so I think this would be a good one

[sly topaz]

is it an optimization though, how much memory are you saving and what's the sacrifice here

[grim hound]

nothing is sacrificed

[echo basalt]

cool so you're saving 8kb of ram for each player

[sly topaz]

say, isolating only compression handlers, I assume one would be created per player so for 60 players it'd be 60 compression handlers in a standard minecraft server, that means 8kb * 60, is that accurate?

[echo basalt]

if you have 100 players that's 800kb

[grim hound]

well 8KB per player is saved for each player above 4 players

[grim hound]

ye

[grim hound]

I guess 0.8MB isn't anything

[sly topaz]

then your code would re-use those 4 handlers for the 60 players

[grim hound]

aight, nvm then

[sly topaz]

right?

[grim hound]

yeah, they would be shared

[echo basalt]

you just spent 15 minutes ranting about it

Assuming 20$/hr that's 5 bucks

you can get 16gb of good ddr4 for about 30 bucks

that's 53 cents per gb

[sly topaz]

does this not create some churn when it comes to high volume of packets to be compress across multiple connections

[grim hound]

nope

[echo basalt]

congratulations you just saved 0.00053$ in memory for 15 minutes of your time + some compute

[sly topaz]

I don't think it is nothing, if it doesn't necessarily cost some performance due to the instances beeing shared, saving memory is always a good thing

[grim hound]

finally my maniacal nanooptimizations are understood by someone

[sly topaz]

I would be worried it did cause some performance issue with high volume of packets though

[echo basalt]

Saving wasteful memory is aite, micro-optimizing tiny things is a waste of time

[grim hound]

thank you

[grim hound]

...it wouldn't

[echo basalt]

don't forget you're using java. rewrite the game in rust or whatever and you'll reap the real benefits

[grim hound]

xd

[sly topaz]

memory-wise, yeah

performance-wise, uhh, I wouldn't be so sure

[blazing ocean]

okay but usually I won't care about 1-2 megs

[grim hound]

well I am sure

[echo basalt]

i'd rather use 32mb of ram than spent 2ms looking something up type deal

[blazing ocean]

ok but we have enough memory-

[sly topaz]

compressors would have to be shared, so I can't see that not being the case with high volume of packets across different connections

[blazing ocean]

we pay for memory, we're gonna use the memory!

[echo basalt]

I've seen prod servers run with 100gb of ram lmfao

[grim hound]

netty has (by default, on minecraft servers) 4 threads

those 4 threads handle absolutely everything netty does

[blazing ocean]

I've run a server with 140 gigs before

[sly topaz]

minecraft servers?

[echo basalt]

yeah

per instance

[sly topaz]

that's crazy, whoever is doing infra should get fired

[blazing ocean]

that was only cause I was bored

[grim hound]

each compression handler instance should be used on a single thread

[echo basalt]

eh

if it's compute heavy it's aite

[sly topaz]

if it were a single instance holding a redis cache or something, sure I understand

[echo basalt]

or if it handles like a trillion players type shit

[blazing ocean]

folia

[sly topaz]

but minecraft servers won't use 100gb of ram per instance

[blazing ocean]

• 2^31-1 players

[sly topaz]

even if you were to hold 100 survival worlds in memory, you wouldn't use 100gb of memory lol

that is theorically since no server would be able to handle 100 worlds with a single cpu unless they did some black magic to the server code

[blazing ocean]

now I wanna try

[echo basalt]

in memory worlds type shit

the cool thing ab it is that you can have nasty memo leaks and the server wont care for a good while

[sly topaz]

just let it leak and restart the instance™️

[echo basalt]

Map<Player, Whatever> go brr

[blazing ocean]

ok but serialising MinecraftServer is even better

[echo basalt]

why don't we just weakreference bukkit entity nms handle

[blazing ocean]

@shadow night

[echo basalt]

bukkitobjectoutputstream go brr

[river oracle]

BOOS 💀

[echo basalt]

boo! spooky

👻

[quaint mantle]

System.gc() every tick for memory optimization

[blazing ocean]

🧠

[quaint mantle]

Thread.sleep(Long.MAX_VALUE) for multi threaded spigot

[blazing ocean]

FastAsyncMemoryEfficientMultiThreadedSpigot

[river oracle]

FAMEMTS that flows sooo well

[ivory sleet]

Maybe in some years when those quantum processors have been developed :o

[quaint mantle]

Quantum spigot when

[umbral ridge]

in 500 years

there will probably be no discord anymore

economy will be dead

and spigot, no minecraft

😿

[sly topaz]

that's what people thought a decade ago, yet we are still here

doubt minecraft gonna die anytime soon

I am going to keep playing bedwars for as long as hypixel is alive

[quaint mantle]

There's a chance we are in quantum spigot instance

[sly topaz]

or at least until I get 10k stars

whichever one happens first

[ivory sleet]

ill give you a gold star for effort

[ivory sleet]

i mean they have these small 100 qubit processors or whatever it is

"qubit logical gates"

[acoustic pendant]

Why is the ñ showing like that when using ChatColor.translateAlternateColorCodes??

Also this:

Does this make sense?

[sly topaz]

make sure to compile with UTF-8

or read with UTF-8 charset if that's within a configuration file

[acoustic pendant]

I believe I'm doing that

[sly topaz]

did you set it in your pom.xml?

[acoustic pendant]

Ye

[sly topaz]

is that a string in source code or in a file?

[acoustic pendant]

In a file

In config.yml

[sly topaz]

how are you reading it

[acoustic pendant]

getConfig().getString

and then translating it with chatcolor

[sly topaz]

oh apparently you also have to configure the encoding in the maven compiler plugin

[acoustic pendant]

hmm, how can I do that? Not so familiar with maven srry

I have intelij setup to use UTF-8 but didn't work

[sly topaz]

hm, it seems that it defaults to project.build.sourceEncoding so it should be fine

[sly topaz]

is the config.yml UTF-8 encoded?

this is a thing apparently

make sure you are running your server with -Dfile.encoding=UTF-8

[blazing ocean]

"possibly using UTF8"

possibly

[mortal hare]

i wonder how far can you push java's type system to evade runtime checks

[sly topaz]

I can possibly win the lottery today

[mortal hare]

i really like parse dont validate approach

[blazing ocean]

I am possibly the president of the united states

[mortal hare]

but im not keen on creating validation class for each logic

rn im writing basic open renderer using lwjgl and im thinking of abstracting opengl shader nonsense into OpenGLShader class

the problem relies on the fact that opengl api is very unsafe tbh due to how its bindings are from C

so there's really no encapsulation since its a state machine

[sly topaz]

you can get pretty far with records honestly, but I'd wait for valhalla to do this kind of logic in Java

[mortal hare]

what im thinking is that i would have something like

public class OpenGLShader implements AutoCloseable {


  public void CompiledOpenGLShader compile(CharSequence sequence) {}
}

that way i can exploit type system to provide compile time errors if i provide a parameter for another method as CompiledOpenGLShader

but this sounds ok, but we all know that when we have multiple parameters, inheritance doesnt really work anymore

what if shader is also attached, should i create CompilerAttachedOpenGLShader, this just sounds dumb

[slender elbow]

"or possibly"

good api

[blazing ocean]

every second tuesday

the other days its us ascii

[slender elbow]

will save using the system default encoding

or possibly utf8

meanwhile: Writer writer = new OutputStreamWriter(new FileOutputStream(file), Charsets.UTF_8);

system default encoding my ass lol

[mortal hare]

encoding is literally the biggest pain in the ass in terms of IO file handling

file locking is also kinda pain

[sly topaz]

do all implementations just use this

[slender elbow]

i mean, there's only YamlConfiguration in the api, and the method isn't overridden from FileConfiguration so yeah i guess so

[acoustic pendant]

Ill try, Maybe it has something to do that i'm using java 8 and minecraft 1.8? (Yes I know is super old and unsupported but I need to use this version srry)

[sly topaz]

I am not well-versed enough in OpenGL or shaders in general to answer this question, however here's what chatgpt has to say about it if you are bored:
https://chatgpt.com/share/67673214-b874-800f-80b6-8d4a76bfec41

[sly topaz]

I wouldn't rule it out

[acoustic pendant]

But this have never happened to me before

Weird

[mortal hare]

i have...

flashing rectangle

on gpu

yay

[sly topaz]

now make raytraced spheres

[slender elbow]

you mean shiny balls?

[sly topaz]

yeah, but with ray-tracing because baked lighting is for kids

[mortal hare]

is it even possible to design typesafe wrapper for opengl api on java

[sly topaz]

it is possible, just not very efficient

[mortal hare]

if i construct CompiledOpenGLShader from OpenGLShader's class compile(CharSequence source), the new object would still point to the same opengl state id, so i can fuck CompiledOpenGLShader state just by recompiling wrong code from OpenGLShader class, unless i deliberately create new shader on the state, by isolating previous shader, but that's just dumb

by typesafe i meant compile time typesafe

that's even harder if not impossible due to how opengl is a state machine

i really like the idea of type system exploitation for validation

but for some things i cant seem to make it work

[granite pilot]

I think you're trying to recreate a language server

[sly topaz]

you could probably make do with annotation processors too, lots of people use them for diagnostic purposes

annotating classes/methods just to check them does sound ugly though

[mortal hare]

i guess i can do something like this:

import org.lwjgl.opengl.GL33;

public class OpenGLShader implements AutoCloseable {
    private final int id;

    public OpenGLShader(final int id) {
        this.id = id;
    }

    public static OpenGLShader create(final OpenGLShaderType type, final CharSequence source) {
        int id = GL33.glCreateShader(type.getCode());
        
        GL33.glShaderSource(id, source);
        GL33.glCompileShader(id);
        if (GL33.glGetShaderi(id, GL33.GL_COMPILE_STATUS) == GL33.GL_FALSE) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("Failed to compile shader: " + GL33.glGetShaderInfoLog(id));
        }
        
        return new OpenGLShader(id);
    }

    int getId() {
      return this.id;
    }

    @Override
    public void close() {
        GL33.glDeleteShader(this.id);
    }
}

it only allows you to construct the OpenGL shader if you have the source for it and its been sucessfully compiled

else it throws exception

from that point i can pass this OpenGLShader object, ensured that the instance of OpenGLShader is compile-time type-checked and runtime parsed and it is ready to use for the program object

this minimizes the need to check for validity for each time it encounters that shader

and you only expose getId() as a package-default so that only OpenGLShaderProgram can access the shader id unsafely by its id to attach it to its internal opengl program object state

I really like this, but there one cons of this technique: Its not scalable!!!!!!
If you want to have combinations of multiple things, you cannot do that, so usually you make domain level types instead

also the problem is that you can call close() externally and i will fuck the OpenGLShader object. But this factory method's function was to compile code and validate that its compiled and not check its lifecycle so

https://tenor.com/view/love-and-hate-at-the-same-time-24kgoldn-released-its-complicated-mixed-feelings-gif-20437447

[mortal hare]

or... i can skip OpenGLShader class and opt in for Program class instead for compilation of shaders (its not as if shaders can be used outside of program object anyways):

import org.lwjgl.opengl.GL33;

public class OpenGLShaderProgram implements AutoCloseable {
    private final int id;

    private OpenGLShaderProgram(final int id) {
        this.id = id;
    }

    public static OpenGLShaderProgram create(OpenGLShaderData... shaderData) {
        int programId = GL33.glCreateProgram();
        for (OpenGLShaderData data  : shaderData) {
            int shaderId = GL33.glCreateShader(data.getType().getCode());

            GL33.glShaderSource(shaderId, data.getSource());
            GL33.glCompileShader(shaderId);
            if (GL33.glGetShaderi(programId, GL33.GL_COMPILE_STATUS) == GL33.GL_FALSE) {
                throw new IllegalStateException("Failed to create program shader: " + GL33.glGetShaderInfoLog(programId));
            }

            GL33.glAttachShader(programId, shaderId);
        }

        GL33.glLinkProgram(programId);
        if (GL33.glGetProgrami(programId, GL33.GL_LINK_STATUS) == GL33.GL_FALSE) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("Failed to link program shaders: " + GL33.glGetProgramInfoLog(programId));
        }

        return new OpenGLShaderProgram(programId);
    }

    public int getId() {
        return this.id;
    }

    @Override
    public void close() {
        GL33.glDeleteProgram(this.id);
    }
}

with this i can be completely sure that that program is ready to be used within renderer if it was created within the renderer

[tight compass]

Would it be a bad idea to use the BungeeCord APIs ChatEvent for stuff like staff chat and maybe chat filtering? I ask because these involve cancelling the event, and I'm not sure how well this works by executing these events on the BungeeCord. I understand that Spigot runs an asyncronous chat thread, does this wait for bungeecord to respond or no.

[sly topaz]

staff chat sounds fine to me, chat filtering might prove somewhat annoying

[tight compass]

How so

[sly topaz]

well, you can't set messages yet if I remember correctly

https://github.com/SpigotMC/BungeeCord/issues/3336 the issue about it is still open

[tight compass]

Really? I feel like-

Ohh

I was going to say, I thought I saw the method in there but I guess it doesn't matter if it doesn't work

[sly topaz]

there is a workaround it seems with a plugin like this: https://github.com/Xayanix/BringBackChatEdit however I don't know how well that works

you can give it a go though

[tight compass]

Alright

Here's another question, if you have several spigot servers running on the same computer to pool resources, is it possible to have one, almost like a shared API that runs the same core for each spigot server? Just so that you don't have to be loading an identical core for each server?

[sly topaz]

that's what people have a shared database for, then just a plugin/library to standarize communication with the database between the different servers and for the different actions

people also put a redis cache on the line or use pub/sub systems, it all depends on what's more familiar to you and how well-versed you are about infra design

[tight compass]

I know, but lets say you had 3 Lobby servers each with identical plugins. You have all three servers running on the same computer to pool resources. But I'm pretty sure, wouldn't the JVM have to load the same plugin jars three times and keep them loaded during execution? Is there a way to only load it once?

Or have I got something wrong here

Also, you didn't answer my question earlier about whether or not the spigot Async chat event waits for the BungeeCord API's ChatEvent

[sly topaz]

the proxy receives all the packets and then forwards to the backend servers, so yes, if the proxy cancels or never returns the event, it'll never receive it

[tight compass]

Alright

[sly topaz]

due to how tightly coupled plugins and the server are, I doubt you'd be able to achieve something like that, if it were more modularized, I'd recommend something like layrry for it though

then again, you could have your lobby instances all share logic by having all the logic on the proxy instead of the backend

then just communicate the necessary information to the backend servers

you'd have to switch all your plugins to proxy ones though which depending on what they do, it might not be as easily possible but for lobbies, I don't see that being the case

I also recommend using lobby-specific software like a stripped down minestom impl or something like limbo servers out there for maximum performance, that way you don't waste much on the lobby instances since they don't need much processing done anyway

[tight compass]

Yeah, this was more of a hypothetical question. But this is fair. For my specific usecase, I have several gamemode servers running the server core, and I just wanted to know if these servers were running on the same computer if I could then not load this core on all three server instances.

And it also goes beyond the plugins, but the server architecture itself

I just realized

I could modify spigot to run multiple server instances, but that'd take forever

[sly topaz]

it is technically possible, by using some black magic and modifying the server classloader kek, probably a fun pet project

[tight compass]

yeah, LOL

I ain't doin allat

[earnest girder]

IntelliJ is saying "vulnerability found" in my craftbukkit dependency... is that an issue?

[eternal night]

no

[river oracle]

You sure I think it's probably not good I wasn't planning on them finding that backdoor I put in

[eternal night]

[remote swallow]

so thats why paper hardforked

[river oracle]

No paper didn't find it

They still have their TotallyNotAVirus.patch

It's a binary patch too btw

[eternal night]

hidden in the server icon patch btw /s

[river oracle]

Yeah I wish leaf would stop trying to remove it 🙃

[mortal hare]

i hate java streams api

why does it have mapToDouble

when it doesnt have mapToFloat

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-12016032281853623374

whoever thought to not include mapToFloat inside Streams api is 🐒

[slender elbow]

floats

[scarlet jolt]

is anyone able to vc and i ss my project

[desert aspen]

How could i make a mob has a bossbar that lowers with his health?

[merry cove]

task timer that checks the boss health and cancel when he dies and updates health each delay. it's the most basic answer 😛

[young knoll]

You can update it in the damage event

[prime kernel]

Why won't it let me install Spigot 1.8.8?

[merry cove]

this dev or #help-server related?

[sly topaz]

if you are fine with using preview features, you can use stream gatherers:

public static <T> Gatherer<T, ?, Float> mapToFloat(Function<? super T, Float> mapper) {
    Objects.requireNonNull(mapper, "mapper must not be null");

    return Gatherer.of(
        (_, element, downstream) -> downstream.push(mapper.apply(element))
    );
}

they're gonna be final for jdk 24 without API changes so you could use them just fine

if you want something exactly like the other map methods, you'd have to make a FloatStream, shouldn't be hard but kinda annoying honestly lol

[ivory sleet]

why not just use map?

[glad prawn]

FloatStream when

[sly topaz]

great question

that method would've been more useful if it actually provided a FloatStream

[ivory sleet]

Yea true

[pure dagger]

is there a way to make bigger resolution maos?

maps?

i know you can place more maps on a wall but thats not what i want

[rough drift]

there is it's called wait for me to finish Helix

kekw

[sly topaz]

you mean like, bigger when holding the item?

[tiny tangle]

hi, i dont know after using ```plugins {
id 'java'
id 'java-library'
id "io.github.patrick.remapper" version "1.4.2"}

does it has to add repositories and dependencies?

[pure dagger]

i mean more pixels, its 128x128

even if you make it bigger in cartography table, its also 128x128 but 1 pixel is 4 blocks

bruh what

wron channel i guess

[clear elm]

I have a example.txt file in my ressorces foulder and would like to create a file into the plugin foulder with the name and the content of the example.txt in my ressorces foulder how can i do this

[chrome beacon]

Just adding the plugin isn't enough

you need to configure it. See the README file

[clear elm]

also only if the file doesnt exists yet

[chrome beacon]

plugin.saveResource("example.txt", false);

[sly topaz]

you can use that or just the standard java file api, either way works

[clear elm]

just this?

[chrome beacon]

yes

[clear elm]

and its automatically that the file only createws if it dont exists yet?

[chrome beacon]

yes

The false stands for replace

[clear elm]

ah okay thanks

[chrome beacon]

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/plugin/java/JavaPlugin.html#saveResource(java.lang.String,boolean)

[tiny tangle]

what I understood is it like, download buildtools, then generate a jar ?

[clear elm]

okay thank you, do you also know how i can create the file in another foulder

not in the main foulder

[sly topaz]

you'd use java's API for it

see Files#createFile and Files#createDirectories

[clear elm]

thanks

[chrome beacon]

nio

[sly topaz]

what does your build.gradle.kts look like

put it in a paste

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[clear elm]

im getting this error

java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: The embedded resource 'example.txt' cannot be found in plugins/ItemSpawner-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.saveResource(JavaPlugin.java:209) ~[paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at eu.tomlegend.itemSpawner.ItemSpawner.onEnable(ItemSpawner.java:485) ~[ItemSpawner-1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.java.JavaPlugin.setEnabled(JavaPlugin.java:281) ~[paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at io.papermc.paper.plugin.manager.PaperPluginInstanceManager.enablePlugin(PaperPluginInstanceManager.java:189) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at io.papermc.paper.plugin.manager.PaperPluginManagerImpl.enablePlugin(PaperPluginManagerImpl.java:104) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at org.bukkit.plugin.SimplePluginManager.enablePlugin(SimplePluginManager.java:507) ~[paper-api-1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.jar:?]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugin(CraftServer.java:642) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at org.bukkit.craftbukkit.v1_20_R1.CraftServer.enablePlugins(CraftServer.java:553) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.loadWorld0(MinecraftServer.java:635) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.loadLevel(MinecraftServer.java:434) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at net.minecraft.server.dedicated.DedicatedServer.initServer(DedicatedServer.java:308) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.runServer(MinecraftServer.java:1100) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.lambda$spin$0(MinecraftServer.java:317) ~[paper-1.20.1.jar:git-Paper-196]
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:840) ~[?:?]```

but i think i created the file right

[sly topaz]

did you recompile the plugin

[clear elm]

yes

[tiny tangle]

im not using kts, just normal gradle, what i dont know its like i inserted the ```plugins {
id 'java'
id 'java-library'
id "io.github.patrick.remapper" version "1.4.2"
}
...
tasks {
remap {
version.set("1.20.1")
}
}
tasks.withType(JavaCompile) {
options.encoding = 'UTF-8'
}

[sly topaz]

open the jar with 7z or something, check if the file is there

[chrome beacon]

Are you using maven or gradle?

[clear elm]

maven

[chrome beacon]

How did you compile your jar

[sly topaz]

you're missing the dependencies block

[chrome beacon]

Did you select the remapped flag when running BuildTools

[tiny tangle]

whats the dependencies. for that

i just only have ```dependencies {

compileOnly 'org.spigotmc:spigot-api:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT'```

[chrome beacon]

You don't really need that

[clear elm]

for some reaseon the file is named Example.txt not example.txt

[sly topaz]

this is why I asked for the whole thing

you are using spigot-api, not the remapped spigot jar

dependencies {
    compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:remapped-mojang")
}

[chrome beacon]

Remapper will take care of that

[sly topaz]

remapper will only do the special source task, not add it to classpath as far I was aware

[chrome beacon]

I don't remember having to do that when using it

Nor does the github instructions tell you do add it

[tiny tangle]

do i need still need to use the buildtools ? or with that good to go for using net.minecraft classes

[chrome beacon]

Yes

BuildTools with the remapped flag

[sly topaz]

you need to use build tools with the remapped option but that's only once

[chrome beacon]

and make sure to build 1.20.1

[tiny tangle]

oh, then where do I put the jar of that

[sly topaz]

well, you may want to do it regularly if you are using latest but you aren't

[clear elm]

i decompiled it and there is no file example.txt why?

[sly topaz]

that is what the ?nms guide does

[chrome beacon]

🤷‍♂️ maybe

You might be right

[sly topaz]

that's really strange, it shouldn't randomly try to capitalize a file name

[chrome beacon]

Are you sure you're not using an old jar

[clear elm]

but the contect of the example.txt is in the Example.txt

yes

[sly topaz]

what does your pom look like, just to be sure

[chrome beacon]

Could you send your pom

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[clear elm]

https://paste.md-5.net/hipupuloxi.xml

when decompiling it there is instead of example.txt Example.txt with the contect of the example.txt from ressorces

[smoky berry]

Hey, I'm currently working on an UHC Marvel plugin in 1.8 but there are some things I'm not good enough to work on it so I'm searching if some people are willing to help ^^'

[wet breach]

eeew 1.8

?outdated

hmmm

?1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft188.today/

[clear elm]

no way the bought the domain for this

[sly topaz]

you don't have to set the resources folder manually, it is src/main/resources by default

other than that, I don't know honestly, could be maven shade doing dumb stuff?

can you disable shade plugin just to check

comment it out

[blazing ocean]

?howold 1.8

[undone axle]

https://howoldisminecraft.today/1.8

[clear elm]

where can i do this

[sly topaz]

just comment it out in the pom

[clear elm]

which line?

[tiny tangle]

okay, i got this spigot-1.20.1.jar

[sly topaz]

<!--<plugin>...</plugin> -->

for the shade plugin of course

[wet breach]

probably be better if they just showed their pom

[sly topaz]

they did, it doesn't have anything glaring

[sly topaz]

see here

[clear elm]

what do you mean by comment

ig i will just keep it under the name Example it doesnt really matter

[wet breach]

its probably the filtering

they should set it to false

[sly topaz]

yeah I was just checking that too

didn't think filtering would affect the file name but I guess it is a thing lol

[wet breach]

well filtering doesn't mean to remove persay

it does some manipulations based on rules

[sly topaz]

I've only ever used it for placeholder replacement

[wet breach]

I have a plugin for that

[blazing ocean]

gonna have fun with this one

[hybrid spoke]

ew no codeglance

[wet breach]

https://github.com/frostalf/ServerTutorial/blob/master/ServerTutorial/pom.xml#L135-L156

[sly topaz]

why not just use the maven-resources-plugin filtering for something like that

[wet breach]

because this is simple

didn't need something that can do complex stuff when I don't need such functionalities

and at the time, I don't think that existed and I just never bothered changing what works

[hybrid spoke]

KISS

[sly topaz]

I don't think the filtering is complex, just the naming is confusing

you wouldn't expect a "filter" to do token replacement

[wet breach]

well it is a form of filtering

[sly topaz]

it is, just that one doesn't usually perceive filtering as a mutative operation per se

[wet breach]

hey the colors match your name

so that is good right?

[sly topaz]

why do you have so many errors

did you do a merge

[wet breach]

probably updated a dependency

or decompiled something

[sly topaz]

that's always fun

[wet breach]

yeah, never a fan when a dependency update causes literally everything to break

[young knoll]

Nah he’s just really bad at writing code

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017515898870956154.gif?size=48&name=pepe_laugh&quality=lossless

[hybrid spoke]

maybe he's a sadist and likes to suffer

[sly topaz]

lmao, imagine

[wet breach]

lol

[blazing ocean]

I'm doing kotlin explicit API mode now

After doing my regex magic, I've reduced that down to 17 errors

[tiny tangle]

im having error

[hybrid spoke]

we all do marks, we all do

[tiny tangle]

after I putted the jar into my main plugin carpet file then using that compileOnly("org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT:remapped-mojang") says unresolved dependency

[blazing ocean]

thanks IJ

[young knoll]

Did you run buildtools

With the remapped flag

[tiny tangle]

yes

and the jar file into my main plugin carpet folder.

throwing like Could not find org.spigotmc:spigot:1.20.1-R0.1-SNAPSHOT.

the jar calls spigot-1.20.1.jar

[sly topaz]

try adding mavenLocal() to your repositories

[blazing ocean]

yeah you need that

[tiny tangle]

oh

omg

👽

🫶 no homo

oh, quick question

implementation "com.mojang:authlib:X" where do I see like these stuff what version could i use to 1.20.1

and what does jetbrains do

[sly topaz]

I don't think you need to depend on this

[tiny tangle]

oh, okay

[sly topaz]

and I am unsure of what you're referring to with jetbrains

jetbrains is a company that makes ides like IntelliJ

[tiny tangle]

oh, i saw like other plugins using jetbrains library, but im not aware that what does .

[chrome beacon]

You mean annotations?

[pseudo hazel]

probably for the annotations

[tiny tangle]

oh

[sly topaz]

they have quite a couple of libraries, but it is probably the nullability annotations yeah

nowadays you'd prefer jspecify ones though

[pseudo hazel]

why

[sly topaz]

it is the community consensus

https://jspecify.dev/

[hybrid spoke]

damn what a nice game

[tiny tangle]

okay, next probably to figure how to use the Rad`s inject repository

[sly topaz]

for what are you using it for

[pseudo hazel]

alr good to know I guess lol

[chrome beacon]

Hosting resourcepack on the server port

[tiny tangle]

since im newbie , just start learning local resource custom pack of a green apple item.

[young knoll]

Another annotations standard?

Where’s xkcd

[blazing ocean]

Check the javalin example module

fuck

[sly topaz]

this one is supported by most of the members, but yeah xkcd applies

[blazing ocean]

https://xkcd.com/927

xkcd: Standards

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

[young knoll]

Thank you

[tiny tangle]

Thanks you

[blazing ocean]

I made a lil vencord plugin for XKCDs

[young knoll]

Jetbrains supports it?

[blazing ocean]

Yea

[young knoll]

But don’t they have their own

[blazing ocean]

Yup

[young knoll]

Wack

[chrome beacon]

The IDE understands more than just Jetbrains annotations

It supports most of the ones in use

(all of the ones I'm aware of at least)

[sly topaz]

I mean, jetbrains ones just existed before jspecify became a thing

[pseudo hazel]

do I see another eclipse L?

[blazing ocean]

I love public final inline fun reified

[chrome beacon]

fun

[sly topaz]

OpenRewrite has recipes for migrating from all known annotations to jspecify luckily, so it isn't so much of a burden to do it

[young knoll]

Recipes?

Are we crafting now

[dry hazel]

a spec for automated refactoring

[blazing ocean]

but if I use that, I can't spend my time procrastinating :(

[pseudo hazel]

i gotta cook some of those recipes then

[tiny tangle]

🤣

[tiny tangle]

rad

implementation("net.mcbrawls.inject:spigot:3.1.2") cannot use it, im on java 17

i dont know what version I could use

:C

[blazing ocean]

No idea how to deal with older java versions tbh lmao

@chrome beacon perhaps you have any ideas

[oblique igloo]

This a decant place to ask for help with nms and packets?

[blazing ocean]

yup

[oblique igloo]

Trying to make it so that an npc is sleeping using nms and packets. I have the npc spawning I just can't seem to find the right packet to set the position of the npc. I am trying to use the ClientboundSetEntityDataPacket but I can't seem to get it to work, I even tried creating a list of synced data values for it

        serverPlayer.setPose(Pose.SLEEPING);
        gamePacketListener.send(new ClientboundPlayerInfoUpdatePacket(ClientboundPlayerInfoUpdatePacket.Action.ADD_PLAYER, serverPlayer));
        
        // Npc laydown
        List<SynchedEntityData.DataValue<?>> entityDataList = serverPlayer.getEntityData().getNonDefaultValues();
        gamePacketListener.send(new ClientboundSetEntityDataPacket(serverPlayer.getId(), entityDataList));
        
        
        gamePacketListener.send(serverPlayer.getAddEntityPacket(serverEntity));
        spawnedNPCs.put(name, serverPlayer);
    }```

Can send the full code for spawning the player if required. Also should mention this is for 1.21.3

[chrome beacon]

1.20.1 should work with Java 21

if not see if you can update to a more modern version

[dense birch]

How is Bridge training server lobby made???
Does anyone have any ideas?
I want to write a plugin that creates a lobby with the maps I have in .slime format
I have no idea how Bridge training maps work

[chrome beacon]

Probably easier to just skip the slime format

No real need for it

[dense birch]

I want to be able to use custom maps, now I'm only stuck at this stage of the maps, almost everything is ready.

[chrome beacon]

You can use custom maps without the slime format?

[dense birch]

Wdym, yes, I can use them, but isn't it more optimal to use swm?

[chrome beacon]

Not much

[dense birch]

For example, I want it to be like this, every player who comes will have a map added, then if the player wants, he can customize it, if he doesn't want, he will go with the normal map. After playing, the map disappeared .... I don't want the server to be pressured

[chrome beacon]

Custom how?

From different preselected maps or can they build their own maps

also how large are these maps

[dense birch]

pre selected

[chrome beacon]

Then one way is to just have one world with all the maps in different locations. Then teleport people to the map they want and then handle the blocks per player

If you want to be extra optimal you can use Minestom instead of Spigot so you don't have any unnecessary features loaded

[dense birch]

Good idea, thank you for your help

[lethal kindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSnPOYeTW-0

in this insane video of this guy he said that servers are able to get inputs directly at 5:55
WASD, in 1.21.4
does anyone knows how?

[eternal night]

PlayerInputEvent

[lethal kindle]

ty

[quaint mantle]

can i get suggestion and idea? with question

off topic but i need write here

[pseudo hazel]

?ask

[undone axle]

If you have a question, please just ask it. Don't look for staff or topic experts. Don't ask to ask or ask if people are awake or available. Just ask the question to the channel straight out, and wait patiently for a reply. Make sure you use the right channel regarding the topic of your question. Create a thread in case the channel is already in use!

[mortal hare]

i love opengl. Sometimes it freaks out that sequence is operation is not right and provides NO ERRORS AT ALL.... but sometimes it forgives you and allows to do operations out if its sequence

turns out i've wasted 4 hours of time just because opengl glVertexAttribPointer was called before vertex buffer was binded

no one helped, neither google, neither people, neither ai

and there's literally zero info on operation sequences

I LOVE IT WHEN I CAN ENABLE VERTEX ATTRIBUTE:
GL33.glEnableVertexAttribArray(index);

BEFORE SETTING IT UP VIA:
GL33.glVertexAttribPointer(index, count, type.getCode(), attribute.isNormalized(), type.getByteSize() * count, offset);
WHICH MAKES NO SENSE SO IT SHOULD CRASH BECAUSE THERE'S NO DEFINITION OF OPENGL ATTRIBUTE POINTER... BUT IT DOESNT! WOW!

BUT SETTING UP POINTER BEFORE INTIALIZING BUFFER:
GL33.glBindBuffer(code, buffer)

CRASHES THE WINDOW! AND GUESS WHAT IT PROVIDES NO ERRORS VIA:
GL33.glGetError()

I LOVE IT WHEN I NEED TO DEBUG THIS WITHOUT NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT ITS DOING. GOOD JOB OPENGL 🤬

https://tenor.com/view/brat-mad-upset-tantrum-badkid-gif-5945754

[shadow night]

Welcome to graphics programming

[mortal hare]

i guess to prevent such dumb issues, i will implement a method which takes both attribute data and vertex buffer data arrays instead of decoupling them. this is just dumb api

[slender elbow]

the alternative is vulkan

good luck :^)

[serene egret]

is it possible to make this effect appearing without spawning an enderdragon ? And if yes is it also possible to change the size of the effect? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyziwZb4j5JkAEWLq8OJLmlEX18J5SjKq8N1rwX-lXmt6dBTmx6cJ8B46QkV9cOLczFTk&usqp=CAU

[eternal oxide]

You might be able to fake it, but you can't make it bigger

like spawn the dragon invisible, then kill it and turn it visible. But that will likely be janky

[gilded granite]

where is the guide for exporting in the server directly

[eternal oxide]

exporting?

[blazing ocean]

probably building

[blazing ocean]

https://blog.jeff-media.com/how-to-make-maven-automatically-put-your-plugins-jar-into-your-test-servers-plugins-folder/

[gilded granite]

thx

[wintry anvil]

How would I send a player to another server (using velocity) If thats possible idk

[eternal oxide]

?pmc

[undone axle]

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/bukkit-bungee-plugin-messaging-channel/

[serene egret]

mhm okay, but i found this clip on reddit and obviously somebody found out a way to make it bigger https://packaged-media.redd.it/owp8d594h1l31/pb/m2-res_360p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1734894000&s=636f91db24d5685103c87aefa71a42729a0db22f#t=19.334806

[jovial mason]

but with the code he starts flying in an instant as soon as i press jum

[mortal hare]

This value must be zero

WHY DO YOU INCLUDE IT THAT THEN

i would get that if it was deprecated or smth

there's literally no mention of deprecation

its just there

[cedar saffron]

how to have multiple textures on one item using custom block data?

(phillip told me to ask this)

hes too scared

[blazing ocean]

It's custom model data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K39U55l4-O0

[cedar saffron]

thx big dawg

[blazing ocean]

Actually don't use that tutorial if you're on <1.21.4

[jovial mason]

https://pastebin.com/pE5Tzz1d so basically I want the player to start gliding if he jumps down from the spawn which should look like this: https://streamable.com/bufabi

but with the code he starts flying in an instant as soon as i press jum
some1 can help me? i am trying to fix it for 6 hours already i really aint good at java

[blazing ocean]

https://www.planetminecraft.com/forums/communities/texturing/new-1-14-custom-item-models-tuto-578834/ but rather this

[cedar saffron]

hes on 1.21.4 he says

[blazing ocean]

Yea that'll only work on 1.21.4 and higher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8PPPEl_IQ is also a good one

[cedar saffron]

nah hes tryna have different textures like varients for the fireball or ghastball or what ever its called (i forgor)

[blazing ocean]

Are you trying to have different textures for an entity or what

That video is for items

[remote swallow]

I was about to say why does that look like martyn

Is is martyn

[blazing ocean]

It is

[cedar saffron]

he apparently needs 100 different textures for the firecharge item

[remote swallow]

Is he animating it

[blazing ocean]

Yeah that works the same way

It's just custom model data

No he isn't

[cedar saffron]

ok

[jovial mason]

bump

[clever lantern]

any idea how to fix when two players view the same inventory and one of them exists it the other player inventory contents are deleted somehow?

[chrome beacon]

Sounds like you have some code clearing inventories

[fair rock]

Only 1.21.4 right? Because i didnt saw that before

[eternal night]

.3 iirc (well .2, but .2 doesn't exist)

[desert aspen]

does EntityDamageByEntityEvent can detect when a arrow hit a enderman?

[mortal hare]

opengl debugging be like ☝️

[pure dagger]

is it possible to make more resolution maps?

more than 128x128

[mortal hare]

i swear people are keen on supporting 1.8 no matter what

someone's trying to port Sodium to Minecraft 1.8

[pure dagger]

why people playing 10 y/o version of 15 y/o game

[modern dragon]

Servers for 1.5.2 are still active

[pure dagger]

xD

[paper viper]

No

[pure dagger]

thats bad

[shadow night]

As if there isn't one already

[modern dragon]

People! I want help with something I could not figure out when I initially made my server. It is a a latin-only server (as in the ancient latin, not american spanish) - we have a custom translation to replace the shitty GT one provided by Mojang and it is in an automatically downloaded resourcepack - the problem is that the language then still has to be manually set by the player to the custom language. Can I make it, so that the server would force a particular language upon entrance?

[sullen marlin]

Don't think so

[blazing ocean]

Well yes

[sullen marlin]

Presumably you've forced the resource pack

[pure dagger]

omg spigot admin

[blazing ocean]

You can just copy the latin lang file and rename it to en_us

or just copy it for literally each MC lang

[sullen marlin]

Big brain

[modern dragon]

That can be done through server properties

[shadow night]

Or make a tool for that

[blazing ocean]

Well you can't really force em

The client can just spoof the packet but yea

[sullen marlin]

You can also propose changes to the Mojang pack via like crowdin

[blazing ocean]

I did, I'm tryna find it rn but my terminal freezes as soon as I try to navigate to my HDD

[modern dragon]

Our translation is complete and I am still adding vowel lengths for the final version.

[blazing ocean]

https://pastes.dev/e1PbcbzKyr

a little chatgpt

[shadow night]

Oh so you are doing late latin? (Or was that early? Can't remember)

[modern dragon]

I am doing Latin overall

There is also mediaeval vocabulary for later concepts

[shadow night]

There are like 5 different latins, isn't there

[modern dragon]

But everything with vowel length

[shadow night]

Early, middle, late latin, vulgar latin, classical latin, whatever, no idea

[sullen marlin]

Oh that's fun, I know Latin

Mostly reading only though, so translating to Latin is pretty good

[lilac dagger]

Lore ipsum is Latin no?

In that case I know latin

[modern dragon]

classical Latin still had the vowel lengths and is the grammatical standard that was followed for millennia to come - although there are some quirks from Late Latin that are also accepted

[shadow night]

I believe it is

[modern dragon]

😄

[shadow night]

Lorem ipsum dolor amet

[lilac dagger]

Speaking Latin sounds like such a cool thing to know

[modern dragon]

My server is already up for like half a year and people play there from time to time

[lilac dagger]

Or even enjoy reading principia in the original form

[modern dragon]

It is under my latin only discord server

[modern dragon]

I did actually read it through

A lot more boring than I hoped

[lilac dagger]

I didn't

[mortal hare]

is it really

[blazing ocean]

Anyway you can do something like this, I just cloned the MC assets (https://github.com/misode/mcmeta/tree/assets) and wrote my languages to all those files

[lilac dagger]

Still bad at math to understand that

[mortal hare]

i thought lorem ipsum is Sims language

[shadow night]

I would join if I was allowed to learn latin instead of spanish but my school said no

[sullen marlin]

Joining Latin only discord server be like

[modern dragon]

Everyone is allowed to learn what they want

[sullen marlin]

salve

[shadow night]

Can't get grades for knowing latin tho

[modern dragon]

You don't need school to do that. I never had Latin at school and I teach it as someone actually from STEM

[mortal hare]

equality != equity

[sullen marlin]

exit

[shadow night]

I don't like spanish, I like latin and they force me to do spanish :(

[modern dragon]

You can get pretty much all resources for free

[shadow night]

Would be more efficient if I learnt spanish tho

[mortal hare]

if i had free time i would probably learn basic spanish

its sounds so cool

[modern dragon]

Spanish is great

[mortal hare]

and very easy for my mother tongue

[modern dragon]

Plenty of content too

[shadow night]

I don't like spanish

[modern dragon]

With Latin having milllions of scans out of copyright I am already never going to run out of material to read

Lifetime worth for free

[mortal hare]

Guys we forgot esperanto

[lilac dagger]

What does this mean?

[modern dragon]

hi

[lilac dagger]

Don't just exit 😭

[lilac dagger]

Hi

[lilac dagger]

But how much of it is still useful information nowadays?

[sullen marlin]

I mean they're books

You can read them

[modern dragon]

Well, depends on what you read. I am paying my school expenses by tutoring a miss from the archive, who is translating court readings

[sullen marlin]

Based Caesar with the Bello Gallico

[modern dragon]

Virtually everything pre 19th century from this country is in Latin

so

[lilac dagger]

Ah

I didn't know this

19th century is not that old

[modern dragon]

Even plenty of stuff is in 19th and 20th century

[lilac dagger]

Yeah nvm my comment

[modern dragon]

Just not as much

[lilac dagger]

Latin is awesome

[modern dragon]

Yeah, now you know why all science stuff is Latin vocabulary

[lilac dagger]

Ye

[modern dragon]

Is this my help?

[blazing ocean]

Yea

[modern dragon]

Ah, so I would replace every language file

I hope that would not be too long to load though. Each lang file is like 6k lines

But alright, I will try it.

[sullen marlin]

Shouldn't be, should all compress to the same

[modern dragon]

Grátiás tibi agó

[viscid carbon]

@echo basalt Were you talking about something like this?

public interface DailyTypes {

    DailyType dailyType = null;
    Block block = null;
    EntityType entity = null;
    ItemStack itemStack = null;

    void setDailyType();
    void setBlock();
    void setEntity();
    void setItemStack();

}```

[glad prawn]

fields in interface is public static final yk

[warm mesa]

Im creating a plugin and in one of the modules I have to modify the Tablist, the thing is that i need to order all the users by rank, but it doesn't work properly, can someone help me?

That's the code

[viscid carbon]

I did not know that.

[blazing ocean]

Yeah you gotta make getters and setters

[viscid carbon]

inside the interface?

never used interfaces properly.

okay, nvm my last question. looked into interfaces

[desert aspen]

Is it posible to detect when a player shoots an enderman?

[viscid carbon]

Have you tried entityDamageEvent?

https://hub.spigotmc.org/javadocs/spigot/org/bukkit/event/entity/EntityDamageByEntityEvent.html

EntityDamageByEntityEvent

something has to detect it right?

[prime reef]

Can anyone link resources for how custom animated VFX work? I know you need a resource pack, but is it just like...an item display that uses the animated texture you want?

[prime reef]

ProjectileHitEvent might be better for this, since endermen don't necessarily take damage from being hit with arrows

Not sure if it fires EntityDamageByEntityEvent when they're hit by a projectile

[blazing ocean]

It really depends on what you#re trying to achieve

[drowsy helm]

can you show an example of what exactly you are trying to do. theres different ways of doing it

[prime reef]

Yeah. Something like these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IalBwCsl4Uc

[blazing ocean]

What part exactly

[prime reef]

The actual VFX

[blazing ocean]

That mostly just looks like item displays

[drowsy helm]

yeah those are just item displays

[prime reef]

Item displays, gotcha. Thanks

Just needed that lead, cheers

[blazing ocean]

does look really cool though

[prime reef]

oh yeah, much nicer than using particle effects - I worked on an RPG server like 10 years ago before this was a thing, so we just used particle effects, and it made it hard to discern what abilities were being used in PvP lmao

You can do custom sounds from a resource pack by just using the playSound method with a string instead now, right? Last time I did serious spigot dev was several years back

[blazing ocean]

Yeah

[prime reef]

awesome

[blazing ocean]

You can add custom sounds with a resource pack and then you just put in the key

[prime reef]

it's nice that Mojang (and by extension Spigot) has added so much support for this stuff lmao

[blazing ocean]

They're working on making items datadriven now

[modern dragon]

yeah

[prime reef]

oh shit

[modern dragon]

resource packs can now basically work like full mods

[prime reef]

got a link to that? or a summary idk

[prime reef]

that's quite nice

I know you can do custom shaders now too? but it seems a bit difficult to wrangle in vanilla still

[blazing ocean]

https://github.com/misode/mcmeta/tree/assets/assets/minecraft/items

Yeah you can do pre-, post-, and core shaders

[prime reef]

oh damn. thanks lol

[blazing ocean]

Data-driven items are gonna be stored in those jsons

[prime reef]

Were minecraft items still hardcoded into the game??

holy shit

[blazing ocean]

once they're done™

Yeah

[prime reef]

good god. that was the case in like 2010 when I did Modloader mods

[blazing ocean]

They're still just hardcoded into some registries, but less hardcoded than before

[prime reef]

i was 11 lol

Yeah data-driven is like...how you make a game properly modular, gmod style

[kindred sentinel]

Is it ok to use system out println to debug? (Not for information to the server)

[blazing ocean]

Yes

[modern dragon]

yeah

[prime reef]

tbf Mojang does know that modders/plugin developers/Bedrock content pack creators are why the game is alive still, the CTO said as much at a talk I went to last year

[kindred sentinel]

So no one will blame me for bad code if I send code with debugging with system out println?

[modern dragon]

I never like proper debuggers anyway, just put prints all over my code for each step

[prime reef]

Use whatever works for you to debug, just don't package it into the .jar when you're done lol

I never figured out how to use a proper debugger for spigot anyway

[blazing ocean]

This is the kind of stuff that's possible nowadays

(This is a fucking datapack)

(like holy shit)

[modern dragon]

not minecraft anymore

[blazing ocean]

Yeah it doesn't feel like it

but it is

[mortal hare]

bruh

i thought this was portal

legit

it even captured that fog

[blazing ocean]

#507995770109165579 message

[modern dragon]

honestly though it is indeed just using minecraft as an engine and the modder codes a whole game on their own

[blazing ocean]

it's definitely vanilla

[mortal vortex]

The reflections are better than UE5 lmfao

[blazing ocean]

Yeah that's the shader fuckery

[mortal vortex]

For some reason in Fortnite, HUD elements appear in game as reflections.

[chrome beacon]

??

[mortal vortex]

Like only world components should have reflections, but i've seen times where in Fortnite and other unreal engine games, things that are only visible on your screen are reflected in water, like hit indicators or whatever.

Its crazy to see a datapack handling reflections better than a game engine

[chrome beacon]

That's not an engine problem

[mortal vortex]

Just the game?

[chrome beacon]

yes

[modern dragon]

that is a fail on the game dev side

[chrome beacon]

also I'd love to see an image of that

[modern dragon]

like real fail

😄

[chrome beacon]

because I find it real odd if epic messed up that bad in their own engine

[mortal vortex]

hang on hang on its in my dms with someone

[modern dragon]

Epic is totally good if the dev knows how to use it

it is actually the best available engine imo

[mortal hare]

that some sick shit that i've always dreamt on doing but that required the knowledge of proper shader language and exploitation of certain datapack features that will take ages to search

[chrome beacon]

Unreal default settings and such aren't the best performance wise

[prime reef]

Unreal is 100% the strongest but Unity's the easiest, especially for a solo dev

[modern dragon]

I am developing a game in Unity rn

[chrome beacon]

Unreal isn't that hard

You can just use Blueprints if you want

[mortal vortex]

FOUND

[mortal hare]

i dislike unreal

its just shit for performance

[echo basalt]

make it in source

who tf is unity

[blazing ocean]

what the fuck is a game engine

[mortal hare]

nanite and lumen arent a solution

[chrome beacon]

^^ it's a powerful engine but the performance is 💀

[quaint mantle]

City demo 💀

[modern dragon]

Epic store gives you cooler treatment if you use their engine, so if you actually intend to publish there, it is good to switch

iirc

[mortal vortex]

okay here

[mortal hare]

All games made in UE look.. How do i say. . fortnite'y

they all have their cartoony feeling

i cant describe

[modern dragon]

That is design of the games

Nothing to do with the studio

you can play with textures and shaders as you wish

[mortal hare]

i wish games focused more on 2012 gritty looks

[prime reef]

this is because the developers don't replace the default shaders

[mortal vortex]

@chrome beacon

That is highest settings possible in Fortnite, everything is maxxed out, and i'm using DLSS to 4K (not that AA is doing much here). But if you observe, it's reflecting an onscreen element, those little hit indicators, into the water.

[mortal hare]

you dont even need to replace shaders to do that

there's plenty of shading options in UE

[chrome beacon]

That's probably just intended

It's part of the trail

[mortal vortex]

Really? thats an onscreen element only visible to you, its basically the same as ur compass in the top. Theres no reason for it to be reflected.

Its an accessiblity setting for the hard of hearing, to visualize sound location.

[mortal hare]

i dont want this

i want this:

[mortal vortex]

The first is more realiiitc though

[mortal hare]

its more blurry

that's why its more realistic

[chrome beacon]

Yeah modern games love TAA which causes that blur

[mortal hare]

im probably the weird one who always disable anti aliasing

i just like the crispness

of having that off

im trashing UE games

meanwhile i cant import a single 2d texture via open gl

kekw

[prime reef]

atlasing issues?

[blazing ocean]

looks fun

this is why I don't wanna get into game dev

(outside of MC)

[prime reef]

i work in AAA game dev

don't get into it

i hate it

[blazing ocean]

lol

[prime reef]

not only is the work difficult (I work in rendering and graphics, so lots of high tech shit), it's stressful and you have to deal with the fact that the people in charge are just trying to milk a cash cow

I get paid pretty well but like

bruh I'd rather be an indie dev

[blazing ocean]

yeah I expected that

[mortal hare]

for some odd reason texture gets red tint

i do not blend colors

might be something up with texture blending

[prime reef]

would probably help if i could see your code and what format the image is in

[left jay]

how can you set the attack damage of custom items in its meta data?

[rough drift]

I am IRL TAA

[smoky anchor]

Change the attribute
note: if you're changing attribute of an item with default attributes, you will override them

[rough drift]

I can't see for shit because everything is blurry but smooth

[mortal hare]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-22378372

fixed it

turns out my sketchy .png texture loading loaded byte data in ABGR instead of RGBA byte order

        // TODO: Refactor this sketchy texture loading
        OpenGLTextureImageData textureImageData;
        try {
            BufferedImage image = ImageIO.read(this.getClass().getResourceAsStream("/assets/spritemap.png"));
            byte[] data = ((DataBufferByte)image.getData().getDataBuffer()).getData();
            for (int i = 0; i < data.length; i += 4) {
                // ABGR -> RGBA
                byte temp = data[i];
                data[i] = data[i + 3];
                data[i + 3] = temp;

                temp = data[i + 1];
                data[i + 1] = data[i + 2];
                data[i + 2] = temp;
            }
            textureImageData = new OpenGLTextureImageData(image.getWidth(), image.getHeight(), data);
        } catch (Exception exception) {
            throw new IllegalStateException("Unable to load image.", exception);
        }

such a sketchy code

[tall dragon]

well you could always opt to use stbi

thats how i usually do it

[unborn hollow]

how do you send a player an action bar? whenever i try this it just sends "ACTION_BARDon't move" to chat:

    public void onPlayerMove(PlayerMoveEvent e){

        e.setCancelled(true);
        e.getPlayer().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR + "Can't move");```

[sullen marlin]

get player().spigot().send message, comma rather than plus

[unique skiff]

Could someone help me with a problem with the mines plugin?

[unborn hollow]

like this?
event.getPlayer().spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, "Can't move");

[karmic phoenix]

Hey everyone, how do I detect if the damager is an NPC:
net.citizensnpcs.api.npc.NPC doesn't seem to be working.

    @EventHandler
    public void onEntityDamageByEntity(EntityDamageByEntityEvent event) {

        if (event.getEntity() instanceof Player && event.getDamager() instanceof NPC) {
            Player player = (Player) event.getEntity();
            if (!BoxingMatchManager.isInMatch(player)) {
                return;
            }
            NPC npc = BoxingMatchManager.getMatch(player).getNpc();
            if (event.getDamager().equals(npc.getEntity())) {
                BoxingMatchManager.incrementNpcHits(player);
            }
        } else if (event.getDamager() instanceof Player && event.getEntity() instanceof NPC) {
            Player player = (Player) event.getDamager();
            if (!BoxingMatchManager.isInMatch(player)) {
                return;
            }
            NPC npc = BoxingMatchManager.getMatch(player).getNpc();
            if (event.getEntity().equals(npc.getEntity())) {
                BoxingMatchManager.incrementPlayerHits(player);
            }
        }
    }

[zinc iris]

For getting a ban entry is wants to be provided a target, how do you obtain the target class via a player class?

I assumed it might have been player profile or smth but wasn’t

[chrome beacon]

It should be a player profile

[chrome beacon]

https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/API#Checking_if_an_entity_is_a_Citizens_NPC

[sullen marlin]

Seems about right

[young knoll]

It takes a component iirc

[unborn hollow]

it does

i solved it

[young knoll]

So you need new TextComponent(“Hello”)

[unborn hollow]

        event.setCancelled(true);
        event.getPlayer().sendMessage(ChatColor.of("#E6E6FA") + "Can't move!");
        event.getPlayer().spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, new TextComponent(ChatColor.of("#E6E6FA") + "Can't move!"));```

for some reason when i run this, the chat color displays differently (lavender) than the action bar (light green) despite using the same hexcode, does anyone know why that happens/a fix?

i'm aiming for both to look lavender (what is currently only the chat color)

[sullen marlin]

Use ComponentBuilder not TextComponent

[unborn hollow]

event.getPlayer().spigot().sendMessage(ChatMessageType.ACTION_BAR, new ComponentBuilder("Can't move!").color(ChatColor.of("#E6E6FA")));
like this? it gives me a "no suitable method found" error

[sullen marlin]

Missing a .build() or something on the end

https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/the-chat-component-api/

[unborn hollow]

okay i saw this article but seriously lacked reading comprehension, it was missing .create() at the end. thank you so much, it worked!

[tiny tangle]

hi

this setDisplayName() and player.setResourcePack(url); the setResourcePack its deprecated

uhm what was the new one functions for those :C

[drowsy helm]

Am i tripping or is

    private boolean overlaps(double minX, double minY, double minZ, double maxX, double maxY, double maxZ) {
        return this.minX < maxX && this.maxX > minX && this.minY < maxY && this.maxY > minY && this.minZ < maxZ && this.maxZ > minZ;
    }
``` checking for contains rather than overlapping

I have two bounding boxes and this method only returns true if one is COMPLETELY in the other

[pseudo hazel]

i think you need a few or cases too I think

[drowsy helm]

yeah thats what i wa sthinking

thats from spigot source

[pseudo hazel]

one box could be either side of the other one

but still overlapping

but in each case a diferent set of rules is true

its usually easier to visualize for me if it was just one dimension

because it scales to any dimension

for one dimension to just overlap, you need the this.max to be higher then the other.min, or have the this.min be lower then the other.max

and if both cases are true, then yeah, one fully contains the other

[drowsy helm]

return this.minX < maxX && this.maxX > minX && this.minY < maxY && this.maxY > minY

-2 < 2 && 0 > 0 && -2 < 2 && 0 > 0
true && false && true && false

yeah the logic is flawed

it would make sense if it were a contains method, but there is another contains method which does this already

[pseudo hazel]

so whats that body like

[echo basalt]

I have methods for that

[drowsy helm]

I just want to figure out if two bounding boxes intersect

[echo basalt]

.

[drowsy helm]

ill sus ty

[timber crescent]

does

player.getInventory().clear();``` clear armor too?

[drowsy helm]

yes

[echo basalt]

for legal purposes that class is like 4 years old so if there's any ugly about it, I'm not responsible

[pseudo hazel]

thats a lot of code to check if some cube is inside another xD

[echo basalt]

all you care about is the contains method

and any methods it depends on

[drowsy helm]

i think the iterator is a lil off lmao

[buoyant viper]

trying to use textdisplays for the first time and failing

anyone know what could be going wrong when this is all im doing?

TextDisplay display = player.getWorld().spawn(player.getLocation(), TextDisplay.class, entity -> {
            entity.setText("Test");
            entity.setBillboard(Display.Billboard.CENTER);
            entity.setBackgroundColor(Color.BLACK);
        });```

ik that would summon at the feet, dont worry about that

[blazing ocean]

What's not working

[buoyant viper]

it just doesnt show up at all

oh my plugin isnt loaded at all either

that would help

[blazing ocean]

lol

[buoyant viper]

i forgot to shade my own api

💀

[blazing ocean]

nice one

[buoyant viper]

yeah it works now

poggers

[buoyant viper]

woo

[blazing ocean]

"asmr hell / Our shithole"

[buoyant viper]

LOL

[blazing ocean]

shitpile*

[hushed spindle]

im entirely new to making public maven repositories available so that working with my projects is easier. i deployed my project as a github package and it should be available now, but whenever i try to access it from another project it complains that it couldn't resolve it because it's absent. how would i go about dealing with this
https://github.com/Athlaeos/LoreAPI/packages/2354212?version=1.0

with as repository

<repository>
    <id>github</id>
    <url>https://maven.pkg.github.com/Athlaeos/LoreAPI</url>
</repository>

Caused by: The following artifacts could not be resolved: me.athlaeos:lapi-parent:pom:${revision} (absent): Could not transfer artifact me.athlaeos:lapi-parent:pom:${revision} from/to enginehub (https://maven.enginehub.org/repo/): status code: 400, reason phrase:  (400)

seems that it's trying to get it from enginehub, but i dont want it to grab from enginehub

[blazing ocean]

Change the order of repositories

[hushed spindle]

that matters?

damn

i guess the higher the up the higher the prio?

[blazing ocean]

Yea, first declared, first attempted to resolve

[hushed spindle]

unfortunately did not make a difference

[blazing ocean]

show your pom

[hushed spindle]

?paste

[undone axle]

https://paste.md-5.net/

[hushed spindle]

https://paste.md-5.net/yamowoyuco.xml

[blazing ocean]

uh why not remove the EH repo

[hushed spindle]

removing doesnt make a difference regardless

was left from an old dependency

settings.xml was improperly configured, so at least its no longer grabbing from the wrong repository, instead it just doesn't find the package

Could not find artifact me.athlaeos:lapi-parent:jar:1.0 in github (https://maven.pkg.github.com/athlaeos/loreapi)

[pastel axle]

I feel like I've hit a wall. If I use the mapTxt builder on its own, the format correctly gets cleared. But when I append it to another builder body, the format continues. I feel like I'm making a really simple mistake somewhere.

ComponentBuilder mapTxt = new ComponentBuilder("");
if (showMapLink) {
    mapTxt.append("\n                       ");
    TextComponent mapLink = new TextComponent("Show on Map");
    mapLink.setColor(ChatColor.BLUE);
    mapLink.setUnderlined(true);
    mapTxt.append(mapLink, FormatRetention.NONE);
    mapTxt.append(new TextComponent("This is still underlined"), FormatRetention.NONE);
}

BaseComponent[] body = new ComponentBuilder("")
    .append(mapTxt.create(), FormatRetention.NONE)
    .append("I am also underlined", FormatRetention.NONE)
    .create();

[crude charm]

idk what section this should go in but for a dev server what are some must have plugins? obv spark and plugman but what others?

[blazing ocean]

never use plugman

never reload

[crude charm]

alr

is there a go-to for backwards compatibility? idk if via version is still used I've been out the scene for a very long time. Is protical support still a thing

[quaint mantle]

via is pretty much the only thing there is in that regard

[crude charm]

alright thx

[crude charm]

also for a very long time I've stuck to only 1.8 spigot but its time for me to move on. Where can I find a list of all the new spigot features since 1.8 spigot. Or the useful ones atleast

I mean tyhere are probaly so many but yk yk

[summer scroll]

You can try to create plugins on newer version, you can learn from there i guess.

[crude charm]

I mean if there is just something useful

or cool

to experiment with